1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:13,465 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,505 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,545 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded. 4 00:00:19,105 --> 00:00:22,145 Speaker 1: On Makeup is My Therapy. 5 00:00:23,345 --> 00:00:28,665 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed and I'm done feel jailty about it. Hello, 6 00:00:28,945 --> 00:00:32,625 Speaker 2: and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for Your Face. 7 00:00:33,225 --> 00:00:35,145 Speaker 1: I'm Kelly mccaren. Oh, yeah, I'm Lee Camp. 8 00:00:35,305 --> 00:00:37,945 Speaker 2: I meant to say that first, you're. 9 00:00:37,625 --> 00:00:39,705 Speaker 1: Still in weekend mode? I am. 10 00:00:39,865 --> 00:00:42,745 Speaker 2: It's the twenty second of July. How is it almost August? 11 00:00:42,785 --> 00:00:45,345 Speaker 2: I know, how's your Drive j like it's gonna say 12 00:00:45,465 --> 00:00:46,985 Speaker 2: I feel good good? 13 00:00:47,105 --> 00:00:47,705 Speaker 1: Is that annoying? 14 00:00:48,745 --> 00:00:51,545 Speaker 2: I'm definitely sharper Oh and I don't drink a lot, 15 00:00:51,585 --> 00:00:54,825 Speaker 2: But anyway, Drive July is doing good things. Today we're 16 00:00:54,865 --> 00:00:57,305 Speaker 2: gonna answer some of the ubi's beauty questions. 17 00:00:57,305 --> 00:01:00,745 Speaker 3: We love answering your questions, and today we have a 18 00:01:00,905 --> 00:01:04,545 Speaker 3: very interesting listener dilemma. Sharon is forty six and wondering 19 00:01:04,585 --> 00:01:07,905 Speaker 3: if she's been using the wrong products for her skin type. 20 00:01:08,065 --> 00:01:11,185 Speaker 3: But first, let's chat about a affordable options for targeting 21 00:01:11,225 --> 00:01:12,425 Speaker 3: pesky pigmentation. 22 00:01:12,945 --> 00:01:16,745 Speaker 2: So Ken, you asked just after some suggestions on skin 23 00:01:16,825 --> 00:01:20,505 Speaker 2: care products to target pigmentation. So far, I've looked into 24 00:01:20,505 --> 00:01:23,945 Speaker 2: Sunday Raley products, however there are mixed reviews. I've also 25 00:01:23,945 --> 00:01:26,985 Speaker 2: looked into Quarterly, which has great reviews, but more on 26 00:01:26,985 --> 00:01:30,585 Speaker 2: the prices side. I'm preferably after something people have tried 27 00:01:30,625 --> 00:01:33,865 Speaker 2: and actually had good results from. Ideally products I'm able 28 00:01:33,865 --> 00:01:36,305 Speaker 2: to buy from a chemist in Western Australia or Sophora 29 00:01:36,545 --> 00:01:41,825 Speaker 2: or Mecha. Hmmm, Kelly, do you have any thoughts, feelings, attitudes. 30 00:01:42,305 --> 00:01:44,825 Speaker 3: Of course, there are some more affordable products that can 31 00:01:44,865 --> 00:01:48,665 Speaker 3: help brighten the skin and slightly reduce the appearance of 32 00:01:48,825 --> 00:01:52,905 Speaker 3: But if it's actual pigmentation, do you need actual treatments 33 00:01:53,145 --> 00:01:54,905 Speaker 3: which are a lot more expensive. 34 00:01:55,065 --> 00:01:55,385 Speaker 1: Yes. 35 00:01:55,505 --> 00:01:58,545 Speaker 3: However, I'm sure that there are things that Lee will 36 00:01:58,545 --> 00:01:59,505 Speaker 3: suggest you try. 37 00:02:00,625 --> 00:02:03,585 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing first and foremost, you have to 38 00:02:03,665 --> 00:02:08,945 Speaker 2: have realistic expectation. Yes, So, hyperpigmentation and particularly melasma is 39 00:02:09,385 --> 00:02:13,865 Speaker 2: the hardest, hardest, most long term commitment thing to treat. 40 00:02:14,025 --> 00:02:14,785 Speaker 1: It is hard. 41 00:02:14,945 --> 00:02:17,985 Speaker 3: It's easier to get rid of wrinkles at me celebately. 42 00:02:18,145 --> 00:02:19,665 Speaker 3: Pause totally agrees. 43 00:02:19,745 --> 00:02:22,625 Speaker 2: So the problem is and also when you start to 44 00:02:23,065 --> 00:02:25,545 Speaker 2: treat your pigmentation, it gets worse before it gets better 45 00:02:25,545 --> 00:02:28,425 Speaker 2: because the cell turnover is pushing the pigment out of 46 00:02:28,465 --> 00:02:30,225 Speaker 2: the skin, you know, from the dermis to the epidermis, 47 00:02:30,225 --> 00:02:31,345 Speaker 2: So it looks like it's getting worse. 48 00:02:31,545 --> 00:02:32,825 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people give up. 49 00:02:32,905 --> 00:02:37,745 Speaker 2: So minimum minimum, minimum three months of diligent use of 50 00:02:37,745 --> 00:02:40,305 Speaker 2: any of the products I'm going to recommend, and you'll 51 00:02:40,345 --> 00:02:44,465 Speaker 2: start to see the tineset visible result exactly. Firstly, sunscreen, 52 00:02:44,585 --> 00:02:47,865 Speaker 2: because you can use all these products for months and 53 00:02:47,905 --> 00:02:51,305 Speaker 2: then accidentally get some incidental sun exposure and the melon 54 00:02:51,385 --> 00:02:53,505 Speaker 2: and in your skin just goes hi and it's all back. 55 00:02:53,785 --> 00:02:56,785 Speaker 2: So you literally need to wear a hat, sunglasses, be 56 00:02:56,825 --> 00:02:59,225 Speaker 2: in the shade, sunscreen on your arm if that's the 57 00:02:59,225 --> 00:03:01,025 Speaker 2: part where you're driving. I know we're talking face, but 58 00:03:01,465 --> 00:03:05,505 Speaker 2: sun protection is so paramount you basically should go live 59 00:03:05,505 --> 00:03:08,465 Speaker 2: in a cave after you've treated it. So a few 60 00:03:08,465 --> 00:03:10,025 Speaker 2: things an led mark if. 61 00:03:09,945 --> 00:03:10,665 Speaker 1: You've got one at home. 62 00:03:10,705 --> 00:03:12,345 Speaker 2: I know we're looking for affordable here, but if your 63 00:03:12,345 --> 00:03:14,065 Speaker 2: friend's got one, or you want to invest. 64 00:03:13,865 --> 00:03:15,945 Speaker 3: You could have a look on Facebook Marketplace if someone 65 00:03:16,025 --> 00:03:16,425 Speaker 3: was trying to. 66 00:03:16,385 --> 00:03:19,545 Speaker 2: Get Yeah, because that's just generally going to help strengthen. 67 00:03:19,545 --> 00:03:21,905 Speaker 2: Because we are going to use some pretty active ingredients, 68 00:03:21,945 --> 00:03:24,265 Speaker 2: it's going to help strengthen and calm and just brighten. 69 00:03:24,865 --> 00:03:26,665 Speaker 2: I want you to use vitamin C in the morning 70 00:03:26,785 --> 00:03:29,985 Speaker 2: that is mostly preventative but will help sort of generally brighten. 71 00:03:30,025 --> 00:03:32,825 Speaker 2: Don't care which one you use. Along with your very 72 00:03:32,825 --> 00:03:35,745 Speaker 2: realistic expectations. I've got a big list of products. Pretty 73 00:03:35,825 --> 00:03:40,745 Speaker 2: much every brand has brightening or pigment fighting products. But 74 00:03:40,865 --> 00:03:43,385 Speaker 2: nothing is a miracle product that's going to work overnight 75 00:03:43,505 --> 00:03:45,625 Speaker 2: or work in a week, or work whatever, or get 76 00:03:45,705 --> 00:03:48,185 Speaker 2: rid of your pigmentation. Correct, never going to get rid 77 00:03:48,225 --> 00:03:50,745 Speaker 2: of it, because the problem is it's deep, deep, deep 78 00:03:50,905 --> 00:03:53,185 Speaker 2: under there and it's just going to sort of keep 79 00:03:53,225 --> 00:03:57,185 Speaker 2: coming out. The relatively new Laroche for say, Mellabe serum, 80 00:03:57,385 --> 00:03:59,745 Speaker 2: it's a mix of nice inamide and a new molecule 81 00:03:59,785 --> 00:04:02,865 Speaker 2: that they developed called melocill. You can use it morning 82 00:04:02,985 --> 00:04:06,345 Speaker 2: and night again always sunscreen, so that's going to help 83 00:04:06,705 --> 00:04:08,785 Speaker 2: long game. Like I said seventy nine ninety five, you 84 00:04:08,785 --> 00:04:11,025 Speaker 2: can get it from a Chemistruse Lauria's. 85 00:04:11,025 --> 00:04:12,145 Speaker 1: They also have what's called. 86 00:04:11,945 --> 00:04:15,385 Speaker 2: Pigment klar and I like that. I anti pigmentation cream. 87 00:04:15,505 --> 00:04:19,145 Speaker 2: All my pigmentation is sort of around my temple strangely, so. 88 00:04:19,385 --> 00:04:21,105 Speaker 1: No, I don't think that's strange. I think most people's. 89 00:04:21,345 --> 00:04:23,905 Speaker 2: That's oftentimes also where you get incidental something, so you 90 00:04:23,985 --> 00:04:27,265 Speaker 2: might not to put your sunscreen. Great, there your sunnies, sunnies, 91 00:04:27,305 --> 00:04:29,625 Speaker 2: you have a gap, a hat whatever, so that treats 92 00:04:30,065 --> 00:04:33,865 Speaker 2: blue circles, dark spots, just darkness around the eyes. 93 00:04:34,105 --> 00:04:35,585 Speaker 1: Again, gotta use diligently. 94 00:04:36,385 --> 00:04:40,785 Speaker 2: Laurel Paris revit a lift bright reveal snake peel. Oh, 95 00:04:41,065 --> 00:04:43,825 Speaker 2: I know, scary fifty nine to ninety five. That is 96 00:04:43,865 --> 00:04:46,745 Speaker 2: a dark spot expoliant peel. We don't use that every day. 97 00:04:46,825 --> 00:04:48,585 Speaker 2: We're gonna link all of these in the show notes. 98 00:04:49,505 --> 00:04:51,585 Speaker 2: This one comes with a word of warning. It's the 99 00:04:51,665 --> 00:04:57,265 Speaker 2: John Plunketts super Fade depigment treatment moisturizer. Now that uses hydroquinone, 100 00:04:57,345 --> 00:04:59,265 Speaker 2: which is different to vitamin A or retino. 101 00:05:00,105 --> 00:05:00,865 Speaker 1: Very effective. 102 00:05:01,105 --> 00:05:04,625 Speaker 2: Also not pregnancy safe, like definitely not pregnancy safe. And 103 00:05:04,665 --> 00:05:06,825 Speaker 2: you really only want to use hydroqunone for a short 104 00:05:06,865 --> 00:05:09,585 Speaker 2: period of time. It's not a long term thing maximu 105 00:05:09,865 --> 00:05:14,105 Speaker 2: three months, and that's also factoring in sunscreen and nourishing skincare. 106 00:05:14,185 --> 00:05:17,625 Speaker 2: But do not use it long term max three months. 107 00:05:17,625 --> 00:05:19,425 Speaker 2: Put it in your diary and say okay, I'm done 108 00:05:19,425 --> 00:05:23,065 Speaker 2: with that one. They claim seventy five percent visible pigmentation improvement. 109 00:05:23,665 --> 00:05:26,025 Speaker 2: There's also a nice cinemide and salicilic acid in there. 110 00:05:26,065 --> 00:05:28,905 Speaker 2: These are all really active, okay, so just please use 111 00:05:29,265 --> 00:05:34,185 Speaker 2: as per the directions. Don't use hydroqronone continuously. It'll destroy 112 00:05:34,185 --> 00:05:36,865 Speaker 2: a skin barrier, it'll cause more problem. 113 00:05:36,705 --> 00:05:38,385 Speaker 1: Kind of like using a steroid long term. Just don't 114 00:05:38,425 --> 00:05:38,585 Speaker 1: do it. 115 00:05:38,625 --> 00:05:40,665 Speaker 2: That's a really good way to illustrate it, and you 116 00:05:40,705 --> 00:05:43,625 Speaker 2: do see results relatively quickly with that, but again please 117 00:05:43,665 --> 00:05:47,905 Speaker 2: be careful. Whereas vitamin C and retinal are long term exactly. 118 00:05:48,065 --> 00:05:50,345 Speaker 2: And that's it. So Paula's choice. You can't really get 119 00:05:50,385 --> 00:05:53,025 Speaker 2: at the pharmacy, but you can order online. Their one 120 00:05:53,025 --> 00:05:57,105 Speaker 2: percent retinal treatment is fantastic. It's strong, start slow. You 121 00:05:57,145 --> 00:05:59,785 Speaker 2: can buy the full side for ninety two dollars, but 122 00:05:59,785 --> 00:06:01,425 Speaker 2: if you want to try the little travel minute it's 123 00:06:01,465 --> 00:06:04,545 Speaker 2: twenty two dollars, which I would suggest start slow. 124 00:06:04,705 --> 00:06:06,025 Speaker 1: Have I said start slow? 125 00:06:06,225 --> 00:06:09,985 Speaker 2: The go to very amazing retinal that's relatively new. It's 126 00:06:09,985 --> 00:06:12,985 Speaker 2: eighty five dollars. Start with twice a week, one pump, 127 00:06:13,185 --> 00:06:15,945 Speaker 2: not for all like I started with. This is a 128 00:06:15,985 --> 00:06:19,305 Speaker 2: vitamin A retinal, so again a long game, but will 129 00:06:19,345 --> 00:06:22,185 Speaker 2: help the ordinary do what's really clever. It's called the 130 00:06:22,185 --> 00:06:26,705 Speaker 2: bright Set and it's four products for sixty four dollars 131 00:06:26,705 --> 00:06:27,785 Speaker 2: and twenty Wow. 132 00:06:27,665 --> 00:06:29,545 Speaker 1: That's good. And that's all their brightening products. 133 00:06:29,545 --> 00:06:32,265 Speaker 2: So you've got their cleanser, their Cli coolic acid solution, 134 00:06:32,465 --> 00:06:34,185 Speaker 2: and two of their serums. 135 00:06:34,505 --> 00:06:37,305 Speaker 3: I also know people that have gone, like, if you're 136 00:06:37,345 --> 00:06:40,025 Speaker 3: really trying to keep it more affordable. I know people 137 00:06:40,065 --> 00:06:42,545 Speaker 3: that just went to their doctor got a script for Trette, 138 00:06:42,825 --> 00:06:45,945 Speaker 3: which is prescription vitamin A, and then they just started 139 00:06:46,025 --> 00:06:48,065 Speaker 3: using that a couple of nights per week with their 140 00:06:48,065 --> 00:06:49,105 Speaker 3: sunscreen in the morning. 141 00:06:49,225 --> 00:06:51,425 Speaker 1: Love it absolutely. A couple of others. 142 00:06:51,825 --> 00:06:54,585 Speaker 2: Number seven, which is also a price sign their future 143 00:06:54,625 --> 00:06:57,225 Speaker 2: or new range is fantastic. They've got Vitamin C, they've 144 00:06:57,225 --> 00:07:00,185 Speaker 2: got vitamin A, they've got everything. Number seven affordable, really good. 145 00:07:00,545 --> 00:07:02,385 Speaker 2: One more that I mentioned the other week when we 146 00:07:02,385 --> 00:07:05,905 Speaker 2: were talking Korean skincare is the HC Nice and Biome 147 00:07:05,985 --> 00:07:10,705 Speaker 2: range that's all about brightening, lightning, fading pigation. There's four 148 00:07:10,745 --> 00:07:14,305 Speaker 2: products in the range, so there's a cleanser, a tona, 149 00:07:14,545 --> 00:07:17,665 Speaker 2: an essence, and a serum or something like that. Beautiful, 150 00:07:17,705 --> 00:07:21,025 Speaker 2: amazing results. But with all of these you're not going 151 00:07:21,065 --> 00:07:23,305 Speaker 2: to see something. After a week, it probably will look 152 00:07:23,345 --> 00:07:27,385 Speaker 2: worse before it gets better. It's like your lifelong dedication. Now, 153 00:07:27,385 --> 00:07:29,825 Speaker 2: if you've got pigmentation, you are going to be trying 154 00:07:29,865 --> 00:07:32,065 Speaker 2: to keep it in the cage yep, for the rest 155 00:07:32,105 --> 00:07:32,625 Speaker 2: of your life. 156 00:07:32,705 --> 00:07:35,425 Speaker 3: Next, Lee is going to help a ubi whose skin 157 00:07:35,465 --> 00:07:37,105 Speaker 3: gets oily no matter what she tries. 158 00:07:42,505 --> 00:07:44,625 Speaker 1: Hi, Kellen Lee, I have a question for you both. 159 00:07:44,665 --> 00:07:47,185 Speaker 3: I'm forty six and i believe that my skin is combo, 160 00:07:47,265 --> 00:07:49,385 Speaker 3: but I'm starting to think that maybe it's just plain oily. 161 00:07:49,745 --> 00:07:52,545 Speaker 3: My dilemma is, by mid morning, my skin is so greasy, 162 00:07:52,585 --> 00:07:54,825 Speaker 3: oily and shiny, and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. 163 00:07:55,185 --> 00:07:58,665 Speaker 3: I use ELF or MCO Grip Primer, MCO Flawless Glow 164 00:07:59,145 --> 00:08:03,545 Speaker 3: Ragism all Day Foundation or MCO Flawless Skin Foundation, and 165 00:08:03,585 --> 00:08:06,625 Speaker 3: then contour blush, etc. Am I using a product that's 166 00:08:06,665 --> 00:08:08,425 Speaker 3: too oily? Or do I need a setting powder? 167 00:08:08,585 --> 00:08:08,905 Speaker 1: Help? 168 00:08:09,065 --> 00:08:10,745 Speaker 3: Lee can help you with this because she also with 169 00:08:10,785 --> 00:08:13,025 Speaker 3: an oily skinned goal and it sounds like you are. 170 00:08:13,945 --> 00:08:18,225 Speaker 2: I think we're dehydrated. She's dehydrated her skin. Sit down, Sharon, 171 00:08:18,265 --> 00:08:19,865 Speaker 2: I've got to tell you a story. I used to 172 00:08:19,905 --> 00:08:21,665 Speaker 2: work with a beautiful girl I still know her at 173 00:08:21,705 --> 00:08:26,185 Speaker 2: Cosmo and she said, my skin is so oily, and 174 00:08:26,185 --> 00:08:28,385 Speaker 2: she wore every modifying makeup under the sun. And once 175 00:08:28,425 --> 00:08:30,745 Speaker 2: I went to the bathroom and she was washing her face. 176 00:08:31,025 --> 00:08:32,425 Speaker 2: She was about to go out to an event, as 177 00:08:32,585 --> 00:08:34,745 Speaker 2: magazine people do. She was washing her face with a 178 00:08:34,785 --> 00:08:37,785 Speaker 2: bar of soap and she said, it's the only thing 179 00:08:37,825 --> 00:08:40,265 Speaker 2: that strips the oil. And I'm not suggesting that Sharon 180 00:08:40,465 --> 00:08:42,145 Speaker 2: is doing this. And I would love to know what 181 00:08:42,225 --> 00:08:44,265 Speaker 2: skin care using Sharon, because I think that's where the 182 00:08:44,345 --> 00:08:48,265 Speaker 2: key is. She was trying to treat her oily skin 183 00:08:48,385 --> 00:08:51,305 Speaker 2: and it was so dehydrated that it was like, oh. 184 00:08:51,225 --> 00:08:53,705 Speaker 1: Help me, yes, lubricating it. There was a lot of 185 00:08:53,705 --> 00:08:55,185 Speaker 1: oil but no water. I'm combo. 186 00:08:55,265 --> 00:08:57,225 Speaker 2: And I used to do this too because I hated 187 00:08:57,305 --> 00:09:00,265 Speaker 2: my shiny bits. I want a dewy but not shiny, 188 00:09:00,305 --> 00:09:05,985 Speaker 2: so I use kind of madifying everything. When I embraced essences, lotions, 189 00:09:06,105 --> 00:09:10,905 Speaker 2: oil els, yep. I know that sounds scary. Your skin, 190 00:09:11,505 --> 00:09:14,385 Speaker 2: You'll go, oh some hydration, thank you oil. 191 00:09:14,425 --> 00:09:15,785 Speaker 1: You can calm down a little. 192 00:09:15,585 --> 00:09:18,065 Speaker 3: Bit down and it will stop overproducing the wils. I mean, 193 00:09:18,105 --> 00:09:22,505 Speaker 3: you'll still be that skin type, but not to the extreme. 194 00:09:22,705 --> 00:09:25,265 Speaker 3: So all your products are great. I'm dying to try 195 00:09:25,265 --> 00:09:27,265 Speaker 3: the Ragism All Day foundation. 196 00:09:26,945 --> 00:09:27,465 Speaker 1: That browd it. 197 00:09:27,585 --> 00:09:29,385 Speaker 2: You're not old enough yet, No, you are, but it's 198 00:09:29,385 --> 00:09:32,225 Speaker 2: a beautiful brand formulated for forty plus. Also, you might 199 00:09:32,225 --> 00:09:34,825 Speaker 2: be in perimenopause, which can make your skin go real whack. 200 00:09:35,225 --> 00:09:37,665 Speaker 2: It probably is drying your skin out. But then we're 201 00:09:37,665 --> 00:09:40,425 Speaker 2: getting lots of oil, so I reckon you stripping the skin. 202 00:09:40,505 --> 00:09:41,985 Speaker 2: For your skin care, I want you to use a 203 00:09:41,985 --> 00:09:45,385 Speaker 2: beautiful cleansing balm and then a milk cleanser, nothing foamy. 204 00:09:45,745 --> 00:09:48,385 Speaker 2: I want you to try skin flooding. I know you're scared. 205 00:09:48,425 --> 00:09:50,745 Speaker 2: In the day, maybe just use a beautiful hydrating serum 206 00:09:50,785 --> 00:09:52,865 Speaker 2: and then the sunscreen. But at night I want you 207 00:09:52,985 --> 00:09:56,825 Speaker 2: to layer a mist an essence, a hyperum serum, and 208 00:09:56,865 --> 00:09:59,385 Speaker 2: then a different type of serrum. Yes, and then I 209 00:09:59,385 --> 00:10:01,105 Speaker 2: want you to top it all off with a Hober oil, 210 00:10:01,105 --> 00:10:03,825 Speaker 2: which is antibacterial, anti inflammation. 211 00:10:04,505 --> 00:10:05,825 Speaker 1: It's technically a wax. 212 00:10:05,985 --> 00:10:08,945 Speaker 2: It sort of talks to your skins oil and goes, hey, 213 00:10:08,945 --> 00:10:11,465 Speaker 2: I got this, So do that at night please, and 214 00:10:11,505 --> 00:10:14,385 Speaker 2: then maybe switch up me foundation if you can afford it. 215 00:10:14,465 --> 00:10:18,145 Speaker 2: The smash Box Always On foundation is great because it 216 00:10:18,225 --> 00:10:20,305 Speaker 2: is for oily skin, but it's kind of smart. 217 00:10:20,465 --> 00:10:23,265 Speaker 1: It knows to hydrate where it needs it and madify. 218 00:10:22,905 --> 00:10:25,905 Speaker 2: Where it's not just going to madify your whole face. No, 219 00:10:25,985 --> 00:10:28,465 Speaker 2: it's seventy five dollars. It is a beautiful satin finish. 220 00:10:28,505 --> 00:10:32,945 Speaker 2: It's expensive. Otherwise, try the Maybolene fit Me Matten Paulus. 221 00:10:33,505 --> 00:10:35,905 Speaker 2: It's matifying, but it's not It's velvety and kind of blurry. 222 00:10:35,945 --> 00:10:37,985 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. I can use that, and I don't go 223 00:10:38,105 --> 00:10:40,705 Speaker 2: too oily or too dry, and I'm definitely combo. Like 224 00:10:40,785 --> 00:10:42,545 Speaker 2: my drive, it's like to be dry, my oily bit's 225 00:10:42,585 --> 00:10:45,665 Speaker 2: like to be oily. Also, the Maybolene Super Stay skin 226 00:10:45,785 --> 00:10:48,545 Speaker 2: tint foundation is more of a sheer wash but definitely 227 00:10:48,745 --> 00:10:51,585 Speaker 2: stays in place. So I'd love to hear about your 228 00:10:51,585 --> 00:10:53,265 Speaker 2: skin care. I'd love you to mix up your skin 229 00:10:53,305 --> 00:10:55,545 Speaker 2: care and make sure you're nourishing your skin. Good or 230 00:10:55,665 --> 00:10:58,665 Speaker 2: Google is great. You're googling oily skin, what should I use? 231 00:10:58,665 --> 00:11:00,825 Speaker 2: And the products you've all listened are fantastic. But I 232 00:11:00,825 --> 00:11:03,825 Speaker 2: think the power of asking around like us the New 233 00:11:03,905 --> 00:11:06,465 Speaker 2: Beauty group, the U Beauty Group, there's eighty thousand people 234 00:11:06,465 --> 00:11:08,545 Speaker 2: in there. There's likely people that have got your skin concern, 235 00:11:08,705 --> 00:11:11,065 Speaker 2: they're your age. Pop it in there and see what 236 00:11:11,105 --> 00:11:15,025 Speaker 2: they recommend before you just buy what comes up on Google. Okay, Next, 237 00:11:15,185 --> 00:11:18,105 Speaker 2: Kelly wants to talk about eyebrow blindness, and I reckon 238 00:11:18,265 --> 00:11:20,945 Speaker 2: she's going to have a pretty good point. 239 00:11:24,385 --> 00:11:29,865 Speaker 1: What a you makeup? Packs? All right, Kelly, talk to 240 00:11:29,945 --> 00:11:30,825 Speaker 1: me about eyebrows. 241 00:11:30,865 --> 00:11:34,785 Speaker 3: So you've probably seen this trend on TikTok. People are 242 00:11:34,785 --> 00:11:36,465 Speaker 3: talking about eyebrow blindness. 243 00:11:36,985 --> 00:11:38,145 Speaker 1: Eyebrow blindness. 244 00:11:38,145 --> 00:11:41,025 Speaker 2: Someone does their eyebrows either really bold or really feathery 245 00:11:41,225 --> 00:11:43,305 Speaker 2: or really sparse orsin or whatever. 246 00:11:43,305 --> 00:11:44,585 Speaker 1: I don't want to say. It does not look good, 247 00:11:44,585 --> 00:11:46,385 Speaker 1: but does not look flattering for their fish ships. Since 248 00:11:46,385 --> 00:11:48,505 Speaker 1: we've come to the group consensus that my eyebrows are 249 00:11:48,505 --> 00:11:50,545 Speaker 1: way too far apart, let's a ter'm fixing them. 250 00:11:50,665 --> 00:11:54,505 Speaker 3: I'm a recovering victim of eyebrow blindness, and I'm going 251 00:11:54,585 --> 00:11:58,785 Speaker 3: to show you how you can get over this. There 252 00:11:58,785 --> 00:12:03,265 Speaker 3: are some amazing examples where girls were like, oh, I 253 00:12:03,265 --> 00:12:06,385 Speaker 3: thought that my eyebrows were fine, and people were like, no, no, 254 00:12:06,425 --> 00:12:09,105 Speaker 3: try to do this, and the after was just insane. 255 00:12:09,665 --> 00:12:12,385 Speaker 1: Explain what eyebrow blindness is as a term. 256 00:12:12,385 --> 00:12:14,665 Speaker 3: Well, it basically just means that when you look in 257 00:12:14,705 --> 00:12:18,785 Speaker 3: the mirror, you are looking at your reflection, and to you, 258 00:12:18,785 --> 00:12:21,425 Speaker 3: your face looks exactly how it's supposed to be, and 259 00:12:21,465 --> 00:12:24,225 Speaker 3: you can't see that. Potentially your eyebrows are too thin, 260 00:12:24,625 --> 00:12:28,585 Speaker 3: or they're too far apart, like they're starting too far away, 261 00:12:28,625 --> 00:12:30,345 Speaker 3: or maybe the tail isn't long enough, like there are 262 00:12:30,345 --> 00:12:33,585 Speaker 3: so many areas that maybe your eyebrow could be tweaked, 263 00:12:33,665 --> 00:12:34,705 Speaker 3: could be tweaked. 264 00:12:34,425 --> 00:12:36,945 Speaker 2: Yeah, or you followed trends that don't sit your face exactly. 265 00:12:36,985 --> 00:12:39,305 Speaker 3: Let you waxed them all off when Pam Anderson was 266 00:12:39,785 --> 00:12:42,665 Speaker 3: thin brow of nineties Trent and they never grew back. Basically, 267 00:12:42,665 --> 00:12:44,425 Speaker 3: people are in the comments going no, no, no, try this 268 00:12:44,545 --> 00:12:47,185 Speaker 3: in a kind way. And then people are like, oh 269 00:12:47,185 --> 00:12:49,145 Speaker 3: my god, I had eyebrow blind and it's like I 270 00:12:49,145 --> 00:12:52,305 Speaker 3: didn't realize that's what myebrow was supposed to look like, 271 00:12:52,345 --> 00:12:57,465 Speaker 3: and supposed to is obviously subjective. So there's some amazing examples. 272 00:12:57,465 --> 00:12:59,465 Speaker 3: But I thought that if you want to have a 273 00:12:59,465 --> 00:13:01,905 Speaker 3: look at your own eyebrows at home without putting it 274 00:13:01,985 --> 00:13:06,025 Speaker 3: on the internet, caring out whether or not they're right 275 00:13:06,185 --> 00:13:08,385 Speaker 3: for your face, and please note that I am using 276 00:13:08,425 --> 00:13:10,625 Speaker 3: like quotation marks. When I'm saying this, it is all 277 00:13:10,745 --> 00:13:13,625 Speaker 3: very subjective. But a great way to do it is 278 00:13:13,665 --> 00:13:16,705 Speaker 3: actually map out your eyebrows, which is what I learned 279 00:13:16,745 --> 00:13:18,625 Speaker 3: so many years ago and I've always just used it. 280 00:13:18,905 --> 00:13:22,585 Speaker 3: So you can use like anything straight like a brush, 281 00:13:22,825 --> 00:13:25,865 Speaker 3: like a thin brush that you've got at home, or chopstick, chopsticker, 282 00:13:26,105 --> 00:13:29,105 Speaker 3: eyeline or whatever, and I want you to run it 283 00:13:29,345 --> 00:13:31,585 Speaker 3: straight from the side of your nose so where your 284 00:13:31,585 --> 00:13:36,065 Speaker 3: little nostril flare happens. If you directly put it up, 285 00:13:36,305 --> 00:13:41,825 Speaker 3: that is where your eyebrow should start, just there. And 286 00:13:41,865 --> 00:13:44,345 Speaker 3: then if you put it on the side of your nostril, 287 00:13:44,385 --> 00:13:47,625 Speaker 3: the same nostril and then run it up through your pupil, 288 00:13:48,785 --> 00:13:52,625 Speaker 3: wherever that hits is where it's supposed to peak, so 289 00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:55,665 Speaker 3: that's where your art is supposed to be. And then 290 00:13:56,025 --> 00:13:58,945 Speaker 3: same nostril, you run the stick or whatever you're using 291 00:13:59,625 --> 00:14:02,745 Speaker 3: to the outer corner of your eye up there that 292 00:14:02,865 --> 00:14:03,825 Speaker 3: is where your eyebrow is. 293 00:14:03,825 --> 00:14:07,505 Speaker 1: Supposed to finish. So that is very handy eyebrow mapping. 294 00:14:08,385 --> 00:14:11,505 Speaker 3: But if you have been one about eyebrow blindness, give 295 00:14:11,505 --> 00:14:12,305 Speaker 3: it a go at home. 296 00:14:12,465 --> 00:14:15,745 Speaker 2: Just have a little map. My little host tag is 297 00:14:16,465 --> 00:14:18,505 Speaker 2: if you have been living under a rock. You won't 298 00:14:18,545 --> 00:14:20,545 Speaker 2: know that skin tints are having a moment. Everything sort 299 00:14:20,545 --> 00:14:25,105 Speaker 2: of sheer and galow we skincare infused, makeup based coverage 300 00:14:25,145 --> 00:14:25,505 Speaker 2: or whatever. 301 00:14:25,625 --> 00:14:25,905 Speaker 1: Love it. 302 00:14:25,905 --> 00:14:27,665 Speaker 2: I've got a hundred of them. Guess what else I do. 303 00:14:27,665 --> 00:14:30,065 Speaker 2: Because I'm a little scientist. You make your own, make 304 00:14:30,105 --> 00:14:34,225 Speaker 2: my own. I have got some foundations that are too 305 00:14:34,265 --> 00:14:38,385 Speaker 2: mat wrong, color, too thick, too whatever. I make my own. 306 00:14:38,505 --> 00:14:40,865 Speaker 2: I don't make them and then put them in a pot. 307 00:14:40,905 --> 00:14:42,105 Speaker 2: I do it on the back of my hands. So 308 00:14:42,265 --> 00:14:46,505 Speaker 2: I've been using some beautiful serums. This is always after 309 00:14:46,825 --> 00:14:50,225 Speaker 2: my SBF. Please understand this is my foundation step. Never 310 00:14:50,305 --> 00:14:52,705 Speaker 2: mix your SPF. But I've been using some serums, some 311 00:14:52,825 --> 00:14:56,305 Speaker 2: gel moisturizers with a little bit of foundation that I 312 00:14:56,425 --> 00:14:58,305 Speaker 2: like or just want to sheer out that's full coverage, 313 00:14:58,305 --> 00:14:59,945 Speaker 2: and then maybe a little bit of highlighter, and you 314 00:15:00,065 --> 00:15:01,505 Speaker 2: just make the most beautiful little. 315 00:15:01,305 --> 00:15:04,385 Speaker 1: Cocktail in the back of your hand. It is so fun. 316 00:15:04,905 --> 00:15:06,505 Speaker 3: So if you want, you can really get exactly what 317 00:15:06,505 --> 00:15:08,265 Speaker 3: you're looking for that day and what your skin needs. 318 00:15:08,345 --> 00:15:11,385 Speaker 2: Yes, oftentimes, if I've got gradual tan on my body 319 00:15:11,385 --> 00:15:14,025 Speaker 2: but not my face, I'll use a fuller coverage foundation 320 00:15:14,065 --> 00:15:16,065 Speaker 2: on my face, but then I'll use the same foundation 321 00:15:16,425 --> 00:15:18,905 Speaker 2: much sheer with like a body something. Just because I've 322 00:15:18,905 --> 00:15:22,265 Speaker 2: got pigmentation on my chest evens it all out. So 323 00:15:22,265 --> 00:15:24,465 Speaker 2: if you've got a foundation that's too thick, too dark, 324 00:15:24,705 --> 00:15:26,945 Speaker 2: or you just want to kind of make your own tint, 325 00:15:27,545 --> 00:15:30,625 Speaker 2: mix it with your society, but not as your skincare step. 326 00:15:30,705 --> 00:15:33,225 Speaker 2: Do your skincare, do your son's green, then make your 327 00:15:33,225 --> 00:15:33,705 Speaker 2: own look. 328 00:15:33,625 --> 00:15:36,825 Speaker 3: T It's especially nice in winter when like your skin 329 00:15:36,905 --> 00:15:39,225 Speaker 3: needs that extra juice, So like putting that skin care. 330 00:15:39,425 --> 00:15:42,985 Speaker 2: My girlfriend who looks like a cherub, she always uses 331 00:15:43,225 --> 00:15:46,705 Speaker 2: one drop of facefall in her foundation. She's dryer, but 332 00:15:47,145 --> 00:15:49,985 Speaker 2: she looks like a light glow Yep. 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