1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:12,834 Speaker 1: You're listening to I'm Mom with mea podcast. 2 00:00:15,434 --> 00:00:16,954 Speaker 2: Makeup is My therapy. 3 00:00:18,154 --> 00:00:20,994 Speaker 3: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel guilty of body. 4 00:00:24,834 --> 00:00:28,034 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Your Beauty, the podcast for Your Face. 5 00:00:28,394 --> 00:00:31,154 Speaker 1: I am Lee Campbell. I am Kelly McCarran. Let's see 6 00:00:31,154 --> 00:00:33,353 Speaker 1: what's happening in the beauty world with the Beauty Edit. 7 00:00:34,114 --> 00:00:36,674 Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to the Beauty Edit. I'm Cass Green 8 00:00:37,114 --> 00:00:39,513 Speaker 3: and I'm Molly Harwood. And there is quite a bit 9 00:00:39,513 --> 00:00:41,153 Speaker 3: of news that we need to get through today, so 10 00:00:41,314 --> 00:00:42,993 Speaker 3: I think we should jump straight in. Let's do it. 11 00:00:43,354 --> 00:00:46,034 Speaker 3: So the first thing is all the tea about Mecca 12 00:00:46,034 --> 00:00:48,714 Speaker 3: and our Glass. I'm assuming that you've seen this everywhere. Yeah, 13 00:00:48,793 --> 00:00:51,633 Speaker 3: well it's Sephora and hour Glass though, right, Yeah, well 14 00:00:51,634 --> 00:00:54,554 Speaker 3: it is now. Yeah, So for those who don't know, 15 00:00:54,914 --> 00:00:58,554 Speaker 3: our Glass is officially leaving Mecca after sixteen years of exclusivity. 16 00:00:58,594 --> 00:01:00,353 Speaker 3: And this is one of those beauty breakups that I 17 00:01:00,354 --> 00:01:02,714 Speaker 3: think is pretty historical when we talk about the grand 18 00:01:02,754 --> 00:01:05,634 Speaker 3: scheme of things. So from late February, hour Glass are 19 00:01:05,674 --> 00:01:08,074 Speaker 3: going to be in Sephora Australia, but they are also 20 00:01:08,234 --> 00:01:10,114 Speaker 3: going to be shipping direct to consumers, which is a 21 00:01:10,154 --> 00:01:13,274 Speaker 3: real break from the exclusivity deals that we've seen previously. 22 00:01:13,514 --> 00:01:16,114 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, and I think what we're seeing is 23 00:01:16,154 --> 00:01:19,474 Speaker 4: an increase in this direct to consumer which you sometimes 24 00:01:19,514 --> 00:01:23,634 Speaker 4: see as an acronym DTC. So what this means is 25 00:01:23,714 --> 00:01:27,594 Speaker 4: a brand ultimately gets to hold the power where previously, 26 00:01:28,354 --> 00:01:30,794 Speaker 4: really before the rise of the rise and kind of 27 00:01:30,834 --> 00:01:35,434 Speaker 4: takeover of social media, brands were really reliant on big 28 00:01:36,074 --> 00:01:39,914 Speaker 4: stores like Mecca, like Sephora, like David Jones, Maya or 29 00:01:39,914 --> 00:01:43,953 Speaker 4: you know all those big department stores, and those big 30 00:01:43,994 --> 00:01:47,434 Speaker 4: stores held the power because that brand needed to be 31 00:01:47,674 --> 00:01:51,234 Speaker 4: in store for the consumer to buy it or to 32 00:01:51,474 --> 00:01:55,194 Speaker 4: have the visibility to the customer because they didn't have 33 00:01:55,834 --> 00:01:58,434 Speaker 4: you know, yes you had websites, but you didn't have 34 00:01:58,554 --> 00:02:01,074 Speaker 4: the reach that you can get with social media now. 35 00:02:01,394 --> 00:02:04,794 Speaker 4: So brands now have the ability to get their products 36 00:02:04,834 --> 00:02:09,553 Speaker 4: out there using influencers and just their own content creators internally, 37 00:02:10,194 --> 00:02:14,394 Speaker 4: and therefore they can market their own products exactly the 38 00:02:14,394 --> 00:02:18,114 Speaker 4: way they want really be on their own brand, instead 39 00:02:18,114 --> 00:02:21,474 Speaker 4: of having to align to the brand of Mecca or Sephora. 40 00:02:22,274 --> 00:02:25,794 Speaker 4: And they also get to respond then to what the 41 00:02:25,794 --> 00:02:28,834 Speaker 4: consumer is saying on social media. So therefore they can 42 00:02:28,874 --> 00:02:32,274 Speaker 4: come out with new products and extend lines. They can 43 00:02:32,354 --> 00:02:35,474 Speaker 4: stop running certain products because they're no longer working for them, 44 00:02:35,514 --> 00:02:36,394 Speaker 4: whatever it may be. 45 00:02:36,754 --> 00:02:37,714 Speaker 3: So we're seeing a. 46 00:02:37,674 --> 00:02:42,794 Speaker 4: Real increase of this because really ultimately because of social media. 47 00:02:42,594 --> 00:02:45,353 Speaker 3: You're so right, like the landsape has completely changed, and 48 00:02:45,434 --> 00:02:47,913 Speaker 3: I think that from that we're seeing brands that want 49 00:02:47,914 --> 00:02:49,954 Speaker 3: to be a lot more agile exactly what you're saying, 50 00:02:49,994 --> 00:02:53,154 Speaker 3: So pricing, launch, timing, product exclusive, these are the things 51 00:02:53,154 --> 00:02:55,074 Speaker 3: that they can control when it's all kind of within 52 00:02:55,074 --> 00:02:58,114 Speaker 3: their little wheelhouse. But I do think it's interesting. I mean, 53 00:02:58,594 --> 00:03:00,793 Speaker 3: exclusivity has been a thing in the baitty industry for 54 00:03:00,834 --> 00:03:03,394 Speaker 3: such a long time, so this is quite like a 55 00:03:03,394 --> 00:03:04,234 Speaker 3: poignant change. 56 00:03:04,274 --> 00:03:04,674 Speaker 4: It is. 57 00:03:04,834 --> 00:03:05,914 Speaker 3: It's a real shakeup. 58 00:03:06,314 --> 00:03:09,074 Speaker 4: I think one thing though, is it is good for 59 00:03:09,194 --> 00:03:11,074 Speaker 4: us that we are going to be able to go 60 00:03:11,234 --> 00:03:14,714 Speaker 4: in store still and try those products, because as we 61 00:03:14,754 --> 00:03:17,714 Speaker 4: all know, with beauty, it is all wonderful if you've 62 00:03:17,714 --> 00:03:22,154 Speaker 4: got great packaging, great branding, excellent influences or content creators 63 00:03:22,194 --> 00:03:27,194 Speaker 4: internally making beautiful content showing their product. That's one thing, 64 00:03:27,434 --> 00:03:31,274 Speaker 4: of course, but the biggest thing is does the product work? 65 00:03:31,354 --> 00:03:32,234 Speaker 3: How does it feel? 66 00:03:32,754 --> 00:03:35,554 Speaker 4: It is important to have that touch point for a brand, 67 00:03:35,674 --> 00:03:37,714 Speaker 4: So this is you know, good for them. 68 00:03:37,794 --> 00:03:40,074 Speaker 3: They're in Sephora now one hundred percent, and I think 69 00:03:40,074 --> 00:03:42,234 Speaker 3: that's like a really big part of this discussion is 70 00:03:42,274 --> 00:03:44,634 Speaker 3: everyone saying it's a loss for Mecca or it's a 71 00:03:44,674 --> 00:03:46,554 Speaker 3: win for Sephora. But I really think that this is 72 00:03:46,594 --> 00:03:49,314 Speaker 3: a win for consumers. I mean, Sephora runs a lot 73 00:03:49,354 --> 00:03:51,754 Speaker 3: of sales. It's a win for the Hourglass fans at home. 74 00:03:52,314 --> 00:03:54,674 Speaker 3: It also means that they can buy directly from our glass. 75 00:03:54,754 --> 00:03:57,074 Speaker 3: I'm sure there'll be deals like Charlotte Tilbury does that. 76 00:03:57,794 --> 00:04:01,634 Speaker 3: And I also just think that having the instore capability, 77 00:04:01,674 --> 00:04:06,514 Speaker 3: the online capability, the stock that they're obviously investing in Australia, 78 00:04:06,674 --> 00:04:08,954 Speaker 3: it's just a good thing for consumers and people who 79 00:04:08,954 --> 00:04:10,994 Speaker 3: love hour Glass, which you know, Molly and I we 80 00:04:11,114 --> 00:04:11,474 Speaker 3: really do. 81 00:04:11,794 --> 00:04:14,514 Speaker 4: Yes, we all know that Mecca is losing our Glass, 82 00:04:14,514 --> 00:04:18,074 Speaker 4: but they are gaining road, which is massive. I mean, yeah, 83 00:04:18,113 --> 00:04:20,594 Speaker 4: like they got Victoria Beckham a few months ago, They've 84 00:04:20,634 --> 00:04:24,194 Speaker 4: got Road in feb So it just like, yes, at 85 00:04:24,234 --> 00:04:28,354 Speaker 4: brand is exiting and Sephora gains our Glass, which is 86 00:04:28,393 --> 00:04:31,634 Speaker 4: a win for them. So from a Sephorah versus Mecha 87 00:04:31,633 --> 00:04:35,993 Speaker 4: brand point, yes, that's a big Win first Sephora, but 88 00:04:36,113 --> 00:04:37,674 Speaker 4: also Meccha has Road, so it's. 89 00:04:37,513 --> 00:04:39,393 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, they have so much in the pipeline. There's 90 00:04:39,393 --> 00:04:41,474 Speaker 3: so much going on. I don't think our beauty behemoths 91 00:04:41,553 --> 00:04:44,753 Speaker 3: are doing it tough, but I do think it's interesting, 92 00:04:44,794 --> 00:04:46,834 Speaker 3: even the fact that you know Road being into for 93 00:04:47,073 --> 00:04:49,553 Speaker 3: in the US and also being DTC in the US 94 00:04:50,034 --> 00:04:52,954 Speaker 3: and then in Mecca. Here it's that's exclusive to Australia, 95 00:04:52,993 --> 00:04:56,313 Speaker 3: but it's not really exclusive no worldwide. You know, people 96 00:04:56,313 --> 00:04:59,034 Speaker 3: from other places can buy it from different places. So look, 97 00:04:59,073 --> 00:05:02,434 Speaker 3: the landscape is changing and there's there's just a lot 98 00:05:02,474 --> 00:05:02,834 Speaker 3: going on. 99 00:05:03,073 --> 00:05:06,273 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's exciting, Okay, cash, So the next thing I 100 00:05:06,274 --> 00:05:10,153 Speaker 4: want to talk about is lymphatic drainage. Now I don't 101 00:05:10,154 --> 00:05:12,634 Speaker 4: know about you, and maybe this is telling of my 102 00:05:12,753 --> 00:05:17,474 Speaker 4: mid forties age, but lymphatic drainage is literally all over 103 00:05:17,553 --> 00:05:20,433 Speaker 4: my feed. And when I say that, I mean it's 104 00:05:20,433 --> 00:05:22,633 Speaker 4: not just washer which we'll get into in a sec. 105 00:05:23,113 --> 00:05:27,274 Speaker 4: I'm talking about people standing on those vibration pads and 106 00:05:27,313 --> 00:05:29,313 Speaker 4: saying that that's the first thing they do every day 107 00:05:29,313 --> 00:05:33,073 Speaker 4: with their led mask on and sipping a iced coffee 108 00:05:33,154 --> 00:05:36,274 Speaker 4: or something. I'm like, it's getting a bit mad. And 109 00:05:36,313 --> 00:05:39,193 Speaker 4: the face brushes that are kind of like grooveed to 110 00:05:39,313 --> 00:05:39,913 Speaker 4: your cheeks. 111 00:05:40,433 --> 00:05:41,674 Speaker 1: Are you saying this everywhere? 112 00:05:41,794 --> 00:05:44,354 Speaker 3: Look, I am seeing everywhere. I'm not gonna lie. I 113 00:05:44,433 --> 00:05:48,074 Speaker 3: really want a vibration plate. I've had so many people say, oh, 114 00:05:48,113 --> 00:05:51,033 Speaker 3: they don't work unless you're doing like actual exercises on them. 115 00:05:51,474 --> 00:05:53,674 Speaker 3: But I am very curious. And it also reminds me 116 00:05:53,714 --> 00:05:56,113 Speaker 3: of when we had the Lovely Trainy in the studio 117 00:05:56,313 --> 00:05:58,514 Speaker 3: and she was talking about her jumping, which is also 118 00:05:58,873 --> 00:06:01,594 Speaker 3: a lymphatic drainage trend on TikTok exactly. 119 00:06:01,993 --> 00:06:06,314 Speaker 4: So we actually had an incredible lymphatic drainage massage kind 120 00:06:06,313 --> 00:06:10,794 Speaker 4: of expert she Brazilian lymphatic massage, which is slightly different. 121 00:06:10,873 --> 00:06:12,674 Speaker 4: I think it's just more that it's more intense, to 122 00:06:12,674 --> 00:06:15,393 Speaker 4: be honest, stronger massage. So we're gonna link that in 123 00:06:15,393 --> 00:06:17,633 Speaker 4: the show notes. Actually, it's a great episode. She really 124 00:06:17,714 --> 00:06:21,154 Speaker 4: explains what the lymphatic system is and what it does. 125 00:06:21,274 --> 00:06:24,473 Speaker 4: So look, I'm not a doctor, and I'm probably not 126 00:06:24,714 --> 00:06:27,553 Speaker 4: going to get this quite right, but from my basic 127 00:06:27,714 --> 00:06:30,753 Speaker 4: understanding of what the lymphatic system is and what it does, 128 00:06:31,474 --> 00:06:35,113 Speaker 4: we have the circulatory system, which is your filtration system 129 00:06:35,154 --> 00:06:39,234 Speaker 4: for your blood. Then the lymphatic system is kind of 130 00:06:40,193 --> 00:06:43,313 Speaker 4: like that, but not so. It's vessels that carry fluid, 131 00:06:43,433 --> 00:06:48,514 Speaker 4: which carries the excess toxins that have been removed from 132 00:06:48,553 --> 00:06:51,433 Speaker 4: your blood and that are in our bodies from pollution, 133 00:06:52,234 --> 00:06:55,713 Speaker 4: the stuff that's in our skin care fragrances and any 134 00:06:55,794 --> 00:06:59,234 Speaker 4: kind of pollutants like that from what we consume, and 135 00:06:59,274 --> 00:07:02,514 Speaker 4: that's then carried around our bodies to our lymph nodes 136 00:07:02,633 --> 00:07:05,514 Speaker 4: which clear it out. But then we also have our 137 00:07:05,553 --> 00:07:07,873 Speaker 4: liver and our kidneys that are doing filtering. 138 00:07:07,914 --> 00:07:09,954 Speaker 3: There's a lot of filtering things going on. 139 00:07:10,194 --> 00:07:12,434 Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's just say there are a lot of 140 00:07:12,434 --> 00:07:14,153 Speaker 4: people talking about it right now. Like I did a 141 00:07:14,194 --> 00:07:16,834 Speaker 4: quick search and even Huberman has done an hour and 142 00:07:16,874 --> 00:07:20,554 Speaker 4: a half podcast about the lymphatic system and lymphatic drainage. 143 00:07:20,554 --> 00:07:21,754 Speaker 3: It's a big things. 144 00:07:22,634 --> 00:07:28,154 Speaker 4: The thing is doing these kind of practices like lymphatic drainage, 145 00:07:28,434 --> 00:07:34,114 Speaker 4: dry brushing, gasha. They're all in the same vein of treatment. 146 00:07:34,274 --> 00:07:37,234 Speaker 4: I guess, all looking for a similar outcome. 147 00:07:37,354 --> 00:07:38,634 Speaker 3: But it's not new, guys. 148 00:07:39,114 --> 00:07:43,594 Speaker 4: This has been happening forever, like since the ancient world. 149 00:07:43,754 --> 00:07:47,274 Speaker 4: Like I'm talking Cleopatra was doing dry brushing, like I'm 150 00:07:47,314 --> 00:07:47,834 Speaker 4: not kidding. 151 00:07:48,594 --> 00:07:50,874 Speaker 3: Cleopatra, did you have a vibration play, That's what I 152 00:07:50,874 --> 00:07:51,234 Speaker 3: want to know. 153 00:07:51,554 --> 00:07:53,474 Speaker 4: I don't think so, but she probably did a few 154 00:07:53,474 --> 00:07:56,074 Speaker 4: star jumps every morning, you know, and that was good 155 00:07:56,074 --> 00:07:58,754 Speaker 4: for her. So I think at the end of the day, 156 00:07:59,354 --> 00:08:02,874 Speaker 4: like everything, these kind of things come and go as trends, 157 00:08:02,953 --> 00:08:07,074 Speaker 4: but they're not anything new. What's happening though, is, again 158 00:08:07,554 --> 00:08:10,474 Speaker 4: thanks to the rise of social media and especially our 159 00:08:10,474 --> 00:08:14,194 Speaker 4: good friend TikTok, we're just seeing all these people with 160 00:08:14,274 --> 00:08:15,994 Speaker 4: these vibration plates and we suddenly think, oh my god, 161 00:08:16,034 --> 00:08:19,473 Speaker 4: I'm missing out on something. Is something new, But actually 162 00:08:19,514 --> 00:08:22,234 Speaker 4: it's it's not. Really, that's not it not. 163 00:08:22,354 --> 00:08:24,874 Speaker 3: And I think the really interesting part about the lymphatic 164 00:08:24,874 --> 00:08:27,234 Speaker 3: system is that there's no like pump on its own. 165 00:08:27,234 --> 00:08:29,274 Speaker 3: So with the circular story system, your heart does all 166 00:08:29,314 --> 00:08:31,593 Speaker 3: the work in terms of moving things around your body. 167 00:08:31,594 --> 00:08:34,994 Speaker 3: But the lymphatic system, the fluid, you can't clear it 168 00:08:35,074 --> 00:08:37,434 Speaker 3: or move it unless you're moving your body. You're moving 169 00:08:37,434 --> 00:08:39,354 Speaker 3: your muscles and then it moves in time with that. 170 00:08:39,394 --> 00:08:41,874 Speaker 3: And that whole point of using all these tools and 171 00:08:41,914 --> 00:08:45,154 Speaker 3: the plates is to basically pump that filled brown quicker 172 00:08:45,314 --> 00:08:48,154 Speaker 3: and help it move and sort of support with swelling 173 00:08:48,234 --> 00:08:50,554 Speaker 3: and puffiness and the beauty weld that's sort of the 174 00:08:50,594 --> 00:08:51,994 Speaker 3: main function for your face, and. 175 00:08:52,034 --> 00:08:54,234 Speaker 4: That's yeah, that's why we're talking about in the beauty 176 00:08:54,234 --> 00:08:56,594 Speaker 4: at it. Let's be clear because one of the side 177 00:08:56,594 --> 00:09:00,754 Speaker 4: effects I guess, of not moving that lymphatic fluid is 178 00:09:00,834 --> 00:09:03,834 Speaker 4: that puffiness that we see in our bodies, but especially 179 00:09:03,834 --> 00:09:07,434 Speaker 4: in our face. And so this kind of treatment and 180 00:09:07,474 --> 00:09:10,434 Speaker 4: that people are using the brushes and you know, the 181 00:09:10,514 --> 00:09:12,194 Speaker 4: rise of the really came. 182 00:09:12,034 --> 00:09:13,154 Speaker 3: From for me. 183 00:09:13,274 --> 00:09:16,674 Speaker 4: I remember COVID when we were all suddenly looking at 184 00:09:16,674 --> 00:09:19,754 Speaker 4: our faces on zoom calls, all fifty step skin. 185 00:09:19,634 --> 00:09:21,874 Speaker 3: Care routine in our spare time, of which we had 186 00:09:21,914 --> 00:09:23,914 Speaker 3: so much, so much we did. 187 00:09:23,954 --> 00:09:27,154 Speaker 4: We were so bored, and so we all suddenly started 188 00:09:27,474 --> 00:09:30,474 Speaker 4: sharing our faces and going, oh, I look good. I mean, 189 00:09:30,514 --> 00:09:32,994 Speaker 4: I don't know about you, but that practice has definitely 190 00:09:33,074 --> 00:09:35,514 Speaker 4: dropped off for me in that time. We've also heard 191 00:09:35,634 --> 00:09:38,874 Speaker 4: celebrities talking about how much they love lymphatic drainage. We've 192 00:09:38,914 --> 00:09:43,274 Speaker 4: got Kimmy Kay, Paris Hilton, Hayley Bieber, Kendall Jenner, Kylie jennr, 193 00:09:43,354 --> 00:09:47,554 Speaker 4: Jennifer Aniston, so many more, Naomi Campbell, they all swear 194 00:09:47,634 --> 00:09:50,834 Speaker 4: by lymphatic drainage and lymphatic massage, and they use it 195 00:09:50,874 --> 00:09:53,314 Speaker 4: a lot prior to red carpets and things like that 196 00:09:53,354 --> 00:09:55,834 Speaker 4: to get that really chiseled look. And the fact that 197 00:09:56,234 --> 00:09:58,714 Speaker 4: because of all the tools we're seeing and that people 198 00:09:58,794 --> 00:10:01,674 Speaker 4: are talking about, we can do it at home sort of. 199 00:10:01,994 --> 00:10:04,354 Speaker 3: Sort of, so are caveats there, right, So this is 200 00:10:04,354 --> 00:10:06,914 Speaker 3: the thing obviously can go in for a lymphatic massage 201 00:10:07,274 --> 00:10:09,674 Speaker 3: experts that do this. But the idea is that you're 202 00:10:09,714 --> 00:10:12,514 Speaker 3: depuffing and sculpting by moving this fluid around, and that's 203 00:10:12,514 --> 00:10:14,354 Speaker 3: something that is a little bit more accessible. Like if 204 00:10:14,394 --> 00:10:16,674 Speaker 3: you think of other sort of things that are supposed 205 00:10:16,674 --> 00:10:19,474 Speaker 3: to snatch you and make you really chiseled, often they're 206 00:10:19,554 --> 00:10:23,034 Speaker 3: quite invasive, maybe they're quite expensive. The idea of jumping 207 00:10:23,034 --> 00:10:25,474 Speaker 3: on a one hundred dollars Amazon vibration plate or doing 208 00:10:25,554 --> 00:10:28,274 Speaker 3: ten minutes of Gwasha in the morning is very accessible 209 00:10:28,274 --> 00:10:29,754 Speaker 3: for all of us, and it's a really nice way 210 00:10:29,754 --> 00:10:32,234 Speaker 3: for people to kind of invest in their bodies and themselves. 211 00:10:32,274 --> 00:10:34,554 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of self care involved there, which 212 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:35,234 Speaker 3: is really. 213 00:10:35,034 --> 00:10:37,314 Speaker 4: Great, especially in the rise of the world. You know 214 00:10:37,394 --> 00:10:40,514 Speaker 4: that real wellness culture, self help, it's. 215 00:10:40,474 --> 00:10:42,674 Speaker 3: Quite holistic and it's kind of you know, what else 216 00:10:42,714 --> 00:10:44,714 Speaker 3: can we do? But I think it's important to note 217 00:10:44,714 --> 00:10:47,194 Speaker 3: obviously that the results are temporary, like your lymph comes 218 00:10:47,234 --> 00:10:49,234 Speaker 3: and goes, so it's gonna then build up again. You're 219 00:10:49,274 --> 00:10:52,154 Speaker 3: gonna have to do it again. And it's more about 220 00:10:52,354 --> 00:10:56,754 Speaker 3: drainage and circulation, not necessarily about permanent sculpting any of 221 00:10:56,754 --> 00:10:58,634 Speaker 3: those sorts of things. So if you do Guasha one day, 222 00:10:58,634 --> 00:11:00,194 Speaker 3: it's probably not going to make a difference. But a 223 00:11:00,194 --> 00:11:02,353 Speaker 3: lot of people purport that if you do it regularly, 224 00:11:02,794 --> 00:11:05,954 Speaker 3: they find that their circulation in their lymphatic system is 225 00:11:05,954 --> 00:11:08,754 Speaker 3: a lot better. Yeah, so yeah, I think the main 226 00:11:08,794 --> 00:11:10,594 Speaker 3: thing to just know is that any kind of movement 227 00:11:10,634 --> 00:11:12,834 Speaker 3: can help. If you go for a walk, a stretch, 228 00:11:13,034 --> 00:11:16,514 Speaker 3: just some really deep breathing, that even alone is enough. 229 00:11:16,594 --> 00:11:19,194 Speaker 3: If you want to add these extra things, great, But 230 00:11:19,714 --> 00:11:21,114 Speaker 3: I don't think you have to do like some of 231 00:11:21,154 --> 00:11:23,594 Speaker 3: these crazy routines that you're seeing on TikTok either. No, 232 00:11:23,714 --> 00:11:24,354 Speaker 3: absolutely not. 233 00:11:24,674 --> 00:11:28,754 Speaker 4: I've read something from one of the LA based lymphatic 234 00:11:28,834 --> 00:11:32,914 Speaker 4: drainage specialists. So she treats people like Paris Hilton, Naomi Campbell. 235 00:11:33,394 --> 00:11:36,794 Speaker 4: Her name's Flavia Lanini. She said as much as I 236 00:11:36,834 --> 00:11:39,634 Speaker 4: wish it were true that you can perform a professional 237 00:11:39,634 --> 00:11:42,554 Speaker 4: grade lymphatic drainage massage on yourself. It's not. 238 00:11:43,034 --> 00:11:44,074 Speaker 3: It's not possible. 239 00:11:44,274 --> 00:11:47,674 Speaker 4: The pressure and technique required to effectively reach and stimulate 240 00:11:47,674 --> 00:11:50,754 Speaker 4: the lymphatic system cannot be achieved using your own hands. 241 00:11:51,474 --> 00:11:54,074 Speaker 4: It's not about strength, it's about the angle and the 242 00:11:54,114 --> 00:11:56,234 Speaker 4: precision of hitting those points. 243 00:11:56,674 --> 00:11:57,834 Speaker 3: So I think the thing. 244 00:11:57,754 --> 00:12:02,194 Speaker 4: Is, yes, we're seeing, you know, these celebrities swearing by it, 245 00:12:02,234 --> 00:12:06,074 Speaker 4: but they're going to see Flavia Lanini, who is a specialist. 246 00:12:06,194 --> 00:12:08,394 Speaker 3: Lavia come to Australia. 247 00:12:08,474 --> 00:12:08,953 Speaker 1: We need you. 248 00:12:09,434 --> 00:12:11,834 Speaker 4: But I think the thing is yeah, as we said, 249 00:12:11,994 --> 00:12:16,394 Speaker 4: it's that lending back to wellness and looking after yourself 250 00:12:16,434 --> 00:12:18,514 Speaker 4: and if these things make you feel. 251 00:12:18,194 --> 00:12:21,714 Speaker 3: Good, great, go for it. And you know that's the thing. 252 00:12:21,834 --> 00:12:25,154 Speaker 3: It works. Lymphatic drainage works, but it is being oversold 253 00:12:25,194 --> 00:12:27,234 Speaker 3: a little bit. I don't think we're going to get yeah, 254 00:12:27,274 --> 00:12:29,914 Speaker 3: celebrity results at home, but a bit of walking, a 255 00:12:29,914 --> 00:12:31,874 Speaker 3: bit of movement, breathing. If you want to try a 256 00:12:31,954 --> 00:12:35,434 Speaker 3: vibration plate, be my guest, and you know what, just 257 00:12:35,474 --> 00:12:37,514 Speaker 3: see how you feel, honestly, because at the end of 258 00:12:37,554 --> 00:12:39,914 Speaker 3: the day, the main thing is that you're not hurting 259 00:12:39,914 --> 00:12:42,394 Speaker 3: yourself and no, you know you're investing in yourself and 260 00:12:42,434 --> 00:12:45,074 Speaker 3: that's always nice. And that's it for the beauty edit. 261 00:12:45,194 --> 00:12:48,514 Speaker 3: Let's get on with the show. I couldn't help, but 262 00:12:48,634 --> 00:12:50,034 Speaker 3: wonder ask me anything. 263 00:12:50,114 --> 00:12:50,874 Speaker 4: You ask many. 264 00:12:50,754 --> 00:12:57,274 Speaker 2: Questions, all right, So question number one is about creating 265 00:12:57,394 --> 00:13:00,354 Speaker 2: funnily enough, but it is not a muscle podcast. 266 00:13:00,474 --> 00:13:02,594 Speaker 1: Oh I wish I had my muscles out. I've got 267 00:13:02,634 --> 00:13:04,594 Speaker 1: really good muscles. Me too, but I don't do anything. 268 00:13:04,634 --> 00:13:06,834 Speaker 1: It's because we've got hefty little boys. 269 00:13:07,234 --> 00:13:11,034 Speaker 2: Oh, Sarah's asked creatine in moisturizer. Laura were doing this 270 00:13:11,274 --> 00:13:14,154 Speaker 2: in their hydrorange for men. It had a similar effect 271 00:13:14,154 --> 00:13:17,954 Speaker 2: to the peptides, with miraculous plumping of deep set lines. 272 00:13:18,234 --> 00:13:21,674 Speaker 1: Does Sarah work for real? The miraculous like just the 273 00:13:21,674 --> 00:13:22,714 Speaker 1: way it's been worded? Again? 274 00:13:23,034 --> 00:13:24,874 Speaker 2: But they took it off the market over a year ago. 275 00:13:25,234 --> 00:13:28,194 Speaker 2: Nivia seems to be the only company with creatine in 276 00:13:28,234 --> 00:13:31,554 Speaker 2: their moisturizer now, but it's much lowered down the ingredient list. 277 00:13:31,754 --> 00:13:34,474 Speaker 2: So what gives why has it disappeared from the market 278 00:13:34,514 --> 00:13:38,154 Speaker 2: in moisturizer form when it is so effective? Your thoughts 279 00:13:38,194 --> 00:13:40,314 Speaker 2: are ever much appreciated. 280 00:13:40,514 --> 00:13:42,674 Speaker 1: Great question. I love when we get a question that 281 00:13:42,714 --> 00:13:46,394 Speaker 1: we haven't had before any version of yeah, like niche questions, 282 00:13:46,434 --> 00:13:50,434 Speaker 1: so niche, so Sarah, very good attention to detail. Do 283 00:13:50,474 --> 00:13:54,034 Speaker 1: you take creatine? Absolutely? Okay, I only do since my 284 00:13:54,714 --> 00:13:57,994 Speaker 1: lady doctor made me for Perry, so creatine. Let's do 285 00:13:58,034 --> 00:14:00,834 Speaker 1: a little creatine lesson. I'm not a doctor, guys, I 286 00:14:00,834 --> 00:14:05,194 Speaker 1: don't know if you know, but you might be seeing, 287 00:14:05,234 --> 00:14:08,554 Speaker 1: depending on your algorithm, creatine everywhere. So we used to 288 00:14:08,554 --> 00:14:10,834 Speaker 1: think it was a subsecurit was protein. Now it's creating. 289 00:14:10,874 --> 00:14:12,834 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, well you've got to have both, Kelly. Oh, 290 00:14:14,274 --> 00:14:16,874 Speaker 1: I should get like, I can't have all my creatine 291 00:14:16,874 --> 00:14:18,194 Speaker 1: and protein because I'm sitting here. You've got to do 292 00:14:18,234 --> 00:14:20,114 Speaker 1: it all day long. But well not really, but you 293 00:14:20,154 --> 00:14:23,034 Speaker 1: know how, it's such a dedication. So creatine is really 294 00:14:23,034 --> 00:14:24,754 Speaker 1: big in the supplement world right now. And we used 295 00:14:24,754 --> 00:14:26,514 Speaker 1: to think it was for gym bros because it's for 296 00:14:26,554 --> 00:14:29,514 Speaker 1: their gains, and it is, but everyone needs it in 297 00:14:29,554 --> 00:14:32,754 Speaker 1: their body, and your body makes it naturally, and then 298 00:14:32,794 --> 00:14:35,514 Speaker 1: with all the good stuff, as we age, it declines, 299 00:14:35,794 --> 00:14:39,394 Speaker 1: so it's not a stimulant. But you take it just 300 00:14:39,474 --> 00:14:41,754 Speaker 1: after Some people take it before the gym I don't 301 00:14:41,794 --> 00:14:44,874 Speaker 1: go to the gym, but I take it for other reasons. 302 00:14:44,874 --> 00:14:48,434 Speaker 1: So what it basically does is it supercharges the cells 303 00:14:48,434 --> 00:14:50,554 Speaker 1: to give them more energy. So it doesn't give you 304 00:14:50,594 --> 00:14:52,514 Speaker 1: more energy like you've had fifty five coffees in your 305 00:14:52,514 --> 00:14:55,114 Speaker 1: own free workout. No, you're not going to feel like 306 00:14:55,154 --> 00:14:58,194 Speaker 1: we but it kind of goes into the cells and goes, yeah, 307 00:14:58,314 --> 00:15:01,434 Speaker 1: let's do this, and so you can lift heavier, recover 308 00:15:02,114 --> 00:15:05,874 Speaker 1: faster if you are using it for exercise. Whereas for women, 309 00:15:06,714 --> 00:15:10,114 Speaker 1: it can help when your estrogen declines because the lovely 310 00:15:10,154 --> 00:15:13,514 Speaker 1: things that happen then are muscle mass loss and bone 311 00:15:13,554 --> 00:15:16,634 Speaker 1: density loss, so it can help with that. And basically 312 00:15:16,674 --> 00:15:18,634 Speaker 1: it's just like how your body makes energy. It helps 313 00:15:18,634 --> 00:15:21,474 Speaker 1: your body make energy to then do things more efficiently. 314 00:15:21,594 --> 00:15:23,954 Speaker 1: So in Perry, I'm a terrible sleeper. It can help 315 00:15:23,994 --> 00:15:26,874 Speaker 1: with that. Hasn't really helped me. It can help you 316 00:15:26,954 --> 00:15:30,514 Speaker 1: feel less fatigued and helping brainfall. Is it working for 317 00:15:30,554 --> 00:15:32,754 Speaker 1: me right now? But it's an important thing that happens 318 00:15:32,754 --> 00:15:34,954 Speaker 1: in everyone's body, and it's an important thing to have. 319 00:15:35,154 --> 00:15:38,634 Speaker 1: So in there it's making our celves do faster. Yay, 320 00:15:38,834 --> 00:15:40,834 Speaker 1: go go go, So wouldn't that be good on O skin, 321 00:15:41,034 --> 00:15:42,354 Speaker 1: it would be you would think. 322 00:15:43,234 --> 00:15:45,754 Speaker 2: Can I just look backtrack though, because I'm at the 323 00:15:45,794 --> 00:15:50,394 Speaker 2: moment twenty twenty six, I'm on my attempting collagen journey, 324 00:15:50,434 --> 00:15:51,754 Speaker 2: attempting collagen every day. 325 00:15:51,994 --> 00:15:53,074 Speaker 1: So we take our collagen. 326 00:15:53,234 --> 00:15:56,794 Speaker 2: Some people take their protein water, We take our salts, 327 00:15:56,914 --> 00:16:00,114 Speaker 2: extra salts, and now we're putting creteine in our drinks. 328 00:15:59,874 --> 00:16:03,834 Speaker 1: As well, like this is loaded water. Like I've how 329 00:16:04,034 --> 00:16:05,794 Speaker 1: am I to go with these things? So, I mean, 330 00:16:05,874 --> 00:16:08,274 Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, but I my obstetrician and my 331 00:16:08,354 --> 00:16:10,354 Speaker 1: gynecologist is the same person who I still see after 332 00:16:10,394 --> 00:16:12,674 Speaker 1: I had my son, and she they're not prescribed, you 333 00:16:12,834 --> 00:16:14,314 Speaker 1: just buy them. But she told me to get this 334 00:16:14,354 --> 00:16:15,074 Speaker 1: brand that's scummy. 335 00:16:15,114 --> 00:16:18,234 Speaker 2: Oh can you please? Thank goodness? And also can we 336 00:16:18,274 --> 00:16:20,154 Speaker 2: get protein gummies an. 337 00:16:20,114 --> 00:16:24,074 Speaker 1: Ecologen gummies collagen gummies? Anyway, we're way off the topic. 338 00:16:24,834 --> 00:16:29,474 Speaker 1: So Sarah's thinking is completely logical, right because it goes 339 00:16:29,474 --> 00:16:34,114 Speaker 1: in and stimulates the energy and kind of gets buzziness 340 00:16:34,114 --> 00:16:37,314 Speaker 1: happening in terms of stronger muscle, bigger muscles, better recovery. 341 00:16:37,354 --> 00:16:38,314 Speaker 1: So imagine that for your skin. 342 00:16:38,554 --> 00:16:41,994 Speaker 2: But is it kind of like why we don't put collagen? Well, 343 00:16:41,994 --> 00:16:44,154 Speaker 2: there's no point to putting collagen in us. 344 00:16:44,194 --> 00:16:46,354 Speaker 1: I mean it does do all those things to our skins, 345 00:16:46,434 --> 00:16:49,474 Speaker 1: so it would kind of help the fatigue of skin, 346 00:16:49,514 --> 00:16:52,274 Speaker 1: which can happen, you know with environmental stresses, so pollution 347 00:16:52,394 --> 00:16:55,874 Speaker 1: and just being alive, regenerating cells, all of that stuff 348 00:16:55,954 --> 00:17:00,474 Speaker 1: and basically makes skin work harder to look better. But 349 00:17:01,434 --> 00:17:05,114 Speaker 1: guess what else does that way better? Peptides spidamin a category, 350 00:17:05,194 --> 00:17:09,634 Speaker 1: so your retinols, your retinoids, peptides, and your nicinamide. So 351 00:17:10,033 --> 00:17:12,394 Speaker 1: there's already ingredients that are doing it and are more 352 00:17:12,434 --> 00:17:15,114 Speaker 1: studied and a more effective. So they've studied creatine and 353 00:17:15,154 --> 00:17:19,314 Speaker 1: on its own is the key ingredient. It's okay, it 354 00:17:19,354 --> 00:17:21,474 Speaker 1: does those things. You're going to have to be using 355 00:17:21,514 --> 00:17:24,474 Speaker 1: it really consistently for a long time. Best is vitamin A. 356 00:17:24,754 --> 00:17:26,474 Speaker 1: So vitamin A is kind of what we call the 357 00:17:26,674 --> 00:17:31,833 Speaker 1: umbrellatterm for your retinoids, retinols, retinals, but that's basically doing 358 00:17:32,074 --> 00:17:36,154 Speaker 1: what creatine could do on steroids. Then you've got your 359 00:17:36,234 --> 00:17:38,914 Speaker 1: B vitamin so nicinamide we put on our skin. It 360 00:17:39,034 --> 00:17:41,553 Speaker 1: is wonderful. It's going to do everything that creatine could do, 361 00:17:41,634 --> 00:17:46,354 Speaker 1: but better. Your favorite peptides peppy peppy peptide again everything 362 00:17:46,394 --> 00:17:50,114 Speaker 1: that the creatine could do, but better, even coenzyme Q ten. 363 00:17:50,314 --> 00:17:52,874 Speaker 1: So that's a Nivia's kind of known for it, but 364 00:17:52,914 --> 00:17:54,634 Speaker 1: it's in a lot of things. Again, it's going to 365 00:17:54,714 --> 00:17:57,954 Speaker 1: do all the things creatine would do topically but better. 366 00:17:58,234 --> 00:18:04,313 Speaker 2: So the TLDR is that they could put it in formulas. 367 00:18:03,794 --> 00:18:06,033 Speaker 1: And it isn't and in a fair fear, but you 368 00:18:06,034 --> 00:18:08,794 Speaker 1: don't really see it because it's just not nice to have. Well, 369 00:18:08,794 --> 00:18:10,354 Speaker 1: it plays along with the other ones and then they 370 00:18:10,394 --> 00:18:11,634 Speaker 1: go do it all together as a team. 371 00:18:12,354 --> 00:18:14,674 Speaker 2: So it's just like we're not going to go drink 372 00:18:14,754 --> 00:18:16,354 Speaker 2: vitamin even though it's really good for you. 373 00:18:16,474 --> 00:18:18,594 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's good. So there's a few on 374 00:18:18,634 --> 00:18:21,434 Speaker 1: the market at the moment. She's right, the Nivia Q 375 00:18:21,514 --> 00:18:25,793 Speaker 1: ten replenishing anti aging nightcream twenty eight dollars. It's names 376 00:18:25,794 --> 00:18:28,794 Speaker 1: on the packaging and in the marketing along with other ingredients. 377 00:18:29,274 --> 00:18:32,074 Speaker 1: And then there's a Men's I serum that's actually really popular. 378 00:18:32,114 --> 00:18:36,234 Speaker 1: It's called only Skin Men's I Serum seventy seven dollars, 379 00:18:36,274 --> 00:18:38,114 Speaker 1: not on the packaging but used in the marketing. And 380 00:18:38,154 --> 00:18:41,314 Speaker 1: so I think you'll see as creatine kind of comes 381 00:18:41,394 --> 00:18:45,074 Speaker 1: out of that kind of hardcore gym culture to women 382 00:18:45,274 --> 00:18:48,914 Speaker 1: and just everyone. Obviously, marketing it to men topically makes 383 00:18:48,954 --> 00:18:51,954 Speaker 1: sense because they're probably more across creatine as a word, 384 00:18:52,554 --> 00:18:55,114 Speaker 1: so they go, oh, I take that, So that sounds awful. 385 00:18:55,474 --> 00:18:57,634 Speaker 1: They say, oh, I take that so great, I'd want 386 00:18:57,674 --> 00:18:59,074 Speaker 1: it on my skin. So a lot loos that you 387 00:18:59,154 --> 00:19:01,793 Speaker 1: tried to do gym broboys. Oh well, all men are 388 00:19:01,834 --> 00:19:03,834 Speaker 1: just like, oh I do that, Like, yeah, that's my 389 00:19:03,914 --> 00:19:06,514 Speaker 1: husband and he doesn't talk like that anyway. I think 390 00:19:06,554 --> 00:19:09,074 Speaker 1: we'll see it increase in the marketing for men. 391 00:19:09,234 --> 00:19:09,593 Speaker 2: First. 392 00:19:10,274 --> 00:19:12,714 Speaker 1: I think women are more discerning with ingredients, so they'll 393 00:19:12,714 --> 00:19:14,874 Speaker 1: probably be like, whereas men will just go, oh, yeah, 394 00:19:14,914 --> 00:19:16,754 Speaker 1: I take that, so I'll put on my face. Yep, 395 00:19:17,034 --> 00:19:19,914 Speaker 1: it's a good ingredient. But there's blatter that. Great question, 396 00:19:20,074 --> 00:19:29,074 Speaker 1: great answer, great question, all right. Question two is from 397 00:19:29,274 --> 00:19:32,793 Speaker 1: M and our producers are dying slash terrified to know 398 00:19:32,834 --> 00:19:36,274 Speaker 1: the answer. Oh is it like M vernum? No? No, No, 399 00:19:36,994 --> 00:19:39,114 Speaker 1: it's a real life Well M venom is real too, 400 00:19:39,114 --> 00:19:42,594 Speaker 1: but it's a UBM. Please help us settle a current 401 00:19:42,634 --> 00:19:46,634 Speaker 1: debate who's us? Is there a hygiene concern with makeup 402 00:19:46,674 --> 00:19:50,194 Speaker 1: products that have a sponge application? Method, so basically like 403 00:19:50,234 --> 00:19:54,273 Speaker 1: a dough foot right or a cushion foundation. I have 404 00:19:54,354 --> 00:19:56,954 Speaker 1: been using the mab Lene Instant perfector for in one 405 00:19:56,954 --> 00:20:00,914 Speaker 1: glow foundation. Love it, but I'm worried that bacteria growth 406 00:20:00,914 --> 00:20:04,274 Speaker 1: could be contributing to my current breakout. Are we supposed 407 00:20:04,274 --> 00:20:06,754 Speaker 1: to be cleaning the sponge or does the sponge have 408 00:20:06,914 --> 00:20:11,274 Speaker 1: in built antibacterial properties that last the lifespan of the product. 409 00:20:11,954 --> 00:20:15,274 Speaker 2: Firstly, I think that the makeup sponge applicator is very 410 00:20:15,314 --> 00:20:17,994 Speaker 2: separate to a doe foot applicator because the dough foot 411 00:20:17,994 --> 00:20:21,234 Speaker 2: would only really be used in a lip. 412 00:20:21,034 --> 00:20:25,634 Speaker 1: Product under iye con seeler. Oh my goodness, soizing the 413 00:20:26,554 --> 00:20:29,914 Speaker 1: phase line. But I use the Mabeline Adeline Conceala sometimes 414 00:20:29,914 --> 00:20:30,434 Speaker 1: so that. 415 00:20:30,354 --> 00:20:32,754 Speaker 2: One's like a big that's a ja though it's not 416 00:20:32,794 --> 00:20:35,394 Speaker 2: really a like I'm thinking of a lip bum. Yeah, 417 00:20:35,434 --> 00:20:38,074 Speaker 2: lip food. But they also do come for undie. But 418 00:20:38,194 --> 00:20:41,074 Speaker 2: I would say that lip products as a whole are 419 00:20:41,114 --> 00:20:43,794 Speaker 2: inherently more unhygienic, which is why we should throw them 420 00:20:43,834 --> 00:20:47,914 Speaker 2: out more often, and especially if we get like colds 421 00:20:47,994 --> 00:20:51,474 Speaker 2: or absolutely yeah, we've got any sort of mouth thing. 422 00:20:52,874 --> 00:20:57,114 Speaker 2: The short answer is there's absolutely no like in built 423 00:20:57,954 --> 00:21:02,914 Speaker 2: hygiene antibacterial, So if you actually think about it, it 424 00:21:02,954 --> 00:21:06,234 Speaker 2: is kind of gross, especially the more product it's absorbing, 425 00:21:06,314 --> 00:21:08,594 Speaker 2: So with the more cush any one like the Mabeline. 426 00:21:08,194 --> 00:21:10,194 Speaker 1: Againe full foundation your face. 427 00:21:10,354 --> 00:21:14,033 Speaker 2: Yeah, However, I just don't think it's worth worrying about 428 00:21:14,074 --> 00:21:19,234 Speaker 2: too much unless you have acnake skin or you're getting 429 00:21:19,234 --> 00:21:22,474 Speaker 2: a lot of congestion and build up. But then in 430 00:21:22,514 --> 00:21:25,634 Speaker 2: that case it's probably more so are you double cleansing, 431 00:21:26,194 --> 00:21:27,754 Speaker 2: like are you making sure that you're doing a really 432 00:21:27,834 --> 00:21:30,954 Speaker 2: good cleanse? So you absolutely could wash it and when 433 00:21:30,994 --> 00:21:33,474 Speaker 2: you do wash your makeup brushes, but let's be honest, 434 00:21:33,514 --> 00:21:35,714 Speaker 2: most people aren't washing their makeup brushes as often as 435 00:21:35,714 --> 00:21:36,594 Speaker 2: they should anyway. 436 00:21:36,674 --> 00:21:39,754 Speaker 1: Oh, I would go through a whole Maybolene Instant Perfective 437 00:21:39,754 --> 00:21:40,874 Speaker 1: before I washed my project. 438 00:21:40,954 --> 00:21:42,834 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you could even just give it like a 439 00:21:42,874 --> 00:21:45,513 Speaker 2: little wipe. Yeah, I would do the bacterial wipe. You 440 00:21:45,554 --> 00:21:47,594 Speaker 2: can get them from Kmart for a couple of dollars 441 00:21:47,634 --> 00:21:50,354 Speaker 2: to just give it a little swipe if you're worried. 442 00:21:50,794 --> 00:21:52,914 Speaker 2: But it's just one of those things where no, it's 443 00:21:52,954 --> 00:21:55,793 Speaker 2: not actually that hygienic if you think about it, especially 444 00:21:55,794 --> 00:21:58,394 Speaker 2: if you were sharing the products. 445 00:21:58,114 --> 00:21:59,634 Speaker 1: Or no you can't share something like this. 446 00:21:59,834 --> 00:22:03,474 Speaker 2: But it's just not really worth worrying too much about it. 447 00:22:03,474 --> 00:22:04,954 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, he's got a current 448 00:22:05,154 --> 00:22:06,674 Speaker 2: breakout or she does. 449 00:22:06,794 --> 00:22:10,553 Speaker 1: Yeah, she says, I'm worried. Oh, then yes, it's causing it. Well, 450 00:22:10,594 --> 00:22:12,154 Speaker 1: actually we can't say that, but I would not be 451 00:22:12,194 --> 00:22:15,874 Speaker 1: causing it but helping it. Yeah, I mean that particular product, 452 00:22:15,914 --> 00:22:18,434 Speaker 1: the Maybeline Instant perfect A four in one glow is 453 00:22:18,514 --> 00:22:21,674 Speaker 1: literally like a big wind up sponge. There's not a 454 00:22:21,754 --> 00:22:24,313 Speaker 1: huge amount that I like that. You get cushioned foundations, 455 00:22:24,354 --> 00:22:26,834 Speaker 1: but of course, oh I actually no, the spongy bit. 456 00:22:27,114 --> 00:22:29,234 Speaker 2: I don't use the spongy bit though, and you often 457 00:22:29,274 --> 00:22:30,833 Speaker 2: would wash your brush. 458 00:22:30,914 --> 00:22:32,793 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it bounces on the trampoline, but then you 459 00:22:32,874 --> 00:22:34,914 Speaker 1: wash your brush and then the mabeling is a very 460 00:22:35,314 --> 00:22:38,554 Speaker 1: specific products. It is, but even the under eye ones, 461 00:22:38,594 --> 00:22:41,394 Speaker 1: like if you've had conjunctivitis, that's got to go, because 462 00:22:41,434 --> 00:22:44,594 Speaker 1: my friend would get conjunctivitis. My friend last year she 463 00:22:44,714 --> 00:22:48,554 Speaker 1: just used her mascara after having conjunctividers and gave herself conjunctivitis. 464 00:22:48,634 --> 00:22:48,914 Speaker 3: Again. 465 00:22:49,274 --> 00:22:51,634 Speaker 1: She's got pink Ike twice for a fool. So look, 466 00:22:51,674 --> 00:22:54,034 Speaker 1: it's no different to make up sponges or makeup brushes. 467 00:22:54,474 --> 00:22:57,714 Speaker 1: Don't share because it's well in that you like, it'll 468 00:22:57,754 --> 00:23:00,834 Speaker 1: be as dirty as you know. And oftentimes I'll go, oh, 469 00:23:00,874 --> 00:23:02,754 Speaker 1: but I would just go to another brush instead of 470 00:23:02,834 --> 00:23:04,394 Speaker 1: washing it because I'm lazy. But you can't do that 471 00:23:04,394 --> 00:23:07,554 Speaker 1: because it's attached to the products. Don't share own apply 472 00:23:07,594 --> 00:23:10,434 Speaker 1: to an active breakout, cold saw or conjunctivices. If you're 473 00:23:10,474 --> 00:23:13,434 Speaker 1: using the under I can cela. There's this tiny risk 474 00:23:13,474 --> 00:23:16,594 Speaker 1: of stuff which can happen and staff is not fun 475 00:23:16,634 --> 00:23:19,594 Speaker 1: and can be deadly. Not to alarm you, but if 476 00:23:19,594 --> 00:23:22,114 Speaker 1: you have regular brushes and spongers, that's a good reason 477 00:23:22,154 --> 00:23:24,833 Speaker 1: to clean them regularly. Check it with smell. You'll know 478 00:23:24,914 --> 00:23:27,314 Speaker 1: if it's gone a bit gross. If it smells Yecki, 479 00:23:27,834 --> 00:23:29,594 Speaker 1: don't put the lid on and then keep it in 480 00:23:29,594 --> 00:23:32,714 Speaker 1: a steamy bathroom because it's already a liquid product, so 481 00:23:32,754 --> 00:23:34,834 Speaker 1: it's going to like bacteria's gonna be like, well, let's 482 00:23:34,874 --> 00:23:37,194 Speaker 1: go for a swim. I would do exactly as Kelly 483 00:23:37,194 --> 00:23:38,954 Speaker 1: said and just like give it a wipe, or you 484 00:23:38,994 --> 00:23:42,833 Speaker 1: can just use one of those makeup antibacterial makeup brush sprays. 485 00:23:42,874 --> 00:23:45,154 Speaker 1: Just because it's attached to the foundation. You can absolutely 486 00:23:45,274 --> 00:23:47,914 Speaker 1: wash it. It's not going to get into the I mean, 487 00:23:47,994 --> 00:23:50,434 Speaker 1: I'm just too lazy to do that. The reason I 488 00:23:50,434 --> 00:23:53,354 Speaker 1: would use something like this is because of the convenience, 489 00:23:53,354 --> 00:23:55,634 Speaker 1: because you just wind it up if you go, oh, 490 00:23:55,634 --> 00:23:58,194 Speaker 1: and it's a great product. I think as well. 491 00:23:58,434 --> 00:24:00,914 Speaker 2: This is the sort of product often, you know, Lee 492 00:24:00,954 --> 00:24:04,994 Speaker 2: and I are quite lax with expiration or what's it 493 00:24:05,034 --> 00:24:07,394 Speaker 2: called when you're opening yeah, yeah, yeah, it give it 494 00:24:07,394 --> 00:24:10,194 Speaker 2: says six months after opening. Most of the time we're like, eh, 495 00:24:10,194 --> 00:24:11,954 Speaker 2: we've got eye shadow palate eight. 496 00:24:11,834 --> 00:24:12,954 Speaker 1: Months and it's actually four years. 497 00:24:12,994 --> 00:24:15,114 Speaker 2: It's like I've got ice shodow palets that I regularly 498 00:24:15,194 --> 00:24:18,194 Speaker 2: use at a decade old. This sort of product is 499 00:24:18,234 --> 00:24:21,394 Speaker 2: definitely one that you stick to the like, I agree, 500 00:24:21,474 --> 00:24:23,474 Speaker 2: after you've had it for however many months, and that 501 00:24:23,554 --> 00:24:26,033 Speaker 2: it says on the packet after opening, put it in 502 00:24:26,034 --> 00:24:26,314 Speaker 2: the bin. 503 00:24:26,474 --> 00:24:28,154 Speaker 1: I was going to say that because if you're in 504 00:24:28,194 --> 00:24:29,273 Speaker 1: too make up and you've got a whole bunch of 505 00:24:29,274 --> 00:24:32,474 Speaker 1: different foundations, maybe this isn't the best one for you. 506 00:24:32,634 --> 00:24:33,914 Speaker 1: Or wind it up and use a brush of a 507 00:24:33,954 --> 00:24:35,874 Speaker 1: sponge for to your fingers, because you don't want to 508 00:24:35,914 --> 00:24:38,634 Speaker 1: like revisit every three months, and then you end up having. 509 00:24:38,514 --> 00:24:40,594 Speaker 2: It for four years exactly and it's still the same 510 00:24:40,674 --> 00:24:43,074 Speaker 2: manky old sponge you've been using. 511 00:24:43,234 --> 00:24:44,674 Speaker 1: I mean, you could just wind it up and use 512 00:24:44,714 --> 00:24:47,234 Speaker 1: another sponge, But then what's the point I wanted to 513 00:24:47,234 --> 00:24:51,154 Speaker 1: mention quickly. Three No rince brush spray cleanses that I 514 00:24:51,154 --> 00:24:53,674 Speaker 1: think are really good, because that's pretty much the level 515 00:24:53,674 --> 00:24:56,114 Speaker 1: I'm at right now. I don't want water. I don't 516 00:24:56,114 --> 00:24:58,394 Speaker 1: want to waste water. I do, but I can't be bothered. 517 00:24:58,794 --> 00:25:02,274 Speaker 1: So four and no Rints Brush cleaning spray sixteen dollars. 518 00:25:02,314 --> 00:25:04,874 Speaker 1: That's got a lot of great reviews. One I haven't tried, 519 00:25:04,914 --> 00:25:07,914 Speaker 1: but ordered as soon as I researched this, The Secrets 520 00:25:07,954 --> 00:25:11,394 Speaker 1: Professional Makeup brush cleaner Spray. Why do I struggle with 521 00:25:11,394 --> 00:25:13,674 Speaker 1: all those words together? Twenty five dollars? If that had 522 00:25:14,874 --> 00:25:17,474 Speaker 1: ten gajillion review okay not, but like the reviews were 523 00:25:17,554 --> 00:25:21,794 Speaker 1: phenomenon in thousands. The Real Techniques instant brush cleanser Sprays 524 00:25:21,834 --> 00:25:23,833 Speaker 1: twenty seven However, I feel like that's a lot bigger. 525 00:25:24,034 --> 00:25:26,033 Speaker 1: But literally just raight on, like think of it like 526 00:25:26,274 --> 00:25:29,994 Speaker 1: sanitizing your hands and then just wipe. Yeah, like just go, Yeah, 527 00:25:29,994 --> 00:25:31,674 Speaker 1: you want to get the bulk of the foundation off, 528 00:25:31,674 --> 00:25:33,874 Speaker 1: which is why it's not ideal for this product, but. 529 00:25:33,794 --> 00:25:34,354 Speaker 3: Just in general. 530 00:25:34,474 --> 00:25:37,634 Speaker 2: Yeah, or and I recently got a packet of antibacterial 531 00:25:37,674 --> 00:25:39,833 Speaker 2: wipes from came up for twenty five dollars that are 532 00:25:39,874 --> 00:25:42,154 Speaker 2: like safe to use on the body. 533 00:25:42,194 --> 00:25:46,033 Speaker 1: How you go twenty five dollars? Sorry, two dollars fifty? 534 00:25:46,474 --> 00:25:49,954 Speaker 1: Oh god, miss my decimal point there, I gotta say, kmart. 535 00:25:49,994 --> 00:25:50,834 Speaker 1: Is it a kilo? 536 00:25:51,394 --> 00:25:53,394 Speaker 2: Just a normal packet of wipes, but it's safe to 537 00:25:53,514 --> 00:25:54,794 Speaker 2: use on your face and body. 538 00:25:54,794 --> 00:25:56,834 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have a car all the time. Yeah, 539 00:25:57,274 --> 00:25:59,554 Speaker 1: you might face. I wipe my leather seat, I wipe 540 00:25:59,594 --> 00:26:01,834 Speaker 1: my hair. Oh my god. If you don't have them 541 00:26:01,874 --> 00:26:03,514 Speaker 1: for every single thing, what do you do with your lie? 542 00:26:03,994 --> 00:26:06,313 Speaker 1: I haven't seen them before. Have you had a child? 543 00:26:07,114 --> 00:26:10,793 Speaker 2: Antibacterial wipes? I don't you have never used. I use wipes, 544 00:26:10,794 --> 00:26:11,714 Speaker 2: but not antibacterial. 545 00:26:11,834 --> 00:26:13,954 Speaker 1: We start with water wipes and then we get dirty 546 00:26:14,074 --> 00:26:15,074 Speaker 1: use like those other ones. 547 00:26:15,194 --> 00:26:16,994 Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I'm not like I bathe them in 548 00:26:17,034 --> 00:26:19,274 Speaker 2: debt all sometimes I'm definitely not like they're. 549 00:26:19,074 --> 00:26:22,513 Speaker 1: Dead all in a wipe anyway, Yeah, clean it if 550 00:26:22,514 --> 00:26:30,754 Speaker 1: you want otherwise, get to hear them, beauty bite. You've 551 00:26:30,754 --> 00:26:32,874 Speaker 1: got show and tell for me today I can't find it. 552 00:26:32,994 --> 00:26:36,274 Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, so your boobies are coming out? Oh 553 00:26:36,314 --> 00:26:38,833 Speaker 1: dear hello, I just wanted to be like you. Okay, 554 00:26:38,994 --> 00:26:42,674 Speaker 1: So I wear glasses, what I know? Can you see them? 555 00:26:42,794 --> 00:26:46,074 Speaker 1: And over the summer it's been so fun. I get 556 00:26:46,074 --> 00:26:50,394 Speaker 1: this irritation here right there from where this happens, so red, 557 00:26:50,514 --> 00:26:53,954 Speaker 1: so raw, so ouchy, so itchy. Tried everything. The only 558 00:26:53,954 --> 00:26:55,914 Speaker 1: thing that fixed it. And then I'm going to tell 559 00:26:55,954 --> 00:26:59,474 Speaker 1: you what else it's good for is the Avene thermal 560 00:26:59,914 --> 00:27:02,914 Speaker 1: spring water. But there's sensitive skin version. There's two versions. 561 00:27:03,434 --> 00:27:06,353 Speaker 1: This is a sensitive skin one. Yes, the regular may have, 562 00:27:06,394 --> 00:27:08,074 Speaker 1: but I just got this. Do you know what else 563 00:27:08,154 --> 00:27:10,834 Speaker 1: thiss does? What everything? Can? I use so much? Okay 564 00:27:10,834 --> 00:27:12,914 Speaker 1: it's dry, Oh my god, use it for everything? So 565 00:27:12,954 --> 00:27:14,553 Speaker 1: you know what I did? I needed to quickly do 566 00:27:14,594 --> 00:27:17,234 Speaker 1: something for my legs. I just literally sprayed this. I 567 00:27:17,234 --> 00:27:18,994 Speaker 1: had a bit of like a highlight, a kind of 568 00:27:18,994 --> 00:27:20,874 Speaker 1: bronzy something, and I was like, oh my god, my legs. 569 00:27:20,994 --> 00:27:23,434 Speaker 1: You just like anything. You wanna put your hair down, 570 00:27:23,714 --> 00:27:27,114 Speaker 1: you want to like you mix it? I know, doesn't it? 571 00:27:27,154 --> 00:27:29,154 Speaker 1: And it's not just water in a can? Well it is, 572 00:27:29,234 --> 00:27:32,914 Speaker 1: but it's but it's thermal order. It's not like Murray 573 00:27:33,234 --> 00:27:37,114 Speaker 1: damn order houses. So this is like literally straight bubbling 574 00:27:37,114 --> 00:27:39,234 Speaker 1: out of the thing and heals people's. 575 00:27:38,794 --> 00:27:41,674 Speaker 2: Like yess goddesses on the side that are like winging 576 00:27:41,754 --> 00:27:43,434 Speaker 2: it out and that it goes into the can. 577 00:27:43,714 --> 00:27:45,674 Speaker 1: Yes, but there's no way. It's so good for like 578 00:27:45,674 --> 00:27:48,674 Speaker 1: compromise skin and everything. So I was doing this like 579 00:27:48,714 --> 00:27:51,074 Speaker 1: on a little cotton pad and it fixed my skin, 580 00:27:51,434 --> 00:27:52,714 Speaker 1: and then I was like, what else can I do 581 00:27:52,794 --> 00:27:55,034 Speaker 1: with you? God? I use it for everything. That's the 582 00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:57,434 Speaker 1: sort of product that's good just to have. Yes, So 583 00:27:57,474 --> 00:27:59,354 Speaker 1: I want them to make a teeny tiny tiny one 584 00:27:59,354 --> 00:28:01,394 Speaker 1: for my clutch. Do they not? Or is it only 585 00:28:01,394 --> 00:28:01,954 Speaker 1: in the regular? 586 00:28:02,114 --> 00:28:02,674 Speaker 3: Not that little? 587 00:28:02,954 --> 00:28:04,754 Speaker 1: They do make a trouble size, but maybe only in 588 00:28:04,754 --> 00:28:07,034 Speaker 1: the regular you do, but I'm tinier, You're like, you know, 589 00:28:07,194 --> 00:28:08,954 Speaker 1: I like it to can't like I've mixed it with 590 00:28:09,074 --> 00:28:11,354 Speaker 1: hair gel to make a different texture. I've mixed I've 591 00:28:11,354 --> 00:28:14,514 Speaker 1: made creamy shadow m love. I wonder if you're stuck 592 00:28:14,514 --> 00:28:17,034 Speaker 1: in a desert island. I think it's read in your mouth. Probably, 593 00:28:17,074 --> 00:28:20,474 Speaker 1: I mean it is water well probably not. Mine is 594 00:28:20,674 --> 00:28:26,434 Speaker 1: a bit of a wo I do, but also. 595 00:28:27,714 --> 00:28:31,434 Speaker 2: It's something that you've done before, and everyone that has 596 00:28:31,474 --> 00:28:33,874 Speaker 2: any sort of fun with skin care or just I 597 00:28:33,954 --> 00:28:36,434 Speaker 2: burnt myself like I did a chemical burn. I used 598 00:28:36,434 --> 00:28:38,394 Speaker 2: a product that was too strong on my skin, was 599 00:28:38,394 --> 00:28:42,314 Speaker 2: compromised because I had a cold, and just underhere like 600 00:28:42,354 --> 00:28:44,874 Speaker 2: it turned into an. 601 00:28:44,114 --> 00:28:47,554 Speaker 1: Actual burn, like it was the scab. We've all done it. 602 00:28:47,954 --> 00:28:50,034 Speaker 2: But it's just a reminder that if you ever do 603 00:28:50,514 --> 00:28:53,434 Speaker 2: harm your skin in that sort of way with skin care, well, yes, 604 00:28:53,474 --> 00:28:57,354 Speaker 2: that would be amazing. I think a lot of the 605 00:28:57,354 --> 00:28:59,594 Speaker 2: time then people are just scared of skin care in general. 606 00:28:59,674 --> 00:29:01,474 Speaker 2: They'll be like, oh my god, which fair enough, like 607 00:29:01,474 --> 00:29:03,714 Speaker 2: you don't want to put anything on your skin. But 608 00:29:03,754 --> 00:29:06,954 Speaker 2: I was really in like a good rhythm of you 609 00:29:07,274 --> 00:29:10,274 Speaker 2: my vitamin C in the morning, using my vitamin A 610 00:29:10,554 --> 00:29:14,594 Speaker 2: the burn before, no after the burn. This is, though, 611 00:29:14,714 --> 00:29:18,154 Speaker 2: my little hack that you can still use your actives 612 00:29:18,234 --> 00:29:20,754 Speaker 2: if you've burnt your skin, as long as you don't 613 00:29:20,754 --> 00:29:23,794 Speaker 2: put them anywhere near the burn. So what I was doing, 614 00:29:23,954 --> 00:29:26,194 Speaker 2: make sure you use a barrier. If you burn your 615 00:29:26,194 --> 00:29:28,354 Speaker 2: whole face off, Okay, well then don't you stay away 616 00:29:28,434 --> 00:29:31,354 Speaker 2: for a good time. But this is like generally people 617 00:29:31,354 --> 00:29:32,914 Speaker 2: don't burn the whole face, so burn like a little 618 00:29:32,954 --> 00:29:36,354 Speaker 2: part that was maybe, yes, I remember that. So what 619 00:29:36,394 --> 00:29:38,834 Speaker 2: you would do is you would just apply then like 620 00:29:38,874 --> 00:29:40,794 Speaker 2: a barrier cream. So whether you're sick of plast beef, 621 00:29:40,834 --> 00:29:47,314 Speaker 2: I'm vassaline, poor Paul Elizabeth ar will lay to skin 622 00:29:47,354 --> 00:29:50,474 Speaker 2: foed any single thick barrier product. 623 00:29:50,634 --> 00:29:52,274 Speaker 1: Also, do you know those's supposed to be used on 624 00:29:52,514 --> 00:29:54,674 Speaker 1: bear skin, so not like if you want it to 625 00:29:54,674 --> 00:29:56,634 Speaker 1: do the repairing of the barrier, don't lay it. 626 00:29:56,674 --> 00:29:58,874 Speaker 2: Well, yes, but yes, and then so I would put 627 00:29:58,914 --> 00:30:02,634 Speaker 2: it on the skin that requires to be protected. So 628 00:30:02,674 --> 00:30:04,474 Speaker 2: I was just putting it on the burn and then 629 00:30:04,554 --> 00:30:07,994 Speaker 2: just around that nostril and then you can apply the 630 00:30:08,394 --> 00:30:09,434 Speaker 2: active to the rest. 631 00:30:09,274 --> 00:30:09,714 Speaker 1: Of your faith. 632 00:30:09,994 --> 00:30:12,554 Speaker 2: I still wouldn't like put it too close because obviously 633 00:30:12,594 --> 00:30:14,514 Speaker 2: when your skin gets warm, it can travel, so I 634 00:30:14,554 --> 00:30:16,794 Speaker 2: wouldn't put it too close. But it just meant that 635 00:30:16,874 --> 00:30:19,754 Speaker 2: I could stay in my routine using the products that 636 00:30:19,794 --> 00:30:22,434 Speaker 2: I wanted to face. It was a small burn, but 637 00:30:23,074 --> 00:30:25,714 Speaker 2: it just you don't have to just say absolutely not 638 00:30:25,914 --> 00:30:29,554 Speaker 2: no actives now until my skin's true heels. You just 639 00:30:29,594 --> 00:30:32,114 Speaker 2: need to make sure that you're protecting whatever area it is. 640 00:30:32,274 --> 00:30:33,554 Speaker 1: I'm desperate to know what you used. 641 00:30:34,514 --> 00:30:35,354 Speaker 3: I love the product. 642 00:30:35,554 --> 00:30:37,594 Speaker 1: Actually it was misused by the year it was. It 643 00:30:37,634 --> 00:30:38,794 Speaker 1: was completely on me. 644 00:30:38,874 --> 00:30:40,754 Speaker 2: I left it on for too long when I knew 645 00:30:40,754 --> 00:30:43,554 Speaker 2: that I had a I'd had a cold. 646 00:30:43,874 --> 00:30:46,354 Speaker 1: The product itself amazing, skin's already opened from all your 647 00:30:46,394 --> 00:30:49,434 Speaker 1: blowing your nose and the cracks exactly exactly. So it 648 00:30:49,474 --> 00:30:52,074 Speaker 1: was my fault. Use error, silly, use the error. It's 649 00:30:52,074 --> 00:30:53,994 Speaker 1: like that my friend that got conjuctive out as far 650 00:30:54,194 --> 00:30:57,274 Speaker 1: exactly or my friend that like burnt her under eyes. 651 00:30:57,754 --> 00:31:00,874 Speaker 1: Use error really really bad. That was the four product. 652 00:31:00,954 --> 00:31:01,834 Speaker 2: Wasn't it a product though? 653 00:31:01,954 --> 00:31:05,514 Speaker 1: Yes? Use error anyway. That is all we have time 654 00:31:05,554 --> 00:31:08,394 Speaker 1: for days fun. Thanks for listening, and if you're watching 655 00:31:08,394 --> 00:31:10,394 Speaker 1: on YouTube, we hope you enjoy that. 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