1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:22,065 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. Whoever said orange is 4 00:00:22,065 --> 00:00:24,225 Speaker 2: a new pink with seriously disturbed. 5 00:00:24,025 --> 00:00:28,025 Speaker 1: Laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have to 6 00:00:28,105 --> 00:00:28,465 Speaker 1: do it. 7 00:00:28,505 --> 00:00:29,745 Speaker 3: You live for fashion. 8 00:00:30,705 --> 00:00:33,585 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 9 00:00:33,705 --> 00:00:36,665 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. 10 00:00:36,905 --> 00:00:37,745 Speaker 1: I'm a chamberlan. 11 00:00:37,825 --> 00:00:40,225 Speaker 2: Every week I chat to an expert who helps us 12 00:00:40,265 --> 00:00:42,145 Speaker 2: work out how to get more out of the clothes 13 00:00:42,185 --> 00:00:45,345 Speaker 2: we already own and tells us exactly what is and 14 00:00:45,425 --> 00:00:48,385 Speaker 2: isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today, I'm chatting with 15 00:00:48,465 --> 00:00:53,345 Speaker 2: fashion expert Eva Gallambus. She's the powerhouse behind Parlor X, 16 00:00:53,385 --> 00:00:56,905 Speaker 2: which is an iconic luxury fashion destination here in Sydney, 17 00:00:57,465 --> 00:01:00,145 Speaker 2: and her business has survived twenty five years. 18 00:01:00,265 --> 00:01:01,825 Speaker 1: It's not just about retail. 19 00:01:02,065 --> 00:01:05,345 Speaker 2: She's a visionary, she's a style master and she's going 20 00:01:05,425 --> 00:01:08,705 Speaker 2: to talk us through curating a wardrobe that she polished 21 00:01:08,705 --> 00:01:12,065 Speaker 2: and comfortable, but also not super expensive. You're not going 22 00:01:12,145 --> 00:01:14,145 Speaker 2: to have to get a credit card or mortgage your house. 23 00:01:14,625 --> 00:01:17,585 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about choosing the right fabrics and 24 00:01:17,705 --> 00:01:21,305 Speaker 2: some few very clever little styling hacks that will instantly 25 00:01:21,425 --> 00:01:22,745 Speaker 2: elevate your outfit. 26 00:01:23,225 --> 00:01:24,745 Speaker 1: Eva, thank you for joining me. 27 00:01:24,905 --> 00:01:26,985 Speaker 2: I said to you off air, I'm a little bit scared, 28 00:01:26,985 --> 00:01:29,825 Speaker 2: and you said, people often say that it's because you 29 00:01:30,025 --> 00:01:32,985 Speaker 2: own such a fancy store and a fancy brand. And 30 00:01:33,065 --> 00:01:35,265 Speaker 2: I must say, I was looking for a fortieth dress 31 00:01:35,265 --> 00:01:37,065 Speaker 2: a few years ago and I went into Parlor X 32 00:01:37,265 --> 00:01:39,145 Speaker 2: and I didn't find it there. But this stuff was 33 00:01:39,225 --> 00:01:43,145 Speaker 2: so welcoming, so friendly, so helpful. So we don't need 34 00:01:43,185 --> 00:01:46,745 Speaker 2: to be scared, right, No, definitely much. It's a misconception. 35 00:01:47,145 --> 00:01:49,705 Speaker 2: I understand where it may stem from, but it is 36 00:01:49,745 --> 00:01:51,745 Speaker 2: a misconception. And at the end of the day, the 37 00:01:51,745 --> 00:01:54,385 Speaker 2: most important thing for me within the context of my 38 00:01:54,465 --> 00:01:58,625 Speaker 2: business is to always provide exemplary service, because our repeat 39 00:01:58,705 --> 00:02:01,225 Speaker 2: clients is the most important aspect of our business. 40 00:02:01,345 --> 00:02:02,665 Speaker 1: Well, I left feeling great. 41 00:02:02,785 --> 00:02:05,785 Speaker 2: Now we're here to talk a whole bunch of different things, luxury, 42 00:02:06,145 --> 00:02:08,265 Speaker 2: how to look polished, how to not have to mortgage 43 00:02:08,305 --> 00:02:09,625 Speaker 2: our houses. But first I want to start with you. 44 00:02:10,385 --> 00:02:13,425 Speaker 2: Can you describe your own personal style in three words? 45 00:02:13,825 --> 00:02:18,585 Speaker 2: Three words is difficult, but I will try. Creative, confident 46 00:02:19,105 --> 00:02:22,825 Speaker 2: and polished. Love creative. We've not had creative before, I 47 00:02:22,825 --> 00:02:24,705 Speaker 2: don't think. And that's such a good one because it 48 00:02:24,865 --> 00:02:28,145 Speaker 2: paints a picture but could mean something different to everyone exactly. Okay, 49 00:02:28,185 --> 00:02:30,025 Speaker 2: The theory that rings pretty true for a lot of 50 00:02:30,025 --> 00:02:32,665 Speaker 2: people is that we have a whole wardrobe, but there's 51 00:02:32,985 --> 00:02:35,425 Speaker 2: ninety percent that we like and wear, but then there's 52 00:02:35,465 --> 00:02:39,065 Speaker 2: ten percent that we just rely on wash where love. 53 00:02:39,385 --> 00:02:42,065 Speaker 2: What's in your ten percent that's your most loved, most 54 00:02:42,105 --> 00:02:46,425 Speaker 2: you stuff. Okay, So I'm going to tone down the 55 00:02:46,465 --> 00:02:48,545 Speaker 2: answer to this because, as you can imagine, I probably 56 00:02:48,585 --> 00:02:50,465 Speaker 2: own a little bit more than what your average person 57 00:02:50,505 --> 00:02:52,065 Speaker 2: owns because it goes with the territory. 58 00:02:52,225 --> 00:02:52,785 Speaker 1: It's the job. 59 00:02:52,825 --> 00:02:56,865 Speaker 2: But for me, the number one key piece is a 60 00:02:56,945 --> 00:03:00,745 Speaker 2: black blazer. I do own motovs, but my suggestion to 61 00:03:00,825 --> 00:03:06,945 Speaker 2: anybody would be to own one well made, beautifully crafted 62 00:03:07,225 --> 00:03:10,025 Speaker 2: black blazer because that could last in your way drove 63 00:03:10,105 --> 00:03:11,145 Speaker 2: for over twenty years. 64 00:03:11,385 --> 00:03:13,105 Speaker 1: And why do you reach for yours or one of 65 00:03:13,145 --> 00:03:14,945 Speaker 1: yours all the time? What are you pairing it with? 66 00:03:15,345 --> 00:03:19,025 Speaker 2: Well? To be honest, I use my blazer more often 67 00:03:19,025 --> 00:03:22,025 Speaker 2: than not when I want to polish an outfit or 68 00:03:22,105 --> 00:03:25,225 Speaker 2: make sure that it looks tailored. So sometimes I'll also 69 00:03:25,305 --> 00:03:28,545 Speaker 2: juxtaposition it. So if I'm wearing something particularly casual and 70 00:03:28,585 --> 00:03:30,665 Speaker 2: then I want to look smart, I'll add a black 71 00:03:30,665 --> 00:03:32,945 Speaker 2: blazer to it. So for me, the blazer is an 72 00:03:32,945 --> 00:03:37,345 Speaker 2: element of tailoring that is just completely necessary to make 73 00:03:37,425 --> 00:03:39,065 Speaker 2: any outfit look sophisticated. 74 00:03:39,185 --> 00:03:39,585 Speaker 1: Love it. 75 00:03:39,945 --> 00:03:41,945 Speaker 2: No, I'm thinking what black blazers I've got before we 76 00:03:42,025 --> 00:03:44,425 Speaker 2: jump into the rest of the episode. Anything else that 77 00:03:44,465 --> 00:03:48,025 Speaker 2: you just love wear? Are you a jeans girl? I'm 78 00:03:48,065 --> 00:03:50,545 Speaker 2: not the hugest gens girl. I sometimes wear jeans, but 79 00:03:50,705 --> 00:03:53,625 Speaker 2: very very rarely. And when I do wear jeans, they're tailored, 80 00:03:53,705 --> 00:03:56,345 Speaker 2: they're high waist and their wide leg. I don't wear 81 00:03:56,345 --> 00:03:59,585 Speaker 2: them in a casual way, and I will wear them 82 00:03:59,745 --> 00:04:03,305 Speaker 2: when I'm feeling like I want to tone a blue 83 00:04:03,305 --> 00:04:05,705 Speaker 2: outfit together. So it's kind of tied into more of 84 00:04:05,745 --> 00:04:06,905 Speaker 2: a color theme than it. 85 00:04:06,825 --> 00:04:07,785 Speaker 1: Is the fabric. 86 00:04:07,865 --> 00:04:10,905 Speaker 2: Yeah, than the utilitarian like exactly means for running and 87 00:04:10,905 --> 00:04:11,745 Speaker 2: that's fascinating. 88 00:04:11,825 --> 00:04:12,225 Speaker 1: I like that. 89 00:04:12,265 --> 00:04:15,185 Speaker 2: Gosh, I'll take any reason to wear jeans. Now, many 90 00:04:15,225 --> 00:04:17,745 Speaker 2: people in Sydney will know Parlor X, but for those 91 00:04:17,785 --> 00:04:20,665 Speaker 2: who don't, you know, for our national international listeners, what 92 00:04:20,865 --> 00:04:21,545 Speaker 2: is Parlor X? 93 00:04:21,585 --> 00:04:22,625 Speaker 1: How did you get started? 94 00:04:22,665 --> 00:04:26,705 Speaker 2: And how has a retail offering like yours survived these 95 00:04:26,945 --> 00:04:30,385 Speaker 2: years and decades of so much change. Okay, it's a 96 00:04:30,425 --> 00:04:34,225 Speaker 2: massive question that start with the bit about Parlo Rex 97 00:04:34,265 --> 00:04:36,585 Speaker 2: and who we are and how we came into being. 98 00:04:37,585 --> 00:04:40,505 Speaker 2: I created parlor X over twenty years ago, so in 99 00:04:40,545 --> 00:04:43,905 Speaker 2: fact we'll be, you know, celebrating our twenty five years 100 00:04:44,385 --> 00:04:47,625 Speaker 2: not too far away. Amazing, Yeah, and I have to 101 00:04:47,625 --> 00:04:49,785 Speaker 2: say I am also marveling at the fact that we're 102 00:04:49,785 --> 00:04:52,465 Speaker 2: still in existence, given what's gone on in the industry 103 00:04:52,545 --> 00:04:55,225 Speaker 2: and the massive amount of changes. But just getting back 104 00:04:55,265 --> 00:04:57,505 Speaker 2: to who we are and what we stand for. Parlo 105 00:04:57,705 --> 00:05:01,905 Speaker 2: X was created with the idea of bringing to people 106 00:05:02,345 --> 00:05:06,785 Speaker 2: a art gallery style appreciation of fashion in the way 107 00:05:06,825 --> 00:05:10,425 Speaker 2: that people normally appreciate art. So the idea is that 108 00:05:10,505 --> 00:05:14,065 Speaker 2: you will buy fashion that will appreciate in value, stand 109 00:05:14,065 --> 00:05:17,705 Speaker 2: the test of time and have a memory or a 110 00:05:17,785 --> 00:05:22,545 Speaker 2: keynote story which could come from the purchasing right through 111 00:05:22,625 --> 00:05:26,105 Speaker 2: to the idea around purchasing. But it's the idea that 112 00:05:26,345 --> 00:05:30,665 Speaker 2: fashion and beautiful quality, beautifully made fashion can be seen 113 00:05:30,745 --> 00:05:33,505 Speaker 2: almost like art. And so the idea was to present 114 00:05:33,625 --> 00:05:36,625 Speaker 2: that to Sydney at a time when the offering in 115 00:05:36,665 --> 00:05:39,865 Speaker 2: Sydney was very limited. I mean this is before online shopping, yes, 116 00:05:39,985 --> 00:05:41,905 Speaker 2: or fast fashion, before social media. 117 00:05:42,105 --> 00:05:43,625 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was well before amazing. 118 00:05:43,745 --> 00:05:46,665 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what influenced us back then was very different 119 00:05:46,705 --> 00:05:49,745 Speaker 2: to what influences us today obviously, but yeah, back then 120 00:05:50,025 --> 00:05:52,625 Speaker 2: the Sydney offering was limited. But it wasn't just that 121 00:05:52,825 --> 00:05:57,105 Speaker 2: everybody was bringing in designs a season behind, and so 122 00:05:57,225 --> 00:06:01,385 Speaker 2: for those who travel frequently, they would then see what 123 00:06:01,665 --> 00:06:04,345 Speaker 2: is being passed off as new season as a season behind. 124 00:06:04,385 --> 00:06:05,665 Speaker 2: And a lot of that had to do with the 125 00:06:05,705 --> 00:06:09,345 Speaker 2: fact that it's Southern Hemisphere versus Northern Hemisphere climate. But 126 00:06:09,945 --> 00:06:13,065 Speaker 2: it was completely and totally doable, and so that was 127 00:06:13,105 --> 00:06:16,025 Speaker 2: one of the most important aspects of starting Parlor X 128 00:06:16,065 --> 00:06:21,345 Speaker 2: and presenting current collections to the Australian clientele. Wow, that's amazing, 129 00:06:21,345 --> 00:06:23,745 Speaker 2: I know, because before we had the Internet. That sounds 130 00:06:23,865 --> 00:06:26,305 Speaker 2: like we're dinosaurs. We didn't have that transparency of what 131 00:06:26,345 --> 00:06:28,225 Speaker 2: was happening. We just things hit stores, we thought it 132 00:06:28,265 --> 00:06:29,505 Speaker 2: was new, and we bought it and you were like, 133 00:06:29,545 --> 00:06:32,305 Speaker 2: hang on, no, poor Australia, let's get them up to speed. 134 00:06:32,665 --> 00:06:35,345 Speaker 2: Now you have such a sharp eye for fashion, how 135 00:06:35,385 --> 00:06:37,905 Speaker 2: would you define your own style philosophy? 136 00:06:37,985 --> 00:06:39,345 Speaker 1: Or shopping philosophy. 137 00:06:39,585 --> 00:06:42,545 Speaker 2: All of our wardrobes are only as big as they are, 138 00:06:42,865 --> 00:06:46,905 Speaker 2: so for me, when I acquire new pieces, it also 139 00:06:46,985 --> 00:06:50,745 Speaker 2: means I have to discard pieces, so I feel guilty 140 00:06:50,945 --> 00:06:53,945 Speaker 2: if I have too much, or if I want to 141 00:06:53,985 --> 00:06:56,305 Speaker 2: take too much. It makes me almost feel gluttonous. So 142 00:06:56,385 --> 00:06:58,505 Speaker 2: on the one hand, I want to celebrate my word 143 00:06:58,705 --> 00:07:01,505 Speaker 2: rewards with acquiring beautiful pieces because that's what we do 144 00:07:01,545 --> 00:07:03,545 Speaker 2: and it makes us feel good. But on the other hand, 145 00:07:04,225 --> 00:07:06,545 Speaker 2: there's a circular element to that, and that is that 146 00:07:06,625 --> 00:07:09,785 Speaker 2: I need to discard anything that I don't wear often 147 00:07:09,745 --> 00:07:12,105 Speaker 2: enough or that doesn't feel like it represents who I 148 00:07:12,145 --> 00:07:15,225 Speaker 2: am anymore. So I guess there's certain pieces in my 149 00:07:15,305 --> 00:07:18,185 Speaker 2: wardrobe that have been there certain looks and certain fields, 150 00:07:18,225 --> 00:07:20,825 Speaker 2: and to be honest with you, certain brands. And we 151 00:07:20,905 --> 00:07:23,865 Speaker 2: go back to when I described my personal style as creative. 152 00:07:23,945 --> 00:07:27,465 Speaker 2: So there are certain brands that are extremely creative that 153 00:07:27,625 --> 00:07:29,945 Speaker 2: I consider it to be extremely creative. 154 00:07:29,985 --> 00:07:32,705 Speaker 1: And I still have pieces for thirty years. 155 00:07:32,905 --> 00:07:35,825 Speaker 2: And some of these brands even go into their archives 156 00:07:35,865 --> 00:07:38,145 Speaker 2: and recreation and some of the pieces aren't even as 157 00:07:38,145 --> 00:07:40,105 Speaker 2: good as what they were at the very beginning, but 158 00:07:40,225 --> 00:07:42,105 Speaker 2: I still stuck a lot of those brands and a 159 00:07:42,145 --> 00:07:44,985 Speaker 2: lot of those collections. So it's a building block. So 160 00:07:45,025 --> 00:07:47,785 Speaker 2: I see my wardrobe as a constant building block, as 161 00:07:47,825 --> 00:07:51,665 Speaker 2: a constant outlet, so to speak of just building from 162 00:07:51,705 --> 00:07:54,185 Speaker 2: previous seasons and previous collections. 163 00:07:54,265 --> 00:07:55,145 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 164 00:07:55,225 --> 00:07:57,265 Speaker 2: Oh I love that one. To comply in your wardrobe. 165 00:07:57,385 --> 00:08:00,665 Speaker 2: Now you've built this incredible career in fashion. I also 166 00:08:00,825 --> 00:08:02,465 Speaker 2: wonder do you feel the pressure or is there a 167 00:08:02,505 --> 00:08:05,305 Speaker 2: pressure to always look good because you own such an 168 00:08:05,345 --> 00:08:07,745 Speaker 2: incredible fashion brand. But from all of that, have you 169 00:08:07,825 --> 00:08:10,425 Speaker 2: learned any tips or tricks for dressing well no matter 170 00:08:10,465 --> 00:08:11,065 Speaker 2: the occasion. 171 00:08:11,585 --> 00:08:12,105 Speaker 1: It's funny. 172 00:08:12,265 --> 00:08:15,825 Speaker 2: I don't feel pressure from anybody else other than myself. 173 00:08:16,105 --> 00:08:20,225 Speaker 2: So I don't feel good about myself unless I feel 174 00:08:20,265 --> 00:08:22,785 Speaker 2: that I look good. So looking good is important to me. 175 00:08:22,905 --> 00:08:25,705 Speaker 2: And I understand that every person has their priorities in life, 176 00:08:25,745 --> 00:08:29,465 Speaker 2: and we're all extremely busy, whether we're raising children, or 177 00:08:29,505 --> 00:08:33,065 Speaker 2: we're juggling jobs, or you know, just juggling life in general, 178 00:08:33,225 --> 00:08:36,705 Speaker 2: we're all very busy. So we make sacrifices according to time, 179 00:08:37,025 --> 00:08:40,025 Speaker 2: and we decide what's a priority to us. And for me, 180 00:08:40,465 --> 00:08:43,865 Speaker 2: looking good is a priority because it's completely tied into 181 00:08:43,905 --> 00:08:46,065 Speaker 2: how I feel about myself and my sense of self 182 00:08:46,065 --> 00:08:48,825 Speaker 2: worth and my sense of fulfillment and my sense of success. 183 00:08:49,385 --> 00:08:51,865 Speaker 2: So for me, when I look in the mirror, if 184 00:08:51,905 --> 00:08:53,665 Speaker 2: I'm not happy with what I see, if I'm not 185 00:08:53,705 --> 00:08:56,025 Speaker 2: happy with how I'm presenting myself, I will take that 186 00:08:56,065 --> 00:08:58,425 Speaker 2: little bit of extra time to make sure that whatever 187 00:08:58,465 --> 00:09:00,385 Speaker 2: it is, I spruce up so that when I walk 188 00:09:00,385 --> 00:09:02,905 Speaker 2: out that door, I feel presentable in the way that 189 00:09:02,945 --> 00:09:05,145 Speaker 2: I want to be presented. And when you say looking good, 190 00:09:05,225 --> 00:09:07,705 Speaker 2: you mean looking good for yourself going I feel like 191 00:09:07,825 --> 00:09:10,825 Speaker 2: for me, I feel like this makes me feel powerful. Look, 192 00:09:11,025 --> 00:09:13,185 Speaker 2: you know, going back to the creative thing. I don't 193 00:09:13,265 --> 00:09:16,585 Speaker 2: dress for everybody. You know, my personal style is unique 194 00:09:16,585 --> 00:09:19,385 Speaker 2: to me and there are a lot of stars and 195 00:09:19,425 --> 00:09:23,225 Speaker 2: also silhouettes that I wear that people are often shocked at, 196 00:09:23,305 --> 00:09:25,145 Speaker 2: you know, or surprised when I say shocked. I'm not 197 00:09:25,265 --> 00:09:28,865 Speaker 2: wacky in any way, but for example, I have oversized 198 00:09:29,065 --> 00:09:33,865 Speaker 2: and voluminous clothing is very much part of my staple dressing. 199 00:09:34,345 --> 00:09:37,785 Speaker 2: And I'm not actually a very big person, but I regardless, 200 00:09:37,825 --> 00:09:40,945 Speaker 2: I like dressing in clothes that are quite voluminous. And 201 00:09:40,985 --> 00:09:43,545 Speaker 2: on the other occasion, when I am not wearing a 202 00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:47,145 Speaker 2: voluminous outfit and I'm dressed tailored or I'm wearing something 203 00:09:47,545 --> 00:09:50,945 Speaker 2: quite Yeah, people around me are shocked, and it's met 204 00:09:50,945 --> 00:09:52,825 Speaker 2: with why are you wearing more of that? Or why 205 00:09:52,865 --> 00:09:54,385 Speaker 2: do you not expose yourself more? 206 00:09:54,505 --> 00:09:54,785 Speaker 1: Or why? 207 00:09:55,345 --> 00:09:58,465 Speaker 2: And it's because I dress for myself and my confidence 208 00:09:58,505 --> 00:10:01,305 Speaker 2: comes from within. It doesn't matter to me how people 209 00:10:01,385 --> 00:10:03,705 Speaker 2: perceive me, whether I'm bigger or smaller or what even 210 00:10:03,705 --> 00:10:04,145 Speaker 2: that means? 211 00:10:04,145 --> 00:10:04,625 Speaker 1: Who cares? 212 00:10:04,985 --> 00:10:05,185 Speaker 2: You know? 213 00:10:05,345 --> 00:10:07,425 Speaker 1: I dress in a way that I feel good for myself. 214 00:10:07,465 --> 00:10:08,105 Speaker 1: It's so true. 215 00:10:08,145 --> 00:10:10,225 Speaker 2: You know, clothes, it can just be closed. They make 216 00:10:10,265 --> 00:10:13,465 Speaker 2: you feel powerful or confident or happy, and you know what, 217 00:10:13,705 --> 00:10:14,705 Speaker 2: That's what it's all about. 218 00:10:23,585 --> 00:10:23,945 Speaker 3: Now. 219 00:10:24,185 --> 00:10:27,185 Speaker 2: People might presume or assume that you're only about high 220 00:10:27,305 --> 00:10:29,905 Speaker 2: end or luxury, but you have some great insights into 221 00:10:29,985 --> 00:10:33,505 Speaker 2: curating a wardrobe that can feel luxurious but without a 222 00:10:33,585 --> 00:10:36,345 Speaker 2: super high price tag. Slash selling our car, slash getting 223 00:10:36,345 --> 00:10:40,425 Speaker 2: another mortgage. So what's the secret to looking lux but 224 00:10:40,745 --> 00:10:42,985 Speaker 2: not going into thousands of credit card debt? 225 00:10:43,145 --> 00:10:43,425 Speaker 1: Okay? 226 00:10:43,545 --> 00:10:47,385 Speaker 2: So I'm sure everybody's heard variations of what I'm going 227 00:10:47,465 --> 00:10:50,265 Speaker 2: to say time and time again, but I guess this 228 00:10:50,305 --> 00:10:52,785 Speaker 2: is my take on it. I think it is impossible 229 00:10:53,225 --> 00:10:59,185 Speaker 2: to look super lux without owning one or two key 230 00:10:59,505 --> 00:11:02,705 Speaker 2: luxurious pieces. How you acquire them is a different story, 231 00:11:02,705 --> 00:11:06,065 Speaker 2: because obviously, now with the explosion on the circular economy 232 00:11:06,105 --> 00:11:10,025 Speaker 2: of secondhand and secondhand designer clothing and assignments can sign 233 00:11:10,465 --> 00:11:13,465 Speaker 2: it's not necessarily about breaking the bank, and it's not 234 00:11:13,505 --> 00:11:16,465 Speaker 2: necessarily about that. But I also think there has to 235 00:11:16,505 --> 00:11:18,505 Speaker 2: be a reality check too, because I think there's a 236 00:11:18,505 --> 00:11:22,025 Speaker 2: lot of people constantly acquiring fast fashion, and if you 237 00:11:22,145 --> 00:11:24,985 Speaker 2: add up in the year what was spent on fast fashion, 238 00:11:25,225 --> 00:11:28,225 Speaker 2: and if you take that budget and you carefully buy 239 00:11:28,385 --> 00:11:31,585 Speaker 2: one or two key pieces and then a few pieces. 240 00:11:31,785 --> 00:11:33,985 Speaker 2: I don't endorse fast fashion, but you can certainly go 241 00:11:34,025 --> 00:11:36,185 Speaker 2: to the markets. You can vertically market. No, you can 242 00:11:36,225 --> 00:11:40,305 Speaker 2: get range, of course, exactly No. But that I'm happy, 243 00:11:40,385 --> 00:11:42,305 Speaker 2: I mean, I love that. I want to endorse and 244 00:11:42,345 --> 00:11:46,145 Speaker 2: support up and coming designers who have their own unique 245 00:11:46,305 --> 00:11:49,225 Speaker 2: design element. I guess when I'm talking about fast fast fashion, 246 00:11:49,265 --> 00:11:53,425 Speaker 2: I'm talking about institutions that will emulate other people's designs. 247 00:11:53,505 --> 00:11:56,785 Speaker 2: I think if they're up end up in that fool exactly. 248 00:11:56,945 --> 00:12:00,465 Speaker 2: I think the key is recognizing and acknowledging what is 249 00:12:00,465 --> 00:12:04,185 Speaker 2: a sophisticated luxurious piece. But it doesn't necessarily mean it 250 00:12:04,225 --> 00:12:06,785 Speaker 2: has to be a brand that is associated with that. 251 00:12:07,225 --> 00:12:10,025 Speaker 2: It just means that the quality of the production, the 252 00:12:10,145 --> 00:12:13,785 Speaker 2: quality of the fabrications, the buttons, whether or not the 253 00:12:14,105 --> 00:12:18,585 Speaker 2: seams are even and perfectly symmetrical, you know, understanding what 254 00:12:18,665 --> 00:12:23,385 Speaker 2: divines what is perceived to be beautiful quality. Everybody's price 255 00:12:23,505 --> 00:12:25,705 Speaker 2: range is different according to them. And also just I 256 00:12:25,785 --> 00:12:28,025 Speaker 2: think a lot of the show this year so far 257 00:12:28,145 --> 00:12:31,865 Speaker 2: is about taking a beat and really considering purchases, yes, 258 00:12:31,905 --> 00:12:34,425 Speaker 2: making sure it's not just an emotional purchase. 259 00:12:34,065 --> 00:12:36,545 Speaker 1: And really making it more considered. Yes. 260 00:12:36,865 --> 00:12:40,265 Speaker 2: I think also to that point, maybe if everybody took 261 00:12:40,385 --> 00:12:42,745 Speaker 2: an interest not everybody, but if some people took an 262 00:12:42,745 --> 00:12:45,585 Speaker 2: interest in fashion, but also love the idea of styling 263 00:12:45,625 --> 00:12:48,865 Speaker 2: behind fashion, okay, and then that way you could still 264 00:12:48,865 --> 00:12:52,145 Speaker 2: have a limited wardrobe. And if you knew how to 265 00:12:52,185 --> 00:12:55,425 Speaker 2: style yourself, or if you push the envelope and you 266 00:12:55,625 --> 00:13:00,425 Speaker 2: recreated looks, you probably would find so many more looks 267 00:13:00,865 --> 00:13:03,345 Speaker 2: in your wardrobe. Then you realize we're even there. Yeah, 268 00:13:03,385 --> 00:13:06,265 Speaker 2: the combinations exactly, rather than going oh, no, I need 269 00:13:06,305 --> 00:13:08,825 Speaker 2: something for this weekend and get something that's new and cheap, 270 00:13:08,825 --> 00:13:11,105 Speaker 2: and you're probably never wear exactly You've talked about the 271 00:13:11,105 --> 00:13:13,265 Speaker 2: black blazer. Do you have any other little tricks for 272 00:13:13,385 --> 00:13:17,025 Speaker 2: making outfits feel effortless but refined but cool? 273 00:13:17,225 --> 00:13:18,745 Speaker 1: But shit, I've run out of time. 274 00:13:19,785 --> 00:13:23,065 Speaker 2: I mean, oh yeah, no, absolutely, I mean, so let's 275 00:13:23,145 --> 00:13:25,465 Speaker 2: just start with that black blazer again. So you can 276 00:13:25,465 --> 00:13:28,185 Speaker 2: wear that blazer closed, you can wear it open, you 277 00:13:28,225 --> 00:13:30,905 Speaker 2: can also belt it. That one blazer will look completely 278 00:13:30,905 --> 00:13:33,425 Speaker 2: different depending on what you're wearing with the other thing 279 00:13:33,505 --> 00:13:35,225 Speaker 2: is I mean this might be a little bit quirky 280 00:13:35,265 --> 00:13:37,745 Speaker 2: for some people, but you can wear the blazer back 281 00:13:37,785 --> 00:13:40,785 Speaker 2: to front, you put the arms in, you button it 282 00:13:40,825 --> 00:13:42,785 Speaker 2: at the back, and you can also belt it. So 283 00:13:42,945 --> 00:13:46,585 Speaker 2: what I'm saying is recreating certain elements. Okay, what else 284 00:13:46,625 --> 00:13:48,185 Speaker 2: can you have in your wordrob? So a belt, so 285 00:13:48,265 --> 00:13:51,905 Speaker 2: really good belt is really important. A beautiful shoe. So 286 00:13:52,025 --> 00:13:55,265 Speaker 2: it could be one boot and one sandal and one trainer, 287 00:13:55,505 --> 00:13:58,225 Speaker 2: but make sure that the quality is beautiful and it 288 00:13:58,225 --> 00:14:00,985 Speaker 2: will last. So what I do with my shoes is 289 00:14:01,065 --> 00:14:03,265 Speaker 2: I take my shoe to a cobbler, you know, to 290 00:14:03,545 --> 00:14:05,345 Speaker 2: one of the guys that where you can get your 291 00:14:05,385 --> 00:14:08,545 Speaker 2: keys cut, and they usually have machinery in there. And 292 00:14:08,785 --> 00:14:11,665 Speaker 2: again you're creating a service for somebody else. You're sort 293 00:14:11,665 --> 00:14:14,585 Speaker 2: of you're buying into their service and they're making your 294 00:14:14,825 --> 00:14:15,945 Speaker 2: products look brand new. 295 00:14:15,945 --> 00:14:17,865 Speaker 1: And they do that with shoes, they do that with bags. 296 00:14:17,945 --> 00:14:18,665 Speaker 1: I do that a lot. 297 00:14:18,785 --> 00:14:20,265 Speaker 2: I do too. It's funny you say, that's just been 298 00:14:20,305 --> 00:14:23,345 Speaker 2: my ten yere wedding anniversary. I wore Alexander McQueen heels 299 00:14:23,385 --> 00:14:25,585 Speaker 2: that I've still got, but they're in pretty bad shape. 300 00:14:25,625 --> 00:14:27,025 Speaker 2: And I thought, oh, buy new ones for you know, 301 00:14:27,065 --> 00:14:28,625 Speaker 2: the anniversary, and I went, no, no, what? And I 302 00:14:28,665 --> 00:14:30,745 Speaker 2: took the old ones and he made them look almost 303 00:14:30,785 --> 00:14:34,225 Speaker 2: brand new for sixty bucks. Brilliant, and the sentimental value 304 00:14:34,225 --> 00:14:36,465 Speaker 2: of wearing them ten years later, you know, it was 305 00:14:36,745 --> 00:14:38,825 Speaker 2: not as exciting as new shoes, but then it felt 306 00:14:38,905 --> 00:14:40,785 Speaker 2: so good to give them new life and the memory 307 00:14:40,865 --> 00:14:41,625 Speaker 2: is okay. 308 00:14:41,665 --> 00:14:42,905 Speaker 1: So imagine if you had. 309 00:14:42,745 --> 00:14:45,305 Speaker 2: A court shoe and you added a brooch to the 310 00:14:45,305 --> 00:14:48,705 Speaker 2: front of it, and then suddenly you're taking a plain 311 00:14:48,825 --> 00:14:51,425 Speaker 2: shoe and you're adding an element that makes it look 312 00:14:51,465 --> 00:14:53,945 Speaker 2: completely different, and then you wear that all season and 313 00:14:53,945 --> 00:14:55,985 Speaker 2: then you've got your new shoe as well. I've seen 314 00:14:55,985 --> 00:14:57,985 Speaker 2: people do that with cliff on earrings, which is actually 315 00:14:58,065 --> 00:15:01,865 Speaker 2: very clever. But you can also color shoes. You can 316 00:15:01,905 --> 00:15:03,865 Speaker 2: also have them painted, So there are different ways of 317 00:15:03,905 --> 00:15:04,825 Speaker 2: recreating things. 318 00:15:04,945 --> 00:15:05,825 Speaker 1: Same with bags. 319 00:15:06,185 --> 00:15:08,705 Speaker 2: You can put a scarf around a handle, you can 320 00:15:08,785 --> 00:15:11,105 Speaker 2: dress a bag up like there's also at the moment, 321 00:15:11,145 --> 00:15:13,505 Speaker 2: you know, people putting trinkets and a lot of the back. 322 00:15:13,625 --> 00:15:13,785 Speaker 1: Yeah. 323 00:15:13,785 --> 00:15:17,505 Speaker 2: Absolutely, So there are different ways of being super creative 324 00:15:17,785 --> 00:15:19,145 Speaker 2: in reinventing your wardrobe. 325 00:15:19,185 --> 00:15:19,665 Speaker 1: I love that. 326 00:15:19,705 --> 00:15:21,225 Speaker 2: Oh no, you maybe want to go home and think 327 00:15:21,225 --> 00:15:24,345 Speaker 2: I've got a lot of like beige and cream leather 328 00:15:24,385 --> 00:15:26,345 Speaker 2: shoes and I'm like, they're dead, but I could die them. 329 00:15:26,545 --> 00:15:28,985 Speaker 2: Work events, this is something we get a lot because 330 00:15:29,065 --> 00:15:32,585 Speaker 2: people either think work is boring, slash, I'll just go 331 00:15:32,665 --> 00:15:36,745 Speaker 2: by whatever, or they feel like they have to look very. 332 00:15:36,505 --> 00:15:37,705 Speaker 1: Professional but not cool. 333 00:15:37,865 --> 00:15:41,145 Speaker 2: They get confused about fashion and work because apparently they 334 00:15:41,145 --> 00:15:43,145 Speaker 2: can't go together. You and I work in fashion, so 335 00:15:43,185 --> 00:15:45,665 Speaker 2: that's different. But do you have any tips for people 336 00:15:45,665 --> 00:15:47,105 Speaker 2: that might be a bit more corporate than you and 337 00:15:47,145 --> 00:15:49,985 Speaker 2: I to look sharp, feel confident, but still get the 338 00:15:50,025 --> 00:15:52,305 Speaker 2: most dot out of their wardrobe so they're not just 339 00:15:52,465 --> 00:15:52,945 Speaker 2: wearing it. 340 00:15:53,185 --> 00:15:53,945 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. 341 00:15:54,025 --> 00:15:55,905 Speaker 2: I mean we have a lot of clients that work 342 00:15:55,985 --> 00:15:59,865 Speaker 2: in a corporate setting and it's about matching sets So 343 00:16:00,065 --> 00:16:02,225 Speaker 2: for those particularly corporate that need to wear a suit, 344 00:16:02,345 --> 00:16:04,865 Speaker 2: suit is one element, but you can also look very 345 00:16:04,865 --> 00:16:07,185 Speaker 2: corporate just in a matching set, so matching blouse with 346 00:16:07,225 --> 00:16:09,665 Speaker 2: a matching skirt or matching blows with the matching pans, 347 00:16:10,185 --> 00:16:12,025 Speaker 2: and then you put again your black blazer or a 348 00:16:12,105 --> 00:16:14,145 Speaker 2: blazer over the top of it. But the thing is, 349 00:16:14,225 --> 00:16:15,625 Speaker 2: you could have a black suit, or you could have 350 00:16:15,665 --> 00:16:17,665 Speaker 2: a blue suit. You could have any colored suit, and 351 00:16:17,745 --> 00:16:21,665 Speaker 2: as long as you had lovely blousers and different colored blouses, 352 00:16:21,825 --> 00:16:24,425 Speaker 2: and again you could have a pussy blow blouse, which 353 00:16:24,465 --> 00:16:26,505 Speaker 2: means you have the bow that you tie in front, 354 00:16:26,545 --> 00:16:28,425 Speaker 2: which again will make a suit look really different. So 355 00:16:28,625 --> 00:16:32,785 Speaker 2: you can reinvent a suit by simply reinventing how you 356 00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:35,625 Speaker 2: style it and what shirts or what blouses that you 357 00:16:35,665 --> 00:16:38,385 Speaker 2: put with it. The other thing as well is because 358 00:16:38,945 --> 00:16:43,265 Speaker 2: oversized jackets and oversized anything looks effortless and looks cool, 359 00:16:43,545 --> 00:16:47,225 Speaker 2: there is a way to also think about wearing items 360 00:16:47,225 --> 00:16:49,425 Speaker 2: a little bit bigger and just making it look like 361 00:16:49,465 --> 00:16:52,425 Speaker 2: it falls and hangs really comfortably on you as well. 362 00:16:52,425 --> 00:16:53,985 Speaker 2: There's something very confident about that. 363 00:16:54,225 --> 00:16:54,705 Speaker 1: I agree. 364 00:16:54,785 --> 00:16:56,225 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that we have to have like our 365 00:16:56,305 --> 00:16:58,505 Speaker 2: traditional ten year ago sort of fitted blazer and then 366 00:16:58,545 --> 00:17:00,105 Speaker 2: you wear you cool one on the weekend. You can 367 00:17:00,185 --> 00:17:02,585 Speaker 2: make them work for both totally. And you can also 368 00:17:02,625 --> 00:17:05,865 Speaker 2: bring to work a pair of heels if you're wearing 369 00:17:05,865 --> 00:17:08,425 Speaker 2: flats all day, and if you're going straight from work 370 00:17:08,585 --> 00:17:11,505 Speaker 2: to an evening part, you can easily just put on 371 00:17:11,545 --> 00:17:14,825 Speaker 2: a fantastic shoe, change the bag from a satchel or 372 00:17:14,865 --> 00:17:18,465 Speaker 2: whatever to an evening bag, and you can add some crystals, 373 00:17:18,465 --> 00:17:21,105 Speaker 2: put on neck pieces, do your hair up at the 374 00:17:21,145 --> 00:17:23,665 Speaker 2: makeup and maybe change the top or not even change 375 00:17:23,665 --> 00:17:26,105 Speaker 2: the top at a belt and then you know, you 376 00:17:26,145 --> 00:17:28,065 Speaker 2: really can style yourself up on the other end of 377 00:17:28,105 --> 00:17:31,145 Speaker 2: the scale every day wear. I mean I'm guilty of this. 378 00:17:31,225 --> 00:17:32,665 Speaker 2: I have a big wardrobe, but then a couple of 379 00:17:32,705 --> 00:17:35,385 Speaker 2: days a week I'm literally in my daggithliggings and my 380 00:17:35,425 --> 00:17:37,305 Speaker 2: balled up T shirts and I'm like, no one see 381 00:17:37,345 --> 00:17:39,025 Speaker 2: me today, and then that's when I bump into people. 382 00:17:39,105 --> 00:17:42,505 Speaker 2: So is there a key to still feeling put together? 383 00:17:43,105 --> 00:17:46,345 Speaker 2: And you know, just running around But you, like we 384 00:17:46,345 --> 00:17:48,185 Speaker 2: said before, you put in that little bit of extra 385 00:17:48,265 --> 00:17:50,665 Speaker 2: effort even if you're just running errands, and you feel 386 00:17:50,665 --> 00:17:52,305 Speaker 2: better for the day. You know you don't care if 387 00:17:52,305 --> 00:17:55,785 Speaker 2: you run into people. Well, I would never wear a 388 00:17:55,825 --> 00:17:58,785 Speaker 2: T shirt and tracksuit pants together. I'd wear a T shirt, 389 00:17:58,825 --> 00:18:01,465 Speaker 2: but i'd wear it with a dressy bottom. Or I'd 390 00:18:01,465 --> 00:18:03,745 Speaker 2: wear a tracksuit pants but i'd wear it with a blouse. 391 00:18:04,545 --> 00:18:06,905 Speaker 2: Blouse and a vase that yes, and a sandal. So 392 00:18:06,945 --> 00:18:09,385 Speaker 2: I think it's about how you coordinate the pieces together. 393 00:18:09,665 --> 00:18:12,825 Speaker 2: If you're wearing a T shirt and leggings and trackies, 394 00:18:13,305 --> 00:18:15,265 Speaker 2: then yes, you're going to look super casual and there's 395 00:18:15,305 --> 00:18:17,705 Speaker 2: no way around it. But if you mix it up 396 00:18:17,705 --> 00:18:20,865 Speaker 2: with items that aren't as casual, then you can definitely 397 00:18:20,865 --> 00:18:22,425 Speaker 2: do that. I mean, let's face it, you're in track is, 398 00:18:22,465 --> 00:18:24,265 Speaker 2: you don't want to change, but you can quickly within 399 00:18:24,305 --> 00:18:26,785 Speaker 2: thirty seconds, change your top, put on a shirt, put 400 00:18:26,825 --> 00:18:29,345 Speaker 2: on a Cutton shirt, pull the color up. That's why 401 00:18:29,385 --> 00:18:31,265 Speaker 2: my trench is hanging by the front door, because I'm like, 402 00:18:31,305 --> 00:18:33,265 Speaker 2: I can pretty much tide anything under my POI. 403 00:18:33,185 --> 00:18:33,905 Speaker 1: There's that trench. 404 00:18:34,065 --> 00:18:37,345 Speaker 2: Yeah. Obviously having a retail offering, do you shop anywhere else? 405 00:18:37,345 --> 00:18:41,425 Speaker 2: Do you shop in real life? What's your personal like shopping? 406 00:18:41,985 --> 00:18:44,825 Speaker 2: Obviously all of my clothes are from palor X, and 407 00:18:44,865 --> 00:18:48,345 Speaker 2: my bags and my shoes and my bits and my pieces, sunglasses, everything. However, 408 00:18:48,865 --> 00:18:52,705 Speaker 2: I do have two daughters and they love shopping, and 409 00:18:53,105 --> 00:18:56,425 Speaker 2: I am in the process of teaching them the value 410 00:18:56,745 --> 00:18:59,705 Speaker 2: of shopping. They do not have my budget and they 411 00:18:59,745 --> 00:19:02,745 Speaker 2: do not have access. I will pass bits and pieces 412 00:19:02,785 --> 00:19:05,305 Speaker 2: down to them, but I'm not passing anything precious just yet, 413 00:19:05,345 --> 00:19:07,145 Speaker 2: because I don't feel that they will look after it 414 00:19:07,185 --> 00:19:10,585 Speaker 2: well enough. So what we do as a family little excursion. 415 00:19:10,745 --> 00:19:14,185 Speaker 2: So after our Saturday netball, because both my girls play, 416 00:19:14,425 --> 00:19:16,945 Speaker 2: we at least once a month take a little trip 417 00:19:16,985 --> 00:19:21,185 Speaker 2: to Gleave markets. I started out exploring and understanding fashion 418 00:19:21,185 --> 00:19:23,985 Speaker 2: from the markets. So I am that old that I 419 00:19:24,105 --> 00:19:27,705 Speaker 2: remember Saturday mornings I'd go in exactly and it was 420 00:19:27,705 --> 00:19:29,585 Speaker 2: padding to markets. And that was back in the day 421 00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:32,345 Speaker 2: when Zimmermann started at the market. There were so many 422 00:19:32,425 --> 00:19:35,545 Speaker 2: different brands that started at the markets, and the markets 423 00:19:35,585 --> 00:19:37,665 Speaker 2: was a launching pad. It was also a place where 424 00:19:37,705 --> 00:19:40,345 Speaker 2: you could pick up inexpensive pieces, and you felt that 425 00:19:40,385 --> 00:19:44,625 Speaker 2: you were providing the vendors with their revenue for items 426 00:19:44,625 --> 00:19:48,065 Speaker 2: that they had potentially made themselves. And it didn't feel 427 00:19:48,065 --> 00:19:51,065 Speaker 2: that you were in this circular economy of fast fashion. 428 00:19:51,105 --> 00:19:54,145 Speaker 2: You feel you're contributing to something that was exactly. So 429 00:19:54,225 --> 00:19:56,705 Speaker 2: my kids shop a lot at the markets. We make 430 00:19:56,785 --> 00:20:00,345 Speaker 2: jewelry together. There there's little jewelry stations sometimes as well. 431 00:20:00,385 --> 00:20:03,385 Speaker 2: There are a few secondhand designer places, and so when 432 00:20:03,385 --> 00:20:05,745 Speaker 2: my kids want something that I'm not quite prepared to 433 00:20:05,785 --> 00:20:09,145 Speaker 2: pay that amount, sometimes we'll find it there and we'll 434 00:20:09,185 --> 00:20:12,065 Speaker 2: go home, wash it together, and we'll talk about the fabrication. 435 00:20:12,225 --> 00:20:15,145 Speaker 2: We'll talk about circular economy. For example, even brought in 436 00:20:15,185 --> 00:20:17,545 Speaker 2: with me today. Even though I have access to so 437 00:20:17,625 --> 00:20:22,425 Speaker 2: many pairs of sunglasses, I often buy a sunglass on back, 438 00:20:23,065 --> 00:20:25,865 Speaker 2: actually often a lot, but I've always got four or ms. Yeah, 439 00:20:25,905 --> 00:20:28,505 Speaker 2: so I've brought in these sunglasses to show you, and 440 00:20:28,545 --> 00:20:31,745 Speaker 2: it's quite funny. And because we do sell luxury sunglasses 441 00:20:31,745 --> 00:20:33,665 Speaker 2: and I wear them as well. Yes I'm a bit 442 00:20:33,665 --> 00:20:36,785 Speaker 2: of a sunglass but I will find styles in the 443 00:20:36,825 --> 00:20:40,585 Speaker 2: market that you can never ever find. Oh my god, 444 00:20:40,625 --> 00:20:43,665 Speaker 2: there's a fabulous anywhere else particulars. Oh they're so good 445 00:20:43,705 --> 00:20:46,225 Speaker 2: on you. And everybody asked me where I get them from. 446 00:20:46,265 --> 00:20:49,065 Speaker 2: They all think I'm going to rattle off some luxury 447 00:20:49,065 --> 00:20:51,185 Speaker 2: brown and probably like, okay, I couldn't see those in power. 448 00:20:51,345 --> 00:20:53,065 Speaker 2: So they come out exactly and they don't realize that 449 00:20:53,105 --> 00:20:54,705 Speaker 2: I spent ten dollars and pought them at the market. 450 00:20:54,745 --> 00:20:56,545 Speaker 2: So when I was there for my children, because I 451 00:20:56,625 --> 00:20:58,985 Speaker 2: do like the experience of shopping, I kind of can't 452 00:20:58,985 --> 00:21:02,545 Speaker 2: help myself and I start smelling people's perfumes or you know, 453 00:21:02,545 --> 00:21:05,345 Speaker 2: I bought really lovely anklet for myself from a guy 454 00:21:05,385 --> 00:21:08,385 Speaker 2: that was importing product from India, and you know, and 455 00:21:08,425 --> 00:21:10,865 Speaker 2: then there's other people that have chili oils and so 456 00:21:10,945 --> 00:21:13,425 Speaker 2: I like the markets because it reminds me of my 457 00:21:13,505 --> 00:21:16,945 Speaker 2: childhood and that's when I learned how to shop and 458 00:21:17,025 --> 00:21:18,905 Speaker 2: the value of shopping and the value. 459 00:21:18,785 --> 00:21:19,745 Speaker 1: For a community too. 460 00:21:19,825 --> 00:21:22,025 Speaker 2: Doesn't it like what it was back in the marketplace, 461 00:21:22,065 --> 00:21:24,505 Speaker 2: back in the day, where exactly meet the people behind, 462 00:21:24,545 --> 00:21:26,425 Speaker 2: you know, and you can ask those questions. 463 00:21:26,585 --> 00:21:30,265 Speaker 1: And sometimes some of the brands have little sales. 464 00:21:30,625 --> 00:21:32,665 Speaker 2: So you know, my daughter was so excited because the 465 00:21:32,665 --> 00:21:34,785 Speaker 2: swimwear brand that she loves was having a sale and 466 00:21:34,785 --> 00:21:36,785 Speaker 2: she was able to buy that. So, yeah, I love 467 00:21:36,825 --> 00:21:38,745 Speaker 2: the markets, and I agree with you one hundred percent 468 00:21:38,785 --> 00:21:41,465 Speaker 2: the community. There's often music playing and there's people there 469 00:21:41,465 --> 00:21:43,905 Speaker 2: and they're making food and often they've made it at 470 00:21:43,905 --> 00:21:45,825 Speaker 2: home and they're coming there. And also it feels quite 471 00:21:45,865 --> 00:21:49,145 Speaker 2: multicultural because the sine is from all different nationalities. I 472 00:21:49,185 --> 00:21:51,665 Speaker 2: really enjoy the market, So that's my low that you 473 00:21:52,065 --> 00:21:53,905 Speaker 2: inspired me to go. I haven't I do a lot 474 00:21:53,905 --> 00:21:55,745 Speaker 2: of thrifting, but I haven't been to a market in 475 00:21:55,825 --> 00:21:57,625 Speaker 2: quite a while, and that has inspired me to go 476 00:21:57,665 --> 00:21:59,945 Speaker 2: to some local ones soon. Now, quickly, before we get 477 00:21:59,945 --> 00:22:02,665 Speaker 2: onto bougie and budget. You mentioned fabrication a little bit 478 00:22:02,705 --> 00:22:05,025 Speaker 2: in teaching your daughters about that. Can you give us 479 00:22:05,345 --> 00:22:08,825 Speaker 2: some tips on fabrics that feel luxurious but that might 480 00:22:08,825 --> 00:22:12,025 Speaker 2: not be expensive, or fabrics that we should avoid. 481 00:22:12,145 --> 00:22:14,345 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's a whole topic in an Oma. 482 00:22:14,465 --> 00:22:17,065 Speaker 2: No because I'm glad because no, because what I might 483 00:22:17,185 --> 00:22:19,825 Speaker 2: say now could defy what a lot of other people 484 00:22:20,225 --> 00:22:25,505 Speaker 2: think and feel. So I do not believe that man 485 00:22:25,545 --> 00:22:28,145 Speaker 2: made fibers are all terrible. I love you, and I 486 00:22:28,185 --> 00:22:31,345 Speaker 2: do not believe that they all should or will end 487 00:22:31,465 --> 00:22:34,145 Speaker 2: up in landfill. And I say that because some of 488 00:22:34,185 --> 00:22:36,745 Speaker 2: the brands that I represent and that I've been stocking 489 00:22:36,785 --> 00:22:41,145 Speaker 2: for almost twenty five years, they don't use man made fibers. 490 00:22:41,225 --> 00:22:44,585 Speaker 2: And these are very highly creative brands that their pieces 491 00:22:44,585 --> 00:22:45,065 Speaker 2: have held the. 492 00:22:45,105 --> 00:22:45,745 Speaker 1: Value of time. 493 00:22:45,785 --> 00:22:48,785 Speaker 2: If you they are man made, No, they're not made made. 494 00:22:49,025 --> 00:22:49,985 Speaker 1: So this is what I'm saying. 495 00:22:50,065 --> 00:22:53,705 Speaker 2: So the thing is, some of these brands that have 496 00:22:54,185 --> 00:22:58,105 Speaker 2: incredible designs, if they were one hundred percent cotton, if 497 00:22:58,105 --> 00:23:00,785 Speaker 2: they were being washed over this twenty year period, they 498 00:23:00,825 --> 00:23:04,185 Speaker 2: would have disintegrated by now. And so some of these 499 00:23:04,545 --> 00:23:07,825 Speaker 2: pieces that are man made fibers, they've stood the test 500 00:23:07,825 --> 00:23:09,345 Speaker 2: of time, and I can hand those down to my 501 00:23:09,425 --> 00:23:11,625 Speaker 2: daughters and they will cherish them and they'll understand the 502 00:23:11,705 --> 00:23:12,265 Speaker 2: value of those. 503 00:23:12,505 --> 00:23:13,345 Speaker 1: So don't get me wrong. 504 00:23:13,425 --> 00:23:17,785 Speaker 2: I'm not entirely endorsing all man made fibers, and I'm 505 00:23:17,825 --> 00:23:21,385 Speaker 2: not entirely putting down natural made fibers, not at all. 506 00:23:21,465 --> 00:23:23,985 Speaker 2: I see the merit on both sides, and I also 507 00:23:24,065 --> 00:23:27,865 Speaker 2: see the complexities around both sides. What I will say 508 00:23:28,025 --> 00:23:31,065 Speaker 2: is there are some rayons and some viscosses that are 509 00:23:31,105 --> 00:23:33,385 Speaker 2: completely breathable, so very very. 510 00:23:33,265 --> 00:23:35,705 Speaker 1: Different to the boom or old fashion. 511 00:23:37,145 --> 00:23:42,425 Speaker 2: Yeah no, because rayons today and beautiful quality viscouses, your 512 00:23:42,465 --> 00:23:45,825 Speaker 2: skin breathes. There's you know, the perspiration doesn't necessarily go 513 00:23:45,905 --> 00:23:47,185 Speaker 2: hand in hand, and. 514 00:23:47,265 --> 00:23:48,265 Speaker 1: They're not creacible. 515 00:23:48,345 --> 00:23:50,545 Speaker 2: So you can put them in your suitcase, you can 516 00:23:50,585 --> 00:23:52,665 Speaker 2: go traveling. You can wear them at a meeting and 517 00:23:52,665 --> 00:23:54,625 Speaker 2: then go out at night and not worry that from 518 00:23:54,665 --> 00:23:57,425 Speaker 2: sitting all day you're going to have creases on your 519 00:23:57,465 --> 00:23:58,585 Speaker 2: pants or on your blouse. 520 00:23:58,945 --> 00:24:01,145 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of merit. And as long as. 521 00:24:00,985 --> 00:24:03,105 Speaker 2: They don't end up in ladfield. If they are a 522 00:24:03,105 --> 00:24:06,145 Speaker 2: beautiful quality, they shouldn't. They can be passed down or 523 00:24:06,145 --> 00:24:08,865 Speaker 2: they'll go into a circular economy's some sort. I have 524 00:24:08,905 --> 00:24:10,665 Speaker 2: to say that I have one blaze that I just 525 00:24:10,705 --> 00:24:12,865 Speaker 2: take for travel all the time. It's synthetic. I don't 526 00:24:12,865 --> 00:24:14,745 Speaker 2: know what it is, but it doesn't crush. It still 527 00:24:14,745 --> 00:24:16,425 Speaker 2: looks great. I can chuck it on the floor. I 528 00:24:16,465 --> 00:24:19,105 Speaker 2: can survive in the overhead locker and I get off 529 00:24:19,105 --> 00:24:21,105 Speaker 2: and it looks great. And I know I should have 530 00:24:21,145 --> 00:24:23,545 Speaker 2: a wall or whatever, but it depends. I think the 531 00:24:23,665 --> 00:24:25,585 Speaker 2: issue is when people feel that it's going to end 532 00:24:25,705 --> 00:24:27,825 Speaker 2: up in the landfield. That's when it's a problem. If 533 00:24:27,865 --> 00:24:29,705 Speaker 2: it feels like it's something that's going to last you 534 00:24:29,705 --> 00:24:31,865 Speaker 2: a lifetime or something that will end up back in 535 00:24:31,865 --> 00:24:34,385 Speaker 2: the circular economy. I think people are okay with that. 536 00:24:35,025 --> 00:24:38,065 Speaker 2: I think I agree, No, I agree absolutely. 537 00:24:49,665 --> 00:24:53,745 Speaker 3: It's very expensive, honey, How wondre these percent. 538 00:24:55,705 --> 00:24:57,945 Speaker 2: I'm going to go first because I chose my bougie 539 00:24:57,985 --> 00:25:00,825 Speaker 2: from the Parlor X website. I did my homework. 540 00:25:00,865 --> 00:25:01,585 Speaker 1: I'm so good. 541 00:25:02,305 --> 00:25:04,065 Speaker 2: I love a T shirt. I live in T shirts. 542 00:25:04,105 --> 00:25:06,945 Speaker 2: Not today, But I didn't know that Parlor X. You 543 00:25:06,945 --> 00:25:10,465 Speaker 2: do your own teas the Parlor X the XT they're 544 00:25:10,625 --> 00:25:13,305 Speaker 2: so fat, So did not expect you to say that? 545 00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:14,065 Speaker 1: Did you not know? 546 00:25:14,145 --> 00:25:16,865 Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm always a tea and a blazer one hundred 547 00:25:16,865 --> 00:25:19,265 Speaker 2: and twenty five dollars. So that's my bougie because obviously 548 00:25:19,265 --> 00:25:21,385 Speaker 2: you could go to uniclobe, but this is so cool. 549 00:25:21,665 --> 00:25:23,825 Speaker 1: What's your bougie? It can be very bougie. 550 00:25:24,105 --> 00:25:25,825 Speaker 2: Well, I brought it with me today and that's my 551 00:25:25,905 --> 00:25:29,465 Speaker 2: bag about her, Yeah, so I brought her. 552 00:25:29,465 --> 00:25:32,705 Speaker 1: Because she's my bougie. Usually it's a bag, okay. 553 00:25:32,385 --> 00:25:36,625 Speaker 2: So you know it's because often the bags, even if 554 00:25:36,665 --> 00:25:40,305 Speaker 2: they're very, very discreeched, people can recognize them absolutely. So 555 00:25:40,465 --> 00:25:42,665 Speaker 2: the bag is often a bit of a bougie giveaway. 556 00:25:42,825 --> 00:25:43,825 Speaker 1: So you stock a liar. 557 00:25:44,025 --> 00:25:46,785 Speaker 2: I do. We've had a liar since the beginning of 558 00:25:46,825 --> 00:25:49,665 Speaker 2: Parlor X almost so it's one of our most important 559 00:25:49,745 --> 00:25:51,705 Speaker 2: partnerships and we have it exclusively. 560 00:25:52,025 --> 00:25:53,945 Speaker 1: Do you know the style name? Yeah, this is called 561 00:25:53,945 --> 00:25:54,345 Speaker 1: the Teckle. 562 00:25:54,745 --> 00:25:57,105 Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's it's almost okay, I'm going to butcher this, 563 00:25:57,105 --> 00:25:58,665 Speaker 2: but it's almost like a pencil case. 564 00:25:58,665 --> 00:25:59,225 Speaker 1: It's like a bag. 565 00:25:59,225 --> 00:26:02,185 Speaker 2: It sort of shape, very wearable strap, not uncomfortable. Well 566 00:26:02,185 --> 00:26:04,625 Speaker 2: that was the whole point. It fits so much and 567 00:26:04,665 --> 00:26:06,505 Speaker 2: it's quite smart, so you can wear it in the 568 00:26:06,545 --> 00:26:09,305 Speaker 2: evening if you're going from data. It's actually very versatile. 569 00:26:09,305 --> 00:26:12,305 Speaker 2: And yeah, it's the longest straps under layers. 570 00:26:12,705 --> 00:26:14,625 Speaker 1: Uh, oh, you've sold me. Okay. 571 00:26:14,705 --> 00:26:17,545 Speaker 2: My budget are a pair of pants that I found 572 00:26:17,625 --> 00:26:21,465 Speaker 2: on the Iconic. Now I love Mango or MNG for 573 00:26:21,545 --> 00:26:24,385 Speaker 2: some high street stuff. The Iconic gets a bit of 574 00:26:24,385 --> 00:26:26,745 Speaker 2: it here, but you can also shop online from overseas. 575 00:26:26,745 --> 00:26:29,065 Speaker 2: But these are just called the Grace Trousers one hundred 576 00:26:29,065 --> 00:26:31,745 Speaker 2: and fifty nine ninety five dollars and they're just a 577 00:26:31,825 --> 00:26:35,585 Speaker 2: really simple sort of tablet at the ankle, not quite 578 00:26:35,585 --> 00:26:37,705 Speaker 2: a barrel because it's not a gene. But I just 579 00:26:37,705 --> 00:26:39,745 Speaker 2: feel like those could be a really good classic pair 580 00:26:39,745 --> 00:26:42,145 Speaker 2: of pants that people could wear with a t shirt, 581 00:26:42,145 --> 00:26:44,585 Speaker 2: with a tank, with a denim jacket, with your trench. 582 00:26:45,025 --> 00:26:47,305 Speaker 2: So they're my budget lovely. 583 00:26:47,385 --> 00:26:48,105 Speaker 1: What about you? Are you? 584 00:26:48,145 --> 00:26:50,665 Speaker 2: Are they your market Sonny's. It is my market, Sunny. 585 00:26:50,905 --> 00:26:53,625 Speaker 2: It's actually not just my market, Sunny's. I also have 586 00:26:53,705 --> 00:26:57,465 Speaker 2: my market anklet, and I have some bracelets sometimes if 587 00:26:57,505 --> 00:26:59,465 Speaker 2: I want to have a bit of a bohemian feel, 588 00:26:59,945 --> 00:27:03,545 Speaker 2: I've got quite a few really cool bracelets. 589 00:27:03,025 --> 00:27:04,305 Speaker 1: That I buy at the markets. 590 00:27:04,345 --> 00:27:07,225 Speaker 2: And sometimes if I want to buy the kids just 591 00:27:07,265 --> 00:27:09,625 Speaker 2: a little treat, it'll be a trinket from the market 592 00:27:09,985 --> 00:27:14,225 Speaker 2: along with my suscelasses are fabulous. I need the pink 593 00:27:14,265 --> 00:27:16,185 Speaker 2: pear but with a darker frame. But yeah, I'm going 594 00:27:16,185 --> 00:27:17,065 Speaker 2: to head to the markets. 595 00:27:17,345 --> 00:27:17,625 Speaker 1: EVA. 596 00:27:17,745 --> 00:27:20,985 Speaker 2: Congratulations on such a long standing career through all of 597 00:27:20,985 --> 00:27:23,305 Speaker 2: the ups and downs and long mate continue. 598 00:27:23,345 --> 00:27:24,785 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me, Thank you to. 599 00:27:25,385 --> 00:27:27,865 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear, and don't 600 00:27:27,865 --> 00:27:29,745 Speaker 2: forget to sign up to the Nothing to Wear News 601 00:27:29,745 --> 00:27:32,025 Speaker 2: that aren't There's a link in the show notes. This 602 00:27:32,105 --> 00:27:35,665 Speaker 2: episode was produced by Cassie Merritt, with audio production by 603 00:27:35,705 --> 00:27:36,225 Speaker 2: Lou Hill.