WEBVTT - Taylor Swift, A Secret Note And A Problematic Man

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<v Speaker 1>So much.

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<v Speaker 3>that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome

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<v Speaker 3>to the Spill, your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm Laura

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<v Speaker 3>Brodnick and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm m Burnham And on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Today Taylor Swift, a problematic man and a secret note

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<v Speaker 3>what you're talking about. I practiced that in the mirror beforehand. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely did it, but it sounds like an old

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<v Speaker 3>school Nancy Drew novel.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I hope any kids you're setting this up.

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<v Speaker 3>And a little viral clip from Saturday and out Live

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<v Speaker 3>that has I guess's got a few influencers riled up,

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<v Speaker 3>all their fans riled up.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get into that, but first.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, I am officially calling it myself. Okay, Martin

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<v Speaker 1>Short and Meryl Street are dating. They were spotted having

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<v Speaker 1>dinner in Santa Monica, looking very cutey, very cozy, and

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<v Speaker 1>after dinner they drove home together. I mind of drove

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<v Speaker 1>home together, but they got in the same car. They

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<v Speaker 1>drove away in the same Meryl was driving like enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>himself in that passenger's seat. So this rumor has been

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<v Speaker 1>around for a while. We have briefly mentioned it on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast before. If you didn't know, Martin Shoan and

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<v Speaker 1>Meryl Streep do play lovers on screen right now in

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<v Speaker 1>the show Only Murders in the Building on Disney plaz

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite shows right now. They start alongside

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<v Speaker 1>Selena Gomez and Steve Martin. They were also seen being

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<v Speaker 1>very close to each other at this year's Golden Globes Awards.

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<v Speaker 3>You remember that they were like, yes, and that's what

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<v Speaker 3>everyone thought Selena Gomez and Taylor Swift were gossiping about

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<v Speaker 3>in those viral pictures that it wasn't Actually now we

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<v Speaker 3>think it wasn't Timothy Shallamy and Kylie Jenner.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the fact that those two were walking.

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<v Speaker 1>Up And then Martin Short's publassist denied those rumors. But

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<v Speaker 1>then at the season four premiere for Only Murders, they

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<v Speaker 1>were holding hands on the red carpet, and then so

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<v Speaker 1>after the dinner, cameras on their places so they had

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<v Speaker 1>their big dinner that everyone to photos. Steve Martin posted

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<v Speaker 1>a Glamour article to his Instagram feed that had like

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<v Speaker 1>a feature image of him. Martin children. Meryl Streep and

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<v Speaker 1>he like put a big like X emoji on his

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<v Speaker 1>face and everyone's like, did Steve Man just hard launch

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<v Speaker 1>their relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he did look part of me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you were a denier from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I might still be a denier.

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<v Speaker 3>So obviously, Martin Shawt's wife passed away many years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Meryl Streep kept her divorce for yeah, kept

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<v Speaker 3>her divorce under wraps for such a long time, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's only come out recently that she's a single lady.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>They might be hooking out, but I think as they.

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<v Speaker 2>Are, it's not cute just because they're older.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus, I think it's cute. Well, you're finding love in

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<v Speaker 1>their seventies. That's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>That is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Meryl Streep could find love at any

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<v Speaker 3>age though that bit. But I actually think they're having

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<v Speaker 3>quite a bit of fun with the publicity.

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<v Speaker 1>And a few kids around it all the fun. We're

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<v Speaker 1>having fun too.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they've both been in the industry such a

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<v Speaker 3>long time, like they know how to got it, and

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<v Speaker 3>they both not usually people that are in like the

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<v Speaker 3>paparazzi New cycle or like the tabloidy news cycle, like

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<v Speaker 3>Meryl Streep has avoided at her whole career, and so

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<v Speaker 3>has Martin Short. They just like they only pop up

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<v Speaker 3>to promote their movies. Everyone loves them, and they go

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<v Speaker 3>back to their private lives. I do think they're kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like working the crowd a little bit because they

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<v Speaker 3>know what they're doing. When they were like whispring together

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<v Speaker 3>in the Golden Globes like audience, when the cameras are

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<v Speaker 3>on them, because you can see that massive camera, it

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<v Speaker 3>has to be set up to be on you.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't just appear in the order.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very smart. I think they're teaching Amelia Demaldeberg and

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<v Speaker 1>Ander Garfita what to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then they were holding hands on the red

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<v Speaker 3>carpet at the Premier Yere like yes, they're friends, but

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<v Speaker 3>they knew.

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<v Speaker 2>What they were doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And these photos were taken at one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>celebrity like paparazzi hot spots in LA. It's like they

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<v Speaker 3>went to a secret little spot.

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<v Speaker 1>And they maybe they have been going to secret little spots.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm sure they have, but I'm just saying this

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<v Speaker 3>particular night, like you don't go to that restaurant and

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<v Speaker 3>that strip of restaurants where paparazzi camp out because they

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<v Speaker 3>know that celebs go there. You don't go there unless

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<v Speaker 3>you want your photo taken. And the fact that they

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<v Speaker 3>drove themselves away so they had to get into the

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<v Speaker 3>car the valet came over. Those photos I've looked at

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<v Speaker 3>so much.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't endorse paparazzi photos here, but they are smiling

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<v Speaker 1>like they're gleaming in the camera exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And also, again, you go to that spot because you

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<v Speaker 3>know you're going to get photographed. They both have the

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<v Speaker 3>money and the means. It's just like a little hobby

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<v Speaker 3>for them, exactly in March shorts face. Actually, both of

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<v Speaker 3>them look absolutely like they find the situation so funny

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<v Speaker 3>that they're being paparazzied, and I just think that they're

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<v Speaker 3>just leaning in.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I still think they're dating officially. Saturday Night

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<v Speaker 1>Live recently did a skit that was a bit different

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<v Speaker 1>to their usual sticks, so they decided to play into

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, their younger audience generations, because I have a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that anyone above the age of forty would have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea what was happening in this entire skit.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't think okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying it. So the skit it was called TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>That was like the official title of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, what could they mean by that?

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<v Speaker 1>What could they mean by that? And it started off

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<v Speaker 1>with like an anonymous texter who receives a message saying

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<v Speaker 1>where are you and they reply that they're on their

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<v Speaker 1>way before getting inhaled into like a doom scroll of TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>And the entire skit is just like a TikTok feed

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<v Speaker 1>that shows the SNL cast members acting out parodies of

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<v Speaker 1>like big influences that made it like massive on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>So for example, Chloe Fyneman plays Alex Cooper, host of

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<v Speaker 1>Call Her Daddy, who does an absolutely brilliant job like

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<v Speaker 1>I generally thought it was her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what is up, daddy?

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<v Speaker 3>Gang?

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<v Speaker 2>It is your founding father.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's topic is when to put a finger in Our

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<v Speaker 1>guest today is Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Majorcis bowen

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<v Speaker 1>Yang plays Harry Daniels, who's this influenzer who finds like

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities out in the wild and starts singing to.

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<v Speaker 3>That yes sometimes with great results. Sometimes the celebrities are horrified,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's all about his videos because I guess secondhand

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<v Speaker 3>embarrassment awkward like, but also that when celebrities reject him,

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<v Speaker 3>that's all part of the contents. I think he's actually

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<v Speaker 3>leaning into that when they look horrified.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one where I saw him and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was Trevanoah. Have you seen this one? Yea in

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<v Speaker 1>a restaurant in TREVANAA gets actually angry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because he's in a restaurant to have dinner. And

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<v Speaker 3>also it looks like this guy's just coming and singing,

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<v Speaker 3>but he has people around him filming like it's a

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a whole thing, And I think he's fear to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get filmed for a TikTok prank in public. They just

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<v Speaker 3>do it to random people. I just think that's the

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<v Speaker 3>most annoying thing a human being can do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Harry Daniels is at that level of

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<v Speaker 1>fame now where he feels like they should know what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening by now. Yeah, and when they don't, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he gets a bit like embarrassed. So it was like

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<v Speaker 1>reversed on him.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Well, celebrities do know now, like Katy Perry saw

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<v Speaker 3>him coming to her across like a crowd of room

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<v Speaker 3>once and she's like, Okay, I'm ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Ariana Grana was like, no, we're not doing this again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing this yeah, because she knows.

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<v Speaker 2>What I to you making my way. He's on town

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<v Speaker 2>walk in.

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<v Speaker 3>Past vases Pert that was singing, well yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Airplane, no please.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff on me. So Bowen Yang plays him. This skit

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<v Speaker 1>went completely viral, especially on TikTok and across SNL socials.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the comments had one of the most accurate

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<v Speaker 1>skits I've seen in years. This was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best things I've seen on SNL in a long time. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>SNL finally did something funny as hell.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason they forget the move dang skits sketch just

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<v Speaker 3>recent weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why I found them choosing the skit so

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<v Speaker 1>interesting was because it wasn't aimed at their usual demographic,

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<v Speaker 1>which I did some research and I found that their

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<v Speaker 1>demographic is between thirty to forty years. Last year, Newsweek

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<v Speaker 1>did a poll on SNL viewership and showed that the

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<v Speaker 1>rising generations like gen Z were showing less and less

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<v Speaker 1>interest in SNL like watching it live, whereas their most

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<v Speaker 1>engaged viewerships are from those who remember SNL from the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties who are kind of grown up with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when it was like appointment TV to get home

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<v Speaker 3>and watch it on Saturday night, so he didn't miss it,

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<v Speaker 3>But now most people would just consume it like they

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<v Speaker 3>do with every other TV show through like clips on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I'm kind of interested in like their gameplay here, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think we're still going to see them honing

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<v Speaker 1>in on this younger demographic like range of content, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>probably excluding some of their original engaged viewerships, or are

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<v Speaker 1>they still going to be sticking to like the hardcore

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<v Speaker 1>celebrities that we know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, like the hardcore celebrities and like things like

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<v Speaker 3>politics will always be like their bread and butter. But

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<v Speaker 3>I also think that with the influences they picked, they're

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<v Speaker 3>ones that have crossed over from just like online fame

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe fame that's hooked to one age group, because

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<v Speaker 3>you've got parodies of Narrosmith and Alex Cooper in there,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think their names that like have transcended just

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<v Speaker 3>one kind of age bracket, which I thought was interesting

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<v Speaker 3>that Chloe Fineman, who played Narrosmith or like a version

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<v Speaker 3>of her the you know, the Internet's favorite child wife, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and Alex Cooper, the host of Call Her Daddy. She

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<v Speaker 3>was like practicing her Alex Cooper impersonations on her TikTok,

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<v Speaker 3>so like creating extra content for their but also try

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<v Speaker 3>that fine line of like making fun of her because

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<v Speaker 3>she was making a joke about her interviewing Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 3>and talking about her vagina being on fire, and afterwards

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<v Speaker 3>she was like, that didn't happen. I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get into her headspace. And I think the Narrowsmith one

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<v Speaker 3>was actually the funniest.

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<v Speaker 2>Today.

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<v Speaker 3>My husband asked for beef tacos, and I didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to let him down, so I slaughtered our cow and

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<v Speaker 3>picked the corn myself.

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<v Speaker 1>It started off immediately funny because she puts on like

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<v Speaker 1>the Narrowsmith voice, which is very like soft spoken, like

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<v Speaker 1>almost like a wisp. Yeah, my husband wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>so I slaughtered.

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<v Speaker 2>A cow, so I went out and slaughtered a cow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like and she literally get a home mood and

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<v Speaker 1>I would be like, oh, that's so nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was so calming and nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So we think that they're like I guess playing in

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<v Speaker 1>that in between stage of like making sure that the

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<v Speaker 1>influencers are known well enough to work for both audiences.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you were troubling?

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<v Speaker 1>You want down?

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<v Speaker 2>So Taylor Swift might I've heard of her?

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<v Speaker 3>Is on the final leg of her errors tour.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see her new reputation.

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<v Speaker 3>Costs I did? And her new enchant to dress Gold.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny. It just feels like what do we

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<v Speaker 3>do in our lives? This tour is over, like I

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<v Speaker 3>can't remember a time before it. Did you see that

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<v Speaker 3>viral photo of a woman who has been pregnant twice

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<v Speaker 3>at the Eras tour in the time it's been running,

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<v Speaker 3>Like in this amount of time, she would have delivered

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<v Speaker 3>two human beings the earth in the time that woman

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<v Speaker 3>has been touring.

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<v Speaker 2>What are they doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I need to I need to start checking things off my.

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<v Speaker 3>Life to start achieving something. Ach I mean, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>you got to go, but no, you didn't need any anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>The headlines this.

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<v Speaker 3>Morning, So every morning wake up to headlines. You're like

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<v Speaker 3>a new outfit and new blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nice. Florence Welch, is there great?

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<v Speaker 3>This morning? I was really interested to see David Portnoy's

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<v Speaker 3>name up in all the Taylor Swift headlines.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does his name sound familiar?

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<v Speaker 3>So he is the founder of Barstool Sports, which is

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<v Speaker 3>like a big call her daddy. Yes, that's probably where

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<v Speaker 3>most people I think, I think that's what most women. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>well he's been bigger, like in the US in particular

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time. He owns a media company and

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<v Speaker 3>he's also got a huge social following himself through like tiktoks,

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<v Speaker 3>and he does a podcast. I think his podcast is

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<v Speaker 3>mostly just about what it's like to be Dave Portnoy,

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<v Speaker 3>which so.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like a boy boss influencing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a boy boss and that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Heeo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you probably across his name from if you

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<v Speaker 3>cast your mind back to twenty twenty two when the

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<v Speaker 3>Call Her Daddy podcast, which is a huge podcast at

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<v Speaker 3>the time and it was hosted by two friends, Alex

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<v Speaker 3>Cooper and Sophia Franklin, had a very.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just not dead. The friendship is dead.

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<v Speaker 3>The friendship is dead and buried, had a very public

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<v Speaker 3>breakup and it became mainstream international news.

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<v Speaker 1>And the negotiations I remember with Barstool Sports and.

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<v Speaker 3>Called Her Daddy, and Dave port Noy because he was

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<v Speaker 3>the one who brought them into the company, hired them,

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<v Speaker 3>and then their podcast, Caller Daddy, became so wildly popular,

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<v Speaker 3>and then there was this whole public breakup thing where

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<v Speaker 3>Alex and Sophia had a fight behind the scenes. They

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<v Speaker 3>also just stopped recording the podcast they were having a

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<v Speaker 3>fight with Dave. He went into their podcast stream one

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<v Speaker 3>day and recorded his thoughts because they couldn't get access

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<v Speaker 3>to it, and then it all kind of ended. This

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<v Speaker 3>is obviously an epic story that could be a six

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<v Speaker 3>part podcast. I'm just breaking it down for a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>We should do that.

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<v Speaker 3>And it all ended with Sophia walking away and starting

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<v Speaker 3>her own podcast, which I believe is called Sophia with

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<v Speaker 3>an F that she still does now, and Alex Cooper

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<v Speaker 3>retaining the Call Her Daddy IP and name and continuing

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<v Speaker 3>to work at Barstools Sports before moving over to a

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<v Speaker 3>huge deal at Spotify. And she and Dave Portnoy have

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<v Speaker 3>had like a lot of back and forth over the years,

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<v Speaker 3>but recently he's been a guest on Call Her Daddy

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like in a good spot, even though he

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<v Speaker 3>publicly got angry for not being invited to Alex Cooper's wedding.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, swings a roundabouts, so an interesting man

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<v Speaker 3>to be all tied up in.

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<v Speaker 2>The tailor stift head, So what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>So what happened is Dave port Moy, who I should

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<v Speaker 3>say has always called himself a long term swifty, was

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<v Speaker 3>at the Miami Era's tour show last night and Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>Swift had her brother Austin deliver a handwritten note to

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<v Speaker 3>Dave who was sitting in the VIP tend next to

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<v Speaker 3>Andrea Swift, who is Taylor's mother, and in this beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>envelope with a wax seal with Taylor's initials, like she

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<v Speaker 3>has like medieval style stationary, because of course she does not,

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<v Speaker 3>said Dave, I'm so happy to have you at the

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<v Speaker 3>show tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Exclamation mark.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to say thank you for always being so supportive,

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<v Speaker 3>so loyal, and for having my back when a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people did it. I hope you have a blast tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, love Taylor. And also it's just say that Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>Sift has personalized stationary that underneath it says songwriter slash

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<v Speaker 3>feline enthusiast, which I feel like is a point that

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<v Speaker 3>no one has picked up on today, but it is

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<v Speaker 3>quite important. Like that's embossed on her stationary.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so weird of her to do. No, it's weird, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So like out of all the people, him just for

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<v Speaker 1>saying he.

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<v Speaker 3>Liked her, well, he has had a really long history

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<v Speaker 3>with her, so recently he had defended her. Even though

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<v Speaker 3>Dave Portnoy is a very outspoken Donald Trump supporter, which

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<v Speaker 3>not even a red flag scarless little circle. So he

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<v Speaker 3>is a big Donald Trump supporter. But after Taylor's siff

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<v Speaker 3>came out and endorsed Kamala Harris, he defended her against

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<v Speaker 3>people and was like, you know, she's allowed to speak

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<v Speaker 3>on who she wants, She's allowed to support who she wants.

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<v Speaker 2>To leave her alone.

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<v Speaker 3>When Britney Mahomes, who is a friend of Taylor's from

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<v Speaker 3>the whole Travis Kelsey's football situation, did the campaign with

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<v Speaker 3>Skims with Kim kardashi and he came out and blasted

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<v Speaker 3>Brittany for not being loyal to Taylor, and like, where

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<v Speaker 3>does your allegiance lie because so.

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<v Speaker 1>Much that's so weird from man, I know he's a

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<v Speaker 1>man in his late forties.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, it gets it gets live Brittany. So when

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing with Kim Kardashian and Kanye West secretly

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<v Speaker 3>recording Taylor Swift over the song lyrics that came out

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<v Speaker 3>when Kanye West said that he was going to say

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<v Speaker 3>Taylor and I might still have sex in a song lyric,

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<v Speaker 3>but when the song came out, he said, I made

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<v Speaker 3>that bitch famous, and Taylor released the same at Shane's

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<v Speaker 3>who was really upset about it, and then Kanye West

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<v Speaker 3>and his team said no, she approved it, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Kim released that audio where she had secretly recorded Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>where it looked like she was agreeing to it on

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<v Speaker 3>the phone, but Taylor Swift later said that the.

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<v Speaker 1>Beach line was the one that she didn't agree to,

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<v Speaker 1>that the call.

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<v Speaker 3>Had been edited to look like something else. But at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, remember how people were flooding Taylor's social accounts

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<v Speaker 3>with the Snake and Taylor.

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<v Speaker 1>Gave us the best album Yeah my God, and Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>Swift's over party was trending in stuff and obviously, like

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<v Speaker 1>people never completely turned against her, but there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hatred for her at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Dave Portnoy made merch supporting Taylor Swift, which I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like there could be a copyright thing there, but she

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<v Speaker 3>must have been. He made merch that was calling out

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<v Speaker 3>the singer's enemies. It said all You're ever going to

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<v Speaker 3>be is mean and a liar and pathetic. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a t shirt, Oh my God, and then there was

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<v Speaker 3>a lyric. I know, I don't believe she wasn't upset

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<v Speaker 3>about that. Maybe she was happy with it because he

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<v Speaker 3>was selling them. In her defense, well.

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<v Speaker 1>She's probably like, oh call her, Daddy's not there anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>so we need some money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he was.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he also sold a T shirt that read

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<v Speaker 3>like Kim Kardashian wear Scooter Braun and all of Taylor's

0:17:03.224 --> 0:17:06.024
<v Speaker 3>ex boyfriends like put them on like one shirt that

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<v Speaker 3>you could buy.

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<v Speaker 1>So he like genuinely loves to Swift.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what I mean. He's been like publicly supporting

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<v Speaker 3>her and trying to get on her side for years.

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<v Speaker 1>He's acting like a fan girl.

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<v Speaker 2>No I know.

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<v Speaker 3>So when the Brittany Mahome stuff came out also at

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<v Speaker 3>this day, she hadn't really done anything. All she'd done

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<v Speaker 3>was her and her husband had posed for a Skims

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<v Speaker 3>campaign because that's what Kim Kardashin does. She gets very

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<v Speaker 3>timely people in these campaigns. And he put up a

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok and he's like, I'm on an airplane. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to make too much noise, but I hope everyone

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<v Speaker 3>can hear me for this emergency press conference. But when

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<v Speaker 3>Taylor Swift news strikes, I gotta be there to answer

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<v Speaker 3>it for the Swifties. And then there was a big backlash.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe how much not about this. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a backlash that he wasn't a real Swift in he

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<v Speaker 3>was just trying to trade on her fame over the years,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's what he's been pushing against. And then when

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Cooper had him on an episode of Call Her Daddy,

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<v Speaker 3>because she's a big Taylor Swift fan as well. She

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to do a quiz with him of like

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<v Speaker 3>playing Taylor Swift's lyrics and asking him which song they're from,

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<v Speaker 3>and he couldn't name any of them, and he kept saying, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a fan, I just don't know like every lyric

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<v Speaker 3>of every song. And there was a huge backlash of

0:18:07.824 --> 0:18:10.904
<v Speaker 3>people being like, Dave's been trading off her name for years.

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<v Speaker 3>He's always the first one to jump on the news

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<v Speaker 3>cycle and he's not even a real Swifty. So obviously

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<v Speaker 3>he was burnt deep by that and upset. So yesterday

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<v Speaker 3>he was showing off this letter and he was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys never believe me that I was a real Swifty.

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<v Speaker 3>But look a handwritten note from this woman, hand delivered

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<v Speaker 3>by her brother, and apparently he and her brother hugged

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<v Speaker 3>as the letter was delivered.

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<v Speaker 1>He would have loved that, hug. This is a wild story.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird, right yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because also he doesn't necessarily need to be a Swiftie

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<v Speaker 1>to be that level of famous that he is.

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<v Speaker 3>Right well, I guess one of the things is, like

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<v Speaker 3>he's really built his company obviously, having like bast Or

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<v Speaker 3>Sports is meant to be kind of like this rogue

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<v Speaker 3>male focused, you know, making content that's meant to be

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<v Speaker 3>a bit like a bit controversial, like, and he's built

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<v Speaker 3>a whole empire off that. And the interesting thing is

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<v Speaker 3>he would probably I guess, get more hits if he

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<v Speaker 3>was against Taylor Swift. Or maybe he just knows exactly

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<v Speaker 3>where the line is to pick his battles and he's

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<v Speaker 3>decided to throw his hat in the ring with her,

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<v Speaker 3>or he's just a super fan, or he just loves

0:19:08.744 --> 0:19:10.744
<v Speaker 3>Taylor Swift music because he has been like for a

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<v Speaker 3>good like millly ten years I think, spending most of

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<v Speaker 3>his time promoting her. So that part is not like

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<v Speaker 3>that interesting, the fact that he's obsessed with her, like

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<v Speaker 3>it's interesting, But the fact that she sent him a

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<v Speaker 3>handwritten letter, knowing the kind of content he does, that

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<v Speaker 3>he would do a TikTok about it.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll do a whole podcast about it. He posted all

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<v Speaker 2>over his socials.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird that she wants to be associated with him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird that.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of all the people, like the celebrities who have

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<v Speaker 3>spoken up about her in the past and who come

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<v Speaker 3>to her shows, like Nicki Glacier the comedian, She's gone

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<v Speaker 3>to something like twenty.

0:19:39.144 --> 0:19:41.304
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Swift show. She travels all over the world to

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<v Speaker 2>go to them.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's people like that who have always been

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<v Speaker 3>really outspoken defense of her. Like I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 3>she's sending them notes, it's an interesting thing. I just

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<v Speaker 3>find it interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just more demure about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I feel like you would show.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when you know, not everyone showed Megan's jam

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<v Speaker 1>when they got sent and there was like fifty of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But well, it kind of reminds me of when Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>Swift and Katy Perry were sending messages when they were,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, repairing their fews, and Katie Perry sent Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>and Olive Branch and Taylor's showed like.

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<v Speaker 1>Do with this, it was a lovely gesture.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's more interesting that she would just align herself

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<v Speaker 3>so publicly. Well, here's a bit about Dave porte Noy,

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<v Speaker 3>and I should say that all of these are allegations

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<v Speaker 3>that have not been improved, and he has denied them all.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm just saying this is his public history that

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<v Speaker 3>is out there. So back in twenty twenty one, a

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<v Speaker 3>number of sexual assault allegations were put against him. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of them came from this big feature that was

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<v Speaker 3>printed in Business Insider, and they all call these really

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<v Speaker 3>distressing sexual assault encounters that women had alleged they had

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<v Speaker 3>had with him. So one of the allegations came from

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<v Speaker 3>a woman who was twenty years old at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and she said that in the summer of twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>she alleged that Dave Portnoy filmed her having oral sex

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<v Speaker 3>with him and then choked her without her permission, and

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<v Speaker 3>she said in a statement, it was so rough, I

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<v Speaker 3>felt like I was being raped. And then she was

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<v Speaker 3>saying that she said a message to a friend later

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<v Speaker 3>which I think was caught up in these allegations, saying

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<v Speaker 3>I was literally screaming out in pain. And then in

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<v Speaker 3>the past another video was made public where it looked

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<v Speaker 3>like he was choking a young woman, but then she

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<v Speaker 3>came out and said that particular moment was consensual. She

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<v Speaker 3>said that she wasn't classifying it as sexual assault, but

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<v Speaker 3>she felt preyed upon by him. And then another woman

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<v Speaker 3>came out and alleged that Dave Portnoy choked her and

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<v Speaker 3>filmed her without permission. And all women spoke to this

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<v Speaker 3>publication under the condition that their names would be kept

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<v Speaker 3>out of the press because they were too scared of

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<v Speaker 3>retaliations what they were saying of Dave Portnoy and his followers,

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<v Speaker 3>because they said that he has a reputation for tormenting

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<v Speaker 3>anyone and like publicly taking them down for anyone who

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<v Speaker 3>crosses him. After that happened, Dave Portnoy immediately went on

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<v Speaker 3>social media and said that everything with these women had

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<v Speaker 3>been consensual. He then went on to show screenshots and

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<v Speaker 3>DMS from a woman saying that a similar thing had happened,

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<v Speaker 3>but she had no regret, and it went on and

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<v Speaker 3>on and on, and obviously he has always come out

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<v Speaker 3>and said that wasn't true, but these allegations sort of

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<v Speaker 3>like have become part of his story and then pretty horrific.

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<v Speaker 3>They're pretty horrific. Allegations, and Business Insider was like, you know,

0:22:17.504 --> 0:22:19.384
<v Speaker 3>we've spoken to these women, we fact check this. These

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<v Speaker 3>are the stories, the allegations they're putting out. He's also

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<v Speaker 3>over the years like made jokes about rape and then

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<v Speaker 3>say like, I don't condone rape, but he'll like make

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<v Speaker 3>jokes about it. He's called other female sports reporters sluts

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, sea words and stuff. When he's doing

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<v Speaker 3>his comedy. There's you know, tapes of him choking another

0:22:36.704 --> 0:22:39.064
<v Speaker 3>college age girl that came out, although that woman came out,

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<v Speaker 3>so it sounds like he doesn't like consensual well except

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<v Speaker 3>for Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he loves Taylor Swift.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like he has a very very problematic history,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, and there's a lot of gray area

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<v Speaker 3>around that around things that have happened. And even if

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<v Speaker 3>you sort of step aside the allegations because they're not

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<v Speaker 3>pro proven thing, like they're just the jokes he makes

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<v Speaker 3>on his own show that you know, he owns the company.

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<v Speaker 3>He can say whatever he wants on his podcast, on

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<v Speaker 3>his shows, on his social media, but a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>it just so doesn't align with anything that Taylor Swift

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<v Speaker 3>puts out into the world. And for a woman that

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<v Speaker 3>is so careful of like curating her image and so

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<v Speaker 3>aware of what she's putting out in the world, and

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<v Speaker 3>so aware of who she aligns herself with and what

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<v Speaker 3>her fans think of her. I just think that was

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<v Speaker 3>a really strange move from her to say I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to like really align myself publicly with this man when

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<v Speaker 3>he has that reputation. But maybe at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>she's just also sick of having to like tiptoe around

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<v Speaker 3>and be so aware because on the other hand, like

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<v Speaker 3>she is quite untouchable at the moment, Like this is

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<v Speaker 3>a new story today, but it's not going to like

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<v Speaker 3>affect her long term and Dave Porten, who's going to

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<v Speaker 3>live off this forever.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's worked out well for both of them.

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