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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: I'm Claire Murphy. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily news podcast,

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Speaker 1: The Quickie. How many times have you been told to

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Speaker 1: wronged you? Well, what if all that advice about forgiveness

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Speaker 1: isn't actually the healthiest approach? Before I explain more, here's

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Speaker 1: the news headlines a Thursday, June five. It's RSV awareness

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Speaker 1: Week and with last year's record breaking infection numbers here

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Speaker 1: in Australia, we're being urged to be more vigilant when

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Speaker 1: it comes to protecting ourselves from the seasonal outbreak. While

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Speaker 1: we're often told to prepare for the oncoming cold and

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Speaker 1: flu season, there were also one hundred and seventy five thousand,

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Speaker 1: seven hundred and eighty six cases of RSV recorded in

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Speaker 1: Australia in twenty twenty four, with more than eighty six

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Speaker 1: thousand of those children aged under four. Doctor Andrew Rochford

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Speaker 1: explains that it can present similarly to colds and flu,

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Speaker 3: RSV, or respiratory sinsiti or virus, is a common and

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Speaker 3: highly contagious respiratory infection that shares symptoms with colds and

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Speaker 3: flu like cough, fever, and congestion. However, RSV specifically targets

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Speaker 3: deeper parts of the lungs, causing inflammation that can lead

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Speaker 3: to serious conditions like bronchiolitis and pneumonia, especially in older adults.

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Speaker 3: Unlike influenza, which has antiviral treatments available, RSV currently lacks

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Speaker 3: specific antiviral therapies, so management mainly involves supportive care, symptom

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Speaker 1: Since twenty twenty one, RSV cases have been rising, with

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Speaker 1: an annual average increase of one hundred and forty six percent.

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Speaker 1: If that trend continues, Australia's facing yet another record year

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Speaker 1: of infection. Doctor Rochford says, like colds and flus, it's

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Speaker 1: our behavior that can spread it around.

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Speaker 3: RSV spreads easily through drop life, from sneezes, coughs, or

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Speaker 3: on contaminated surfaces. Symptoms typically include a running nose, cough, sneezing, fever, headache, tidness,

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Speaker 3: and in severe cases, shortness of breath. And weezing. Most

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Speaker 3: healthy individuals recover within one to two weeks with rest, hydration,

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Speaker 3: may require hospitalization. Older adults that are hospitalized with RSV

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Speaker 3: and may experience lasting health complications that impact their long

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Speaker 1: While children often make up the majority of cases, it's

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Speaker 1: older Aussies who are most at risk from severe symptoms

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Speaker 1: and further complications. Doctor Rochford says we need to do

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Speaker 3: Older Australians are particularly at risk from RSV due to

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Speaker 3: compared to young children under five. To protect yourself and others,

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Speaker 3: particularly older adults, good hygiene practices are essential. Frequent hand washing,

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Speaker 3: disinfecting common surfaces. Additionally, older adults should consult their healthcare

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Speaker 3: professional about strategies to reduce RSV risk, which can include

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Speaker 1: Three weeks after Queensland teenager Phoebe Bishop went missing from

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Speaker 1: Phoebe had been living in Gingin with two people. She

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Speaker 1: she claimed she'd been confronted by her estranged husband Simon,

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Speaker 1: Patterson denied any exchanges between her and her in laws

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Speaker 1: were rude or had upset or hurt anyone. A candlelight

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Speaker 1: vigil's been held outside Darwin's Parliament in support of a

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Speaker 1: Northern Territory community who lost another young man in police custody.

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Speaker 1: Hundreds of people attended the vigil in support of Kumanjai

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Speaker 1: Justice not Jails spokesperson Jade Ritchie said no police should

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Speaker 1: There are reports that Prince Harry considered changing their surname

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Speaker 1: Spencer meeting with Harry's uncle, Diana's brother Charles to discuss it.

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Speaker 1: In the caption, Meghan writes that this was them four

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Speaker 1: years ago, explaining that both Lilibet and Archie were a

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Speaker 1: and his favorite adventurer. That's what's been happening in the

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Speaker 1: world today. Next, why a grudge could be good? Do

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Speaker 1: you ever hold a grudge? Has someone wronged you and

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Speaker 1: despite everything, you just can't seem to shake it off? Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's not a bad thing. Taylor Strato explains how

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Speaker 1: holding grudges might just change how we deal with life's disappointments.

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Speaker 2: Ry Here, we're bombarded with the same tired advice about

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Speaker 2: high road. But what if holding onto certain grievances is

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Speaker 2: actually good for us? British writer Sophie Hannah certainly thinks so.

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Speaker 2: In her book How to Hold a Grudge, she suggests

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Speaker 2: creating what she calls a grudget. That's a grudge budget,

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Speaker 2: by the way, where we decide which grudges are actually

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Speaker 2: valuable enough to keep around. Now, before you dismiss this

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Speaker 2: as promoting bitterness, Hannah explains that a grudge doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to be vengeful or all consume it. Instead, she sees

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Speaker 2: thoughtfully maintained grudges as a form of emotional intelligence, a

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Speaker 2: way to find power in bad memories. Rather than pretending

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Speaker 2: that they never even happened. Okay, if it's not making

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Speaker 2: When friends once made her sleep in a bed full

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Speaker 2: off completely or see with resentment. She simply remembered what

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Speaker 2: at that house again. Think of your grudget like a

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Speaker 2: financial budget. Just as you decide where to spend your money,

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Speaker 2: your grudget helps you decide where to invest your emotional energy. Okay,

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Speaker 2: here are some test scenarios. Number one, the colleague who

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Speaker 2: constantly underestimates your abilities. Are they worth a permanent spot

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Speaker 2: in your grudget? Absolutely? The person whose politics don't align

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Speaker 2: with yours, that's a maybe. And the person who imposes

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Speaker 2: best grudges, according to Hannah, maintain what she calls a

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Speaker 2: the initial stink has faded. You don't need to feel

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Speaker 2: rage about past slights, but remembering them might influence how

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Speaker 2: you approach similar situations in the future. However, Hannah is

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Speaker 2: crystal clear on one point. Grudges should never lead to revenge.

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Speaker 2: The grudge should protect you, not consume you. There's a

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Speaker 2: difference between impotent anger, that festering rage that just sits there,

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Speaker 2: making your day more and more unpleasant, and active anger,

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Speaker 2: which motivates us to fix problems and move forward. So

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Speaker 2: next time someone tells you to just get over it,

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Speaker 2: remember that grudges might be serving you better than their advice.

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Speaker 2: After all, as Hannah would say, grudges can be great

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Speaker 2: when they're the right ones.

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