1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,064 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,144 --> 00:00:18,824 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,904 --> 00:00:20,544 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,344 --> 00:00:28,224 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop 5 00:00:28,264 --> 00:00:28,984 Speaker 2: culture fix. 6 00:00:29,184 --> 00:00:31,264 Speaker 1: I'm Burnam and I'm Laura Brodnick. 7 00:00:31,544 --> 00:00:34,664 Speaker 2: On the show today, Paul Mescal, my favorite person in 8 00:00:34,704 --> 00:00:39,384 Speaker 2: the whole world, has finally addressed a rumor that we're 9 00:00:39,424 --> 00:00:43,104 Speaker 2: not too convinced that he's right about this. We also 10 00:00:43,224 --> 00:00:47,024 Speaker 2: talk about Victoria's Secret fashion show and whether or not 11 00:00:47,064 --> 00:00:49,104 Speaker 2: it's lived up to the high. We have some feedback 12 00:00:49,144 --> 00:00:49,784 Speaker 2: for these girls. 13 00:00:49,944 --> 00:00:53,624 Speaker 1: But first, I've had a very interesting week you have. 14 00:00:54,144 --> 00:00:55,784 Speaker 1: Oh why do you sound so suspicious? 15 00:00:55,984 --> 00:00:59,064 Speaker 2: Because I knew you had an interesting week, but I 16 00:00:59,064 --> 00:01:01,144 Speaker 2: didn't see you having an interesting week. 17 00:01:01,264 --> 00:01:03,824 Speaker 1: Yes, I need to explain about that to the naked eye, 18 00:01:03,944 --> 00:01:06,184 Speaker 1: to someone not in the no, it could look like 19 00:01:06,264 --> 00:01:08,104 Speaker 1: we were in some sort of a feud or a 20 00:01:08,184 --> 00:01:11,704 Speaker 1: secrecy because I did block you. We were actually I 21 00:01:11,784 --> 00:01:14,184 Speaker 1: blocked you from seeing my Instagram stories because I wanted 22 00:01:14,184 --> 00:01:15,304 Speaker 1: you to hear the story first. 23 00:01:15,584 --> 00:01:18,704 Speaker 2: There's firstly, nothing worse than being blocked on Instagram, but 24 00:01:18,744 --> 00:01:22,384 Speaker 2: then only from story someone telling you on Instagram. 25 00:01:22,384 --> 00:01:25,304 Speaker 1: It's a real power move because I didn't want you 26 00:01:25,384 --> 00:01:28,384 Speaker 1: to know until this moment, about the moment this week 27 00:01:28,464 --> 00:01:32,784 Speaker 1: that I met a young lady named Olivia Rodrigu your 28 00:01:32,824 --> 00:01:35,104 Speaker 1: new bestie, my new bestie. Can I just say I 29 00:01:35,184 --> 00:01:38,544 Speaker 1: do feel that way If I've ever had a parasocial 30 00:01:38,584 --> 00:01:41,544 Speaker 1: relationship with a celebrity, this is it. We're in the 31 00:01:41,544 --> 00:01:43,304 Speaker 1: thick of it now. So let me set the scene. 32 00:01:43,384 --> 00:01:43,744 Speaker 2: Okay. 33 00:01:43,944 --> 00:01:46,984 Speaker 1: I had already been very kindly invited by Universal Music 34 00:01:46,984 --> 00:01:49,984 Speaker 1: in Australia to go and watch Olivia on her Thursday 35 00:01:50,064 --> 00:01:52,464 Speaker 1: night show when she's in Sydney, very excited about that, 36 00:01:52,864 --> 00:01:56,664 Speaker 1: and then I got an extra little sneaky invitation. 37 00:01:56,864 --> 00:01:59,424 Speaker 2: This is what you need everyone. If you want this 38 00:01:59,584 --> 00:02:02,504 Speaker 2: type of access, just be a head of entertainment for 39 00:02:02,744 --> 00:02:03,504 Speaker 2: a media company. 40 00:02:03,504 --> 00:02:05,584 Speaker 1: It only took me fifteen years to get yo, if 41 00:02:05,624 --> 00:02:07,584 Speaker 1: you will. Yes, that is what I get called around 42 00:02:07,624 --> 00:02:09,864 Speaker 1: the office. So I was invited to a bit of 43 00:02:09,864 --> 00:02:12,984 Speaker 1: a launch, a sneak peek of the Guts pop up experience, 44 00:02:13,264 --> 00:02:15,624 Speaker 1: which is something that they just like the name of 45 00:02:15,664 --> 00:02:17,624 Speaker 1: her album. Yes, Guts as in like they put a 46 00:02:17,624 --> 00:02:19,264 Speaker 1: Gut sticker on my arm and I can't get it off. 47 00:02:19,344 --> 00:02:20,544 Speaker 1: That's it beautiful. 48 00:02:20,704 --> 00:02:22,104 Speaker 2: You did that on purpose. 49 00:02:22,424 --> 00:02:26,064 Speaker 1: So it's running till the twentieth of October in Sydney, 50 00:02:26,144 --> 00:02:28,144 Speaker 1: So if you're hearing this in time, you have time 51 00:02:28,224 --> 00:02:30,824 Speaker 1: to get down to Wash Bay And it's basically this 52 00:02:30,944 --> 00:02:34,984 Speaker 1: big activation where it's like pretty much an Instagram tiktoker's 53 00:02:35,064 --> 00:02:38,024 Speaker 1: dream or anyone who's a fan of Olivia Rodrigo. They've 54 00:02:38,064 --> 00:02:40,264 Speaker 1: all these different rooms set up. They've got this room 55 00:02:40,264 --> 00:02:42,024 Speaker 1: it's like a school bathroom and they gave us pens 56 00:02:42,064 --> 00:02:44,944 Speaker 1: and you can write yeah on the mirror on the 57 00:02:44,984 --> 00:02:47,904 Speaker 1: walls like a prom room almost. We can have pictures taken. 58 00:02:47,984 --> 00:02:49,864 Speaker 1: I sat on like a cresset moon. I have pictures 59 00:02:50,224 --> 00:02:52,344 Speaker 1: and they had like these guts cocktails and like just 60 00:02:52,384 --> 00:02:54,384 Speaker 1: all this stuff. And I thought it was going to 61 00:02:54,424 --> 00:02:55,904 Speaker 1: be just like you go in and like you can 62 00:02:55,904 --> 00:02:57,664 Speaker 1: see all the merch you can buy, because that's what 63 00:02:57,704 --> 00:03:00,904 Speaker 1: it's for, you know, so people can buy souveni marketings, yeah, 64 00:03:00,904 --> 00:03:03,504 Speaker 1: and also have this experience kind of like in her world. 65 00:03:03,984 --> 00:03:05,304 Speaker 1: And I thought it was going to be just that, 66 00:03:05,424 --> 00:03:07,664 Speaker 1: and then we got there and they were like, oh no, no, 67 00:03:07,704 --> 00:03:08,984 Speaker 1: you can come over and meet her. 68 00:03:09,384 --> 00:03:10,224 Speaker 2: What was she doing something on. 69 00:03:10,824 --> 00:03:12,544 Speaker 1: No, no, no you thought that. No, she was actually on 70 00:03:12,544 --> 00:03:15,744 Speaker 1: a little platform, which really cute. It just happened quite quickly. 71 00:03:15,544 --> 00:03:17,024 Speaker 2: Kind of like when you go to greet the Pope. 72 00:03:17,384 --> 00:03:20,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, it did feel like people were lighting up to 73 00:03:20,144 --> 00:03:22,504 Speaker 1: see the queen and like have a blessing bestowed upon them, 74 00:03:22,584 --> 00:03:25,384 Speaker 1: but lived up to the hype. So it's like all 75 00:03:25,464 --> 00:03:27,064 Speaker 1: of a sudden they had like put my bag, put 76 00:03:27,064 --> 00:03:29,104 Speaker 1: my phone away, so I couldn't take a picture, but 77 00:03:29,424 --> 00:03:31,504 Speaker 1: the photographer was there, and then all of a sudden, 78 00:03:31,624 --> 00:03:34,744 Speaker 1: Olivia Rodrigo's standing there and she just looked so like 79 00:03:35,144 --> 00:03:36,624 Speaker 1: glowy and etherol And. 80 00:03:36,864 --> 00:03:38,824 Speaker 2: Is it like kind of like teeny tiny girl. 81 00:03:39,104 --> 00:03:41,464 Speaker 1: No, that's what I thought, but she told that's the well. 82 00:03:41,504 --> 00:03:43,664 Speaker 1: I mean everyone short to me because I'm really tall, 83 00:03:43,664 --> 00:03:46,024 Speaker 1: but no, no, she has tall girl energy. She has 84 00:03:46,104 --> 00:03:49,064 Speaker 1: like star power. It feels silly to say, but like 85 00:03:49,464 --> 00:03:51,704 Speaker 1: she was so in control. It's like all of a sudden, 86 00:03:51,744 --> 00:03:54,344 Speaker 1: I got nervous around her, and I never get nervous, 87 00:03:54,384 --> 00:03:57,104 Speaker 1: but it was just so much, and I think she's 88 00:03:57,144 --> 00:03:59,264 Speaker 1: just so control of the situation. I walked over and 89 00:03:59,304 --> 00:04:03,784 Speaker 1: I was like, hi, like or good older art here, 90 00:04:03,944 --> 00:04:06,224 Speaker 1: like greet you and she was just staying there in 91 00:04:06,224 --> 00:04:09,424 Speaker 1: this like white mini dress, red glittery like ballet flats. 92 00:04:09,544 --> 00:04:11,624 Speaker 1: Wow kind of star. And the first thing she did 93 00:04:11,664 --> 00:04:13,784 Speaker 1: is she like kind of like walked towards me and said, 94 00:04:14,264 --> 00:04:17,424 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, your hair is so beautiful and you 95 00:04:17,464 --> 00:04:18,504 Speaker 1: look so amazing. 96 00:04:18,824 --> 00:04:20,864 Speaker 2: Oh my god, and you didn't even have the extensions in, no, 97 00:04:21,064 --> 00:04:22,024 Speaker 2: your natural hair. 98 00:04:22,144 --> 00:04:25,144 Speaker 1: Because this is the thing I think, Olivia Rodrigo might 99 00:04:25,224 --> 00:04:29,464 Speaker 1: have healed my biggest inity insecurity about myself, which is 100 00:04:29,504 --> 00:04:31,584 Speaker 1: my hair, because a few years ago I yanked my 101 00:04:31,624 --> 00:04:33,944 Speaker 1: own hair extensions out because they were nodded. The day 102 00:04:33,984 --> 00:04:36,464 Speaker 1: before I was interviewing Melissa McCarthy for The Little Mermaid, 103 00:04:36,504 --> 00:04:38,624 Speaker 1: so I looked shithouse in that interview, and I mean 104 00:04:38,624 --> 00:04:40,304 Speaker 1: trying to grow my own hair out and be okay 105 00:04:40,344 --> 00:04:41,784 Speaker 1: with her, and it is not nice hair. 106 00:04:42,024 --> 00:04:44,624 Speaker 2: For the record, Laura Ronnick has great hair. It is 107 00:04:44,824 --> 00:04:45,664 Speaker 2: very very internal. 108 00:04:45,744 --> 00:04:47,904 Speaker 1: Well, I believe it now because Olivia, I never believed you, 109 00:04:47,944 --> 00:04:50,624 Speaker 1: but I believe Olivia Rodrigo. The one lady you met 110 00:04:50,624 --> 00:04:52,704 Speaker 1: for like two seconds, and all of a sudden I 111 00:04:52,704 --> 00:04:54,784 Speaker 1: forgot that we were like in a public setting, and 112 00:04:54,824 --> 00:04:57,304 Speaker 1: I leaned over and grasped her arm. I can't believe 113 00:04:57,304 --> 00:04:59,064 Speaker 1: her security and grabbed me and they probably tried to 114 00:04:59,144 --> 00:05:01,904 Speaker 1: but then like I leaned over and grabbed trauma. I said, 115 00:05:01,904 --> 00:05:04,824 Speaker 1: oh my god, Olivia, I'm gonna live off that comment forever. 116 00:05:04,904 --> 00:05:07,824 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. And she was like she was 117 00:05:07,864 --> 00:05:09,424 Speaker 1: so nice. She was like, oh my god, yeah, I 118 00:05:09,544 --> 00:05:11,784 Speaker 1: really mean it. And then I was like, oh, I 119 00:05:11,824 --> 00:05:13,184 Speaker 1: just used Why did I say this? 120 00:05:13,264 --> 00:05:15,184 Speaker 2: Why I gave her your whole harotine. 121 00:05:15,264 --> 00:05:16,984 Speaker 1: No, I don't have a haroutine. I did. I just 122 00:05:17,064 --> 00:05:19,064 Speaker 1: use a fourteen dollar hot roller from Kmart. 123 00:05:19,184 --> 00:05:21,064 Speaker 2: Okay, she she was like, what's Camart? 124 00:05:22,264 --> 00:05:24,664 Speaker 1: No, she didn't say that. She's like, ah, she was 125 00:05:24,864 --> 00:05:27,344 Speaker 1: so nice. At this point, I realized I'm standing over 126 00:05:27,344 --> 00:05:29,704 Speaker 1: her because I'm super talk and I'm holding her arm. 127 00:05:29,784 --> 00:05:31,424 Speaker 1: So then I came back to my senses and I 128 00:05:31,424 --> 00:05:33,984 Speaker 1: stepped back. I just thought she was treating me so 129 00:05:34,104 --> 00:05:35,704 Speaker 1: nice because she thought I was a crazy fan and 130 00:05:35,744 --> 00:05:37,744 Speaker 1: I am a fan. But I also I wanted to 131 00:05:37,744 --> 00:05:39,904 Speaker 1: tell her like I'm here because I'm mediately I meet 132 00:05:39,944 --> 00:05:42,584 Speaker 1: famous people. This is so bad, famous people all the time. 133 00:05:42,904 --> 00:05:44,744 Speaker 1: What I wanted to say, and I don't usually act. 134 00:05:44,624 --> 00:05:47,104 Speaker 2: Like this, I think second hand and bashma right now. 135 00:05:47,184 --> 00:05:49,384 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, and then we turned like took a picture 136 00:05:49,424 --> 00:05:52,144 Speaker 1: and stuff. And then my little sister Lucy is a 137 00:05:52,224 --> 00:05:54,344 Speaker 1: huge fan of her, and every time she picks me 138 00:05:54,424 --> 00:05:56,344 Speaker 1: up from the airport in Queensland when I visit once 139 00:05:56,384 --> 00:05:58,784 Speaker 1: a month, we play Olivia Rodrigo and like scream along 140 00:05:58,784 --> 00:06:00,864 Speaker 1: to Vampire and so I told her that, and she 141 00:06:00,904 --> 00:06:04,304 Speaker 1: was like, that's so cute, and then I walked away. 142 00:06:04,384 --> 00:06:06,464 Speaker 2: I love that. I reckon she would have loved that interaction. 143 00:06:06,624 --> 00:06:09,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting because it's weird to be quite 144 00:06:09,144 --> 00:06:11,664 Speaker 1: fan curly over like a young women. I don't know, 145 00:06:12,144 --> 00:06:12,744 Speaker 1: but I think. 146 00:06:12,624 --> 00:06:15,144 Speaker 2: It's weirder if you weren't fan girl. Yeah, Like I 147 00:06:15,184 --> 00:06:17,344 Speaker 2: think it makes you feel a bit like you're too 148 00:06:17,384 --> 00:06:19,104 Speaker 2: good to be like a fan. 149 00:06:19,384 --> 00:06:19,584 Speaker 1: Yeah. 150 00:06:19,744 --> 00:06:21,904 Speaker 2: I like that guy who interviewed Adell and didn't I 151 00:06:22,024 --> 00:06:23,344 Speaker 2: told her he didn't listen to a song. 152 00:06:23,344 --> 00:06:25,344 Speaker 1: If we don't want that, well, I think there's nothing 153 00:06:25,344 --> 00:06:27,584 Speaker 1: more fun than being a fan and like finding something 154 00:06:27,584 --> 00:06:29,624 Speaker 1: that you love, or finding music or movies or TV 155 00:06:29,704 --> 00:06:32,184 Speaker 1: shows that you love. But I think also she has 156 00:06:32,184 --> 00:06:33,624 Speaker 1: that thing, and like I haven't met tell Us with 157 00:06:33,744 --> 00:06:34,824 Speaker 1: but I think she has it too. But there's a 158 00:06:34,824 --> 00:06:37,184 Speaker 1: few other celebrities i've met where they have that thing 159 00:06:37,184 --> 00:06:39,184 Speaker 1: where you just like, this is a bit cheesy, but 160 00:06:39,184 --> 00:06:40,784 Speaker 1: you just like, oh, you were kind of born to 161 00:06:40,824 --> 00:06:43,224 Speaker 1: be famous. You had that thing where you just seemed 162 00:06:43,304 --> 00:06:44,784 Speaker 1: like radio kind of was right. 163 00:06:44,864 --> 00:06:47,424 Speaker 2: Like she was a Disney kid. She started really young 164 00:06:47,504 --> 00:06:50,864 Speaker 2: in high school musical the musical. Yeah, and so I'm 165 00:06:50,904 --> 00:06:52,624 Speaker 2: assuming like that's all she has known so far. 166 00:06:52,784 --> 00:06:54,984 Speaker 1: Well, I again, have met a lot of famous people 167 00:06:54,984 --> 00:06:56,504 Speaker 1: in this line of work, and there are some people 168 00:06:56,504 --> 00:06:59,464 Speaker 1: who are absolute superstars and you meet them in person, 169 00:06:59,544 --> 00:07:01,984 Speaker 1: they just had this air where they just always feel 170 00:07:02,264 --> 00:07:04,064 Speaker 1: it's like you're a good actor, but you were never 171 00:07:04,104 --> 00:07:05,944 Speaker 1: really meant to be famous, or you're a good singer, 172 00:07:05,984 --> 00:07:07,824 Speaker 1: but you were never meant to be like have this 173 00:07:07,944 --> 00:07:09,544 Speaker 1: many people know who you are, and you can just 174 00:07:09,584 --> 00:07:11,824 Speaker 1: feel that they always feel a bit on edge and 175 00:07:11,864 --> 00:07:13,584 Speaker 1: a bit closed off, and sometimes they come. 176 00:07:13,464 --> 00:07:14,584 Speaker 2: Across like ed cheering. 177 00:07:14,944 --> 00:07:16,544 Speaker 1: Oh I haven't met it, Churan, so I don't know, 178 00:07:16,624 --> 00:07:18,824 Speaker 1: but it's like they make the room feel smaller because 179 00:07:18,864 --> 00:07:22,104 Speaker 1: everyone's stressed around them, Whereas with Olivia Rico, she made 180 00:07:22,144 --> 00:07:25,944 Speaker 1: the room feel big because she was so nice. Okay, 181 00:07:25,984 --> 00:07:28,544 Speaker 1: and anyway, that's it. That was my meeting with Olivia Rodrigo's. 182 00:07:28,544 --> 00:07:30,864 Speaker 1: But because I've got no chill. Whatever I meet famous people, 183 00:07:30,864 --> 00:07:33,504 Speaker 1: I immediately go into my Instagram account and my stories 184 00:07:33,704 --> 00:07:35,224 Speaker 1: and I put a little recap on there. And I 185 00:07:35,224 --> 00:07:36,824 Speaker 1: didn't want you to see that last night, because one, 186 00:07:36,864 --> 00:07:38,144 Speaker 1: I want you to think I'm cool. Wh I didn't 187 00:07:38,144 --> 00:07:40,304 Speaker 1: want you to see that, But that ship is sailed now. 188 00:07:40,504 --> 00:07:42,264 Speaker 1: And two I wanted to tell you on the Boss 189 00:07:42,304 --> 00:07:42,544 Speaker 1: thank you. 190 00:07:42,544 --> 00:07:43,424 Speaker 2: Can you unblock me now? 191 00:07:43,464 --> 00:07:44,224 Speaker 1: Oh? Thank you. 192 00:07:46,704 --> 00:07:51,744 Speaker 2: Paul mescul has recently done an interview with GQ magazine. 193 00:07:51,744 --> 00:07:54,304 Speaker 2: It's one of those massive, like profile interviews that took 194 00:07:54,304 --> 00:07:58,104 Speaker 2: two days where the writer like talks about the scenery 195 00:07:58,184 --> 00:08:00,424 Speaker 2: and the park they were sitting in and his demeanor 196 00:08:00,464 --> 00:08:03,584 Speaker 2: and what he was wearing. It's very picturesque. And he 197 00:08:03,704 --> 00:08:06,744 Speaker 2: was doing this talking about like his work, especially Gladiated 198 00:08:06,784 --> 00:08:09,144 Speaker 2: that's coming out that we're both going to be going. 199 00:08:08,984 --> 00:08:11,024 Speaker 1: To We're going to be in the same room, is Paul, 200 00:08:11,104 --> 00:08:11,744 Speaker 1: You're excited. 201 00:08:11,944 --> 00:08:16,504 Speaker 2: I'm very excited. So in the entire interview, there was 202 00:08:16,664 --> 00:08:22,024 Speaker 2: a particular rumor that he addressed, and this rumor has 203 00:08:22,064 --> 00:08:25,224 Speaker 2: been something that has just taken over my entire life, 204 00:08:25,424 --> 00:08:27,984 Speaker 2: Like it's the one thing that I'm like, this makes 205 00:08:28,024 --> 00:08:30,504 Speaker 2: the most sense for a man in his demeanor. Yeah, 206 00:08:30,704 --> 00:08:32,984 Speaker 2: so I'm gonna set the scene of this rumor in 207 00:08:32,984 --> 00:08:35,824 Speaker 2: case you're not aware of it. Okay, you meet Paul Mescal. 208 00:08:36,664 --> 00:08:40,344 Speaker 2: He's infatuated by you. He loves you. I believe he's obsessed. 209 00:08:40,424 --> 00:08:42,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I did look out my window and see him. 210 00:08:42,384 --> 00:08:44,744 Speaker 2: You did, you did, so pretend that happened and he 211 00:08:44,784 --> 00:08:45,184 Speaker 2: sees you. 212 00:08:45,264 --> 00:08:46,704 Speaker 1: He wasn't there to see me. Everyone, he was in 213 00:08:46,744 --> 00:08:48,544 Speaker 1: the pub next to my house, but same same, he 214 00:08:48,584 --> 00:08:49,544 Speaker 1: sees you. 215 00:08:49,544 --> 00:08:52,784 Speaker 2: You get on, He's like, let's go back to yours. Yeah, 216 00:08:52,784 --> 00:08:55,424 Speaker 2: it's pretty rights, it's right next door of your upstairs, 217 00:08:55,464 --> 00:08:58,864 Speaker 2: like Rapunzel, it's pretty sexy. You have the best night 218 00:08:58,904 --> 00:08:59,384 Speaker 2: of your life. 219 00:08:59,584 --> 00:09:00,024 Speaker 1: I bet. 220 00:09:00,224 --> 00:09:02,504 Speaker 2: The next morning he's like, let's keep this going. Let's 221 00:09:02,544 --> 00:09:04,504 Speaker 2: keep this going. Let's go for a nice little walk 222 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:05,904 Speaker 2: in the park, might get a coffee. 223 00:09:06,104 --> 00:09:06,784 Speaker 1: It's very romantic. 224 00:09:06,864 --> 00:09:09,064 Speaker 2: Let's just go like, enjoy the sun. Let's enjoy being 225 00:09:09,064 --> 00:09:12,104 Speaker 2: outdoors together right with you. So you're walking in Hyde Park, 226 00:09:12,184 --> 00:09:14,864 Speaker 2: you know Hyde Park, Hyde Park, or you're walking around. 227 00:09:15,264 --> 00:09:17,624 Speaker 2: He's like, oh my god, look at that beautiful bird. 228 00:09:18,104 --> 00:09:20,504 Speaker 2: You look at the bird. It is quite beautiful. You're 229 00:09:20,544 --> 00:09:23,144 Speaker 2: like turn to him and go, that is a beautiful bird. 230 00:09:23,264 --> 00:09:27,424 Speaker 2: But Paul's not there. Where did he go, Paul? You 231 00:09:27,464 --> 00:09:32,344 Speaker 2: look around in the distance you see a man looking 232 00:09:32,424 --> 00:09:35,384 Speaker 2: exactly like Paul Mescal in his short shorts and his 233 00:09:35,744 --> 00:09:38,984 Speaker 2: little T shirt with his chain thumping against his chest, 234 00:09:39,344 --> 00:09:44,304 Speaker 2: just sprinting, sprinting in the opposite direction, train legs, just 235 00:09:44,384 --> 00:09:49,024 Speaker 2: pumping away. So this was a real rumor that took 236 00:09:49,104 --> 00:09:51,784 Speaker 2: off when Paul Mescal started to become famous. It took 237 00:09:51,784 --> 00:09:55,504 Speaker 2: off in I would say TikTok, where people started saying 238 00:09:55,624 --> 00:09:59,304 Speaker 2: that Paul Mescal hooks up with these women and then 239 00:09:59,464 --> 00:10:03,024 Speaker 2: takes them for a walk the next morning and. 240 00:10:02,584 --> 00:10:05,184 Speaker 1: Runs away and like takes a few twists and turns, 241 00:10:05,224 --> 00:10:07,264 Speaker 1: like throw them off the track so they can't find it. 242 00:10:07,224 --> 00:10:12,384 Speaker 2: And leaves them alone in these and this like. 243 00:10:12,384 --> 00:10:14,904 Speaker 1: Moved off TikTok, and whenever there were articles about it 244 00:10:15,064 --> 00:10:16,824 Speaker 1: just became We talked about it many times. We've talked 245 00:10:16,824 --> 00:10:18,464 Speaker 1: about so many times, and even we found he was 246 00:10:18,504 --> 00:10:20,544 Speaker 1: coming to Australia. Everyone's like, look out for a park 247 00:10:20,544 --> 00:10:24,304 Speaker 1: near you because you'll see Paul Mescal after the Gladiator premiere. 248 00:10:24,024 --> 00:10:26,624 Speaker 2: Running through the streets from some poor. 249 00:10:26,504 --> 00:10:29,064 Speaker 1: Woman who's like, wait, maybe he's coming back. 250 00:10:29,624 --> 00:10:34,064 Speaker 2: So the interview with Gabriella, she brings up this momentous 251 00:10:34,104 --> 00:10:36,264 Speaker 2: moment for poor Mescal, which is how I feel like 252 00:10:36,304 --> 00:10:39,024 Speaker 2: he relates to every gen z, Like that's every young person. 253 00:10:39,104 --> 00:10:41,984 Speaker 2: He doesn't isn't familiar with his work, like myself knows 254 00:10:42,024 --> 00:10:44,384 Speaker 2: him for this one moment. So she asked him about 255 00:10:44,424 --> 00:10:48,624 Speaker 2: this rumor, and the way she describes his reply is 256 00:10:48,784 --> 00:10:53,744 Speaker 2: so funny to me. She says, Oh, he moans head 257 00:10:53,784 --> 00:10:56,544 Speaker 2: in hands when I bring it up. He stays there 258 00:10:56,544 --> 00:10:59,064 Speaker 2: for a while, belly laughing and turning red. 259 00:10:59,464 --> 00:11:00,064 Speaker 1: Fucking hell. 260 00:11:02,624 --> 00:11:05,424 Speaker 2: He talked about how he first saw those videos around 261 00:11:05,464 --> 00:11:08,024 Speaker 2: the holidays when he was with his siblings and family, 262 00:11:08,424 --> 00:11:10,344 Speaker 2: and he was saying that they were watching the videos 263 00:11:10,384 --> 00:11:13,104 Speaker 2: and like pissing themselves laughing. He said that they were 264 00:11:13,184 --> 00:11:17,344 Speaker 2: categorically untrue and they were just like laughing so hard. 265 00:11:17,904 --> 00:11:20,064 Speaker 2: But they then said this one thing that kind of 266 00:11:20,144 --> 00:11:24,224 Speaker 2: upset him, which is so true, was that his mom 267 00:11:24,504 --> 00:11:29,264 Speaker 2: saw the videos. And it's like every other person's mum, right, 268 00:11:29,664 --> 00:11:33,384 Speaker 2: moms don't understand memes. I don't understand rumors and funny stuff. 269 00:11:33,424 --> 00:11:36,824 Speaker 2: They don't understand the concept of TikTok. So she was 270 00:11:36,864 --> 00:11:40,064 Speaker 2: watching these videos and getting quite upset as my son 271 00:11:40,104 --> 00:11:42,264 Speaker 2: would never do that, and he had to like fully 272 00:11:42,304 --> 00:11:43,904 Speaker 2: explain to her like, no, this is just like a 273 00:11:43,944 --> 00:11:45,464 Speaker 2: funny like rumor. 274 00:11:45,264 --> 00:11:47,344 Speaker 1: But like it moved past memes like I've seen this 275 00:11:47,424 --> 00:11:50,264 Speaker 1: on proper like proper news website saying like, oh, the 276 00:11:50,264 --> 00:11:52,864 Speaker 1: theory that Paul Mescale runs away from his dates. So 277 00:11:52,864 --> 00:11:55,304 Speaker 1: she was probably like flicking through People mag or a 278 00:11:55,344 --> 00:11:57,384 Speaker 1: news site or something and saw it and was like, 279 00:11:57,664 --> 00:12:00,424 Speaker 1: my son is like a great actor. He's an Oscar nominee. 280 00:12:00,464 --> 00:12:02,864 Speaker 1: Like he'sposed to everyone. She's like ready to give a statements. 281 00:12:03,024 --> 00:12:05,144 Speaker 1: He's like please, she holds a presence. 282 00:12:05,264 --> 00:12:07,544 Speaker 2: I wish he does take the piss out of it, though, 283 00:12:07,624 --> 00:12:09,344 Speaker 2: so I feel like with his friends and stuff, he'd 284 00:12:09,344 --> 00:12:11,784 Speaker 2: be really funny about it, because she did say like 285 00:12:11,864 --> 00:12:14,744 Speaker 2: later in the interview, they were looking at some books 286 00:12:14,864 --> 00:12:18,264 Speaker 2: and there was three volumes of a book titled London's 287 00:12:18,304 --> 00:12:21,304 Speaker 2: Hidden Walks, and he said, oh, I should take these 288 00:12:21,344 --> 00:12:24,384 Speaker 2: for my running away days, and I'm like, and that's 289 00:12:24,384 --> 00:12:26,144 Speaker 2: immediately when I fell in love with poor mescal for 290 00:12:26,184 --> 00:12:26,744 Speaker 2: the second time. 291 00:12:26,864 --> 00:12:29,184 Speaker 1: Oh, because despite the fact you have seen none of 292 00:12:29,184 --> 00:12:31,224 Speaker 1: his work. He's your favorite act, so soon. 293 00:12:31,104 --> 00:12:33,584 Speaker 2: I'll see your guyda soon, which I mean from ust 294 00:12:33,624 --> 00:12:36,024 Speaker 2: recapping the trailer, which we will link in the shadows 295 00:12:36,024 --> 00:12:37,784 Speaker 2: because it was a brilliant piece of content from me, 296 00:12:37,864 --> 00:12:40,344 Speaker 2: I must say, I don't know if I'll be able 297 00:12:40,424 --> 00:12:43,744 Speaker 2: to handle him when you see him at the premiere. Yeah, 298 00:12:43,864 --> 00:12:44,424 Speaker 2: we'll try. 299 00:12:44,584 --> 00:12:46,424 Speaker 1: Well, maybe you'll run away from him get a taste 300 00:12:46,424 --> 00:12:47,824 Speaker 1: of his own medicine. How do you like? 301 00:12:47,864 --> 00:12:49,224 Speaker 2: That? 302 00:12:49,504 --> 00:12:51,144 Speaker 1: Was like, why is that young girl running away from me? 303 00:12:54,104 --> 00:12:56,264 Speaker 1: I don't mean to bring the mood down in this room. 304 00:12:56,344 --> 00:12:58,904 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Something just we have to address before 305 00:12:58,904 --> 00:12:59,904 Speaker 1: we get into a weekend watch. 306 00:13:00,064 --> 00:13:01,464 Speaker 2: We have to address the wings and. 307 00:13:01,504 --> 00:13:04,344 Speaker 1: The wings in the room thank you, which is the 308 00:13:04,344 --> 00:13:08,184 Speaker 1: fact that the Victorious Secret Catwalk Show came back after 309 00:13:08,224 --> 00:13:10,944 Speaker 1: a six year hiatus. So the two thousand an eighteen 310 00:13:11,064 --> 00:13:13,344 Speaker 1: version was the last time we really saw like the 311 00:13:13,424 --> 00:13:16,264 Speaker 1: kind of full spectacle of the show. It had really 312 00:13:16,264 --> 00:13:19,384 Speaker 1: low ratings and was criticized for its lack of inclusivity 313 00:13:19,864 --> 00:13:22,304 Speaker 1: and the brand. This year was a big deal that 314 00:13:22,344 --> 00:13:24,904 Speaker 1: they were going to make a big comeback, So they 315 00:13:24,944 --> 00:13:26,864 Speaker 1: had like an ad that came out in twenty twenty 316 00:13:26,864 --> 00:13:29,504 Speaker 1: two that had opening shots of the old show and 317 00:13:29,504 --> 00:13:31,344 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it cut off with the 318 00:13:31,384 --> 00:13:35,144 Speaker 1: words we've changed Welcome. You're accepted here, no matter what 319 00:13:35,224 --> 00:13:37,104 Speaker 1: you think you're supposed to do or look like, or 320 00:13:37,104 --> 00:13:39,584 Speaker 1: how your body's supposed to be. So there's been such 321 00:13:39,624 --> 00:13:42,184 Speaker 1: a big build up to this show coming back because 322 00:13:42,184 --> 00:13:45,264 Speaker 1: the Victoria's Secret Show has been iconic for so many years, 323 00:13:45,264 --> 00:13:47,584 Speaker 1: Like it was the one big fashion show that I 324 00:13:47,584 --> 00:13:50,704 Speaker 1: think was geared way more towards the public than to 325 00:13:50,984 --> 00:13:53,304 Speaker 1: you know, the fashion industry or buyers or anything like that. 326 00:13:53,784 --> 00:13:55,584 Speaker 1: Every year there's such a big build up too, and 327 00:13:55,624 --> 00:13:57,184 Speaker 1: it's been going on for like decades of who the 328 00:13:57,304 --> 00:13:58,744 Speaker 1: models were going to be, and who was going to 329 00:13:58,784 --> 00:14:01,784 Speaker 1: be wearing which outfit, which celebrities would be in the crowd, 330 00:14:01,824 --> 00:14:04,864 Speaker 1: who would be the guest performer, Taylor Swift's done it, 331 00:14:04,944 --> 00:14:07,984 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande infamously got killed by an angel wing that's 332 00:14:08,024 --> 00:14:11,424 Speaker 1: a great photos again, And so there was so much 333 00:14:11,424 --> 00:14:14,024 Speaker 1: build up around it, and then over the years a 334 00:14:14,064 --> 00:14:16,624 Speaker 1: lot of backlash started and a lot of it really 335 00:14:16,664 --> 00:14:18,904 Speaker 1: came to a head when the chief marketing officer for 336 00:14:18,944 --> 00:14:21,104 Speaker 1: the brand ed Razzik it said a lot of really 337 00:14:21,184 --> 00:14:23,024 Speaker 1: terrible things around, like, oh, no, we won't have plus 338 00:14:23,064 --> 00:14:24,624 Speaker 1: size people because this is meant to be fair to 339 00:14:24,624 --> 00:14:27,744 Speaker 1: see what people dream of. We won't have transgender models 340 00:14:27,784 --> 00:14:30,104 Speaker 1: because that's not our brand, and all of this sort 341 00:14:30,104 --> 00:14:32,504 Speaker 1: of stuff. So it made me come back this year, 342 00:14:32,584 --> 00:14:34,504 Speaker 1: and first of all, I wanted to just say a 343 00:14:34,504 --> 00:14:36,944 Speaker 1: few of the nice things that were there, and one 344 00:14:36,984 --> 00:14:39,624 Speaker 1: of them was the fact that Alex Consani and Valentina 345 00:14:39,704 --> 00:14:42,464 Speaker 1: Sampio walked to the catwalk and they were actually the 346 00:14:42,504 --> 00:14:46,064 Speaker 1: first transgender models to do so in a Victoria's Secret show, 347 00:14:46,304 --> 00:14:49,424 Speaker 1: So like that was they read a beloved, so beautiful 348 00:14:49,504 --> 00:14:51,904 Speaker 1: and sexy in all the things, and they're outfits, so 349 00:14:52,304 --> 00:14:54,784 Speaker 1: that was really lovely. There were also a lot of 350 00:14:54,824 --> 00:14:57,384 Speaker 1: really iconic models who made a bit of a catwalk 351 00:14:57,424 --> 00:14:59,424 Speaker 1: comeback after being away for a while, So we had 352 00:14:59,424 --> 00:15:02,024 Speaker 1: Tyra Banks, Kate Moss, Carla Brunei who were all in 353 00:15:02,024 --> 00:15:04,744 Speaker 1: their fifties. That was really lovely, and it had all 354 00:15:04,784 --> 00:15:07,664 Speaker 1: those celebrity moments that you look for, which is like, 355 00:15:07,704 --> 00:15:10,304 Speaker 1: you know, Gigi had did backstage with Bella talking about 356 00:15:10,344 --> 00:15:13,864 Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper, Barbara Palvin walking, and then there's this I mean, 357 00:15:13,904 --> 00:15:15,384 Speaker 1: I thought this was a bit of an inck, but 358 00:15:15,424 --> 00:15:17,904 Speaker 1: she's clearly into it and her husband, Dylan's brouse standing up. 359 00:15:17,944 --> 00:15:21,184 Speaker 1: He had big cutouts of their animals waiting them around, yeah, 360 00:15:21,784 --> 00:15:23,544 Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. So there was all that. 361 00:15:23,624 --> 00:15:25,504 Speaker 1: You know, it was a pop culture moment, which is 362 00:15:25,504 --> 00:15:27,664 Speaker 1: what it's supposed to be, but for a show that 363 00:15:27,784 --> 00:15:31,304 Speaker 1: had really set itself up like this is here where new, 364 00:15:31,544 --> 00:15:34,744 Speaker 1: We're going to bring this inclusivity that has not been 365 00:15:34,784 --> 00:15:38,064 Speaker 1: seen before with this brand, it did kind of fall short. 366 00:15:38,184 --> 00:15:40,984 Speaker 1: So they did have two like plus size models on 367 00:15:41,024 --> 00:15:42,264 Speaker 1: the runway as their label, so. 368 00:15:42,304 --> 00:15:44,344 Speaker 2: Actually the whole to two. 369 00:15:44,224 --> 00:15:45,864 Speaker 1: That I could see, maybe they were more, but they 370 00:15:45,904 --> 00:15:47,984 Speaker 1: were two big names, and like I guess if there 371 00:15:47,984 --> 00:15:49,624 Speaker 1: were more there, they weren't in like the bits of 372 00:15:49,624 --> 00:15:51,624 Speaker 1: the show. I saw the clips that were released and 373 00:15:51,664 --> 00:15:54,824 Speaker 1: they were like hidden which was Ashley Graham and Paloma Elsa. 374 00:15:54,944 --> 00:15:58,704 Speaker 1: And the thing about that is that they're both wildly successful, 375 00:15:58,864 --> 00:16:02,184 Speaker 1: beautiful models. But usually at these anything like this where 376 00:16:02,224 --> 00:16:05,184 Speaker 1: they like is a need for diversity, it's only ever 377 00:16:05,304 --> 00:16:07,304 Speaker 1: Ashley and Paloma like they're the ones that get pulled 378 00:16:07,304 --> 00:16:11,304 Speaker 1: into everything, and yes, by fashion standards, they are plus size, 379 00:16:11,344 --> 00:16:15,304 Speaker 1: but for just the general weight standard in America and 380 00:16:15,344 --> 00:16:18,424 Speaker 1: in Australia they are more mid size range. Obviously, everything's 381 00:16:18,464 --> 00:16:21,544 Speaker 1: really skewed in the fashion world. And so even though 382 00:16:21,584 --> 00:16:23,824 Speaker 1: they both looked beautiful and was like so lovely to 383 00:16:23,824 --> 00:16:26,584 Speaker 1: see them there, and Ashley Graham in particular had given 384 00:16:26,624 --> 00:16:28,944 Speaker 1: interviews before this and said that the reason she accepted 385 00:16:28,984 --> 00:16:32,664 Speaker 1: the job was because she wanted Victoria's Secret to have 386 00:16:32,744 --> 00:16:34,784 Speaker 1: this level of diversity, and so she's like, the way 387 00:16:34,824 --> 00:16:36,264 Speaker 1: for me to be part of that is to make 388 00:16:36,264 --> 00:16:39,104 Speaker 1: sure I'm there and walking the catwalk and wearing the 389 00:16:39,144 --> 00:16:41,744 Speaker 1: same outfits that the other women are wearing. But it's 390 00:16:41,744 --> 00:16:44,584 Speaker 1: still felt very old school and non inclusive. And the 391 00:16:44,624 --> 00:16:47,304 Speaker 1: wildest thing is is that they haven't really extended their 392 00:16:47,304 --> 00:16:50,704 Speaker 1: sizing like Victoria's Secret the brand. So even though they 393 00:16:50,744 --> 00:16:53,264 Speaker 1: had plus sized bodies on the catwalk, if you go 394 00:16:53,304 --> 00:16:54,664 Speaker 1: to their store and be like, and the whole point 395 00:16:54,704 --> 00:16:55,784 Speaker 1: of the show is to be like, I want to 396 00:16:55,784 --> 00:16:57,944 Speaker 1: buy that I want to wear. That is to go 397 00:16:57,984 --> 00:17:01,024 Speaker 1: to the website and be able to find it. But 398 00:17:01,064 --> 00:17:03,784 Speaker 1: there's not really extended sizing and it's and this happens 399 00:17:03,824 --> 00:17:06,424 Speaker 1: a lot. Well, it's weird, Yeah, right, And this happens 400 00:17:06,464 --> 00:17:08,064 Speaker 1: a lot with Ashley Graham, Like there's so many times 401 00:17:08,064 --> 00:17:10,904 Speaker 1: where she gets pulled into a show. These are her 402 00:17:10,904 --> 00:17:13,224 Speaker 1: home words, like the token diversity of look, we have 403 00:17:13,264 --> 00:17:16,224 Speaker 1: a post size model. But often brands will make her 404 00:17:16,264 --> 00:17:18,624 Speaker 1: special outfits so like she can walk in the catwalk, 405 00:17:18,664 --> 00:17:20,744 Speaker 1: but no one else can buy the customers can't buy them. 406 00:17:20,904 --> 00:17:23,504 Speaker 2: And it must suck for her as well, because on 407 00:17:23,504 --> 00:17:26,024 Speaker 2: one hand, she's probably getting so much hate for like 408 00:17:26,144 --> 00:17:29,984 Speaker 2: indulging in a project that's like Victoria's Secret, who's had 409 00:17:30,024 --> 00:17:32,624 Speaker 2: such an awful pass when it comes to diversity. But 410 00:17:32,704 --> 00:17:34,264 Speaker 2: on the other hand, she's like, well, then if I 411 00:17:34,304 --> 00:17:35,824 Speaker 2: don't do it well, will they give it to another 412 00:17:35,864 --> 00:17:38,904 Speaker 2: size zero model? Like where do I win in that situation? 413 00:17:39,224 --> 00:17:41,504 Speaker 1: Exactly? And it's hard too because so many people are saying, like, 414 00:17:41,544 --> 00:17:43,664 Speaker 1: why are we even looking at Victoria's Secret to be 415 00:17:43,704 --> 00:17:47,544 Speaker 1: this beacon of inclusivity and you know, showing all these 416 00:17:47,544 --> 00:17:50,304 Speaker 1: different bodies. And I guess because they have set themselves 417 00:17:50,424 --> 00:17:53,464 Speaker 1: up as the pinnacle for what a body can look 418 00:17:53,504 --> 00:17:55,104 Speaker 1: like and what we can aspire to and what is 419 00:17:55,144 --> 00:17:57,864 Speaker 1: the fantasy? And so I think that's why people have 420 00:17:57,984 --> 00:18:01,224 Speaker 1: really been like really holding onto this idea that they 421 00:18:01,264 --> 00:18:05,104 Speaker 1: wanted to see this change because it would feel so groundbreaking, and. 422 00:18:05,024 --> 00:18:08,024 Speaker 2: It's not like it's so awful. I didn't watch the show, 423 00:18:08,144 --> 00:18:11,304 Speaker 2: but I saw some tiktoks this morning, and it's like 424 00:18:11,384 --> 00:18:14,224 Speaker 2: kind of jokey, but not jokey enough where it doesn't 425 00:18:14,224 --> 00:18:16,304 Speaker 2: make me feel like laughing. But I've seen tiktoks with 426 00:18:16,344 --> 00:18:19,224 Speaker 2: people like pov. You just watched the Cus Victoria's Secret 427 00:18:19,224 --> 00:18:20,904 Speaker 2: Fashion Show and just like them on the treadmill and 428 00:18:20,944 --> 00:18:23,704 Speaker 2: them like going await, And I'm like, I went through 429 00:18:23,744 --> 00:18:27,824 Speaker 2: this when I was seventeen, Like I remember sitting in 430 00:18:27,864 --> 00:18:30,424 Speaker 2: school with my friends on one of our laptops, like 431 00:18:30,464 --> 00:18:33,304 Speaker 2: in a classroom, like watching the whole fashion show and 432 00:18:33,344 --> 00:18:35,784 Speaker 2: like cheering when our favorite model came on, like when 433 00:18:35,784 --> 00:18:38,504 Speaker 2: Adrian and Lima came on, when Candice came on, and 434 00:18:38,544 --> 00:18:41,344 Speaker 2: going like it's our favorite. When that whole thing happened, 435 00:18:41,344 --> 00:18:43,384 Speaker 2: I was like, thank God, because I don't want women 436 00:18:43,464 --> 00:18:46,224 Speaker 2: at that age to do what I did. And they're 437 00:18:46,224 --> 00:18:48,544 Speaker 2: doing it now. Yeah, and it's still happening. And even 438 00:18:48,544 --> 00:18:51,704 Speaker 2: there like quote unquote Diversity quoted that they've like supposedly 439 00:18:51,784 --> 00:18:53,904 Speaker 2: hit Apparently it hasn't. 440 00:18:53,664 --> 00:18:56,824 Speaker 1: Worked yeah, one hundred percent. And it's hard too when 441 00:18:56,864 --> 00:18:59,384 Speaker 1: you see something like Rihanna's Savage fenty show and you're like, 442 00:18:59,424 --> 00:19:00,824 Speaker 1: oh my god, it can be done. 443 00:19:01,144 --> 00:19:03,064 Speaker 2: And that's what we should Those young women should be 444 00:19:03,104 --> 00:19:05,664 Speaker 2: looking at the shows that I want them to be watching. 445 00:19:05,784 --> 00:19:07,544 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So I guess, like, you know, you got 446 00:19:07,584 --> 00:19:08,904 Speaker 1: to take the good with the bad. But I think 447 00:19:08,944 --> 00:19:11,184 Speaker 1: knowing that this and another brand and out there like 448 00:19:11,224 --> 00:19:12,664 Speaker 1: that really sets the bar higher. 449 00:19:17,464 --> 00:19:21,944 Speaker 2: The weekend watch It is a weekend watch time where 450 00:19:21,984 --> 00:19:25,384 Speaker 2: we give you TV shows and movies that we watched 451 00:19:25,384 --> 00:19:27,984 Speaker 2: this week and we need you to watch it immediately. 452 00:19:28,224 --> 00:19:31,624 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm recommending a new series and I'm absolutely obsessed 453 00:19:31,624 --> 00:19:34,944 Speaker 1: with and it's the Stan original series. Thou Shot not Steel. 454 00:19:35,224 --> 00:19:39,864 Speaker 2: You don't know about me? A that's it? Say good 455 00:19:39,864 --> 00:19:46,664 Speaker 2: buddy of ballbags. My granddad Ringer told me don't trust 456 00:19:46,984 --> 00:19:52,424 Speaker 2: anyone because you mess with the wrong one, she'll strike 457 00:19:52,504 --> 00:19:53,344 Speaker 2: you down ourselves. 458 00:19:54,944 --> 00:19:55,824 Speaker 1: Sorry to Bobby. 459 00:19:55,904 --> 00:19:58,984 Speaker 2: I'm looking for a taxi out, little darl and stole it. 460 00:20:01,184 --> 00:20:05,384 Speaker 2: It looks much like a taxi driver. You don't look 461 00:20:05,464 --> 00:20:09,704 Speaker 2: much like a preacher seen as girl on the road 462 00:20:09,744 --> 00:20:13,784 Speaker 2: at all. I say there's a reward for who helps 463 00:20:13,864 --> 00:20:18,704 Speaker 2: me find it. We're on a mission to find her dad. 464 00:20:18,824 --> 00:20:23,064 Speaker 2: That's gonna have to wait. I've been in a lot 465 00:20:23,104 --> 00:20:26,544 Speaker 2: of shit, but nothing like the shit I was in there. 466 00:20:27,224 --> 00:20:29,584 Speaker 1: A bit of background at this show is that in 467 00:20:29,584 --> 00:20:32,144 Speaker 1: the last week I traveled to Alice Springs where the 468 00:20:32,184 --> 00:20:34,664 Speaker 1: show was shot, for the premiere and to see the 469 00:20:34,664 --> 00:20:38,984 Speaker 1: filming locations and meet the cars. Such incredible experience. So 470 00:20:39,024 --> 00:20:42,464 Speaker 1: it's got an incredible cast. Sars Miranda Otto, Noah Taylor, 471 00:20:42,824 --> 00:20:46,224 Speaker 1: Will McDonald, and Sherry Lee Watson. So Will McDonald Shirley Watson, 472 00:20:46,224 --> 00:20:48,824 Speaker 1: you might know from Heartbreak High, teamed up together here. 473 00:20:49,224 --> 00:20:51,344 Speaker 1: So I went to Ellis Springs for the premiere and 474 00:20:51,384 --> 00:20:54,784 Speaker 1: it was such an incredible experience. Speakause. Dylan River, who 475 00:20:54,864 --> 00:20:57,184 Speaker 1: is the director and co creator of the series, who 476 00:20:57,224 --> 00:20:59,784 Speaker 1: people would know from his work on Mystery, wrote Origin 477 00:20:59,864 --> 00:21:02,624 Speaker 1: and Robbie Hood was at a premiere the series and 478 00:21:02,664 --> 00:21:04,664 Speaker 1: I was talking to beforehand and he was saying, like, 479 00:21:04,704 --> 00:21:07,344 Speaker 1: you know, everything I write and everything I create is 480 00:21:07,344 --> 00:21:09,664 Speaker 1: for Alice Springs and is for this community. And I 481 00:21:09,664 --> 00:21:11,904 Speaker 1: want people to like the good in it and the 482 00:21:12,024 --> 00:21:14,224 Speaker 1: humor and to love this show. And we've put everything 483 00:21:14,224 --> 00:21:16,264 Speaker 1: into it because you know, they kind of some of 484 00:21:16,264 --> 00:21:19,344 Speaker 1: their filming days driving through the outbreak from Alice Springs 485 00:21:19,344 --> 00:21:21,784 Speaker 1: when they were filming the heat, the flies, all that 486 00:21:21,824 --> 00:21:24,944 Speaker 1: sort of stuff, and that's captioned in the series. It's 487 00:21:24,944 --> 00:21:27,664 Speaker 1: like a love letter to this community and to this, 488 00:21:27,784 --> 00:21:29,784 Speaker 1: you know, part of Australia that doesn't get shown on 489 00:21:29,864 --> 00:21:33,384 Speaker 1: screen that much. So in the series, Sherry plays a 490 00:21:33,424 --> 00:21:37,824 Speaker 1: young Aboriginal girl called Robin and she very reluctantly gets 491 00:21:37,824 --> 00:21:41,104 Speaker 1: strolling together with Will McDonald's character Gids, who's a very 492 00:21:41,104 --> 00:21:44,624 Speaker 1: awkward teenager, and in a stolen taxi they take off 493 00:21:44,664 --> 00:21:46,944 Speaker 1: of Alice Springs across the outback to go and track 494 00:21:47,024 --> 00:21:51,024 Speaker 1: down her like long lost father and unravel these family secrets. 495 00:21:51,264 --> 00:21:54,944 Speaker 1: Wild stuff happens along the way. Like there's some serious moments, 496 00:21:54,984 --> 00:21:57,384 Speaker 1: there's some funny moments, Like everyone that audience because we 497 00:21:57,424 --> 00:21:59,944 Speaker 1: watched all eight episodes that night in a row, so 498 00:21:59,944 --> 00:22:01,864 Speaker 1: we got to experience the whole thing and people were 499 00:22:01,864 --> 00:22:04,984 Speaker 1: like standing up, laughing, cheering, screaming. It was a whole 500 00:22:04,984 --> 00:22:09,624 Speaker 1: situation because on their tail Miranda's character Maxine and Noah 501 00:22:09,624 --> 00:22:12,584 Speaker 1: Taylor's character who is Gidge's father, like hot on the 502 00:22:12,584 --> 00:22:15,264 Speaker 1: trail of these kids because they've stolen Maccines taxi and 503 00:22:15,264 --> 00:22:18,984 Speaker 1: there's some really important stuff in the back, so you Yeah, 504 00:22:18,984 --> 00:22:20,784 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you. I actually was thinking about 505 00:22:20,784 --> 00:22:22,544 Speaker 1: you during the screen because I'm always thinking about you, 506 00:22:22,664 --> 00:22:24,944 Speaker 1: just thinking like how much you would love this series 507 00:22:24,984 --> 00:22:25,944 Speaker 1: and how much you would laugh. 508 00:22:25,984 --> 00:22:27,984 Speaker 2: I've already written it down as you were talking, like 509 00:22:28,024 --> 00:22:28,344 Speaker 2: I need that. 510 00:22:29,184 --> 00:22:31,704 Speaker 1: There's just nothing else like it on Australian TV, and 511 00:22:31,984 --> 00:22:34,424 Speaker 1: I just think it's so engaging, so funny, and also 512 00:22:34,504 --> 00:22:36,704 Speaker 1: like you could definitely watch alone have a fun time, 513 00:22:36,744 --> 00:22:38,384 Speaker 1: but a good thing I think to watch with your 514 00:22:38,424 --> 00:22:39,944 Speaker 1: family or a group so that you can kind of 515 00:22:39,984 --> 00:22:42,744 Speaker 1: share in the moments there was. Yeah, it was just 516 00:22:42,784 --> 00:22:45,264 Speaker 1: such a great experience and just so lovely to see 517 00:22:45,784 --> 00:22:48,864 Speaker 1: again that part of Australia shown on screen. And because 518 00:22:48,864 --> 00:22:50,664 Speaker 1: it's not something that we see all the time, so 519 00:22:51,264 --> 00:22:53,784 Speaker 1: thou shalt not steal. All eight episodes are out on 520 00:22:53,824 --> 00:22:54,304 Speaker 1: stand now. 521 00:22:54,464 --> 00:22:56,904 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 522 00:22:56,944 --> 00:22:59,184 Speaker 2: If you love our little recommendations we give at the 523 00:22:59,264 --> 00:23:02,144 Speaker 2: end of the episode, our entire entertainment team here and 524 00:23:02,184 --> 00:23:05,024 Speaker 2: mom and me are also give their weekend watch recommendations. 525 00:23:05,184 --> 00:23:07,344 Speaker 2: We will put a link to that in our show notes, 526 00:23:07,384 --> 00:23:09,264 Speaker 2: and we will be back here in your podcast feed 527 00:23:09,304 --> 00:23:11,064 Speaker 2: at three pm Monday. 528 00:23:11,104 --> 00:23:21,264 Speaker 1: Bye bye, love H