1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:15,265 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:15,305 --> 00:00:18,345 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,465 --> 00:00:23,465 Speaker 1: is recorded on Makeup is my therapy in love. I'm 4 00:00:23,505 --> 00:00:26,105 Speaker 1: obsessed and I don't even feel guilty about it. 5 00:00:30,065 --> 00:00:33,345 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you beauty. I'm Kelly McCarran, and 6 00:00:33,385 --> 00:00:37,865 Speaker 2: this is the formula today. I've got someone really special. 7 00:00:37,905 --> 00:00:40,505 Speaker 2: And I know I say that every week, but for 8 00:00:40,625 --> 00:00:43,905 Speaker 2: our og ubi's you are going to squeal with delight 9 00:00:44,345 --> 00:00:47,345 Speaker 2: because our lifestyle editor Amy Clark. 10 00:00:47,785 --> 00:00:48,865 Speaker 3: Is back in the building. 11 00:00:50,185 --> 00:00:52,825 Speaker 2: So long time listeners will remember Amy from the early 12 00:00:52,905 --> 00:00:55,505 Speaker 2: You Beauty days and we're so excited to have her 13 00:00:55,545 --> 00:00:58,185 Speaker 2: back to catch up and see what's changed in her 14 00:00:58,185 --> 00:01:00,425 Speaker 2: beauty world because it's been a little bit of time. 15 00:01:01,065 --> 00:01:04,025 Speaker 2: She's now writing about beauty trends all day and honestly, 16 00:01:04,105 --> 00:01:07,585 Speaker 2: her skin looks even more incredible than it did. 17 00:01:07,585 --> 00:01:09,785 Speaker 3: Five or six years or however that was in COVID time. 18 00:01:09,865 --> 00:01:12,785 Speaker 3: We're all looking a little bit grim, weren't we? Welcome 19 00:01:12,825 --> 00:01:13,545 Speaker 3: back Amy? 20 00:01:13,745 --> 00:01:15,665 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, So. 21 00:01:15,745 --> 00:01:20,745 Speaker 2: I thought before we get started, our producers prepared a 22 00:01:20,785 --> 00:01:23,785 Speaker 2: little flashback, oh six. 23 00:01:23,625 --> 00:01:27,945 Speaker 3: Years ago, don't don't down, doo. 24 00:01:27,825 --> 00:01:30,785 Speaker 1: Doo doo doo doo doo. Hello and welcome to you, beauty. 25 00:01:30,825 --> 00:01:32,985 Speaker 3: This is Mom and Me's podcast for Your Face. I'm 26 00:01:33,065 --> 00:01:34,225 Speaker 3: Kelly McCarran. 27 00:01:34,065 --> 00:01:36,505 Speaker 1: And I'm Amy Clark. I'm Mom and Me as resident 28 00:01:36,585 --> 00:01:39,825 Speaker 1: beauty writer, and I'm feeling in while our fearless leader 29 00:01:40,065 --> 00:01:43,345 Speaker 1: Lee Campbell is on maternity leave. It actually makes me 30 00:01:43,425 --> 00:01:46,545 Speaker 1: want to don't You shouted a little flat? Maybe you 31 00:01:46,545 --> 00:01:47,705 Speaker 1: were tired, but I. 32 00:01:47,545 --> 00:01:49,265 Speaker 3: Was thinking exactly the same thing. 33 00:01:49,465 --> 00:01:52,425 Speaker 2: I was so tired that day, clearly, like that was 34 00:01:52,465 --> 00:01:53,585 Speaker 2: the best you could find. 35 00:01:53,785 --> 00:01:55,865 Speaker 3: Really, Kelly, half asleep? 36 00:01:57,265 --> 00:02:00,265 Speaker 1: Oh what a trip down memory? You just called that 37 00:02:00,305 --> 00:02:00,665 Speaker 1: out too. 38 00:02:01,065 --> 00:02:04,345 Speaker 3: Sounds like I do not sound thrilled at all. 39 00:02:05,905 --> 00:02:08,265 Speaker 1: You're such beautiful skill. 40 00:02:08,025 --> 00:02:09,385 Speaker 3: But how. 41 00:02:11,545 --> 00:02:14,065 Speaker 2: So let's get straight into it then, Amy, for anyone 42 00:02:14,145 --> 00:02:16,945 Speaker 2: you here, tell us a little bit about yourself, and 43 00:02:17,065 --> 00:02:19,705 Speaker 2: to anyone old really, because maybe they don't know what 44 00:02:19,825 --> 00:02:20,585 Speaker 2: you've been doing. 45 00:02:20,905 --> 00:02:23,465 Speaker 1: I know, right, I mean they haven't been keeping tabs 46 00:02:23,505 --> 00:02:27,305 Speaker 1: on me, I mean rude. Yeah. Hi, if we haven't met, 47 00:02:27,465 --> 00:02:30,585 Speaker 1: my name is Amy Clark. I am Mama MIA's lifestyle editor. 48 00:02:31,145 --> 00:02:33,945 Speaker 1: I have always been obsessed with beauty. I've been in 49 00:02:33,985 --> 00:02:37,545 Speaker 1: the beauty world for almost the last ten years doing 50 00:02:37,625 --> 00:02:40,265 Speaker 1: all sorts of bits and pieces, but yeah, I'm back 51 00:02:40,305 --> 00:02:43,745 Speaker 1: at Mamma Mia. This was my first ever real grown 52 00:02:43,785 --> 00:02:46,545 Speaker 1: up job was at Mamma Mia in twenty sixteen. So 53 00:02:46,665 --> 00:02:48,665 Speaker 1: I am just so tough to be back with you. 54 00:02:49,145 --> 00:02:53,665 Speaker 2: Lee Campbell always said that Amy was like her little 55 00:02:53,665 --> 00:02:55,665 Speaker 2: protege back in the day because. 56 00:02:55,585 --> 00:02:59,505 Speaker 3: You were really young entering the world. As you said, 57 00:02:59,545 --> 00:03:00,905 Speaker 3: it was your first grown up job. 58 00:03:01,425 --> 00:03:04,825 Speaker 2: And Lee was like, she's just so smart, so talented, 59 00:03:04,905 --> 00:03:07,025 Speaker 2: She's gonna go so many places. What was your role 60 00:03:07,065 --> 00:03:09,425 Speaker 2: at Mamma Mia five or six years ago? Whenever you left? 61 00:03:09,825 --> 00:03:12,745 Speaker 1: So my last role here was send your lifestyle producer. 62 00:03:13,185 --> 00:03:17,225 Speaker 1: And og Ubi's would remember me because when Lee went 63 00:03:17,265 --> 00:03:20,785 Speaker 1: on maternity leave, I stepped in to her very big 64 00:03:21,105 --> 00:03:25,025 Speaker 1: shoes to feel the co hosting opportunity. So I was 65 00:03:25,105 --> 00:03:27,505 Speaker 1: interviewing our you know back in the day we used 66 00:03:27,545 --> 00:03:30,185 Speaker 1: to do in their bag or in her bag, So 67 00:03:30,225 --> 00:03:33,345 Speaker 1: I used to host that and then I'd sit alongside you, 68 00:03:33,505 --> 00:03:35,985 Speaker 1: my friend, and with you know, dish out beauty advice 69 00:03:36,065 --> 00:03:37,385 Speaker 1: now spendy savies. 70 00:03:37,665 --> 00:03:41,985 Speaker 2: And it's so funny because our producers who started earlier 71 00:03:42,025 --> 00:03:44,825 Speaker 2: in the year, they were like, oh my goodness, you're 72 00:03:44,865 --> 00:03:45,745 Speaker 2: gonna love Amy. 73 00:03:45,785 --> 00:03:47,665 Speaker 3: You'll meet her soon when she comes to Sydney. 74 00:03:47,905 --> 00:03:53,065 Speaker 2: And I was like, lol, like she's my daughter. 75 00:03:53,265 --> 00:03:55,625 Speaker 1: Very I mean, were very well. I don't know about 76 00:03:55,665 --> 00:03:57,185 Speaker 1: that because you're not that. 77 00:03:57,345 --> 00:04:00,745 Speaker 2: We also got very close during a very strange time 78 00:04:00,905 --> 00:04:04,025 Speaker 2: in the world sometimes, like Amy and I were the 79 00:04:04,025 --> 00:04:06,505 Speaker 2: only people that would see each other some days during 80 00:04:06,545 --> 00:04:08,785 Speaker 2: the week that wasn't our partners because it was during 81 00:04:08,825 --> 00:04:10,145 Speaker 2: COVID times year recording. 82 00:04:10,145 --> 00:04:12,345 Speaker 3: It was a very strange time to be alive. So 83 00:04:12,385 --> 00:04:13,865 Speaker 3: we know each other very. 84 00:04:13,745 --> 00:04:16,065 Speaker 1: Well, yes, And I was like, obviously, I've come to 85 00:04:16,105 --> 00:04:20,105 Speaker 1: know Kelly very well, but I was very star struck 86 00:04:20,345 --> 00:04:22,545 Speaker 1: when I first had to kind of get me that 87 00:04:22,865 --> 00:04:25,705 Speaker 1: get the ring up to go next to, like Kelly mccaren. 88 00:04:25,905 --> 00:04:29,185 Speaker 1: You have never told me that. It's a little bit embarrassing, 89 00:04:29,665 --> 00:04:32,065 Speaker 1: but you know, it was like all of this stuff 90 00:04:32,185 --> 00:04:35,105 Speaker 1: was like completely new to me. You've always been a writer, 91 00:04:35,705 --> 00:04:40,105 Speaker 1: so I love to talk obviously, but getting kind of 92 00:04:40,305 --> 00:04:41,985 Speaker 1: you know, all of this kind of podcast world was 93 00:04:42,025 --> 00:04:44,785 Speaker 1: really new to me. And you just were that person 94 00:04:44,825 --> 00:04:47,705 Speaker 1: that you were just like such a pro and it 95 00:04:47,745 --> 00:04:50,225 Speaker 1: was very nerve wracking. But that is how lucky it was. 96 00:04:50,225 --> 00:04:53,305 Speaker 3: I through it that that's how you felt. 97 00:04:53,865 --> 00:04:56,305 Speaker 2: And because I sort of felt like I knew and 98 00:04:56,385 --> 00:04:59,785 Speaker 2: I really liked you. My love language is roasting, so 99 00:05:00,185 --> 00:05:02,225 Speaker 2: you probably would just like roasted from the get go, 100 00:05:02,345 --> 00:05:05,785 Speaker 2: and you're like, Okay, she's a bit of an interesting character. 101 00:05:06,585 --> 00:05:09,305 Speaker 2: What have you been doing since you scrammed it's the 102 00:05:09,345 --> 00:05:09,905 Speaker 2: last time. 103 00:05:10,105 --> 00:05:12,425 Speaker 1: Yeah, well i've been in. 104 00:05:12,545 --> 00:05:13,505 Speaker 3: You moved to Melbourne? 105 00:05:13,545 --> 00:05:16,145 Speaker 1: I did so. Yeah, I'm working for Mommy. I'm based 106 00:05:16,145 --> 00:05:18,545 Speaker 1: in Melbourne, so it is very exciting to get to 107 00:05:18,585 --> 00:05:21,905 Speaker 1: fly up to the new office here in Sydney Arish schmick, 108 00:05:22,025 --> 00:05:25,265 Speaker 1: isn't it is? It is? I feel like very fancy pants. 109 00:05:25,585 --> 00:05:27,505 Speaker 1: But what I've been doing, I guess the last five 110 00:05:27,585 --> 00:05:30,065 Speaker 1: years since I was last on New Beauty, I've been 111 00:05:30,145 --> 00:05:32,425 Speaker 1: in the beauty world, but just from some different. 112 00:05:32,145 --> 00:05:38,025 Speaker 2: Side, which is bringing so much knowledge and expertise in different. 113 00:05:37,665 --> 00:05:40,065 Speaker 3: Parts of the beauty world, which I think is so interesting. 114 00:05:40,265 --> 00:05:42,465 Speaker 1: I'll try, I'll do my best, but yeah, from a 115 00:05:42,505 --> 00:05:46,385 Speaker 1: background of kind of reporting and writing and trialing products 116 00:05:46,665 --> 00:05:49,265 Speaker 1: for mom and mea. I then went to a dooor Beauty, 117 00:05:49,305 --> 00:05:51,785 Speaker 1: which is you know, probably a retailer that comes up 118 00:05:51,825 --> 00:05:54,905 Speaker 1: on New Beauty all the time, because you know, one 119 00:05:54,945 --> 00:05:59,305 Speaker 1: of Australia's biggest beauty retailers. I was running content there, 120 00:05:59,545 --> 00:06:02,385 Speaker 1: you know, very much the same kind of thing, writing articles, 121 00:06:02,705 --> 00:06:07,825 Speaker 1: trialing products, but also commissioning writers. So that kind of 122 00:06:07,865 --> 00:06:11,025 Speaker 1: exposed me to like a side of beauty that I 123 00:06:11,065 --> 00:06:14,065 Speaker 1: hadn't seen before, which is like on the retailer side. 124 00:06:14,465 --> 00:06:17,825 Speaker 1: So working with you know, all kind of three hundred 125 00:06:18,145 --> 00:06:22,265 Speaker 1: plus brands that are stopped there kind of navigating also 126 00:06:22,625 --> 00:06:24,385 Speaker 1: some of the politics of beauty. 127 00:06:24,465 --> 00:06:27,185 Speaker 2: Well yeah, because were you allowed to ever write about 128 00:06:27,385 --> 00:06:29,145 Speaker 2: products that weren't listed on site? 129 00:06:29,265 --> 00:06:32,505 Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, fair enough enough, because that was kind 130 00:06:32,545 --> 00:06:35,625 Speaker 1: of like it was very similar content that I was creating, 131 00:06:35,945 --> 00:06:39,665 Speaker 1: but by nature it was all branded content because it's 132 00:06:40,025 --> 00:06:43,665 Speaker 1: for the brands that we stopped that we stopped. So 133 00:06:43,745 --> 00:06:45,705 Speaker 1: I did that for about two and a half years, 134 00:06:45,785 --> 00:06:49,785 Speaker 1: and then I took another little kind of career roundabout 135 00:06:50,065 --> 00:06:52,825 Speaker 1: and went to work in house at one beauty brand. 136 00:06:52,865 --> 00:06:55,825 Speaker 1: So most recently I was senior brand and content manager 137 00:06:55,825 --> 00:06:58,745 Speaker 1: at Alpha h which is if you're familiar with the 138 00:06:59,145 --> 00:07:03,345 Speaker 1: iconic liquid gold excoliating treatment. Yeah, it's a like thirty 139 00:07:03,425 --> 00:07:07,865 Speaker 1: year old Australian beauty brand, very known and loved amongst 140 00:07:07,905 --> 00:07:10,825 Speaker 1: the ubi's Oh yeah, so good and I have so 141 00:07:10,985 --> 00:07:14,225 Speaker 1: much love for our h but it is really fun 142 00:07:14,265 --> 00:07:16,465 Speaker 1: to now kind of when you work for one brand, 143 00:07:16,905 --> 00:07:19,785 Speaker 1: that brand is your world and like you know, you 144 00:07:19,865 --> 00:07:22,705 Speaker 1: have those blinders on. It's just full obsession with the 145 00:07:22,745 --> 00:07:25,905 Speaker 1: one brand. But I did everything there from kind of 146 00:07:26,305 --> 00:07:31,185 Speaker 1: overseeing new product launchers like campaigns, working a little bit 147 00:07:31,185 --> 00:07:34,345 Speaker 1: on innovation towards the end, you know, getting to help 148 00:07:34,385 --> 00:07:36,425 Speaker 1: come up with the product names and like how we're 149 00:07:36,465 --> 00:07:39,825 Speaker 1: going to position this product to the market as well 150 00:07:39,865 --> 00:07:41,905 Speaker 1: as you know, then all the other things that come 151 00:07:41,945 --> 00:07:45,185 Speaker 1: along with being a beauty brand. So iran influence yea 152 00:07:45,905 --> 00:07:46,665 Speaker 1: one exactly. 153 00:07:46,785 --> 00:07:49,145 Speaker 2: She was like there to speak about the product, ye 154 00:07:49,185 --> 00:07:50,185 Speaker 2: as the face. 155 00:07:49,945 --> 00:07:52,265 Speaker 3: Of the product, and I was like, hey, what are 156 00:07:52,265 --> 00:07:52,865 Speaker 3: you doing here? 157 00:07:53,385 --> 00:07:57,345 Speaker 1: So stuff like that. Also, you know, organizing menia events, 158 00:07:57,345 --> 00:07:59,745 Speaker 1: so you know, me sliding into Kelly CMS being like 159 00:07:59,785 --> 00:08:03,185 Speaker 1: please come to my launch event and yeah, really fun. 160 00:08:03,265 --> 00:08:05,985 Speaker 1: So now I'm kind of come all the way back around. 161 00:08:06,185 --> 00:08:08,105 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's been a really fun ride. And I 162 00:08:08,105 --> 00:08:10,145 Speaker 1: still love beauty as much as I did when I 163 00:08:10,185 --> 00:08:11,945 Speaker 1: was last on this podcast. 164 00:08:12,185 --> 00:08:13,065 Speaker 3: Oh I love that. 165 00:08:13,625 --> 00:08:16,465 Speaker 2: And can you share one pervy thing that you think 166 00:08:16,505 --> 00:08:19,665 Speaker 2: people would be surprised and want to know like something 167 00:08:19,705 --> 00:08:23,625 Speaker 2: real juicy about beauty brands or working behind the scenes 168 00:08:23,625 --> 00:08:24,145 Speaker 2: in general. 169 00:08:24,665 --> 00:08:27,505 Speaker 1: Probably that it's more common than you would think that 170 00:08:27,625 --> 00:08:31,545 Speaker 1: brands launch products with a formula that they haven't actually 171 00:08:31,585 --> 00:08:34,305 Speaker 1: created from end to end. So you hear a lot 172 00:08:34,345 --> 00:08:37,545 Speaker 1: about how brands kind of they might have purchased a 173 00:08:37,585 --> 00:08:41,025 Speaker 1: base formula from a manufacturer. I didn't realize when I 174 00:08:41,545 --> 00:08:44,185 Speaker 1: first started working for a brand that like not every 175 00:08:44,265 --> 00:08:48,025 Speaker 1: product is made like one hundred percent in house by 176 00:08:48,145 --> 00:08:51,625 Speaker 1: the brand, which is just interesting in itself. It's just 177 00:08:51,665 --> 00:08:52,545 Speaker 1: a little that is. 178 00:08:52,825 --> 00:08:56,945 Speaker 2: So juicy and very topical at the moment because a 179 00:08:56,945 --> 00:09:00,465 Speaker 2: lot of people have recently found out as an example 180 00:09:00,545 --> 00:09:03,585 Speaker 2: with sunscreen Gate, well actually it was the same formula 181 00:09:03,865 --> 00:09:06,345 Speaker 2: with a lot of different brands selling it under a 182 00:09:06,385 --> 00:09:08,025 Speaker 2: different name exactly. 183 00:09:08,225 --> 00:09:11,305 Speaker 1: So it reads a little bit of BTS. Actually, that's 184 00:09:11,345 --> 00:09:11,905 Speaker 1: a good one. 185 00:09:12,105 --> 00:09:15,905 Speaker 2: Yes, looking back through everything that you did for in 186 00:09:15,985 --> 00:09:18,545 Speaker 2: Her Bag and everyone that you interviewed, what was your 187 00:09:18,625 --> 00:09:20,105 Speaker 2: most memorable interview? 188 00:09:20,265 --> 00:09:21,865 Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness, in me? 189 00:09:22,025 --> 00:09:22,345 Speaker 3: Was it me? 190 00:09:22,665 --> 00:09:25,105 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I did. I mean, you are just 191 00:09:25,185 --> 00:09:26,785 Speaker 1: always memorable, Kelly McCarran. 192 00:09:26,945 --> 00:09:28,865 Speaker 3: But one of them, I tell you, I need to 193 00:09:28,865 --> 00:09:30,945 Speaker 3: poo y, take my shoes or. 194 00:09:30,945 --> 00:09:33,905 Speaker 1: Do a urp into the microphone or something like that. Hey, 195 00:09:33,945 --> 00:09:37,065 Speaker 1: we've all been there, but I've had a couple. One 196 00:09:37,105 --> 00:09:39,865 Speaker 1: that I would say is, and you know, if anyone 197 00:09:40,305 --> 00:09:42,625 Speaker 1: look at me talking as if I'm some like big shop, 198 00:09:42,665 --> 00:09:46,185 Speaker 1: but if people if ubs want to sleuth and like figure. 199 00:09:45,905 --> 00:09:47,905 Speaker 3: Out who this was, Oh my god. 200 00:09:47,985 --> 00:09:51,305 Speaker 1: I had one guest who came in and when they 201 00:09:51,345 --> 00:09:53,745 Speaker 1: came into the office, you know, the producer, and I 202 00:09:53,745 --> 00:09:56,745 Speaker 1: would greet them, Hey, so nice to meet you. I'm 203 00:09:56,745 --> 00:09:59,585 Speaker 1: really looking forward to interview you. And she was just 204 00:09:59,705 --> 00:10:03,385 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, blank Stonewall, just you know, 205 00:10:03,745 --> 00:10:04,185 Speaker 1: oh hello. 206 00:10:04,785 --> 00:10:06,585 Speaker 2: Also what you think of when you think of a 207 00:10:06,665 --> 00:10:08,585 Speaker 2: rude celeb type thing, well. 208 00:10:08,585 --> 00:10:11,265 Speaker 1: Just very kind of like dead pan. I'm thinking, oh 209 00:10:11,305 --> 00:10:13,425 Speaker 1: my god, this interview is going to be, like how 210 00:10:13,465 --> 00:10:15,665 Speaker 1: am I going to pull this out of them? We 211 00:10:15,785 --> 00:10:18,305 Speaker 1: go into the studio, the lights go on, the microphones 212 00:10:18,305 --> 00:10:21,745 Speaker 1: start recording, and they came to life. They became that 213 00:10:21,865 --> 00:10:24,265 Speaker 1: person that they are on TV, and it was like 214 00:10:24,745 --> 00:10:27,385 Speaker 1: a flick of a switch. And then same at the 215 00:10:27,505 --> 00:10:30,545 Speaker 1: end the last thanks so much for coming on the show. 216 00:10:30,825 --> 00:10:34,505 Speaker 1: Thank you, bam. Straight back to the other one, So 217 00:10:34,585 --> 00:10:36,545 Speaker 1: that was just like one of those things where you 218 00:10:36,625 --> 00:10:40,025 Speaker 1: see somebody on TV or that and you wonder, I 219 00:10:40,105 --> 00:10:43,465 Speaker 1: wonder what they're laughing in real life? Awful, your word's 220 00:10:43,505 --> 00:10:44,145 Speaker 1: not mine. 221 00:10:44,345 --> 00:10:48,025 Speaker 2: But the other one, Wow, I'm so desperate to know 222 00:10:48,025 --> 00:10:48,825 Speaker 2: who this was. 223 00:10:48,945 --> 00:10:51,105 Speaker 3: Now I'm going to ask you later recording. 224 00:10:51,305 --> 00:10:53,345 Speaker 1: So the other one that it comes to mind is 225 00:10:53,385 --> 00:10:56,985 Speaker 1: Trinny Woodle. So everybody knows Trinny Woddle, if not from 226 00:10:57,185 --> 00:11:00,985 Speaker 1: her kind of naughties UK makeover show What Not to Wear, 227 00:11:01,465 --> 00:11:03,945 Speaker 1: then you might know her from her Triny Beauty products. 228 00:11:04,265 --> 00:11:06,665 Speaker 1: But on her first trip to Australia, she came into 229 00:11:06,705 --> 00:11:10,145 Speaker 1: Themma Mere office and Maya Friedman and Trine just got 230 00:11:10,185 --> 00:11:13,025 Speaker 1: on like a house on fire because you know, sparkly clothes, 231 00:11:13,665 --> 00:11:17,825 Speaker 1: the fashion and just like the personality. They were like 232 00:11:17,865 --> 00:11:19,665 Speaker 1: a match made in heaven. But she came into the 233 00:11:19,705 --> 00:11:22,945 Speaker 1: office and I interviewed her for in her bag, and 234 00:11:23,025 --> 00:11:25,225 Speaker 1: I just remember I was so nervous, and she came 235 00:11:25,265 --> 00:11:28,145 Speaker 1: in and she kind of sat down. 236 00:11:29,025 --> 00:11:30,985 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, she's so really good. 237 00:11:31,105 --> 00:11:34,585 Speaker 1: She also well she actually the first thing she did 238 00:11:34,705 --> 00:11:37,745 Speaker 1: was she just you know, put a packet of SIGs 239 00:11:37,785 --> 00:11:40,625 Speaker 1: on the table and went Okay, darling, let's do this. 240 00:11:41,585 --> 00:11:43,985 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't know why. That just made 241 00:11:43,985 --> 00:11:45,865 Speaker 3: me love her even more. She didn't even try to 242 00:11:45,945 --> 00:11:46,345 Speaker 3: hide it. 243 00:11:46,505 --> 00:11:50,305 Speaker 1: So British. Yeah, that is so so British. So that 244 00:11:50,545 --> 00:11:54,065 Speaker 1: naughty's that error. But she also told me she just 245 00:11:54,105 --> 00:11:55,985 Speaker 1: looked at me and said, you're wearing the wrong bra. 246 00:11:56,745 --> 00:11:59,105 Speaker 1: She literally could tell by looking at me that I 247 00:11:59,185 --> 00:12:03,345 Speaker 1: was wearing the wrong brass eyes and were you. Oh yeah, 248 00:12:03,505 --> 00:12:05,585 Speaker 1: I reckon, I was. I mean, aren't we all Sometimes 249 00:12:05,625 --> 00:12:10,185 Speaker 1: I'm not wearing a brass so it must be nice. Wow. 250 00:12:10,305 --> 00:12:13,665 Speaker 2: Okay, those are two absolutely incredible tidbits. 251 00:12:19,185 --> 00:12:22,265 Speaker 3: All right, how has your routine personally changed? 252 00:12:22,425 --> 00:12:26,465 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, A lot, a lot, and like you've 253 00:12:26,505 --> 00:12:30,625 Speaker 1: aged as we all. Well, thanks no, I am like 254 00:12:30,945 --> 00:12:34,625 Speaker 1: sparklier than ever. Oh thanks Dole. But I think actually 255 00:12:34,665 --> 00:12:36,745 Speaker 1: the reason why my routine has changed so much is 256 00:12:36,785 --> 00:12:40,065 Speaker 1: not probably for the reason you would think. So. You know, 257 00:12:40,145 --> 00:12:42,785 Speaker 1: when you work in beauty, as you know you're trialing 258 00:12:42,825 --> 00:12:47,745 Speaker 1: lots of products, you're also just so in the sphere 259 00:12:47,865 --> 00:12:50,185 Speaker 1: of like all the new launchers, what's coming that there's 260 00:12:50,225 --> 00:12:53,265 Speaker 1: always like you're in that whirlwind of like I want 261 00:12:53,265 --> 00:12:55,665 Speaker 1: to try new things. I want to add the latest 262 00:12:55,665 --> 00:12:57,985 Speaker 1: and greatest to my routine and then if you go 263 00:12:58,065 --> 00:13:00,465 Speaker 1: and you're not in that environment. And actually a lot 264 00:13:00,465 --> 00:13:01,945 Speaker 1: of my colleagues that I used to work with at 265 00:13:01,945 --> 00:13:04,825 Speaker 1: Adoor Beauty would say this too. Is that once i'd 266 00:13:04,865 --> 00:13:07,345 Speaker 1: like re entered the real world or like you know, 267 00:13:07,465 --> 00:13:10,865 Speaker 1: the average university, yeah, the non beauty life, they were like, oh, 268 00:13:10,945 --> 00:13:14,705 Speaker 1: I actually like my routine. Like it's just stripped right back. 269 00:13:15,065 --> 00:13:18,465 Speaker 1: You know, it's not multiple serums. It's like, you know, 270 00:13:18,665 --> 00:13:22,185 Speaker 1: just one or two. It's much more simple. And like 271 00:13:22,385 --> 00:13:24,465 Speaker 1: the impact that that can also have on your skin 272 00:13:25,265 --> 00:13:28,305 Speaker 1: is you know, not surprising to us, but maybe to 273 00:13:28,385 --> 00:13:31,305 Speaker 1: the average person. Like sometimes I say, my skin's better 274 00:13:31,305 --> 00:13:34,745 Speaker 1: than it's ever been because I'm using less shit. But 275 00:13:35,465 --> 00:13:38,745 Speaker 1: my routine specifically, I never used to have, like my 276 00:13:38,785 --> 00:13:41,625 Speaker 1: skin types of the same. I've always had super dry skin, 277 00:13:42,185 --> 00:13:45,945 Speaker 1: very prone to redness. I'm always running a million degrees 278 00:13:46,545 --> 00:13:47,665 Speaker 1: so and sweating. 279 00:13:48,185 --> 00:13:49,705 Speaker 3: You must be quite hot at the moment. 280 00:13:49,825 --> 00:13:52,745 Speaker 1: I know, fluffy red card again, I brought my cardigan 281 00:13:52,785 --> 00:13:53,465 Speaker 1: from Melbourne. 282 00:13:53,785 --> 00:13:57,425 Speaker 2: When I'm sitting here sleevelessless. 283 00:13:57,585 --> 00:14:00,705 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. But probably the thing that changed 284 00:14:00,745 --> 00:14:07,105 Speaker 1: my routine fundamentally was developing periol dermatitis. So I never 285 00:14:07,185 --> 00:14:09,945 Speaker 1: used to have any issues trialing any products. You know, 286 00:14:10,065 --> 00:14:14,065 Speaker 1: would slap on vitamin A, no issues, loving life. And 287 00:14:14,105 --> 00:14:16,745 Speaker 1: then there was a particular article that I was writing 288 00:14:16,785 --> 00:14:19,625 Speaker 1: when I was at Adoor Beauty where I needed to 289 00:14:19,945 --> 00:14:23,025 Speaker 1: use a whole routine from one specific brand brand can 290 00:14:23,065 --> 00:14:27,985 Speaker 1: remain nameless. They recommended me a routine and I thought, okay, 291 00:14:28,105 --> 00:14:31,025 Speaker 1: like they've recommended it. It was recommended by their head 292 00:14:31,025 --> 00:14:34,025 Speaker 1: of education. You know, this should be fine. And the 293 00:14:34,105 --> 00:14:36,545 Speaker 1: routine actually included like you know, it was like an 294 00:14:36,625 --> 00:14:42,545 Speaker 1: exfoliating cleanser, then a liquid exfoliant, then an ah bh 295 00:14:42,545 --> 00:14:44,505 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and I just saw at the time. 296 00:14:44,545 --> 00:14:47,425 Speaker 1: I remember like I'm doing the routine. You have to 297 00:14:47,465 --> 00:14:50,185 Speaker 1: film it. So I'm doing the routine and I'm thinking 298 00:14:51,065 --> 00:14:53,545 Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't do this, you know, when like you're 299 00:14:53,545 --> 00:14:56,905 Speaker 1: trialing something or sometimes trust. 300 00:14:56,705 --> 00:15:00,345 Speaker 3: What they're saying, but then in the background like this isn't. 301 00:15:00,185 --> 00:15:02,785 Speaker 1: Right, or I was just like, I'm going to be 302 00:15:03,025 --> 00:15:06,585 Speaker 1: a good investigative journalist here and I'm gonna try the 303 00:15:06,705 --> 00:15:07,265 Speaker 1: routine that. 304 00:15:07,185 --> 00:15:08,905 Speaker 3: Was set destroy my skin barrier. 305 00:15:08,985 --> 00:15:11,505 Speaker 1: Yeah, same like food that you know that you shouldn't eat, 306 00:15:11,585 --> 00:15:13,545 Speaker 1: but you're like, oh, maybe this time will be fine. 307 00:15:13,625 --> 00:15:15,345 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not going to get the trots from people. 308 00:15:15,425 --> 00:15:20,065 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I put the you and the poo again. Sorry, 309 00:15:20,785 --> 00:15:23,225 Speaker 1: I literally. 310 00:15:23,065 --> 00:15:24,705 Speaker 3: I've needed to go since eight am. 311 00:15:24,945 --> 00:15:26,265 Speaker 1: Oh okay, do you need a break? 312 00:15:26,425 --> 00:15:28,345 Speaker 3: No, well I've been holding it in all day. 313 00:15:28,505 --> 00:15:32,545 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, back to the routine. Basically, I applied this 314 00:15:32,745 --> 00:15:37,745 Speaker 1: exfoliating serum on top of a liquid exfoliant. As I 315 00:15:37,785 --> 00:15:42,705 Speaker 1: could have predicted red ring of fire around my mouth instantly. 316 00:15:43,225 --> 00:15:45,265 Speaker 1: I had to actually wash it all off because it 317 00:15:45,345 --> 00:15:48,865 Speaker 1: was like it was literally like red red ring around 318 00:15:48,865 --> 00:15:51,385 Speaker 1: the nose around this like you know, the nasal laby 319 00:15:51,625 --> 00:15:56,745 Speaker 1: kind of folds here, dry and flaky for weeks, and 320 00:15:56,985 --> 00:15:59,065 Speaker 1: you know, I went to where I usually go to 321 00:15:59,105 --> 00:16:01,665 Speaker 1: have my skin treatments and she's like, yeah, that's periold 322 00:16:01,665 --> 00:16:04,985 Speaker 1: dermatitis kind of like contact because it's you know, because 323 00:16:05,025 --> 00:16:10,505 Speaker 1: of triggered by using skin care products that two exactly, 324 00:16:10,865 --> 00:16:13,585 Speaker 1: and then ever since, like I've not been able to 325 00:16:13,665 --> 00:16:16,105 Speaker 1: use skincare the same ever since, and that was probably 326 00:16:16,145 --> 00:16:19,385 Speaker 1: like four years ago now, so I don't always have it, 327 00:16:19,505 --> 00:16:23,025 Speaker 1: but like I have to think twice now before I 328 00:16:23,065 --> 00:16:26,665 Speaker 1: put something on my face. So it just means that 329 00:16:26,705 --> 00:16:28,745 Speaker 1: like I'm probably not using as much skincare as what 330 00:16:29,425 --> 00:16:32,745 Speaker 1: you might think, literally like I don't wash my face, 331 00:16:33,065 --> 00:16:35,625 Speaker 1: like no cleansing in the morning, like I'm a one 332 00:16:35,705 --> 00:16:38,945 Speaker 1: serum moisturize of sunscreen, and then at night time like 333 00:16:39,585 --> 00:16:43,185 Speaker 1: maybe I exfoliate once a week and I might use 334 00:16:43,225 --> 00:16:48,505 Speaker 1: a nice cinamid serum face oil. Like it's so pared back, 335 00:16:49,145 --> 00:16:49,905 Speaker 1: it's so boring. 336 00:16:50,705 --> 00:16:54,465 Speaker 2: As we heard on Friday's episode, there isn't a vene 337 00:16:54,505 --> 00:16:56,905 Speaker 2: moisturize that you're obsessed with. But can you just name 338 00:16:56,945 --> 00:16:59,465 Speaker 2: a couple of others that have been constants that you 339 00:16:59,945 --> 00:17:02,465 Speaker 2: just absolutely love in your routine. 340 00:17:02,025 --> 00:17:06,025 Speaker 1: Absolutely well obviously like knowing that most recently I was 341 00:17:06,065 --> 00:17:09,145 Speaker 1: working at Alpha H so there's gonna be there's you know. 342 00:17:09,225 --> 00:17:11,905 Speaker 1: And also the great thing about when you work for 343 00:17:11,945 --> 00:17:15,265 Speaker 1: a brand is you get your stuff discounts, so naturally 344 00:17:15,385 --> 00:17:18,945 Speaker 1: you stock up. So probably like the Alphah balancing cleanser 345 00:17:19,065 --> 00:17:20,745 Speaker 1: is a product that I use a lot, like a 346 00:17:20,825 --> 00:17:25,825 Speaker 1: cream cleanser, no fragrance, great for dry skin, and just 347 00:17:25,945 --> 00:17:29,185 Speaker 1: like that's after my you know, I remove my makeup 348 00:17:29,225 --> 00:17:32,305 Speaker 1: with my cleansing balm, then I use that the even 349 00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:37,985 Speaker 1: moisturizer Ultraviolet Supreme Screen. That's actually a product that has 350 00:17:38,025 --> 00:17:42,025 Speaker 1: been in my routine for like since the last time 351 00:17:42,025 --> 00:17:42,545 Speaker 1: I was here. 352 00:17:42,825 --> 00:17:46,945 Speaker 2: You are back in the beauty seat of seeing everything 353 00:17:47,105 --> 00:17:49,985 Speaker 2: before it comes out. What do you think is going 354 00:17:50,025 --> 00:17:53,545 Speaker 2: to be making us all very poor in spring summer? 355 00:17:54,105 --> 00:17:57,785 Speaker 1: Well, from a makeup perspective, like immediately, I feel like 356 00:17:58,145 --> 00:18:01,425 Speaker 1: as soon as Taylor Swift's album comes out, everyone's going 357 00:18:01,505 --> 00:18:05,105 Speaker 1: to be getting on the orange bandwagon, like orange fashion, 358 00:18:05,225 --> 00:18:06,185 Speaker 1: orange makeup. 359 00:18:06,385 --> 00:18:07,585 Speaker 3: Is it orange themed? 360 00:18:07,945 --> 00:18:10,985 Speaker 1: Yeah, So her album It's the Life of a show 361 00:18:10,985 --> 00:18:14,505 Speaker 1: Girl the color because she has colors associated with her albums. 362 00:18:14,545 --> 00:18:17,905 Speaker 1: It's orange, but it's like a it's actually a very 363 00:18:17,985 --> 00:18:18,985 Speaker 1: mumma mea orange. 364 00:18:19,105 --> 00:18:19,745 Speaker 3: It's burnt. 365 00:18:20,265 --> 00:18:23,705 Speaker 1: It's like it's a bright orange. Oh cool. But so 366 00:18:23,825 --> 00:18:26,865 Speaker 1: I think like we'll be seeing like all different shades 367 00:18:26,905 --> 00:18:31,185 Speaker 1: of orange from like your peach and coral through to 368 00:18:31,345 --> 00:18:36,705 Speaker 1: like that like bricky burnt orange caramel. I love that though, Yeah, 369 00:18:36,825 --> 00:18:39,825 Speaker 1: And then I guess in skincare, it's like all just 370 00:18:39,905 --> 00:18:43,665 Speaker 1: with it's all these treatments, like all the different innovations 371 00:18:43,665 --> 00:18:47,225 Speaker 1: that are coming out in formulas, like the different types 372 00:18:47,265 --> 00:18:49,905 Speaker 1: of compounds that you haven't heard of before. Names you 373 00:18:49,945 --> 00:18:52,945 Speaker 1: can't pronounce, just kind of like getting a lot more techy. 374 00:18:53,425 --> 00:18:56,985 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, like all of the salmon sperm basically 375 00:18:57,225 --> 00:19:00,625 Speaker 1: well yeah, pdrn as we call it in the industry, 376 00:19:01,505 --> 00:19:02,385 Speaker 1: not salmon jes. 377 00:19:02,585 --> 00:19:02,825 Speaker 3: Yeah. 378 00:19:02,945 --> 00:19:04,625 Speaker 2: I did get a lot of dms from people that 379 00:19:04,665 --> 00:19:07,265 Speaker 2: were like, I appreciate that you asked doctor Nami if 380 00:19:07,305 --> 00:19:10,385 Speaker 2: someone was jacking off the salmons, because everyone. 381 00:19:10,185 --> 00:19:12,945 Speaker 1: That that's the snails now the salmon. 382 00:19:12,825 --> 00:19:15,305 Speaker 3: The poor, poor sluggy creatures. 383 00:19:20,505 --> 00:19:23,345 Speaker 2: All right, A bit of a budget reality check, Amy Clark. 384 00:19:23,505 --> 00:19:26,225 Speaker 2: Not everyone can afford the expensive stuff you write about. 385 00:19:26,265 --> 00:19:29,505 Speaker 2: What is the best drug store find you have found 386 00:19:29,905 --> 00:19:33,545 Speaker 2: that really rivals all of the fancy products apart from 387 00:19:33,545 --> 00:19:36,545 Speaker 2: the event Moistrasa, because you showed us how much you 388 00:19:36,625 --> 00:19:38,545 Speaker 2: loved that in Friday's episode. 389 00:19:38,865 --> 00:19:43,185 Speaker 1: I reckon it's color cosmetics. Like in terms of lipsticks, 390 00:19:43,305 --> 00:19:46,905 Speaker 1: lip products, like the lip products that I find, like 391 00:19:46,945 --> 00:19:49,985 Speaker 1: there's nothing better than just trolling like your chemist ware 392 00:19:50,025 --> 00:19:54,625 Speaker 1: house or your price line literally and like going through 393 00:19:54,705 --> 00:19:57,985 Speaker 1: having a look. So I think like lip products specifically, 394 00:19:58,625 --> 00:20:02,225 Speaker 1: but also like when it comes to skincare, you know, 395 00:20:02,665 --> 00:20:04,865 Speaker 1: if it's brands that are all owned by the same 396 00:20:04,905 --> 00:20:08,985 Speaker 1: parent company, say like a Laureal Paris versus you know, 397 00:20:09,385 --> 00:20:13,025 Speaker 1: not comparing it to skin pseuiticals, but both owned by 398 00:20:13,265 --> 00:20:17,305 Speaker 1: Laurel like Laroche Pezz for example, Sarah Vi or owned 399 00:20:17,385 --> 00:20:20,745 Speaker 1: under the same umbrella, so like they are all privy 400 00:20:20,825 --> 00:20:25,425 Speaker 1: to those more accessible brands benefit from the heavy investment 401 00:20:25,585 --> 00:20:28,505 Speaker 1: that the more kind of science led brands have put 402 00:20:28,545 --> 00:20:29,945 Speaker 1: in over the years. 403 00:20:30,425 --> 00:20:33,665 Speaker 2: So they're really good BTS insight because you can then 404 00:20:33,705 --> 00:20:36,745 Speaker 2: trust the more affordable products they might have be using 405 00:20:36,785 --> 00:20:40,905 Speaker 2: the same quality ingredients, but the research is. 406 00:20:41,025 --> 00:20:44,265 Speaker 1: Yeah, or it's just like and not every product is 407 00:20:44,345 --> 00:20:47,785 Speaker 1: right for everyone, but like if you know, it's just 408 00:20:47,865 --> 00:20:51,145 Speaker 1: interesting understanding which brands are owned by which parent companies. 409 00:20:51,145 --> 00:20:54,185 Speaker 2: I think in general, yeah, there's like five that own 410 00:20:54,705 --> 00:20:57,985 Speaker 2: ninety percent of brands pretty much. What is one step 411 00:20:58,025 --> 00:21:00,425 Speaker 2: you never skip even when you're running late and you're 412 00:21:00,465 --> 00:21:01,665 Speaker 2: not allowed to say SBF. 413 00:21:02,225 --> 00:21:05,345 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've talked a lot about lips. I 414 00:21:05,425 --> 00:21:07,465 Speaker 1: mean I've said it so many times that my natural 415 00:21:07,705 --> 00:21:12,305 Speaker 1: color is basically translation why or with like a blue 416 00:21:12,305 --> 00:21:15,665 Speaker 1: corpse like undertone. So I'm never going to go out 417 00:21:15,665 --> 00:21:18,745 Speaker 1: with just a clear lip balm on or a clear gloss. Ever, 418 00:21:19,385 --> 00:21:22,025 Speaker 1: so it's always going to be a lip and browse clear, 419 00:21:22,065 --> 00:21:22,465 Speaker 1: bra Jael. 420 00:21:22,905 --> 00:21:26,985 Speaker 2: Okay, we're just quickly going to finish off today's episode 421 00:21:27,025 --> 00:21:28,785 Speaker 2: with a stand by your brand segment. 422 00:21:28,825 --> 00:21:31,305 Speaker 3: Amy. The producers have put this together. 423 00:21:31,985 --> 00:21:35,305 Speaker 2: With some beauty receipts, which I love a receipt I love, 424 00:21:35,385 --> 00:21:37,505 Speaker 2: like there's nothing better than screenshotting a stenting each to someone. 425 00:21:37,625 --> 00:21:38,265 Speaker 3: Yeah you did. 426 00:21:38,785 --> 00:21:40,745 Speaker 2: We're going to go back in time six years ago, 427 00:21:40,825 --> 00:21:44,705 Speaker 2: the thirteenth of August twenty nineteen, a Spandy Savy episode. 428 00:21:44,785 --> 00:21:47,785 Speaker 2: Oh my god, all right, Amy, your spendy was the 429 00:21:47,865 --> 00:21:50,385 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Arden eight hour Cream lip. 430 00:21:50,585 --> 00:21:53,025 Speaker 3: What a surprise, a lip product, lip. 431 00:21:52,825 --> 00:21:56,545 Speaker 2: Protectant stick in a sheer tint twenty eight dollars. 432 00:21:56,825 --> 00:21:59,025 Speaker 1: Oh, I stand by it, but it's not in my 433 00:21:59,065 --> 00:22:03,505 Speaker 1: current routine. Probably also because once I started working in 434 00:22:03,585 --> 00:22:07,705 Speaker 1: a door beauty, you basically like your whole world becomes 435 00:22:07,705 --> 00:22:09,425 Speaker 1: the brands that a stop there, and this is a 436 00:22:09,425 --> 00:22:12,865 Speaker 1: mech exclusive product. So I still rate it, but it's 437 00:22:12,865 --> 00:22:14,105 Speaker 1: not currently in my routine. 438 00:22:14,145 --> 00:22:14,465 Speaker 3: Okay. 439 00:22:15,305 --> 00:22:19,425 Speaker 2: And your savor was the Cora's Black Pepper Cashmere lemonwood 440 00:22:19,425 --> 00:22:22,425 Speaker 2: eed et sixty five dollars. This was clearly when we like, 441 00:22:22,465 --> 00:22:26,585 Speaker 2: this was clearly a Kelly math episode. It's an affordable 442 00:22:26,825 --> 00:22:29,185 Speaker 2: EDT and the lip product is twenty eight dollars. 443 00:22:29,265 --> 00:22:31,865 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kelly Math, YEA yeah. I'm not sure what six 444 00:22:32,025 --> 00:22:34,705 Speaker 1: years ago me was thinking there, but I still love 445 00:22:34,825 --> 00:22:38,505 Speaker 1: that fragrance, like it's so good and actually unisex, so 446 00:22:38,625 --> 00:22:41,305 Speaker 1: like Sam would my husband, Sam would still use that 447 00:22:41,345 --> 00:22:41,745 Speaker 1: as well. 448 00:22:42,065 --> 00:22:46,265 Speaker 2: Okay, My spendy was the Body Shop spar of the world, 449 00:22:46,385 --> 00:22:50,385 Speaker 2: Japanese Camellia cream. Listen, that is ringing your bell and 450 00:22:50,425 --> 00:22:51,825 Speaker 2: it sounds beautiful. 451 00:22:53,025 --> 00:22:53,825 Speaker 1: I don't know her. 452 00:22:54,305 --> 00:22:55,065 Speaker 3: I don't know her. 453 00:22:55,345 --> 00:22:59,025 Speaker 2: It is ringing a bell, and I, if I recall correctly, 454 00:22:59,065 --> 00:23:02,065 Speaker 2: this smelt incredible. So I'm pretty sure I was probably 455 00:23:02,105 --> 00:23:04,145 Speaker 2: banging on about how beautiful this smelt. 456 00:23:04,345 --> 00:23:06,625 Speaker 3: But did I ever repurchase it? No, looking back, I 457 00:23:06,665 --> 00:23:08,145 Speaker 3: don't even know if it exists anymore. 458 00:23:08,865 --> 00:23:09,665 Speaker 1: Sorry, the body sh. 459 00:23:11,105 --> 00:23:14,425 Speaker 2: And my saving I do not remember recommending this at all. 460 00:23:14,705 --> 00:23:17,825 Speaker 2: Fenty Beauty fly Liner long wear liquid eye liner. I'm 461 00:23:17,825 --> 00:23:21,105 Speaker 2: pretty sure I've recently said I've not used many fancy 462 00:23:21,105 --> 00:23:22,265 Speaker 2: products in my life. 463 00:23:23,345 --> 00:23:26,425 Speaker 3: That was a lie, apparently, Listen. I'm sure it was great. 464 00:23:26,545 --> 00:23:30,465 Speaker 2: I don't recommend things unless they're great, of course, but don't. 465 00:23:30,305 --> 00:23:32,425 Speaker 3: Recall these, so they're not part of my current routine. 466 00:23:32,505 --> 00:23:36,145 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say you've recommended like thousands 467 00:23:36,145 --> 00:23:39,025 Speaker 1: of products over the years. You'd be like the seven 468 00:23:39,105 --> 00:23:41,865 Speaker 1: years of this podcast, So we'll give you a pass there. Yeah. 469 00:23:41,905 --> 00:23:43,705 Speaker 2: It would have been cool though, if this was like 470 00:23:43,745 --> 00:23:46,025 Speaker 2: a product that work one of them out of all 471 00:23:46,065 --> 00:23:46,785 Speaker 2: of ours. 472 00:23:46,545 --> 00:23:49,265 Speaker 3: Was a product that we were like still dedicated to. 473 00:23:49,865 --> 00:23:51,865 Speaker 1: We didn't sync up very well, no juice. 474 00:23:51,865 --> 00:23:54,105 Speaker 2: But also that also would say that we're not very 475 00:23:54,105 --> 00:23:56,225 Speaker 2: good at our jobs because we're not trialing enough things. 476 00:23:56,465 --> 00:24:01,105 Speaker 2: Well lucky, I'm back, yes, exactly, all right, Amy, final question, 477 00:24:01,225 --> 00:24:03,305 Speaker 2: do you have any beauty words to live by? I'm 478 00:24:03,345 --> 00:24:04,625 Speaker 2: in a bit of a silly mood, so if you 479 00:24:04,705 --> 00:24:06,425 Speaker 2: say something earnest, I might giggle. 480 00:24:06,865 --> 00:24:09,705 Speaker 1: Okay, well I hope to make you laugh anyway, But 481 00:24:09,865 --> 00:24:13,625 Speaker 1: I actually do. I don't don't always actually live by them, 482 00:24:13,705 --> 00:24:17,065 Speaker 1: but I always repeat them to myself. If in doubt, 483 00:24:17,625 --> 00:24:20,265 Speaker 1: wash your hair. You know those times when you're like 484 00:24:20,745 --> 00:24:24,025 Speaker 1: should I should I wash my hair? Oh, you will 485 00:24:24,185 --> 00:24:26,185 Speaker 1: always regret it, hands down. 486 00:24:26,305 --> 00:24:29,345 Speaker 3: Exhibit A Exhibit A. 487 00:24:31,185 --> 00:24:34,265 Speaker 2: That Okay, that was in Earnest, that was bab Well 488 00:24:34,425 --> 00:24:36,905 Speaker 2: that's it for today. Thank you so much for joining me. 489 00:24:36,945 --> 00:24:40,425 Speaker 2: Amy it is you have given us so much juicy goss. 490 00:24:40,905 --> 00:24:43,265 Speaker 1: Really appreciate it, really fun. Thank you so much for 491 00:24:43,305 --> 00:24:44,025 Speaker 1: having me back. 492 00:24:44,745 --> 00:24:48,025 Speaker 2: If you want more beauty insights and product recommendations, don't 493 00:24:48,025 --> 00:24:51,185 Speaker 2: forget to check out Amy's work on the MoMA Me website. 494 00:24:51,265 --> 00:24:52,585 Speaker 3: Bye, see you next time.