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Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 1: one way. So this is the platform to hear and

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Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives They adore,

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Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly. The best and worst day

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Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of seizing your yea. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned

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Speaker 1: funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels to co found

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Speaker 1: Matcha Maiden and matcha Milk Bark Sez the Ya is

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Speaker 1: a series of conversations on finding a life you love

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Speaker 1: and exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along

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Speaker 1: the way. Hi Film, Welcome to our third anniversary efforts

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited. Congratulations. I can't like I when you said.

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Speaker 1: That year the other day, I was like, no, me too,

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Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, it's our two year anniversary.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's really kind. And I know you're only saying

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Speaker 1: this neighborhood. It has brought me so much joy, and

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Speaker 2: Do you remember the first before you sat your podcast

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Speaker 2: shown to be really great about the whole society and everyone.

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00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: Everyone's been able to adapt to change really quickly and

438
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: really well, although it's kind of like we've been forced

439
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,959
Speaker 2: to do it, but at the same time, we've all

440
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: coked really well, like we've done two years of this,

441
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 2: which is testament to our ability to be able to

442
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,239
Speaker 2: change and respond and be reactive as much as we can.

443
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 2: I think this has been really hard to be proactive

444
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 2: about because there's so much uncertainty. Because normally I'm like, yeah,

445
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: I love being proactive, like you know, organized things before

446
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 2: the matter, you know, and get prepared and you know,

447
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 2: but this one you literally can't prepare for because nobody

448
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: knows what's going to happen the next day. No one

449
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: knows what strength is going to come. So everyone's been

450
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 2: really great. I think it's been like seeing the cafes,

451
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: for example, be really innovative on how to be sustainable

452
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 2: as a business, to see how zoom and online things

453
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: have become a huge part of life and work and efficiency.

454
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: To see, Yeah, it's been really cool. I think adaptable

455
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 2: is a good one, good decision.

456
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: So your answer was basically what she said, Well, pretty much,

457
00:22:53,960 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 1: but you don't have okay for me is relationships. I

458
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: think it's been one of those times of really feeling

459
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: the people that you miss when you don't get to

460
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: see them all the time, and also maybe noticing the

461
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: people that you don't or the routines that you don't,

462
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: but kind of getting a bit more clarity on which

463
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: things you were doing out of habit or which relationships

464
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: you were keeping out of habit, and which ones really

465
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: contribute so much to your joy and well being that

466
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 1: when you don't have them, you miss them. That's been

467
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: really clarifying for me. It's also been really interesting to

468
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: see how as you get older. I know this sounds

469
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: so like as you get out at every decade, oh

470
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: my god, like I'm such an old lady. But really

471
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: you don't need as many people as I thought I

472
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: did when I was younger. I've had like a lot

473
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: deeper friendships, but less of them, and I've really missed those,

474
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: But those huge, big events, I really haven't missed those

475
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: as much. And finding new ways to foster those relationships

476
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: without being able to see each other has been weird, hard,

477
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: but also really fun like zoom trivia and us like

478
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: doing like we used to. Literally you lived here for

479
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: months and so much of our friendship is travel and

480
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: spontaneity and we've had to like figure out ways to

481
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: you know, do fun stuff. And yeah, relationships I think

482
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: has been a big area of change, but growth.

483
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So my word is similar to your adaptable word

484
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: in that it's so cliche, but it's just the right

485
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: word for it. Are you ready? It's actually a good

486
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: one this time. Resilient.

487
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm such a good one.

488
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: I know, cut deep, resilience, massive, huge like for us,

489
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: Like I said, you know, on the back of my slung.

490
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: It's been a long ride, and I respect so much

491
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: all of the small businesses that have pushed through for

492
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: this time. I could not igin owning or running a

493
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: physical store or cafe or restaurant, And every time we

494
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: go into lockdown, my heart breaks for them, just because

495
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: I think, obviously we're all affected. But if you break

496
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: it down, there's cafes and stuff had to figure out

497
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: their food, like their food wastage, that stuff that's ordered

498
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: weeks in advance, and you know if you get told

499
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: the day of that the next day and you're in lockdown,

500
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: what are you meant to do with all of that?

501
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: Like obviously there's takeaway, but not nearly to the same value.

502
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: Is there enough enough orders to make it worthwhile? And

503
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: things like that, So all our little back end things,

504
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: and I think small business owners had been and shows

505
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 2: such huge resilience to keep going and to keep the

506
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: businesses that they love and they're passionate about alive, even

507
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: though for five out of six lockdowns we were like

508
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: is there any light to the end of the tunnel?

509
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: Like is there is? This just going to be it

510
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: for a very very long time. So I think resilience

511
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 2: in small businesses has been incredible. And then obviously resilience

512
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: within my fallow healthcare workers just keep going has been

513
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: really admirable, I think. So that's my word of choice.

514
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's such a good one. I really love it.

515
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 1: Bim Okay, we've got another a Oh my god, there's

516
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: so many.

517
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: They came up. We're starting with a a bit daunting.

518
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: My god, so slow, so long? Do you know Shlongman's penis?

519
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm just checking that you know that because you keep

520
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: saying it really late.

521
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: I did not know that.

522
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you, to be honest. I couldn't. I

523
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: couldn't say yeah. So my letter A is hmmm two.

524
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: This is kind of a double answer. They kind of related.

525
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: So acceptance and awareness. I've really learned all the words

526
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: possible this way, I said I'd go first, So really

527
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: accepting the things you can't change, because I spend a

528
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: lot of energy and worry on things that really I

529
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: actually have no control over. In which case it's like,

530
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: if you know there are things you can change, so

531
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: worry about those. You've only got a certain amount of

532
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: emotional energy, so don't try it. Like if once you're

533
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: in lockdown, there's really nothing you can do about it,

534
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: as shit as it is or as hard as it is,

535
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: like the quickest thing you can do is just learn

536
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: to accept it, but then be aware of how to

537
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: adapt to it as quickly as you can. And then

538
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: awareness comes into that because one of the things that

539
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: comes with speed and going too fast is that you

540
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: don't have time to actually listen to what your body's

541
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: saying or what your mind is saying. And I've been

542
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: able to notice much more how and be more aware

543
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: of like what does feel good and what doesn't, Like

544
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: I've actually had time to listen and like this weekend,

545
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: you know what feels good. Be aware enough to know

546
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: that you don't want to rush back out you don't

547
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: actually feel like doing that. So there's so many things

548
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: I do out of habit or out of just because

549
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: I think I should, and I don't even check like

550
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: do I actually want to do that or do I

551
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: actually feel like that today. So being more aware and

552
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: then accepting those like that state of affairs or state

553
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: of emotions has been like a really big, really big learning.

554
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: And also that when you're emotionally just feeling crap or

555
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: you're really anxious or just you know, I would always

556
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: push through before, and now I've realized that's just so

557
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: not productive, really unkind to yourself. Accepting that you feel

558
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: like that and making a bit of space around it

559
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: is so important.

560
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: Oh that's good one. Well, so you use adaptable a

561
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: lot in that and just saying you just read excly

562
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: English police or something. But anyway, my one is this

563
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: is just a word that I think of when I

564
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: think back about our lockdown time, like it's another hyphenated word, sorry,

565
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: anxiety field. I think, yeah, I think we were in

566
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: this like a tumultuous ride of just up and downness

567
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: of you know, one week being feeling really good about

568
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: the prospect of things and then the next day being

569
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: so anxious about what's going to come next and if

570
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: we're ever going to survive, we'll get through. And I think, yeah,

571
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: it's probably driven a lot of people's anxiety, Like it's

572
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: made it a lot worse to people that already suffer

573
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: from pretty bad, debilitating anxiety. And then I think for

574
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: others as well, I think it's brought upon maybe a

575
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: lot more anxious feelings. Like even even I think out

576
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: of lockdown, I knew a lot of people that were

577
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: really anxious just to get out, you know, like the

578
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: thought of it and the sound of it sounds really exciting,

579
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: but the actual execution of going out with a bunch

580
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: of friends which drinks, brings people a lot of anxiety

581
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: to do. And like you and I as well, you know,

582
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: like every second week, every third week, you're in. Anxiety

583
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: is kind of you know, up and then down in

584
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: and up and then down with it, And it's been

585
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: really hard to find triggers and to stabilize it, just

586
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: because it's all the stuff that you would do to

587
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: balance it out you can't do, like go see your friends,

588
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: or go travel or go for a road trip and

589
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: things like that that we've found that really feels our

590
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: soul we could do. So Yeah, I think it would

591
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: be a miss for us to say that it was

592
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: also be staying from a mental health standpoint, But I

593
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: think anxiety is definitely something that I think about when

594
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: I think about the last two years, a very anxiety field.

595
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. And I even last night we meant to

596
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: record this after our big day out and I just

597
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: found it so so like it filled my cup so

598
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: much to spend time together. But also because our threshold

599
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: for energy is so much lower because we're not used

600
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: to being Yeah, and I was really anxious last night,

601
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: like just because I hadn't used that much energy in

602
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,959
Speaker 1: so long. Like even being at a cafe was kind

603
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: of like, oh my god, there's so many people around,

604
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: so I think, yeah, being really gentle, do.

605
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: You know, weirdly, I just when I started the cafe,

606
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: I was like, do you know, I don't feel like

607
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: a sense of oh, we're at a cafe. I just

608
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: kind of felt like it was normal. It was like

609
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: it didn't feel like this big first time at a

610
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: cafe thing. But I don't know what it will take

611
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: for me to be like, Okay, this is something I

612
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: haven't done for a long time.

613
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: I think for me it will be at an airport,

614
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: will be like what I'm.

615
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: Dying to go to an airport, even if it just

616
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: like just just just stand there for an hour. I

617
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: just I love airports honestly.

618
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: Just to look at the baggage claim going around around.

619
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then just look at the morning

620
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: then leave. Like you know, what will be the like

621
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: the moment where you like, you genuinely feel like it's

622
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: like something's changes when you can just walk into your

623
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: friend's house. Oh yeah, like is this lawful?

624
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

625
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: I just like I love being at people's houses and

626
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: my friend's houses and having dinner and making dinner and

627
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: hanging out and watching TV and leaving whatever.

628
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, like home gatherings will be really lovely.

629
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, sorry, now what are we at h h.

630
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so my first one is hairy and that

631
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: needs no explanation, but I feel like that's the one

632
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: that sums up a lot of our experiences. Yeah, But

633
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: the other one is heroes, And particularly after our episode

634
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: dedicated to the frontline workers and healthcare workers who have

635
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 1: just been Oh my god, that little gift pack sending

636
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: out like mail out thing we did was just filled

637
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: my heart so much. The businesses have got on board,

638
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: the yaborhood members who sent packages to other people who

639
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: had been nominated like it was just so beautiful. And

640
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure that was less than one percent or point

641
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: oh one percent of the story out there of people

642
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: who have been absolute heroes through this entire time, without complaining,

643
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: without needing recognition, without any kind of profile to spread

644
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: the word of how hard it's been, you know, the

645
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: silent pandemic that's been faced by all the workers who

646
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: have been keeping the system going, including yourself. I think

647
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: heroes is something that really sums up how people have

648
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: shown up and exceeded all expectations over the past.

649
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: A little while good one bam. Hero dislike the word

650
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: diligence perfect okay h for me, H is also on

651
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: the back of hero I think there's been a lot

652
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: of like people that you wouldn't have automatically thought were

653
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: heroes as heroes, you know what I mean, he would

654
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: have kids. It's a very like not her role week job,

655
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: but it's you kind of would fall into the category of,

656
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: you know, being like a hero. There's been so many

657
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: other amazing people that have studied initiatives that are so

658
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: awesome throughout this whole lockdown, and there's a new appreciation

659
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: with all types of teachers, for example, always been awesome,

660
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: but man, oh my goodness, seeking like students I presume

661
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: for two years is nuts.

662
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how many of them.

663
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't be able to in the start to

664
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: be like what would you do to like engage students,

665
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: which is already an issue in a classroom, to keep

666
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: people engaged, to have new kind of homework and new

667
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: ways of teaching and digit doing online you know, marking

668
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: papers and like not getting the physical submissions. I don't,

669
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: I don't, but yes, the lot of Yeah, anyway, my word,

670
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: first I was gonna say hemorrhoid, but I thought it

671
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: was a bit inappropriate.

672
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: So on the topic of health and it's giving health

673
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: advice for hemorrhoids. It's your beauty channel. Do you have

674
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 1: a cream to recommend them?

675
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: I'll tell you later. It's a little bit excit.

676
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: This should be behind your paywall.

677
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: Oh god, Okay, So my first choice is hemorrhoid. My

678
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: second choice is kind of sounds a little bit like

679
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: a bit silly but happy. Actually, despite all of the

680
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: sadness and and the impact on small businesses and people's

681
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: mental health and hospital and healthcare and kind of everyone

682
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: has been affected, I still find like my personal experience

683
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: has been largely happy, mainly because I live with my family,

684
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: which has been an absolute saving grace. I realized that's

685
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: a really lucky thing to have been able to do.

686
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people's sadness came from

687
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 2: not being with their family, so this is like a

688
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: very personal thing that I've found that there's been a

689
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: lot of happiness within our family. I've done a lot

690
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: of games nights and a lot of karaoke and Jui,

691
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: which has been so nice, and a lot of laughter.

692
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: So I yeah, honestly, I have been so so so

693
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 2: lucky that coming home for me is a really happy environment.

694
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: So that's my page.

695
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: Oh, that's really lovely. That's so nice, bim. I can't

696
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: believe you have another A. This is a bit of

697
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: a disaster, so aver Ange. I think is animals because

698
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: Paul has been like one of the aforementioned heroes of

699
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: the pandemic. As you know, Nick's been away for so

700
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: much of this time, And I guess the other A

701
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: is alone, like spending so much time alone compared to

702
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: how much time I don't usually spend alone. And particularly

703
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: in the first year of Lockdown, we were like in

704
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: each other's faces twenty four seven, which was also amazing,

705
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: like we don't sort of struggle with that kind of

706
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, being around each other all the time. But

707
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 1: it's also really good to have alone time. But also

708
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: in moments of really high anxiety, I found just being

709
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: with Paul like so lovely. He's just they just bring

710
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: so much joy. They're so happy to see you. Their

711
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: worlds are very simple, like if I'm about to have

712
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: a panic attack, he'll come over before I know I'm

713
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: going to have one. He's just been really He loves Instagram,

714
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 1: he loves making reels. He's made a lot of people laugh,

715
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, he loves his costumes, like we have a

716
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: cuddle every like all day, every day, we cuddle all night,

717
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: Like he's just he's just the best. So animals, I

718
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: think also realizing like, yeah, they're just truly a man's

719
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: best friend. Yeah, and animal videos have brought me so

720
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: much joy.

721
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: Also, Okay, my a word, My first A word is

722
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: obviously everyone's thinking about this one. Antibodies, we were all

723
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: thinking it.

724
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: I saved it for you.

725
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: I know, one of those cliche words, you know, how

726
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: did you find it?

727
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Lockdown antibodies? I always always no.

728
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: I think appreciative is probably one of the words. Appreciative.

729
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

730
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, of just all that you have. Like I said,

731
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: I think I've realized my privilege in this time to

732
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: have what I have, and to have a job that

733
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: I have, and to continue to work and go running

734
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: with my friends still and ley've really close to work

735
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: and my five K was always really nice. So yeah,

736
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: really appreciative of all of that and the support that

737
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: I've personally received from my friends.

738
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: And oh that's really lovely. I kind of need. I

739
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: kind of don't have any ND words, but then I

740
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: just sort of one. I really had to look it up.

741
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: I was like Wow, I really have no vocabulary. I

742
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: think my end is never. There are so many things

743
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: I used to use the word never in relation to,

744
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: and this past little while has really made me think, like,

745
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: that's just not a word. You just don't need to

746
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: limit your opportunities or potential or even things that you

747
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: might want to do. Like I've always just said, oh

748
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: I would never do that or I'd never be interested.

749
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: But I just don't really think you can say that,

750
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: and I think it limits you so much when you

751
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: use that word. So the one of my big learnings

752
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: coming out of it is like, you don't need to

753
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: say never about anything, really, because particularly making decisions before

754
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: the pandemic about like oh, I'd never want to go there,

755
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: or oh, like you know, we'll never not be out

756
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: of travel, so we might as well do it now.

757
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: You know, Well, maybe you might not be out of travel,

758
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: so you should do it now, you know. I just

759
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: think we bandy that word around a lot, and I

760
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: think it shapes your world more than you think it would.

761
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

762
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: Nice, nice nice.

763
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: My end is again something that I think everyone can

764
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: agree with. My end is necrosis. When I think about lockdown,

765
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: I think about necrosis all the time. But my actual

766
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: n word is probably non negotiables have been very important.

767
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: I know, no double there you go, Oh yeah, yeah done.

768
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I have been very important in this lockdown life

769
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: is to do all the things that make you happy

770
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: every day without so you know how you're like, I'm

771
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 2: not going to bring my phone to my toilet or whatever.

772
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: That's non negotiable for me, so therefore I'm just gonna

773
00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: do it.

774
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so little things more often than not, what I

775
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: used to do this routine where if I had the

776
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: morning off, which has been a lot recently because I've

777
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: been working shift work, I've walked to the local cafe

778
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 2: and they've been really cute and they leave yesterday's paper

779
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: for me to take, and then I do the crosswords

780
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: and read yesterday's paper. So like I walk in, get

781
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: my same drink, get my paper, go home, start the

782
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: day that way. And that became almost like on the

783
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: days of the mornings I had off, a non negotiable

784
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: just set up my day, but things like checking out

785
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: my friend each week, or friends each week, going for

786
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: the runs with my friends, regardless of whether all that stuff,

787
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: because I realized made it really happy, making sure that

788
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: I rode my bike still and then get lazy to

789
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: drive my car because it's free parking. Yeah, all of

790
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: the non negotiables have been.

791
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: Really oh that's a really good one. Oh my god,

792
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: we made it to our last letter. Actually for me generosity,

793
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: I think there's been so much generosity between people, but

794
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: also actually a really lovely reminder that's fine. It's got

795
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: a silent batman symbol at the start. Also, yeah, I

796
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: think it's also been a really nice reminder to be

797
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: more generous and to send little messages through the day

798
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: or really small and gesture small gestures also a j

799
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: can be really they can make someone's day more than

800
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: you ever know, and you don't need to do. You know,

801
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: we haven't really been able to see each other or

802
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: turn up at each other's houses, but you can make

803
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: really small generous gestures that like a compliment or something

804
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: that makes people's day really happy without much effort. That's

805
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: been a really nice realization.

806
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: Nice. My g is gratitude or grateful, but THEE and

807
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: appreciation Gratitude Journal, both starting with Jay's Gratitudeude Journal and

808
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 2: then but secondary to GE's Grandmother's because they've just been.

809
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: Oh you're grand your famous Grandmas. I, but yes, lots

810
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: of lots of grammar action. Oh they're the best. I

811
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: love them so much. See earlier in this episode for reference. Okay,

812
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: we made it through. Imagine if we've done Angelina. I know,

813
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: Lord Elephant to Elephants. Every day, I'm gonna play bimb

814
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the other voice ones because otherwise we'll

815
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: just forget what we're up to, So let me just

816
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: do those first. Also, because so sweet that they made

817
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: the effort to send them, so I can believe that

818
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: it took us forty three minutes.

819
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: Wow.

820
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: I Also, every time I do one of these, I'm like,

821
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: I'm going to just make it short and snappy, and

822
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: I just can't do that. That's just me my blood. Okay,

823
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: here's another one.

824
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 5: This is from Nicky's Hey Sarah, I've got two questions

825
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 5: for the third Anniversary podcast episode and also third Anniversary

826
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 5: that's super exciting. My first question is about your dance days.

827
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 5: I love to know more about your experience when you

828
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 5: were dancing, how'd you get into it and what made

829
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 5: you enjoy it so much? And then also did you

830
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 5: do any other sports as you're growing up? And my

831
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 5: second question, I know You've done a bit of traveling

832
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 5: in your life, and hopefully traveling is coming back soon,

833
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 5: so I'd love to know are there any travel stories

834
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 5: that you have that you might not have shared before,

835
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 5: and then also what are some tips you would have

836
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 5: when traveling to really be able to connect with the culture.

837
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, looking forward to the episode.

838
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much, Nikki. Great questions. I love

839
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: when people ask really random ones. Dancing was amazing, such

840
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: an amazing part of my life. I started when I

841
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: was three, as like lots of little girls do, started

842
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: just doing ballet, and then very quickly after that added

843
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: tap and jazz and contemporary and everything, and then of

844
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: course being a hardcore a type, at five or six,

845
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to go pro, so then

846
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: started taking it really seriously, started training with the Australian

847
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: Ballet the Junior school in primary school I think, yeah,

848
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,479
Speaker 1: in like maybe grade four or five, and then kept

849
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: going all the way through until year ten when you

850
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: had to choose to go full time and give up

851
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: school or keep going. So it was like actually the

852
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: major part of my younger life and the first career

853
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: that I ever thought I would have loved it. It

854
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: taught me so much about discipline. I gave me so

855
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: many friendships, time management, having to put that in between

856
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: school and just moving your body and creative expression. And

857
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: I absolutely adored it so much so that I did everything,

858
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: like every kind of dance, but it was mainly ballet,

859
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: obviously with the Australian Ballet.

860
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 2: Oh you didn't do shuffling.

861
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: I didn't. You don't know. I didn't do shuffling. But yeah,

862
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: it taught me so many valuable things. But I don't

863
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: actually regret leaving it because Mum just said, please finish school.

864
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: You've only got two years to go, because you'll always

865
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: have a backup or as if you get injured, you

866
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: never know what could end, like it's quite a tenuous career.

867
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: So I did that. It was very, very wonderful advice

868
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 1: because by the time I did finish school, I'd realized,

869
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: oh wait, there's boys and parties and other things outside

870
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: of ballet, and also realized, you know, sometimes you do

871
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: have to get really realistic about things to realize like

872
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: it's a very very small world. They aren't that many

873
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: big companies in the world. And I just wasn't good enough,

874
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: Like I just was not I was good, but I

875
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be, you know, a prima ballerina, so

876
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: it really structured my younger years so beautifully. But it

877
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: was a chapter, you know, as I always say. And

878
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: I did all sorts of other sports as well. I've

879
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: always like loved netball and basketball, footy, cricket, like taekwondo.

880
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: I kind of tried everything. And that's my favorite thing

881
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: about school is that you don't have to be a

882
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: pro at everything. You can just try everything. So I

883
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 1: would say getting your kids involved in anything extracurricular really

884
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: helps round them out as a person and gives them

885
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: so many you know, and and you're the same you

886
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: did every sport, except we're actually really good at them all.

887
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: I think it's such a beautiful way to diversify your

888
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: school experience. And then travel, I miss it so much.

889
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: It is my favorite thing. I could talk about both

890
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: of those things for like whole episodes. But there's not

891
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: really many travel stories I haven't told because I overshare everything.

892
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: Maybe one that I've only mentioned maybe once that was

893
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: so random is when we were in Jordan, and also

894
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: has a random trip to Jordan where she just like

895
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: booked a ticket and then went there by I know true.

896
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: Our weird one was we bought tickets to the World

897
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: Cup match between Australia and I can't even remember who

898
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: else was playing, but we ran into some random We

899
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: heard some Australian accent when we were in a crowd,

900
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: and it was this guy from like Ivanhoe I think, anyway,

901
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: this random Melbourne suburb and his cousin was related to

902
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: the King or something, and so we got VVIP tickets

903
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: to go into the King's box and watch. It got very,

904
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: very very and the ticket literally says VVIP, and he

905
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: pulled us over, like pushed us up in the crowd

906
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: of people. We CrowdSurf like over the gate to get in.

907
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: It was just like you know, when you're traveling, just

908
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: the most randommest shit happens. Yeah, that's one of the

909
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: random ones. That's so random, that's so awesome.

910
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: I can't wait to do it, the randomness.

911
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: I know.

912
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: And then one of the other ones, we were in

913
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: Tel Aviv in Israel and we're on the beach and

914
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: there's this like paddle ball game that they play on

915
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: the beach. You can't wry what it's called, but there

916
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: was this random little old man who looked like a

917
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: turtle who was so cute. And he saw us watching

918
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: and he's like, come to my house. So he walked

919
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: like a block to his house and he had no bed,

920
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: but the entire house, like every room had those paddles

921
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: like all over the walls, and it was like the

922
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: shrine to the sport with like newspaper articles from when

923
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: it first started, and we've got all these photos. Nick

924
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: and I like, how do we get out of here?

925
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god? But it was so sweet but so weird. Anyway,

926
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: we stayed there and in bad has a cup of

927
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: tea and we like it was like he'd made this

928
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: private museum to this game. Anyway, it was so cute.

929
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: But just I love with traveling how you just meet

930
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: so many random people and find out about so many

931
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: random things. And I would say best way to immerse

932
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: yourself culturally. There are so many different things you can do,

933
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: but I would say learning how to say hello and

934
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: goodbye or thank you, like just a couple of words

935
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: in the language will open up. I think people when

936
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: you show that you're making an effort, they get really

937
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: excited and then they're more likely to share, Oh, you

938
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: should go to see this place or like, I feel

939
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: like that's a real way to connect with people in

940
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: the beginning. You don't have to learn a whole language,

941
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: but just saying a couple of words has opened up

942
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: so many conversations for me that have ended up in

943
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: random experiences and local hotspots that you never would have

944
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: found out about. I think that's been yeah, a really

945
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: lovely thing in traveling and just yeah, looking up things

946
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: off the beaten track, not just the tourist.

947
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 2: Traps being I used to do, which I used to

948
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: try to speak the language I could. But I also

949
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: realized that if you learn how are you response alusly

950
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: because so many people that I was like how are

951
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: you and they're like.

952
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: Hello, that's all you can say in return hollow by

953
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: exit entry airport.

954
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: My ball just quit, just really in my ball away

955
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: of immersing yourself in the you know, cap surf. So

956
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: if you're a bit of the.

957
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I recommend okay also next one, oh yeah, sorry plas.

958
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: Fus why not been on the back of that, there's

959
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: actually a question that came in from Jackie in our

960
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 2: that's so good.

961
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: So many I think one that just is such a

962
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: highlight is was that Jordan troop it's because I just

963
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: finished UNI. I finished in the middle of the year,

964
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: and I didn't start my job until the start of

965
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: the year after, so I actually had a glory six

966
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: month period of nothing like, no obligations, no responsibilities, no dates,

967
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: no deadlines, nothing, And I saved my whole UNI for

968
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: that trip, knowing I would have like a graduation trip.

969
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: We spent two nights in Dubai. Then we went and

970
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: did two weeks in Israel, a week in Jordan, a

971
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: week in Turkey, and then six weeks in Italy, finishing

972
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: in Malta. And it was massive and amazing and just

973
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: so eye opening. I kind of explained it was just

974
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: so free also to be there without any studying or

975
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: work to do it like, it was just such an

976
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: unusual situation to be able to do that and squeeze

977
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: it in. But it just was so wonderful. And I

978
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: had planned all of the first part because particularly in

979
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: the Middle East, I would recommend tours. You and I

980
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: spoke about this the other day. You get so much

981
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: more out of the history and context if you have

982
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: a guide, Whereas in Italy, Nick wouldn't let us book anything,

983
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: and for me like not to book accommodation. I was like,

984
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: we're going to be homeless on this tree without loud

985
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: bags and everything, and it was amazing. We just like

986
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: pulled in wherever we got up to. We got a

987
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: car from Rome and we drove all the way down

988
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: through Naples, through the Mulfy Coast and ended up in

989
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: Sicily and just stopped wherever and it was so liberating.

990
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: It was the greatest. And also the Amalfi Coast is

991
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: better than a postcard. It's like photos just don't do

992
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: it justice. It was so amazing.

993
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love Jordan. We I have this strange Dan Israel,

994
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: this strange affinity to them both. Anyways, So show the

995
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,479
Speaker 2: next oh.

996
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, next voice memo is for from Grab the Goals,

997
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: which is a beautiful business that has been following for

998
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: quite a while. Their market baskets and clutches and oh

999
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: actually that's so funny. One of the last photos from

1000
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: one of my show me a photo of trips down

1001
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: Memory Lane was Grab the Gows's number one place on

1002
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: their bucket list being near Malfi Coast. How can ok Yeah,

1003
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: so amazing.

1004
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: Okay, hey Sarah, it's capping from Grab the Girls. Just

1005
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 3: while I was listening to your podcast with Marketing Pain,

1006
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: I thought of a question for your third anniversary episode,

1007
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: and it is, where is the most amazing place in

1008
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 3: Australia or in the world that you would love to

1009
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: do a Seize the A podcast? Thank you.

1010
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: That's very specific. Frankston Porastodia. Oh my gosh, somewhere to

1011
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 1: do an episode that's like quite a specific thing. Ooh,

1012
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 1: I think and this is so random. This is where

1013
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: we're meant to go for our honeymoon, and I still

1014
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: think that we're going to do it at some point,

1015
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: even though we've already been married for two years. You

1016
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: were Egypt and I would love to do a podcast

1017
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: episode there because can you imagine interviewing like the head

1018
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: of one of the museums or something like that to

1019
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: talk us through the wayta of like the Pharaohs and

1020
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: how they built the pyramids and they're things that we

1021
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: now like mankind can't replicate Petra or the Pyramids or

1022
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: half the things in Jerusalem, Like there are so many

1023
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: parts of the world world where older ancient civilizations could

1024
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: build things that we don't know how to build now

1025
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: without machines. Like that stuff blowed my mind. Can you

1026
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: imagine sitting at like the base of a temple or

1027
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: the base of a pyramid and doing like a live episode.

1028
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, that's sick. But imagine all the

1029
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: Egyptians that don't understand what a.

1030
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: You talking about? Not Egyptians everyone agether now.

1031
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 2: Cheek.

1032
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: Also all the not Egyptians because they wouldn't come to

1033
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: the events just being me in the middle of the desert.

1034
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: That's a good one, okay. And last voice memo before

1035
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: we move to the other questions, which we've left like

1036
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: no time to do. This is from Catherine MacLean.

1037
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 6: Hi, Sarah, congratulations on reaching this milestone. I just wanted

1038
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 6: to let you know that some of my strongest memories

1039
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 6: of listening to the podcast is two years ago when

1040
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 6: I was walking around the streets in Chang Mai, Thailand

1041
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 6: listening to your upcoming wedding prep Question and Answer podcast.

1042
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: I really loved it, and I.

1043
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 6: Can just hear your voice whenever I think back to

1044
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 6: that holiday. So I guess my question therefore, is where

1045
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 6: if you could travel anywhere in the world right now

1046
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 6: without COVID, without restrictions, where would you go first?

1047
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 1: And why? So many travel questions? Yes, yes, Prestonia. Thank you, Catherine.

1048
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: Nothing makes me happier than hearing where you've listened and

1049
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: what kind of parts of your life the podcast has

1050
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: accompanied you on like that just makes me so happy,

1051
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: So thank you so much for sharing. And I think

1052
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: I would still say Egypt. It's maybe not right now,

1053
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: like I think it will be quite hard to move around,

1054
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: but the first place on my bucket list. Maybe not

1055
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: the first place I will go for practical reasons, but

1056
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: something I've just been aching in my soul to see

1057
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: is the Pyramids and just it's so steeped in history,

1058
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: and I imagine the same affinity that you and I

1059
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: have for Israel and Jordan for that reason, and how

1060
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: ingrained parts of our culture from now and parts of

1061
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: our scientific landscape come from those ancient times, and how

1062
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: they could read the sun to tell the time, and like,

1063
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: those things just blow me away. I just find them

1064
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: so fascinating, and I can't imagine what it would feel

1065
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: like to just be standing in Gizer looking up at these.

1066
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 2: That's the thing I felt with Petro. It was not

1067
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: just the story but everything. It was just huge, like

1068
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 2: overwhelmingly huge. And that's why I think it's really awesome.

1069
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: But since I've learned you wanted to go to Egypt,

1070
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: so that.

1071
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: For like two hold days since you were born basically.

1072
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: And I also think that like, the thing I love

1073
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 1: about travel the most is that it stretches your brain.

1074
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: And the quote that I love is a mind stretched

1075
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: by new experiences can never go back to its old dimensions.

1076
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: So at the moment, the travel I'm thirsty for is

1077
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: travel that is so different to Australia and our culture,

1078
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: and that stretches your brains so much, and I feel

1079
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: like Egypt is just that.

1080
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Middlely That's why think that's why I think I

1081
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: love Middle East too. It was just such a different world. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And one more one more sorry? Can I add? Is

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00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: also Korea because Nick has still not been and I

1084
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: want to take him to the orphanage where we were

1085
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: adopted from before we have kids, if we can, if

1086
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: we can get there, yeah we have, but to take

1087
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: him to see the babies.

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00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 2: So I have an affinity, Like maybe it's not an infinity,

1089
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: maybe it's just like a deep love for you know,

1090
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: Israel and Jordan and stuff. But man, our family has

1091
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 2: like a proper like boom affinity, antigen and antibody specific

1092
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: substraight affinity to Korea, to South Korea. We have been

1093
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 2: there multiple times. We have Korean Night. Nicko loves k

1094
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 2: pop as you do you because Sarah has realized there's

1095
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: like down that she's actually it's.

1096
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: A real shame that there was no letter K or

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00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: letter B in our names because that would have been

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00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: a really big revelation.

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00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 2: Okay, should we move on to the written questions?

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00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: I love how it's fifty nine minutes in and we

1101
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: haven't done the original questions. I will try and be fast,

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00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: I know, so I'm going to yeah and consolidate.

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00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to moderate.

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00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 7: They never be too fast because some of them, some

1105
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 7: of them still deserve you know, you're a full response.

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00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 7: But I think we'll start with a bit more law

1107
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 7: days questions. There's two that's kind of looked in the

1108
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 7: same similar theme, so Bailey Gene underscore h asked advice

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00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 7: to your twenty one year old self and advice to

1110
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 7: a second year law student, which is kind of also

1111
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 7: mixed with ebks, which asks do you ever miss practicing

1112
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 7: law slash being at KWM?

1113
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: All great questions? Okay, I don't ever really miss it?

1114
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: In a regret kind of way. I don't miss the

1115
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: law as in I wish that I was back there now.

1116
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: I miss the real intellectual stimulation of some legal questions,

1117
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: like that really academic laboring over a small question of language,

1118
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: or something that will change the way that a whole

1119
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: statute is interpreted, or something. I love that really nerdy stuff.

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00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: I miss that because my kind of creative work now

1121
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have that same really academic element, and I do

1122
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: love that so and I have no place for that,

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00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing in my life that allows me to

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00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: do that right now. So I do miss that, But

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,479
Speaker 1: in terms of the career overall, I actually haven't missed

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00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: it at all in the last kind of since I left,

1127
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: But that didn't mean that I didn't like it when

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00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: I was there. So I think my advice to my

1129
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: twenty year old self is every chapter of your life

1130
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: is going to look different in this day and age.

1131
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: The world moves so quickly that almost nothing is a

1132
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: forever choice. So just enjoy what you're in while you're

1133
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: in it, equip yourself as best you can for what

1134
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: comes next, knowing that you won't know what that is.

1135
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: You may end up going into law and loving it.

1136
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: You may end up never using your law degree the

1137
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: way that you thought you would, but nothing will ever

1138
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: be a waste if you learn something from it. So

1139
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: even if you hate where you are, and even if

1140
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: your main objective graduating law is to not go into it,

1141
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that it's not going to teach you

1142
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: things you need for whatever that next chapter is. And

1143
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: you just have to get comfortable with not knowing. I

1144
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: had no idea for the whole time I was at

1145
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: KWM that this would be what came next, and when

1146
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: I was in Matcha Maide and I still didn't know

1147
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,479
Speaker 1: that CZA would be what came next. And I don't

1148
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: think anyone on CZA who's been a guest has known

1149
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: what the cup was coming in the chapter after the

1150
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: one they were in. But that's why it's so exciting.

1151
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: So I think let go of needing to know the

1152
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: next step, equip yourself as best you can for whatever

1153
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: that may be, and trust that everything will unravel the

1154
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: way that it's supposed to. And some of those chapters

1155
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: won't be as comfortable as you might like them too,

1156
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: but then the next one will be where that all

1157
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: becomes clear.

1158
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: W look down on you if you.

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01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: No, No, absolutely with young people.

1160
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: I think there's people my age or my friends have

1161
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: had that same kind of thought preceres as Ah, like

1162
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: what will people think of me if they don't become

1163
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: a lawyer?

1164
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: And it's like.

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01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: Someonet, like a subconscious ego thing to feel like you

1166
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: have to complete it. But I don't think anyone really.

1167
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: People probably think you're more courageous for changing than they

1168
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 2: would to finish and not want to do it.

1169
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: And I have to be absolutely honest, I didn't really

1170
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: think about it at the time, but the more I

1171
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: overthink it, the more I realized that the prestige is

1172
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: something that's a very valid consideration. And that is probably

1173
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: why my bio in Spoonful of Sarah still says lawyer

1174
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: turned fun Dreveneur because I need the lawyer title to

1175
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: be in there somewhere. But that doesn't mean that it

1176
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: forms part of my identity now. But it's definitely something

1177
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: I acknowledge is part of your identity in a way

1178
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: that you can find ways to keep that part of

1179
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: your story. You know, it can be in your bio,

1180
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: it can be in the way that you tell the story.

1181
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: It's not like you have to let go of that

1182
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: part of your identity for ever. It's okay if you

1183
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: still need to hold on to some of it, but

1184
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: you don't need to stay. Like a quote that I've

1185
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: actually just put in the new flipbook number three that's

1186
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: coming out that I love is you don't have to

1187
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: stick with a mistake simply because of the time you

1188
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: took to make it. So if it took you twenty

1189
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: five years to realize that the pathway you're on is

1190
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 1: not the right one, that doesn't mean that you have

1191
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: to stick with it just to make the twenty five

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01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: years worth it. Like you can change your mind anytime,

1193
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: and that doesn't mean you know what I mean, Like,

1194
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: once you realize something's not for you, the quicker you

1195
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: can move the better.

1196
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, my brain is just absorbing.

1197
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: It's so long, so long.

1198
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: So yes, it's great, awesome tips and you don't miss

1199
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: it because you love your life that you're living now,

1200
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 2: which is awesome. I've got three questions that are similar

1201
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 2: theme and they're about the podcast and your brand. So

1202
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: I start in chronological order, and the question is from Underscore,

1203
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: and I believe there's two Underscores, but it's you know,

1204
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: I'm get me Wrongcore Studio. Why did you start the

1205
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 2: podcast and what made you take the leap and actually

1206
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 2: start I think we've made at the side of this,

1207
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 2: but I guess holy the whole picture thing.

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01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: Why did you want to stay Yeah? I think I've

1209
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: yeah spoken about this a couple of times, but the

1210
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: main reason was because you know, I always say that

1211
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: you're yeah is a jigsaw puzzle, and every experience is

1212
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: adding new pieces and getting rid of old ones that

1213
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: don't suit you anymore. And I'd made that massive jump

1214
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: from corporate to business and really was patting myself on

1215
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: the back, but Yeah, I'd made a forever decision and

1216
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: forever moving. This is what I'm going to do forever.

1217
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 1: But about three or four years into MATCHA, I started

1218
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: to feel like there were gaps in the jigsaw puzzle,

1219
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh my god, I'm just an ungrateful

1220
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: millennial who's got a short attention span, like, just stick

1221
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: with it. But then I realized, no, I'm four years older,

1222
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: with four years more experience and four years more of

1223
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: data to decide what suits me and what doesn't. And

1224
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: I had all male business partners, no room for the

1225
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: fluffy talk, and also no room for the stuff that

1226
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,959
Speaker 1: wasn't as acceptable when I first started, but increasingly people

1227
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: wanted to hear about mental health, breakdowns, burnout, comparison, self doubt,

1228
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: and there was nowhere to put that. The business pages

1229
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: weren't the right place. So I wanted to have conversations

1230
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: with people in similar positions about stuff that everyone had

1231
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: an appetite to hear about for longer than an Instagram

1232
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: attention span, like an hour long conversation. And I didn't

1233
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: know anything about podcasts. Literally, I was like, bing, you

1234
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts? How long are they? Where do they live?

1235
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: What are they like? I had no idea, but I

1236
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: just knew that's where conversations lived, and so I bought

1237
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: the equipment and then literally, as you heard at the start,

1238
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: I was like, so I've got a microphone, can we

1239
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: record today? And it just started that way, and it's

1240
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: continued to evolve as a form of expression and as

1241
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: a form of sort of spreading my values about and

1242
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: philosophies on finding happiness and joy and sharing that it's

1243
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: not you know, life isn't linear, and giving everyone permission

1244
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: to find their own path, like all that kind of thing.

1245
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: It's the best format and for me have been too.

1246
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: I've been able to help others kind of yeah, find

1247
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: their place in the world and share the stories that

1248
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: might inspire them to do that.

1249
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: And if you are if the questions on the back

1250
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 2: of you thinking about doing one, as I did with Sarah,

1251
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: I think you should just go out and do it.

1252
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: You need so I want to kick you up the

1253
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: button this to start it, because that's something that was

1254
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 2: you were just delaying just the first episode, like what

1255
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: should I do? How should I do it? Do I

1256
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 2: do an intro like five minute one thing that this

1257
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: is what the thing's gonna be about.

1258
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 3: Do I do this?

1259
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't care, nobody cares. Just do

1260
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: something And what do I do with my brain?

1261
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: Like how do I wrap at the start?

1262
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: And then Eminem's unavailable?

1263
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: What I do now?

1264
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: And like I can't do it in Egypians? So what

1265
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: am I going to do about that?

1266
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: But Goo thinking about this is like if it didn't

1267
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 2: work out, it wouldn't work out, it doesn't matter. It's

1268
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: it's free to set up. You just give it a

1269
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: shot and then you learn a lot of things from

1270
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: it and then yeah, and look at you now three years.

1271
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: Later, totally and that's and that's like one of the

1272
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: things that is the main message of CZA, that like,

1273
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: what's the worst that could happen. I do one episode

1274
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: I don't like podcasting or no one listens or it's

1275
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: not enjoyable or whatever, and then I just don't do

1276
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: another one, Like you look stupid for two seconds, but

1277
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: no one really notices anyway. And the most exciting thing

1278
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: about podcasting is it's so democratic. No one else sees

1279
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: your listens. And I also feel like if you get

1280
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: five listens of someone who listens for an hour, that's

1281
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: worth so many more than a like that takes half

1282
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: a second. Not even so if you change like one

1283
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: person's life, who cares If you have an audience of

1284
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: one or two, it really doesn't matter.

1285
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: The second question is from Tom Underscore Flex. Has there

1286
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 2: been a time where you were close to giving up

1287
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: on the podcast after it had started?

1288
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: I actually got a bit triggered by that question when

1289
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: I first saw it, because yes, earlier this year and

1290
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: I actually sat up in the middle of the night

1291
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: one night and was like, Nick, do you think, like

1292
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: should I just close the podcast? And he was like,

1293
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: what what are you even talking about? They just came

1294
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Speaker 1: out of nowhere. But actually, i'd know I've had that

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01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: with Matcher. I never really had it with anything else.

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01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: I didn't have it with the book. But and I

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01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: haven't had it the whole journey, the whole way along.

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Speaker 1: It's never been too hard or too much, or too

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01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 1: scary or whatever. Until this year, where I was having

1300
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: just a really hard time with anxiety. Nick had been away.

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01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: The kind of up and down of you know, Lockdown,

1302
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: in and out of Lockdown had really been getting to me.

1303
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: I had committed to adding a second episode and doing

1304
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: two episodes a week, but then I'd been having set

1305
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: different second guests as well, and the scheduling and the

1306
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: end I was still doing all the editing and trying

1307
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: to do all my other work and filming twice a

1308
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: week for House of Wellness, and I just, literally, like

1309
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 1: I said before, you can have too much of a

1310
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: good thing. I committed, over committed, and because I was

1311
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: tired and anxious, I overthought everything. So when one week

1312
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: I didn't get as many listens as the last week,

1313
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's failing, it's on the way out,

1314
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: or it's not as good as this one, or you know,

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Speaker 1: I've been working on, which just came out today. I'd

1316
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: been working on the rebrand and like developing some new assets,

1317
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: and I wasn't doing that fast enough and I wasn't

1318
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: like settling on something I liked, and everything just felt

1319
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: like why am I even doing this? Like no one

1320
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: even listens, no one even likes it. And I just

1321
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: got in my head about everything that I talk about

1322
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: on the show, self doubt, overdoing it, over committing, and

1323
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: then ruining the joy of something, giving myself false deadlines,

1324
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: like if you didn't get a Years of Our Lives

1325
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: episode and you only got a second bonus one every fortnight,

1326
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would have noticed. No one even

1327
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: knew what time was during the lockdown. But I was

1328
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: so hard on myself about it that I just pushed

1329
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: myself too hard and then couldn't have any clarity or

1330
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: objectivity about it and was just like, am I failing?

1331
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know why I thought that, but

1332
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: I got so in my head about it and nearly

1333
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: shut it down because I just was like, I can't

1334
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: do a good job at this. I just I don't know.

1335
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I was interviewing very well because

1336
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 1: I was tired all the time, and it was weird

1337
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: because looking back, it was like one of the best

1338
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 1: run of guests that I've had in ages. And I

1339
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: look back at those episodes and I love them all

1340
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: and I'm so proud of them. It's just interesting how

1341
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: much you get in your own head if you let it.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but I think those are also the moments that

1344
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: make you rEFInd your love for something, and having those

1345
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: down moments also gives you fresh perspective to have better

1346
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,799
Speaker 1: ideas next time. I just hadn't given myself enough distance

1347
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: from it, which is what I talk about all the time.

1348
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: I just wasn't practicing what I preach at all.

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01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 2: This is how crap I am. When Sarah was like,

1350
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 2: and you kind of yes of our lives with me,

1351
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: and I was like, of course, what's that?

1352
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: I was like, Ah, I started in very much.

1353
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: You absolutely probably not care if you did do one

1354
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 2: this week or next week. It's a bonus.

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01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: But also that self doubt can hit you randomly, like

1356
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: for no real objective reason. I just got in my

1357
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: head that like, I don't know, I didn't like it.

1358
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: It was crap. No one liked it. I don't know.

1359
01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: I just got in such a weird place about it,

1360
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: But I think those are the moments that remind you

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01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: that you really care about something.

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01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: Tom had a secondary question to that, which was on

1363
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 2: the back of your rebrand, where do you see the

1364
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 2: brand going in another three years time?

1365
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 1: Oh, well, I would come back to one of our letters.

1366
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: I think it was agility and the idea that when

1367
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: nothing is certain, anything is possible. I actually have no

1368
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: plans for the first time in years. I have not

1369
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: even a single plan about anything that's different. Like, obviously

1370
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: we've added a new episode, we've got a new tile

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01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: and some new assets coming out, but I don't have

1372
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: a book too ready. I just have absolutely no idea

1373
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: what next year's going to bring. Because I think that

1374
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: letting go of those expectations and plans has meant I

1375
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: haven't been too disappointed. Everything that's happened this year has

1376
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: been a bonus because I've really accepted that we can't

1377
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: plan anything, and I think that's been a good kind

1378
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: of emotional management strategy to just be open to anything.

1379
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: So I actually have no idea. I'd be so excited

1380
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: to listen to the in three years time when I

1381
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: know and be like, wow, I had no idea.

1382
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should actually and see where you are. This

1383
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 2: is gonna be have the quick answer. Okay, yep, well

1384
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 2: Sharena on a school Marina. I love that. Favorite guest.

1385
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's really hard this year Hugh van Kylenberg,

1386
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: the Resilience Protest.

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01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 2: Oh he's good.

1388
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: Loved him so much.

1389
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 2: Yes, okay. The next other questions kind of about your

1390
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: perspective on things somewhat mental healthy, but I'll grip them.

1391
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: It probably kind of probably stems off this. Your positivity

1392
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 2: and laughter is infectious. How do you do it? I mean,

1393
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,679
Speaker 2: keep so cheerful And it's from Sarah Marcus.

1394
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's really lovely, I think because I actually don't

1395
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: expect myself to be like that all the time, and

1396
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: I definitely am not an ant can attest to that.

1397
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: And the more patient you are with the periods where

1398
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: you're not like that, it allows me to really be

1399
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: positive and bubbly and excitable when I am like that.

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01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: I think it just is all about finding your right

1401
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 1: balance off what allows you to feel the most bubbly

1402
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: and excitable when you need to, Like when I do

1403
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: these recordings and when I get to do Quote of

1404
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: the Day and feeling really grateful to have those opportunities,

1405
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: and then in the moments where I'm not feeling so

1406
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: happy and positive, just honoring them and not trying to

1407
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: push past them or not trying to record on those

1408
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: days like I once would have, and waiting until, like,

1409
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 1: you know, you get that sparkled back. I think that's

1410
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: been the most important thing. To not expect positive people

1411
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: to be positive all the time. That's not realistic or

1412
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: probably healthy either, but just to pick your timing as well. Like,

1413
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: obviously I wouldn't want to record something like this when

1414
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,799
Speaker 1: I wasn't feeling super bubbly because it'd be so horrible

1415
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: for you guys to listen to.

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: That. Yeah, I think letting yourself not be happy is

1417
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 2: how you stay happy.

1418
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Okay this one?

1419
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 2: Okay. You know when sometimes an ol looks like a capital,

1420
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: I really hung it's either is or will Salou. I'm

1421
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: gonna say as an Ola, I'm really sorry if I

1422
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 2: screwed that up. Just listen to this weekend's episode. What's

1423
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: your topic for coping with anxiety?

1424
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean, I'm still working that out,

1425
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: but I think my biggest tip has been not trying

1426
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: to push through it, and really treating it the same

1427
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: way I would as a physical injury. My biggest breakthrough

1428
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: ever has been treating like has been equating it with

1429
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: if I had broken my leg right now and I

1430
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: was having a flare up of a sore leg, I

1431
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't go and like, try and run a marathon today.

1432
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: So if I'm having an anxiety day where it's flared up,

1433
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: why would I try and have the busiest work day

1434
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: I've had in weeks? But before I treated it as

1435
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 1: seriously as I would some kind of physical ailment, I

1436
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: would just try and ignore it. I'd be like, oh,

1437
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: put yourself together. You know this is a working day,

1438
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't give it the seriousness that it which

1439
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: would just make it worse because then the next day

1440
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: you haven't rested, you haven't given yourself the space to

1441
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: feel through it and to let it pass. In fact,

1442
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: you've done everything to trigger it even further. So I

1443
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: think kind of aligning it in your head with what

1444
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: you would if you had a physical injury has helped

1445
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 1: me a lot to actually respond better rather than just

1446
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: ignore it or push through it and make space for it. Again,

1447
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: you would never ever let someone talk you into but

1448
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: you should still walk today, you know you should still

1449
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: go and go for a run. You'd just be like, no,

1450
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: it needs to heal. Whereas if someone's like, oh, but

1451
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: you're just a little bit anxious, you should still go

1452
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 1: and you know, present to a group of one hundred people,

1453
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: why would you go? I probably should, you shouldn't. It's

1454
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,480
Speaker 1: also like an injury. It's a condition that affects your productivity,

1455
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 1: your your everything. So treat it seriously, pay really careful

1456
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: attention to what helps and what doesn't, and try and

1457
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: act accordingly. And also accept that some days nothing will help.

1458
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: There are honestly days where nothing makes it feel better

1459
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: or go away. It's just time. But if you know that,

1460
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: then you don't add extra stress trying to heal it quickly.

1461
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: It's a really unpredictable, fickle beast. But learning to kind

1462
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: of manage it and schedule around it has been enormous remueraful.

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01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: I think you've spent years and years perfecting your strategies,

1464
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: probably very hapful, but I think you don't really know

1465
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,560
Speaker 2: until you try and multiple times and then you refine it.

1466
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, those tips have helped me personally as well,

1467
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 2: So hopefully for.

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01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 1: You, my new friend Li salou or Issulu.

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01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 2: Sorry soul home Aus. Do you ever suffer from imposter syndrome?

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01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, all the time, all the time. And

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01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned before that if I didn't, I

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01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 1: don't think you should let it, you know, dictate your decisions,

1473
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 1: or let it talk you out of things. You don't.

1474
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: Imposter syndrome is not true. You just need to see

1475
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: it as a reflex. I actually sometimes welcome it because

1476
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: it means I haven't got complacent. I think it reminds

1477
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: me that I care about doing a good job. So

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01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: if I get up at a speaking gig and I'm like, oh,

1479
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 1: you don't deserve to be here, you know you have

1480
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: all the self doubt, I'm going to be crap. No

1481
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: one thinks I'm interesting, blah blah blah. I don't think

1482
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: it's a bad thing to feel that, like, it's very normal,

1483
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: And don't beat yourself up about it. Just go Okay,

1484
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: this is a reflex because I'm out of my comfort zone.

1485
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: In fact, it's a good sign that I'm doing something

1486
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: and I care about doing a good job. I don't

1487
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: just rock up here super comfortable like I'm going to

1488
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: nail it. You know, it makes me think I care

1489
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: about it, so I think it's again something you just

1490
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,879
Speaker 1: figure out what works for you, what doesn't you practice

1491
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: you surround yourself with friends who will help you through

1492
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 1: those moments. Don't worry if it never goes away, because

1493
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 1: that actually just means you're leveling up all the time.

1494
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: But just learn to kind of acknowledge it and then

1495
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: push it away.

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01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 2: Okay, next question, Bimbolina, this is okay. These are fine.

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01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 2: One stat by the way, this is from Bagat.

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01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 5: Yep.

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01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 2: Did you do your own wedding and makeup? Was very

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01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 2: pretty and she's planning her own waiting at the.

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01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 1: Mist Oh, thank you so much. I had so much

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01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: fun today watching the video again and going through all

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01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: the photos I did not I usually do all my

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01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: hair and makeup for events, but I felt like, on

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01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: your wedding day you really want it. Was also more

1506
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: about the experience of just getting ready in the morning,

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01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,799
Speaker 1: and I had the most amazing hair and makeup artists

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01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 1: around me. Organica for Hair did all of our hair. Sarah,

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01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: the owner, is one of the most amazing business women

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01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 1: and friends and inspirations. She was such a joy to

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01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: be around and her incredible team, and then Monica Gingold

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01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: did my makeup. We did a few trials, but I've

1513
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 1: always loved her work. And her team from Tonic Agency

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01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: did all our hair and makeup, including and I made

1515
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 1: her wear hair and makeup, which was so well.

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01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 2: Loved it.

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01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: But just that process of getting ready, I loved it.

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01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: I could have done it by myself. But I think

1519
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: you feel much more special when you, you know, get

1520
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: already together.

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01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 2: Remember your mom and your aunties did as well. We

1522
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: were you, you were getting your hair done. You were like,

1523
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: it's coming out. Take my phone, take photos of mom now.

1524
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: She never got a makeup done before.

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01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: It was so so cute. Yeah, we had a lot

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01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 2: of fun.

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01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: It was the best day ever.

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01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Viv you'll love this question because it's so random.

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01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 2: Loz m W. What do you think Paul would look like?

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01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 2: If human? My dog would wear a monocle? O?

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01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: My god, that's the best. Where is he Paul?

1532
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 2: Are you gonna ask him?

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01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: I think he'd be like an old man. He'd be

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01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: like a little old man. Yeah, are feel like a

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01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: little Scottish Scottish boy?

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01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 5: Really?

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01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 2: No, I just feel like he'd been like in a kilt.

1539
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he would be in a killed because

1540
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: he's got his old Davidson Tartan bo t. He's kind

1541
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: of funny, like I actually don't know. He definitely wouldn't

1542
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: have a monocle. He'd be really needy. I think he'd

1543
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: be like a little boy clinging to his mum's leg.

1544
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 1: And obviously he'd be like Strawberry blonde, a bit scruffy,

1545
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:17,400
Speaker 1: big guys, big eyelashes. I don't know. I can't imagine

1546
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:18,440
Speaker 1: Paul as a human.

1547
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 2: Now that I've thought of Paul as a Scottish boy,

1548
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 2: I can't think it, so I'm gonna.

1549
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: Stick it or like a really cute no, you know what.

1550
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: I kind of also feel like he'd be like Eddie Jacu.

1551
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the guy who wrote the Happiest Man on Earth,

1552
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: like that really warm smile, like really huggable.

1553
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, another fun one, Tom again, Tom on the.

1554
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: Flex, Hey, Tom Legend.

1555
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 2: Would you ever get Paul a dog?

1556
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I would get there's actually a meme about that.

1557
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 1: Like it's not that I want a second dog. I

1558
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: just want to get my dog a dog. I would

1559
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: love to get paula little puppy. But you guys know

1560
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: he has a bathing He has a really intense bathing

1561
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: schedule for all his other puppies. I feel like it

1562
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: just it it overwhelmed him. I mean he's got like

1563
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: twenty he has to give a full bath in a

1564
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: row every single night. It's like a full ordeal.

1565
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 2: Bit random one Jackie m Now favorite clothing and shoe brands.

1566
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 1: Oh, oh my god, that is so hard. Well, I

1567
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 1: mean I've only been really wearing active wear for the

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01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: last two years. I Wosly Nike shoes. I love my

1569
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: amazing friend Lana Wilkinson by Alana Wilkinson. That pretty much

1570
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,480
Speaker 1: the only heels I wear. They're so beautiful, so comfortable,

1571
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: they go with everything. You can wear them for a

1572
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: night out. It's be my favorite shoes and favorite clothing brands.

1573
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I love Mossman is one of my favorites.

1574
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: Dish is a like really simple linen basics, really affordable.

1575
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: I love like a really classic wardrobe where everything can

1576
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: kind of go with each other. I love Aussie brands.

1577
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: Padusha is a really cool Aussie brown that I wear

1578
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: a lot of clothes from. I kind of wear a

1579
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: lot of everything. I'm very random I love showed a joy,

1580
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: beautiful dresses. I wear a lot of showing and joy

1581
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: for Channel seven.

1582
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: What else, Well, that's what we got our dresses from.

1583
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, our bridesmaids dresses. Dresses, Yeah, yeah, I love them.

1584
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah so many. I just like can't even think right now.

1585
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: Shopping is so far from my brain.

1586
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 2: If anyone wants mine, they're quite bouche, so no offense,

1587
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: you don't shop for them. But I actually enjoy and.

1588
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: Karmel weird know, Oh my god, so good. I know

1589
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 1: what Carme is. I shop at carlso twenty four hour

1590
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: Carme is like one of my most on the bucket

1591
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: list for post locked out.

1592
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: Okay, so two last und of questions from my best

1593
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 2: friend is.

1594
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 1: What is the spirit animal Panda?

1595
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 2: Yes, chocolate or vanilla?

1596
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 1: Vanilla summer or winter summer? Summer?

1597
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 2: Sarah cannot stand the cold?

1598
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 1: My gosh, I cannot stand. I can't even speak. My

1599
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 1: kidneys get cold. I can't even speak when I'm cold,

1600
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: Like I literally lose the ability to speak.

1601
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 2: And that marks the end of the Some of the questions.

1602
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they were really fun. So sorry, guys,

1603
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: I really rushed through them because I like just got

1604
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: too excited in the first half and talk too much.

1605
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, because our sucks it across the problems forever. But

1606
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: I love those.

1607
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: I love how when you get audience questions, they're always

1608
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: from such different topics and it's not just asked like

1609
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: chatting about what are your reflections from the past three years.

1610
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 1: It's really nice to like, you know, have a think

1611
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: about what things I would prefer or who's been my

1612
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: favorite guest or Yeah, it's just it's been such an

1613
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: amazing ride. And as always, guys, if you want anything

1614
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: new or different, it is all about the neighborhood. So

1615
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: please always just keep the communication channels open. We've got

1616
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: the Facebook group. It's yeah, just I love kind of

1617
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 1: tweaking and improving every year to kind of, you know,

1618
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: see what you guys want.

1619
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,560
Speaker 2: Awesome, congratulations, I'm very proud of you.

1620
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,639
Speaker 1: Thanks bim a journey, I know, and I just want

1621
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: I always.

1622
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: Forget that you record, produce, edit all that on your own.

1623
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it. It takes a

1624
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 2: lot of time, but they don't realize it takes a

1625
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: lot of time because you don't listen to the whole

1626
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 2: thing back and then yeah, and then listen to it

1627
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 2: back so you know it knows to you. And I

1628
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: can't wait to see what the next three years or

1629
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: even the next three months look like for you, because

1630
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 2: I'm very excited.

1631
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: Thanks Bim. And also I always forget to ask this

1632
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: because it's so freaking awkward, But if anyone has been

1633
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: enjoying the show over the last three years and feels

1634
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 1: like it's been like brought some yea to their lives,

1635
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: if you wanted to give a third anniversary present, I

1636
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: would be so grateful if you guys would leave a

1637
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: little review for the show as well, because they just

1638
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: like if you are in those moments where I was

1639
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: just having a really hard time in the self doubt

1640
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 1: and stuff like it's because I don't get to see

1641
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 1: the audience when I'm recording your messages of ways that

1642
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: it's helped you or things that you've enjoyed even or

1643
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 1: things that have made you laugh, like I cannot say

1644
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: in those hours of going through and editing, and like

1645
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: I also want to present our guests in the best

1646
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: lights of choosing the best snippets and making sure they're

1647
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: happy with it and picking beautiful assets. Like what gets

1648
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 1: me really through that is hearing that it lands well

1649
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: with the neighborhood and does bring you yay. So if

1650
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,959
Speaker 1: you do have a moment, it would be so appreciated

1651
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: if you would leave us a little review. We haven't

1652
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: hit a thousand yet, even though we've had millions of downloads,

1653
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: which is so weird, but wow, I think I would

1654
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: really really love if you would take a moment.

1655
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1656
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 2: And guys, sometimes when I'm down, I read service reviews

1657
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 2: and it makes me happy. I'm doing for the.

1658
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: Great good, for the great good. But that's the weirdest thing,

1659
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: Like I forget, I don't leave. I like always you

1660
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: think of leaving reviews when you've had a bad experience.

1661
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: When I've had a really good experience, See, I'm like,

1662
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: I'll spread it far and wide word of mouth, But

1663
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 1: I just forget. Yeah, And so every now and then

1664
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: I have a moment where I'm like, I'm going to

1665
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 1: go and leave reviews for everyone, you know, every experience

1666
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: I've had that I really love. But you just forget

1667
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: so easily. So if anyone is listening and even enjoyed

1668
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: the show, please, they make me so happy.

1669
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 2: And then if you if you've written every on the

1670
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 2: back of this podcast, can you please snake in the

1671
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 2: word nuggets.

1672
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: I remember when you used to give me words? Would

1673
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: you give me words to like you had to like

1674
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 1: slip into TV interviews.

1675
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: I make you and Nick say discombobulated and they fools

1676
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: it on TV. It was amazing.

1677
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: He said it on sky News. He legitimately on sky

1678
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 1: News said we've been really discombobulated, and I was like,

1679
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 1: control your face because it was live. Oh my god,

1680
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: it was the best one. All right, Bimwell, I can't

1681
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 1: believe I just made you record for an ho hour

1682
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 1: and a half to my rambling, But thank you all

1683
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: for submitting your questions. And I loved having voice recordings.

1684
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 1: I think that was so much fun. So if anyone

1685
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 1: wants to do that for any Yays of our Lives episodes,

1686
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: if you've got a neighborhood watch item you want to

1687
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: describe or something cute that you are in the neighborhood,

1688
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: always just email them to me. And I figured out

1689
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: if you DM voice memos, I figured out how to

1690
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: save them so I can add them to the episode.

1691
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: So anytime, just get your voices on. Say yay, guys.

1692
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to stop it out getting delarious I know.

1693
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm gone. I'm gone, Okay. I love you everyone. Thank

1694
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 1: you so much, and thank you so much for hosting BIM.

1695
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: It's been so much fun.

1696
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 2: Actually, welcome him.

1697
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 1: Happy three years, Happy three years. Bye,