1 00:00:11,149 --> 00:00:13,909 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,829 --> 00:00:18,349 Speaker 2: Mama Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:18,349 --> 00:00:20,069 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,389 --> 00:00:23,669 Speaker 3: I am pregnant. 5 00:00:26,829 --> 00:00:29,869 Speaker 2: Welcome to Hello Bump. We're making pregnancy less overwhelming and 6 00:00:29,949 --> 00:00:32,949 Speaker 2: more manageable. I'm Grace Rubrey, i am pregnant for the 7 00:00:33,029 --> 00:00:34,989 Speaker 2: very first time, and my throat is on fire. 8 00:00:35,909 --> 00:00:36,629 Speaker 1: I'm young a pitman. 9 00:00:36,669 --> 00:00:38,949 Speaker 3: I'm a former Olympian, mother of six babies, and an 10 00:00:38,989 --> 00:00:40,469 Speaker 3: obstetrics and guyiny registrar. 11 00:00:40,989 --> 00:00:43,309 Speaker 2: Each week, we'll be holding your hand, week by week 12 00:00:43,389 --> 00:00:47,389 Speaker 2: through the mysterious, perplexing and sometimes quite uncomfortable miracle that 13 00:00:47,589 --> 00:00:49,349 Speaker 2: is pregnancy. 14 00:00:49,949 --> 00:00:53,429 Speaker 1: Welcome to Week twenty three. What size is our baby? 15 00:00:54,669 --> 00:00:57,829 Speaker 1: A squash? We've got back to a burrito again, but 16 00:00:57,829 --> 00:00:58,229 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. 17 00:00:58,229 --> 00:01:00,029 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure maybe it's a fact burrito this time 18 00:01:00,029 --> 00:01:01,349 Speaker 3: because we had a burrito in the past. 19 00:01:02,309 --> 00:01:02,869 Speaker 1: Fool Buredo. 20 00:01:03,589 --> 00:01:05,469 Speaker 2: As someone who's had a lot of goodsman and go mas, 21 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:08,789 Speaker 2: you can get a like a mini one, So we're 22 00:01:08,829 --> 00:01:11,909 Speaker 2: a regular one now, not the mini, not the media anymore. 23 00:01:11,909 --> 00:01:14,869 Speaker 3: And we're going to animals as sugar lighter so ozzy animals, 24 00:01:14,989 --> 00:01:17,789 Speaker 3: sugar a little bit more lug Oh, I love that. 25 00:01:18,229 --> 00:01:18,709 Speaker 2: I do too. 26 00:01:18,829 --> 00:01:21,429 Speaker 3: So twenty nine centimeter, it's almost a rulele length inside 27 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:25,669 Speaker 3: you at twenty twenty three weeks and five hundred grams, 28 00:01:25,709 --> 00:01:29,029 Speaker 3: which also marks what we call, for most hospitals, the viability. 29 00:01:29,069 --> 00:01:30,829 Speaker 3: So five hundred grams is what we need a baby 30 00:01:30,869 --> 00:01:33,229 Speaker 3: to be. We know has good outcomes from us from 31 00:01:33,229 --> 00:01:34,749 Speaker 3: a size perspective. 32 00:01:35,589 --> 00:01:37,749 Speaker 2: And what else are they growing? What else is making 33 00:01:37,789 --> 00:01:39,629 Speaker 2: them closer to that viability? 34 00:01:40,429 --> 00:01:41,989 Speaker 3: Well, I think that's what it is. This is the 35 00:01:41,989 --> 00:01:46,109 Speaker 3: most important week really in pregnancy. I mean there's other Obviously, 36 00:01:46,429 --> 00:01:48,229 Speaker 3: full term is probably the most important because that's where 37 00:01:48,229 --> 00:01:51,189 Speaker 3: maybe's exit strategy has to start being planned. But medically 38 00:01:51,229 --> 00:01:53,989 Speaker 3: it's a significant week because for our guys there's a 39 00:01:54,029 --> 00:01:56,269 Speaker 3: big caveat around here. It depends where you birth, it 40 00:01:56,309 --> 00:01:58,269 Speaker 3: depends on your risk factors, it depends on your baby. 41 00:01:58,309 --> 00:02:01,029 Speaker 3: There's lots of factors that it comes down to. But 42 00:02:01,149 --> 00:02:05,469 Speaker 3: in most major hospitals worldwide, we consider resuscitation from now, 43 00:02:05,549 --> 00:02:07,389 Speaker 3: so as soon as you're twenty three weeks in one day, 44 00:02:07,629 --> 00:02:09,189 Speaker 3: in fact, we even start talking about it at twenty 45 00:02:09,189 --> 00:02:11,029 Speaker 3: two weeks and six days that we give you steroids 46 00:02:11,029 --> 00:02:13,909 Speaker 3: to mature baby's lungs and magnesium sulfate for baby's brains. 47 00:02:13,909 --> 00:02:15,749 Speaker 3: So there's medications that we will be asking you do 48 00:02:15,829 --> 00:02:18,309 Speaker 3: you want to consider now. For the vast majority of 49 00:02:18,349 --> 00:02:20,429 Speaker 3: people listening to this, this won't be a conversation you 50 00:02:20,429 --> 00:02:22,309 Speaker 3: need to have because you're going to be pregnant for 51 00:02:22,349 --> 00:02:25,109 Speaker 3: a lot lot longer than today. But I think it's 52 00:02:25,149 --> 00:02:27,109 Speaker 3: a really important topic because there will be one or 53 00:02:27,109 --> 00:02:28,669 Speaker 3: two of you who this will happen to in the 54 00:02:28,669 --> 00:02:30,429 Speaker 3: next few weeks, and I think it's nice to have 55 00:02:30,469 --> 00:02:33,669 Speaker 3: information because you have to make the most difficult decisions 56 00:02:33,669 --> 00:02:35,469 Speaker 3: you're ever going to make, which is is it a 57 00:02:35,509 --> 00:02:37,549 Speaker 3: yes or is it a no? And it's still in 58 00:02:37,589 --> 00:02:40,309 Speaker 3: a window where you can say no if you don't 59 00:02:40,509 --> 00:02:43,149 Speaker 3: want or don't like the risks that are associated to this. Now, 60 00:02:43,189 --> 00:02:44,829 Speaker 3: if you were if you were birthing in a tiny 61 00:02:44,869 --> 00:02:46,989 Speaker 3: rural hospital and there was no time to move your 62 00:02:46,989 --> 00:02:49,789 Speaker 3: baby to a tertiary center, you might be a no 63 00:02:50,109 --> 00:02:51,829 Speaker 3: because it hasn't had a chance to have the steroids. 64 00:02:51,909 --> 00:02:54,669 Speaker 3: You haven't got a big unit with neronectologists that can 65 00:02:54,709 --> 00:02:56,789 Speaker 3: look after and put your little baby on a respiratory 66 00:02:57,309 --> 00:02:59,749 Speaker 3: respirator because they need to be intubated, they need to 67 00:02:59,749 --> 00:03:02,389 Speaker 3: be fed around the clock with a nasal gastric tube. 68 00:03:02,389 --> 00:03:04,429 Speaker 3: They need their monitoring really well. They sometimes need a 69 00:03:04,429 --> 00:03:06,869 Speaker 3: blood transfusion. They often need antibody. So there's a lot 70 00:03:06,949 --> 00:03:09,629 Speaker 3: of things this little guy's going to need to survive. 71 00:03:09,709 --> 00:03:12,709 Speaker 3: So that's a long conversation. The great thing is, though, 72 00:03:13,149 --> 00:03:15,149 Speaker 3: it will happen. In other words, a doctor will come in, 73 00:03:15,429 --> 00:03:17,949 Speaker 3: usually one of myself, an obstetrician in training, or a 74 00:03:17,989 --> 00:03:20,069 Speaker 3: consultant will talk to you from our perspective what birth 75 00:03:20,109 --> 00:03:23,269 Speaker 3: looks like. And the neotologist will come as well and say, right, 76 00:03:23,349 --> 00:03:25,349 Speaker 3: so these are your chances. So they might say something 77 00:03:25,349 --> 00:03:28,589 Speaker 3: along the probabilities. So the probabilities at twenty three weeks 78 00:03:28,629 --> 00:03:30,189 Speaker 3: is your baby has about a twenty to forty percent 79 00:03:30,269 --> 00:03:33,589 Speaker 3: chance of survival, with a disability rate of around fifty 80 00:03:33,629 --> 00:03:34,949 Speaker 3: percent in those that do survive. 81 00:03:35,029 --> 00:03:37,829 Speaker 1: So it's stilly percent. It's like it's getting better. 82 00:03:38,109 --> 00:03:40,549 Speaker 3: Yeah, some centers say up to seventy to eighty percent 83 00:03:40,549 --> 00:03:43,309 Speaker 3: already at this gestation. But again, weird things that determines, 84 00:03:43,349 --> 00:03:45,189 Speaker 3: like is your baby coming out head first? Is it 85 00:03:45,189 --> 00:03:48,149 Speaker 3: a vaginal birth, is it a cesarean section? And some 86 00:03:48,149 --> 00:03:50,109 Speaker 3: people think okay, no, I want this baby at all costs. 87 00:03:50,109 --> 00:03:52,749 Speaker 3: It's had steroids. I want a cesarean section because it's 88 00:03:52,789 --> 00:03:55,629 Speaker 3: the best chance for my baby to survive. The problem 89 00:03:55,669 --> 00:03:57,269 Speaker 3: is you then get left with a scar on a 90 00:03:57,309 --> 00:04:00,789 Speaker 3: transverse incision, so on a what we call a classical incision, 91 00:04:00,789 --> 00:04:02,429 Speaker 3: which means it's up and down like the old school 92 00:04:02,429 --> 00:04:04,469 Speaker 3: how people used to do Cesaian sections many years ago. 93 00:04:05,029 --> 00:04:07,029 Speaker 3: But it can cause significant problems for pain, but it 94 00:04:07,069 --> 00:04:09,709 Speaker 3: also causes problems for future pregnancy and problems of placenta 95 00:04:09,789 --> 00:04:12,269 Speaker 3: are is where where the placenter actually grows and gets 96 00:04:12,269 --> 00:04:13,869 Speaker 3: stuck or covers you us again, like we were talking 97 00:04:13,909 --> 00:04:16,749 Speaker 3: about last week, the placenta spectrum disorders. 98 00:04:17,549 --> 00:04:19,109 Speaker 1: It's a massive. 99 00:04:18,709 --> 00:04:21,029 Speaker 3: Conversation to have, and I think it's just going in 100 00:04:21,069 --> 00:04:22,509 Speaker 3: with an open mind with you and your partner that 101 00:04:22,549 --> 00:04:24,749 Speaker 3: probably at some points won't be on the same page, 102 00:04:24,989 --> 00:04:27,189 Speaker 3: but being aware that this is around the time the 103 00:04:27,189 --> 00:04:30,149 Speaker 3: conversation happens, and the hardest time is this week because 104 00:04:30,149 --> 00:04:31,909 Speaker 3: at twenty four weeks the survival rate goes up to 105 00:04:31,949 --> 00:04:33,989 Speaker 3: forty to sixty percent, and then at twenty five weeks 106 00:04:33,989 --> 00:04:35,829 Speaker 3: sixty to eighty percent, and then the twenty six weeks 107 00:04:35,829 --> 00:04:37,709 Speaker 3: seventy five to eighty percent, and where you are now, 108 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:40,029 Speaker 3: you're sitting at eighty five to ninety to ninety percent 109 00:04:40,149 --> 00:04:42,869 Speaker 3: survival rates. So it's the hardest when those odds are 110 00:04:42,909 --> 00:04:43,309 Speaker 3: really low. 111 00:04:44,029 --> 00:04:46,469 Speaker 1: What hap what's happening to me? 112 00:04:46,789 --> 00:04:49,549 Speaker 2: If everything is going well? What are some of the 113 00:04:49,589 --> 00:04:52,269 Speaker 2: things that verns and mother can be expecting it at 114 00:04:52,309 --> 00:04:52,869 Speaker 2: this moment? 115 00:04:53,149 --> 00:04:53,909 Speaker 1: Any symptoms? 116 00:04:54,029 --> 00:04:54,349 Speaker 3: Nothing? 117 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:56,589 Speaker 1: This is the lovely part of pregnancy. This is the time. 118 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:59,269 Speaker 3: Hopefully baby's wriggling around and you're feeling it a little bit. 119 00:04:59,429 --> 00:05:01,909 Speaker 3: You're not too pregnant, you can't do things, you know, 120 00:05:01,949 --> 00:05:05,189 Speaker 3: your heartburn is still horrible. Let's be honest. Hopefully nauseous disappeared. 121 00:05:05,229 --> 00:05:07,109 Speaker 3: So it is the well for me, certainly, it was 122 00:05:07,109 --> 00:05:09,509 Speaker 3: the loveliest part and pregnancy on the planet because you 123 00:05:09,509 --> 00:05:12,309 Speaker 3: feel fantastic and you're starting to feel real because the 124 00:05:12,309 --> 00:05:14,549 Speaker 3: baby's moving enough and your tummy is big enough. So yes, 125 00:05:14,589 --> 00:05:15,869 Speaker 3: So if you're if you are out one of our 126 00:05:15,869 --> 00:05:18,029 Speaker 3: lovely low risk women, Let's be honest, most of us are. 127 00:05:18,669 --> 00:05:28,709 Speaker 3: This is the best time in your life. Is this normal? 128 00:05:28,829 --> 00:05:29,429 Speaker 3: Is it normal? 129 00:05:29,949 --> 00:05:32,869 Speaker 2: Is this normal? Is about babies movements? Because all of 130 00:05:32,869 --> 00:05:35,469 Speaker 2: the pamphlets, all of the apps. Everything says to start 131 00:05:35,549 --> 00:05:39,149 Speaker 2: figuring out the pattern, but what's about I don't know 132 00:05:39,189 --> 00:05:42,709 Speaker 2: what the pattern is, so I have started My placenta 133 00:05:42,869 --> 00:05:45,909 Speaker 2: is anterior at the front yep, which meause you don't 134 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:47,749 Speaker 2: feel as much. So I don't feel as much, and 135 00:05:48,029 --> 00:05:50,189 Speaker 2: I don't I rarely feel anything in the center. It 136 00:05:50,269 --> 00:05:53,829 Speaker 2: is on the sides. In terms of starting to figure 137 00:05:53,829 --> 00:05:58,949 Speaker 2: out when she's moving, I'm not quite sure how to 138 00:05:58,989 --> 00:06:00,749 Speaker 2: pick up on those patterns. And then one of the 139 00:06:00,789 --> 00:06:03,229 Speaker 2: things that the apps say is make sure it's like 140 00:06:03,309 --> 00:06:06,469 Speaker 2: ten movements every hour or ten movements every two hours, 141 00:06:06,509 --> 00:06:09,469 Speaker 2: which is quite a stressful thing to count. What is 142 00:06:09,509 --> 00:06:12,629 Speaker 2: the in your experience as both someone who's had six 143 00:06:12,789 --> 00:06:16,349 Speaker 2: children and also speaking to very anxious pregnant people, what 144 00:06:16,389 --> 00:06:17,189 Speaker 2: are we looking for? 145 00:06:17,309 --> 00:06:19,549 Speaker 3: This is probably the most common conversation I have every week, 146 00:06:19,709 --> 00:06:22,389 Speaker 3: because everyone comes in with what we call decreased feedal movements. 147 00:06:22,429 --> 00:06:24,309 Speaker 3: Even now at twenty three, twenty four weeks, we get 148 00:06:24,309 --> 00:06:26,469 Speaker 3: women coming in. Now, guys, we will not be putting 149 00:06:26,469 --> 00:06:28,549 Speaker 3: a CTG, which is the continuous monitoring on your baby. 150 00:06:28,589 --> 00:06:30,069 Speaker 1: It's too early. We start that hunt around. 151 00:06:29,829 --> 00:06:32,429 Speaker 3: Twenty four weeks, so next week, but we can't tell 152 00:06:32,469 --> 00:06:34,389 Speaker 3: you the answer. I would love a Crystal Wald to 153 00:06:34,389 --> 00:06:35,789 Speaker 3: be able to say what it means and what it's 154 00:06:35,829 --> 00:06:38,309 Speaker 3: going to do. Every baby is its own little person 155 00:06:38,349 --> 00:06:40,749 Speaker 3: and has its own little movements, so it's literally trying 156 00:06:40,789 --> 00:06:42,949 Speaker 3: to work out what is normal for her. So what 157 00:06:42,989 --> 00:06:45,549 Speaker 3: does she do? Is she a night kicker? Is she 158 00:06:45,589 --> 00:06:47,709 Speaker 3: a day kicker? Is she not a particularly big kicker? 159 00:06:48,109 --> 00:06:50,389 Speaker 3: And when you notice a change, that's when you need 160 00:06:50,429 --> 00:06:52,589 Speaker 3: to call us. And I think the biggest thing here 161 00:06:52,669 --> 00:06:55,309 Speaker 3: is it's never wrong to call the unit if you're concerned. 162 00:06:55,349 --> 00:06:57,269 Speaker 3: You know that we are, especially if it's a public hospital. 163 00:06:57,469 --> 00:06:59,349 Speaker 3: We're a twenty four to seven servants. We're paid to 164 00:06:59,349 --> 00:07:02,109 Speaker 3: be there, so it's completely okay. And it's also really nice. 165 00:07:02,269 --> 00:07:04,669 Speaker 3: Think about it from a flip sid perspective. I deliver 166 00:07:04,749 --> 00:07:06,309 Speaker 3: some crappy news pretty regularly. 167 00:07:06,389 --> 00:07:09,069 Speaker 1: I have to be in pretty high risk, sometimes really 168 00:07:09,109 --> 00:07:10,109 Speaker 1: horrible outcome situation. 169 00:07:10,349 --> 00:07:12,589 Speaker 3: It's really nice to reassure a mum her baby's perfect 170 00:07:12,629 --> 00:07:14,149 Speaker 3: and fine and send her off with a smile. So 171 00:07:14,429 --> 00:07:16,509 Speaker 3: it's fine if you come in, just for us to 172 00:07:16,549 --> 00:07:18,749 Speaker 3: at least allow you to go, yes, I'm good. I 173 00:07:18,789 --> 00:07:21,229 Speaker 3: saw my baby on the ultrasound. The heartbeat looks great, 174 00:07:21,429 --> 00:07:23,069 Speaker 3: I'm reassured, I'll go home. 175 00:07:23,629 --> 00:07:25,389 Speaker 2: This might be a dumb question or one that's hard 176 00:07:25,389 --> 00:07:27,789 Speaker 2: to answer, but what other type of movements are there? 177 00:07:27,829 --> 00:07:32,669 Speaker 2: Because there's kicks and there's butterflies, but what other things 178 00:07:33,029 --> 00:07:34,389 Speaker 2: could be happening that you. 179 00:07:34,389 --> 00:07:37,549 Speaker 3: Might not know is a movement? So sure, that's a 180 00:07:37,589 --> 00:07:40,709 Speaker 3: good questions. Hiccups another one. Mum's feel that tummy just 181 00:07:40,709 --> 00:07:43,789 Speaker 3: like regularly feels a little hick you feel. Kicking obviously 182 00:07:43,869 --> 00:07:45,629 Speaker 3: is the main one. Now, one of the funny things 183 00:07:45,669 --> 00:07:47,989 Speaker 3: is if your baby is feet down, you might feel 184 00:07:47,989 --> 00:07:49,949 Speaker 3: increased bladder. Like I said, it's jumping and having a 185 00:07:49,949 --> 00:07:52,509 Speaker 3: party on your butter So you'll feel your movements wherever 186 00:07:52,509 --> 00:07:54,869 Speaker 3: your baby's limbs are sort of pointing. And that's what 187 00:07:54,949 --> 00:07:56,949 Speaker 3: also can change when you've got an anteria placenters, you 188 00:07:56,949 --> 00:07:58,309 Speaker 3: do feel them like laterally is you said, on the 189 00:07:58,349 --> 00:08:02,069 Speaker 3: outsides or in different areas and not expecting. But movements 190 00:08:02,069 --> 00:08:03,629 Speaker 3: are just that. Most of the time, it starts off 191 00:08:03,629 --> 00:08:05,509 Speaker 3: as flutters and then it gets stronger, and then it 192 00:08:05,509 --> 00:08:08,069 Speaker 3: gets stronger sort of twenty eight to thirty four weeks, 193 00:08:08,109 --> 00:08:11,869 Speaker 3: it's pretty regular, big strong movements. I'm rolling over towards 194 00:08:11,989 --> 00:08:13,949 Speaker 3: later pregnancy though, that don't have as much room, so 195 00:08:14,269 --> 00:08:17,069 Speaker 3: if the frequency and intensity should still be the same, 196 00:08:17,149 --> 00:08:18,829 Speaker 3: but you might find they're not as giant. They're more 197 00:08:18,869 --> 00:08:20,669 Speaker 3: like a whack on mum here, I am all my god, 198 00:08:20,669 --> 00:08:24,109 Speaker 3: that hurts, but not quite as huge, big rolling movements 199 00:08:24,149 --> 00:08:25,709 Speaker 3: because we don't you know, once baby's head down, we 200 00:08:25,829 --> 00:08:26,869 Speaker 3: kind of like them to stay there. 201 00:08:27,749 --> 00:08:29,669 Speaker 2: What is something we can do this week? What's on 202 00:08:29,669 --> 00:08:31,149 Speaker 2: our checklist or to do list? 203 00:08:31,469 --> 00:08:34,189 Speaker 3: Probably this time of the pregnancy is time to start 204 00:08:34,229 --> 00:08:36,789 Speaker 3: thinking about what type of anti enatal classes you'd like 205 00:08:36,829 --> 00:08:39,629 Speaker 3: to do. So we're early, obviously, got plenty of time 206 00:08:39,629 --> 00:08:42,269 Speaker 3: another fifteen weeks or so, but I think again, if 207 00:08:42,349 --> 00:08:44,789 Speaker 3: baby was to have another agenda and come a little earlier, 208 00:08:44,789 --> 00:08:46,949 Speaker 3: it's nice to have, you know, your tool kit started. 209 00:08:47,469 --> 00:08:49,509 Speaker 3: So we have lots of options. You have great things 210 00:08:49,549 --> 00:08:51,869 Speaker 3: like calm birthing classes, she birthing classes. 211 00:08:52,069 --> 00:08:53,349 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of hypno birthing. 212 00:08:53,389 --> 00:08:56,469 Speaker 3: As I've said before, all of them are strategies to 213 00:08:56,469 --> 00:08:57,509 Speaker 3: help you through your later. 214 00:08:57,549 --> 00:09:00,149 Speaker 2: What is the difference between she birthing and hypno birthing 215 00:09:00,469 --> 00:09:01,909 Speaker 2: or active birth or I mean. 216 00:09:01,789 --> 00:09:02,589 Speaker 1: They're all pretty similar. 217 00:09:02,589 --> 00:09:05,229 Speaker 3: They'll give you strategies to Actually, it's a lot of 218 00:09:05,269 --> 00:09:07,109 Speaker 3: things and it's good to chat. They give you how 219 00:09:07,149 --> 00:09:09,709 Speaker 3: to have a conversation with your medical team. Will start 220 00:09:09,749 --> 00:09:12,389 Speaker 3: thinking what you'd like for birth. What is you know, 221 00:09:12,429 --> 00:09:14,269 Speaker 3: what are your priorities in terms of pain relief, in 222 00:09:14,349 --> 00:09:16,429 Speaker 3: terms of not having an interventional birth. I mean, sometimes 223 00:09:16,429 --> 00:09:18,189 Speaker 3: we can't help it. We are going to say, do 224 00:09:18,229 --> 00:09:20,829 Speaker 3: you we recommend a cesarean for example, But you can 225 00:09:20,829 --> 00:09:22,549 Speaker 3: start thinking about what you would like your birth to 226 00:09:22,549 --> 00:09:25,069 Speaker 3: look like, and also teaching you to breathe, teaching you 227 00:09:25,149 --> 00:09:27,429 Speaker 3: about what labor is, what things to expect, What are 228 00:09:27,429 --> 00:09:29,269 Speaker 3: the scary things because you need to know them versus 229 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:31,749 Speaker 3: what are the normal things? My answer, that are not 230 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:33,949 Speaker 3: much normal about labor. It kind of is very different 231 00:09:33,949 --> 00:09:36,909 Speaker 3: for everybody, and there's lots of variations of what is 232 00:09:36,909 --> 00:09:39,909 Speaker 3: normal and what's not. But at least it arms you 233 00:09:39,949 --> 00:09:40,469 Speaker 3: with information. 234 00:09:42,789 --> 00:09:45,709 Speaker 2: My toolkit this week is actually about booking classes and 235 00:09:45,749 --> 00:09:48,269 Speaker 2: that the hospital that I will be giving birth, that 236 00:09:48,389 --> 00:09:53,549 Speaker 2: they offer newborn care, breastfeeding, early breastfeeding rate, and also 237 00:09:53,629 --> 00:09:54,469 Speaker 2: baby CPR. 238 00:09:54,909 --> 00:09:57,509 Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic, which it terrifies me. 239 00:09:57,829 --> 00:10:00,069 Speaker 2: But I would have no idea what to do if 240 00:10:00,109 --> 00:10:03,709 Speaker 2: a baby was choking or I'm not sure blue, or yeah, 241 00:10:03,709 --> 00:10:06,189 Speaker 2: if this goes into a CID's territory or something like that, 242 00:10:06,229 --> 00:10:07,149 Speaker 2: because that's just a. 243 00:10:07,109 --> 00:10:11,149 Speaker 3: Whole scary but it arms you. It's all about with information, 244 00:10:11,229 --> 00:10:12,749 Speaker 3: isn't it. So I mean I don't have that, but 245 00:10:12,789 --> 00:10:14,829 Speaker 3: I would definitely say, if you can find a first 246 00:10:14,869 --> 00:10:17,109 Speaker 3: aid course for your baby before being parents, that's fantastic. 247 00:10:17,149 --> 00:10:19,869 Speaker 1: Grandparents too. Ideally, Mmmm, that's awesome. 248 00:10:22,309 --> 00:10:24,469 Speaker 2: We hope you enjoyed this episode of Hello Bump. 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