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Speaker 1: Hello, lovely neighborhood, and welcome to our Olympic Spotlight series.

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Speaker 1: As you will know, we are back recording new episodes

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Speaker 1: after our extended ninety two business month hiatus, now that

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Speaker 1: mumlife is becoming a little bit smoother, but given that

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Speaker 1: we find ourselves in the middle of Paris twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four and it is such a special time for the

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Speaker 1: whole world. I love the Olympics so much I get

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Speaker 1: emotional every time. I thought we'd also do a little

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Speaker 2: We are so lucky to.

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Speaker 1: Have had so many incredible Olympians as past guests, who

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Speaker 1: are also competing right now over in Paris. And while

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Speaker 1: our conversations are from a while back, so please mind

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Speaker 1: the outdated time references. The essence of this show is

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Speaker 1: reflecting on people's different chapters along the way, and I

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Speaker 1: thought it would be fascinating to reflect on how far

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Speaker 1: they've all come since our last chat, some of which

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Speaker 1: were even before the last Olympics in Tokyo. As I

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Speaker 1: mentioned last episode, athletes aren't allowed to record from the

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Speaker 1: the Olympics are over, so stay tuned for those in

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Speaker 1: the meantime. I hope you are all loving watching along

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Speaker 1: and enjoy these throwback listens. Today's throwback is with the

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Speaker 1: absolutely incredible champion swimmer Emma McKeon, who is Australia's most

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Speaker 1: we recorded this before Tokyo twenty twenty, so two Olympic

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Speaker 1: campaigns ago. Thirty year old Emma has won an Australian

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Speaker 1: record of six gold medals since her Olympic debut in

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Speaker 1: December twenty nineteen. Oh my goodness, I hope you guys enjoy.

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Speaker 1: I actually recorded this one in a car. I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: along the way. Emma, thank you so so much for joining.

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Speaker 1: It's so lovely to chat to you. I know you're

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Speaker 3: I probably say that I'm like really close to my family,

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Speaker 1: It must feel so nice to be going into an Olympics,

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Speaker 3: Burnat's definitely played out in my swimming careers so far

440
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 3: at different stages because you can't it's hard to stay motivated,

441
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 3: and that switched on for such a long period of time,

442
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: and I now work with a psychologist, which is definitely

443
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 3: helping me through different things and like setting goals and

444
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 3: because you can be quite critical of yourself as well. Absolutely, yeah,

445
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 3: And so like they've helped me to ask for each

446
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 3: session even just writing down something that I did well,

447
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 3: or just even something throughout the day that I'm proud

448
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 3: of myself for doing.

449
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: Oh, that's amazing.

450
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 3: It helps a lot with like that self criticism part

451
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 3: of it.

452
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been seeing a psychologist weekly for maybe four

453
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 1: or five years, and just I can't imagine now sorting

454
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: out my head without it, Like when you expect yourself

455
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 1: to operate at a particular level without you know, criticizing

456
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: yourself all the time. It's just it helps so much

457
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 1: when you're trying to when you expect as much as

458
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: you do of yourself.

459
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: It's so good to have.

460
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 1: Someone to help externalize all that with when you're trying

461
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: to you know, really calling on yourself all the time

462
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 1: to perform.

463
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it helps me so much. Like I don't

464
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 3: know why I hadn't done it earlier, to be honest, I.

465
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: Also can't remember me that could survive without it. I'm like,

466
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: oh gosh, And do you get much time for rest?

467
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: How do you rest your not just your body, but

468
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: also your mind in between, Like are you training every

469
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: day or do you take days off? Do you take

470
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: stretches of time to rest.

471
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 3: I try mine through the Saturday and so our last

472
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 3: session of the week is Saturday morning, which is usually

473
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 3: one of the hardest sessions of the week, and so

474
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 3: finishing that one feels so nice. And then because I

475
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: live on the Gold Coast, I can just go down

476
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 3: the beach or like, that's the way that I find

477
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 3: that I switch off the best is just yeah, go

478
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 3: down the beach. It kind of feels like a little holiday.

479
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 3: And then we start back up Monday morning, and then

480
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: during the day doing uniwork definitely is a good way

481
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: for me to like rest my mind. It kind of

482
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 3: takes that. Otherwise I'm just like thinking about swimming or

483
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 3: something like that. And then yeah, just doing little things

484
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: that I enjoy is my way that I rest.

485
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: Have you found that being you know, successful, then brings

486
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: you into the public eye and with social media and

487
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: the digital world, has that been a factor for you,

488
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: like people recognizing you or you feeling the need to

489
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: be connected all the time. And I think a lot

490
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: of people who do become successful that comes with it,

491
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: and then they kind of get really overwhelmed it putting

492
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: their phone down and not being connected it all the time.

493
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I definitely don't feel a pressure to

494
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: be connected. I kind of like to more show my

495
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 3: personal side, like the things that I like doing on

496
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: the weekends or things like that in amongst my training,

497
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 3: and then I guess like I'm not recognized a lot

498
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 3: or I don't really notice. I kind of like it

499
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 3: when kids will come up to me and ask for

500
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: a photo or something like that, because I remember being

501
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: young looking up to people, and so I kind of

502
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 3: I really like it when they come up to me

503
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: and want a chat or something like that, because yeah,

504
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: I remember being that young and looking up to people

505
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 3: and wishing that I could go and talk to them

506
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: or find out a bit about them, and so I

507
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: want to be able to give that to the young

508
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: ones coming through, even the ones that aren't swimmers, they

509
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 3: just like something about what I'm doing. I kind of

510
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: want to be a role model in that area.

511
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: Oh, that's amazing.

512
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: Is that something that you would think about going too

513
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: later down the track, Like do you think further ahead

514
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: than the next Olympics. Like, that's something that also interests

515
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: me is how far ahead people have their heads. And

516
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: because you guys have such like defined four year pinnacles

517
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: in the future like down the track. Would you think

518
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: about coaching, would you do what your dad did, or

519
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: like be around the younger generation of swimmers.

520
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: I don't think that I would be a coach. I

521
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 3: don't think that would suit me very much. And I think, like,

522
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: once I finished swimming, I'm going to be not getting

523
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 3: up super early, but I would like to be around

524
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 3: young swimmers that are coming through, especially young girls, because

525
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 3: obviously different experiences that I had might have might help

526
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: the ones coming through in any way. Because I think

527
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: like when I look back when I was young, like

528
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: I would have loved to have had someone that was

529
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 3: there that I could literally ask anything to. And I

530
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: think I was also quite shy when I was young

531
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: as well, so I don't think I would have asked.

532
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: But I want to hopefully be someone that people can

533
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: come to and literally be comfortable to ask anything. Different

534
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: experiences what I have had, like I could have had

535
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: them maybe so that I could have helped someone in

536
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 3: the future. Yeah, for that reason.

537
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just before we move to the next section.

538
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: What in those moments where I mean training six days

539
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: a week is just an enormous amount of motivation would

540
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: be needed, I can imagine. And if anyone's known a swimmer, they.

541
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: Are up like pre four pre five.

542
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: Am every day of their life, pretty much like one

543
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: of my friends has been doing that since she.

544
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: Was like five.

545
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: It's a very early start every day. I'd actually forgotten

546
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: about this. But how do you stay motivated? What motivates you?

547
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: Is it challenging yourself to a new time. Is it

548
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: how you feel when you get in the pool. Is

549
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: it the impact that you can have with your swimming. Like,

550
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone's motivated from a different place. But for you,

551
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: when it's hard for you to get up in the morning,

552
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: what gets you out of bed?

553
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: Well, firstly, I think getting enough sleep is a big

554
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 3: thing for me because if I wake up tired, I'm

555
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: not going to be motivated. So I always make sure

556
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 3: that I'm getting at least eight hours open eye. I

557
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: think my goals are the main thing that motivate me,

558
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: and then setting small goals in around those, because those

559
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: big goals can kind of become overwhelming as well, Like

560
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: if I'm always thinking about the Olympics or wanting to

561
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 3: be on the podium, so I'm always picturing that every

562
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: single sessions. It can get really overwhelming and also stressful.

563
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: So I set like little small focus points for each session,

564
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 3: whether it's like something to fix with my technique or

565
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 3: something with my turnes or something like that, and then

566
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 3: after the session, like I've said before, like I just

567
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: I write down what I did well in that session

568
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: or what I'm bad of or something like that. And

569
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: that's helped me a lot with my motivation, because yeah,

570
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 3: it just makes you not so overwhelmed, and like, I

571
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: know what my goals are and I know I always

572
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: can see them, but it just makes it a little

573
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: bit easier to, I guess, manage mentally.

574
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a good point.

575
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: I talk about that often, the fact that I think

576
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: people get paralyzed by having goals that are too big,

577
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: because you know, there's this whole dialogue about like if

578
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: your dreams aren't big enough, if they don't ski, they're

579
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: not big enough, and you know, dream big all the time,

580
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: which is amazing. You've got to have the big, impossible dreams,

581
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: but if you don't have the smaller ones to get

582
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: there to even get started, and if it feels too impossible,

583
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 1: like no one starts because they're just so scared. So

584
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: I think the small achievable goals as important, if not more.

585
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: And it's so interesting that you set those for yourself,

586
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: like at an Olympic level that still applies, that you've

587
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 1: got that in your mind, but you have to in

588
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: between every four years, you've got to have something that

589
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: makes you happy in between.

590
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. Yeah. The happiness part is so big too,

591
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: because like my both my parents have even said because

592
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 3: they both swam, they actually swam with my coach back

593
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: when they all swam.

594
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: I think it's so cute.

595
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but my dad actually said to my coach like,

596
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: if she's not happy, she won't swim. Well wow, Yeah,

597
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: that's such an important part of what I do as well,

598
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 3: is making sure I'm happy and there's kind of more

599
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: purpose to what I'm doing rather than just trying to

600
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 3: hit a time all the time, which is really nice.

601
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: That is the perfect segue into the last section, which

602
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: is called Playta, which is exactly all about that, the

603
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: fact that if you're not happy in what you're doing,

604
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: like there's no amount of success or money or metrics

605
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: or hitting goals. That is worth anything if you're not

606
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: enjoying it. And I think people get too distracted by

607
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: one and forget the other, and then they're like, oh,

608
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm just still I don't feel any different.

609
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: I've got all these things, I've hit all these goals,

610
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: and I'm not joyful because they forget to play, they

611
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: forget being a child, and they forget to even ask

612
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: if they're happy.

613
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: Like I was a corporate lawyer for a few years.

614
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: And I was like kicking all the goals I'd had

615
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: since I was a kid, but I wasn't really asking

616
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: whether I enjoyed it. And I think it's weird that

617
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't enjoy a lot of the

618
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: things we do because we just do them because we should.

619
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: So I'd love that happiness is such a big part

620
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: of your performance, Like it actually changes whether or you're

621
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: going to swim well. But it's also just important for life.

622
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: So when you're not swimming, what makes you happy, Like

623
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: what do you do for joy or to just play?

624
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you do that's just a hobby

625
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: or just for fun, like in your spare time or downtime, I.

626
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: Love reading novels or like biography, which I find really interesting.

627
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: And then I love going to the beach, which you

628
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: think I would want to get back in the water together. Yeah,

629
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: I do love just being in the salt water. I

630
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 3: find that makes you happy. And just being around my friends.

631
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: Really friends and family I know love and support me,

632
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 3: and I love and support them. So that kind of

633
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: relationship just kind of fills you up a bit.

634
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: Totally.

635
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: I think people fill your cup up so much. Like

636
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: one of my favorite quotes is the other summ of

637
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: the five people you spend the most time with, and

638
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: if you have a goal and the five people around

639
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: you aren't on board with that, like it's just so hard.

640
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: But if you have five people who are totally with you,

641
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: you'll get then no like, no worries.

642
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: It will be so.

643
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: Easy because you know they've got your back.

644
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, totally.

645
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: Do you watch Netflix? Are you a TV person? Do

646
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts?

647
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 3: I do try and listen to podcasts when I'm driving

648
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: because I drive about twenty minutes to training there and

649
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: back twice a day. Your podcasts are good. I love

650
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: Netflix cause I'm watching I've rewatch friends all the time

651
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 3: me too, obviously, that makes me happy.

652
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: I feel like anything that transports you away from the

653
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: world that you're in, Like, as long as you're not

654
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: watching a swimming show, then it just kind of rests

655
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: your brain and then you're fresh. If you consume yourself

656
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: with anything, like, you can have too much of a

657
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: good thing and it can just like kill your creativity.

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Speaker 1: So I love that you watch TV and I love

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Speaker 1: that you watch Friends. It's like the best show in

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Speaker 1: the whole entire world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime, anytime, It's Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like even if you're watching it as background noise,

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Speaker 1: like you can kind of still do a bit of

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Speaker 1: work and it doesn't distract you too much.

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Speaker 3: And SEESSI as you watched so many seasons already, you

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Speaker 3: can just like run a bit background. You know exactly

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Speaker 3: what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So just to finish up, what are the three

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Speaker 1: interesting things about you that don't normally come up in conversations?

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Speaker 2: So this is like allergies.

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Speaker 1: Or random party tricks or all that like quirky fun stuff,

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Speaker 1: because I feel like people love to know the person

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Speaker 1: behind the name that they hear all the time, and

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Speaker 1: this is where like the most random things come out.

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Speaker 3: I can water skiing.

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Speaker 2: Ooh, there you go. That's a good one. Do you

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Speaker 2: do it often?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Not really. When I was young, I used to water

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Speaker 3: ski a lot, like you could do it all day long,

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Speaker 3: And now like if I do it once a year,

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Speaker 3: my arms are just saw for like five days and

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Speaker 3: I can do it for like five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to Steff Goldie gold from Nike, who

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Speaker 1: is love surfing, and I say that I'm a surfer,

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Speaker 1: but I surf like once a year, and same thing,

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Speaker 1: Like I get up on the board like twice and

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Speaker 1: the next day I can't lift my arms above my shoulders.

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Speaker 2: What about? What do you have a middle name? Do

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Speaker 2: you have any like weird skills?

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Speaker 3: Maybe that I'm quite quiet. I'm not shy, but I

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Speaker 3: kind of just taught like talk when I have something

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Speaker 3: to say.

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Speaker 2: That's a very good skill and also quite rare. I think.

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Speaker 3: I used to be quite like self conscious about it,

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Speaker 3: but now I really liked it that I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like that, Yeah, I'd love it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's better to say less than you need

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Speaker 1: to than to say too much you don't need to say.

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Speaker 1: I'm like such a verbose person, but most of it

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Speaker 1: is just rubbish and I would love to.

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Speaker 2: Be as like economical as you.

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Speaker 1: Very last question, since I love quote so much, what

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Speaker 1: is your favorite motivational quote?

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Speaker 3: Well, I have. I kind of remember different ones at

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Speaker 3: different points, like during training or during life. During training,

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Speaker 3: I like the one that says pain is temporary and

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Speaker 3: glorious forever, like when you, like in the middle of

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Speaker 3: a mainset and your body is just really hurting, I can't. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's a good one to remember that this pain is

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Speaker 3: only going to last as long as the step, and

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Speaker 3: then it's just going to help me in my goals

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Speaker 3: that I want to achieve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, Emma for joining and sharing

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Speaker 1: your wisdom. I'm so excited for you for twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: We will be following you along in Tokyo. I hope

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Speaker 1: all the rest of your preparation goes amazingly and maybe

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Speaker 1: see you on the running.

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Speaker 2: Track in our joy rides.

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Speaker 3: I'll be.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, lovely, thanks

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Speaker 3: So much for having me