1 00:00:10,622 --> 00:00:13,341 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Maya podcast. 2 00:00:13,822 --> 00:00:17,182 Speaker 2: Mamma Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,222 --> 00:00:24,662 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded onny Fuck. 4 00:00:27,262 --> 00:00:31,622 Speaker 3: I just I can't believe this is so stupid. I mean, 5 00:00:31,662 --> 00:00:34,982 Speaker 3: I thought, you know, throwing a pebble at your window 6 00:00:35,022 --> 00:00:38,062 Speaker 3: would be it would be cute because it's our thing. 7 00:00:38,702 --> 00:00:40,182 Speaker 1: I think maybe we need a new thing. 8 00:00:40,662 --> 00:00:41,862 Speaker 3: Rise and shine, beauty. 9 00:00:42,702 --> 00:00:47,702 Speaker 1: I let you sleep in. It's seven al not in Bali. 10 00:00:47,782 --> 00:00:48,942 Speaker 1: I've had three cups already. 11 00:00:49,062 --> 00:00:52,542 Speaker 4: Oh I like the service here. Well, don't get used 12 00:00:52,542 --> 00:00:52,742 Speaker 4: to it. 13 00:00:52,782 --> 00:00:55,182 Speaker 1: If hit a three day limit, it's part of your 14 00:00:55,182 --> 00:01:00,862 Speaker 1: exit package. Herbert an office visit to What do I 15 00:01:00,902 --> 00:01:03,262 Speaker 1: owe this honor? I've been trying to reach you, but 16 00:01:03,662 --> 00:01:04,782 Speaker 1: your phone has been turned off. 17 00:01:04,822 --> 00:01:06,901 Speaker 4: Yeah, I turned it off because of truck. 18 00:01:07,661 --> 00:01:10,741 Speaker 3: It's your father. What about daddy? He had a stroke. 19 00:01:11,702 --> 00:01:16,862 Speaker 1: Well, what a hospital I'll go to. No, it's too late, 20 00:01:17,662 --> 00:01:18,262 Speaker 1: it's gone. 21 00:01:18,662 --> 00:01:19,662 Speaker 3: I slept with Kathy. 22 00:01:20,062 --> 00:01:21,742 Speaker 1: What do you mean you slept with Kathy. 23 00:01:23,422 --> 00:01:28,142 Speaker 3: After the airport. She was just so upset, and I 24 00:01:28,142 --> 00:01:31,342 Speaker 3: mean we both were. I guess we were just trying 25 00:01:31,382 --> 00:01:35,422 Speaker 3: to comfort each other. It just happened, and it will 26 00:01:35,582 --> 00:01:40,542 Speaker 3: never ever happen again. It's just it won't so odd. 27 00:01:40,542 --> 00:01:45,982 Speaker 1: But I kind of understand, Charlotte. What are you doing 28 00:01:46,062 --> 00:01:46,581 Speaker 1: down here? 29 00:01:47,222 --> 00:01:47,342 Speaker 3: What? 30 00:01:48,142 --> 00:01:52,422 Speaker 1: Why why are you holding adult male? Depends? 31 00:01:53,142 --> 00:01:55,022 Speaker 4: Harry has prostate cancer. 32 00:01:55,702 --> 00:01:58,382 Speaker 3: He doesn't want anyone to know or to find it. 33 00:01:58,502 --> 00:02:00,582 Speaker 4: Oh, so that's why I'm all the way down here. 34 00:02:00,982 --> 00:02:03,462 Speaker 1: And please forget that I told you. 35 00:02:04,222 --> 00:02:08,542 Speaker 4: I'm only telling you because guess that depends. 36 00:02:08,061 --> 00:02:13,102 Speaker 1: Hell, I was welcome to a bonus free extra supplementary 37 00:02:13,142 --> 00:02:17,341 Speaker 1: episode of out Loud where we discuss and just like that, 38 00:02:17,462 --> 00:02:20,902 Speaker 1: now this is sponsored by and just like that, which 39 00:02:20,902 --> 00:02:23,822 Speaker 1: you can watch on Max. What does that mean? Doesn't 40 00:02:23,822 --> 00:02:26,221 Speaker 1: mean that we are told what to say, doesn't mean 41 00:02:26,302 --> 00:02:29,341 Speaker 1: that we aren't giving our free and honest opinions. 42 00:02:28,942 --> 00:02:32,262 Speaker 5: Because we are, because we would have done this episode anyway. 43 00:02:32,382 --> 00:02:34,302 Speaker 4: Just trying to stop us talking about this show. 44 00:02:34,342 --> 00:02:37,102 Speaker 5: We watched every minute of this. We have much debriefing 45 00:02:37,222 --> 00:02:37,542 Speaker 5: we do. 46 00:02:37,742 --> 00:02:39,742 Speaker 1: So all it means when we are sponsored to be 47 00:02:39,782 --> 00:02:43,022 Speaker 1: completely transparent is that we get to make another episode 48 00:02:43,222 --> 00:02:45,902 Speaker 1: for you, so we get to talk all about and 49 00:02:45,982 --> 00:02:48,422 Speaker 1: just like that, it's up to episode six. There will 50 00:02:48,462 --> 00:02:49,142 Speaker 1: be spoilers. 51 00:02:49,302 --> 00:02:52,102 Speaker 4: Do you know that there's another six? Because I've watched 52 00:02:52,262 --> 00:02:54,862 Speaker 4: episode six and I was like, how much longer do 53 00:02:54,902 --> 00:02:56,862 Speaker 4: I have to go? Don't tell me it's other because 54 00:02:56,862 --> 00:02:58,382 Speaker 4: I asked half into it. 55 00:02:58,702 --> 00:02:59,582 Speaker 5: Are we only half way? 56 00:02:59,622 --> 00:02:59,822 Speaker 1: Thought? 57 00:03:00,902 --> 00:03:02,022 Speaker 4: We're only half way? 58 00:03:02,302 --> 00:03:03,422 Speaker 1: Halfway? Doll? 59 00:03:03,582 --> 00:03:05,061 Speaker 5: I thought there were some louth hen. 60 00:03:05,181 --> 00:03:08,062 Speaker 1: No, yeah, there are some really sense you were like, really, 61 00:03:08,062 --> 00:03:10,102 Speaker 1: they've liked this girl flubbing? Anyway, why do you The 62 00:03:10,142 --> 00:03:14,222 Speaker 1: way I'd like to start is by just recapping where 63 00:03:14,222 --> 00:03:16,822 Speaker 1: we're at with our characters, and I think we have 64 00:03:16,942 --> 00:03:19,862 Speaker 1: to start, probably with Carrie an Aiden. I think that 65 00:03:20,022 --> 00:03:23,862 Speaker 1: episode six was a big one, Holly, take it away. 66 00:03:23,942 --> 00:03:27,341 Speaker 1: How are you feeling about SJP? Sorry about carry ann Aiden? 67 00:03:27,542 --> 00:03:31,061 Speaker 4: I should say, well, I really enjoyed the episode where 68 00:03:31,102 --> 00:03:34,102 Speaker 4: Carrie went down to Virginia. I found that really interested. 69 00:03:34,142 --> 00:03:35,582 Speaker 1: I think you're the only one I know. 70 00:03:35,662 --> 00:03:37,982 Speaker 4: I think I was. But I found it interesting because 71 00:03:38,022 --> 00:03:40,262 Speaker 4: although all that like I'm just gonna take it lightly 72 00:03:40,302 --> 00:03:44,342 Speaker 4: stuff was annoying. I liked the reality check that she 73 00:03:44,502 --> 00:03:47,382 Speaker 4: got when she had to see what a complicated family 74 00:03:47,422 --> 00:03:49,422 Speaker 4: looks like up close, and she was kind of like, 75 00:03:49,862 --> 00:03:53,422 Speaker 4: I don't really belong in this scenario. I quite like that. Then, 76 00:03:53,462 --> 00:03:55,782 Speaker 4: of course we have the not so subtle seeding of 77 00:03:55,902 --> 00:03:57,542 Speaker 4: the man downstairs. 78 00:03:58,102 --> 00:04:04,342 Speaker 5: I like the callbacks right because Carrie has relationship, whether 79 00:04:04,462 --> 00:04:08,422 Speaker 5: romantic or not, with Writer is from our Burger days 80 00:04:09,062 --> 00:04:13,862 Speaker 5: when she had that very complicated, iconic relationship with him, 81 00:04:13,862 --> 00:04:16,182 Speaker 5: who then left a post it note which we also 82 00:04:16,222 --> 00:04:18,302 Speaker 5: saw in episode six, which was when Aiden put the 83 00:04:18,301 --> 00:04:20,262 Speaker 5: post it note on the mirror. 84 00:04:20,062 --> 00:04:22,222 Speaker 1: And Jesse, can I blow your mind further? You know, 85 00:04:22,301 --> 00:04:27,221 Speaker 1: in real life Berger is married to Kathy, Aiden's ex wife. Yes, 86 00:04:27,861 --> 00:04:28,861 Speaker 1: the Actressy plays. 87 00:04:30,181 --> 00:04:32,861 Speaker 4: Yeah, so the rider downstairs. You know, it's always an 88 00:04:32,902 --> 00:04:34,981 Speaker 4: interesting thing about whether the two writers should get him 89 00:04:34,981 --> 00:04:38,181 Speaker 4: a thing, but he's clearly there to be seated as 90 00:04:38,381 --> 00:04:42,861 Speaker 4: a potential interest. And what we found out about carrying 91 00:04:42,941 --> 00:04:46,381 Speaker 4: episode six, and obviously this episode contains spoilers, so do 92 00:04:46,462 --> 00:04:50,101 Speaker 4: not listen if you haven't watched it, is that when Aiden, 93 00:04:50,142 --> 00:04:52,101 Speaker 4: who's clearly going through a bit of a bad time, 94 00:04:52,342 --> 00:04:55,261 Speaker 4: turns up throws a rock through a window that doesn't 95 00:04:55,262 --> 00:04:59,101 Speaker 4: get out well, but then divulges that he slept with Kathy, 96 00:04:59,861 --> 00:05:02,981 Speaker 4: and Carrie kind of goes that was fine. I was like, 97 00:05:03,061 --> 00:05:06,061 Speaker 4: is that in character or out of character for Carrie? 98 00:05:06,541 --> 00:05:11,101 Speaker 5: I think it's meant to show evolution. Carry we know, 99 00:05:11,782 --> 00:05:13,902 Speaker 5: and there's been a lot of discussion about whether she's 100 00:05:13,981 --> 00:05:16,101 Speaker 5: changed or whether she is just the same carry as 101 00:05:16,902 --> 00:05:18,902 Speaker 5: she has changed. I think that she's evolved. I think 102 00:05:18,941 --> 00:05:19,942 Speaker 5: that she's more grown up. 103 00:05:20,421 --> 00:05:23,381 Speaker 1: And I felt she's clinically depressed this season, which is 104 00:05:23,421 --> 00:05:25,341 Speaker 1: understandable because of Big, Right. 105 00:05:25,662 --> 00:05:26,862 Speaker 5: Oh, I don't see that, but she. 106 00:05:26,861 --> 00:05:28,861 Speaker 1: Hasn't mentioned Big one time. I don't know. 107 00:05:28,941 --> 00:05:31,541 Speaker 4: I kind of feel like she's living her best life 108 00:05:31,621 --> 00:05:33,981 Speaker 4: in a way, like being semi single in that beautiful 109 00:05:34,022 --> 00:05:35,662 Speaker 4: house and tripping around in her shoes. 110 00:05:35,741 --> 00:05:38,222 Speaker 5: I have two issues with I do love. Actually, let's 111 00:05:38,222 --> 00:05:40,462 Speaker 5: just make it three, all right. One thing, take your 112 00:05:40,462 --> 00:05:43,421 Speaker 5: shoes off. So there is a complaint from the neighbor 113 00:05:43,462 --> 00:05:46,022 Speaker 5: downstairs that she's clamping in her heels and he tries 114 00:05:46,061 --> 00:05:48,301 Speaker 5: to sleep during the day. Take the shoes off. 115 00:05:48,262 --> 00:05:51,261 Speaker 1: Lady, don't want that. Just sewing throwing red meat to 116 00:05:51,301 --> 00:05:53,582 Speaker 1: the base like it's just a way of showing lots 117 00:05:53,621 --> 00:05:56,182 Speaker 1: of carrying shoes, like carry and shoes, carrying shoes. I 118 00:05:56,181 --> 00:05:58,621 Speaker 1: thought that was actually a very effective way to get 119 00:05:58,662 --> 00:06:01,541 Speaker 1: a ton of outfits from below the knee. Me too, 120 00:06:01,782 --> 00:06:03,421 Speaker 1: and I was quite satisfied by it, even though I 121 00:06:03,421 --> 00:06:04,381 Speaker 1: thought the plot was silly. 122 00:06:04,462 --> 00:06:07,461 Speaker 5: Second point, she was a bitch about the window. I 123 00:06:07,501 --> 00:06:10,741 Speaker 5: feel as though like he got it, window was a mistake. 124 00:06:10,902 --> 00:06:13,462 Speaker 5: My issue with Carrie sometimes is that like she doesn't 125 00:06:13,501 --> 00:06:15,662 Speaker 5: really apologize. She says something really hurtful, and then the 126 00:06:15,702 --> 00:06:17,142 Speaker 5: person who is like that hurt me and she kind 127 00:06:17,142 --> 00:06:19,621 Speaker 5: of looks at them and he's like, h. 128 00:06:20,262 --> 00:06:22,741 Speaker 4: But hold on, so what happened, right, Let's be clear. 129 00:06:22,782 --> 00:06:25,501 Speaker 4: So Aiden turns up after their sort of semi disastrous 130 00:06:25,582 --> 00:06:29,022 Speaker 4: Virginia situation. He turns up and in the old days 131 00:06:29,101 --> 00:06:31,501 Speaker 4: he used to throw pebbles up to her window when 132 00:06:31,501 --> 00:06:34,741 Speaker 4: she lived in that beautiful brownstone. Kid, it's a callback, 133 00:06:35,101 --> 00:06:37,501 Speaker 4: and so he's trying to do that, but he shatters 134 00:06:37,541 --> 00:06:40,942 Speaker 4: the window, and she is upset because it's beautiful antiqu glass, 135 00:06:40,981 --> 00:06:42,622 Speaker 4: and she's very obsessed with this at the minute. She's 136 00:06:42,621 --> 00:06:47,261 Speaker 4: writing historical fiction that apparently casts little rainbows. Now, I 137 00:06:47,301 --> 00:06:49,942 Speaker 4: had no idea that there were different types of glass. 138 00:06:50,262 --> 00:06:52,821 Speaker 4: I didn't know that there was like fancy glass that 139 00:06:52,902 --> 00:06:56,021 Speaker 4: casts rainbows and cheap glass that doesn't. But I thought 140 00:06:56,101 --> 00:06:58,822 Speaker 4: her reaction was fair enough, because you know that sometimes 141 00:06:58,902 --> 00:07:02,621 Speaker 4: somebody damages or loses or something that is important to you. Yeah, 142 00:07:02,861 --> 00:07:04,782 Speaker 4: and we're all supposed to go, oh, it doesn't matter, 143 00:07:04,821 --> 00:07:06,822 Speaker 4: it's fine, and she does go it doesn't matter, it's 144 00:07:06,861 --> 00:07:08,381 Speaker 4: fine after a while, but your. 145 00:07:08,222 --> 00:07:10,821 Speaker 1: Initial reaction everything's ruined. 146 00:07:10,622 --> 00:07:13,222 Speaker 4: Can sometimes reveal how you really feel about it. And 147 00:07:13,302 --> 00:07:15,622 Speaker 4: so when she made that stupid comment about like, but 148 00:07:15,662 --> 00:07:17,622 Speaker 4: it won't cust the little rambos, that that's how she 149 00:07:17,702 --> 00:07:20,502 Speaker 4: really felt. And then she realized she was being unreasonable 150 00:07:20,502 --> 00:07:22,662 Speaker 4: and was this worth having a big fight about? And 151 00:07:22,702 --> 00:07:25,141 Speaker 4: she tried to backtrack. I've done that many times. 152 00:07:25,182 --> 00:07:28,542 Speaker 1: Is anyone still cheering for them? Because this man makes 153 00:07:28,582 --> 00:07:30,542 Speaker 1: my vagina shrivel into. 154 00:07:30,381 --> 00:07:33,261 Speaker 5: The SaHas too small suit that made me want to 155 00:07:33,462 --> 00:07:33,862 Speaker 5: but just. 156 00:07:33,821 --> 00:07:36,941 Speaker 1: Everything about him he is so even before the licking 157 00:07:37,062 --> 00:07:41,862 Speaker 1: hand in episode one, the weirdness of will you wait 158 00:07:41,941 --> 00:07:46,662 Speaker 1: for five years? The inconsistency about Kathy has a partner 159 00:07:46,782 --> 00:07:50,341 Speaker 1: and what whyat can't ever be left alone? That whole 160 00:07:50,381 --> 00:07:54,782 Speaker 1: plotline I just find incredibly unsatisfying. And what I also 161 00:07:54,902 --> 00:07:58,261 Speaker 1: found awesome but then unsatisfying, because every so often the 162 00:07:58,262 --> 00:08:00,902 Speaker 1: writers give Sarah Jessica Parker enough to get her teeth 163 00:08:00,941 --> 00:08:03,062 Speaker 1: into and you're like, oh god, she's a great actress. 164 00:08:03,502 --> 00:08:08,021 Speaker 1: That scene where he confesses about sleeping with Kathy, and 165 00:08:08,182 --> 00:08:10,901 Speaker 1: so many things go over her face, and then she 166 00:08:11,022 --> 00:08:14,902 Speaker 1: starts saying, well, actually, I understand it's not the reaction 167 00:08:14,982 --> 00:08:16,822 Speaker 1: I thought she'd have. I understand how that could happen. 168 00:08:16,862 --> 00:08:18,422 Speaker 1: And he's like, aren't you mad that I slept with someone. 169 00:08:18,542 --> 00:08:20,662 Speaker 1: She's like no, and he's like, well, i'd be mad 170 00:08:20,702 --> 00:08:22,462 Speaker 1: if you slept with someone, and she's like, well wait, 171 00:08:22,502 --> 00:08:24,942 Speaker 1: I didn't agree to not sleep with someone. And then 172 00:08:24,982 --> 00:08:27,902 Speaker 1: she says what we've all been thinking. I can't believe 173 00:08:27,902 --> 00:08:30,502 Speaker 1: we're only just talking about this now, and I'm like, 174 00:08:30,622 --> 00:08:33,222 Speaker 1: thank you, yes, they talk about it. 175 00:08:33,302 --> 00:08:35,381 Speaker 5: We would like to know the parameters of this relation. 176 00:08:35,542 --> 00:08:37,542 Speaker 1: But then the scene ends and the next cut is 177 00:08:37,582 --> 00:08:41,302 Speaker 1: of them in bed when his Dick's probably still you know, 178 00:08:42,262 --> 00:08:44,902 Speaker 1: and someone else like sting. 179 00:08:44,542 --> 00:08:47,982 Speaker 5: That I don't think Aiden was invited to the funeral. 180 00:08:48,022 --> 00:08:50,062 Speaker 5: I'll put that on the table. Have you even met her, 181 00:08:50,302 --> 00:08:51,222 Speaker 5: let alone her father? 182 00:08:51,422 --> 00:08:56,702 Speaker 4: So this is ltw's funerals. Her father dies, and there's 183 00:08:56,742 --> 00:08:58,782 Speaker 4: a clumsy plot, but it's I get what they're doing 184 00:08:58,822 --> 00:09:00,782 Speaker 4: of like, she was so busy at work, she didn't 185 00:09:00,822 --> 00:09:03,062 Speaker 4: answer the phone, and she missed the final moments with 186 00:09:03,102 --> 00:09:05,702 Speaker 4: her father. They all go to the funeral. The funeral 187 00:09:05,782 --> 00:09:07,822 Speaker 4: is great, Like I'm just putting it out there. It 188 00:09:07,902 --> 00:09:11,222 Speaker 4: was great. The funeral turns up and his two small suit, 189 00:09:11,222 --> 00:09:14,142 Speaker 4: which is bad, But you're right, he probably wasn't invited, 190 00:09:14,142 --> 00:09:15,982 Speaker 4: but he should go with her. I would expect my 191 00:09:16,022 --> 00:09:17,542 Speaker 4: partner to come to a funeral with me if he 192 00:09:17,622 --> 00:09:18,102 Speaker 4: was in town. 193 00:09:18,262 --> 00:09:20,502 Speaker 5: No, I feel as though it was like a New 194 00:09:20,582 --> 00:09:23,622 Speaker 5: York event hole exactly. They used it as date night. 195 00:09:24,022 --> 00:09:26,062 Speaker 5: Two more little notes on carry The first one is 196 00:09:26,062 --> 00:09:29,582 Speaker 5: is anyone really dictating their text messages? That was That's 197 00:09:29,622 --> 00:09:31,782 Speaker 5: annoying me. The second thing is I worry about the 198 00:09:31,862 --> 00:09:34,062 Speaker 5: lack of research going into the romantic fiction. 199 00:09:34,222 --> 00:09:36,422 Speaker 1: Although I do have to say just on the text message. 200 00:09:36,462 --> 00:09:39,142 Speaker 1: I have always been wondering how you do functuation, and 201 00:09:39,182 --> 00:09:41,262 Speaker 1: now I know say that. 202 00:09:40,622 --> 00:09:44,862 Speaker 5: So she's writing, she's writing that historical novel, and she's 203 00:09:44,862 --> 00:09:47,022 Speaker 5: doing no research. She's just going off vibes, and I 204 00:09:47,062 --> 00:09:50,062 Speaker 5: feel like she's got to read a few primary sources. 205 00:09:50,062 --> 00:09:51,942 Speaker 4: She's done a lot of research into that house, a 206 00:09:51,942 --> 00:09:54,902 Speaker 4: lot of research. Yes, she talked about it heaps in 207 00:09:54,902 --> 00:09:57,382 Speaker 4: that first boring bit where she met with one who 208 00:09:58,862 --> 00:10:01,262 Speaker 4: anyway back to we need to focus tiny bit more 209 00:10:01,382 --> 00:10:05,422 Speaker 4: on that confession. Right, My view is I think it 210 00:10:05,502 --> 00:10:07,462 Speaker 4: was very mature of her to be like, Okay, I 211 00:10:07,462 --> 00:10:08,902 Speaker 4: can see how that could happen. I could see how 212 00:10:08,942 --> 00:10:11,542 Speaker 4: it could happen too, But cheating with your ex wife 213 00:10:11,662 --> 00:10:16,182 Speaker 4: is actually worse than cheating with just some random bar person. 214 00:10:16,262 --> 00:10:18,422 Speaker 1: Don't you think, oh, we are clearer on the parameters 215 00:10:18,422 --> 00:10:20,022 Speaker 1: of this arrangement, because. 216 00:10:19,782 --> 00:10:22,222 Speaker 4: But that's okay. Relationships are messy. But I like that 217 00:10:22,302 --> 00:10:24,902 Speaker 4: she knew that. I like that she went I wasn't 218 00:10:24,942 --> 00:10:28,182 Speaker 4: thinking of being celibate, and I thought, oh, so now 219 00:10:28,222 --> 00:10:30,822 Speaker 4: the man downstairs, the sexy gardener, whoever they're seeding for 220 00:10:30,902 --> 00:10:33,382 Speaker 4: us that she might sleep with, she actually might sleep 221 00:10:33,382 --> 00:10:34,902 Speaker 4: with them. But it doesn't mean it's over with Aden. 222 00:10:34,942 --> 00:10:36,102 Speaker 4: But that was exciting. 223 00:10:35,742 --> 00:10:40,222 Speaker 1: Whole We spent an entire episode with her angsting like 224 00:10:40,342 --> 00:10:44,182 Speaker 1: a teenager about the thumbs down emoji, and then he goes, oh, 225 00:10:44,262 --> 00:10:45,662 Speaker 1: I slept with Kathy, and she's. 226 00:10:45,502 --> 00:10:48,381 Speaker 4: Like, as you rightly say, she was axting about are 227 00:10:48,382 --> 00:10:50,062 Speaker 4: we supposed to be in contact? Aren't we all that? 228 00:10:50,222 --> 00:10:52,182 Speaker 4: Now they are they're working it out in real time. 229 00:10:52,382 --> 00:10:54,622 Speaker 4: But don't you think it's worse to sleep with your 230 00:10:54,622 --> 00:10:55,622 Speaker 4: ex wives that are stranger. 231 00:10:55,662 --> 00:10:58,702 Speaker 5: I actually don't don't know. No, I feel as though 232 00:10:59,022 --> 00:11:01,462 Speaker 5: looking at them, I had the same reaction that Carrie did, 233 00:11:01,462 --> 00:11:03,102 Speaker 5: which was like, oh, I don't really care that he 234 00:11:03,142 --> 00:11:06,142 Speaker 5: slept with Kathy because they both know it's done. They 235 00:11:06,222 --> 00:11:10,182 Speaker 5: both did it in like a moment of like sadness. 236 00:11:10,382 --> 00:11:12,222 Speaker 1: I don't know how Bob's going to feel about it, Yeah, 237 00:11:12,262 --> 00:11:12,782 Speaker 1: poor Bob. 238 00:11:12,982 --> 00:11:15,182 Speaker 4: I think it's worse because they do have history and 239 00:11:15,182 --> 00:11:16,822 Speaker 4: they're always going to be in each other's lives because 240 00:11:16,822 --> 00:11:18,702 Speaker 4: of the kids. So how many more times might it happen? 241 00:11:18,782 --> 00:11:21,022 Speaker 4: Oras If it's just the bar maid from the tavern 242 00:11:21,102 --> 00:11:24,942 Speaker 4: down the road, that's a different situation anyway, from the tavern. 243 00:11:26,782 --> 00:11:30,222 Speaker 4: We'll be back with more of our very real feelings 244 00:11:30,422 --> 00:11:30,782 Speaker 4: about it. 245 00:11:30,982 --> 00:11:31,502 Speaker 1: Just like that. 246 00:11:31,662 --> 00:11:34,022 Speaker 5: In a second, can we talk about Charlotte. 247 00:11:34,022 --> 00:11:36,622 Speaker 1: Please, let's talk about Charlotte. I'm deep in the and 248 00:11:36,702 --> 00:11:39,742 Speaker 1: just like that subreddits, and there's a lot of discussion 249 00:11:40,182 --> 00:11:46,261 Speaker 1: about Kristin Davis and her permanently startled expression. I like it, 250 00:11:46,382 --> 00:11:50,182 Speaker 1: and just feeling like she's just a ditch and that 251 00:11:50,382 --> 00:11:51,302 Speaker 1: she's just got. 252 00:11:51,222 --> 00:11:53,502 Speaker 4: She's always been that. What did you think was gonna 253 00:11:53,502 --> 00:11:56,662 Speaker 4: happen charlotte'suddenly going to be like reincarnated as Yoda. 254 00:11:56,742 --> 00:11:59,022 Speaker 1: I do you have Charlotte in the club? I liked 255 00:11:59,062 --> 00:12:01,262 Speaker 1: it when Charlotte went in the club. Harry has not 256 00:12:01,342 --> 00:12:03,142 Speaker 1: had a good season, and now we know why he's 257 00:12:03,182 --> 00:12:04,222 Speaker 1: got prostate cancer. 258 00:12:04,502 --> 00:12:07,822 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel such warmth towards Harry, Poor Harry. Yeah. 259 00:12:07,862 --> 00:12:11,542 Speaker 5: I found that storyline really stink, like whether she tells 260 00:12:11,542 --> 00:12:14,102 Speaker 5: her friends and her acting out of character. She's someone 261 00:12:14,102 --> 00:12:16,462 Speaker 5: who relies on her friends a lot. 262 00:12:17,422 --> 00:12:20,502 Speaker 4: And also I liked how Carrie knew, like she just knew. 263 00:12:20,782 --> 00:12:23,262 Speaker 4: Carrie was like, what's going on with you? That nothing? 264 00:12:23,502 --> 00:12:26,022 Speaker 4: The others didn't care, but Harry could pick it up. 265 00:12:26,302 --> 00:12:28,422 Speaker 4: But is it fair for Harry to have asked her 266 00:12:28,462 --> 00:12:30,502 Speaker 4: of that? Because he gets diagnosed with prostate cancer? He 267 00:12:30,542 --> 00:12:32,982 Speaker 4: makes it clear lots of guys my age do it's 268 00:12:33,022 --> 00:12:35,662 Speaker 4: gonna be fine, but we can all acknowledge that cancer 269 00:12:35,742 --> 00:12:38,422 Speaker 4: is a scary word, a scary diagnosis. It would be scary. 270 00:12:38,742 --> 00:12:41,022 Speaker 4: So they're going through what they're going through, and he says, 271 00:12:41,022 --> 00:12:43,502 Speaker 4: do not tell the girls. Is that a fair thing 272 00:12:43,542 --> 00:12:43,902 Speaker 4: to ask? 273 00:12:44,022 --> 00:12:45,982 Speaker 5: I think you have to honor it. And I think 274 00:12:46,022 --> 00:12:49,862 Speaker 5: that when she's found in the shop by Carrie, she 275 00:12:49,902 --> 00:12:52,422 Speaker 5: had no choice. She kind of had to just reveal 276 00:12:52,542 --> 00:12:54,942 Speaker 5: what was happening. But I think so, And I think 277 00:12:54,982 --> 00:12:55,222 Speaker 5: that that. 278 00:12:55,342 --> 00:12:58,782 Speaker 1: Loadin Nigga's fair really no, because not only are you 279 00:12:58,862 --> 00:13:01,622 Speaker 1: asking her to cope with it, you're asking her to 280 00:13:01,702 --> 00:13:05,142 Speaker 1: cope with it without any support and having to be 281 00:13:05,822 --> 00:13:09,102 Speaker 1: like everything's fine, everything's fine. And I think that that's 282 00:13:09,142 --> 00:13:12,062 Speaker 1: one thing perhaps for men who might be able to 283 00:13:12,062 --> 00:13:14,342 Speaker 1: have those kind of friendships, but as a woman, when 284 00:13:14,382 --> 00:13:17,782 Speaker 1: you've got very deep friendships, as you say, oh, your 285 00:13:17,782 --> 00:13:20,422 Speaker 1: friend's clock it, so either you've got to just sort 286 00:13:20,422 --> 00:13:24,822 Speaker 1: of be detached from everybody, but the person around the 287 00:13:24,822 --> 00:13:28,782 Speaker 1: person who's unwell in a situation like that also is 288 00:13:28,822 --> 00:13:32,782 Speaker 1: going through an incredibly difficult time and they need support 289 00:13:32,822 --> 00:13:34,782 Speaker 1: of their own, like the Karen needs caring too. 290 00:13:35,022 --> 00:13:37,422 Speaker 5: Yeah, but I understand his point that he just doesn't 291 00:13:37,422 --> 00:13:39,582 Speaker 5: want people. And if he told the way that they're 292 00:13:39,582 --> 00:13:43,582 Speaker 5: all so enmeshed, like whenever someone meets him, they're gonna 293 00:13:43,622 --> 00:13:45,782 Speaker 5: look at him a certain way and speak to him 294 00:13:45,782 --> 00:13:46,342 Speaker 5: a certain No. 295 00:13:46,702 --> 00:13:48,702 Speaker 1: I get that. I just think it's a tough ass. 296 00:13:48,742 --> 00:13:50,542 Speaker 4: What do you think they're trying to tell us? Because 297 00:13:50,582 --> 00:13:54,342 Speaker 4: obviously Charlotte and her friendship with LTW is more and 298 00:13:54,382 --> 00:13:57,182 Speaker 4: more prominent. They're really good mates. Now, what's going on 299 00:13:57,222 --> 00:13:59,462 Speaker 4: with LTW and the hot editor? What are they trying 300 00:13:59,462 --> 00:14:00,182 Speaker 4: to tell us about that? 301 00:14:00,422 --> 00:14:01,462 Speaker 5: Like the work crush line. 302 00:14:01,542 --> 00:14:04,942 Speaker 1: I really like this because she's got a hot husband, 303 00:14:05,022 --> 00:14:08,782 Speaker 1: they've got a great marriage, she's fulfilled in marriage, they 304 00:14:08,782 --> 00:14:12,382 Speaker 1: have a great set, So it's not that anything's lacking, 305 00:14:12,902 --> 00:14:17,062 Speaker 1: And I think that that now this grief situation, losing 306 00:14:17,102 --> 00:14:20,822 Speaker 1: her father is an interesting complication, and she's clearly got 307 00:14:21,142 --> 00:14:24,742 Speaker 1: complex feelings about work and about family. But I like 308 00:14:24,822 --> 00:14:27,662 Speaker 1: what they're playing with here. And I also like this 309 00:14:27,742 --> 00:14:29,742 Speaker 1: actor a lot. I think she's got the two hottest 310 00:14:29,742 --> 00:14:30,462 Speaker 1: men in the whole show. 311 00:14:30,662 --> 00:14:34,542 Speaker 4: She does, definitely George Washington Miranda. 312 00:14:35,222 --> 00:14:39,742 Speaker 5: Miranda has a girlfriend. I'm quite enjoying. It feels like 313 00:14:39,782 --> 00:14:44,222 Speaker 5: the first kind of grown up relationship that Miranda has 314 00:14:44,262 --> 00:14:45,382 Speaker 5: had since she came. 315 00:14:45,222 --> 00:14:48,022 Speaker 1: Out, Yes, since before she came out. I don't know 316 00:14:48,062 --> 00:14:50,782 Speaker 1: if her relationship with Steve felt like an over relationship 317 00:14:50,782 --> 00:14:51,342 Speaker 1: of equals. 318 00:14:51,462 --> 00:14:55,462 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I like very much. Particularly in the earlier 319 00:14:55,542 --> 00:14:58,622 Speaker 4: scenes of her and Joy, the writers are really nailing 320 00:14:58,742 --> 00:14:59,982 Speaker 4: their dialogue. 321 00:14:59,502 --> 00:15:00,062 Speaker 5: The flirting. 322 00:15:00,102 --> 00:15:03,022 Speaker 4: The flirting was great, that back and forth was great. 323 00:15:03,102 --> 00:15:05,742 Speaker 4: I don't know, as is always the case, now that 324 00:15:05,782 --> 00:15:08,862 Speaker 4: it's actually been fulfilled and they're moving into relationship church, 325 00:15:08,942 --> 00:15:10,822 Speaker 4: it might not be quite It's so fun. Joy is 326 00:15:10,862 --> 00:15:12,862 Speaker 4: a little bit painful about those little dogs, as much 327 00:15:12,902 --> 00:15:15,942 Speaker 4: as I like dogs. But that was really fun and 328 00:15:15,982 --> 00:15:17,102 Speaker 4: the actress is great. 329 00:15:17,462 --> 00:15:19,622 Speaker 1: And I've really warmed to Brady in that scene that 330 00:15:19,662 --> 00:15:22,822 Speaker 1: he has even met Joy. I was expecting that to 331 00:15:22,822 --> 00:15:25,902 Speaker 1: go a different way. I also really liked, you know, 332 00:15:25,982 --> 00:15:30,062 Speaker 1: this idea of the troubled teenager in Wyatt. But I 333 00:15:30,182 --> 00:15:32,542 Speaker 1: liked that there were some other young men through the 334 00:15:32,622 --> 00:15:35,702 Speaker 1: show with Aidan's other two sons and now Brady, who 335 00:15:35,742 --> 00:15:38,502 Speaker 1: are like really good young men, yes. 336 00:15:38,422 --> 00:15:42,302 Speaker 4: And welcoming of their parents' partners. I really like that, 337 00:15:42,382 --> 00:15:44,902 Speaker 4: and I think Joy's great. Do we have high hopes? 338 00:15:45,342 --> 00:15:47,742 Speaker 5: Yeah? I do have high I think I want some 339 00:15:47,782 --> 00:15:50,422 Speaker 5: happiness from Aroanda. I like that a lot. 340 00:15:50,582 --> 00:15:53,502 Speaker 1: We'll be back after this break to talk about Seema 341 00:15:53,742 --> 00:15:54,742 Speaker 1: complicated feelings. 342 00:15:54,822 --> 00:15:58,582 Speaker 4: Yeah, why do we think that Seema suddenly everything's going 343 00:15:58,622 --> 00:15:59,302 Speaker 4: wrong for Seema? 344 00:15:59,462 --> 00:16:01,502 Speaker 1: I can't well, because they needed a complication, but I 345 00:16:01,542 --> 00:16:04,782 Speaker 1: can't warm to Seema. I feel like they obviously brought 346 00:16:04,782 --> 00:16:07,462 Speaker 1: her in. They brought a few characters. 347 00:16:07,022 --> 00:16:08,622 Speaker 5: Into it, but she's the new amount. 348 00:16:08,782 --> 00:16:11,062 Speaker 1: She's the news amount, and she was brought in I 349 00:16:11,102 --> 00:16:15,382 Speaker 1: think as the new Samantha, like a very ambitious, ball busting, single, 350 00:16:15,902 --> 00:16:21,102 Speaker 1: sex positive older woman. My problem with Seema is that 351 00:16:21,222 --> 00:16:24,702 Speaker 1: she has none of the lightness and charm that Kim 352 00:16:24,742 --> 00:16:26,822 Speaker 1: Kachrall Is an actor had, and that the character of 353 00:16:26,822 --> 00:16:30,062 Speaker 1: Samantha had. She was a ball buster, but she was 354 00:16:30,102 --> 00:16:32,662 Speaker 1: also a little bit naughty and a little bit mischievous, 355 00:16:32,742 --> 00:16:34,582 Speaker 1: and she had a great sense of humor. I feel 356 00:16:34,622 --> 00:16:37,702 Speaker 1: like Sema is incredibly negative. 357 00:16:38,222 --> 00:16:41,622 Speaker 5: I disagree. I really really like I think that she. 358 00:16:41,582 --> 00:16:43,462 Speaker 1: I think she's always complaining funny. 359 00:16:43,742 --> 00:16:49,182 Speaker 5: I see her as being funny and ambitious and challenging, 360 00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:51,582 Speaker 5: and the relationship that she has with Carrie seems a 361 00:16:51,582 --> 00:16:54,942 Speaker 5: bit like a proxy for Samantha to me, and I 362 00:16:55,022 --> 00:16:57,102 Speaker 5: like what she represents. I like that there's a fourth chair. 363 00:16:57,142 --> 00:17:00,062 Speaker 5: I think it feels empty, yeah when there's just three 364 00:17:00,142 --> 00:17:01,942 Speaker 5: of them sitting there, so I think that she's fitting 365 00:17:01,982 --> 00:17:02,502 Speaker 5: quite well. 366 00:17:02,582 --> 00:17:06,062 Speaker 4: I also really enjoyed I know it wasn't in these episodes, 367 00:17:06,101 --> 00:17:07,302 Speaker 4: it was in one of the early ones, but I 368 00:17:07,341 --> 00:17:09,502 Speaker 4: really enjoyed that little montage where she met all the time, 369 00:17:09,942 --> 00:17:12,262 Speaker 4: you know, and she said updated type in New York. 370 00:17:12,502 --> 00:17:14,022 Speaker 4: And there's the guy who want a bitch about his 371 00:17:14,101 --> 00:17:16,141 Speaker 4: ex wife and there's and she's like, I can tell. 372 00:17:16,022 --> 00:17:18,262 Speaker 5: You're going to be my favorite. Like that was when 373 00:17:18,861 --> 00:17:20,782 Speaker 5: the man sat down and she just goes nope. 374 00:17:22,101 --> 00:17:25,302 Speaker 4: I also really like looking at Sema. I think she's 375 00:17:25,381 --> 00:17:28,941 Speaker 4: beautiful too. I like that her forehead moves. I like 376 00:17:29,022 --> 00:17:31,021 Speaker 4: that her clothes are amazing, Like she has a very 377 00:17:31,061 --> 00:17:33,341 Speaker 4: distinct color scheme. I'm very upset she's had to give 378 00:17:33,422 --> 00:17:34,182 Speaker 4: up that car that. 379 00:17:34,302 --> 00:17:37,022 Speaker 1: Don't give up smoking, which she definitely has not, given 380 00:17:38,182 --> 00:17:39,102 Speaker 1: that car that. 381 00:17:39,182 --> 00:17:42,782 Speaker 4: Is this particular custom color which you never see. It's 382 00:17:42,942 --> 00:17:44,941 Speaker 4: very sad for her. Why are they bringing Sema to 383 00:17:44,982 --> 00:17:45,421 Speaker 4: her niece? 384 00:17:45,502 --> 00:17:47,421 Speaker 1: I know, I find that the way, And it's not 385 00:17:47,462 --> 00:17:50,822 Speaker 1: the actress's fault, because the actress is amazing, Sarita Chowdry, 386 00:17:50,861 --> 00:17:54,782 Speaker 1: but they write her as such a caricature, Like the 387 00:17:54,821 --> 00:17:57,061 Speaker 1: way she talks is not the way humans talk. 388 00:17:57,502 --> 00:18:00,182 Speaker 5: None of them talk like humans talk. But it's their 389 00:18:00,222 --> 00:18:02,221 Speaker 5: shoehorning in and they're doing this with all of it. 390 00:18:02,302 --> 00:18:05,502 Speaker 5: But like a plot line that is realistic for women 391 00:18:05,542 --> 00:18:07,142 Speaker 5: of that age. So it's like us three could sit 392 00:18:07,182 --> 00:18:08,861 Speaker 5: here and go okay, So you've got to have a 393 00:18:08,901 --> 00:18:13,581 Speaker 5: health complicated even the exploring the sexuality thing that's been 394 00:18:13,821 --> 00:18:17,701 Speaker 5: Miranda's and for her it's like this real crossroads. I mean, 395 00:18:17,702 --> 00:18:20,621 Speaker 5: it's sort of like what mids almost like they've listened 396 00:18:20,621 --> 00:18:23,661 Speaker 5: to a season of Midle. They have yes, they just 397 00:18:23,742 --> 00:18:25,621 Speaker 5: don't bring up protein enough. I think that that's going 398 00:18:25,661 --> 00:18:28,142 Speaker 5: to be the next thing. But with her, it's kind 399 00:18:28,182 --> 00:18:30,782 Speaker 5: of going. She's at this crossroads in her career where 400 00:18:30,821 --> 00:18:32,581 Speaker 5: she's like, do I want to keep working for someone 401 00:18:32,621 --> 00:18:35,141 Speaker 5: else or do I have this wind in me to 402 00:18:35,262 --> 00:18:36,701 Speaker 5: kind of do it myself. I think a lot of 403 00:18:36,702 --> 00:18:37,502 Speaker 5: women are facing that. 404 00:18:37,581 --> 00:18:40,422 Speaker 4: You're right, Actually, she is at a crossroads. So we're 405 00:18:40,462 --> 00:18:43,542 Speaker 4: at the halfway point of the season. Let's make some predictions. 406 00:18:44,141 --> 00:18:46,862 Speaker 4: What's going to happen with Carry and the guy downstairs. 407 00:18:47,542 --> 00:18:49,141 Speaker 4: One of the things that I quite like about the 408 00:18:49,141 --> 00:18:52,142 Speaker 4: Aiden situation is that they are setting it up that 409 00:18:52,182 --> 00:18:54,861 Speaker 4: she could have both in a way, which I quite like. 410 00:18:54,982 --> 00:18:57,182 Speaker 1: It makes sense actually now because you know the scene 411 00:18:57,182 --> 00:19:00,542 Speaker 1: where she's having dinner with him, and what I'm loving 412 00:19:00,702 --> 00:19:03,222 Speaker 1: is the dialogue because I just think Aiden's as dumb 413 00:19:03,222 --> 00:19:06,542 Speaker 1: as a brick, and she can't flirt with him like Carrie. 414 00:19:06,581 --> 00:19:09,341 Speaker 1: He's not quite a character. She's a writer, she's funny, 415 00:19:09,341 --> 00:19:12,141 Speaker 1: she likes playing with words, she likes puns. She can't 416 00:19:12,182 --> 00:19:14,502 Speaker 1: banter it. There's no banter with Aiden because Aiden just 417 00:19:14,542 --> 00:19:17,981 Speaker 1: says something like you're as hot as a garage calendar girl, 418 00:19:18,101 --> 00:19:21,181 Speaker 1: and like, oh, I just find that he's such a 419 00:19:21,222 --> 00:19:25,821 Speaker 1: bumpkin and he's so dumb. But there's that big like 420 00:19:26,542 --> 00:19:28,542 Speaker 1: frisson and good banter with Duncan. 421 00:19:28,581 --> 00:19:30,502 Speaker 5: I have a theory about it, all right, so this 422 00:19:30,661 --> 00:19:32,701 Speaker 5: is going to go. I'm loving the callback. So I 423 00:19:32,782 --> 00:19:34,582 Speaker 5: reckon that she's going to give him feedback and he's 424 00:19:34,581 --> 00:19:35,782 Speaker 5: going to take it on board, and she's going to 425 00:19:35,821 --> 00:19:38,821 Speaker 5: find that very sexy. I wonder if, as you say, Holly, 426 00:19:38,861 --> 00:19:41,022 Speaker 5: the thing about having them both he is only in 427 00:19:41,101 --> 00:19:43,662 Speaker 5: New York for six months a year. I wonder if 428 00:19:43,702 --> 00:19:46,141 Speaker 5: she's like six months on six months off like she 429 00:19:46,222 --> 00:19:48,381 Speaker 5: does the Aiden and him thing, that would be fun. 430 00:19:48,462 --> 00:19:51,661 Speaker 4: I really admire the confidence of her giving her first 431 00:19:51,742 --> 00:19:54,982 Speaker 4: chapter of her historical row, which is terrible. Pull it 432 00:19:55,101 --> 00:20:00,101 Speaker 4: surprise living biographer from London, who, by every like signpost 433 00:20:00,141 --> 00:20:03,661 Speaker 4: we've been given, is a commogonally snob when it comes 434 00:20:03,661 --> 00:20:06,621 Speaker 4: to writing. I like the confidence where she's like, sure, 435 00:20:06,702 --> 00:20:07,861 Speaker 4: read this, that's good. 436 00:20:07,901 --> 00:20:11,302 Speaker 1: And that's what makes sense to me now about their 437 00:20:11,381 --> 00:20:15,142 Speaker 1: dynamic is that she's not like flirting coy. She's like 438 00:20:15,702 --> 00:20:18,461 Speaker 1: they're equals and their friendly. And that's why in the 439 00:20:18,502 --> 00:20:21,661 Speaker 1: scene after that, before Aiden arrives and she's brushing her teeth, 440 00:20:21,982 --> 00:20:25,261 Speaker 1: she just mentions Duncan casually, Oh, I had this stew 441 00:20:25,302 --> 00:20:27,422 Speaker 1: and Duncan something. There's something going on, by the way, 442 00:20:27,581 --> 00:20:28,942 Speaker 1: So I think she's going to have a. 443 00:20:28,901 --> 00:20:30,581 Speaker 4: Health problem too. 444 00:20:30,901 --> 00:20:32,222 Speaker 1: They're definitely signaling something. 445 00:20:32,422 --> 00:20:35,222 Speaker 4: Definitely, maybe she's pregnant, there's no way. 446 00:20:35,341 --> 00:20:42,222 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely a health complication being signaled quite strongly there. 447 00:20:42,661 --> 00:20:45,901 Speaker 1: But when she's brushing her teeth, she just casually says Duncan, 448 00:20:45,982 --> 00:20:49,742 Speaker 1: So she's not like hiding anything. So obviously she's just yeah, 449 00:20:49,942 --> 00:20:51,022 Speaker 1: I'm really liking that. 450 00:20:51,141 --> 00:20:54,861 Speaker 5: I reckon that LTW is going to toe the line 451 00:20:55,141 --> 00:20:58,421 Speaker 5: very close with her sexy man in the workplace, Like, 452 00:20:58,462 --> 00:20:59,782 Speaker 5: I think that that's going to be a line that 453 00:20:59,821 --> 00:21:01,662 Speaker 5: she tows, and it's a question of whether she goes 454 00:21:01,661 --> 00:21:02,782 Speaker 5: over it or not. I don't think it's going to 455 00:21:02,782 --> 00:21:04,141 Speaker 5: be a four blown affair or anything. She's just going 456 00:21:04,222 --> 00:21:05,381 Speaker 5: to tell it and then she's going to be like, 457 00:21:05,422 --> 00:21:07,102 Speaker 5: hang on, I love this man from Hamilton. 458 00:21:07,262 --> 00:21:08,421 Speaker 1: Yeah, why wouldn't you? 459 00:21:08,502 --> 00:21:09,182 Speaker 5: Yeah exactly. 460 00:21:09,222 --> 00:21:11,022 Speaker 1: And I think think Carrie is going to end up 461 00:21:11,022 --> 00:21:13,061 Speaker 1: with Dunkan. I think that the aident. I'd love it 462 00:21:13,101 --> 00:21:15,502 Speaker 1: to see if it was a polyamorous situation that would 463 00:21:15,502 --> 00:21:16,462 Speaker 1: feel modern, it. 464 00:21:16,381 --> 00:21:17,702 Speaker 4: Would feel it would be fine. 465 00:21:17,702 --> 00:21:19,462 Speaker 5: And how about Charlotte. I think Aiden would. 466 00:21:19,341 --> 00:21:22,421 Speaker 4: Not handle that. He's like, he would not handle it, 467 00:21:22,462 --> 00:21:24,302 Speaker 4: but it would be fun for her woman. 468 00:21:24,621 --> 00:21:27,341 Speaker 5: Charlotte and Harry, he's going to be absolutely fine. 469 00:21:27,381 --> 00:21:27,902 Speaker 1: He'll be fine. 470 00:21:27,901 --> 00:21:30,502 Speaker 4: That's just they can't take that up because, as you 471 00:21:30,542 --> 00:21:32,901 Speaker 4: said about it being your favorite, like Charlotte and Harry 472 00:21:33,222 --> 00:21:36,742 Speaker 4: lovely the best relationship, and you're right, he has another 473 00:21:36,742 --> 00:21:38,661 Speaker 4: good season, but he gets a few good lines and 474 00:21:38,742 --> 00:21:39,702 Speaker 4: every now and again, Harry. 475 00:21:39,821 --> 00:21:41,581 Speaker 1: I'm just glad that she's got more to do than 476 00:21:41,702 --> 00:21:44,782 Speaker 1: just have silly plotline about a dog being canceled. 477 00:21:44,821 --> 00:21:47,061 Speaker 5: Seems is going to choose herself, just like Samantha always. 478 00:21:47,222 --> 00:21:49,102 Speaker 4: She's going to be successful and. 479 00:21:49,061 --> 00:21:51,821 Speaker 5: She's going to meet someone who's got yeah she is. 480 00:21:51,942 --> 00:21:54,182 Speaker 1: Oh, so she's going to hook up with a gardener 481 00:21:54,222 --> 00:21:56,422 Speaker 1: hot gardener. Oh yeah, of course, if not her type. 482 00:21:56,542 --> 00:21:58,821 Speaker 1: And I think Joy and Miranda will be a solid thing. 483 00:21:58,982 --> 00:21:59,901 Speaker 1: I think it'll be lovely. 484 00:22:00,101 --> 00:22:02,421 Speaker 5: Agree. It just feels like a really safe place at 485 00:22:02,462 --> 00:22:05,141 Speaker 5: a time that is not good in terms of the 486 00:22:05,182 --> 00:22:08,141 Speaker 5: news and everything. I really like spending time with them. 487 00:22:08,262 --> 00:22:11,022 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. It's like I go through a whole journey. 488 00:22:11,022 --> 00:22:13,981 Speaker 1: Every episode I get infuriated, and then I'm like, I 489 00:22:13,982 --> 00:22:16,662 Speaker 1: want a million more episodes out loud as. You can 490 00:22:16,901 --> 00:22:19,502 Speaker 1: watch the first six episodes of And just like that 491 00:22:19,661 --> 00:22:25,061 Speaker 1: on Max Streaming Now see soon, Bye bye bye.