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Speaker 1: So you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy. I'm obsessed and I don't even

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Speaker 1: feel jailty a body.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for

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Speaker 2: your Face. I'm Lucy Newell.

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Speaker 1: And I'm Key Resales and we are back for another

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Speaker 1: episode of Beauty Besties.

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Speaker 2: It's time to talk about all things beauty, including the

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Speaker 2: latest trends, products, and deep dives we can't stop thinking about.

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Speaker 1: We're up on the show. It's a pretty big announcement.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely gonna throw a little spanner in the works

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Speaker 1: for my personal beauty routine. But first, Lucy has been

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Speaker 1: on a journey. I sent journey to the exact. We're

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Speaker 1: debriefing about the importance of having a signature.

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Speaker 2: Sent Well, is it important? That's my question?

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Speaker 1: Oh bom, Now look that we're all Bessie Leslie friends. Yes, friends,

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Speaker 1: best to stick together.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about fragrance, specifically scent wardrobe. So

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Speaker 2: I actually changed my mind while prepping for this episode

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Speaker 2: because I realized that I don't have a signature scent

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Speaker 2: I've never had a signature scent, and I quite like

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Speaker 2: switching up my fragrance depending on my mood. We kind

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Speaker 2: of spoke about this last week with Charlotte tell Re Fragrances,

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Speaker 2: So you know how people to like loyal to one

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Speaker 2: It's never been me, are you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty loyal. I'm pretty I think since becoming

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Speaker 1: a beauty creator, I've become more diverse in the sense

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Speaker 1: that I wear. Pre New York was javont s du Dimont.

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Speaker 1: It's masculine, floral is my scent, you know, That's just

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Speaker 1: what I do. And then when I lived in New York,

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Speaker 1: I worked for Diptick. Yeah, you've spoiled, so we could

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Speaker 1: just take whatever fragrances we wanted and I loved do

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Speaker 1: so On, which is like the kind of masculinity scent

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Speaker 1: that they have, And then O Duelle launched while I

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Speaker 1: then when I got back and all of those ran out,

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Speaker 1: I was like, fragrance is really expensive. But when I

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Speaker 1: stop wearing fragrance because your fragrance can transfer onto the baby.

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Speaker 1: So for like two years almost I haven't worn fragrance,

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Speaker 1: and I've only just started wearing fragrance.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be hard for me. I think fragrance is

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Speaker 2: fun and kind of one of my favorite chapters parts

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Speaker 2: of beauty. And it's also well known and widely research

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Speaker 2: now that fragrance can affect our mood. And I've noticed

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Speaker 2: a shift in recent years towards functional fragrances that contain

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Speaker 2: like specific combinations of sense as to spark some kind

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Speaker 2: of physiological reaction. I'm not a scientist, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: And before I went on holiday to Greece with my sister,

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Speaker 2: I bought Bubble Bath by Mason Margiela replica and it

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Speaker 2: It smells like smells like soap, but I like it.

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Speaker 2: My mum was, oh, that's powderie, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: that's a holiday scent now. Like When I wear it,

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Speaker 1: Oh definitely.

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Speaker 2: So I know lots of people do this for their wedding.

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Speaker 2: They go and choose a wedding scent so that whenever

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Speaker 1: Yes, I actually found my wedding scent, but it was

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Speaker 1: So I'm actually going to buy it for my Europe trip. Beautiful,

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Speaker 2: On your wedding day, what did you wear?

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Speaker 1: Well, this was funny because I was obviously devastated bout

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Speaker 1: the diputique one. I was like, but we had just

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Speaker 2: Well, I went to a fragrance workshop with Sephora.

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Speaker 2: It was so interesting because we were smelling individual notes

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about the idea of a fragrance wardrobe

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Speaker 2: as opposed to a signature scent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so a few perfumes that you interchange depending on

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Speaker 2: I'm like, it just smells nice, and so that's a

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Speaker 2: Robe Hair Care. There is something magic about this fragrance. John,

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be overlave floral, but it still

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Speaker 2: announcement in the beauty studio today.

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Speaker 1: I do. I am actually pregnant. She's with child. I

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling much better now. The first nine weeks were

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Speaker 1: what was making me really sad is a few products,

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Speaker 1: which is that I immediately had to make as soon

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Speaker 2: Well, a lot of people don't know this, including me,

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Speaker 2: so you basically have to stop using retinal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is a big one. Devastation. Yeah, yeah, really sad.

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Speaker 1: And that's like the thing for me that changed my

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Speaker 1: Well, I feel a little bit like what's opposite to glowy? Dull? Dull?

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Speaker 1: I feel dull, for sure, but I realized something and

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Speaker 1: But I'm finding that my daily moisturizer with Vitamin C

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Speaker 1: Vitamin C Seramid moisturizer, which is fantastic. I'm avoiding overdoing it,

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Speaker 1: and under eye puffiness. The method that I use I

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Speaker 1: thought would be really interesting just to talk about. So

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Speaker 1: the center of your brows and work towards the temple

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Speaker 1: On the top of your forehead and then just above

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Speaker 1: Also, in freakishly good timing, Aeron actually sat down with

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Speaker 1: the best product when I should have saved my money.

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Speaker 1: Budgets all right, it's bougie and budget recommendation time you lose,

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Speaker 2: month or so ago. We talked about skin tints and

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Speaker 2: I wanted to find an affordable reco for our ubiers.

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Speaker 2: And we also did an episode where we got to

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Speaker 2: and I was like, I really want to try this

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Speaker 1: It's really good, good shape range. Yeah, yeah, we love.

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Speaker 2: There are twenty shades of this skin tin. It's thirty

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Speaker 2: So on their website it says no makeup makeup days,

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Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Yeah, that's really good.

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Speaker 2: So it's got nice cinnamae and squaling in it. It

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Speaker 1: Are you wearing it today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Gorgeous. You know I'm actually going to get this because

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Speaker 1: I am really struggling with my foundation at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes the skintins am like case it's going to settle

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really impressed by it.

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Speaker 1: Love that. You'll notice when I was talking about dry

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Speaker 1: bristles were much softer than other brushes, and they were

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Speaker 1: an oval shape, it's black, It's got a little strap

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Speaker 1: but soft girl, I think it's fine, Like, I think

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Speaker 1: bottom of your back the middle. Who cares about the middle? Who? So? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Loving that one? And twenty three bucks? Pretty good? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's great, Pretty good. Well that's all we've got time

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Speaker 1: for today. UB's I hope you enjoyed that news that

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Speaker 1: I've just shared with you all. E can't wait to

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Speaker 1: take you through the beauty highs and the beauty lows

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Speaker 1: You Beauty is produced by Cassie Merritt with audio production

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Speaker 1: by Lou Hill.

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