1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:15,265 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:15,305 --> 00:00:18,345 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,465 --> 00:00:21,185 Speaker 1: is recorded on Hey you beis. It's Lee here and 4 00:00:21,265 --> 00:00:24,265 Speaker 1: I'm popping into your ears, not literally, thankfully, but I'm 5 00:00:24,265 --> 00:00:26,225 Speaker 1: here on a Thursday because I want you to listen 6 00:00:26,265 --> 00:00:28,865 Speaker 1: to this episode of Nothing to Wear. My guest is 7 00:00:28,905 --> 00:00:31,065 Speaker 1: a woman called Haley Burton. You might have heard the 8 00:00:31,145 --> 00:00:33,265 Speaker 1: name because she's behind the scenes, but she is the 9 00:00:33,265 --> 00:00:37,265 Speaker 1: woman behind so many celebrities amazing looks. She had to 10 00:00:37,305 --> 00:00:42,185 Speaker 1: sew Drake personally handstitched fly back up pair of pants. 11 00:00:42,345 --> 00:00:45,145 Speaker 1: But beyond that, she has the most incredible tips and 12 00:00:45,185 --> 00:00:49,385 Speaker 1: tricks about how to tailor our own clothes. They fit perfectly. Sure, 13 00:00:49,585 --> 00:00:51,185 Speaker 1: some might need to be done by an expert, but 14 00:00:51,225 --> 00:00:53,505 Speaker 1: you'd be surprised. Most of it we can do at home. 15 00:00:53,705 --> 00:00:55,425 Speaker 1: So have a listen and let me know what you think. 16 00:00:57,425 --> 00:01:00,305 Speaker 2: Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously. 17 00:00:59,825 --> 00:01:04,425 Speaker 1: Disturbed laurels spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have to 18 00:01:04,505 --> 00:01:08,585 Speaker 1: do it. You live for fashion. Hello and welcome to 19 00:01:08,625 --> 00:01:12,105 Speaker 1: Nothing to Wear. Casset solves fashion problems and levels up 20 00:01:12,145 --> 00:01:15,265 Speaker 1: your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell on every week I chat 21 00:01:15,305 --> 00:01:17,665 Speaker 1: to an expert who helps us get more out of 22 00:01:17,665 --> 00:01:20,945 Speaker 1: the clothes we already own, and today we're doing just that. 23 00:01:21,825 --> 00:01:24,385 Speaker 1: So have you ever wondered or wish that you were 24 00:01:24,425 --> 00:01:27,345 Speaker 1: fancy and rich enough to have clothes that sit you perfectly? 25 00:01:27,985 --> 00:01:31,545 Speaker 1: Have you ever wondered how the celebrities always look so flawless? 26 00:01:31,585 --> 00:01:34,865 Speaker 1: And have you ever wanted to sew Drake into a 27 00:01:34,865 --> 00:01:38,465 Speaker 1: pair of pants? Well, my expert today has done all 28 00:01:38,505 --> 00:01:40,625 Speaker 1: of that. She knows everything, So let me read you this. 29 00:01:40,705 --> 00:01:46,505 Speaker 1: CV Hailey Burton has worked with celebrities. She's styled Pink, Rihanna, 30 00:01:46,625 --> 00:01:50,945 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande, Drake, Justin Bieber, and Taylor Swift. I mean, 31 00:01:50,985 --> 00:01:53,145 Speaker 1: she's way too humble to say all that. That's why 32 00:01:53,185 --> 00:01:55,105 Speaker 1: I'm here. So today we're going to talk about what 33 00:01:55,145 --> 00:01:57,585 Speaker 1: it's like to style celebrities of that caliber, what goes 34 00:01:57,625 --> 00:01:59,665 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. She also does a lot of 35 00:01:59,705 --> 00:02:04,025 Speaker 1: reality TV styling, but more than that, she's a seamstressed 36 00:02:04,065 --> 00:02:05,705 Speaker 1: in a tailor, And we're going to talk about us, 37 00:02:05,785 --> 00:02:08,545 Speaker 1: the regular people that aren't on stage in leotards. And 38 00:02:08,585 --> 00:02:11,905 Speaker 1: she's got some amazing tips and tricks for our existing clothes. 39 00:02:12,185 --> 00:02:14,945 Speaker 1: Little tweaks that will make them look a million bucks. 40 00:02:15,025 --> 00:02:18,545 Speaker 1: She's got so many wonderful hacks, so let's get into it. Hayley, 41 00:02:18,825 --> 00:02:21,305 Speaker 1: welcome to Nothing to Wear. Thank you for having me 42 00:02:21,665 --> 00:02:24,345 Speaker 1: very excited to talk about the things they're going to discuss, 43 00:02:24,345 --> 00:02:26,305 Speaker 1: because you've got a lot of experience. But first, new 44 00:02:26,345 --> 00:02:30,425 Speaker 1: guests have to answer two questions before they're allowed officially 45 00:02:30,505 --> 00:02:34,425 Speaker 1: to proceed. Can you describe your style in three words? 46 00:02:34,705 --> 00:02:37,505 Speaker 2: I would have to say, today doesn't reflect. I'm normally colorful. 47 00:02:37,625 --> 00:02:39,625 Speaker 2: I always wear a lot of color. Today doesn't reflect. 48 00:02:39,745 --> 00:02:42,385 Speaker 2: That's the color, the many statement I love, prince, I 49 00:02:42,425 --> 00:02:45,785 Speaker 2: love bold prints, color, and probably effortless as well. It's 50 00:02:45,825 --> 00:02:47,865 Speaker 2: like something that you can easily throw on because I'm 51 00:02:47,865 --> 00:02:50,465 Speaker 2: always working with people and dressing them. Yeah, I kind 52 00:02:50,465 --> 00:02:52,425 Speaker 2: of don't put much into myself, so I like an 53 00:02:52,465 --> 00:02:53,185 Speaker 2: effortless one. 54 00:02:53,265 --> 00:02:54,585 Speaker 1: And is that because you also have to get like 55 00:02:54,665 --> 00:02:57,505 Speaker 1: down and pin and like you're actually moving around a 56 00:02:57,585 --> 00:02:57,985 Speaker 1: lot much. 57 00:02:58,025 --> 00:03:02,185 Speaker 2: You need to be able to get down and not flash, yes, yeah, yeah, 58 00:03:02,185 --> 00:03:03,985 Speaker 2: And just something easy and working and you don't have 59 00:03:04,025 --> 00:03:05,305 Speaker 2: to think about what you're actually wearing. 60 00:03:05,425 --> 00:03:07,385 Speaker 1: Yes, you've put it on and you can get to work. Yeah, 61 00:03:07,425 --> 00:03:10,145 Speaker 1: all right, there's a theory that rings pretty. So we've 62 00:03:10,185 --> 00:03:13,105 Speaker 1: got a wardrobe of clothes. But within that wardrobe, there's 63 00:03:13,145 --> 00:03:15,665 Speaker 1: ten percent that we wear the most that we reach 64 00:03:15,745 --> 00:03:18,785 Speaker 1: for over and over that I just outried and true. 65 00:03:18,825 --> 00:03:20,305 Speaker 1: What would be in your ten percent? 66 00:03:20,625 --> 00:03:23,545 Speaker 2: I would say sets. I'm very much a sets person. 67 00:03:23,785 --> 00:03:26,345 Speaker 2: Then I don't have to think about actually putting a 68 00:03:26,345 --> 00:03:29,185 Speaker 2: look together. Yeah, because it's pretty much top and the bottom. Yeah, 69 00:03:29,265 --> 00:03:31,065 Speaker 2: you're ready to go and you look done as well. 70 00:03:31,185 --> 00:03:33,745 Speaker 2: I'm short, so if I put on a block print 71 00:03:33,745 --> 00:03:35,265 Speaker 2: on the bottom and then I just wear a cup 72 00:03:35,305 --> 00:03:36,865 Speaker 2: plane colored top off the top, I get cut in 73 00:03:36,905 --> 00:03:39,825 Speaker 2: half because I am so short, so it cuts my proportion. 74 00:03:39,905 --> 00:03:42,025 Speaker 2: But if I wear the same thing up and down, yes, 75 00:03:42,145 --> 00:03:43,745 Speaker 2: I don't get cut in half, and I look taller 76 00:03:43,785 --> 00:03:47,265 Speaker 2: than what's clever half five foot one probably five foot 77 00:03:47,265 --> 00:03:47,505 Speaker 2: in a. 78 00:03:47,425 --> 00:03:51,065 Speaker 1: Bit talk to centimeters meters one fifty five Okay I'm 79 00:03:51,065 --> 00:03:53,865 Speaker 1: on sixty three that hell, but pretty much if I 80 00:03:53,905 --> 00:03:55,705 Speaker 1: wear the same color the whole way through, all the 81 00:03:55,705 --> 00:03:57,385 Speaker 1: same print the whole way through, I don't feel like 82 00:03:57,425 --> 00:03:59,865 Speaker 1: I get cut in half. And is the set usually 83 00:03:59,905 --> 00:04:03,225 Speaker 1: pants pants set? Yeah? For work? Mainly pants set? Yeah. 84 00:04:03,265 --> 00:04:05,225 Speaker 2: Then depending on what I'm doing I will do a 85 00:04:05,265 --> 00:04:05,985 Speaker 2: skirt and the top. 86 00:04:06,105 --> 00:04:07,625 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was going to say, why not a 87 00:04:07,625 --> 00:04:09,665 Speaker 1: Maxi dress, But I guess you can't work as easily 88 00:04:09,705 --> 00:04:10,225 Speaker 1: in a Maxi. 89 00:04:10,385 --> 00:04:11,905 Speaker 2: But if you get me on holidays and I'm in 90 00:04:11,905 --> 00:04:13,585 Speaker 2: a Maxi dress twenty four to seven. 91 00:04:13,385 --> 00:04:16,265 Speaker 1: Okay, so that's your okay go to on the holidays. 92 00:04:16,625 --> 00:04:19,625 Speaker 2: As well as jumpsuit. I'm a lover of a jumpsuit. 93 00:04:19,705 --> 00:04:21,985 Speaker 1: My god, I'm the lover of the look of a jumpsuit. 94 00:04:22,025 --> 00:04:25,345 Speaker 1: But I wee a lot. Oh okay, yeah, that's not practical. No, 95 00:04:25,785 --> 00:04:27,665 Speaker 1: And you know when you're just sometimes in a bathroom 96 00:04:27,705 --> 00:04:29,865 Speaker 1: and the ones particularly that you have to like fully 97 00:04:29,865 --> 00:04:31,065 Speaker 1: disrobe and you're like, I'm naked. 98 00:04:31,225 --> 00:04:33,105 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, definitely, and I have to tuck my sleeves 99 00:04:33,105 --> 00:04:35,385 Speaker 2: in because otherwise your arms go flapping. 100 00:04:35,065 --> 00:04:36,945 Speaker 1: Around all they drop in the toilets. 101 00:04:36,985 --> 00:04:37,505 Speaker 2: I've done that. 102 00:04:37,505 --> 00:04:40,585 Speaker 1: That happened to me a few weeks ago. Oh no, yeah, 103 00:04:40,625 --> 00:04:42,625 Speaker 1: I love the look, but I'm like, okay, is it 104 00:04:42,665 --> 00:04:45,585 Speaker 1: a short lunch? How much water do I need? Okay? 105 00:04:45,705 --> 00:04:47,305 Speaker 1: I like that. There was it that was quite a 106 00:04:47,385 --> 00:04:50,105 Speaker 1: unique ten percent. Most people say jeans. I don't own 107 00:04:50,145 --> 00:04:52,105 Speaker 1: a pair of jeans at all, okay, we're going to 108 00:04:52,145 --> 00:04:54,585 Speaker 1: get into that. Yeah, okay, We've got a lot to 109 00:04:54,625 --> 00:04:56,705 Speaker 1: talk about. Okay, you're a very humble person. We were 110 00:04:56,705 --> 00:04:58,825 Speaker 1: talking before we started recording, and you're like, oh no, 111 00:04:58,945 --> 00:05:02,585 Speaker 1: just this that excuse me. You have worked with celebrities 112 00:05:02,665 --> 00:05:06,945 Speaker 1: like Taylor. I love how there's no surnames written here Taylor, Ariana, 113 00:05:07,425 --> 00:05:11,145 Speaker 1: Rihanna Drake. You recently were with Katy Perry on the 114 00:05:11,185 --> 00:05:15,665 Speaker 1: Aussie two are Yes, Holy hell, I'm sure there's plenty 115 00:05:15,705 --> 00:05:17,905 Speaker 1: of NDAs in place. And for people that don't know 116 00:05:17,905 --> 00:05:20,425 Speaker 1: what that is, it's a non disclosure agreement, so thereby 117 00:05:20,585 --> 00:05:22,305 Speaker 1: you sign it and then you could never talk about 118 00:05:22,345 --> 00:05:25,025 Speaker 1: what happens. But can you pull the curtain back a bit? 119 00:05:25,105 --> 00:05:28,345 Speaker 1: What's it like working with names like that? 120 00:05:28,385 --> 00:05:31,665 Speaker 2: There are normal people down to earth. They do expect 121 00:05:31,665 --> 00:05:34,265 Speaker 2: a lot and there is a lot of waiting around 122 00:05:34,385 --> 00:05:36,785 Speaker 2: for those types of people. Yes, but I think I've 123 00:05:36,825 --> 00:05:39,305 Speaker 2: been doing it for so long now that they're just 124 00:05:39,345 --> 00:05:42,025 Speaker 2: like normal people. There are like you and I just 125 00:05:42,025 --> 00:05:43,585 Speaker 2: got a job to do, just got a job to do. 126 00:05:43,705 --> 00:05:45,025 Speaker 2: I get in there, I do what I've got to do, 127 00:05:45,225 --> 00:05:47,705 Speaker 2: and I get out pretty much, or you sit there 128 00:05:47,705 --> 00:05:49,745 Speaker 2: for fifteen hours, and sometimes. 129 00:05:49,385 --> 00:05:50,465 Speaker 1: You have to wait for people. 130 00:05:50,625 --> 00:05:54,225 Speaker 2: There's a life wait tom when they finally decide to 131 00:05:54,265 --> 00:05:56,145 Speaker 2: do a fitting or so, it's funny you. 132 00:05:56,105 --> 00:05:58,505 Speaker 1: Say that one of those people on that list. Back 133 00:05:58,545 --> 00:06:01,345 Speaker 1: in my Cosmo days when I was doing beauty, I 134 00:06:01,425 --> 00:06:03,865 Speaker 1: was flown to interview one of those people, and then 135 00:06:03,905 --> 00:06:07,065 Speaker 1: they were too busy before the concept fine waiting around 136 00:06:07,065 --> 00:06:08,745 Speaker 1: after the concept they don't want to do it. Then 137 00:06:08,745 --> 00:06:10,665 Speaker 1: they flew me to another city and then I ended 138 00:06:10,745 --> 00:06:12,905 Speaker 1: up interviewing them two in the morning after that concert. 139 00:06:13,025 --> 00:06:14,745 Speaker 1: I mean, it was very glamorous and I had no kids, 140 00:06:14,745 --> 00:06:16,865 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is great, but yeah, I 141 00:06:16,905 --> 00:06:18,265 Speaker 1: experienced that way. 142 00:06:18,425 --> 00:06:19,825 Speaker 2: But even like it was funny. I didn't know who 143 00:06:19,865 --> 00:06:22,465 Speaker 2: Drake was when I worked with him, being naive, not 144 00:06:22,545 --> 00:06:23,505 Speaker 2: knowing his celebrities are. 145 00:06:23,585 --> 00:06:25,505 Speaker 1: How long wait, how long ago was this? 146 00:06:25,705 --> 00:06:27,825 Speaker 2: Probably when he was here, not the most recent time 147 00:06:27,825 --> 00:06:29,105 Speaker 2: he was here. I worked with him this time that 148 00:06:29,145 --> 00:06:31,305 Speaker 2: he was here as well, but the previous time probably okay, 149 00:06:31,345 --> 00:06:33,265 Speaker 2: five six years ago. 150 00:06:33,185 --> 00:06:35,945 Speaker 1: Made okay, and I just was like cool, I like that, 151 00:06:36,025 --> 00:06:38,105 Speaker 1: you don't I don't know. I didn't know who he was. 152 00:06:38,145 --> 00:06:38,745 Speaker 1: I don't know who the. 153 00:06:39,985 --> 00:06:42,625 Speaker 2: Fly broke and I literally this guy comes out to 154 00:06:42,705 --> 00:06:45,105 Speaker 2: me goes, hey, love, my fly is broken. What can 155 00:06:45,145 --> 00:06:47,385 Speaker 2: you do? So I'm standing there and I'm literally sewing 156 00:06:47,465 --> 00:06:51,625 Speaker 2: him in, had my hands down his pad. That sounds 157 00:06:51,705 --> 00:06:56,665 Speaker 2: very wrong, and so I didn't. It was like, well, 158 00:06:56,705 --> 00:06:58,625 Speaker 2: he goes, what ty you put that needle? And then 159 00:06:59,185 --> 00:07:00,985 Speaker 2: literally he left and I was like and they're like, 160 00:07:01,025 --> 00:07:02,825 Speaker 2: you do realize that was Drake And like, oh, okay, No. 161 00:07:03,065 --> 00:07:05,385 Speaker 2: I came home told all my friends that I worked 162 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:05,945 Speaker 2: and they're. 163 00:07:05,745 --> 00:07:07,345 Speaker 1: Like, what do you mean? And oh my god, Yeah 164 00:07:07,385 --> 00:07:11,065 Speaker 1: that's good because if that was me old, oh my god. 165 00:07:10,305 --> 00:07:12,105 Speaker 2: And sewed him up for the Yeah, sowed him up 166 00:07:12,105 --> 00:07:12,705 Speaker 2: for that concert. 167 00:07:12,825 --> 00:07:13,945 Speaker 1: How did you get out of them? Did he have 168 00:07:14,545 --> 00:07:15,425 Speaker 1: to cut him out? No? 169 00:07:15,545 --> 00:07:17,225 Speaker 2: Only as we were is one look, oh. 170 00:07:17,345 --> 00:07:20,225 Speaker 1: God, man, have that's so easy. Okay. So, as I've said, 171 00:07:20,225 --> 00:07:21,905 Speaker 1: you've been in the industry for years, not saying that 172 00:07:21,905 --> 00:07:24,905 Speaker 1: you're old who has experienced, and I hear you're the 173 00:07:24,985 --> 00:07:27,305 Speaker 1: go to on all sorts of TV shows as well. 174 00:07:27,385 --> 00:07:31,625 Speaker 1: So we've got Maths, Love Island, The Voice Idol. How 175 00:07:31,665 --> 00:07:33,145 Speaker 1: did you get into this industry? 176 00:07:33,305 --> 00:07:35,065 Speaker 2: I kind of fell into it because I could sew. 177 00:07:35,905 --> 00:07:38,665 Speaker 2: I was working for a designer and there was a 178 00:07:38,705 --> 00:07:40,345 Speaker 2: stylist that used to come in. This is back in 179 00:07:40,345 --> 00:07:42,345 Speaker 2: the day when stylists used to come in loan product 180 00:07:42,345 --> 00:07:44,905 Speaker 2: from stores. So yeah, going back a bit, Internet wasn't 181 00:07:44,905 --> 00:07:45,705 Speaker 2: as big as it is now. 182 00:07:45,785 --> 00:07:47,585 Speaker 1: My god, that was me and magazines. We had to 183 00:07:47,585 --> 00:07:49,705 Speaker 1: go to store to find a thing and then take 184 00:07:49,745 --> 00:07:50,065 Speaker 1: it back. 185 00:07:50,145 --> 00:07:51,345 Speaker 2: I worked in the store and we used to have 186 00:07:51,345 --> 00:07:54,225 Speaker 2: styleist coming all the time. She came in and she 187 00:07:54,425 --> 00:07:57,225 Speaker 2: was like, can you babysit my child? Like this is 188 00:07:57,265 --> 00:07:59,425 Speaker 2: It's such a random way to get into these jobs. 189 00:07:59,465 --> 00:08:02,505 Speaker 2: So when the store or store and she goes, oh, 190 00:08:02,545 --> 00:08:03,665 Speaker 2: can you baby sit my child? I've got to go 191 00:08:03,665 --> 00:08:05,065 Speaker 2: to an event. She was a stylist for I think 192 00:08:05,065 --> 00:08:06,825 Speaker 2: it was Vogue back in the day. She came home 193 00:08:06,865 --> 00:08:09,105 Speaker 2: that night and I was stewing on the couch literally staring, 194 00:08:09,265 --> 00:08:11,785 Speaker 2: and she's like so and I'm like yeah. She said, 195 00:08:11,825 --> 00:08:13,985 Speaker 2: can you come on set tomorrow for a Bonds campaign 196 00:08:14,025 --> 00:08:16,105 Speaker 2: with Sarah Murdoch and sew her into a garment. So 197 00:08:16,145 --> 00:08:19,585 Speaker 2: I fell into it by doing something completely different, even 198 00:08:19,585 --> 00:08:21,785 Speaker 2: though I was working for a designer at the stage. Yeah, 199 00:08:21,865 --> 00:08:24,185 Speaker 2: I fell into it because I was at her house 200 00:08:24,185 --> 00:08:25,625 Speaker 2: and she saw that I could sew and then I 201 00:08:25,625 --> 00:08:28,825 Speaker 2: started assisting her. But the way I fell into TV again, 202 00:08:28,985 --> 00:08:31,225 Speaker 2: they needed the same stress on set, and I went 203 00:08:31,265 --> 00:08:33,345 Speaker 2: in to actually do all the alterations or do some 204 00:08:33,385 --> 00:08:35,785 Speaker 2: custom makes, and then I just woked my way up. 205 00:08:35,825 --> 00:08:37,865 Speaker 2: And now I run a lot of the departments for 206 00:08:37,905 --> 00:08:38,625 Speaker 2: the TV shows. 207 00:08:38,785 --> 00:08:40,905 Speaker 1: Okay, fascinating, And so can you tell me is that 208 00:08:40,945 --> 00:08:44,145 Speaker 1: because you know, I guess, particularly reality TV, but even 209 00:08:44,345 --> 00:08:47,665 Speaker 1: celebrities aren't all one size fits all. And you get 210 00:08:47,705 --> 00:08:49,625 Speaker 1: it a garment and it might not fit there, or 211 00:08:49,665 --> 00:08:51,865 Speaker 1: that might be too long, or it needs nipping in here. 212 00:08:52,025 --> 00:08:53,905 Speaker 1: And is that often done like the last minute before 213 00:08:53,905 --> 00:08:54,585 Speaker 1: you start shooting? 214 00:08:54,585 --> 00:08:56,865 Speaker 2: The thing is so last minute when it comes to 215 00:08:57,585 --> 00:08:59,905 Speaker 2: like tailoring a garment. So a lot of the time 216 00:08:59,945 --> 00:09:02,785 Speaker 2: you don't fit the artist or the talent until a 217 00:09:02,865 --> 00:09:05,385 Speaker 2: day or if not, on the morning of the actual shoot. 218 00:09:05,785 --> 00:09:07,945 Speaker 2: So sometimes I'd get caught in just to do alterations. 219 00:09:07,945 --> 00:09:11,505 Speaker 2: But now as I do styling and like seamstress, so 220 00:09:11,505 --> 00:09:12,625 Speaker 2: I just jump in and I do it myself. 221 00:09:12,625 --> 00:09:13,825 Speaker 1: It's just easier to fix it. 222 00:09:13,985 --> 00:09:16,745 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's one process, yes, exactly, And I feel 223 00:09:17,025 --> 00:09:19,905 Speaker 2: you understand the body more knowing that you can tailor 224 00:09:19,945 --> 00:09:22,745 Speaker 2: the garment to their body because everyone's not a perfect 225 00:09:22,785 --> 00:09:24,265 Speaker 2: size eight, which is not the samples are. 226 00:09:24,425 --> 00:09:26,665 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like I think because yeah, even if you 227 00:09:26,705 --> 00:09:28,345 Speaker 1: are an eight, you could be heavier in the bottom 228 00:09:28,505 --> 00:09:30,505 Speaker 1: or that is, or broad shoulders. Yeah. 229 00:09:30,585 --> 00:09:33,465 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've worked out as well, like if somebody 230 00:09:33,505 --> 00:09:34,825 Speaker 2: is a size twelve, but you want them to fit 231 00:09:34,865 --> 00:09:36,465 Speaker 2: in the size eight, you just put a panel in 232 00:09:36,865 --> 00:09:39,505 Speaker 2: and try and camouflage the garment, like you. 233 00:09:39,585 --> 00:09:41,185 Speaker 1: Just Yeah, if you've got one garment, you've got to 234 00:09:41,225 --> 00:09:43,105 Speaker 1: make it work. You can make it work. Yeah, I 235 00:09:43,105 --> 00:09:44,865 Speaker 1: think outside the box is the way I look at you. 236 00:09:44,945 --> 00:09:48,585 Speaker 1: The way I think that is so cool. Okay, So, 237 00:09:49,505 --> 00:09:51,585 Speaker 1: as you've kind of just alluded to, you can pretty 238 00:09:51,665 --> 00:09:54,585 Speaker 1: much tailor anything and make a whole look. When you're 239 00:09:54,625 --> 00:09:58,025 Speaker 1: sourcing pieces, what are you looking for? Is it fabrics? Cuts? 240 00:09:58,225 --> 00:10:03,905 Speaker 1: Styles that can be changed? Like, what can you change? Nothing? 241 00:10:04,105 --> 00:10:05,825 Speaker 2: I would never think outside the box. And that's why 242 00:10:05,825 --> 00:10:08,585 Speaker 2: I've taught my assistants and my team as well. Whenever 243 00:10:08,585 --> 00:10:10,905 Speaker 2: you're shopping, if you see something that you think might 244 00:10:10,945 --> 00:10:13,505 Speaker 2: look good on stage, might look good in a shoot, think. 245 00:10:13,305 --> 00:10:13,985 Speaker 1: Outside the box. 246 00:10:13,985 --> 00:10:16,385 Speaker 2: If you you're artists, you're dressing, is a size twelve 247 00:10:16,425 --> 00:10:17,585 Speaker 2: fourteen by two size eights. 248 00:10:17,585 --> 00:10:19,225 Speaker 1: If you can't get the fourteen, yeah, we can do. 249 00:10:19,505 --> 00:10:21,225 Speaker 1: We can alter it, bring it together. We do. 250 00:10:21,305 --> 00:10:25,305 Speaker 2: With performance TV, it's completely different to other reality TV 251 00:10:25,865 --> 00:10:26,105 Speaker 2: or a. 252 00:10:26,065 --> 00:10:27,825 Speaker 1: Regular person getting dressed. Pretty much. 253 00:10:27,945 --> 00:10:30,025 Speaker 2: Yeah, we always look for a performance piece. So it 254 00:10:30,065 --> 00:10:31,465 Speaker 2: always has to be something that's going to be a 255 00:10:31,465 --> 00:10:34,065 Speaker 2: performance piece that looks something like a bit different to 256 00:10:34,105 --> 00:10:35,185 Speaker 2: what you normally. 257 00:10:34,865 --> 00:10:39,545 Speaker 1: Wear or example like sparkles, Yes, sparkles, but as well 258 00:10:39,545 --> 00:10:41,185 Speaker 1: like I could do a dnim like what you've got 259 00:10:41,185 --> 00:10:43,345 Speaker 1: on now and we just do a dimonte trim monitor 260 00:10:43,465 --> 00:10:46,265 Speaker 1: or we add add some studs or something to some 261 00:10:46,345 --> 00:10:47,785 Speaker 1: cool customs. Customs. 262 00:10:47,825 --> 00:10:50,465 Speaker 2: So we do customize a lot. Like on Australian Idol, 263 00:10:50,665 --> 00:10:54,225 Speaker 2: everything is pretty much customized, I have to say pretty much. 264 00:10:54,265 --> 00:10:56,505 Speaker 2: I would say ninety percent of it. We customize all 265 00:10:56,505 --> 00:11:01,265 Speaker 2: custom make rather than just go because online I feel 266 00:11:01,265 --> 00:11:05,105 Speaker 2: like what's online it's everywhere. Yeah, it's everywhere. You can't 267 00:11:05,105 --> 00:11:07,865 Speaker 2: get individual pieces and it's nothing unique. So it's always 268 00:11:07,945 --> 00:11:10,705 Speaker 2: about customizing looks, make them a little bit special, a 269 00:11:10,705 --> 00:11:11,545 Speaker 2: little bit elevated. 270 00:11:20,345 --> 00:11:23,065 Speaker 1: So say a listener wanted to either find you, like 271 00:11:23,105 --> 00:11:27,505 Speaker 1: a really amazing tailor or try something at home. What's 272 00:11:27,625 --> 00:11:29,305 Speaker 1: like Dan, and I can imagine would be easy to 273 00:11:29,305 --> 00:11:31,905 Speaker 1: add some sparkles, like I wouldn't want to tailor leather 274 00:11:32,065 --> 00:11:35,985 Speaker 1: or unless I mean it's expensive, Like it's hard, and 275 00:11:36,025 --> 00:11:38,065 Speaker 1: the problem with leather is they glue the seams down. 276 00:11:38,145 --> 00:11:40,185 Speaker 2: So leather is hard. But you can customize it. Buy 277 00:11:40,225 --> 00:11:44,625 Speaker 2: some diamondies, buy some studs. Spotlight has some great pieces 278 00:11:45,265 --> 00:11:46,145 Speaker 2: and patches as. 279 00:11:46,065 --> 00:11:47,865 Speaker 1: Well, Like I'm so into patches right now. 280 00:11:48,185 --> 00:11:50,385 Speaker 2: Are even fringing, and you can always you can double 281 00:11:50,385 --> 00:11:52,465 Speaker 2: start it taping on. For one, where underneath a pocket 282 00:11:52,665 --> 00:11:53,425 Speaker 2: you've got a pocket. 283 00:11:53,265 --> 00:11:55,625 Speaker 1: Flactice if you want to, if you like it, Yeah, 284 00:11:55,665 --> 00:11:56,945 Speaker 1: so leather would work. 285 00:11:57,105 --> 00:11:59,705 Speaker 2: Or even like you buy a pair of basic pants 286 00:11:59,745 --> 00:12:01,385 Speaker 2: and you want to just add a stripe down the 287 00:12:01,425 --> 00:12:04,945 Speaker 2: side which is very transparent, there's that iron on tem tape, 288 00:12:05,065 --> 00:12:06,825 Speaker 2: like even for one where that you can do that 289 00:12:06,865 --> 00:12:08,585 Speaker 2: for one where iron it on, get a piece of ribbon, 290 00:12:08,665 --> 00:12:10,385 Speaker 2: get a piece of trimmed it down the side of 291 00:12:10,385 --> 00:12:10,745 Speaker 2: a pant. 292 00:12:11,025 --> 00:12:12,865 Speaker 1: I've got that tape because I have to take all 293 00:12:12,865 --> 00:12:14,825 Speaker 1: my pants up, as I imagine you would too, hen sweat. 294 00:12:14,865 --> 00:12:17,145 Speaker 1: Don't own jeans, but I never even thought of doing 295 00:12:17,185 --> 00:12:17,865 Speaker 1: something like that. 296 00:12:17,865 --> 00:12:20,065 Speaker 2: That's another option or you could stitch it down. It's 297 00:12:20,065 --> 00:12:22,345 Speaker 2: just hard to get in there and stitch it. But 298 00:12:22,385 --> 00:12:24,425 Speaker 2: the hem tape saves lives. 299 00:12:24,545 --> 00:12:27,105 Speaker 1: I feel gosh, I just thought of it as hem tape, 300 00:12:27,185 --> 00:12:29,785 Speaker 1: Like you really do think outside the box so you 301 00:12:29,785 --> 00:12:32,065 Speaker 1: can do something with everything. It depends, I guess, on 302 00:12:32,225 --> 00:12:36,985 Speaker 1: your skill set or someone that you know. Okay, so 303 00:12:37,305 --> 00:12:39,185 Speaker 1: you're working on a new show or a new artist, 304 00:12:39,225 --> 00:12:41,905 Speaker 1: So how does it work from the start. Is it collaborative? 305 00:12:42,065 --> 00:12:44,265 Speaker 1: Do you pitch looks to them? Do they get to 306 00:12:44,265 --> 00:12:46,625 Speaker 1: tell you what they want? I'm guessing it depends on 307 00:12:46,665 --> 00:12:47,785 Speaker 1: the level of their. 308 00:12:47,585 --> 00:12:50,985 Speaker 2: Status hands on the talent as well. Like for example, 309 00:12:51,385 --> 00:12:53,905 Speaker 2: maths address one of the experts on the panel. She's 310 00:12:53,945 --> 00:12:55,225 Speaker 2: come to me saying she wants to go for more 311 00:12:55,265 --> 00:12:57,705 Speaker 2: of a tailored look this time around. She'd prefer a 312 00:12:57,705 --> 00:12:59,825 Speaker 2: bit of a sleeve, So we work. 313 00:12:59,705 --> 00:13:00,265 Speaker 1: On that regard. 314 00:13:00,345 --> 00:13:03,305 Speaker 2: I come back then I present her with a bunch 315 00:13:03,345 --> 00:13:05,025 Speaker 2: of looks in a mood board, and then I go 316 00:13:05,065 --> 00:13:06,585 Speaker 2: from there and the middle fitting and I always throw 317 00:13:06,625 --> 00:13:09,505 Speaker 2: in some random pieces that she wouldn't think to wear, 318 00:13:10,105 --> 00:13:12,425 Speaker 2: which is great as well. But then because you've got 319 00:13:12,465 --> 00:13:14,585 Speaker 2: the eye and I guess you don't have the maybe 320 00:13:14,585 --> 00:13:16,625 Speaker 2: body hang ups or whatever, and you just think, just 321 00:13:16,665 --> 00:13:16,985 Speaker 2: try it. 322 00:13:17,025 --> 00:13:18,465 Speaker 1: And oftentimes when they just try. 323 00:13:18,305 --> 00:13:20,705 Speaker 2: It, And that's why I say to everyone, I'm always like, 324 00:13:20,745 --> 00:13:22,785 Speaker 2: if you see something on the shelf, always try it on, 325 00:13:23,345 --> 00:13:23,985 Speaker 2: Always try. 326 00:13:23,905 --> 00:13:25,145 Speaker 1: It on if you're intrigued. 327 00:13:25,185 --> 00:13:27,025 Speaker 2: And then with music artists, like I work with another 328 00:13:27,105 --> 00:13:30,225 Speaker 2: music artist. With her, we get a creative depending on 329 00:13:30,265 --> 00:13:32,465 Speaker 2: what she's doing, we get a creative treatment. So I 330 00:13:32,465 --> 00:13:34,585 Speaker 2: try and see what colors are in the creative treatment. 331 00:13:34,705 --> 00:13:36,305 Speaker 2: And then I do a lot of customs for her 332 00:13:36,345 --> 00:13:38,985 Speaker 2: in particular. And is that for like performing on stage? 333 00:13:39,065 --> 00:13:41,905 Speaker 2: Forming on stage? But then also she does pieces to camera. Yeah, 334 00:13:42,025 --> 00:13:45,065 Speaker 2: a lot of media stuff, So depending on what it is, 335 00:13:45,105 --> 00:13:47,625 Speaker 2: a lot of that is styled. But then the performance pieces, 336 00:13:47,625 --> 00:13:50,585 Speaker 2: we try and do something different and customize pieces or 337 00:13:50,825 --> 00:13:51,625 Speaker 2: make fun scratch. 338 00:13:51,785 --> 00:13:54,545 Speaker 1: It's like you do dress up for adults. Yes, it's fun. 339 00:13:54,585 --> 00:13:56,385 Speaker 1: It's lots of fun. Oh my god, I love it. Okay, 340 00:13:56,705 --> 00:13:59,465 Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's collaborative, but I guess it depends 341 00:13:59,505 --> 00:14:02,625 Speaker 1: on what they're going to be doing. Yes, we always 342 00:14:02,705 --> 00:14:05,385 Speaker 1: think we look completely different when we look at videos 343 00:14:05,465 --> 00:14:09,265 Speaker 1: or photos of ourselves. Welcome to podcasts, now being Podcasts 344 00:14:09,865 --> 00:14:13,025 Speaker 1: are there's some industry tips for getting dressed for the camera. 345 00:14:13,065 --> 00:14:15,705 Speaker 1: I mean, look, most listeners are just doing daycare drop 346 00:14:15,745 --> 00:14:17,585 Speaker 1: off or going to the office or maybe going to 347 00:14:17,665 --> 00:14:21,105 Speaker 1: a lunch. But it's true in that, Like for me, 348 00:14:21,265 --> 00:14:22,945 Speaker 1: like my hair is short and dark now, and I 349 00:14:22,985 --> 00:14:25,185 Speaker 1: have so many black winter tops, but it just makes 350 00:14:25,225 --> 00:14:26,785 Speaker 1: me look like a bubble head. If I've got dark 351 00:14:26,825 --> 00:14:29,825 Speaker 1: hair and a black top, I look in photos and go, oh, 352 00:14:29,865 --> 00:14:31,905 Speaker 1: you can only just see my face. Like, do you 353 00:14:31,945 --> 00:14:34,385 Speaker 1: have tips for when you are perhaps making memories, you're 354 00:14:34,385 --> 00:14:36,105 Speaker 1: going to a lunch or a wedding or whatever. 355 00:14:36,385 --> 00:14:39,305 Speaker 2: I do always say color, Like I feel color lifts 356 00:14:39,385 --> 00:14:42,545 Speaker 2: anyone and if you look good, you feel good inside. 357 00:14:42,745 --> 00:14:45,065 Speaker 1: I trill. So I always do say color. 358 00:14:45,145 --> 00:14:48,225 Speaker 2: I'm not wearing color today, but normally I am like 359 00:14:48,265 --> 00:14:50,345 Speaker 2: a colorful ball, and I always feel really good. And 360 00:14:50,385 --> 00:14:52,305 Speaker 2: the amount of comments you get when you hear color, 361 00:14:52,345 --> 00:14:55,105 Speaker 2: I feel like I always get whenever I have color on. 362 00:14:55,265 --> 00:14:57,305 Speaker 2: Someone always comments on what I'm wearing, no matter what 363 00:14:57,345 --> 00:14:59,465 Speaker 2: it is. Yeah, so I feel colors are big. 364 00:14:59,785 --> 00:15:02,345 Speaker 1: It does lift your mood, I'm sure of it. Definitely. Okay, 365 00:15:02,385 --> 00:15:05,105 Speaker 1: So yeah, particularly if you're taking photos or whatever it is, 366 00:15:05,865 --> 00:15:06,505 Speaker 1: think about that. 367 00:15:06,865 --> 00:15:08,865 Speaker 2: And think about your background as well. So what are 368 00:15:08,905 --> 00:15:11,345 Speaker 2: you sitting in if you're sitting in a dark set, yeah, 369 00:15:11,545 --> 00:15:15,145 Speaker 2: dark room when you're doing these podcasts or whatever you're doing. Yeah, 370 00:15:15,385 --> 00:15:17,625 Speaker 2: just think about that. But then if it's very light, 371 00:15:17,785 --> 00:15:20,225 Speaker 2: then you can wear darker tones. To think of the 372 00:15:20,265 --> 00:15:22,185 Speaker 2: couch that you're sitting on. That's one thing on maths 373 00:15:22,505 --> 00:15:24,745 Speaker 2: we always have to see the couch that they're sitting on. 374 00:15:24,745 --> 00:15:26,945 Speaker 2: That that don't blend into the couch and the head 375 00:15:27,025 --> 00:15:27,465 Speaker 2: pretty much. 376 00:15:27,585 --> 00:15:29,265 Speaker 1: That's happened to me in the other studio. I mean, 377 00:15:29,425 --> 00:15:32,025 Speaker 1: we've got beautiful couches, but I was wearing like a 378 00:15:32,025 --> 00:15:33,905 Speaker 1: BEIGEI thing and I just looked like the couch with 379 00:15:33,985 --> 00:15:38,025 Speaker 1: the head. Oh okay, that's interesting. Okay. What's the biggest 380 00:15:38,065 --> 00:15:41,145 Speaker 1: backstage styling disaster you've seen and how did you fix it? 381 00:15:41,225 --> 00:15:43,865 Speaker 1: Was it Drake's fly? I mean that's pretty Yeah, it. 382 00:15:43,825 --> 00:15:46,065 Speaker 2: Probably would have been that, yeah, because he was about 383 00:15:46,105 --> 00:15:46,585 Speaker 2: to go on. 384 00:15:46,625 --> 00:15:48,985 Speaker 1: And the lot of like malfunctions. Yeah. 385 00:15:49,025 --> 00:15:51,985 Speaker 2: I was over in the UK with Pink and we're 386 00:15:52,025 --> 00:15:54,265 Speaker 2: doing a rehearsal. This wasn't live, It was like a 387 00:15:54,305 --> 00:15:56,665 Speaker 2: rehearsal and we had a new leotard on her and 388 00:15:56,665 --> 00:15:59,345 Speaker 2: it was when she bungee drops from the sky and 389 00:15:59,385 --> 00:16:02,985 Speaker 2: the zipper broke on her leotart and it was zipping 390 00:16:03,025 --> 00:16:06,585 Speaker 2: from it was from the center back of just above 391 00:16:06,585 --> 00:16:09,105 Speaker 2: her bottom to the neck. But it just she went 392 00:16:09,225 --> 00:16:13,065 Speaker 2: bungee up down and it justn't and they're like cut 393 00:16:13,225 --> 00:16:15,385 Speaker 2: and we literally went no. 394 00:16:15,625 --> 00:16:16,905 Speaker 1: She just kind of came forward. 395 00:16:16,905 --> 00:16:18,985 Speaker 2: But the next thing was she was twisting around, so 396 00:16:19,025 --> 00:16:21,225 Speaker 2: she just had to completely she was just bobbling up 397 00:16:21,265 --> 00:16:21,585 Speaker 2: and down. 398 00:16:21,705 --> 00:16:24,145 Speaker 1: You're literally like engineering a body seat or something like. 399 00:16:24,145 --> 00:16:24,665 Speaker 1: That's the thing. 400 00:16:24,665 --> 00:16:26,425 Speaker 2: And same with her with her mic packs because she 401 00:16:26,465 --> 00:16:28,585 Speaker 2: has to sing, her mic packs have to go on 402 00:16:28,625 --> 00:16:29,385 Speaker 2: a certain. 403 00:16:29,105 --> 00:16:31,705 Speaker 1: Spot on it kind of seal, and because she does 404 00:16:31,745 --> 00:16:34,425 Speaker 1: the silks as well, so it's it's working around that 405 00:16:34,545 --> 00:16:36,985 Speaker 1: is engineering ful artists are doing. Oh my god, we 406 00:16:37,025 --> 00:16:38,785 Speaker 1: occasionally do filming here. I have to have like a 407 00:16:38,825 --> 00:16:40,905 Speaker 1: mic pack at the back end lapel and I thought 408 00:16:40,905 --> 00:16:42,345 Speaker 1: that was hard. They're like put her on your bra 409 00:16:42,465 --> 00:16:44,225 Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's pulling my bra off. 410 00:16:44,505 --> 00:16:46,385 Speaker 2: And then on idol, like they've got two mic packs 411 00:16:46,425 --> 00:16:49,265 Speaker 2: because they've got a lapel mic so they can hear them. 412 00:16:49,305 --> 00:16:51,665 Speaker 2: And then they got the ears for singing and it's like, 413 00:16:51,705 --> 00:16:54,905 Speaker 2: how do we hide them so then they're not seen 414 00:16:54,945 --> 00:16:57,705 Speaker 2: and they like they've got a big hump on the. 415 00:16:57,665 --> 00:16:59,545 Speaker 1: Back of the head. Sometimes when I watch the Kardashians, 416 00:16:59,585 --> 00:17:01,065 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, they won't want to film the back 417 00:17:01,105 --> 00:17:02,385 Speaker 1: because it's just like this thing. Yeah. 418 00:17:02,425 --> 00:17:04,385 Speaker 2: But then some artists like the mic pack out because 419 00:17:04,385 --> 00:17:05,785 Speaker 2: then it's like it's real reality. 420 00:17:05,945 --> 00:17:08,345 Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like it's there. Yeah, so they prefer to 421 00:17:08,345 --> 00:17:10,345 Speaker 1: have it out. Oh my god. Yeah, I bet zippers 422 00:17:10,345 --> 00:17:13,745 Speaker 1: are the Bayer lights always zippers? And actually I'm just 423 00:17:13,785 --> 00:17:15,225 Speaker 1: have to ask you. I have a bus sippar. Is 424 00:17:15,225 --> 00:17:17,225 Speaker 1: it true that you can run a pencil along? It depends? 425 00:17:17,265 --> 00:17:17,945 Speaker 2: What is it? 426 00:17:18,025 --> 00:17:20,505 Speaker 1: Just not sliding? I don't know. A lead pencil will 427 00:17:20,545 --> 00:17:24,065 Speaker 1: make it. It's like a yeah, dual waxed candle as well. Yeah, 428 00:17:24,065 --> 00:17:26,945 Speaker 1: I can't wait wait time and do that. Okay. Aside 429 00:17:26,945 --> 00:17:29,305 Speaker 1: from celebrities, which is fascinating, God, I feel like you 430 00:17:29,305 --> 00:17:32,665 Speaker 1: could tell some stories. You also style everyday women, yes, 431 00:17:32,785 --> 00:17:35,145 Speaker 1: which is refreshing because we don't always want to wear 432 00:17:35,425 --> 00:17:37,985 Speaker 1: letards and sequence, but you do all shapes and sizes. 433 00:17:38,025 --> 00:17:40,705 Speaker 1: So what are some common stylings we all run into 434 00:17:40,785 --> 00:17:42,545 Speaker 1: or that your clients come to you with. 435 00:17:42,705 --> 00:17:45,305 Speaker 2: They want a basic like they want a rotating wardrobe, 436 00:17:45,345 --> 00:17:47,865 Speaker 2: so pretty much an interchangeable wardrobe that they can wear 437 00:17:47,905 --> 00:17:51,385 Speaker 2: the same pants with different tops, like have ten key pieces, 438 00:17:51,425 --> 00:17:53,905 Speaker 2: ten key looks that they so you're basically helping them 439 00:17:53,905 --> 00:17:56,465 Speaker 2: find that ten percent. Yeah, pretty much that they can wear, 440 00:17:56,665 --> 00:17:58,985 Speaker 2: whether to work, whether to a lunch, kids drop off, 441 00:17:59,145 --> 00:18:01,345 Speaker 2: or so forth. So it's a matter of finding funny 442 00:18:01,345 --> 00:18:03,745 Speaker 2: your colors as well, like finding what colors are good 443 00:18:03,785 --> 00:18:06,505 Speaker 2: for you, whether your warm colors, cool colors, and then 444 00:18:06,785 --> 00:18:10,665 Speaker 2: interchanging that interclothing. What part of the is most flattering 445 00:18:10,825 --> 00:18:13,305 Speaker 2: where we isolate the waist, it's always good too. With 446 00:18:13,425 --> 00:18:16,625 Speaker 2: proportions of body, you do one third two thirds, So 447 00:18:17,065 --> 00:18:19,305 Speaker 2: never cut yourself in half, So always one third at 448 00:18:19,345 --> 00:18:19,585 Speaker 2: the top. 449 00:18:19,705 --> 00:18:21,905 Speaker 1: So like, for example, high wasted pants, how that count 450 00:18:21,905 --> 00:18:23,385 Speaker 1: as the two thirds? Yeah, pretty much. 451 00:18:23,425 --> 00:18:25,945 Speaker 2: So just don't cut yourself in half because then you 452 00:18:25,985 --> 00:18:26,745 Speaker 2: look like a blob. 453 00:18:26,825 --> 00:18:28,745 Speaker 1: So it's clever no matter what. 454 00:18:28,865 --> 00:18:31,185 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, something you learn at college. This is going back. 455 00:18:31,305 --> 00:18:32,465 Speaker 2: I think I do do something. 456 00:18:32,785 --> 00:18:35,105 Speaker 1: I yeah, because I wear a lot of highway wasted. 457 00:18:35,705 --> 00:18:38,145 Speaker 1: But then I might do like a when winter a 458 00:18:38,145 --> 00:18:40,665 Speaker 1: maxi skit, but with a long knit. That's almost down there. 459 00:18:40,705 --> 00:18:42,425 Speaker 1: So that's my two thirds one third. 460 00:18:42,505 --> 00:18:45,225 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I try and work on those proportions because however, 461 00:18:45,305 --> 00:18:47,665 Speaker 2: your eye then can go there and you look longer, 462 00:18:47,985 --> 00:18:48,585 Speaker 2: is the way. 463 00:18:48,785 --> 00:18:49,065 Speaker 1: Wow. 464 00:18:49,785 --> 00:18:49,985 Speaker 2: Yeah. 465 00:18:50,025 --> 00:18:51,665 Speaker 1: And when they're trying to, you know, help you find 466 00:18:51,705 --> 00:18:53,585 Speaker 1: their colors, then do you kind of try and buy 467 00:18:53,625 --> 00:18:56,785 Speaker 1: in the same color family so that you're not trying 468 00:18:56,785 --> 00:18:58,745 Speaker 1: to mix like your reds with your green with your 469 00:18:58,745 --> 00:18:59,145 Speaker 1: cold bot. 470 00:18:59,545 --> 00:19:01,145 Speaker 2: So then you find the color family and then you 471 00:19:01,225 --> 00:19:03,065 Speaker 2: work in tones of that. So if it's a red, 472 00:19:03,105 --> 00:19:04,545 Speaker 2: then you go to your pink tones, then you go 473 00:19:04,585 --> 00:19:07,785 Speaker 2: to your orangengs. But you stay away from like, yeah. 474 00:19:07,465 --> 00:19:10,225 Speaker 1: Anything that won't match, because then you can't That's my problem. 475 00:19:10,305 --> 00:19:12,665 Speaker 1: I love too many things, but then I can't put 476 00:19:12,705 --> 00:19:16,345 Speaker 1: it all together. So for the everyday person, tailoring exists too. 477 00:19:16,905 --> 00:19:18,625 Speaker 1: We can do things ourselves. We can take them to 478 00:19:18,665 --> 00:19:20,905 Speaker 1: a tailor. What can that do for us? You know, 479 00:19:20,945 --> 00:19:23,305 Speaker 1: we've got a really great pair of affordable jeans. Is 480 00:19:23,345 --> 00:19:24,625 Speaker 1: it worth getting them tailored? 481 00:19:24,785 --> 00:19:26,905 Speaker 2: It is if they're a great gene and they fit you. 482 00:19:26,905 --> 00:19:28,865 Speaker 2: Because I find a lot of women have smaller waists 483 00:19:28,865 --> 00:19:31,185 Speaker 2: and bigger hips, so we always go upper size in 484 00:19:31,265 --> 00:19:33,825 Speaker 2: jeans or in pants, so we have to take in 485 00:19:33,945 --> 00:19:36,185 Speaker 2: the waist on the pant. I think it's an investment 486 00:19:36,425 --> 00:19:38,185 Speaker 2: rather than wearing a belt and having all that excess 487 00:19:38,185 --> 00:19:39,985 Speaker 2: fabric which will make you look thicker through the waist. 488 00:19:40,105 --> 00:19:42,545 Speaker 1: Yes, when you do, U ease like me all the 489 00:19:42,545 --> 00:19:44,865 Speaker 1: time you so, I think it's good. 490 00:19:44,865 --> 00:19:47,305 Speaker 2: And then always your hems, like I feel a hem 491 00:19:47,345 --> 00:19:49,505 Speaker 2: on a pant. Like you see all these girls walking 492 00:19:49,505 --> 00:19:51,025 Speaker 2: around their pants or either on the ground or the 493 00:19:51,065 --> 00:19:52,865 Speaker 2: two shorts, So I feel. 494 00:19:52,705 --> 00:19:55,065 Speaker 1: Because we want them to go with heels and flat. 495 00:19:54,905 --> 00:19:57,505 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, definitely, So it's it's like you can do 496 00:19:57,545 --> 00:19:59,625 Speaker 2: the cropped pant then with the heel. 497 00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:00,185 Speaker 1: Yeah. 498 00:20:00,225 --> 00:20:03,345 Speaker 2: But I just feel tailoring a garment can change your 499 00:20:03,425 --> 00:20:05,345 Speaker 2: life and change the whole way that you actually look. 500 00:20:05,545 --> 00:20:08,145 Speaker 1: And I think also because I've used to be of 501 00:20:08,145 --> 00:20:10,225 Speaker 1: the mentality it's affordable garment. I don't want to pay 502 00:20:10,225 --> 00:20:11,865 Speaker 1: to then get it tailored, but then to get at 503 00:20:11,905 --> 00:20:15,345 Speaker 1: tailored makes it look more expensive, fits me better, I'm 504 00:20:15,385 --> 00:20:17,505 Speaker 1: going to wear it more, so it's actually worth it. It's 505 00:20:17,385 --> 00:20:20,105 Speaker 1: actually worth it. Then having three pairs of affordable pants 506 00:20:20,225 --> 00:20:22,265 Speaker 1: that don't all fit you know, perfectly. 507 00:20:22,065 --> 00:20:24,705 Speaker 2: Most of way one and then invest them extra money. Yeah, 508 00:20:24,865 --> 00:20:29,185 Speaker 2: garment tailored. Okay, so obviously we can't clone you. I 509 00:20:29,225 --> 00:20:32,305 Speaker 2: wish we could. But how do we find a taylor? 510 00:20:32,345 --> 00:20:34,265 Speaker 1: You know there's those ones that's sort of the dry 511 00:20:34,305 --> 00:20:36,425 Speaker 1: cleaner that does a bit of tailoring. How do you 512 00:20:36,465 --> 00:20:37,905 Speaker 1: know if a Taylor's good or do you just give 513 00:20:37,905 --> 00:20:39,425 Speaker 1: it a go? You have to give it a go. 514 00:20:39,785 --> 00:20:42,545 Speaker 2: I know that there's all the little tailoring places in 515 00:20:42,585 --> 00:20:44,025 Speaker 2: the Westfield shopping centres. 516 00:20:44,705 --> 00:20:47,145 Speaker 1: They're quite expended. I mean it's fine, I will pay 517 00:20:47,145 --> 00:20:48,865 Speaker 1: for their expertise, but I had to have some pants 518 00:20:48,865 --> 00:20:50,705 Speaker 1: done next day recently. 519 00:20:51,225 --> 00:20:53,825 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, it's not cheap, but it 520 00:20:53,865 --> 00:20:56,025 Speaker 2: does take. But then if you can find, like I've 521 00:20:56,025 --> 00:20:59,145 Speaker 2: noticed on Facebook pages on the marketplace, the local Marcrolathes 522 00:20:59,145 --> 00:21:01,945 Speaker 2: people have gone, are there any seamstresses in the area, 523 00:21:02,025 --> 00:21:04,705 Speaker 2: So you might have mums sitting at home that yes, 524 00:21:04,785 --> 00:21:05,585 Speaker 2: to be able to sew. 525 00:21:05,985 --> 00:21:08,665 Speaker 1: My mum had that and on Wednesdays after schools we 526 00:21:08,705 --> 00:21:10,625 Speaker 1: would go and drop were to her house. We'd try 527 00:21:10,665 --> 00:21:13,785 Speaker 1: things on. Yes, so look on marketplace with a. 528 00:21:13,745 --> 00:21:16,505 Speaker 2: Marketplace because there's always somebody that can. So it's very 529 00:21:16,545 --> 00:21:19,625 Speaker 2: it's a dying art I feel now but there's somebody 530 00:21:19,665 --> 00:21:20,665 Speaker 2: that's sitting at home. 531 00:21:20,545 --> 00:21:21,825 Speaker 1: That's possibly got a baby. 532 00:21:22,105 --> 00:21:23,785 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they can tailor it. Like just I know 533 00:21:23,825 --> 00:21:25,985 Speaker 2: where my mum lives. I've seen some things on there. 534 00:21:26,025 --> 00:21:29,265 Speaker 2: Is there anyone in the area you've changed, Like I 535 00:21:29,345 --> 00:21:32,185 Speaker 2: know that the other places are quite expensive. Or there 536 00:21:32,265 --> 00:21:34,625 Speaker 2: is a little dry cleaner that does little hands on 537 00:21:34,665 --> 00:21:37,185 Speaker 2: the side which is not too expensive. So I would 538 00:21:37,185 --> 00:21:38,505 Speaker 2: have a look on market place. Just put a thing 539 00:21:38,585 --> 00:21:41,025 Speaker 2: up there saying is there anyone in the area. 540 00:21:40,745 --> 00:21:45,945 Speaker 1: That or like I'm in my local group on Facebook, 541 00:21:45,985 --> 00:21:46,625 Speaker 1: I could ask. 542 00:21:46,505 --> 00:21:50,785 Speaker 2: In there because I find too. Another thing is wedding alterations. 543 00:21:50,865 --> 00:21:53,305 Speaker 2: I do a lot of wedding alterations because I. 544 00:21:53,225 --> 00:21:55,025 Speaker 1: Find they charge a lot to do. They do. 545 00:21:55,105 --> 00:21:58,665 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do very random, but I find they charge 546 00:21:58,705 --> 00:21:59,905 Speaker 2: ten percent of what the dress costs. 547 00:21:59,945 --> 00:22:03,985 Speaker 1: I dress is fifteen thousand dollars. You say anything wedding related, 548 00:22:04,105 --> 00:22:06,345 Speaker 1: I look back. I saw a post again on Facebook 549 00:22:06,345 --> 00:22:08,505 Speaker 1: other day about the cost of getting the dresses dry cleaned, 550 00:22:08,505 --> 00:22:10,505 Speaker 1: and I forgot I did that part and luckily sold it. 551 00:22:10,545 --> 00:22:12,785 Speaker 1: But I outrageous. 552 00:22:12,065 --> 00:22:14,625 Speaker 2: Ridiculous, No's like, how can you charge fifteen hundred dollars 553 00:22:14,665 --> 00:22:15,625 Speaker 2: to get a hem taken up? 554 00:22:15,665 --> 00:22:19,025 Speaker 1: It's yeah, So I if you're paying fifteen thousand dollars 555 00:22:19,065 --> 00:22:20,305 Speaker 1: for a dress, you'd want to hope it fit's like 556 00:22:20,305 --> 00:22:22,225 Speaker 1: a good exactly. But a lot of these places now 557 00:22:22,265 --> 00:22:25,825 Speaker 1: outsource their alterations and they charge ten percent to what 558 00:22:25,865 --> 00:22:26,145 Speaker 1: it is. 559 00:22:26,265 --> 00:22:29,145 Speaker 2: So I think it's about shopping around, asking friends where 560 00:22:29,185 --> 00:22:33,625 Speaker 2: they've had things. Everyone's having yeah, and then the marketplace. 561 00:22:33,145 --> 00:22:34,825 Speaker 1: And what Still but like, obviously we can have a 562 00:22:34,905 --> 00:22:37,545 Speaker 1: pants taken up, but like, say we've got a blazer 563 00:22:37,785 --> 00:22:40,465 Speaker 1: that we really like the look of, Like can we 564 00:22:40,545 --> 00:22:41,825 Speaker 1: like get that tailored? 565 00:22:41,985 --> 00:22:43,305 Speaker 2: We can't get the tailor, so you can take like 566 00:22:43,465 --> 00:22:46,465 Speaker 2: just say it's a boxy blazer, taking the back seams, 567 00:22:46,465 --> 00:22:48,785 Speaker 2: which is quite a simple alteration. A lot of problems 568 00:22:48,985 --> 00:22:52,185 Speaker 2: people have too is the arms are too long, which they. 569 00:22:52,065 --> 00:22:53,185 Speaker 1: Always say it's very hard. 570 00:22:53,225 --> 00:22:55,345 Speaker 2: But if you lift it from the shoulder, don't lift 571 00:22:55,385 --> 00:22:56,825 Speaker 2: it where all the detail. 572 00:22:56,465 --> 00:22:58,465 Speaker 1: Is, yeah, where the beautiful buttons are. So the buttons. 573 00:22:58,505 --> 00:23:00,105 Speaker 2: Everyone tries to lift it from down there and then 574 00:23:00,145 --> 00:23:03,345 Speaker 2: you lose your buttons. But if it's a decent blazer 575 00:23:03,545 --> 00:23:07,465 Speaker 2: like still Wittery Zara, you'll be able to lift it 576 00:23:07,465 --> 00:23:09,465 Speaker 2: from the shoulder. Like I know I've altered some shit 577 00:23:09,505 --> 00:23:12,065 Speaker 2: now for one of my client and they leave enough 578 00:23:12,065 --> 00:23:14,145 Speaker 2: space in there to lift it from the shoulder right. 579 00:23:14,185 --> 00:23:16,105 Speaker 1: And when you say enough spaces, they're fabric or something. 580 00:23:16,105 --> 00:23:17,905 Speaker 2: There's fabric in there. So they leave a seam allowance 581 00:23:17,985 --> 00:23:19,945 Speaker 2: on the side which is like a four centimeter seam 582 00:23:19,945 --> 00:23:21,785 Speaker 2: allouance rather than a one point two five seamil out, 583 00:23:21,865 --> 00:23:23,425 Speaker 2: so you can take the shoulder out to bring it 584 00:23:23,545 --> 00:23:26,825 Speaker 2: rump and the lining all the lining all comes up. 585 00:23:26,865 --> 00:23:30,145 Speaker 2: So that's a much cheaper alteration than taking the buttons 586 00:23:30,185 --> 00:23:33,665 Speaker 2: off resetting the bags. So I would highly recommend. 587 00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:35,345 Speaker 1: That if there's a blazer that you absolutely love and 588 00:23:35,385 --> 00:23:37,185 Speaker 1: like maybe you want it more interest at the ways, yeah, you. 589 00:23:37,185 --> 00:23:39,545 Speaker 2: Can definitely take that in through the seams and you 590 00:23:39,585 --> 00:23:41,425 Speaker 2: can even take it up. It's a much more expensive 591 00:23:41,505 --> 00:23:44,145 Speaker 2: alteration lifting it up if you want it's shorter, But 592 00:23:44,185 --> 00:23:45,465 Speaker 2: if you just need a bit of fit in there 593 00:23:45,465 --> 00:23:47,465 Speaker 2: because it's too boxy, you take it through the side seams. 594 00:23:47,465 --> 00:23:49,905 Speaker 2: There's normally two darts down the center back that you 595 00:23:49,985 --> 00:23:52,025 Speaker 2: can just take it in and the smallest little two 596 00:23:52,025 --> 00:23:55,025 Speaker 2: centimeters on each side will really zip it in. 597 00:23:55,265 --> 00:23:58,425 Speaker 1: Okay. I have a friend who's a tailor that I 598 00:23:58,465 --> 00:24:00,185 Speaker 1: go to occasionally, but I don't want to think I 599 00:24:00,425 --> 00:24:02,705 Speaker 1: just go there all the time because she gives me 600 00:24:02,745 --> 00:24:04,265 Speaker 1: a good price. But the other day I had some 601 00:24:04,345 --> 00:24:06,465 Speaker 1: pants done and they were a balloon pant, not a 602 00:24:06,505 --> 00:24:08,185 Speaker 1: gene but a balloon pant. But I liked how they 603 00:24:08,185 --> 00:24:10,025 Speaker 1: went on me. But of course I have to get up. 604 00:24:10,065 --> 00:24:12,705 Speaker 1: So she did like something else, thinking or a little 605 00:24:12,785 --> 00:24:15,185 Speaker 1: tuck on the side. Yeah, it was so good. And 606 00:24:15,225 --> 00:24:17,385 Speaker 1: then she said, do you wear them really high waisted 607 00:24:17,505 --> 00:24:18,665 Speaker 1: or down there? And I was like, I don't know, 608 00:24:18,825 --> 00:24:20,705 Speaker 1: and so then she added another extra, just one of 609 00:24:20,745 --> 00:24:23,425 Speaker 1: those little clippy things so I can wear it a 610 00:24:23,465 --> 00:24:26,305 Speaker 1: bit higher or lower. That's great. So the two I 611 00:24:26,345 --> 00:24:28,825 Speaker 1: waited to wear it have known that that was a thing. Yeah. 612 00:24:28,865 --> 00:24:30,905 Speaker 1: It's like a little hook. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, 613 00:24:31,065 --> 00:24:32,225 Speaker 1: and if I wear it a bit whier, you can 614 00:24:32,265 --> 00:24:34,305 Speaker 1: see it. But it's like she used a black metal 615 00:24:34,345 --> 00:24:36,145 Speaker 1: on black pants. You can't even see it pants. Yeah, 616 00:24:36,145 --> 00:24:37,785 Speaker 1: that's such a good. So there's it's not just kidding 617 00:24:37,785 --> 00:24:39,785 Speaker 1: about your pants taken up. No, there's so much you 618 00:24:39,825 --> 00:24:42,625 Speaker 1: can do. Okay, oh my god, I want you to 619 00:24:42,625 --> 00:24:45,945 Speaker 1: go through my wardrobe. So talking on tailoring and starling 620 00:24:46,025 --> 00:24:48,505 Speaker 1: regular women, is there like a tip or something that 621 00:24:48,545 --> 00:24:50,745 Speaker 1: we all seem to get wrong, or a tailoring trick 622 00:24:50,865 --> 00:24:53,065 Speaker 1: or something that we could all benefit from. 623 00:24:53,385 --> 00:24:56,305 Speaker 2: I just think the one that gets everyone is the 624 00:24:56,345 --> 00:24:59,145 Speaker 2: waist on pants and then they fall down and then 625 00:24:59,185 --> 00:25:01,065 Speaker 2: it's sit appropriately Like God, did you look at my 626 00:25:01,065 --> 00:25:02,265 Speaker 2: pants when you walk to night down? 627 00:25:02,425 --> 00:25:05,425 Speaker 1: Well they are well yeah, anyway. 628 00:25:05,105 --> 00:25:07,105 Speaker 2: But I just feel that's one thing I just find 629 00:25:07,145 --> 00:25:10,625 Speaker 2: women were hippier, I feel, and have bigger. 630 00:25:10,305 --> 00:25:13,745 Speaker 1: Bottoms, yes, and a smaller waist waist, and so I 631 00:25:13,745 --> 00:25:15,625 Speaker 1: think that's a major one that people can benefit from, 632 00:25:15,745 --> 00:25:19,265 Speaker 1: is bring in the waist, even if it's just literally 633 00:25:19,265 --> 00:25:21,545 Speaker 1: two darts down the back. It's not like changing like 634 00:25:21,545 --> 00:25:24,185 Speaker 1: it's not cinching, and it's literally yeah, pulling it because 635 00:25:24,225 --> 00:25:25,745 Speaker 1: you know. Also then I put my phone in my pocket, 636 00:25:25,825 --> 00:25:27,905 Speaker 1: my work pass, and then and then my pants off, yes, 637 00:25:28,145 --> 00:25:30,065 Speaker 1: not off, but like off from where I want it 638 00:25:30,105 --> 00:25:33,185 Speaker 1: to see it exactly. Yes, Okay, I've never had a 639 00:25:33,225 --> 00:25:35,945 Speaker 1: pair of pants that fit probably well one also never 640 00:25:35,985 --> 00:25:37,385 Speaker 1: thought to do that. Yeah. 641 00:25:37,505 --> 00:25:39,785 Speaker 2: I just think it's like I sometimes I cheat and 642 00:25:39,825 --> 00:25:41,945 Speaker 2: I just do two darts down the back because as well, 643 00:25:41,985 --> 00:25:42,745 Speaker 2: women fluctuate. 644 00:25:42,785 --> 00:25:44,425 Speaker 1: I feel like we fluctuate away. So that's why I 645 00:25:44,425 --> 00:25:46,145 Speaker 1: think I'm scared to do it, because I'm like, well, 646 00:25:46,185 --> 00:25:48,305 Speaker 1: what if you know I've got endo and the week 647 00:25:48,345 --> 00:25:51,225 Speaker 1: for my period, I just want to die. And yeah, 648 00:25:51,345 --> 00:25:52,225 Speaker 1: but it's so subtle. 649 00:25:52,265 --> 00:25:54,425 Speaker 2: You can just do two little darts down the back 650 00:25:54,465 --> 00:25:57,305 Speaker 2: which take probably someone five seconds, so they shouldn't charge 651 00:25:57,305 --> 00:25:59,865 Speaker 2: you a fortune either, and then they can be easily 652 00:25:59,905 --> 00:26:01,705 Speaker 2: unpicked for them to come out. 653 00:26:01,785 --> 00:26:05,265 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm going to Literally, I'm gonna see 654 00:26:05,265 --> 00:26:06,785 Speaker 1: if I can do it myself. You probably can. 655 00:26:06,865 --> 00:26:08,385 Speaker 2: It's like you can even just fold it over at 656 00:26:08,385 --> 00:26:10,225 Speaker 2: the top and just catch it at the top like 657 00:26:10,585 --> 00:26:12,065 Speaker 2: two centimeters and that. 658 00:26:12,065 --> 00:26:13,905 Speaker 1: Will be enough to hold it up. And if you've 659 00:26:13,905 --> 00:26:15,945 Speaker 1: got a long top one like what you've got on nowadays, 660 00:26:16,425 --> 00:26:18,465 Speaker 1: the center back of it and then you can just 661 00:26:18,505 --> 00:26:20,465 Speaker 1: cut it open. You know, you spend time, you should 662 00:26:20,505 --> 00:26:24,025 Speaker 1: do some YouTube to tourist. One more question before bougie 663 00:26:24,025 --> 00:26:28,905 Speaker 1: and budget Life's expensive clothes are expensive? Do you in 664 00:26:28,945 --> 00:26:32,265 Speaker 1: your journey, either through dressing you know, people on idle 665 00:26:32,305 --> 00:26:35,945 Speaker 1: on maths or your real life customers have any recommendations 666 00:26:35,945 --> 00:26:39,265 Speaker 1: for looking expensive or looking tailored or just great places 667 00:26:39,305 --> 00:26:42,385 Speaker 1: that aren't exorbitantly expensive. 668 00:26:42,265 --> 00:26:44,825 Speaker 2: So I don't like to spend a lot of money 669 00:26:44,825 --> 00:26:48,025 Speaker 2: on clothes for yourself. For myself, cool, this is great 670 00:26:48,065 --> 00:26:50,625 Speaker 2: And because you can tailor, because I can tailor. And 671 00:26:50,705 --> 00:26:52,865 Speaker 2: if I see something, I see how to make it, 672 00:26:53,105 --> 00:26:55,625 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't think that's worth the. 673 00:26:55,625 --> 00:26:58,385 Speaker 1: Price, because you're like, that's not made. I invest in 674 00:26:58,425 --> 00:27:01,585 Speaker 1: a good piece. Probably every season I invest in a 675 00:27:01,625 --> 00:27:04,505 Speaker 1: good item, but as well, like I feel like your 676 00:27:04,785 --> 00:27:09,065 Speaker 1: Zara is doing great, I wouldn't say a great replicas 677 00:27:09,105 --> 00:27:12,625 Speaker 1: of design items. Chic is another one that people forget about, Like, 678 00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:14,865 Speaker 1: I just stop back into Chic too. They do great. 679 00:27:14,905 --> 00:27:17,265 Speaker 1: Tailoring they do is amazing. 680 00:27:17,305 --> 00:27:19,425 Speaker 2: The quality is great and the fit like they make 681 00:27:19,505 --> 00:27:21,705 Speaker 2: for like they don't make few typical size that girl. 682 00:27:21,705 --> 00:27:23,305 Speaker 2: They make for a girl with hips, make for girl 683 00:27:23,345 --> 00:27:26,585 Speaker 2: with boobs. Yeah, so I have into Cuba two now recently. 684 00:27:26,625 --> 00:27:29,705 Speaker 2: The quality is good and yeah quality it's great. It 685 00:27:29,785 --> 00:27:33,905 Speaker 2: fits my bits. Yeah, definitely those brands. But you don't 686 00:27:33,945 --> 00:27:35,785 Speaker 2: need to spend a fortune to look good like I 687 00:27:35,945 --> 00:27:38,065 Speaker 2: just like, even I've got friends that shop. 688 00:27:38,065 --> 00:27:39,225 Speaker 1: It came out. I looked at them and I'm like, 689 00:27:39,265 --> 00:27:41,345 Speaker 1: where ago came up? Quality may not. 690 00:27:41,345 --> 00:27:44,585 Speaker 2: Be as good, but they're still doing the styles. Honestly, 691 00:27:44,665 --> 00:27:47,585 Speaker 2: I know for women that like you can't afford it, 692 00:27:47,585 --> 00:27:49,825 Speaker 2: You've got kids, you've got school FeAs, you've got food, 693 00:27:49,945 --> 00:27:52,185 Speaker 2: and like you say, a lot of expensive brands like 694 00:27:52,225 --> 00:27:55,705 Speaker 2: they might they're like size six to fourteen and that's ridiculous. 695 00:27:55,745 --> 00:27:58,265 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh my god. That makes me feel 696 00:27:58,305 --> 00:28:00,385 Speaker 1: so good because I thought you I just assumed you know, 697 00:28:00,665 --> 00:28:01,705 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not. 698 00:28:02,825 --> 00:28:05,265 Speaker 2: If I see a piece, I'll invest I call an investment. 699 00:28:05,305 --> 00:28:07,105 Speaker 2: I'll invest in a good piece, but. 700 00:28:07,065 --> 00:28:09,545 Speaker 1: You're assessing it from a quality and work. 701 00:28:10,105 --> 00:28:11,625 Speaker 2: Yes, and if I can get long Jeopardy out of 702 00:28:11,665 --> 00:28:14,185 Speaker 2: two if it's not seasonal. Because I hate spending money 703 00:28:14,225 --> 00:28:15,585 Speaker 2: on pieces that I'm not going to be able to 704 00:28:15,625 --> 00:28:16,905 Speaker 2: wear for a few years, I love it. 705 00:28:16,945 --> 00:28:32,905 Speaker 1: I invest in a piece. It's very expensive, how old 706 00:28:32,905 --> 00:28:37,505 Speaker 1: you are these percent That brings us to bougie and budget, 707 00:28:37,545 --> 00:28:40,065 Speaker 1: because I want you to start with your bougie and 708 00:28:40,105 --> 00:28:42,865 Speaker 1: the story behind it. My bougie. 709 00:28:42,945 --> 00:28:47,105 Speaker 2: I bought a Camilla Mark trench. It's not it's expensive, 710 00:28:47,105 --> 00:28:48,265 Speaker 2: but it's not. It's expensive for. 711 00:28:48,265 --> 00:28:51,025 Speaker 1: A trench I feel, but it's an investment. It's an investment. 712 00:28:51,145 --> 00:28:51,785 Speaker 1: It's timeless. 713 00:28:51,825 --> 00:28:54,825 Speaker 2: It's a black trench that's classic that they've done for 714 00:28:54,905 --> 00:28:56,865 Speaker 2: I think the last five years, and I've been seeing 715 00:28:56,905 --> 00:28:59,345 Speaker 2: it and I had one from Zara, I had one 716 00:28:59,345 --> 00:29:01,785 Speaker 2: from coz but I just love the Camilla and Mark 717 00:29:01,905 --> 00:29:04,985 Speaker 2: tnch So I invested in that piece and it's timeless, 718 00:29:05,065 --> 00:29:07,465 Speaker 2: and I have to tailor it. No, I went down 719 00:29:07,465 --> 00:29:10,345 Speaker 2: to size because it was a good a bit. I 720 00:29:10,425 --> 00:29:12,065 Speaker 2: can still fit a jump make sure I could still 721 00:29:12,105 --> 00:29:14,745 Speaker 2: fit Nick down underneath it. But I went down a 722 00:29:14,865 --> 00:29:16,905 Speaker 2: size because I am shorter. 723 00:29:17,225 --> 00:29:20,985 Speaker 1: So they're quite oversized, quite oversized. They're generous sizing, but 724 00:29:21,025 --> 00:29:24,425 Speaker 1: then they've got the oversized look, so you can. Yeah, 725 00:29:24,465 --> 00:29:26,785 Speaker 1: so I went down size for that. Well that's it, 726 00:29:26,905 --> 00:29:30,665 Speaker 1: Like that's sort of tailing. Ignore the label and just 727 00:29:30,705 --> 00:29:31,305 Speaker 1: try them on. 728 00:29:31,585 --> 00:29:33,225 Speaker 2: So I just, yeah, I don't look at with me 729 00:29:33,305 --> 00:29:35,505 Speaker 2: when I dress myself, I don't look at the sizes 730 00:29:35,505 --> 00:29:36,705 Speaker 2: on things I wear. 731 00:29:36,745 --> 00:29:39,305 Speaker 1: What fits my body. Yeah. May a lot of people 732 00:29:39,305 --> 00:29:41,145 Speaker 1: are driven by the label on the clothing, but I 733 00:29:41,225 --> 00:29:43,745 Speaker 1: think particularly when you're online shopping, but sometimes you know, 734 00:29:43,825 --> 00:29:45,385 Speaker 1: that's why when I can get to the stores, I 735 00:29:45,425 --> 00:29:46,865 Speaker 1: love it because I'll grab a few bunch of things 736 00:29:46,905 --> 00:29:49,345 Speaker 1: I like oversized, but yeah, I just go oh, and 737 00:29:49,385 --> 00:29:52,225 Speaker 1: that's kind of the size is a byproduct, but I try. Yeah, 738 00:29:52,225 --> 00:29:55,625 Speaker 1: it's hard on. Okay, my bougie is kind of a tip. 739 00:29:55,705 --> 00:29:58,385 Speaker 1: So I've got two options. And this is for my 740 00:29:58,465 --> 00:30:02,225 Speaker 1: tall girls because Stacey here at Momomea, she is amazing 741 00:30:02,265 --> 00:30:04,785 Speaker 1: and she's tall and she's always saying, Lee, help me 742 00:30:04,985 --> 00:30:08,585 Speaker 1: pants help. Whereas short girls we have to get up hands, 743 00:30:08,625 --> 00:30:10,945 Speaker 1: second up, but at least all the fit us. So 744 00:30:11,785 --> 00:30:14,985 Speaker 1: I've brought two styles of this jeans and a tip there. 745 00:30:15,025 --> 00:30:17,545 Speaker 1: I bought a Kmart version. It is the Kmart cuff 746 00:30:17,625 --> 00:30:21,065 Speaker 1: hem jean. They're thirty dollars or there's a Cause version 747 00:30:21,065 --> 00:30:23,025 Speaker 1: that's much more expensive. But you know how that like 748 00:30:23,185 --> 00:30:25,665 Speaker 1: wide leg. They're usually quite an indigo color, and then 749 00:30:25,705 --> 00:30:28,465 Speaker 1: it's a cuff like cuffed up so you can take 750 00:30:28,465 --> 00:30:30,425 Speaker 1: the hem down. Yes, most of them, I mean, obviously 751 00:30:30,505 --> 00:30:32,185 Speaker 1: check before you buy back. Most of them are full 752 00:30:32,265 --> 00:30:36,905 Speaker 1: fold of denim, and I've seen my tall friends then 753 00:30:36,985 --> 00:30:39,305 Speaker 1: just unpick it. That's perfect. And then they've got long 754 00:30:39,385 --> 00:30:43,145 Speaker 1: jeans because oftentimes the long brands are really expensive. And 755 00:30:43,225 --> 00:30:45,225 Speaker 1: like we say, you know, we might want to get 756 00:30:45,225 --> 00:30:48,545 Speaker 1: the Kmart one and you uncuff it, so I thought 757 00:30:48,585 --> 00:30:50,425 Speaker 1: I would share that for my tall girls that it's 758 00:30:50,505 --> 00:30:53,625 Speaker 1: kind of a bit of DIY tailoring because it'll still 759 00:30:53,665 --> 00:30:56,665 Speaker 1: be full length but cuffed. But then if you well 760 00:30:56,705 --> 00:30:58,945 Speaker 1: on I guess at an average hype person, but then if 761 00:30:58,985 --> 00:31:00,865 Speaker 1: you just undo it, you've got long pants. That's such 762 00:31:00,865 --> 00:31:03,265 Speaker 1: a great idea, that's clean. I thought I should pay 763 00:31:03,305 --> 00:31:05,385 Speaker 1: it back because I'm always winging about getting things up. 764 00:31:05,745 --> 00:31:08,625 Speaker 1: Take caken up. What's your budget budget? 765 00:31:08,825 --> 00:31:11,105 Speaker 2: I went for a trench because I. 766 00:31:11,105 --> 00:31:12,705 Speaker 1: Was thought, oh, you've got your black teach. 767 00:31:12,705 --> 00:31:13,905 Speaker 2: It got my black one. But then there was a 768 00:31:13,905 --> 00:31:15,265 Speaker 2: great one at Zara and it was on sale. It 769 00:31:15,305 --> 00:31:17,145 Speaker 2: was like one hundred and nineteen dollars. I think it's 770 00:31:17,145 --> 00:31:19,745 Speaker 2: still online now. But that one I had to take 771 00:31:19,745 --> 00:31:21,745 Speaker 2: the HEM up, so I didn't mind because I hadn't 772 00:31:21,745 --> 00:31:23,585 Speaker 2: invested so much money in it. Yeah, I was quite 773 00:31:23,625 --> 00:31:25,505 Speaker 2: happy to take the hem up because it did come 774 00:31:25,545 --> 00:31:26,025 Speaker 2: to the ground. 775 00:31:26,065 --> 00:31:30,465 Speaker 1: So people that aren't super tall can even hem coats 776 00:31:30,505 --> 00:31:31,585 Speaker 1: like I never thought of. 777 00:31:31,585 --> 00:31:34,345 Speaker 2: Can definitely, and you can like you can do it properly, 778 00:31:34,425 --> 00:31:36,025 Speaker 2: like you can get a proper tailor to do it. 779 00:31:36,065 --> 00:31:38,265 Speaker 1: But then if it's you can just turn it up and. 780 00:31:38,265 --> 00:31:40,585 Speaker 2: Literally slip stitch it the whole way, like nobody sees 781 00:31:40,625 --> 00:31:42,785 Speaker 2: the inside of the garden. Everyone if you can do 782 00:31:42,825 --> 00:31:44,465 Speaker 2: a basic stitch, you can sew a button on, you 783 00:31:44,465 --> 00:31:46,145 Speaker 2: can do a basic m just flip. 784 00:31:46,265 --> 00:31:48,665 Speaker 1: Everyone can learn to do Everyone can do a basic stitch. 785 00:31:48,825 --> 00:31:51,905 Speaker 1: So I did it properly, but I have in the past. 786 00:31:51,945 --> 00:31:56,505 Speaker 1: You've done a quick version. Oh took up a trench. Yeah, 787 00:31:56,625 --> 00:31:59,745 Speaker 1: that's also clever. All right. My budget again is kind 788 00:31:59,745 --> 00:32:01,185 Speaker 1: of a bit general, but it's something that I did 789 00:32:01,225 --> 00:32:03,465 Speaker 1: the other day, which I loved. I have a bunch 790 00:32:03,465 --> 00:32:06,905 Speaker 1: of boxy blazers and I I mean, I have a 791 00:32:06,905 --> 00:32:08,945 Speaker 1: bunch of everything. But then I'm really into my barrel 792 00:32:08,945 --> 00:32:10,385 Speaker 1: eggs at the moment, and I put on a boxy 793 00:32:10,425 --> 00:32:11,705 Speaker 1: blazer and I was like, oh, this is a bit 794 00:32:11,785 --> 00:32:14,385 Speaker 1: much too much. I was overwhem by too much fabric. 795 00:32:15,625 --> 00:32:17,505 Speaker 1: I grabbed one of my husband's tie so it was 796 00:32:17,505 --> 00:32:21,105 Speaker 1: a navy blazer. I grabbed one of my husband's ties. Sorry, honey, 797 00:32:21,105 --> 00:32:23,385 Speaker 1: you're probably stalking for it, and I kind of did 798 00:32:23,385 --> 00:32:26,025 Speaker 1: a cool tie thing and cinched it in. That's such 799 00:32:26,025 --> 00:32:28,225 Speaker 1: a great It looks so cool. So now I've taken 800 00:32:28,225 --> 00:32:30,825 Speaker 1: his burgundy he's black. He doesn't have a beige tie. 801 00:32:30,865 --> 00:32:32,705 Speaker 1: I guess beige is not that popular. But go to 802 00:32:32,745 --> 00:32:34,665 Speaker 1: a thrift store and buy men's ties if you want 803 00:32:34,705 --> 00:32:37,185 Speaker 1: to sinch something in. I mean I could have used 804 00:32:37,225 --> 00:32:40,185 Speaker 1: a regular I guess leather belt. But also I just 805 00:32:40,225 --> 00:32:42,625 Speaker 1: wanted to I wanted to stop it exactly where I 806 00:32:42,625 --> 00:32:44,185 Speaker 1: wanted to stop, and I wanted it to not make 807 00:32:44,225 --> 00:32:46,545 Speaker 1: too much statement. So because it was a fabric h 808 00:32:46,945 --> 00:32:50,545 Speaker 1: it kind of just didn't really you couldn't see it much, 809 00:32:50,585 --> 00:32:52,305 Speaker 1: but it gave me a good sinch. Oh, that's such 810 00:32:52,345 --> 00:32:54,985 Speaker 1: a good idea, and that's poper color if you've got Yeah, 811 00:32:54,985 --> 00:32:56,785 Speaker 1: well I was thinking, well, I mean, I'm scared of color, 812 00:32:56,825 --> 00:32:58,665 Speaker 1: but if I could do a cool contrast, like I 813 00:32:58,785 --> 00:33:00,505 Speaker 1: was thinking, I could do the navy tie with a 814 00:33:00,585 --> 00:33:03,105 Speaker 1: black blazer, Yeah, that would be great, risky and it's 815 00:33:03,105 --> 00:33:04,865 Speaker 1: a nice You've got the sin edge and then you've 816 00:33:04,865 --> 00:33:07,145 Speaker 1: got the white es and he had a few of 817 00:33:07,145 --> 00:33:08,745 Speaker 1: the needed ones. And obviously fashion at the moment a 818 00:33:08,745 --> 00:33:11,345 Speaker 1: lot of women are wearing ties, but that's another way 819 00:33:11,345 --> 00:33:12,905 Speaker 1: to wear it. It's just kind of sinch something in, 820 00:33:12,985 --> 00:33:14,985 Speaker 1: especially if it's a blazer or something that's a bit 821 00:33:15,025 --> 00:33:18,825 Speaker 1: too oversized with the proportions. Do you like my tailoring? 822 00:33:18,905 --> 00:33:21,385 Speaker 1: I like that idea. Thank you my hiring without Yeah, 823 00:33:21,385 --> 00:33:24,345 Speaker 1: definitely next time you need to do dregs. If I'm there, 824 00:33:24,865 --> 00:33:29,585 Speaker 1: you're phenomenal. Congratulations on all your success and all your skills. 825 00:33:29,625 --> 00:33:32,345 Speaker 1: Like if I were you, I'd be like AI sucked 826 00:33:32,385 --> 00:33:34,305 Speaker 1: in everyone. It's gonna take everyone's jobs, but they can't 827 00:33:34,305 --> 00:33:37,305 Speaker 1: take your flow. They can't take man. Thank you so 828 00:33:37,425 --> 00:33:40,385 Speaker 1: much for listening or watching. 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