WEBVTT - Do I Tell My Friend Her Partner Sucks?

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to I'm Am A mea podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome to Unleash, the podcast for gen X

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<v Speaker 2>women who need a laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have spent.

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<v Speaker 2>Hours trying to crimp your hair, welcome, your found your people.

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<v Speaker 1>So, who is on the couch today?

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<v Speaker 3>Hi?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Mary Cuss, I'm an actress, rider, I'm Brune Pevendre,

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<v Speaker 4>a film and TV producer.

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<v Speaker 3>Grace Bam Bam lamb fashion stylers.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, I'm Kat Mahoney, my honey, my honey. Right, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>wherever you're listening and clencher jewel, clencher, pelvic floor. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get ready to unleash.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, who wants the floor?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh go Grace, As you might not know that I

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<v Speaker 3>am in love with Lewis Hamilton, seven times world champion,

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<v Speaker 3>a former one eight times in my book, and he

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<v Speaker 3>is the David Beckham of F one. Okay, welcome to

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<v Speaker 3>my world. And Jason knows about this.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, infidelity, it's pretty clear on your social media.

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<v Speaker 1>Very clear.

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<v Speaker 3>And recently there were rumors about him dating Kim Kardashian.

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<v Speaker 4>It was more than rumors, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>So at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Beginning was rumors, but now they've hard launched their relationship

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<v Speaker 3>in the formulaa Monico Grand Prix because she went to

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<v Speaker 3>the Grand Prix. Now all his loyal f one fans

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<v Speaker 3>are so against this, including me, right, So I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I need to say something to my Lewis Hamilton.

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<v Speaker 3>So Lewis listen to me. I don't think she's right

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<v Speaker 3>for you, because clearly I'm more right for you than

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<v Speaker 3>she is.

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<v Speaker 1>Grace, I've got to ask, why do you think she's

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<v Speaker 1>so wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't comprehend that someone like him, who's so

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<v Speaker 3>good on and off the track, all the amount of

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<v Speaker 3>work that he's done off the track to help the

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<v Speaker 3>underprivileged kids or the charity works that he's done, he

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<v Speaker 3>is just a good human, whereas hers all about attention

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<v Speaker 3>seeking and she's just what kind of talent has she got?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know, And as this number one fan,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say to Sir Louis, ditch her because

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<v Speaker 3>you can do better. I don't think Kim is right

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<v Speaker 3>for you because I am right for you clearly, and

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<v Speaker 3>as much as she is all that, I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>think she's your woman. So as a loyal fan, I

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<v Speaker 3>am totally against it. What I want to ask you, ladies,

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<v Speaker 3>have you ever worn a girlfriend when you see that

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<v Speaker 3>they're dating someone who's very dodgy or not right for her,

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<v Speaker 3>and what happened to that relationship?

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<v Speaker 4>Mah, Well, I have a very close male friend and

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<v Speaker 4>he was dating someone and I didn't think it was

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<v Speaker 4>for maybe the right reasons. He's quite wealthy, he's great guy,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the best people you could ever have a friend.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just felt like she was very icy of

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<v Speaker 4>all his friends, and there was like a real negative energy.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't say anything because it was traveling fast in

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<v Speaker 4>a very serious direction. But it didn't last, and now

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<v Speaker 4>he's with someone that we all love. But no, I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a real worse when it comes to saying stuff

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<v Speaker 2>to people who were dating the wrong people, because I

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<v Speaker 2>just think when I was younger, I'd said it to

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<v Speaker 2>a few people and then they got married, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just I'm really cautious about doing that. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>I have been that nightmare friend that has gone with

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<v Speaker 2>all of the dramas that a current boyfriend has given me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, really like kind of got into the nitty

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<v Speaker 2>gritty of what a douchebag he was they've totally agreed

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<v Speaker 2>we should split up. We've split up, and then I've

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<v Speaker 2>got back together with that person, and then that person,

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<v Speaker 2>your friend is just sat there going, oh, I've said

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<v Speaker 2>all this shit about them, and now I've got.

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<v Speaker 5>That person.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh where I'm too early when they split, I'm too early.

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<v Speaker 4>I go in too hard, too honest. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>like you're so much better off.

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<v Speaker 5>He's this, he's that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I just go full like I'm all about you,

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<v Speaker 4>and they always get back together, and then I'm the

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<v Speaker 4>idiot who told the truth. So I've stopped doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really cautious now. In fact, I did it the

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<v Speaker 4>other day where someone was talking about a breakup and

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<v Speaker 4>I thought I was doing the right thing to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they're not that smart, you can do better,

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<v Speaker 4>and they went full defensive mode of that. So I'm

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<v Speaker 4>out on honesty. I'm out on honesty. I wish I

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<v Speaker 4>could be that honest friend, but I can't.

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<v Speaker 5>I've done both.

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<v Speaker 3>I've won my friends and they've also worn me. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think with relationships sometimes you have to go through

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<v Speaker 3>it until you hit rock bottom or until you can

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<v Speaker 3>see that person's not good for you, and then you leave.

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<v Speaker 4>Has anyone ever told you you're dating the wrong person?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, A friend did. In the early days.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy that took my cherry was ten years older

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<v Speaker 2>than me. To take it, he took it on holiday

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<v Speaker 2>with somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's popped my cherry.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to clarify, yeah, yeah, pop, he took my popped,

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<v Speaker 2>he popped my balloon. I mean that was never gonna work.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was seventeen, he was twenty seven. So my

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend was just I think preempting the heartbreak that came.

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<v Speaker 2>Two months after he popped my cherry.

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<v Speaker 4>I went out with a guy that was very polarizing.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't I wouldn't say we're an official couple, but

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<v Speaker 4>we dated for quite a while. He was a lot

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<v Speaker 4>older than me. And this friend, this male friend that

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<v Speaker 4>was with someone that I didn't think was great for him,

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<v Speaker 4>was the one that pulled me to the side and said,

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<v Speaker 4>are you really thinking about this? This person's got a

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<v Speaker 4>terrible reputation. I don't know about this. I'm really worried

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<v Speaker 4>about you, and you know what, I agreed with him,

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<v Speaker 4>but I still went out with that person for a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to think who it is now? Is it

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<v Speaker 5>a famous football commentator?

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<v Speaker 4>Piss off.

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<v Speaker 5>To take my mind back in the day, Next brilliant girls.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a confession, Jake, premium on screen drama. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>that you'll enjoy for adults, for grown ups. But here's

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<v Speaker 4>my dirty little secret. So I can't get enough of

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<v Speaker 4>this kind of sexy teen drama that is taking the

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<v Speaker 4>world by storm. I'm talking about off campus. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 4>about the summer I turn pretty. I'm talking about every

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<v Speaker 4>summer after. I'm talking about hated rivalry. Like there's just

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<v Speaker 4>so much out there for the young people right now,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm watching all of it.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it. Do I have a problem?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I get it. I mean, look, love is never

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<v Speaker 4>more exciting, I think than when it's crushy and when

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<v Speaker 4>it's innocent. But Mary, it's not innocent. Like we grew

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<v Speaker 4>up on the OC and not grew up. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I was older when I was watching it, but like

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<v Speaker 4>we grew up on Felicity and like that stuff that

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<v Speaker 4>Weeginex's grew up and is so tame compared to what

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about, like the off campuses.

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<v Speaker 5>Of the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you love it because your daughter loves it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I love it because there's something we can share.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not just like young women. Like apparently the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest demographic tuning in is women who are thirty to

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<v Speaker 4>fifty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I am in that demographic. I am mad for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you've been, if you know og and Lisha,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll know that I talked about heated drive away in.

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<v Speaker 1>At one back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm only halfway through off Campus. Holy Moly, Holy Moley.

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<v Speaker 2>And the good thing is Hannah and Garrett are the

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<v Speaker 2>leads in that. Hannah is a nineteen year old actress.

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<v Speaker 2>Garrett is played by a twenty nine year old man,

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<v Speaker 2>so he is fair game.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as I'm concerned to perve on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it works at our age because it brings

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<v Speaker 2>that innocence back and a bit like Mary said, it

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<v Speaker 2>takes you back to being seventeen. So for me when

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<v Speaker 2>I was sort of sixteen or seventeen, apart from wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to leave the small town I lived in, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and have a great career, I just wanted the happy

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<v Speaker 2>ever after. All the pop songs, all the movies we

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<v Speaker 2>watched were all promising you meet the guy and then

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be fabulous, And back then you had that hope

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<v Speaker 2>that there would be a happy ever after. As we

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<v Speaker 2>get to our age, even if you're still with your

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<v Speaker 2>happy ever after, you know, there's sleepless nights, there's kids,

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<v Speaker 2>there's kind of you know, there's separate bedrooms, there is mortgages,

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<v Speaker 2>there's stress, there's dishwashers to empty.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're seventeen, you don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Have any of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Watching it to reclaim that optimism a bit for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so, And I think it takes you back,

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<v Speaker 2>like you feel watching it, you're back in that space again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it is just and it's steamy. Yeah, it's steamy,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's great. And you also it's not a guilty secret,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like that we are the biggest demo watching

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<v Speaker 2>these kind of these movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it because.

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<v Speaker 4>Back in those days, when we were younger, we didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have great expectations when it came to relationships. It was

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<v Speaker 4>usually a pretty physical thing, it was a chemistry thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It was all in our imaginations. We didn't expect them

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<v Speaker 4>to have great income, come with no drama, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like all the things we put on adult relationships and

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<v Speaker 4>all the expectations and pressures we put on adult relationships.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it because it was just pure lustful love, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever that crushiness was that we don't tend to

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<v Speaker 4>feel the od we yet. But I think it's actually

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit cultural, like the Americans, like there's a reason.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's not that many Australian shows that we

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<v Speaker 4>can point to that do this right, but there is

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<v Speaker 4>something the Americans do, Like the Americans have a college

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<v Speaker 4>experience in a way that we do not, right. The

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<v Speaker 4>Americans have like they like I remember going to America

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<v Speaker 4>to live and they were like, well, we're dating, and

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<v Speaker 4>the whole idea of dating is like a real thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to declare your exclusive where we just like

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<v Speaker 4>sleep with people in Australia we have like one night stance.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not like it's very different, it's very structured. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's something that we romanticize about American drama.

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<v Speaker 4>Like This New One I watched every summer after that's

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<v Speaker 4>a massive book series. I was so involved and engaged

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<v Speaker 4>because it is like really nostalgic and really basic romance

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of like will these two people who you

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<v Speaker 4>want to be together be together?

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<v Speaker 2>You're so open when You're young to love, aren't you,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think as we age, you're so much more

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<v Speaker 2>guarded to falling in love. So these shows allow you

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<v Speaker 2>as the viewer to just fall in the way that

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<v Speaker 2>you did when you're a teenager, you know, without without escape.

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<v Speaker 1>Net.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to disagree. I watched one episode and I

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<v Speaker 3>hated it so much, which because first of all, off

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<v Speaker 3>campum camp. Because first of all, I don't find any

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<v Speaker 3>of those people attractive. I mean, I do understand all

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<v Speaker 3>the muscle from Brussels, or all the bumbs and all

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<v Speaker 3>the tits, but none I find none of them attractive.

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<v Speaker 3>It was way too Americanized for me, and I just

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was just too I just, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>because Bruno Pepperoni kept banging on about it. I started

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<v Speaker 3>watching it and me and Jason, my husband, I had

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<v Speaker 3>to fast forward the whole thing. I just couldn't deal

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<v Speaker 3>with it. And then I start watching Heated Rivalry and

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. First episode I was very different because

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<v Speaker 3>when I watched something in I look at the camera angle,

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<v Speaker 3>I look at the artistic direction, I look at everything

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<v Speaker 3>about the lighting. Off Campus does nothing of that, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like thinking, I'm wasting wasting my time watching

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<v Speaker 3>that show.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe you're not the audience.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely not.

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<v Speaker 4>But I will say, obviously ice skating, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 4>a big comeback here.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe if you want to find someone there.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the lesson and all the shows head to the

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<v Speaker 4>ice skating ring.

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<v Speaker 5>Girls.

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<v Speaker 3>So, ladies, would you want to go back in time

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<v Speaker 3>to a teenage self? Me?

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<v Speaker 5>Definitely not.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, not to relive it, but I'd like to

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<v Speaker 2>go back and tell her it's all going to be okay,

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<v Speaker 2>even the shipbits, and that it is. There is no

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<v Speaker 2>happy ever after, It just continues in highs and lows.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Oh, I don't know whether i'd want to.

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<v Speaker 4>There were good times and there were crushing times as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that was really hard. You're trying to find

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<v Speaker 4>out who you are and where you fit and all

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<v Speaker 4>of those things. But I do miss that crushiness. I

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<v Speaker 4>do miss someone walking past you and you're losing your breath,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, all all of that stuff that lived in

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<v Speaker 4>our heads so much, and you know, our really overactive imaginations.

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<v Speaker 5>So I miss that.

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<v Speaker 1>Brunes.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I definitely don't want to go back.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, I think every stage is kind of amazing,

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<v Speaker 4>but I definitely don't want to go back. But I

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<v Speaker 4>saw a great Instagram post the other day, you guys,

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<v Speaker 4>probably on the same feet as me, but it was

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<v Speaker 4>a woman dancing and she was like, I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 4>to convince people I'm thirty five. I'm showing thirty five

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<v Speaker 4>year olds how good it is to be fifty five

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<v Speaker 4>something like that. It was something like that, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, that's how I feel. Do you guys think

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<v Speaker 4>that like part of the appeal of these shows is

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<v Speaker 4>because it's of the complexity of like young adult life

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<v Speaker 4>right now, Oh, an escape.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're that young, you're very free, right, free from trouble,

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<v Speaker 3>financial burden, You're just trying to find your feet, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in the world, right, So I think it's all about

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<v Speaker 3>how to build a relationship with your friends. Just having

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<v Speaker 3>fun getting drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>Is so freeing.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think it's a sign of the times where

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<v Speaker 4>people are watching more of this stuff because it's so

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<v Speaker 4>difficult to go out there and spend money because of

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<v Speaker 4>the cost of living. And do you think people are

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<v Speaker 4>escaping to romance and to young, you know, more optimistic

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<v Speaker 4>ways of being. Do you think that's as popularity? Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that, like technology has a lot to do

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<v Speaker 4>with it, because I think we're so you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>electronics AI, everyone's so desensitized that I think people are

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<v Speaker 4>craving the kind of basic things, and I think romance

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<v Speaker 4>is thriving right now in film and TV because of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't think we had an shows to watch

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<v Speaker 4>with our parents. I don't remember watching anything. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously my parents were migrants, so what would I sit

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<v Speaker 4>and watch with them? They didn't really want to watch

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<v Speaker 4>English speaking shows, and back then maybe SBS had a

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<v Speaker 4>few Greek shows. They'd watch the news and maybe on

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<v Speaker 4>like Happy Days in the Brady Barmy we did, but

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't watch it as a family.

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<v Speaker 5>You didn't see I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean what I know from Mcropolis now the show

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<v Speaker 4>that I was in that birth Defie. People loved watching

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<v Speaker 4>that with their parents because it was one of those

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<v Speaker 4>shows that you know, minimized, marginalized Australians. New Australians I

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<v Speaker 4>suppose what they were called back then, could watch this show.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, two generations could watch the same show and

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<v Speaker 4>get the same thing out of it. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 4>that experience with my parents in terms of what I

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<v Speaker 4>watched when I was young, do you think there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of mothers that are watching these shows with their kids,

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe that's where the older demographics.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's a lot of co viewing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when these shows really take off, there's two

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<v Speaker 4>things that happened. Either people are viewing it in different

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<v Speaker 4>generations and demographics, or they're watching it repeatedly. Yeah. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>like the summer I turned pretty these kids just watched

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<v Speaker 4>and watched and watched.

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<v Speaker 5>You know the boys Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not watching it once stranger things, they're watching it

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<v Speaker 4>over and over again and they're debating it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you come watch off campus with Lewis?

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<v Speaker 5>Can you?

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<v Speaker 1>Or heated rivalry?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So I think that's just some solo viewing at

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<v Speaker 1>my house.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm obviously a bad parent.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of team drama, can we do a little blast

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<v Speaker 2>in the past?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Something I read this week actually just took me right

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<v Speaker 2>back down memory lane. Okay, So I am English, but

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<v Speaker 2>we moved to South Wales and I was four and

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<v Speaker 2>moved to a town called porth Call. I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in Newton, which was a tiny little village in poorth Call,

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<v Speaker 2>and our house was right next to this twelfth century church.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally you could climb from my house into the church graveyard.

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<v Speaker 2>Kylie Minogue and Quentin Tarantino just filmed some scenes there.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard about this, Yes, anyway, it took me back

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<v Speaker 2>to remember that age where you were active in a

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<v Speaker 2>pashing sense or a snogging sense, probably not having sex,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, having the kisses.

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<v Speaker 1>But you didn't have a car. The guy that you

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<v Speaker 1>with didn't have a car.

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<v Speaker 2>You were not bringing them into the house for a snog.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't go to bars, you know, a cinema for

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<v Speaker 2>us was twenty minutes away. We were really limited for

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<v Speaker 2>where you could cop off for people, and so there

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<v Speaker 2>were two places to pash in Newton Village when you

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<v Speaker 2>were like thirteen or fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>There was the bush shelter.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the good thing was the bush shelter was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a quadrant, so there were four sides to

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<v Speaker 2>the bush shelter.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you've gone on a date with a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Other couples, you you could take a corner and not

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<v Speaker 2>be seen. So it was the bush shelter or the graveyard.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is a time when we're trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>Wiegi bars, when we're all scared shitless with all of

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<v Speaker 2>the rating movies we've never seen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pitch black. It gets dark in the UK at

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<v Speaker 1>five pm.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're there on a Friday night at ten pm

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<v Speaker 2>passing in a graveyard, it does give you the hebgb's.

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<v Speaker 2>So you try not to think about ghosts. When do

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<v Speaker 2>you know when you're heavy petting and having a snog.

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<v Speaker 4>Were you worried that your parents were just next door

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<v Speaker 4>that they could possibly look over the things?

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<v Speaker 1>There was no street lights, no down lights. It's scared.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just you and a lot of dead people. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of these people had been buried there since like

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<v Speaker 2>the sixteen hundred, so you're pretty sure that they weren't popping.

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<v Speaker 1>Up, but still popping up. A few things popped on

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<v Speaker 1>the jeans. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>My point is I was doing my business in a

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<v Speaker 2>twelfth century Sue.

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds like you're indug You've to go business.

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<v Speaker 2>Doing the business. And as you know, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>heavy petting, it was just snogging. So ladies, blast from

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<v Speaker 2>the past. Where did you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>There's weirdest place you have snogged or pashed?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I from a very young age. A lot of us,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure worked part time jobs, and I got a

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<v Speaker 4>job working in the ice cream department at Maya did

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<v Speaker 4>the City Department. It was a food court type of thing,

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<v Speaker 4>and I worked in the ice cream.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they should bring that back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, obviously I'm not a big fan of ice cream,

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<v Speaker 4>but I worked there and I remember I had to

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<v Speaker 4>go back to a storeroom to get something and the

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<v Speaker 4>young boy that I was also working at that place

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<v Speaker 4>with he came to help me carry some things back

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<v Speaker 4>and we had a pass in the collroom.

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<v Speaker 5>In the ballroom, it was Colledge.

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<v Speaker 3>It was who started it first.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I don't know. Maybe I was like gigging like

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<v Speaker 4>an idiot on the way sending the message.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I can't remember,

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<v Speaker 4>but I just just remember it was hot in a

0:18:53.834 --> 0:18:56.434
<v Speaker 4>very cold environment. Well let me let me let me

0:18:56.594 --> 0:19:01.074
<v Speaker 4>take you to something that is literally the physical opposite

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<v Speaker 4>of that. Yeah, my I would say most anonymous.

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<v Speaker 5>Adventure inurist pash occurred.

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<v Speaker 4>I've been living overseas for a few years and I

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<v Speaker 4>came back and I was staying to remember the Como

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<v Speaker 4>Hotel in Melbourne, which was the place.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so picture me. I'm going up to.

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<v Speaker 4>The pool and I'm in a robe and the lift

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<v Speaker 4>doors open, and standing before me is.

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<v Speaker 5>Like an Adonis.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, gorgeous model like Adonnis. And he's in a robe

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<v Speaker 4>and he says, my key's not working to the spa.

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<v Speaker 4>Can someone let me in? And I go, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I let him in.

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<v Speaker 4>He follows me into the sauna. Yes, not the freezer, Mary,

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<v Speaker 4>the sauna, and some major passion occurred and it was

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<v Speaker 4>completely names were not exchanged hot hot from room to sauna.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was in a huge park with mountains behind

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<v Speaker 3>me where people go hiking. Which country I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>say because then, okay, person will know I'm like talking

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<v Speaker 3>about him. And it was nine pm. Start off as

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<v Speaker 3>a snog, and then one thing led to another and the.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you standing up? Are you sitting down?

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<v Speaker 3>And you are standing up in the middle of the park.

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<v Speaker 3>No one was around, and it was very dark, and

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<v Speaker 3>as we were snogging, one thing led to another. I

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<v Speaker 3>found myself, you know, just about to get some action.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel in the park, in the park standing up, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when you can feel someone's behind you.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't. My mother by the way, I felt someone

0:20:48.834 --> 0:20:52.833
<v Speaker 3>was behind me, and we both turn around. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a group of wild dogs surrounding us.

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<v Speaker 5>Like this story got very dark, right, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I thought, oh my god, I'm scared of dogs

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<v Speaker 3>at that point right now. I love dogs, but when

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<v Speaker 3>it's like so many of them looking at us, you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Like in National Geographic Documentary, when a whole group of

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<v Speaker 3>like hyhenas looking at you. That was exactly what was happening.

0:21:13.834 --> 0:21:16.313
<v Speaker 3>And then slowly they were coming towards us. And I

0:21:16.394 --> 0:21:19.474
<v Speaker 3>was slowly pulling back for this guy and he said,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you do, do not run. I mean, I said

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<v Speaker 3>to him, I can't run with my nickas down my anchors.

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<v Speaker 5>By the way, so we were.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally did the moon walk slowly trying to go

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<v Speaker 3>back to safety. All the dogs coming towards they were

0:21:34.114 --> 0:21:37.313
<v Speaker 3>coming to us like this, right, I mean, I have

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<v Speaker 3>to say, like when when they saw my Chinese bun

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<v Speaker 3>they want a bite of it, I have to say,

0:21:42.434 --> 0:21:44.954
<v Speaker 3>I have a cute bun. So then I moon walked

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<v Speaker 3>back and once we got to safety, I ran like

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<v Speaker 3>a bitch and then escape.

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<v Speaker 5>I went from a snot sexy part moment. Yes horror

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<v Speaker 5>film Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>We also used to go to the local laundromat that

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<v Speaker 4>was hot.

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<v Speaker 1>No worry.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we had a laundromer at the top of the street.

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<v Speaker 1>You do it wherever you could, couldn't it?

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<v Speaker 4>Really?

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<v Speaker 5>I would not go to a graveyard.

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<v Speaker 4>It's tragic when you have to hang out at a

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<v Speaker 4>laundromaticon we're not doing your washing with Greek mother doing

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<v Speaker 4>my washing, but I'm hanging out a load of sexy

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<v Speaker 4>What's happened to just simple people watching? I wonder because

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<v Speaker 4>I read Sarah Wilson when she got asked why she

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<v Speaker 4>had moved to Paris, and one of her simplest ways

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<v Speaker 4>of justifying her move to Paris. This is a well

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<v Speaker 4>known writer and podcaster and she's got a huge social

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<v Speaker 4>media following, she said, because the chairs face outward, and

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<v Speaker 4>there is an art form to people watching in Europe.

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<v Speaker 4>They like to sit out and watch life pass them

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<v Speaker 4>by and people pass them by, and it's my favorite pastime.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't get enough of that stuff no matter where

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<v Speaker 4>I am, whether it's at a bus stop or a

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<v Speaker 4>tram stop, picking up my kid from school, at the lights,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see what people are doing. But it

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<v Speaker 4>seems these days people are so interested in what's happening

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<v Speaker 4>virus screen that they're forgetting to look up and look out.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was listening to the brilliant Esther Perell, who

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<v Speaker 4>was fantastic. She was on No Filter with Kate Langbrook

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<v Speaker 4>and she was talking about how much of a dying

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<v Speaker 4>art form it is to just talk to strangers. Just

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<v Speaker 4>have these little, beautiful community moments of just talking to

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<v Speaker 4>someone of which you're not trying to get anything out

0:23:38.834 --> 0:23:42.634
<v Speaker 4>of them. It's just saying hello, smiling, studying a conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a listened to what she has to say.

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<v Speaker 6>Yesterday, when I landed, I was waiting for the uber

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<v Speaker 6>and a young woman was standing in front of me

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<v Speaker 6>and she heard me leave a message to someone and

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<v Speaker 6>she turned around and she started talking and we had

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of a chatter.

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<v Speaker 4>You here first time, Yes I am, No.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just told I said, wow, this is becoming

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<v Speaker 6>an exception. And it was so nice because we had

0:24:05.674 --> 0:24:08.074
<v Speaker 6>a long queue and learned lot of things. She learned

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 5>But it is no longer a given.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the fact that the spontaneity of it, the serendipity

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<v Speaker 6>of it is no longer just an obvious thing. It's

0:24:20.314 --> 0:24:22.594
<v Speaker 6>it's you notice it, but also when you ad the

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<v Speaker 6>recipient of it, you realize, oh my god, I don't

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<v Speaker 6>get this so often anymore.

0:24:27.794 --> 0:24:29.354
<v Speaker 1>I used to this used to be part of my

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<v Speaker 1>daily life.

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<v Speaker 6>That kind of what I would call a social lubricant

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<v Speaker 6>is not present. So then everything starts to feel like

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<v Speaker 6>it's an unusual effort.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and then you become suspicious of any encounter because

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<v Speaker 2>you're so unused to it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, more and more people began to lose their social skills.

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<v Speaker 6>That there is a massive social atrophy. When you don't

0:24:56.274 --> 0:24:59.634
<v Speaker 6>use a muscle, the muscle atrophies. It is no different

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<v Speaker 6>in our social life.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I grew up on a main road in Collingwood. We

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<v Speaker 4>watch the world walk past every single day. We knew

0:25:08.994 --> 0:25:11.834
<v Speaker 4>our neighbors' names, we knew what nationality they were, where

0:25:11.874 --> 0:25:14.594
<v Speaker 4>the parents worked. You go to the local milk bar,

0:25:14.754 --> 0:25:17.754
<v Speaker 4>you talk to the person there. They'd shout you something.

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<v Speaker 4>I still talk to strangers all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>That is one of my favorite pastimes. But it seems

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<v Speaker 4>to be a dying art form. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>when you discover things that you don't anticipate. I was

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<v Speaker 4>in an uber the other day going to the airport,

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<v Speaker 4>and the guy that picked me up didn't seem that helpful.

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<v Speaker 4>Suddenly they don't like opening the boot or helping you

0:25:37.674 --> 0:25:39.394
<v Speaker 4>in put your case in the boot. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh I gay a bit chili con carnty from this

0:25:41.354 --> 0:25:44.994
<v Speaker 4>guy was cool des ice, And we sat in the

0:25:45.034 --> 0:25:48.354
<v Speaker 4>car and four minutes in he spills his guts to me,

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<v Speaker 4>because he I'm just a genuinely curious person. I'm not

0:25:51.754 --> 0:25:53.954
<v Speaker 4>going to tell anyone except for a listening audience on

0:25:53.994 --> 0:25:58.033
<v Speaker 4>a podcast, Long Story Long, this guy tells me about

0:25:58.114 --> 0:26:01.994
<v Speaker 4>how his marriage was falling apart, his wife started having affairs,

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<v Speaker 4>He went through a really hard time, and then he

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<v Speaker 4>came back to his marriage and decided that he was

0:26:08.954 --> 0:26:12.074
<v Speaker 4>going to fight for it, and then told me that

0:26:12.274 --> 0:26:19.674
<v Speaker 4>they're swinging, okay, swung in a direction I anticipated either.

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<v Speaker 4>By the time I got to the airport, I knew

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<v Speaker 4>more about this person than probably anyone else sexually that

0:26:26.674 --> 0:26:31.033
<v Speaker 4>I'm close to. So I just wonder, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 4>are we missing out on discovering things about how people

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<v Speaker 4>live because we're not having those conversations. Are we losing

0:26:37.754 --> 0:26:40.513
<v Speaker 4>our social lubric Well, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>A chatterbox and I love stories, and I think you

0:26:43.394 --> 0:26:45.994
<v Speaker 2>and I are similar when it comes to curiosity. And

0:26:46.194 --> 0:26:48.994
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I'm on my own for a few days, you know,

0:26:48.994 --> 0:26:51.314
<v Speaker 2>if I'm writing at home, if Lewis is at his dad's,

0:26:51.594 --> 0:26:54.394
<v Speaker 2>I don't see anyone. So I am starved for that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am the person that will just chat to

0:26:57.274 --> 0:27:00.474
<v Speaker 2>someone in Nicole's queue. There are people in Centennial Park

0:27:00.674 --> 0:27:04.714
<v Speaker 2>that I speak to every day when I walk. Any

0:27:04.714 --> 0:27:07.513
<v Speaker 2>of their names, but we've like looped each there for

0:27:07.634 --> 0:27:10.434
<v Speaker 2>like seven rays. So there's a lovely Russian guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>about hundred who looks a bit like al Pacino.

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<v Speaker 1>But I live for this stuff. Yeah, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>get the.

0:27:16.074 --> 0:27:19.714
<v Speaker 2>Gold, so I'm probably, Yeah, it's definitely not dying in

0:27:19.754 --> 0:27:20.234
<v Speaker 2>my world.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, it's so dying in mine. I mean,

0:27:23.354 --> 0:27:25.114
<v Speaker 5>I'm a little bit of the opposite to you, do

0:27:25.274 --> 0:27:27.954
<v Speaker 5>I think? I mean, I have this joke with my husband.

0:27:27.954 --> 0:27:31.834
<v Speaker 4>He goes, oh, he goes on a plane, and I go, oh,

0:27:31.874 --> 0:27:33.994
<v Speaker 4>how'd you sleep? He goes, oh, not much. I was

0:27:34.074 --> 0:27:36.354
<v Speaker 4>just talking to the person next to me the whole night,

0:27:36.794 --> 0:27:39.434
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, what are you talking about? Like,

0:27:39.554 --> 0:27:43.714
<v Speaker 4>I'm on the plane, the headphones go on, I'm sending

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<v Speaker 4>the signal.

0:27:44.874 --> 0:27:48.594
<v Speaker 5>Do not interact with me because I'm just like in

0:27:48.634 --> 0:27:49.154
<v Speaker 5>the zone.

0:27:49.234 --> 0:27:52.154
<v Speaker 4>And I think I've become more like that now, I

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<v Speaker 4>will say, I will have.

0:27:54.754 --> 0:27:55.754
<v Speaker 5>The occasional conversation.

0:27:55.794 --> 0:27:58.553
<v Speaker 4>In fact, I had a similar experience with a driver

0:27:58.674 --> 0:28:01.674
<v Speaker 4>recently actually in Sydney, and he told me the most

0:28:01.714 --> 0:28:04.354
<v Speaker 4>amazing life story, Like I was like, I kind of

0:28:04.354 --> 0:28:05.794
<v Speaker 4>wanted to give hi my number by the end of

0:28:05.834 --> 0:28:09.154
<v Speaker 4>the drive. So I do agree with esther that it's

0:28:09.154 --> 0:28:11.394
<v Speaker 4>a dying art and that we need to be more open.

0:28:11.394 --> 0:28:13.914
<v Speaker 4>And I certainly see in young people that they barely

0:28:14.074 --> 0:28:17.394
<v Speaker 4>call their friends and interact in usk questions, let alone strangers.

0:28:17.954 --> 0:28:20.514
<v Speaker 4>So I think I could probably do with a bit

0:28:20.554 --> 0:28:23.594
<v Speaker 4>more of it. My husband's the opposite. He actually believes,

0:28:24.074 --> 0:28:27.474
<v Speaker 4>like he'll get in a cab and even if someone's

0:28:27.514 --> 0:28:30.754
<v Speaker 4>giving off negative energy, he believes he can shift their energy,

0:28:31.034 --> 0:28:34.114
<v Speaker 4>and so he'll always engage and find out the story

0:28:34.434 --> 0:28:35.994
<v Speaker 4>and kind of get to the heart of it. And

0:28:36.434 --> 0:28:38.274
<v Speaker 4>I am a bit envious of people like that because

0:28:38.314 --> 0:28:39.554
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I am that person.

0:28:39.714 --> 0:28:43.714
<v Speaker 3>I love talking to everyone off I'm so good at it. Yeah,

0:28:43.794 --> 0:28:46.594
<v Speaker 3>I mean not to blow haunt, but I started when

0:28:46.634 --> 0:28:48.874
<v Speaker 3>I moved to Melbourne year ago. I thought, we don't

0:28:48.914 --> 0:28:51.514
<v Speaker 3>know anybody. Yeah, I want to meet people, so I

0:28:51.554 --> 0:28:55.354
<v Speaker 3>start my IG series MSG Melbourne stuff O great.

0:28:55.594 --> 0:28:56.394
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I saw that.

0:28:56.674 --> 0:28:58.754
<v Speaker 3>I go up to people who look cool and I say,

0:28:58.794 --> 0:29:00.194
<v Speaker 3>can I take a picture of you? And we start

0:29:00.234 --> 0:29:03.154
<v Speaker 3>talking and you know, we start connecting on Instagram. And

0:29:03.194 --> 0:29:05.074
<v Speaker 3>as you know, I'm a huge Formula one fan, so

0:29:05.114 --> 0:29:07.554
<v Speaker 3>that's how I meet form On fans. When they wear

0:29:07.714 --> 0:29:10.594
<v Speaker 3>anything merged from F one, I will go up to them,

0:29:10.754 --> 0:29:13.754
<v Speaker 3>especially if they were Lewis Hamilton, the best of all time.

0:29:14.954 --> 0:29:17.394
<v Speaker 3>I will go up and strike a conversation. And I

0:29:17.434 --> 0:29:19.514
<v Speaker 3>have my own F one club, you know, WhatsApp group,

0:29:19.794 --> 0:29:22.074
<v Speaker 3>so I find it quite easy to talk to people.

0:29:22.114 --> 0:29:24.514
<v Speaker 3>And I also want to set an example to my

0:29:24.874 --> 0:29:28.754
<v Speaker 3>kid how you strike a conversation, because nowadays young people

0:29:28.794 --> 0:29:31.034
<v Speaker 3>don't know how to start conversation. And when I talk

0:29:31.114 --> 0:29:33.114
<v Speaker 3>to people a bit younger, sometimes I don't even look

0:29:33.154 --> 0:29:33.314
<v Speaker 3>at you.

0:29:33.354 --> 0:29:33.794
<v Speaker 5>In the eye.

0:29:33.874 --> 0:29:36.354
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they just find it really hard to engage.

0:29:36.434 --> 0:29:38.554
<v Speaker 3>And I really don't want my son to become like that.

0:29:38.954 --> 0:29:42.074
<v Speaker 3>So he's very used to me chatting away with strangers

0:29:42.314 --> 0:29:43.874
<v Speaker 3>talk about this and that. I mean on the way

0:29:44.114 --> 0:29:46.554
<v Speaker 3>from Melbourne to here on my flight, there was a

0:29:46.594 --> 0:29:49.914
<v Speaker 3>girl she checked in a massive cello. It was so

0:29:50.074 --> 0:29:51.634
<v Speaker 3>big that everyone.

0:29:51.354 --> 0:29:52.154
<v Speaker 5>Was like, what the hell.

0:29:52.754 --> 0:29:54.194
<v Speaker 3>So I went up to her and said it's a

0:29:54.234 --> 0:29:56.554
<v Speaker 3>dead body in there, and she goes, aha, yeah, And

0:29:56.594 --> 0:29:58.634
<v Speaker 3>I said how long you've been playing? She's been playing

0:29:58.634 --> 0:30:01.714
<v Speaker 3>since she was eight. She goes around the country. I mean,

0:30:01.914 --> 0:30:04.834
<v Speaker 3>there's people have such interesting stories, and I think we

0:30:04.954 --> 0:30:07.754
<v Speaker 3>need to share more stories. I loved chatting to people

0:30:07.794 --> 0:30:10.074
<v Speaker 3>and just get to know what's going with their lives

0:30:10.194 --> 0:30:11.874
<v Speaker 3>and then we say goodbye, no string attached.

0:30:11.954 --> 0:30:14.794
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I do it from the stage every single show

0:30:14.834 --> 0:30:17.394
<v Speaker 4>I do. There is half of that is improvised, where

0:30:17.434 --> 0:30:20.314
<v Speaker 4>I'm just talking to the audience, and that's everyone's favorite

0:30:20.314 --> 0:30:23.154
<v Speaker 4>part of the show because then the people in the

0:30:23.194 --> 0:30:25.914
<v Speaker 4>audience get to start and I just think we've got

0:30:25.954 --> 0:30:29.514
<v Speaker 4>to keep curiosity alive. I just think social currency is

0:30:29.554 --> 0:30:32.874
<v Speaker 4>the most valuable one. If you can't feel confident to

0:30:32.914 --> 0:30:35.154
<v Speaker 4>walk into a room where you can strike up a

0:30:35.194 --> 0:30:39.834
<v Speaker 4>conversation with someone, you're really handstrung by what the opportunities

0:30:39.874 --> 0:30:41.474
<v Speaker 4>are going to come your way. You can't rely on

0:30:41.514 --> 0:30:43.554
<v Speaker 4>a piece of paper anymore. We know that a degree

0:30:43.794 --> 0:30:46.074
<v Speaker 4>is not going to open doors anymore. We know that

0:30:46.154 --> 0:30:48.274
<v Speaker 4>if you know someone that can open a door, that's

0:30:48.274 --> 0:30:50.594
<v Speaker 4>considered like nepotism, So that's got a bit of a

0:30:50.634 --> 0:30:52.954
<v Speaker 4>stench to it. So you can only really rely on

0:30:52.994 --> 0:30:56.514
<v Speaker 4>your confidence, and your confidence comes from being able to

0:30:56.594 --> 0:30:59.914
<v Speaker 4>connect with people yourself. I think the most powerful people

0:30:59.954 --> 0:31:02.474
<v Speaker 4>in the world are the ones that are not privileged

0:31:02.514 --> 0:31:08.194
<v Speaker 4>by money or attractiveness, but by character, by having the

0:31:08.234 --> 0:31:10.474
<v Speaker 4>confidence to go in there and feel like you can

0:31:10.634 --> 0:31:14.074
<v Speaker 4>improvise in real time with people, and you know, I

0:31:14.114 --> 0:31:18.074
<v Speaker 4>have a conversation, exchange ideas and make a connection that way.

0:31:18.154 --> 0:31:20.314
<v Speaker 4>That seems to be a dying art form. And I

0:31:20.354 --> 0:31:23.554
<v Speaker 4>really worry about young people because most of them can't

0:31:23.754 --> 0:31:26.634
<v Speaker 4>really even hold a conversation or carry one, or even

0:31:26.674 --> 0:31:29.514
<v Speaker 4>answer a question beyond a yes or no, which I

0:31:29.514 --> 0:31:32.314
<v Speaker 4>think is really concerning. Can I just like be counted

0:31:32.314 --> 0:31:34.434
<v Speaker 4>to that because we all have a lot of young

0:31:34.474 --> 0:31:36.794
<v Speaker 4>people in our lives, and I don't know, I see

0:31:36.834 --> 0:31:40.594
<v Speaker 4>them kind of starting conversations and kind of thinking and

0:31:40.634 --> 0:31:43.394
<v Speaker 4>being interested in things and kind of engaging with each

0:31:43.434 --> 0:31:46.114
<v Speaker 4>other in a way that or with each other. Yeah,

0:31:46.114 --> 0:31:48.994
<v Speaker 4>but with a friend group, with groups like I see

0:31:48.994 --> 0:31:51.794
<v Speaker 4>them kind of engaging and being in the world.

0:31:51.914 --> 0:31:52.154
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:52.274 --> 0:31:55.274
<v Speaker 4>Look, kids will always play, right, I'm not talking about that.

0:31:55.314 --> 0:31:57.834
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about a young person being even able to

0:31:57.834 --> 0:32:00.194
<v Speaker 4>have a conversation with an older person that is not

0:32:00.274 --> 0:32:04.474
<v Speaker 4>their parent or you know, or an older person actually

0:32:04.554 --> 0:32:07.234
<v Speaker 4>showing some genuine interest into a younger person, not just

0:32:07.274 --> 0:32:10.834
<v Speaker 4>doing what's convenient, what's logical, or what's exactly.

0:32:10.954 --> 0:32:12.474
<v Speaker 3>I mean, may you started this to talk about this

0:32:12.754 --> 0:32:16.194
<v Speaker 3>people watching. When I get into my building's lift, I

0:32:16.234 --> 0:32:20.034
<v Speaker 3>always struck a conversation with my neighbors. And one time

0:32:20.114 --> 0:32:22.714
<v Speaker 3>I was in the lift by myself. Two people came in,

0:32:22.914 --> 0:32:25.394
<v Speaker 3>a couple older couple. They must he must be in

0:32:25.394 --> 0:32:28.034
<v Speaker 3>his seventies and she must be late late sixties, and

0:32:28.074 --> 0:32:30.914
<v Speaker 3>they were very lovely dovey with each other. And I

0:32:30.994 --> 0:32:34.794
<v Speaker 3>started saying, because there was so lovely dovey, I said, Jesus,

0:32:34.794 --> 0:32:37.514
<v Speaker 3>get a room, let me in, or something like that, right,

0:32:37.834 --> 0:32:39.874
<v Speaker 3>And then she she just turned around looked at me.

0:32:39.954 --> 0:32:42.674
<v Speaker 3>She goes, oh, hello, sorry about no, no, no, no, you

0:32:42.674 --> 0:32:45.154
<v Speaker 3>guys are so loved I was so cute. And then

0:32:45.874 --> 0:32:48.514
<v Speaker 3>she said, oh, we just met at the party last night.

0:32:48.554 --> 0:32:50.954
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, that's so sweet. And then I said

0:32:50.954 --> 0:32:53.354
<v Speaker 3>to her, watch out for that one to the guy.

0:32:53.754 --> 0:32:56.074
<v Speaker 3>Pointing at the guy, I said, he's a naughty one.

0:32:56.354 --> 0:32:58.674
<v Speaker 3>He looked at me and gave me a look, and

0:32:58.714 --> 0:33:01.274
<v Speaker 3>that's when I thought, oh my god, I've seen him

0:33:01.634 --> 0:33:02.354
<v Speaker 3>with his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>No I know, no. So then he looked.

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<v Speaker 3>At me like with like dagger's eyes, and I quickly said,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm only joking. And then we both went to the car.

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<v Speaker 3>We got out, and then he makes some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>joke and I was like, oh my god, that was

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<v Speaker 3>a bit crazy. So that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been so.

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<v Speaker 5>Nosy paying attention.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, too much attention.

0:33:36.634 --> 0:33:39.794
<v Speaker 2>It's that time in the show where we take a

0:33:39.834 --> 0:33:40.874
<v Speaker 2>problem from a listener.

0:33:41.314 --> 0:33:43.834
<v Speaker 1>We call it other people's problems. Yay.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the part of the show where you, the listeners,

0:33:46.434 --> 0:33:49.794
<v Speaker 2>send in your dilemmas and we, the hosts, give you

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<v Speaker 2>terrible advice. You ready, ladies, Okay. Today's problem comes from Katie,

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<v Speaker 2>who says, dear unleash ladies, my younger sister has been

0:34:00.154 --> 0:34:03.714
<v Speaker 2>posting things on Facebook that I'm a bit befuddled by.

0:34:04.154 --> 0:34:07.594
<v Speaker 2>She posts about our childhood with long captions about breaking

0:34:07.674 --> 0:34:11.993
<v Speaker 2>generational cycles and how toxic it was growing up. The

0:34:12.034 --> 0:34:15.994
<v Speaker 2>problem is I was there, and while our parents weren't perfect,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know what she's talking about. Last week,

0:34:19.474 --> 0:34:22.274
<v Speaker 2>she posted a photo of versus kids with the caption

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<v Speaker 2>no one knew what was happening behind closed doors. Oh

0:34:27.194 --> 0:34:30.034
<v Speaker 2>but from what I remember, we were just eating apricot

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<v Speaker 2>chicken and watching Hey hey it's Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Cousins are commenting things like you're so brave, and I'm like,

0:34:37.154 --> 0:34:41.114
<v Speaker 2>what is going on? Am I the asshole? Can two

0:34:41.154 --> 0:34:44.594
<v Speaker 2>siblings have completely different childhoods in the same house? Is

0:34:44.634 --> 0:34:45.594
<v Speaker 2>this an attention thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Help? All right, ladies?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think what advice she needs?

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<v Speaker 5>To have a conversation with her sister?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, if that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Not a light small thing, right, Like, obviously her sisters

0:34:59.914 --> 0:35:02.114
<v Speaker 4>had some kind of negative experience. I don't think she

0:35:02.114 --> 0:35:07.553
<v Speaker 4>would be randomly posting that's pretty inflammatory. So my advice is, yeah,

0:35:07.634 --> 0:35:10.514
<v Speaker 4>have an honest conversation with your sister and find out

0:35:10.594 --> 0:35:13.993
<v Speaker 4>what's there. Well, I do think that two siblings can

0:35:14.074 --> 0:35:16.674
<v Speaker 4>be looking at things from different points of view and

0:35:16.754 --> 0:35:19.714
<v Speaker 4>without I mean, it does the way it's written, it

0:35:19.834 --> 0:35:22.554
<v Speaker 4>sounds like she has created this whole other story that

0:35:22.594 --> 0:35:27.154
<v Speaker 4>maybe didn't exist. But maybe maybe something did happen to

0:35:27.234 --> 0:35:31.634
<v Speaker 4>this sister, and if she is lying, maybe something happened

0:35:31.674 --> 0:35:34.474
<v Speaker 4>to her for her to want to tell that lie.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know. Look, my brother and I grew

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<v Speaker 4>up in the same house, and when we look back

0:35:39.474 --> 0:35:42.234
<v Speaker 4>at history, he'll not have noticed something that I did,

0:35:42.274 --> 0:35:44.554
<v Speaker 4>and vice versa. And I always say to him, well,

0:35:44.594 --> 0:35:47.274
<v Speaker 4>between the two of us, we've got it covered. Because

0:35:47.394 --> 0:35:49.234
<v Speaker 4>he was looking at it through his lens and I

0:35:49.314 --> 0:35:51.274
<v Speaker 4>was looking at it through mine. And I did a

0:35:51.274 --> 0:35:53.634
<v Speaker 4>one woman show and I gave him the script just

0:35:53.674 --> 0:35:55.913
<v Speaker 4>before I started rehearsing it and said, you know, you

0:35:55.914 --> 0:35:59.074
<v Speaker 4>should read this. It's about our life. And he came

0:35:59.154 --> 0:36:02.994
<v Speaker 4>up the stairs and he said, I don't remember that

0:36:03.114 --> 0:36:05.754
<v Speaker 4>ever happening in that room that night. And my mother

0:36:05.794 --> 0:36:08.274
<v Speaker 4>didn't know what we were talking talking about, and she said,

0:36:08.314 --> 0:36:12.074
<v Speaker 4>what are you talking about? And I retold a scene

0:36:12.114 --> 0:36:14.194
<v Speaker 4>that happened at a hospital with a family friend of

0:36:14.234 --> 0:36:16.554
<v Speaker 4>ours that was dying and what I witnessed in the

0:36:16.594 --> 0:36:19.914
<v Speaker 4>moments after the death, and that was like the highlight

0:36:20.114 --> 0:36:23.394
<v Speaker 4>scene in the show. And my mother, without knowing that

0:36:23.394 --> 0:36:25.514
<v Speaker 4>that was the scene we were talking about. Said what

0:36:25.554 --> 0:36:27.234
<v Speaker 4>are you talking about? And I said, you remember that

0:36:27.274 --> 0:36:28.873
<v Speaker 4>time when we were at the hospital and such and

0:36:28.914 --> 0:36:31.794
<v Speaker 4>such died, And she went straight to the bit that

0:36:31.874 --> 0:36:34.834
<v Speaker 4>I highlighted in the in the script. So my brother said,

0:36:34.914 --> 0:36:37.194
<v Speaker 4>I was there. I wasn't looking at that. So sometimes

0:36:37.194 --> 0:36:39.994
<v Speaker 4>I think we're looking at very different things. It is

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<v Speaker 4>the same house. There is a part of the way

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<v Speaker 4>that that's written that makes me think that the sister

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<v Speaker 4>is probably making a lot of it up, or at

0:36:47.314 --> 0:36:50.234
<v Speaker 4>least amplifying it to a degree that maybe me makes

0:36:50.274 --> 0:36:53.314
<v Speaker 4>you think that because her own sibling is seeing it

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<v Speaker 4>very very loud to your point, like, I mean, I'll

0:36:56.034 --> 0:36:58.034
<v Speaker 4>remember things that my mum will go that didn't happen.

0:36:58.714 --> 0:37:00.794
<v Speaker 4>I'll be like, I've worked part time but much because no,

0:37:00.874 --> 0:37:02.154
<v Speaker 4>you didn't, but did you know?

0:37:02.754 --> 0:37:04.514
<v Speaker 5>I think not. I think she has a better memory

0:37:04.514 --> 0:37:04.794
<v Speaker 5>than me.

0:37:05.194 --> 0:37:08.314
<v Speaker 4>But I'm just saying, like some people really specific things

0:37:08.354 --> 0:37:11.154
<v Speaker 4>from children, and some people just have blocked.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think that the brilliant Gabel Mates always said this,

0:37:15.434 --> 0:37:18.194
<v Speaker 3>a group of children's siblings live in the same household

0:37:18.354 --> 0:37:21.594
<v Speaker 3>would have very different experiences, right, And I think sometimes

0:37:21.594 --> 0:37:25.394
<v Speaker 3>with siblings like I've had this experience, not that anything

0:37:25.594 --> 0:37:29.553
<v Speaker 3>crazy happened, but I told a story once in front

0:37:29.594 --> 0:37:31.954
<v Speaker 3>of my siblings, and one of them said to me,

0:37:33.034 --> 0:37:35.114
<v Speaker 3>why you always make it up, like as if we

0:37:35.154 --> 0:37:38.314
<v Speaker 3>had a really bad childhood and it wasn't my intention.

0:37:38.634 --> 0:37:41.754
<v Speaker 3>And then I thought, well, that's your thought. This is

0:37:41.794 --> 0:37:44.114
<v Speaker 3>my story, my side of a story. We're so different,

0:37:44.434 --> 0:37:47.794
<v Speaker 3>so exactly your point, Bruno, like, sometimes when things happen

0:37:47.874 --> 0:37:50.873
<v Speaker 3>to you, you look at it very different lens to

0:37:50.954 --> 0:37:54.074
<v Speaker 3>your siblings, because we're all so different and we take

0:37:54.114 --> 0:37:57.794
<v Speaker 3>things so differently. And I kind of feel this this

0:37:57.874 --> 0:37:58.514
<v Speaker 3>girl's sister.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think she's lying.

0:38:00.154 --> 0:38:03.154
<v Speaker 3>I think she's desperately trying to tell her older sister

0:38:03.274 --> 0:38:06.354
<v Speaker 3>or youngest sister a story that she's not even asking,

0:38:06.954 --> 0:38:09.634
<v Speaker 3>and whether it's severe or not, all you have to

0:38:09.634 --> 0:38:12.114
<v Speaker 3>do is ask her and maybe say, you know what,

0:38:12.154 --> 0:38:14.674
<v Speaker 3>I'd much rather you'd come and talk to me than

0:38:14.754 --> 0:38:15.594
<v Speaker 3>put it on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I think Katie, you say like, I'm trying to

0:38:17.234 --> 0:38:19.274
<v Speaker 4>understand what it is you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>It agreed, and not come with judgment.

0:38:22.074 --> 0:38:25.194
<v Speaker 2>I guess if Katie approaches his sister with perhaps we've

0:38:25.234 --> 0:38:27.754
<v Speaker 2>seen things differently or I don't remember things the way

0:38:27.754 --> 0:38:30.634
<v Speaker 2>that you do. You know, share with me, take me

0:38:30.674 --> 0:38:33.554
<v Speaker 2>through it, Talk me through it, how you feeling, what happened?

0:38:33.754 --> 0:38:35.114
<v Speaker 1>You know, what can we do about it?

0:38:35.794 --> 0:38:38.994
<v Speaker 2>I am not pro putting this stuff on Facebook, though,

0:38:39.074 --> 0:38:42.074
<v Speaker 2>I do think this is not always the place for

0:38:42.914 --> 0:38:43.994
<v Speaker 2>people to pick over you.

0:38:44.354 --> 0:38:46.714
<v Speaker 3>But also I feel sometimes with families and siblings that

0:38:46.954 --> 0:38:50.994
<v Speaker 3>they the level of respect is very different from, you know,

0:38:50.994 --> 0:38:54.514
<v Speaker 3>from maybe how they treat their friends, because if you're family,

0:38:54.514 --> 0:38:56.754
<v Speaker 3>they feel like, oh, you know, what you're feeling doesn't matter,

0:38:56.794 --> 0:38:59.074
<v Speaker 3>because we're siblings, you know, we should it should be fine.

0:38:59.714 --> 0:39:03.594
<v Speaker 3>But I think, especially in my family, because we're also

0:39:03.914 --> 0:39:09.474
<v Speaker 3>such strong women, we sometimes does each other's feelings without

0:39:09.514 --> 0:39:12.634
<v Speaker 3>even realizing. Now, at fifty three young, I realize that's

0:39:12.674 --> 0:39:14.834
<v Speaker 3>what we've been doing all the time, and this has

0:39:14.874 --> 0:39:15.594
<v Speaker 3>got a change.

0:39:15.674 --> 0:39:17.873
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I need to say what Ginny would say, like,

0:39:18.114 --> 0:39:19.074
<v Speaker 4>I'm a Google doctor.

0:39:19.114 --> 0:39:23.034
<v Speaker 5>I'm not your doctor. I'm a Google psychologist.

0:39:23.154 --> 0:39:26.554
<v Speaker 4>I'm not your psychologist, So please take what I've said.

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<v Speaker 1>With a look.

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<v Speaker 4>I obviously look at everything through a theatrical lens, like

0:39:30.594 --> 0:39:32.794
<v Speaker 4>I look for character, and I look for comedy, and

0:39:32.834 --> 0:39:36.114
<v Speaker 4>I look for tragedy. And I look for those things

0:39:36.114 --> 0:39:38.554
<v Speaker 4>that serve my work and the way I like to

0:39:39.194 --> 0:39:42.714
<v Speaker 4>read into people's lives and create theater out of the

0:39:42.754 --> 0:39:44.953
<v Speaker 4>every day. So I come at it from that point

0:39:44.954 --> 0:39:47.954
<v Speaker 4>of view. My brother is a very different character to me,

0:39:48.114 --> 0:39:50.554
<v Speaker 4>so I'm sure he sees it differently. Look, it might

0:39:50.634 --> 0:39:54.394
<v Speaker 4>be just a character difference, or maybe something else happened

0:39:54.514 --> 0:39:57.553
<v Speaker 4>that Katie doesn't know about, and a conversation to get

0:39:57.594 --> 0:40:01.234
<v Speaker 4>closer to understanding why there's such a disconnect in the

0:40:01.354 --> 0:40:05.074
<v Speaker 4>history that they share would be a healthy Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Aren't we in a privileged place where our listeners feel

0:40:08.634 --> 0:40:11.474
<v Speaker 2>safe to send things like this into us? And we

0:40:11.554 --> 0:40:13.314
<v Speaker 2>are the people that you can tell when you've got

0:40:13.314 --> 0:40:16.394
<v Speaker 2>no one to tell. Yes, anyway, I hope that helps Katie.

0:40:16.634 --> 0:40:19.473
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0:40:30.634 --> 0:40:30.994
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<v Speaker 2>So if you have a friend who has a shitty partner,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps like ce Lewis Hamilton, as Grace suggested, or if

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