WEBVTT - This Glorious Mess - The Ambulance That Didn’t Need To Be Called

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to another Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the

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<v Speaker 1>that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Rate islander cultures.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, it's Anali's Todd here from this Glorious Mess, introducing

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<v Speaker 2>hot Pod Summer, one hundred hours of curated listening across

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<v Speaker 2>the Mummamere network, just for you to escape the chaos

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<v Speaker 2>and enjoy with the kids at home and the weather

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<v Speaker 2>warming up. We've got episodes of Parents' Anonymous to share.

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<v Speaker 2>Parents Anonymous is part game show, part church confessional. You

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<v Speaker 2>share your deepest parenting shame, and myself and Stacey Hicks

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<v Speaker 2>rate you, but the worst parenting wins the most points,

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<v Speaker 2>so really you can't lose. And if you want more,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a link in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoy Parents Anonymous.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to this Glorious Mess.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Analy's Todd, one brazzled ring master trying to tame

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<v Speaker 2>a two ring circus of hormonal preteens and barely keeping

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<v Speaker 2>this shit show on the road.

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<v Speaker 3>OW that sounds like a fun time. And I'm Stacey Hicks.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the deputy editor here at Mama Meha and I

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<v Speaker 3>was a type A perfectionist and a control freak until

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<v Speaker 3>I had a toddler who now controls everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I would like more drama for your intro next. Oh sorry, feedback?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, welcome back to Parents Anonymous. It brought

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<v Speaker 2>to you by this glorious mess.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and Parents Anonymous is part church confessional, part game show.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's where you tell us a story and get

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<v Speaker 3>the guilt of your chest and we give you made

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<v Speaker 3>up points based on just how juicy the stories are.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's no real method to our point system. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just based on vibes. Vibe check. Yeah, it's just a

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<v Speaker 3>vibe check with except last week I actually revealed one

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<v Speaker 3>of my own confessions and scored an eleven out of ten.

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<v Speaker 3>So clearly we're doing something wrong with the rating system. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>because it was a good one.

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<v Speaker 4>It was my highest scoring system yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you're a tough marker.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually am Actually Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you missed the episode, we'll pop it in

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<v Speaker 3>the show notes. I had to maguiver in a situation

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<v Speaker 3>where I was busting for the actually, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>give it all away. You go back and listen to

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<v Speaker 3>the episode. But speaking about it in the office, it

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<v Speaker 3>obviously became big chatter here.

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<v Speaker 4>Any emojis ensued.

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<v Speaker 3>What of our colleagues said to me, Oh, yeah, we've

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<v Speaker 3>all done it, have we?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know if we have me.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not didn't share it with the soul for

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<v Speaker 3>three years, so that tells me that we probably don't

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<v Speaker 3>like That's how deep the shame was. But maybe she

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<v Speaker 3>was just trying to make me feel better. It was

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<v Speaker 3>good that you released it, Yes, physically and metaphorically release

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<v Speaker 3>safe space.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm just.

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<v Speaker 3>Waiting for you to reveal one of your secrets now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that will happen when you are least expecting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Stacy can't wait, and this show doesn't exist without your

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<v Speaker 2>guilty confession, So please leave us a voice note, or

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to be fully anonymous, let's see if

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<v Speaker 2>I've learnt to say, and we can protect your annomin note.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't stay an anominy to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week you can email us and we can read

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<v Speaker 2>it out for you and just have a look in

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Notes for all of your confession options.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, last week I submitted my confession fully anonymously. Not

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<v Speaker 3>even our producer Grace or an Alice knew that it

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<v Speaker 3>was me, so proof that it works, no one will

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<v Speaker 3>ever know it's you. So to get us in the

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<v Speaker 3>mood for confessing, we're just going to throw out a

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<v Speaker 3>few of our little mini confessions to make you feel better,

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<v Speaker 3>to make you feel safe with us. You know, we

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<v Speaker 3>are hot messes. We do stuff all the time. We're terrible, terrible,

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<v Speaker 3>terrible and sufferable people.

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<v Speaker 4>So humans. Really, it's just a little warm up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, these aren't too bad. But one of mine is

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<v Speaker 3>that when my daughter was at that point where there

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<v Speaker 3>about one or two where they just want to grab

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<v Speaker 3>everything that you have, and she used to be obsessed

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<v Speaker 3>with my phone.

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<v Speaker 4>Monkey see monkey do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well yeah, I'm not setting a grade room.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah.

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<v Speaker 3>She used to want to just grab it and slob

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<v Speaker 3>her all over it. So I used to sometimes pretend

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<v Speaker 3>I was reading a book, but really I had my

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<v Speaker 3>phone inside the book, so you were Wow, she wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>interested in my book.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were hiding your phone behind a book in

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<v Speaker 2>front of your child.

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<v Speaker 3>I regret nothing. It was great. Actually it's good.

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<v Speaker 4>And also it's better modeling.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly pick up your book, girls, look at mummy, perfect example.

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<v Speaker 4>That's actually genius. The modeling you well done.

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<v Speaker 2>And mine is a parenting strategy that I probably wouldn't recommend,

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<v Speaker 2>but look, it does work. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>potential trauma impacting to the children, but sometimes, because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a single parent, so when my kids are really kicking

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<v Speaker 2>off and fighting and they're not listening to me and

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't get them to stop, sometime I will

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<v Speaker 2>just pretend to have a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Teary and say I can't, guys, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't, you know, I'll pretend to cry as a defense mechanism.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine in the wild, in the jungle, like some

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<v Speaker 2>animals play dead.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like that. It's like just playing dead.

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<v Speaker 3>I can just imagine the beautiful little single tear trickling

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<v Speaker 3>down your cheek. I bet you can cry.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like crying just now thinking about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>so well versed at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Such a method, actress. I love it. So. On today's show,

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<v Speaker 3>we have three new mystery confessions that we haven't heard,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're hearing these for the very first time. And

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<v Speaker 3>this week. The names of them are. Bribery is always

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<v Speaker 3>on the cards, always correct. Did I waste emergency services time?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, another one of these?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, sorry to our frontline workers. And am I missing something?

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<v Speaker 2>My son was getting really nervous in soccer, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was in all honesty making him play badly. It was

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't like the sport or I was forcing him.

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<v Speaker 2>He loved training. It was just the games where he

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<v Speaker 2>got really in his head. So after weeks of this,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, if you can kick one goal, I will.

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<v Speaker 4>Literally buy you anything. Anything's in all capitals.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife was not super supportive of this, as it

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<v Speaker 2>was just bribery, not encouragement, but I told him the bet.

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<v Speaker 4>Was still on a bet. It's interesting, you said, language

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<v Speaker 4>will unpack that.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, he went out and played the best game and

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<v Speaker 2>kicked two goals. Sure it was straight up bribery, but

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<v Speaker 2>it got him out of his head. Say see, I

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<v Speaker 2>would argue, this is not bribery. This is recognition and

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<v Speaker 2>reward system exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an achievement plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we have to do this in work, we're measured

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<v Speaker 2>on metrics and results and success in primary school, high school, adult.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a realistic thing that we all have to

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<v Speaker 2>live by. Recently we had the Olympics, We've got the Paralympics.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gold medals. They're not just giving out participation medals.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gold, silver, and bronze. You are rewarded for excellence.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would argue that this is rewarding this soccer

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<v Speaker 2>player for excellence.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. I am concerned by the use of

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<v Speaker 3>the word anything, yes, because I feel like kids, you

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<v Speaker 3>give them an inch, they will take a mile. I

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<v Speaker 3>would love to know what he ended up picking.

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<v Speaker 4>Same like you know, I'm just thinking a.

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<v Speaker 3>Robot, Yeah, like a like was it a PS five? Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it would have been something like that, wouldn't it. And

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<v Speaker 3>two goals? Does that mean he got to pick two

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<v Speaker 3>things two of the same two ps fives. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like you've got to put them some conditions in place

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<v Speaker 3>in these Cozi lefts dives.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So for that, I think this is great. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know what people do stick a charts.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is the only the only thing here

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<v Speaker 2>is really just the use of the word anything yep

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<v Speaker 2>in these cause he lives times yep. So I would

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<v Speaker 2>say everything else in this is a parenting strategy.

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<v Speaker 4>Win I'm going to go eight soccer balls out of ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's fair. This is just positive reinforcement.

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<v Speaker 3>This is like, you know, every time the dog goes outside,

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<v Speaker 3>do we and you did?

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<v Speaker 2>Good boy?

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<v Speaker 4>This is just that toilet training for soccer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly, love it, love it. I will give you

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<v Speaker 3>nine soccer balls out of ten.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it all right.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, on to the next And the next one

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<v Speaker 3>is called did I waste emergency services time? And I

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<v Speaker 3>think if you're asking the question, the answer is probably yes.

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<v Speaker 4>It's good self reflection though, that's yeah, first up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but here we go. One night, my child was

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<v Speaker 3>screaming like she was in a horrific pain. It was

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<v Speaker 3>scary and so full on. I thought something terrible was

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<v Speaker 3>going on to her internal organs. Oh, that's sorry, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't mean to laugh. That's awful. I called an ambulance.

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<v Speaker 3>They arrived, all sirens and two paramedics. They diagnosed the

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<v Speaker 3>problem pretty quickly. Though. It was a night terror. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>oh look, my little one has night terrors. Sometimes it

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<v Speaker 3>is very dramatic. It does feel like a very scary thing.

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<v Speaker 3>In the middle of the night, when your child is screaming,

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<v Speaker 3>it's your worst fear as a mom that your child

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<v Speaker 3>is in pain. It's fight or flight, and you went

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<v Speaker 3>with fight. You went after right.

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<v Speaker 2>To the emergency services system and come to my house

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<v Speaker 2>and reassure me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. Once actually I called the police because there

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<v Speaker 3>was four intruders in my backyard when I was eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>It was first time having the whole house to myself.

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<v Speaker 3>My parents were away. It was four of my mates

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<v Speaker 3>that rocked up and thought it would be funny to

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<v Speaker 3>scare me, and three police cast And that's.

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<v Speaker 4>A waste of emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like we actually had one of our confessions

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<v Speaker 2>on an early episode. We'll share the link in our

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<v Speaker 2>show notes where someone actually staged a breaking into situation

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<v Speaker 2>to their children to see if they would call the police,

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<v Speaker 2>and they did. Now, that is a waste of time.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just probably a bit of over zealousy, first

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<v Speaker 2>time parenting, not knowing the signs.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what you could do.

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<v Speaker 2>There's great phone numbers you can call before you call

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<v Speaker 2>the ambulance, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, but the worst thing would be if you didn't

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<v Speaker 3>call and then something horrible was happening. So I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like the fast response time you have to get a

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<v Speaker 3>few bonus points for that, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, and when it comes to health and safety, it's

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<v Speaker 2>better just to just call.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think you didn't waste their time. But now

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<v Speaker 2>you know about the night terrors. It's a learning but

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's okay. So for this one, we should

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<v Speaker 2>deduct points for it being just a night terror. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm giving you some for being so quick and caring

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<v Speaker 2>about your kids. So I'm going to give you seven

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<v Speaker 2>nightmares out of ten.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna give you six ambulance as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think if this person or anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Really feels some stress in the future, we can just

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<v Speaker 2>give you a little guided meditation. You can just come

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<v Speaker 2>back to episode yep, and you can just play it

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<v Speaker 2>and you can just immerse yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you guiding this?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you that we can both guide week and birth guy?

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<v Speaker 4>You are doing a good job. Everything will be okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Children are said to try us. It is all okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's probably just a night terror. But you're not

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<v Speaker 4>a terrible parent.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a great parent. Actually you're a terrific parent. So okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's enough of that. We hope you're sufficiently calm, and we've.

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<v Speaker 2>Got one more dilemma to bring it homestays coming up

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<v Speaker 2>after the All right, stay's last dilemma for today? Am

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<v Speaker 2>I missing something?

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<v Speaker 3>Bring it on?

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<v Speaker 2>I've been reading some friends Facebook posts recently about their kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and they read you are my whole world. All I

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<v Speaker 2>need is you, and you are my wildest dream come true.

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<v Speaker 2>My confession is that I don't feel this way about

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<v Speaker 2>my son, even though I love him very much.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wonder if these people are happier than I am,

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<v Speaker 4>and I wonder if they're lying.

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<v Speaker 2>As a working mum, I've chosen to pursue a career

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to motherhood. I have dreams and a life

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<v Speaker 2>outside of my son. Motherhood is far from.

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<v Speaker 4>Magical, but it is good, the hardest job I'll ever love.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this

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<v Speaker 2>way right now.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, we just need to caveat.

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<v Speaker 2>We are not opening the working and non working mother debate.

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<v Speaker 4>We are not entering into that trope.

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<v Speaker 2>We are not kicking that can because we are all

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<v Speaker 2>about being united. It's not about working and not working.

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<v Speaker 2>It is about expressing your love publicly to the world

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 4>And I have thoughts.

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<v Speaker 3>As much as you love your child. They're not on

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<v Speaker 3>your Facebook. No, why are you writing little love poems

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<v Speaker 3>to them on there? As if they can't read, they're

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<v Speaker 3>a bit stupid. Still, that is for you. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a love dedication for you. Look, it's lovely. We actually

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't judge a bit. It's lovely that you love your child.

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<v Speaker 3>But sometimes I feel like those things are a bit

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<v Speaker 3>performative insufferable. Insufferable is the right word. We all love them.

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<v Speaker 3>We all love them, we also can't stand them sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>depending on the time of day. So absolutely fine that

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<v Speaker 3>you don't feel like your child is your whole world,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we're allowed to have interests and passions outside of them.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely, what are you thinking? What are these thoughts? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I co parents, so if my kids more

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<v Speaker 4>my whole world, I would be miserable for fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Of my time and I'd be wandering around the world aimlessly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's actually really healthy to have things

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<v Speaker 2>outside your children.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you're alone. And also I think if

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<v Speaker 4>people really.

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<v Speaker 2>Do feel like that about the kids, that's okay as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I think good on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like either way, if you feel like that, good and

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't, great do you know it? Want to

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<v Speaker 2>be a good use of time is if you wrote

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<v Speaker 2>these feelings down in a journal that you turned into

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<v Speaker 2>letters that you gave to your child that they could

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<v Speaker 2>read one day yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Or we have an email for our daughter, so anytime

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<v Speaker 3>we want to send her like a picture or write

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<v Speaker 3>a little thing, so on the eve of like a

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<v Speaker 3>birthday or something, we just send her a little email

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<v Speaker 3>on her email address and hope that will still exist

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<v Speaker 3>for her to look at when she's grown up. But

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<v Speaker 3>I just I think if you're writing that your childe

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<v Speaker 3>your whole world on your Facebook, you're lying say ha

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<v Speaker 3>ha ha, I've.

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<v Speaker 4>Never seen you so hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so harsh today.

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<v Speaker 4>Very feisty, and I'm here I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so the judging, I fully support you. I agree

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<v Speaker 3>they need to stop. It's annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I mean I'm not quite as harsh as you today,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a first. I think that they don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to stop. They could channel this into a little journal

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<v Speaker 2>or email system, as we discussed, would be a more

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<v Speaker 2>productive use of their time. And then also it might

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<v Speaker 2>not make people who don't feel this way feel as

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<v Speaker 2>bad that they don't feel this way. So that's in

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<v Speaker 2>a nutshell. The email and journal love capturing system is

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<v Speaker 2>probably the preferred communication method moving forward for expressing love

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<v Speaker 2>for your children. But they didn't write into us. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the one who didn't feel this way. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>fine that you don't feel this way. So for that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm giving you eight love journals out of ten.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm giving you nine Facebook posts out of ten. Good

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<v Speaker 3>on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, reflecting on the three confessions from the day,

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<v Speaker 2>bribery is always on the cards, although we did declare

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<v Speaker 2>that wasn't bribery, that was recognition and reward. Confession two

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<v Speaker 2>did I waste emergency services time? We also declared that

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't waste emergency services time? And Confession three? Am

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<v Speaker 2>I missing something? No, you're not missing something. But out

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<v Speaker 2>of the three confessions, I can't even remember the scores

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<v Speaker 2>now we went.

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<v Speaker 3>To be honest, we are so rogue with our scores.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that we probably canceled each other out. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's more of a vibe feeling. Which one's sticking with

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<v Speaker 3>us as the winner is the real question.

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<v Speaker 2>I really feel like Confession one, which we landed, was

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<v Speaker 2>not bribery.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think you're just a legend and you just

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<v Speaker 3>know how to parent correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a recognition and reward system. They will set

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<v Speaker 2>them up to excel potentially in life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're our winner. Confession No one.

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<v Speaker 4>Feshion one, non bribery is always on the cards.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've got a confession, we would love to hear

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<v Speaker 3>from you. Please send us your secret shames. We can't

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<v Speaker 3>get enough of them. All the details are in the

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<v Speaker 3>show notes.

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<v Speaker 4>See you next time, See you next time.

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