1 00:00:10,614 --> 00:00:15,254 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mumma Mea podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges 2 00:00:15,334 --> 00:00:18,134 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,214 --> 00:00:18,934 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,854 --> 00:00:24,974 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily 5 00:00:25,014 --> 00:00:29,694 Speaker 2: news podcast. The Quikie Dubai markets itself as a glittering 6 00:00:29,774 --> 00:00:33,774 Speaker 2: paradise of luxury and safety, but beneath the surface lies 7 00:00:33,814 --> 00:00:36,974 Speaker 2: a dark reality for women who find themselves trapped in 8 00:00:37,014 --> 00:00:41,094 Speaker 2: its gilded cage. Plus names and rolls of Dolly Olderton's 9 00:00:41,094 --> 00:00:44,734 Speaker 2: Pride and Prejudice adaptation have been announced, but it's raising 10 00:00:44,854 --> 00:00:48,774 Speaker 2: questions about casting the classics. Before we get there, here's 11 00:00:48,814 --> 00:00:52,014 Speaker 2: Clare Murphy with the latest from the Quickie newsroom for Monday, 12 00:00:52,134 --> 00:00:53,054 Speaker 2: April fourteen. 13 00:00:53,614 --> 00:00:56,814 Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. Both major parties held their campaign launches over 14 00:00:56,854 --> 00:01:00,254 Speaker 1: the weekend on opposite sides of the country. Prime Minister 15 00:01:00,334 --> 00:01:04,134 Speaker 1: Anthony Albernezi kicked off Labour's campaign in Perth, announcing an 16 00:01:04,174 --> 00:01:07,534 Speaker 1: instant one thousand dollar tax write off for work expenses 17 00:01:07,734 --> 00:01:10,854 Speaker 1: where people won't need receipts. He also pledged a further 18 00:01:10,894 --> 00:01:13,654 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand homes that will be built solely for 19 00:01:13,734 --> 00:01:16,614 Speaker 1: first home buyers and the expansion of a program that 20 00:01:16,614 --> 00:01:18,694 Speaker 1: would let them get a mortgage with just a five 21 00:01:18,734 --> 00:01:22,734 Speaker 1: percent deposit with the government as Garran tour Mister Albanezi, 22 00:01:22,814 --> 00:01:25,174 Speaker 1: who was welcomed to the event by former Prime Minister 23 00:01:25,254 --> 00:01:28,694 Speaker 1: Julia Gillard, used his speech to paint Opposition leader Peter 24 00:01:28,814 --> 00:01:32,174 Speaker 1: Dutton as Trump Lte, saying the Coalition were borrowing the 25 00:01:32,294 --> 00:01:36,054 Speaker 1: US President's policies, asking the crowd why on earth Australia 26 00:01:36,054 --> 00:01:38,694 Speaker 1: would try to mimic anywhere else when we'd led the 27 00:01:38,694 --> 00:01:42,054 Speaker 1: world when it comes to policies like minimum wage and superannuation. 28 00:01:42,734 --> 00:01:46,094 Speaker 1: WA Premier Roger Cook also spoke to the audience, pointing 29 00:01:46,094 --> 00:01:49,534 Speaker 1: out that the previous Morrison government had soured relationships with 30 00:01:49,574 --> 00:01:53,254 Speaker 1: international partners, including kicking off a trade war with China, 31 00:01:53,614 --> 00:01:57,094 Speaker 1: Mister Cook saying Liberal shattered friends faster than Elon Musk 32 00:01:57,334 --> 00:01:59,814 Speaker 1: and that for w WA's and export state that was 33 00:01:59,894 --> 00:02:04,174 Speaker 1: an appalling experience. Meanwhile, Opposition leader Peter Dutton launched the 34 00:02:04,214 --> 00:02:07,454 Speaker 1: Liberal campaign at the Liverpool Catholic Club in Western Sydney, 35 00:02:07,734 --> 00:02:10,854 Speaker 1: joined by three former leaders Tony Abbot, Scott Morrison and 36 00:02:10,934 --> 00:02:14,454 Speaker 1: John Howard. Mister Dutton had announced a promise to enable 37 00:02:14,494 --> 00:02:17,174 Speaker 1: first Home buyers to make the interest paid on the 38 00:02:17,214 --> 00:02:20,014 Speaker 1: first six hundred and fifty thousand dollars of their mortgage 39 00:02:20,054 --> 00:02:23,734 Speaker 1: tax deductible, with no cap on the mortgage, overall size 40 00:02:23,934 --> 00:02:26,374 Speaker 1: or the price of the home, telling the audience that 41 00:02:26,414 --> 00:02:29,254 Speaker 1: the average family will save around eleven thousand dollars a 42 00:02:29,334 --> 00:02:32,454 Speaker 1: year or fifty five thousand dollars over the five years. 43 00:02:32,734 --> 00:02:35,614 Speaker 1: The scheme will be means tested and limited to people 44 00:02:35,654 --> 00:02:38,014 Speaker 1: earning up to one hundred and seventy five thousand for 45 00:02:38,134 --> 00:02:41,294 Speaker 1: singles and two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for couples, 46 00:02:41,574 --> 00:02:44,734 Speaker 1: Shadow Housing Minister Michael Sikhar also saying it will be 47 00:02:44,774 --> 00:02:47,974 Speaker 1: limited to those buying new homes. Mister Dutton told the 48 00:02:47,974 --> 00:02:50,854 Speaker 1: crowd that Australians can't afford another three years like the 49 00:02:50,934 --> 00:02:54,534 Speaker 1: last three, saying the election is about your future. He 50 00:02:54,574 --> 00:02:57,694 Speaker 1: paid homage to his predecessors, thanking Tony Abbott for his 51 00:02:57,774 --> 00:03:00,814 Speaker 1: work on the defense budget, acknowledging John Howard for his 52 00:03:00,934 --> 00:03:03,214 Speaker 1: legacy and for giving him his start as a minister, 53 00:03:03,574 --> 00:03:06,654 Speaker 1: and Scott Morrison for his guidance during the COVID pandemic, 54 00:03:06,974 --> 00:03:09,254 Speaker 1: saying he's learned a lot from the mens. Stopping the 55 00:03:09,254 --> 00:03:13,054 Speaker 1: boat referring to mister Abbott's twenty thirteen pledge saying again 56 00:03:13,254 --> 00:03:16,534 Speaker 1: we will stop them. New South Wales Premier Chris Mins, 57 00:03:16,534 --> 00:03:19,774 Speaker 1: Governor General Sam Mostyn and New South Wales Police Commissioner 58 00:03:19,854 --> 00:03:23,134 Speaker 1: Karen Webb were among the dignitaries who attended a memorial 59 00:03:23,174 --> 00:03:26,014 Speaker 1: service for the victims of the Bondai Junction stabbing attack 60 00:03:26,134 --> 00:03:28,894 Speaker 1: one year on. A permanent memorial is yet to be 61 00:03:28,934 --> 00:03:32,414 Speaker 1: built at the shopping center where Ashley Good, Dawn Singleton, 62 00:03:32,654 --> 00:03:36,534 Speaker 1: Jade Young Pikreadacia Yushuan Chen and for Us to Hear 63 00:03:36,574 --> 00:03:39,894 Speaker 1: were killed. Flowers and tributes left instead inside the center 64 00:03:40,054 --> 00:03:43,774 Speaker 1: with messages to those lost. Inspector Amy Scott was also 65 00:03:43,854 --> 00:03:46,774 Speaker 1: in attendance. She was the officer who shot and killed 66 00:03:46,814 --> 00:03:50,334 Speaker 1: the attacker, bringing his rampage to an end. An inquest 67 00:03:50,374 --> 00:03:52,894 Speaker 1: into the attack will begin later this month, which we'll 68 00:03:52,894 --> 00:03:55,774 Speaker 1: look into the forty year old attacker's mental health and treatment, 69 00:03:56,094 --> 00:03:59,414 Speaker 1: his past interactions with police, and the response from center 70 00:03:59,494 --> 00:04:03,734 Speaker 1: management and emergency services. With winter just around the corner, 71 00:04:03,774 --> 00:04:06,014 Speaker 1: health experts are calling on Ozzies to get a flu 72 00:04:06,134 --> 00:04:09,374 Speaker 1: jab and reduce the misery. There have been more cases 73 00:04:09,414 --> 00:04:12,254 Speaker 1: of influenza B so far in twenty twenty five than 74 00:04:12,294 --> 00:04:15,534 Speaker 1: at the same time in recent years, particularly amongst school 75 00:04:15,574 --> 00:04:19,294 Speaker 1: aged children and young adults. Chief Medical Officer Anthony Lawless 76 00:04:19,294 --> 00:04:24,014 Speaker 1: says people should vaccinate themselves against influenza and other respiratory diseases, 77 00:04:24,374 --> 00:04:28,534 Speaker 1: including RSV, hooping cough if you're pregnant, and COVID if 78 00:04:28,574 --> 00:04:31,454 Speaker 1: you're in an at risk group. Experts say that people 79 00:04:31,494 --> 00:04:33,374 Speaker 1: tend to put flu in the same category as the 80 00:04:33,414 --> 00:04:37,214 Speaker 1: common cold, thinking it's relatively minor, but influenza could cause 81 00:04:37,254 --> 00:04:40,534 Speaker 1: up to two thousand deaths per year. Health experts urging 82 00:04:40,574 --> 00:04:43,374 Speaker 1: everyone to protect the most vulnerable in the community and 83 00:04:43,454 --> 00:04:46,974 Speaker 1: ask your GP or pharmacy about getting a jab. Matilda 84 00:04:46,974 --> 00:04:50,014 Speaker 1: star Mary Fowler has limped from the field after injuring 85 00:04:50,054 --> 00:04:52,974 Speaker 1: her right knee in Manchester City's semi final match against 86 00:04:53,054 --> 00:04:56,254 Speaker 1: man United. Fowler appeared to wrench her knee while over 87 00:04:56,294 --> 00:04:58,974 Speaker 1: stretching for the ball just twenty minutes into the clash 88 00:04:59,014 --> 00:05:02,134 Speaker 1: with their neighbors. Manager Nick Cushing said immediately after the 89 00:05:02,134 --> 00:05:04,374 Speaker 1: game that it doesn't look great, but that he didn't 90 00:05:04,374 --> 00:05:07,254 Speaker 1: want to speculate and they aren't fearing the worst. It 91 00:05:07,294 --> 00:05:09,374 Speaker 1: was a disappointing end to what was shaping up to 92 00:05:09,374 --> 00:05:11,734 Speaker 1: be a very good week for Fowler, who'd scored for 93 00:05:11,774 --> 00:05:15,414 Speaker 1: the Matildas in their win over South Korea back in Australia. 94 00:05:15,214 --> 00:05:24,374 Speaker 2: Thanks Claire. Next, the dark side of Dubai's party scene. 95 00:05:26,374 --> 00:05:30,294 Speaker 2: Dubai's social media presence is filled with influences living their 96 00:05:30,294 --> 00:05:34,494 Speaker 2: best lives in luxury hotels, looking over stunning views and landscapes, 97 00:05:34,534 --> 00:05:38,574 Speaker 2: and relaxing on private yachts. But behind this carefully curated 98 00:05:38,614 --> 00:05:43,814 Speaker 2: Instagram feed lies a sinister reality that's rarely discussed. Mumma 99 00:05:43,854 --> 00:05:47,574 Speaker 2: MIA's senior features writer Nicole Madigan has been investigating what's 100 00:05:47,614 --> 00:05:51,534 Speaker 2: become known as porter potty parties, and a warning, this 101 00:05:51,654 --> 00:05:55,174 Speaker 2: story contains content that some listeners may find distressing. 102 00:05:56,694 --> 00:06:00,574 Speaker 3: Dubai It's marketed as one of the safest places in 103 00:06:00,614 --> 00:06:03,694 Speaker 3: the world, a glittering jewel in the Middle East that 104 00:06:03,774 --> 00:06:09,374 Speaker 3: promises luxury, glamour and endless opportunities. But beneath this carefully 105 00:06:09,574 --> 00:06:16,174 Speaker 3: crafted image lies a disturbing reality, especially for women. According 106 00:06:16,174 --> 00:06:19,534 Speaker 3: to human rights activist and founder of Detained in Dubai, 107 00:06:19,774 --> 00:06:24,094 Speaker 3: rather Sterling, Dubai's pristine reputation is largely the product of 108 00:06:24,174 --> 00:06:28,814 Speaker 3: sophisticated pr and marketing campaigns. The city is promoted as 109 00:06:28,854 --> 00:06:32,894 Speaker 3: one of the safest and most crime predestinations globally, but 110 00:06:33,174 --> 00:06:37,614 Speaker 3: government travel advisories don't delve into the darker details. We're 111 00:06:37,654 --> 00:06:42,094 Speaker 3: talking about what's become known as porter potty parties, events 112 00:06:42,094 --> 00:06:45,054 Speaker 3: where women allured to Dubai under the pretense of attending 113 00:06:45,214 --> 00:06:50,054 Speaker 3: high status gatherings, often with promises of substantial payment, but 114 00:06:50,214 --> 00:06:52,734 Speaker 3: what awaits them is far from what they led to believe. 115 00:06:54,014 --> 00:06:56,614 Speaker 3: RADA says that women might be invited to model or 116 00:06:56,694 --> 00:07:00,694 Speaker 3: party with VIPs, or they might be employed as singers, musicians, 117 00:07:00,774 --> 00:07:04,894 Speaker 3: or dancers. Once there, they can be drugged or coerced 118 00:07:04,934 --> 00:07:09,214 Speaker 3: into sexual acts. Their passports might be confiscated, and the 119 00:07:09,214 --> 00:07:12,374 Speaker 3: threat of imprisonment hangs over their heads if they don't comply. 120 00:07:13,734 --> 00:07:17,414 Speaker 3: The sexual acts allegedly performed at these parties are reportedly 121 00:07:17,574 --> 00:07:23,654 Speaker 3: particularly depraved, often involving violence and humiliation. What makes this 122 00:07:23,734 --> 00:07:29,574 Speaker 3: situation particularly dangerous is Dubai's legal system. Unlike many Western countries, 123 00:07:29,654 --> 00:07:32,974 Speaker 3: a simple allegation against a woman can be enough for prosecution. 124 00:07:33,574 --> 00:07:36,774 Speaker 3: There have been numerous cases, according to RADA, where women 125 00:07:36,774 --> 00:07:40,694 Speaker 3: who tried to report their assaults found themselves charged with crimes. Instead, 126 00:07:41,294 --> 00:07:45,414 Speaker 3: this isn't just affecting models or influences. Women who travel 127 00:07:45,454 --> 00:07:48,574 Speaker 3: to work in Dubai from all different professions, from lawyers 128 00:07:48,614 --> 00:07:54,214 Speaker 3: to personal assistants, have reportedly experienced similar treatment. If women protest, 129 00:07:54,334 --> 00:07:57,614 Speaker 3: they're often threatened with police reports or told that trying 130 00:07:57,654 --> 00:08:01,374 Speaker 3: to report an incident will get them locked up. In 131 00:08:01,374 --> 00:08:05,734 Speaker 3: one particular case, an Australian woman, Alisha Gali, was charged 132 00:08:05,774 --> 00:08:09,414 Speaker 3: with sex outside marriage after she was drugged and assaulted. 133 00:08:10,094 --> 00:08:13,774 Speaker 3: These aren't isolated incidents, says RADA. They're part of a 134 00:08:13,854 --> 00:08:18,894 Speaker 3: pattern that continues to this day. Just last month, this 135 00:08:19,054 --> 00:08:23,654 Speaker 3: dark reality made headlines when OnlyFans model Maria Kovalchuk was 136 00:08:23,654 --> 00:08:26,814 Speaker 3: found beaten and bloodied on the side of the road. 137 00:08:27,254 --> 00:08:30,374 Speaker 3: The twenty year old Ukrainian had gone missing after allegedly 138 00:08:30,414 --> 00:08:33,654 Speaker 3: attending a party with two men from the modeling business. 139 00:08:34,374 --> 00:08:39,254 Speaker 3: Despite suffering multiple broken limbs and requiring four surgeries, Dubai 140 00:08:39,294 --> 00:08:42,494 Speaker 3: police ruled it an accident, claiming she had fallen at 141 00:08:42,494 --> 00:08:48,054 Speaker 3: a construction site. Ukrainian authorities, however, aren't buying this explanation 142 00:08:48,454 --> 00:08:52,614 Speaker 3: and have launched their own human trafficking investigation. RADA has 143 00:08:52,654 --> 00:08:57,094 Speaker 3: expressed particular concern for Maria's well being a common occurrence 144 00:08:57,134 --> 00:09:00,654 Speaker 3: in these cases. Rada warns that any woman accepting an 145 00:09:00,694 --> 00:09:04,574 Speaker 3: invitation to Dubai, whether for a party or professional engagement, 146 00:09:04,774 --> 00:09:08,254 Speaker 3: needs to understand the risks. The glitz and glamour shown 147 00:09:08,294 --> 00:09:11,054 Speaker 3: on TV shows and so social media may be alluring, 148 00:09:11,414 --> 00:09:14,734 Speaker 3: but it masks a system where women can find themselves trapped, 149 00:09:15,014 --> 00:09:18,894 Speaker 3: with their basic rights stripped away at a moment's notice. 150 00:09:19,014 --> 00:09:21,974 Speaker 3: As Rider puts it, the reality is that in Dubai, 151 00:09:22,534 --> 00:09:25,534 Speaker 3: even a simple allegation against a woman from someone who 152 00:09:25,574 --> 00:09:28,294 Speaker 3: knows how to work the system can lead to imprisonment, 153 00:09:28,774 --> 00:09:31,974 Speaker 3: making it a powerful tool for coercion and control. 154 00:09:37,894 --> 00:09:40,694 Speaker 2: The Internet is divided over news that Emma Corn and 155 00:09:40,814 --> 00:09:44,894 Speaker 2: Jack Louden will lead Netflix's new adaptation of Pride and Prejudice, 156 00:09:44,974 --> 00:09:48,214 Speaker 2: with Olivia Coleman set to play the iconic Missus Bennett. 157 00:09:48,614 --> 00:09:52,734 Speaker 2: It's one of two major classic novel adaptations currently making headlines, 158 00:09:53,054 --> 00:09:55,854 Speaker 2: with the first images from the new Wuthering Heights series 159 00:09:55,934 --> 00:09:59,814 Speaker 2: also dropping recently, or talking snaps of Margot Robbie as 160 00:09:59,894 --> 00:10:03,774 Speaker 2: Catherine Earnshaw in a very eighties looking wedding gown. That's 161 00:10:03,774 --> 00:10:08,934 Speaker 2: not eighteen eighties. We're talking nineteen eighties, but it's more 162 00:10:08,934 --> 00:10:11,854 Speaker 2: beloved Class six get the rework treatment. Some are asking 163 00:10:11,894 --> 00:10:16,334 Speaker 2: whether we need adaptations and if we're doing these stories justice. 164 00:10:17,014 --> 00:10:20,894 Speaker 2: Mamma MIA's entertainment editor Tina Burke has thoughts. Tina, let's 165 00:10:20,934 --> 00:10:24,534 Speaker 2: start with Pride and Prejudice. Who's involved? What do we know? 166 00:10:25,214 --> 00:10:27,614 Speaker 4: So the new part of Prejudice is being adapted by 167 00:10:27,654 --> 00:10:30,734 Speaker 4: Dolly Alderton, who I'm sure many listeners know, Like, she's 168 00:10:30,734 --> 00:10:33,334 Speaker 4: this really incredible author. One of her books was turned 169 00:10:33,374 --> 00:10:35,894 Speaker 4: into a series and then now she's adapting obviously Jane 170 00:10:35,934 --> 00:10:39,854 Speaker 4: Austen for Netflix. The director is actually the director behind 171 00:10:39,854 --> 00:10:41,734 Speaker 4: Heart Stopper, which, if you don't know, is this really 172 00:10:41,734 --> 00:10:45,134 Speaker 4: sweet Netflix series again beautiful, that's your Ross Lynn. 173 00:10:45,454 --> 00:10:47,334 Speaker 5: And then the cast has just been confirmed. 174 00:10:47,374 --> 00:10:51,174 Speaker 4: So we've got Emma corn starring as Elizabeth Bennett. We've 175 00:10:51,174 --> 00:10:54,614 Speaker 4: got Jack Loudon starring as mister Darcy, and Olivia Coleman 176 00:10:54,694 --> 00:10:57,894 Speaker 4: as Missus Bennett. Everyone's like favorite neurotic mother. 177 00:10:58,174 --> 00:11:02,014 Speaker 2: Talk to me about Emma Corran being cast as Elizabeth Bennett. 178 00:11:02,054 --> 00:11:03,614 Speaker 2: It's divided, folks. 179 00:11:04,094 --> 00:11:07,694 Speaker 4: Yes, Emma is obviously like an insane talent. They are 180 00:11:07,734 --> 00:11:10,454 Speaker 4: so wonderful, But I also I think so many people 181 00:11:10,574 --> 00:11:14,454 Speaker 4: just see Emma as Princess Diana. Emma played Princess Diana 182 00:11:14,494 --> 00:11:17,894 Speaker 4: in The Crown and it was such an amazing performance, 183 00:11:18,014 --> 00:11:20,694 Speaker 4: like likewise with Josh O'Connor obviously, like they were together 184 00:11:20,974 --> 00:11:22,694 Speaker 4: in the Crown, and so it just made people really 185 00:11:22,734 --> 00:11:25,654 Speaker 4: feel like Emma is Princess Diana. So then to take 186 00:11:25,654 --> 00:11:28,294 Speaker 4: on such another iconic role rather than sort of the 187 00:11:28,334 --> 00:11:30,734 Speaker 4: other stuff Emma's been working on, like Nosferatu, where it's 188 00:11:30,734 --> 00:11:32,814 Speaker 4: like a different type of character, I think people just 189 00:11:32,894 --> 00:11:35,414 Speaker 4: like Princess Diana, like you can't be Elizabeth Bennett. So 190 00:11:35,454 --> 00:11:37,614 Speaker 4: there's been a bit of a reaction to that. But likewise, 191 00:11:37,614 --> 00:11:39,694 Speaker 4: there's been a little bit of a reaction to Jack Loudon. 192 00:11:40,014 --> 00:11:42,374 Speaker 4: He's a really brilliant Scottish actor. He's married to Sir 193 00:11:42,414 --> 00:11:45,094 Speaker 4: Sharonan My fave that he's like, got red hair. 194 00:11:45,014 --> 00:11:46,614 Speaker 5: Big beef. Is he going to diet? Are we going 195 00:11:46,654 --> 00:11:48,934 Speaker 5: to have a redheaded mister Darcy? Who could say, I 196 00:11:48,934 --> 00:11:49,214 Speaker 5: don't know. 197 00:11:49,254 --> 00:11:51,294 Speaker 2: I don't feel either kind of way about a redheaded 198 00:11:51,334 --> 00:11:53,974 Speaker 2: mister Darcy. But as we talk about Emma Corn and 199 00:11:54,454 --> 00:11:57,214 Speaker 2: all of their other roles, the one that comes to 200 00:11:57,254 --> 00:11:59,134 Speaker 2: mind for me and this is maybe saying more about 201 00:11:59,214 --> 00:12:02,574 Speaker 2: me than anything else. Is Cassandronova, the villainous twin of 202 00:12:02,694 --> 00:12:04,974 Speaker 2: Charles Xavier. That's all I think about when I look 203 00:12:05,014 --> 00:12:06,094 Speaker 2: at Emma Coran's face. 204 00:12:06,414 --> 00:12:09,374 Speaker 4: Emma has had such a like rogue and exciting action 205 00:12:09,694 --> 00:12:12,814 Speaker 4: history like Deadpool recently as well. So like when you 206 00:12:12,814 --> 00:12:15,814 Speaker 4: think period piece, you sometimes think of someone like where 207 00:12:15,854 --> 00:12:18,014 Speaker 4: you can really picture them in that landscape, and like 208 00:12:18,094 --> 00:12:19,974 Speaker 4: Emma fully has the face for it, but like the 209 00:12:20,014 --> 00:12:23,414 Speaker 4: acting ability and the previous acting history, You're like, what's 210 00:12:23,454 --> 00:12:25,134 Speaker 4: this going to look like? What kind of thing is 211 00:12:25,134 --> 00:12:26,974 Speaker 4: Emma going to bring to Elizabeth Bennett? 212 00:12:27,054 --> 00:12:29,094 Speaker 2: Well, this is interesting, right because there have been so 213 00:12:29,214 --> 00:12:32,134 Speaker 2: many versions of Pride and Prejudice. I think I've looked 214 00:12:32,374 --> 00:12:35,014 Speaker 2: and found about seventeen that I can think of, or 215 00:12:35,014 --> 00:12:38,254 Speaker 2: that I've been able to research. What makes this one different? 216 00:12:38,294 --> 00:12:40,334 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the way they're going about it is 217 00:12:40,374 --> 00:12:43,174 Speaker 2: quite different. It'll go to Netflix as a multi part 218 00:12:43,294 --> 00:12:45,454 Speaker 2: series as opposed to a straight feature length film. 219 00:12:45,734 --> 00:12:47,694 Speaker 4: I mean, Dolly Alderton kind of said it. She said, 220 00:12:47,734 --> 00:12:49,814 Speaker 4: once in a generation a group of people get to 221 00:12:49,814 --> 00:12:52,494 Speaker 4: retell this wonderful story, and I feel really lucky to. 222 00:12:52,414 --> 00:12:53,094 Speaker 5: Be a part of it. 223 00:12:53,494 --> 00:12:56,214 Speaker 4: And you know, Dolly is such a wrongcom head, and 224 00:12:56,254 --> 00:12:58,134 Speaker 4: she kind of says that, like Pride and Prejudice is 225 00:12:58,174 --> 00:13:01,254 Speaker 4: the blueprint for a romantic comedy, so she's fully aware 226 00:13:01,254 --> 00:13:03,294 Speaker 4: of the fact that she's doing something we've all done before, 227 00:13:03,294 --> 00:13:04,734 Speaker 4: So like, how do you make that different? 228 00:13:05,054 --> 00:13:07,054 Speaker 5: I think what gives this one? Like, I guess a 229 00:13:07,054 --> 00:13:07,734 Speaker 5: slight difference. 230 00:13:07,774 --> 00:13:10,054 Speaker 4: Is one of the most popular Pride and pre Judice 231 00:13:10,174 --> 00:13:13,054 Speaker 4: fan favorites of all time is the BBC Mini series. 232 00:13:13,374 --> 00:13:15,934 Speaker 4: Since then, we've had several movie versions. We had Pride 233 00:13:15,974 --> 00:13:18,614 Speaker 4: and Prejudice two thousand and five, we had Bride and Prejudice, 234 00:13:18,654 --> 00:13:21,574 Speaker 4: the Bollywood adaptation, and then we had Pride and Prejudice 235 00:13:21,574 --> 00:13:24,494 Speaker 4: and Zombies, which is actually a really great film. So 236 00:13:24,574 --> 00:13:26,454 Speaker 4: I think this kind of brings us back a little 237 00:13:26,454 --> 00:13:28,294 Speaker 4: bit more to that root of the mini series, which 238 00:13:28,294 --> 00:13:31,094 Speaker 4: so many Austin fans love because it lets you dive 239 00:13:31,134 --> 00:13:33,054 Speaker 4: into things more. In a movie, you've got maybe an 240 00:13:33,094 --> 00:13:34,894 Speaker 4: hour and a half, two hours at most, but the 241 00:13:34,894 --> 00:13:36,934 Speaker 4: mini series is going to be a six parter. We're 242 00:13:36,974 --> 00:13:39,014 Speaker 4: really going to get into the things that you don't 243 00:13:39,054 --> 00:13:40,534 Speaker 4: often get to see in an adaptation. 244 00:13:41,214 --> 00:13:43,574 Speaker 2: Let's change pace Tina and talk about Wuthering Heights. 245 00:13:43,614 --> 00:13:44,454 Speaker 5: Now I've got. 246 00:13:46,254 --> 00:13:48,014 Speaker 2: I knew that was going to be a reaction, which 247 00:13:48,014 --> 00:13:49,774 Speaker 2: is why I've asked you to come on the quickie. 248 00:13:49,854 --> 00:13:51,974 Speaker 2: We've seen a couple of the first images start to 249 00:13:52,014 --> 00:13:54,934 Speaker 2: trickle out as filming is underway. There are two Aussies 250 00:13:54,974 --> 00:13:57,694 Speaker 2: at the helm of this one. It's Emerald Fanelle's reworking 251 00:13:57,974 --> 00:14:01,974 Speaker 2: of the classic Jacoberlaudias Heathcliff, Margot Robbie as Catherine Earnshaw. 252 00:14:02,574 --> 00:14:05,614 Speaker 2: That first picture that we saw surface of Margot Robbie 253 00:14:05,654 --> 00:14:09,334 Speaker 2: in the wedding dress, it's looking very eighties. And I 254 00:14:09,534 --> 00:14:13,374 Speaker 2: I don't mean eighteen hundred eighties, I mean like nineteen eighties. 255 00:14:13,774 --> 00:14:17,214 Speaker 4: Yes, so like first of all, just their casting announcement 256 00:14:17,254 --> 00:14:19,654 Speaker 4: caused like so much of a stir because and I 257 00:14:20,094 --> 00:14:21,974 Speaker 4: got called ages, and I will say, I'm almost the 258 00:14:21,974 --> 00:14:23,814 Speaker 4: same age as Margot Robbie, so that can't be true. 259 00:14:24,094 --> 00:14:27,214 Speaker 4: Kathy is eighteen Weathering Heights, so to cast a thirty 260 00:14:27,214 --> 00:14:30,174 Speaker 4: four year old woman to play Kathy caused like bit 261 00:14:30,214 --> 00:14:33,574 Speaker 4: of a stir again. Jacob ELORDI a lot of Weathering 262 00:14:33,614 --> 00:14:36,574 Speaker 4: Heights adaptations, Heathcliff has been played by a white man, 263 00:14:36,694 --> 00:14:39,494 Speaker 4: but in the books, Heathcliff is described as dark skinned, 264 00:14:39,534 --> 00:14:41,774 Speaker 4: so people kind of hoped that with a modern adaptation 265 00:14:42,374 --> 00:14:45,574 Speaker 4: that we might be more respectful to the literature. So 266 00:14:45,734 --> 00:14:47,574 Speaker 4: the casting of both of them was initially like there 267 00:14:47,654 --> 00:14:50,214 Speaker 4: was a really big reaction. People weren't happy. Some people were, 268 00:14:50,214 --> 00:14:53,214 Speaker 4: of course, But then when the pictures dropped and Margot 269 00:14:53,254 --> 00:14:57,934 Speaker 4: Robbie is blonde wearing a white, enormous wedding dress with 270 00:14:57,974 --> 00:15:00,414 Speaker 4: this big veil, but she's still standing in the moors 271 00:15:00,454 --> 00:15:03,374 Speaker 4: and there's fog, it kind of felt like Weathering Heights 272 00:15:03,374 --> 00:15:05,454 Speaker 4: in the sense of the location, but the look and 273 00:15:05,454 --> 00:15:07,934 Speaker 4: feel felt really modern. So everyone sort of took, I 274 00:15:07,974 --> 00:15:10,494 Speaker 4: guess another look at it and said, well, maybe this 275 00:15:10,534 --> 00:15:12,854 Speaker 4: is a different type of adaptation from Emerald. Maybe it's 276 00:15:12,894 --> 00:15:15,814 Speaker 4: a modern retelling of the story. Maybe it's like just 277 00:15:15,934 --> 00:15:18,614 Speaker 4: cherry picking bits and pieces of the Weathering Heights tale 278 00:15:18,654 --> 00:15:22,054 Speaker 4: and setting it in I guess the eighties English mores 279 00:15:22,054 --> 00:15:23,774 Speaker 4: like who could say, we're all just confused at this 280 00:15:23,814 --> 00:15:25,094 Speaker 4: point about what that flood is. 281 00:15:25,374 --> 00:15:26,974 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like there's a lot at stakes when 282 00:15:27,094 --> 00:15:30,534 Speaker 2: people take a classic work and then rework it, and 283 00:15:30,574 --> 00:15:33,614 Speaker 2: sometimes that includes doing things like modernizing it Obviously, Wathering 284 00:15:33,694 --> 00:15:36,574 Speaker 2: Heights was first published in eighteen forty seven, Pride and 285 00:15:36,614 --> 00:15:40,014 Speaker 2: Prejudice in eighteen thirteen, even earlier than that. Do you 286 00:15:40,414 --> 00:15:43,854 Speaker 2: foresee these things helping them succeed or could this be 287 00:15:43,934 --> 00:15:44,534 Speaker 2: the downfall? 288 00:15:44,894 --> 00:15:47,614 Speaker 4: I think that modernizing can actually be the thing that 289 00:15:47,694 --> 00:15:52,134 Speaker 4: helps them succeed. Anyone but You, which came out two 290 00:15:52,214 --> 00:15:54,854 Speaker 4: years ago, that was a Shakespeare adaptation, and it kind 291 00:15:54,854 --> 00:15:57,294 Speaker 4: of reminded everyone of that era where in the two 292 00:15:57,294 --> 00:16:01,454 Speaker 4: thousands all of these movies were like Austin or Shakespeare adaptations. 293 00:16:01,934 --> 00:16:04,654 Speaker 4: So we obviously had Clueless, which was like Emma another 294 00:16:04,734 --> 00:16:05,334 Speaker 4: Jane Austin. 295 00:16:05,614 --> 00:16:07,734 Speaker 5: So modernizing stuff can make. 296 00:16:07,614 --> 00:16:09,054 Speaker 4: It really fun and fresh, and a lot of the 297 00:16:09,094 --> 00:16:10,974 Speaker 4: time a lot of the audience don't even know that 298 00:16:10,974 --> 00:16:13,654 Speaker 4: it's an adaptation. So you are taking these stories that 299 00:16:13,694 --> 00:16:17,134 Speaker 4: are really beautiful and really well written, amazing pieces of 300 00:16:17,174 --> 00:16:19,774 Speaker 4: literature and turning them into something new, and that can 301 00:16:19,854 --> 00:16:23,734 Speaker 4: really be so successful that I think when you do 302 00:16:23,894 --> 00:16:26,534 Speaker 4: call something like in those cases, they often change the names. 303 00:16:26,574 --> 00:16:28,574 Speaker 4: They change the names of the characters, or they change 304 00:16:28,574 --> 00:16:31,694 Speaker 4: the names of like the thing itself. Bridger Jones's Diary, 305 00:16:31,894 --> 00:16:34,334 Speaker 4: for example, is a Pride and prejudice adaptation. 306 00:16:34,534 --> 00:16:36,094 Speaker 5: He's Mark Darcy, not mister Darcy. 307 00:16:36,374 --> 00:16:38,374 Speaker 4: But I think in the case of these Wuthering Heights, 308 00:16:38,374 --> 00:16:40,454 Speaker 4: when you have someone like Emerald Fennel and you hear 309 00:16:40,494 --> 00:16:42,574 Speaker 4: that it's a Gothic adaptation, and then you see the 310 00:16:42,574 --> 00:16:45,174 Speaker 4: picture of what seems to be like an eighties wedding gown, 311 00:16:45,654 --> 00:16:47,974 Speaker 4: it might be to the detriment that it's not. 312 00:16:47,854 --> 00:16:50,734 Speaker 5: Really doing the modern thing fully. It's not committing fully 313 00:16:50,734 --> 00:16:51,094 Speaker 5: to the bit. 314 00:16:51,974 --> 00:16:53,974 Speaker 2: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with 315 00:16:54,094 --> 00:16:56,894 Speaker 2: us today. The quickie is produced by me Taylor Strano 316 00:16:56,974 --> 00:17:01,134 Speaker 2: and Clare Murphy, with audio production by Lou Hill.