1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:14,144 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 3: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,744 --> 00:00:26,584 Speaker 3: that this podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome 5 00:00:26,624 --> 00:00:29,384 Speaker 3: to the Spill, your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm Laura 6 00:00:29,384 --> 00:00:30,144 Speaker 3: Brodnick and. 7 00:00:30,104 --> 00:00:32,264 Speaker 1: I'm m Burnham And on the show. 8 00:00:32,064 --> 00:00:38,584 Speaker 3: Today Taylor Swift, a problematic man and a secret note 9 00:00:38,664 --> 00:00:40,784 Speaker 3: what you're talking about. I practiced that in the mirror beforehand. No, 10 00:00:40,864 --> 00:00:42,904 Speaker 3: I definitely did it, but it sounds like an old 11 00:00:42,904 --> 00:00:44,184 Speaker 3: school Nancy Drew novel. 12 00:00:44,304 --> 00:00:46,464 Speaker 1: But like I hope any kids you're setting this up. 13 00:00:46,744 --> 00:00:49,024 Speaker 3: And a little viral clip from Saturday and out Live 14 00:00:49,144 --> 00:00:51,784 Speaker 3: that has I guess's got a few influencers riled up, 15 00:00:51,864 --> 00:00:52,864 Speaker 3: all their fans riled up. 16 00:00:52,904 --> 00:00:54,824 Speaker 2: We're going to get into that, but first. 17 00:00:54,744 --> 00:01:00,104 Speaker 1: But first, I am officially calling it myself. Okay, Martin 18 00:01:00,184 --> 00:01:05,144 Speaker 1: Short and Meryl Street are dating. They were spotted having 19 00:01:05,144 --> 00:01:10,144 Speaker 1: dinner in Santa Monica, looking very cutey, very cozy, and 20 00:01:10,944 --> 00:01:15,544 Speaker 1: after dinner they drove home together. I mind of drove 21 00:01:15,584 --> 00:01:17,424 Speaker 1: home together, but they got in the same car. They 22 00:01:17,504 --> 00:01:21,664 Speaker 1: drove away in the same Meryl was driving like enjoying 23 00:01:21,704 --> 00:01:25,104 Speaker 1: himself in that passenger's seat. So this rumor has been 24 00:01:25,344 --> 00:01:27,584 Speaker 1: around for a while. We have briefly mentioned it on 25 00:01:27,624 --> 00:01:30,424 Speaker 1: the podcast before. If you didn't know, Martin Shoan and 26 00:01:30,424 --> 00:01:33,784 Speaker 1: Meryl Streep do play lovers on screen right now in 27 00:01:33,904 --> 00:01:36,144 Speaker 1: the show Only Murders in the Building on Disney plaz 28 00:01:36,144 --> 00:01:38,504 Speaker 1: one of my favorite shows right now. They start alongside 29 00:01:38,504 --> 00:01:42,144 Speaker 1: Selena Gomez and Steve Martin. They were also seen being 30 00:01:42,264 --> 00:01:45,424 Speaker 1: very close to each other at this year's Golden Globes Awards. 31 00:01:45,464 --> 00:01:47,544 Speaker 3: You remember that they were like, yes, and that's what 32 00:01:47,624 --> 00:01:50,504 Speaker 3: everyone thought Selena Gomez and Taylor Swift were gossiping about 33 00:01:50,544 --> 00:01:52,944 Speaker 3: in those viral pictures that it wasn't Actually now we 34 00:01:52,944 --> 00:01:55,264 Speaker 3: think it wasn't Timothy Shallamy and Kylie Jenner. 35 00:01:55,304 --> 00:01:56,984 Speaker 2: It was the fact that those two were walking. 36 00:01:56,784 --> 00:02:01,464 Speaker 1: Up And then Martin Short's publassist denied those rumors. But 37 00:02:01,664 --> 00:02:04,624 Speaker 1: then at the season four premiere for Only Murders, they 38 00:02:04,624 --> 00:02:08,984 Speaker 1: were holding hands on the red carpet, and then so 39 00:02:09,144 --> 00:02:12,024 Speaker 1: after the dinner, cameras on their places so they had 40 00:02:12,064 --> 00:02:15,264 Speaker 1: their big dinner that everyone to photos. Steve Martin posted 41 00:02:15,304 --> 00:02:17,944 Speaker 1: a Glamour article to his Instagram feed that had like 42 00:02:17,944 --> 00:02:20,984 Speaker 1: a feature image of him. Martin children. Meryl Streep and 43 00:02:21,024 --> 00:02:23,304 Speaker 1: he like put a big like X emoji on his 44 00:02:23,424 --> 00:02:26,704 Speaker 1: face and everyone's like, did Steve Man just hard launch 45 00:02:26,784 --> 00:02:27,544 Speaker 1: their relationship. 46 00:02:27,624 --> 00:02:29,464 Speaker 2: I think he did look part of me. 47 00:02:29,664 --> 00:02:31,544 Speaker 1: I mean, you were a denier from the beginning. 48 00:02:31,664 --> 00:02:33,624 Speaker 2: Well, I might still be a denier. 49 00:02:33,704 --> 00:02:36,384 Speaker 3: So obviously, Martin Shawt's wife passed away many years ago, 50 00:02:36,584 --> 00:02:40,344 Speaker 3: and then Meryl Streep kept her divorce for yeah, kept 51 00:02:40,344 --> 00:02:42,544 Speaker 3: her divorce under wraps for such a long time, so 52 00:02:42,584 --> 00:02:44,904 Speaker 3: it's only come out recently that she's a single lady. 53 00:02:45,384 --> 00:02:46,424 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't know. 54 00:02:46,504 --> 00:02:48,784 Speaker 3: They might be hooking out, but I think as they. 55 00:02:50,304 --> 00:02:52,424 Speaker 2: Are, it's not cute just because they're older. 56 00:02:52,624 --> 00:02:55,424 Speaker 1: Jesus, I think it's cute. Well, you're finding love in 57 00:02:55,464 --> 00:02:56,784 Speaker 1: their seventies. That's beautiful. 58 00:02:56,864 --> 00:02:57,424 Speaker 2: That is beautiful. 59 00:02:57,424 --> 00:02:59,024 Speaker 3: I feel like Meryl Streep could find love at any 60 00:02:59,064 --> 00:03:03,144 Speaker 3: age though that bit. But I actually think they're having 61 00:03:03,224 --> 00:03:05,664 Speaker 3: quite a bit of fun with the publicity. 62 00:03:05,104 --> 00:03:07,104 Speaker 1: And a few kids around it all the fun. We're 63 00:03:07,144 --> 00:03:07,744 Speaker 1: having fun too. 64 00:03:07,864 --> 00:03:09,504 Speaker 3: I mean, they've both been in the industry such a 65 00:03:09,504 --> 00:03:11,544 Speaker 3: long time, like they know how to got it, and 66 00:03:11,584 --> 00:03:13,944 Speaker 3: they both not usually people that are in like the 67 00:03:13,944 --> 00:03:17,424 Speaker 3: paparazzi New cycle or like the tabloidy news cycle, like 68 00:03:17,464 --> 00:03:20,144 Speaker 3: Meryl Streep has avoided at her whole career, and so 69 00:03:20,264 --> 00:03:22,384 Speaker 3: has Martin Short. They just like they only pop up 70 00:03:22,384 --> 00:03:24,704 Speaker 3: to promote their movies. Everyone loves them, and they go 71 00:03:24,744 --> 00:03:27,304 Speaker 3: back to their private lives. I do think they're kind 72 00:03:27,344 --> 00:03:30,384 Speaker 3: of like working the crowd a little bit because they 73 00:03:30,464 --> 00:03:33,264 Speaker 3: know what they're doing. When they were like whispring together 74 00:03:33,424 --> 00:03:35,904 Speaker 3: in the Golden Globes like audience, when the cameras are 75 00:03:35,904 --> 00:03:38,064 Speaker 3: on them, because you can see that massive camera, it 76 00:03:38,104 --> 00:03:39,584 Speaker 3: has to be set up to be on you. 77 00:03:39,584 --> 00:03:40,864 Speaker 2: It doesn't just appear in the order. 78 00:03:40,864 --> 00:03:43,624 Speaker 1: They're very smart. I think they're teaching Amelia Demaldeberg and 79 00:03:43,624 --> 00:03:44,944 Speaker 1: Ander Garfita what to do. 80 00:03:45,064 --> 00:03:47,224 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they were holding hands on the red 81 00:03:47,224 --> 00:03:49,144 Speaker 3: carpet at the Premier Yere like yes, they're friends, but 82 00:03:49,184 --> 00:03:49,664 Speaker 3: they knew. 83 00:03:49,504 --> 00:03:50,064 Speaker 2: What they were doing. 84 00:03:50,144 --> 00:03:52,464 Speaker 3: And these photos were taken at one of the biggest 85 00:03:52,464 --> 00:03:55,224 Speaker 3: celebrity like paparazzi hot spots in LA. It's like they 86 00:03:55,224 --> 00:03:56,544 Speaker 3: went to a secret little spot. 87 00:03:57,224 --> 00:03:59,784 Speaker 1: And they maybe they have been going to secret little spots. 88 00:03:59,904 --> 00:04:01,784 Speaker 3: No, I'm sure they have, but I'm just saying this 89 00:04:01,824 --> 00:04:05,024 Speaker 3: particular night, like you don't go to that restaurant and 90 00:04:05,024 --> 00:04:08,384 Speaker 3: that strip of restaurants where paparazzi camp out because they 91 00:04:08,384 --> 00:04:10,824 Speaker 3: know that celebs go there. You don't go there unless 92 00:04:10,864 --> 00:04:13,024 Speaker 3: you want your photo taken. And the fact that they 93 00:04:13,104 --> 00:04:15,224 Speaker 3: drove themselves away so they had to get into the 94 00:04:15,224 --> 00:04:17,464 Speaker 3: car the valet came over. Those photos I've looked at 95 00:04:17,504 --> 00:04:17,944 Speaker 3: so much. 96 00:04:18,064 --> 00:04:21,144 Speaker 1: We don't endorse paparazzi photos here, but they are smiling 97 00:04:21,264 --> 00:04:24,624 Speaker 1: like they're gleaming in the camera exactly. 98 00:04:24,664 --> 00:04:26,464 Speaker 3: And also, again, you go to that spot because you 99 00:04:26,504 --> 00:04:28,384 Speaker 3: know you're going to get photographed. They both have the 100 00:04:28,424 --> 00:04:30,104 Speaker 3: money and the means. It's just like a little hobby 101 00:04:30,104 --> 00:04:32,984 Speaker 3: for them, exactly in March shorts face. Actually, both of 102 00:04:33,024 --> 00:04:36,424 Speaker 3: them look absolutely like they find the situation so funny 103 00:04:36,824 --> 00:04:39,304 Speaker 3: that they're being paparazzied, and I just think that they're 104 00:04:39,344 --> 00:04:40,024 Speaker 3: just leaning in. 105 00:04:40,424 --> 00:04:45,864 Speaker 1: Oh well, I still think they're dating officially. Saturday Night 106 00:04:45,904 --> 00:04:49,704 Speaker 1: Live recently did a skit that was a bit different 107 00:04:49,824 --> 00:04:53,504 Speaker 1: to their usual sticks, so they decided to play into 108 00:04:53,704 --> 00:04:57,224 Speaker 1: I guess, their younger audience generations, because I have a 109 00:04:57,264 --> 00:04:59,584 Speaker 1: feeling that anyone above the age of forty would have 110 00:04:59,624 --> 00:05:01,944 Speaker 1: no idea what was happening in this entire skit. 111 00:05:02,104 --> 00:05:04,664 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think okay, okay. 112 00:05:04,544 --> 00:05:08,024 Speaker 1: I'm saying it. So the skit it was called TikTok. 113 00:05:08,104 --> 00:05:09,584 Speaker 1: That was like the official title of it. 114 00:05:09,744 --> 00:05:10,904 Speaker 2: Oh, what could they mean by that? 115 00:05:11,144 --> 00:05:13,184 Speaker 1: What could they mean by that? And it started off 116 00:05:13,224 --> 00:05:15,944 Speaker 1: with like an anonymous texter who receives a message saying 117 00:05:15,984 --> 00:05:18,464 Speaker 1: where are you and they reply that they're on their 118 00:05:18,544 --> 00:05:22,304 Speaker 1: way before getting inhaled into like a doom scroll of TikTok, 119 00:05:22,384 --> 00:05:24,744 Speaker 1: And the entire skit is just like a TikTok feed 120 00:05:25,064 --> 00:05:29,544 Speaker 1: that shows the SNL cast members acting out parodies of 121 00:05:29,624 --> 00:05:33,064 Speaker 1: like big influences that made it like massive on TikTok. 122 00:05:33,224 --> 00:05:37,464 Speaker 1: So for example, Chloe Fyneman plays Alex Cooper, host of 123 00:05:37,664 --> 00:05:40,624 Speaker 1: Call Her Daddy, who does an absolutely brilliant job like 124 00:05:40,664 --> 00:05:41,744 Speaker 1: I generally thought it was her. 125 00:05:41,984 --> 00:05:43,304 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is up, daddy? 126 00:05:43,344 --> 00:05:43,584 Speaker 3: Gang? 127 00:05:43,664 --> 00:05:45,024 Speaker 2: It is your founding father. 128 00:05:45,384 --> 00:05:48,344 Speaker 1: Today's topic is when to put a finger in Our 129 00:05:48,384 --> 00:05:52,904 Speaker 1: guest today is Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Majorcis bowen 130 00:05:52,984 --> 00:05:56,864 Speaker 1: Yang plays Harry Daniels, who's this influenzer who finds like 131 00:05:56,904 --> 00:05:59,464 Speaker 1: celebrities out in the wild and starts singing to. 132 00:05:59,464 --> 00:06:03,104 Speaker 3: That yes sometimes with great results. Sometimes the celebrities are horrified, 133 00:06:03,264 --> 00:06:05,304 Speaker 3: but it's all about his videos because I guess secondhand 134 00:06:05,344 --> 00:06:08,824 Speaker 3: embarrassment awkward like, but also that when celebrities reject him, 135 00:06:08,864 --> 00:06:10,904 Speaker 3: that's all part of the contents. I think he's actually 136 00:06:10,944 --> 00:06:12,624 Speaker 3: leaning into that when they look horrified. 137 00:06:12,704 --> 00:06:14,744 Speaker 1: There was one where I saw him and I think 138 00:06:14,824 --> 00:06:17,784 Speaker 1: it was Trevanoah. Have you seen this one? Yea in 139 00:06:17,824 --> 00:06:20,664 Speaker 1: a restaurant in TREVANAA gets actually angry. 140 00:06:20,464 --> 00:06:22,344 Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's in a restaurant to have dinner. And 141 00:06:22,424 --> 00:06:24,544 Speaker 3: also it looks like this guy's just coming and singing, 142 00:06:24,544 --> 00:06:26,344 Speaker 3: but he has people around him filming like it's a 143 00:06:26,344 --> 00:06:26,704 Speaker 3: whole thing. 144 00:06:26,864 --> 00:06:28,624 Speaker 1: It's a whole thing, And I think he's fear to. 145 00:06:28,544 --> 00:06:32,744 Speaker 3: Get filmed for a TikTok prank in public. They just 146 00:06:32,784 --> 00:06:34,584 Speaker 3: do it to random people. I just think that's the 147 00:06:34,584 --> 00:06:36,144 Speaker 3: most annoying thing a human being can do. 148 00:06:36,344 --> 00:06:38,304 Speaker 1: And I think Harry Daniels is at that level of 149 00:06:38,344 --> 00:06:41,504 Speaker 1: fame now where he feels like they should know what's 150 00:06:41,544 --> 00:06:44,464 Speaker 1: happening by now. Yeah, and when they don't, I think 151 00:06:44,504 --> 00:06:46,984 Speaker 1: he gets a bit like embarrassed. So it was like 152 00:06:47,064 --> 00:06:47,864 Speaker 1: reversed on him. 153 00:06:47,904 --> 00:06:50,304 Speaker 3: Now, Well, celebrities do know now, like Katy Perry saw 154 00:06:50,344 --> 00:06:52,224 Speaker 3: him coming to her across like a crowd of room 155 00:06:52,224 --> 00:06:53,744 Speaker 3: once and she's like, Okay, I'm ready to go. 156 00:06:54,744 --> 00:06:56,824 Speaker 1: Ariana Grana was like, no, we're not doing this again. 157 00:06:56,904 --> 00:06:58,664 Speaker 1: I'm not doing this yeah, because she knows. 158 00:06:58,464 --> 00:07:02,104 Speaker 2: What I to you making my way. He's on town 159 00:07:02,264 --> 00:07:02,744 Speaker 2: walk in. 160 00:07:02,784 --> 00:07:09,624 Speaker 3: Past vases Pert that was singing, well yeah. 161 00:07:09,504 --> 00:07:12,024 Speaker 2: Airplane, no please. 162 00:07:11,824 --> 00:07:14,904 Speaker 1: Stuff on me. So Bowen Yang plays him. This skit 163 00:07:15,144 --> 00:07:19,544 Speaker 1: went completely viral, especially on TikTok and across SNL socials. 164 00:07:19,824 --> 00:07:22,304 Speaker 1: Some of the comments had one of the most accurate 165 00:07:22,344 --> 00:07:24,424 Speaker 1: skits I've seen in years. This was one of the 166 00:07:24,504 --> 00:07:26,864 Speaker 1: best things I've seen on SNL in a long time. Wow, 167 00:07:27,064 --> 00:07:30,624 Speaker 1: SNL finally did something funny as hell. 168 00:07:32,064 --> 00:07:34,984 Speaker 3: The reason they forget the move dang skits sketch just 169 00:07:35,264 --> 00:07:36,784 Speaker 3: recent weeks. 170 00:07:37,904 --> 00:07:40,904 Speaker 1: The reason why I found them choosing the skit so 171 00:07:40,944 --> 00:07:44,584 Speaker 1: interesting was because it wasn't aimed at their usual demographic, 172 00:07:44,744 --> 00:07:47,104 Speaker 1: which I did some research and I found that their 173 00:07:47,144 --> 00:07:50,864 Speaker 1: demographic is between thirty to forty years. Last year, Newsweek 174 00:07:50,904 --> 00:07:53,264 Speaker 1: did a poll on SNL viewership and showed that the 175 00:07:53,344 --> 00:07:56,664 Speaker 1: rising generations like gen Z were showing less and less 176 00:07:56,704 --> 00:08:00,184 Speaker 1: interest in SNL like watching it live, whereas their most 177 00:08:00,224 --> 00:08:03,824 Speaker 1: engaged viewerships are from those who remember SNL from the 178 00:08:03,904 --> 00:08:05,544 Speaker 1: nineties who are kind of grown up with it. 179 00:08:05,664 --> 00:08:07,704 Speaker 3: Yeah, when it was like appointment TV to get home 180 00:08:07,704 --> 00:08:09,664 Speaker 3: and watch it on Saturday night, so he didn't miss it, 181 00:08:09,704 --> 00:08:11,544 Speaker 3: But now most people would just consume it like they 182 00:08:11,584 --> 00:08:13,984 Speaker 3: do with every other TV show through like clips on TikTok. 183 00:08:14,104 --> 00:08:17,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm kind of interested in like their gameplay here, Like, 184 00:08:17,744 --> 00:08:20,144 Speaker 1: do you think we're still going to see them honing 185 00:08:20,184 --> 00:08:24,584 Speaker 1: in on this younger demographic like range of content, maybe 186 00:08:24,664 --> 00:08:29,264 Speaker 1: probably excluding some of their original engaged viewerships, or are 187 00:08:29,264 --> 00:08:31,024 Speaker 1: they still going to be sticking to like the hardcore 188 00:08:31,064 --> 00:08:32,024 Speaker 1: celebrities that we know. 189 00:08:32,624 --> 00:08:34,904 Speaker 3: I think, like the hardcore celebrities and like things like 190 00:08:34,944 --> 00:08:36,984 Speaker 3: politics will always be like their bread and butter. But 191 00:08:37,024 --> 00:08:39,784 Speaker 3: I also think that with the influences they picked, they're 192 00:08:39,864 --> 00:08:42,744 Speaker 3: ones that have crossed over from just like online fame 193 00:08:42,984 --> 00:08:46,064 Speaker 3: or maybe fame that's hooked to one age group, because 194 00:08:46,104 --> 00:08:48,824 Speaker 3: you've got parodies of Narrosmith and Alex Cooper in there, 195 00:08:49,024 --> 00:08:51,944 Speaker 3: and I think their names that like have transcended just 196 00:08:52,024 --> 00:08:54,904 Speaker 3: one kind of age bracket, which I thought was interesting 197 00:08:54,944 --> 00:08:57,544 Speaker 3: that Chloe Fineman, who played Narrosmith or like a version 198 00:08:57,544 --> 00:09:00,224 Speaker 3: of her the you know, the Internet's favorite child wife, Yeah, 199 00:09:00,264 --> 00:09:02,824 Speaker 3: and Alex Cooper, the host of Call Her Daddy. She 200 00:09:02,944 --> 00:09:06,704 Speaker 3: was like practicing her Alex Cooper impersonations on her TikTok, 201 00:09:06,784 --> 00:09:10,224 Speaker 3: so like creating extra content for their but also try 202 00:09:10,504 --> 00:09:12,864 Speaker 3: that fine line of like making fun of her because 203 00:09:12,864 --> 00:09:16,424 Speaker 3: she was making a joke about her interviewing Kamala Harris 204 00:09:16,544 --> 00:09:19,424 Speaker 3: and talking about her vagina being on fire, and afterwards 205 00:09:19,424 --> 00:09:20,944 Speaker 3: she was like, that didn't happen. I'm just trying to 206 00:09:20,944 --> 00:09:24,064 Speaker 3: get into her headspace. And I think the Narrowsmith one 207 00:09:24,144 --> 00:09:25,144 Speaker 3: was actually the funniest. 208 00:09:25,504 --> 00:09:25,864 Speaker 2: Today. 209 00:09:25,944 --> 00:09:28,784 Speaker 3: My husband asked for beef tacos, and I didn't want 210 00:09:28,784 --> 00:09:31,224 Speaker 3: to let him down, so I slaughtered our cow and 211 00:09:31,264 --> 00:09:32,584 Speaker 3: picked the corn myself. 212 00:09:32,944 --> 00:09:35,664 Speaker 1: It started off immediately funny because she puts on like 213 00:09:35,704 --> 00:09:39,264 Speaker 1: the Narrowsmith voice, which is very like soft spoken, like 214 00:09:39,344 --> 00:09:43,584 Speaker 1: almost like a wisp. Yeah, my husband wanted to be 215 00:09:43,824 --> 00:09:45,144 Speaker 1: so I slaughtered. 216 00:09:44,624 --> 00:09:48,384 Speaker 2: A cow, so I went out and slaughtered a cow. 217 00:09:49,824 --> 00:09:51,904 Speaker 1: It's like and she literally get a home mood and 218 00:09:51,944 --> 00:09:53,184 Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, that's so nice. 219 00:09:53,224 --> 00:09:55,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was so calming and nice. 220 00:09:55,184 --> 00:09:57,304 Speaker 1: So we think that they're like I guess playing in 221 00:09:57,304 --> 00:10:00,904 Speaker 1: that in between stage of like making sure that the 222 00:10:00,944 --> 00:10:04,784 Speaker 1: influencers are known well enough to work for both audiences. 223 00:10:05,064 --> 00:10:05,264 Speaker 2: Yeah. 224 00:10:05,264 --> 00:10:08,904 Speaker 3: Absolutely, spillers, we have some exciting news. 225 00:10:09,104 --> 00:10:11,824 Speaker 1: We do have some exciting news because next month we 226 00:10:11,904 --> 00:10:15,424 Speaker 1: are kicking off the Month of Move. 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The offer is valid until the end 237 00:10:44,504 --> 00:10:46,384 Speaker 1: of November and we will put a link with all 238 00:10:46,464 --> 00:10:47,944 Speaker 1: the details in our show notes. 239 00:10:48,064 --> 00:10:48,584 Speaker 2: Have fun. 240 00:10:51,024 --> 00:10:52,944 Speaker 3: Then you were troubling? 241 00:10:53,184 --> 00:10:54,224 Speaker 1: You want down? 242 00:10:58,184 --> 00:11:00,104 Speaker 2: So Taylor Swift might I've heard of her? 243 00:11:00,224 --> 00:11:02,344 Speaker 3: Is on the final leg of her errors tour. 244 00:11:02,704 --> 00:11:05,264 Speaker 1: Did you see her new reputation. 245 00:11:04,864 --> 00:11:07,504 Speaker 3: Costs I did? And her new enchant to dress Gold. 246 00:11:07,864 --> 00:11:09,664 Speaker 3: It's so funny. It just feels like what do we 247 00:11:09,664 --> 00:11:11,464 Speaker 3: do in our lives? This tour is over, like I 248 00:11:11,464 --> 00:11:13,824 Speaker 3: can't remember a time before it. Did you see that 249 00:11:13,904 --> 00:11:16,424 Speaker 3: viral photo of a woman who has been pregnant twice 250 00:11:16,504 --> 00:11:18,424 Speaker 3: at the Eras tour in the time it's been running, 251 00:11:18,664 --> 00:11:20,544 Speaker 3: Like in this amount of time, she would have delivered 252 00:11:20,544 --> 00:11:22,744 Speaker 3: two human beings the earth in the time that woman 253 00:11:22,744 --> 00:11:23,464 Speaker 3: has been touring. 254 00:11:23,664 --> 00:11:24,424 Speaker 2: What are they doing? 255 00:11:25,104 --> 00:11:27,184 Speaker 1: I need to I need to start checking things off my. 256 00:11:27,144 --> 00:11:32,584 Speaker 3: Life to start achieving something. Ach I mean, I mean 257 00:11:33,104 --> 00:11:36,344 Speaker 3: you got to go, but no, you didn't need any anyway. 258 00:11:36,344 --> 00:11:37,104 Speaker 2: The headlines this. 259 00:11:37,024 --> 00:11:38,944 Speaker 3: Morning, So every morning wake up to headlines. You're like 260 00:11:39,304 --> 00:11:40,824 Speaker 3: a new outfit and new blah blah blah. 261 00:11:40,864 --> 00:11:42,904 Speaker 2: That's nice. Florence Welch, is there great? 262 00:11:43,264 --> 00:11:47,024 Speaker 3: This morning? I was really interested to see David Portnoy's 263 00:11:47,424 --> 00:11:49,624 Speaker 3: name up in all the Taylor Swift headlines. 264 00:11:49,664 --> 00:11:51,064 Speaker 1: Why does his name sound familiar? 265 00:11:51,184 --> 00:11:53,864 Speaker 3: So he is the founder of Barstool Sports, which is 266 00:11:53,864 --> 00:11:56,584 Speaker 3: like a big call her daddy. Yes, that's probably where 267 00:11:56,584 --> 00:11:59,424 Speaker 3: most people I think, I think that's what most women. Yeah, 268 00:11:59,464 --> 00:12:01,824 Speaker 3: well he's been bigger, like in the US in particular 269 00:12:01,864 --> 00:12:04,264 Speaker 3: for a long time. He owns a media company and 270 00:12:04,344 --> 00:12:08,584 Speaker 3: he's also got a huge social following himself through like tiktoks, 271 00:12:08,584 --> 00:12:10,344 Speaker 3: and he does a podcast. I think his podcast is 272 00:12:10,464 --> 00:12:12,664 Speaker 3: mostly just about what it's like to be Dave Portnoy, 273 00:12:12,704 --> 00:12:13,184 Speaker 3: which so. 274 00:12:13,144 --> 00:12:14,824 Speaker 1: He's like a boy boss influencing. 275 00:12:14,944 --> 00:12:16,784 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a boy boss and that's for sure. 276 00:12:16,984 --> 00:12:17,424 Speaker 1: Heeo. 277 00:12:17,744 --> 00:12:19,664 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you probably across his name from if you 278 00:12:19,704 --> 00:12:22,264 Speaker 3: cast your mind back to twenty twenty two when the 279 00:12:22,424 --> 00:12:24,744 Speaker 3: Call Her Daddy podcast, which is a huge podcast at 280 00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:27,024 Speaker 3: the time and it was hosted by two friends, Alex 281 00:12:27,104 --> 00:12:29,664 Speaker 3: Cooper and Sophia Franklin, had a very. 282 00:12:30,024 --> 00:12:31,664 Speaker 1: He's just not dead. The friendship is dead. 283 00:12:31,744 --> 00:12:34,664 Speaker 3: The friendship is dead and buried, had a very public 284 00:12:34,704 --> 00:12:37,424 Speaker 3: breakup and it became mainstream international news. 285 00:12:37,384 --> 00:12:40,704 Speaker 1: And the negotiations I remember with Barstool Sports and. 286 00:12:40,624 --> 00:12:42,864 Speaker 3: Called Her Daddy, and Dave port Noy because he was 287 00:12:42,904 --> 00:12:45,344 Speaker 3: the one who brought them into the company, hired them, 288 00:12:45,464 --> 00:12:48,344 Speaker 3: and then their podcast, Caller Daddy, became so wildly popular, 289 00:12:48,744 --> 00:12:51,304 Speaker 3: and then there was this whole public breakup thing where 290 00:12:51,384 --> 00:12:53,504 Speaker 3: Alex and Sophia had a fight behind the scenes. They 291 00:12:53,504 --> 00:12:56,024 Speaker 3: also just stopped recording the podcast they were having a 292 00:12:56,064 --> 00:12:58,824 Speaker 3: fight with Dave. He went into their podcast stream one 293 00:12:58,864 --> 00:13:01,344 Speaker 3: day and recorded his thoughts because they couldn't get access 294 00:13:01,384 --> 00:13:03,264 Speaker 3: to it, and then it all kind of ended. This 295 00:13:03,304 --> 00:13:05,344 Speaker 3: is obviously an epic story that could be a six 296 00:13:05,384 --> 00:13:07,744 Speaker 3: part podcast. I'm just breaking it down for a few minutes. 297 00:13:07,784 --> 00:13:08,384 Speaker 1: We should do that. 298 00:13:08,424 --> 00:13:11,544 Speaker 3: And it all ended with Sophia walking away and starting 299 00:13:11,584 --> 00:13:13,864 Speaker 3: her own podcast, which I believe is called Sophia with 300 00:13:13,864 --> 00:13:16,984 Speaker 3: an F that she still does now, and Alex Cooper 301 00:13:17,104 --> 00:13:20,824 Speaker 3: retaining the Call Her Daddy IP and name and continuing 302 00:13:20,864 --> 00:13:23,504 Speaker 3: to work at Barstools Sports before moving over to a 303 00:13:23,584 --> 00:13:26,624 Speaker 3: huge deal at Spotify. And she and Dave Portnoy have 304 00:13:26,744 --> 00:13:28,744 Speaker 3: had like a lot of back and forth over the years, 305 00:13:28,784 --> 00:13:31,104 Speaker 3: but recently he's been a guest on Call Her Daddy 306 00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:32,704 Speaker 3: and they're like in a good spot, even though he 307 00:13:32,784 --> 00:13:35,904 Speaker 3: publicly got angry for not being invited to Alex Cooper's wedding. 308 00:13:35,984 --> 00:13:39,224 Speaker 3: But you know, swings a roundabouts, so an interesting man 309 00:13:39,304 --> 00:13:40,904 Speaker 3: to be all tied up in. 310 00:13:40,824 --> 00:13:42,424 Speaker 2: The tailor stift head, So what's going on? 311 00:13:42,464 --> 00:13:44,864 Speaker 3: So what happened is Dave port Moy, who I should 312 00:13:44,864 --> 00:13:48,304 Speaker 3: say has always called himself a long term swifty, was 313 00:13:48,344 --> 00:13:53,544 Speaker 3: at the Miami Era's tour show last night and Taylor 314 00:13:53,624 --> 00:13:57,264 Speaker 3: Swift had her brother Austin deliver a handwritten note to 315 00:13:57,384 --> 00:14:00,024 Speaker 3: Dave who was sitting in the VIP tend next to 316 00:14:00,064 --> 00:14:03,304 Speaker 3: Andrea Swift, who is Taylor's mother, and in this beautiful 317 00:14:03,384 --> 00:14:06,424 Speaker 3: envelope with a wax seal with Taylor's initials, like she 318 00:14:06,544 --> 00:14:10,384 Speaker 3: has like medieval style stationary, because of course she does not, 319 00:14:10,664 --> 00:14:13,184 Speaker 3: said Dave, I'm so happy to have you at the 320 00:14:13,224 --> 00:14:13,744 Speaker 3: show tonight. 321 00:14:13,864 --> 00:14:14,704 Speaker 2: Exclamation mark. 322 00:14:14,984 --> 00:14:17,424 Speaker 3: I wanted to say thank you for always being so supportive, 323 00:14:17,584 --> 00:14:19,424 Speaker 3: so loyal, and for having my back when a lot 324 00:14:19,464 --> 00:14:21,944 Speaker 3: of people did it. I hope you have a blast tonight. 325 00:14:22,384 --> 00:14:22,824 Speaker 2: Is that it? 326 00:14:23,344 --> 00:14:25,704 Speaker 3: Yeah, love Taylor. And also it's just say that Taylor 327 00:14:25,744 --> 00:14:29,424 Speaker 3: Sift has personalized stationary that underneath it says songwriter slash 328 00:14:29,464 --> 00:14:31,984 Speaker 3: feline enthusiast, which I feel like is a point that 329 00:14:31,984 --> 00:14:33,384 Speaker 3: no one has picked up on today, but it is 330 00:14:33,464 --> 00:14:36,424 Speaker 3: quite important. Like that's embossed on her stationary. 331 00:14:36,624 --> 00:14:39,824 Speaker 1: That's so weird of her to do. No, it's weird, okay, 332 00:14:39,904 --> 00:14:43,224 Speaker 1: So like out of all the people, him just for 333 00:14:43,264 --> 00:14:43,784 Speaker 1: saying he. 334 00:14:43,824 --> 00:14:46,864 Speaker 3: Liked her, well, he has had a really long history 335 00:14:46,904 --> 00:14:49,904 Speaker 3: with her, so recently he had defended her. Even though 336 00:14:49,984 --> 00:14:53,704 Speaker 3: Dave Portnoy is a very outspoken Donald Trump supporter, which 337 00:14:54,344 --> 00:14:58,984 Speaker 3: not even a red flag scarless little circle. So he 338 00:14:59,264 --> 00:15:01,944 Speaker 3: is a big Donald Trump supporter. But after Taylor's siff 339 00:15:01,984 --> 00:15:04,784 Speaker 3: came out and endorsed Kamala Harris, he defended her against 340 00:15:04,824 --> 00:15:07,104 Speaker 3: people and was like, you know, she's allowed to speak 341 00:15:07,144 --> 00:15:09,224 Speaker 3: on who she wants, She's allowed to support who she wants. 342 00:15:09,224 --> 00:15:09,984 Speaker 2: To leave her alone. 343 00:15:10,384 --> 00:15:13,064 Speaker 3: When Britney Mahomes, who is a friend of Taylor's from 344 00:15:13,184 --> 00:15:16,624 Speaker 3: the whole Travis Kelsey's football situation, did the campaign with 345 00:15:16,704 --> 00:15:19,184 Speaker 3: Skims with Kim kardashi and he came out and blasted 346 00:15:19,224 --> 00:15:22,504 Speaker 3: Brittany for not being loyal to Taylor, and like, where 347 00:15:22,544 --> 00:15:24,544 Speaker 3: does your allegiance lie because so. 348 00:15:24,624 --> 00:15:27,944 Speaker 1: Much that's so weird from man, I know he's a 349 00:15:27,944 --> 00:15:28,984 Speaker 1: man in his late forties. 350 00:15:29,384 --> 00:15:33,864 Speaker 3: No, no, it gets it gets live Brittany. So when 351 00:15:33,944 --> 00:15:37,544 Speaker 3: the whole thing with Kim Kardashian and Kanye West secretly 352 00:15:37,624 --> 00:15:41,464 Speaker 3: recording Taylor Swift over the song lyrics that came out 353 00:15:41,584 --> 00:15:44,384 Speaker 3: when Kanye West said that he was going to say 354 00:15:44,424 --> 00:15:46,744 Speaker 3: Taylor and I might still have sex in a song lyric, 355 00:15:46,824 --> 00:15:48,944 Speaker 3: but when the song came out, he said, I made 356 00:15:48,984 --> 00:15:51,944 Speaker 3: that bitch famous, and Taylor released the same at Shane's 357 00:15:51,944 --> 00:15:54,904 Speaker 3: who was really upset about it, and then Kanye West 358 00:15:54,904 --> 00:15:57,264 Speaker 3: and his team said no, she approved it, and then 359 00:15:57,384 --> 00:16:01,104 Speaker 3: Kim released that audio where she had secretly recorded Taylor 360 00:16:01,384 --> 00:16:03,504 Speaker 3: where it looked like she was agreeing to it on 361 00:16:03,544 --> 00:16:07,264 Speaker 3: the phone, but Taylor Swift later said that the. 362 00:16:07,184 --> 00:16:08,984 Speaker 1: Beach line was the one that she didn't agree to, 363 00:16:09,064 --> 00:16:09,704 Speaker 1: that the call. 364 00:16:09,544 --> 00:16:11,904 Speaker 3: Had been edited to look like something else. But at 365 00:16:11,944 --> 00:16:15,384 Speaker 3: the time, remember how people were flooding Taylor's social accounts 366 00:16:15,424 --> 00:16:17,344 Speaker 3: with the Snake and Taylor. 367 00:16:17,344 --> 00:16:20,304 Speaker 1: Gave us the best album Yeah my God, and Taylor 368 00:16:20,304 --> 00:16:23,024 Speaker 1: Swift's over party was trending in stuff and obviously, like 369 00:16:23,064 --> 00:16:25,704 Speaker 1: people never completely turned against her, but there was a 370 00:16:25,704 --> 00:16:28,184 Speaker 1: lot of hatred for her at the time. 371 00:16:28,784 --> 00:16:32,784 Speaker 3: Dave Portnoy made merch supporting Taylor Swift, which I feel 372 00:16:32,784 --> 00:16:34,384 Speaker 3: like there could be a copyright thing there, but she 373 00:16:34,464 --> 00:16:37,184 Speaker 3: must have been. He made merch that was calling out 374 00:16:37,184 --> 00:16:39,704 Speaker 3: the singer's enemies. It said all You're ever going to 375 00:16:39,784 --> 00:16:41,904 Speaker 3: be is mean and a liar and pathetic. It was 376 00:16:41,944 --> 00:16:44,304 Speaker 3: a t shirt, Oh my God, and then there was 377 00:16:44,304 --> 00:16:48,464 Speaker 3: a lyric. I know, I don't believe she wasn't upset 378 00:16:48,464 --> 00:16:50,064 Speaker 3: about that. Maybe she was happy with it because he 379 00:16:50,144 --> 00:16:52,304 Speaker 3: was selling them. In her defense, well. 380 00:16:52,144 --> 00:16:54,384 Speaker 1: She's probably like, oh call her, Daddy's not there anymore, 381 00:16:54,424 --> 00:16:55,504 Speaker 1: so we need some money. 382 00:16:55,584 --> 00:16:56,344 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was. 383 00:16:57,264 --> 00:17:00,184 Speaker 3: And then he also sold a T shirt that read 384 00:17:00,264 --> 00:17:03,224 Speaker 3: like Kim Kardashian wear Scooter Braun and all of Taylor's 385 00:17:03,224 --> 00:17:06,024 Speaker 3: ex boyfriends like put them on like one shirt that 386 00:17:06,104 --> 00:17:06,704 Speaker 3: you could buy. 387 00:17:08,704 --> 00:17:10,944 Speaker 1: So he like genuinely loves to Swift. 388 00:17:11,064 --> 00:17:13,224 Speaker 3: This is what I mean. He's been like publicly supporting 389 00:17:13,224 --> 00:17:14,984 Speaker 3: her and trying to get on her side for years. 390 00:17:15,064 --> 00:17:17,104 Speaker 1: He's acting like a fan girl. 391 00:17:16,944 --> 00:17:17,304 Speaker 2: No I know. 392 00:17:17,384 --> 00:17:19,584 Speaker 3: So when the Brittany Mahome stuff came out also at 393 00:17:19,624 --> 00:17:21,344 Speaker 3: this day, she hadn't really done anything. All she'd done 394 00:17:21,464 --> 00:17:24,184 Speaker 3: was her and her husband had posed for a Skims 395 00:17:24,224 --> 00:17:26,424 Speaker 3: campaign because that's what Kim Kardashin does. She gets very 396 00:17:26,464 --> 00:17:28,904 Speaker 3: timely people in these campaigns. And he put up a 397 00:17:28,984 --> 00:17:31,184 Speaker 3: TikTok and he's like, I'm on an airplane. I don't 398 00:17:31,184 --> 00:17:33,024 Speaker 3: want to make too much noise, but I hope everyone 399 00:17:33,064 --> 00:17:35,344 Speaker 3: can hear me for this emergency press conference. But when 400 00:17:35,344 --> 00:17:37,704 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift news strikes, I gotta be there to answer 401 00:17:37,704 --> 00:17:41,944 Speaker 3: it for the Swifties. And then there was a big backlash. 402 00:17:41,984 --> 00:17:43,504 Speaker 3: I can't believe how much not about this. It was 403 00:17:43,904 --> 00:17:45,904 Speaker 3: a backlash that he wasn't a real Swift in he 404 00:17:45,944 --> 00:17:48,504 Speaker 3: was just trying to trade on her fame over the years, 405 00:17:48,544 --> 00:17:51,064 Speaker 3: and that's what he's been pushing against. And then when 406 00:17:51,104 --> 00:17:53,504 Speaker 3: Alex Cooper had him on an episode of Call Her Daddy, 407 00:17:53,504 --> 00:17:55,864 Speaker 3: because she's a big Taylor Swift fan as well. She 408 00:17:55,984 --> 00:17:57,744 Speaker 3: was trying to do a quiz with him of like 409 00:17:57,784 --> 00:18:00,704 Speaker 3: playing Taylor Swift's lyrics and asking him which song they're from, 410 00:18:00,744 --> 00:18:03,424 Speaker 3: and he couldn't name any of them, and he kept saying, no, 411 00:18:03,464 --> 00:18:05,464 Speaker 3: I'm a fan, I just don't know like every lyric 412 00:18:05,544 --> 00:18:07,704 Speaker 3: of every song. And there was a huge backlash of 413 00:18:07,824 --> 00:18:10,904 Speaker 3: people being like, Dave's been trading off her name for years. 414 00:18:10,944 --> 00:18:12,784 Speaker 3: He's always the first one to jump on the news 415 00:18:12,784 --> 00:18:15,384 Speaker 3: cycle and he's not even a real Swifty. So obviously 416 00:18:15,424 --> 00:18:18,344 Speaker 3: he was burnt deep by that and upset. So yesterday 417 00:18:18,344 --> 00:18:19,944 Speaker 3: he was showing off this letter and he was like, 418 00:18:19,984 --> 00:18:22,104 Speaker 3: you guys never believe me that I was a real Swifty. 419 00:18:22,224 --> 00:18:25,104 Speaker 3: But look a handwritten note from this woman, hand delivered 420 00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:27,864 Speaker 3: by her brother, and apparently he and her brother hugged 421 00:18:27,904 --> 00:18:29,224 Speaker 3: as the letter was delivered. 422 00:18:29,264 --> 00:18:32,544 Speaker 1: He would have loved that, hug. This is a wild story. 423 00:18:32,824 --> 00:18:34,144 Speaker 2: It's weird, right yeah. 424 00:18:34,184 --> 00:18:38,824 Speaker 1: Because also he doesn't necessarily need to be a Swiftie 425 00:18:39,024 --> 00:18:40,744 Speaker 1: to be that level of famous that he is. 426 00:18:40,864 --> 00:18:42,664 Speaker 3: Right well, I guess one of the things is, like 427 00:18:42,704 --> 00:18:45,304 Speaker 3: he's really built his company obviously, having like bast Or 428 00:18:45,344 --> 00:18:47,224 Speaker 3: Sports is meant to be kind of like this rogue 429 00:18:47,224 --> 00:18:50,784 Speaker 3: male focused, you know, making content that's meant to be 430 00:18:50,984 --> 00:18:53,144 Speaker 3: a bit like a bit controversial, like, and he's built 431 00:18:53,184 --> 00:18:55,944 Speaker 3: a whole empire off that. And the interesting thing is 432 00:18:55,984 --> 00:18:58,984 Speaker 3: he would probably I guess, get more hits if he 433 00:18:59,024 --> 00:19:01,704 Speaker 3: was against Taylor Swift. Or maybe he just knows exactly 434 00:19:01,784 --> 00:19:04,584 Speaker 3: where the line is to pick his battles and he's 435 00:19:04,624 --> 00:19:06,264 Speaker 3: decided to throw his hat in the ring with her, 436 00:19:06,344 --> 00:19:08,704 Speaker 3: or he's just a super fan, or he just loves 437 00:19:08,744 --> 00:19:10,744 Speaker 3: Taylor Swift music because he has been like for a 438 00:19:10,784 --> 00:19:13,744 Speaker 3: good like millly ten years I think, spending most of 439 00:19:13,784 --> 00:19:16,304 Speaker 3: his time promoting her. So that part is not like 440 00:19:16,424 --> 00:19:18,784 Speaker 3: that interesting, the fact that he's obsessed with her, like 441 00:19:18,824 --> 00:19:21,024 Speaker 3: it's interesting, But the fact that she sent him a 442 00:19:21,064 --> 00:19:24,184 Speaker 3: handwritten letter, knowing the kind of content he does, that 443 00:19:24,184 --> 00:19:25,264 Speaker 3: he would do a TikTok about it. 444 00:19:25,304 --> 00:19:26,984 Speaker 2: He'll do a whole podcast about it. He posted all 445 00:19:26,984 --> 00:19:27,784 Speaker 2: over his socials. 446 00:19:27,944 --> 00:19:30,344 Speaker 1: It's weird that she wants to be associated with him. 447 00:19:30,384 --> 00:19:31,064 Speaker 2: It's weird that. 448 00:19:30,984 --> 00:19:33,304 Speaker 3: Out of all the people, like the celebrities who have 449 00:19:33,424 --> 00:19:35,184 Speaker 3: spoken up about her in the past and who come 450 00:19:35,224 --> 00:19:38,424 Speaker 3: to her shows, like Nicki Glacier the comedian, She's gone 451 00:19:38,464 --> 00:19:39,384 Speaker 3: to something like twenty. 452 00:19:39,144 --> 00:19:41,304 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift show. She travels all over the world to 453 00:19:41,344 --> 00:19:41,824 Speaker 2: go to them. 454 00:19:42,344 --> 00:19:44,024 Speaker 3: You know, there's people like that who have always been 455 00:19:44,024 --> 00:19:46,264 Speaker 3: really outspoken defense of her. Like I'm not sure if 456 00:19:46,264 --> 00:19:48,544 Speaker 3: she's sending them notes, it's an interesting thing. I just 457 00:19:48,544 --> 00:19:49,184 Speaker 3: find it interesting. 458 00:19:49,344 --> 00:19:50,544 Speaker 1: They were just more demure about it. 459 00:19:50,744 --> 00:19:53,104 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like you would show. 460 00:19:53,464 --> 00:19:53,744 Speaker 3: I know. 461 00:19:53,864 --> 00:19:56,144 Speaker 1: It's like when you know, not everyone showed Megan's jam 462 00:19:56,184 --> 00:19:58,504 Speaker 1: when they got sent and there was like fifty of them. 463 00:19:58,584 --> 00:19:58,784 Speaker 1: I know. 464 00:19:58,944 --> 00:20:01,424 Speaker 3: But well, it kind of reminds me of when Taylor 465 00:20:01,464 --> 00:20:04,024 Speaker 3: Swift and Katy Perry were sending messages when they were, 466 00:20:04,104 --> 00:20:08,144 Speaker 3: you know, repairing their fews, and Katie Perry sent Taylor 467 00:20:08,184 --> 00:20:09,944 Speaker 3: and Olive Branch and Taylor's showed like. 468 00:20:10,464 --> 00:20:13,624 Speaker 1: Do with this, it was a lovely gesture. 469 00:20:13,944 --> 00:20:16,664 Speaker 3: So it's more interesting that she would just align herself 470 00:20:16,744 --> 00:20:20,264 Speaker 3: so publicly. Well, here's a bit about Dave porte Noy, 471 00:20:20,304 --> 00:20:22,624 Speaker 3: and I should say that all of these are allegations 472 00:20:22,624 --> 00:20:26,224 Speaker 3: that have not been improved, and he has denied them all. 473 00:20:26,264 --> 00:20:28,504 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying this is his public history that 474 00:20:28,624 --> 00:20:31,384 Speaker 3: is out there. So back in twenty twenty one, a 475 00:20:31,504 --> 00:20:34,584 Speaker 3: number of sexual assault allegations were put against him. A 476 00:20:34,664 --> 00:20:37,584 Speaker 3: lot of them came from this big feature that was 477 00:20:37,624 --> 00:20:40,904 Speaker 3: printed in Business Insider, and they all call these really 478 00:20:40,944 --> 00:20:44,704 Speaker 3: distressing sexual assault encounters that women had alleged they had 479 00:20:44,704 --> 00:20:47,304 Speaker 3: had with him. So one of the allegations came from 480 00:20:47,344 --> 00:20:49,184 Speaker 3: a woman who was twenty years old at the time, 481 00:20:49,504 --> 00:20:51,464 Speaker 3: and she said that in the summer of twenty twenty, 482 00:20:51,664 --> 00:20:55,584 Speaker 3: she alleged that Dave Portnoy filmed her having oral sex 483 00:20:55,584 --> 00:20:58,344 Speaker 3: with him and then choked her without her permission, and 484 00:20:58,424 --> 00:21:00,944 Speaker 3: she said in a statement, it was so rough, I 485 00:21:00,984 --> 00:21:04,424 Speaker 3: felt like I was being raped. And then she was 486 00:21:04,464 --> 00:21:06,304 Speaker 3: saying that she said a message to a friend later 487 00:21:06,304 --> 00:21:08,424 Speaker 3: which I think was caught up in these allegations, saying 488 00:21:08,464 --> 00:21:11,664 Speaker 3: I was literally screaming out in pain. And then in 489 00:21:11,704 --> 00:21:14,744 Speaker 3: the past another video was made public where it looked 490 00:21:14,744 --> 00:21:16,504 Speaker 3: like he was choking a young woman, but then she 491 00:21:16,624 --> 00:21:19,504 Speaker 3: came out and said that particular moment was consensual. She 492 00:21:19,584 --> 00:21:21,984 Speaker 3: said that she wasn't classifying it as sexual assault, but 493 00:21:22,064 --> 00:21:24,864 Speaker 3: she felt preyed upon by him. And then another woman 494 00:21:24,944 --> 00:21:27,624 Speaker 3: came out and alleged that Dave Portnoy choked her and 495 00:21:27,624 --> 00:21:31,824 Speaker 3: filmed her without permission. And all women spoke to this 496 00:21:31,944 --> 00:21:35,184 Speaker 3: publication under the condition that their names would be kept 497 00:21:35,184 --> 00:21:36,984 Speaker 3: out of the press because they were too scared of 498 00:21:37,024 --> 00:21:41,064 Speaker 3: retaliations what they were saying of Dave Portnoy and his followers, 499 00:21:41,504 --> 00:21:45,024 Speaker 3: because they said that he has a reputation for tormenting 500 00:21:45,064 --> 00:21:47,984 Speaker 3: anyone and like publicly taking them down for anyone who 501 00:21:48,064 --> 00:21:52,304 Speaker 3: crosses him. After that happened, Dave Portnoy immediately went on 502 00:21:52,304 --> 00:21:55,304 Speaker 3: social media and said that everything with these women had 503 00:21:55,344 --> 00:21:58,264 Speaker 3: been consensual. He then went on to show screenshots and 504 00:21:58,344 --> 00:22:02,344 Speaker 3: DMS from a woman saying that a similar thing had happened, 505 00:22:02,384 --> 00:22:04,344 Speaker 3: but she had no regret, and it went on and 506 00:22:04,384 --> 00:22:07,584 Speaker 3: on and on, and obviously he has always come out 507 00:22:07,624 --> 00:22:10,784 Speaker 3: and said that wasn't true, but these allegations sort of 508 00:22:10,824 --> 00:22:14,264 Speaker 3: like have become part of his story and then pretty horrific. 509 00:22:14,264 --> 00:22:17,464 Speaker 3: They're pretty horrific. Allegations, and Business Insider was like, you know, 510 00:22:17,504 --> 00:22:19,384 Speaker 3: we've spoken to these women, we fact check this. These 511 00:22:19,384 --> 00:22:22,904 Speaker 3: are the stories, the allegations they're putting out. He's also 512 00:22:23,064 --> 00:22:25,584 Speaker 3: over the years like made jokes about rape and then 513 00:22:25,624 --> 00:22:27,304 Speaker 3: say like, I don't condone rape, but he'll like make 514 00:22:27,424 --> 00:22:31,224 Speaker 3: jokes about it. He's called other female sports reporters sluts 515 00:22:31,264 --> 00:22:33,504 Speaker 3: and you know, sea words and stuff. When he's doing 516 00:22:33,504 --> 00:22:36,624 Speaker 3: his comedy. There's you know, tapes of him choking another 517 00:22:36,704 --> 00:22:39,064 Speaker 3: college age girl that came out, although that woman came out, 518 00:22:39,104 --> 00:22:42,824 Speaker 3: so it sounds like he doesn't like consensual well except 519 00:22:42,824 --> 00:22:43,384 Speaker 3: for Taylor Swift. 520 00:22:43,664 --> 00:22:44,704 Speaker 2: Yeah, he loves Taylor Swift. 521 00:22:44,744 --> 00:22:47,464 Speaker 3: It's just like he has a very very problematic history, 522 00:22:47,464 --> 00:22:49,784 Speaker 3: I would say, and there's a lot of gray area 523 00:22:49,944 --> 00:22:53,344 Speaker 3: around that around things that have happened. And even if 524 00:22:53,384 --> 00:22:55,784 Speaker 3: you sort of step aside the allegations because they're not 525 00:22:56,024 --> 00:22:58,344 Speaker 3: pro proven thing, like they're just the jokes he makes 526 00:22:58,704 --> 00:23:01,224 Speaker 3: on his own show that you know, he owns the company. 527 00:23:01,264 --> 00:23:03,664 Speaker 3: He can say whatever he wants on his podcast, on 528 00:23:03,744 --> 00:23:05,624 Speaker 3: his shows, on his social media, but a lot of 529 00:23:05,664 --> 00:23:09,304 Speaker 3: it just so doesn't align with anything that Taylor Swift 530 00:23:09,304 --> 00:23:11,544 Speaker 3: puts out into the world. And for a woman that 531 00:23:11,664 --> 00:23:14,544 Speaker 3: is so careful of like curating her image and so 532 00:23:14,664 --> 00:23:16,304 Speaker 3: aware of what she's putting out in the world, and 533 00:23:16,344 --> 00:23:18,904 Speaker 3: so aware of who she aligns herself with and what 534 00:23:18,944 --> 00:23:21,144 Speaker 3: her fans think of her. I just think that was 535 00:23:21,184 --> 00:23:25,664 Speaker 3: a really strange move from her to say I'm going 536 00:23:25,744 --> 00:23:29,584 Speaker 3: to like really align myself publicly with this man when 537 00:23:29,584 --> 00:23:32,184 Speaker 3: he has that reputation. But maybe at the same time, 538 00:23:32,304 --> 00:23:34,744 Speaker 3: she's just also sick of having to like tiptoe around 539 00:23:34,744 --> 00:23:36,784 Speaker 3: and be so aware because on the other hand, like 540 00:23:36,824 --> 00:23:38,904 Speaker 3: she is quite untouchable at the moment, Like this is 541 00:23:38,904 --> 00:23:40,784 Speaker 3: a new story today, but it's not going to like 542 00:23:40,824 --> 00:23:43,224 Speaker 3: affect her long term and Dave Porten, who's going to 543 00:23:43,264 --> 00:23:43,904 Speaker 3: live off this forever. 544 00:23:44,064 --> 00:23:46,224 Speaker 2: So it's worked out well for both of them. 545 00:23:46,464 --> 00:23:48,864 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today. 546 00:23:48,904 --> 00:23:51,664 Speaker 1: If you want more content from us, you can always 547 00:23:51,704 --> 00:23:54,984 Speaker 1: follow us on our Instagram page. 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