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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea podcast. Whoever said orange is

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do it. You live

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Speaker 1: for fashion. Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear the podcast.

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Speaker 1: It solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm

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Speaker 1: Lee Campbell and this week I'm joined by Jess Leigh, model, entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: come literally straight from fashion Week head to toe in

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Speaker 1: the most amazing dress, so she's got the information hot

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Speaker 1: off the press. She's here to talk all things fashion

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Speaker 1: week with me. The looks we loved, the surprising moments

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Speaker 1: and there were a few, and what we're going to

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Speaker 1: take away from fashion week and look forward to wearing

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Speaker 1: plus in bougie and budget things we can buy right now,

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Speaker 1: amazing boots and the IT jeans of the season. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. My friend, Jess, welcome back. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for having me. Have you been on since

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Speaker 1: last fast year's Fashion Week episode? No? I don't believe so,

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Speaker 1: we're here to talk fashion week. I want you to

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Speaker 1: tell everyone. For those that don't know that don't see

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Speaker 1: you on every website like I do when I'm looking

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Speaker 1: for a bra, Who are you, what do you do

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Speaker 1: and how are you related to the world of fashion?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm Jessica Lay. I have been modeling for twenty

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're three. That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fetus no I Lee and I work together for

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Speaker 2: those that don't know, at Cosmopolitan back in the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I've worked on the journalist side. I've modeled to

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Speaker 1: And model, you know, journal content creator. You've literally been

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Speaker 1: in the industry doing it all. Yes, I think have

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Speaker 2: You've kind of been in decade, I have, I will, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I mean I definitely. I feel like there's been many

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Speaker 2: kind of it's like Rick Owen says, you just keep making,

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Speaker 2: keep making. Not that I'm going to compare myself to

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Speaker 1: Yes, will you stick because I love having you on.

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Speaker 1: You give us great insights. So in a nutshell, what

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Speaker 1: is Fashion Week Australian fashion week that happens earlier in

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Speaker 1: the year. What are they? How are they different?

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess how they would be different if you

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Speaker 2: And you know, they are a chance with the designers

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Speaker 1: that's off the runway. We've covered that. Talk to me

434
00:18:08,074 --> 00:18:10,354
Speaker 1: about Street Star. What was outside? What were all the

435
00:18:10,394 --> 00:18:13,274
Speaker 1: photographers grabbing pictures of of the people that were attending,

436
00:18:13,274 --> 00:18:13,994
Speaker 1: What were they wearing?

437
00:18:14,314 --> 00:18:16,474
Speaker 2: Well, I mean this is actually what I think is

438
00:18:17,074 --> 00:18:20,314
Speaker 2: becoming more and more the essence of Australian Fashion Week,

439
00:18:20,314 --> 00:18:24,194
Speaker 2: which is how everyone's wearing Australian fashion on the streets.

440
00:18:24,674 --> 00:18:28,273
Speaker 2: Because it's like, how are you pairing that sculptural mattachevski

441
00:18:28,394 --> 00:18:31,354
Speaker 2: with denim? You know, Like how are you wearing like

442
00:18:31,434 --> 00:18:34,553
Speaker 2: a Colors and Patty pair of trousers with you know,

443
00:18:34,594 --> 00:18:37,714
Speaker 2: pairing it with all different things? Because it's everyone's personality

444
00:18:37,834 --> 00:18:39,394
Speaker 2: is coming through their clothing.

445
00:18:39,714 --> 00:18:41,434
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at fashion weeks that have curved overseas,

446
00:18:41,594 --> 00:18:43,154
Speaker 1: where do you look what are you looking for? Do

447
00:18:43,194 --> 00:18:44,754
Speaker 1: you look at runway or do you look at Street Star.

448
00:18:44,914 --> 00:18:47,394
Speaker 1: I look at streets, look at street style, you know,

449
00:18:47,434 --> 00:18:49,394
Speaker 1: and we both in part have to look at that

450
00:18:49,394 --> 00:18:51,394
Speaker 1: stuff for our work, But I go straight to Street

451
00:18:51,394 --> 00:18:52,914
Speaker 1: Star instead of the runways.

452
00:18:53,154 --> 00:18:56,073
Speaker 2: Well, I mean unless it's like couture, you know, and

453
00:18:56,114 --> 00:18:58,714
Speaker 2: it's it's how the brand intends you to wear that,

454
00:18:59,074 --> 00:19:02,593
Speaker 2: you know, exactly kind of as is, which I'm not

455
00:19:02,634 --> 00:19:05,474
Speaker 2: a cutural wearer. I mean today would suggest different, but

456
00:19:05,514 --> 00:19:07,994
Speaker 2: I came from a luncheon to time to change.

457
00:19:07,754 --> 00:19:09,354
Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about economy later. But I

458
00:19:09,434 --> 00:19:10,394
Speaker 1: just don't have the budget for it.

459
00:19:10,474 --> 00:19:13,033
Speaker 2: Well that's exactly right. But then again, speaking of budget

460
00:19:13,034 --> 00:19:14,553
Speaker 2: when it comes to street style is like, how are

461
00:19:14,594 --> 00:19:17,714
Speaker 2: you going to make your investment pieces, which is low

462
00:19:17,754 --> 00:19:21,234
Speaker 2: key just your expensive you know, things that you spledged on. Yeah,

463
00:19:21,554 --> 00:19:23,234
Speaker 2: I want to show me get your cost per wear

464
00:19:23,354 --> 00:19:25,394
Speaker 2: out of them, you know, And so you need to

465
00:19:25,474 --> 00:19:27,874
Speaker 2: kind of look at other people, I think for their inspiration,

466
00:19:28,154 --> 00:19:30,874
Speaker 2: and like you're seeing people wear gorgeous velvet dresses over

467
00:19:30,914 --> 00:19:32,954
Speaker 2: their jeans or you know, and then like a nice

468
00:19:32,994 --> 00:19:36,313
Speaker 2: pointy heel or bit or how are you going to

469
00:19:36,314 --> 00:19:39,754
Speaker 2: get those boots that you spludged on to translate into

470
00:19:40,114 --> 00:19:41,874
Speaker 2: some nice more outfits Exactly.

471
00:19:42,034 --> 00:19:43,794
Speaker 1: I love looking at street style, I just think because

472
00:19:43,794 --> 00:19:45,514
Speaker 1: obviously we're there for the shows and it's so great

473
00:19:45,514 --> 00:19:47,833
Speaker 1: to see and support the designers. But it's just a

474
00:19:47,834 --> 00:19:49,794
Speaker 1: feast for the eyes because people are put in a

475
00:19:49,834 --> 00:19:51,674
Speaker 1: lot of effort. They want to look different, and so

476
00:19:51,714 --> 00:19:54,834
Speaker 1: there's just so many outfits and combinations and like you say,

477
00:19:54,954 --> 00:19:57,554
Speaker 1: inspiration for oh, I've got similar boots, I've got a

478
00:19:57,594 --> 00:19:59,874
Speaker 1: similar jacket. I could do that. You don't need to

479
00:19:59,914 --> 00:20:01,674
Speaker 1: be an attendee to see the street style and be

480
00:20:01,754 --> 00:20:03,914
Speaker 1: inspired by it. So I think for me that's the

481
00:20:03,914 --> 00:20:05,553
Speaker 1: most enjoyable part. No, totally.

482
00:20:05,634 --> 00:20:08,234
Speaker 2: And you know what the other thing is is I

483
00:20:08,234 --> 00:20:10,994
Speaker 2: feel like Australia now has a lot more confidence with

484
00:20:11,034 --> 00:20:13,074
Speaker 2: their street style, and I think that is because of

485
00:20:13,114 --> 00:20:16,154
Speaker 2: social media and like that exposure. I mean I used

486
00:20:16,154 --> 00:20:18,194
Speaker 2: to and you might have been very similar because we

487
00:20:18,194 --> 00:20:21,314
Speaker 2: were mad girls. We were around people who dressed very

488
00:20:21,314 --> 00:20:25,194
Speaker 2: outlandishly and you know, had that kind of individuality yard

489
00:20:25,354 --> 00:20:27,994
Speaker 2: styles just for their every day and you know you

490
00:20:28,074 --> 00:20:30,914
Speaker 2: had women in your office dressing because they were in

491
00:20:30,954 --> 00:20:33,754
Speaker 2: that kind of like fashion world. So it wasn't shocking

492
00:20:33,794 --> 00:20:36,634
Speaker 2: for me to see someone wear like a high amazing

493
00:20:36,674 --> 00:20:37,434
Speaker 2: collar or like.

494
00:20:37,394 --> 00:20:40,434
Speaker 1: To to yes something just in yeah exactly.

495
00:20:40,914 --> 00:20:43,954
Speaker 2: And so I feel like I then it translated onto

496
00:20:43,994 --> 00:20:45,594
Speaker 2: me and I would wear something that was a bit

497
00:20:45,594 --> 00:20:47,513
Speaker 2: more outlandish. And the looks that you get walk right

498
00:20:47,514 --> 00:20:49,553
Speaker 2: down the street. You just had to think, well, you know,

499
00:20:49,634 --> 00:20:51,394
Speaker 2: and give less fucks.

500
00:20:51,514 --> 00:20:53,714
Speaker 1: Or you'd go to brunch with your non industry friends

501
00:20:53,714 --> 00:20:55,954
Speaker 1: and they'd be like what You're like, oh oh, that's

502
00:20:55,954 --> 00:20:56,994
Speaker 1: a different world.

503
00:20:56,714 --> 00:20:58,834
Speaker 2: Totally, and they would think that you were a free

504
00:20:58,954 --> 00:21:01,554
Speaker 2: And now it's like Australia is just so much better

505
00:21:01,594 --> 00:21:01,833
Speaker 2: at that.

506
00:21:01,874 --> 00:21:02,074
Speaker 1: Now.

507
00:21:02,114 --> 00:21:04,513
Speaker 2: I feel maybe it's you know, me personally, but I

508
00:21:04,594 --> 00:21:07,194
Speaker 2: just feel a lot less self conscious. I think that

509
00:21:07,234 --> 00:21:10,474
Speaker 2: they're finally as a general public, we're getting it. We're like, okay,

510
00:21:10,474 --> 00:21:12,914
Speaker 2: that's a fashion thing. I don't understand it, but you

511
00:21:12,954 --> 00:21:13,354
Speaker 2: go for it.

512
00:21:13,314 --> 00:21:15,634
Speaker 1: And it's individual. You can go to the shops and think, gosh,

513
00:21:15,674 --> 00:21:17,834
Speaker 1: everything is same same, see which it is, but then

514
00:21:18,474 --> 00:21:20,273
Speaker 1: it's how you wear it, or it's people stepping out

515
00:21:20,274 --> 00:21:21,674
Speaker 1: of that and going actually, no, I'm just going to

516
00:21:21,714 --> 00:21:23,594
Speaker 1: look like me. And it may not be the trend

517
00:21:23,634 --> 00:21:25,394
Speaker 1: or over TikTok at the moment, but I really like that.

518
00:21:25,594 --> 00:21:27,353
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one's I mean, you know, I think that

519
00:21:27,434 --> 00:21:30,794
Speaker 2: whole moment with like that minimize nineties dressing. It it

520
00:21:30,874 --> 00:21:34,793
Speaker 2: still is there, but people are also really embracing like

521
00:21:34,914 --> 00:21:36,754
Speaker 2: this non mannequin style dressing.

522
00:21:36,914 --> 00:21:39,354
Speaker 1: You know that individuality me too. I love that because

523
00:21:39,354 --> 00:21:41,274
Speaker 1: it gives me more permission or give everyone more permission

524
00:21:41,274 --> 00:21:43,194
Speaker 1: to just go Okay, I'm going to go back into

525
00:21:43,194 --> 00:21:45,074
Speaker 1: my wardrobe and dig out old stuff. It feels like

526
00:21:45,074 --> 00:21:47,234
Speaker 1: the street Star we've been seeing, especially you know, Copenhagen

527
00:21:47,274 --> 00:21:49,754
Speaker 1: and overseas is just like I have got versions of that.

528
00:21:49,794 --> 00:21:51,273
Speaker 1: I do not need to go to the shops and

529
00:21:51,314 --> 00:21:54,754
Speaker 1: I can just reinvent my wardrobe, which in this economy

530
00:21:55,114 --> 00:21:57,954
Speaker 1: is important. Okay, So speaking of the economy, I'm excited

531
00:21:57,954 --> 00:21:59,514
Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts on this. You're not an economist.

532
00:21:59,554 --> 00:22:01,194
Speaker 1: Apparently you're not an economist.

533
00:22:01,234 --> 00:22:04,474
Speaker 2: For me, terified that anyone who's like you know, in

534
00:22:04,474 --> 00:22:05,954
Speaker 2: the Treasury Department is actually.

535
00:22:05,674 --> 00:22:08,874
Speaker 1: Going to call me. Do you have very educated opinions

536
00:22:08,874 --> 00:22:11,234
Speaker 1: on fashion? So we were talking off air about how

537
00:22:11,314 --> 00:22:14,154
Speaker 1: fashion and it relates directly to where the world's at.

538
00:22:14,194 --> 00:22:17,714
Speaker 1: So the economy is a bit not great, you know,

539
00:22:17,754 --> 00:22:20,074
Speaker 1: globally in Australia we've just had the budget released. The

540
00:22:20,194 --> 00:22:22,994
Speaker 1: landscape financially is a bit bleak. So tell me how

541
00:22:23,034 --> 00:22:25,834
Speaker 1: you think what that means full fashion for the next

542
00:22:25,834 --> 00:22:26,314
Speaker 1: in a while.

543
00:22:26,594 --> 00:22:29,634
Speaker 2: Fashion, I think people need to remember, is a multi

544
00:22:29,754 --> 00:22:34,273
Speaker 2: trillion dollar business globally, you know, And I feel like

545
00:22:34,514 --> 00:22:38,114
Speaker 2: people need to realize that it is one business where

546
00:22:38,834 --> 00:22:44,714
Speaker 2: politics and personal psychees really are intersecting. You know, there

547
00:22:44,874 --> 00:22:49,114
Speaker 2: is a place where and it's intersecting on your person.

548
00:22:49,154 --> 00:22:52,474
Speaker 1: Your body has so true, and that doesn't happen in

549
00:22:52,514 --> 00:22:54,634
Speaker 1: a lot of spaces. Yeah, it's like the left side

550
00:22:54,634 --> 00:22:55,874
Speaker 1: of the brain and the right side of brain, and

551
00:22:55,954 --> 00:22:57,354
Speaker 1: literally you're wearing.

552
00:22:57,114 --> 00:22:59,154
Speaker 2: Both totally, and if you can like recall, and it's

553
00:22:59,234 --> 00:23:01,474
Speaker 2: very like prominent right now. But like you know, that

554
00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:03,594
Speaker 2: whole devil we was prout of speech that Meryl Street's

555
00:23:03,794 --> 00:23:06,394
Speaker 2: you know, Miranda Priestley gives about the Cerrillian sweater being

556
00:23:06,434 --> 00:23:09,314
Speaker 2: like this trickle down effect people making decisions in various

557
00:23:09,314 --> 00:23:11,074
Speaker 2: different rooms and then all of a sudden you're fishing

558
00:23:11,074 --> 00:23:13,954
Speaker 2: it out of it. It is so true, like what

559
00:23:14,154 --> 00:23:16,834
Speaker 2: is delivered to you is often like a reflection of

560
00:23:16,834 --> 00:23:19,754
Speaker 2: what's actually happening in the world, because fashion is political,

561
00:23:20,074 --> 00:23:22,194
Speaker 2: Like whether you want to believe it or not, it

562
00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:25,834
Speaker 2: really is. And so for us to dismiss it as

563
00:23:25,834 --> 00:23:30,194
Speaker 2: this like frivolous space that just sits alone is really

564
00:23:30,634 --> 00:23:34,313
Speaker 2: kind of stupid because there's so many recession indicators that

565
00:23:34,394 --> 00:23:35,594
Speaker 2: exist within fashion.

566
00:23:35,714 --> 00:23:38,034
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so true. It's so true. And for you,

567
00:23:38,074 --> 00:23:40,194
Speaker 1: what do you think, you know, if we're in a

568
00:23:40,194 --> 00:23:41,754
Speaker 1: recession or not are about to go into it? I mean,

569
00:23:41,794 --> 00:23:43,194
Speaker 1: I have my own opinions, but what do you think

570
00:23:43,354 --> 00:23:46,154
Speaker 1: happens to what we wear or what we buy when

571
00:23:46,274 --> 00:23:47,194
Speaker 1: the world's a bit like this.

572
00:23:47,474 --> 00:23:50,954
Speaker 2: So there's this really famous example of a recession indicator,

573
00:23:50,994 --> 00:23:54,834
Speaker 2: which is the Lipstick Index, which is Leonard Lauder, who

574
00:23:55,074 --> 00:23:58,754
Speaker 2: used to be the executive at Essay Lader, and this

575
00:23:58,794 --> 00:24:01,273
Speaker 2: is post nine to eleven. So basically that's when that

576
00:24:01,354 --> 00:24:03,313
Speaker 2: recession happened and the world was sort of like in

577
00:24:03,354 --> 00:24:06,994
Speaker 2: this global turmoil and things were very you know, tough.

578
00:24:06,794 --> 00:24:07,674
Speaker 1: For a lot of people.

579
00:24:08,194 --> 00:24:11,234
Speaker 2: And at that time, people still wanted a little taste

580
00:24:11,234 --> 00:24:12,714
Speaker 2: of luxury, but they weren't going to go out and

581
00:24:12,714 --> 00:24:16,073
Speaker 2: buy like, you know, thousands of dollars worth of handbags

582
00:24:16,114 --> 00:24:18,634
Speaker 2: and shoes and jackets and whatever. But they still wanted

583
00:24:18,634 --> 00:24:20,994
Speaker 2: their little taste of luxury. And then they go ahead

584
00:24:21,034 --> 00:24:23,634
Speaker 2: and they buy a lipstick, and it's something that like,

585
00:24:23,714 --> 00:24:25,594
Speaker 2: you know, if you can persuade people to buy a

586
00:24:25,714 --> 00:24:30,474
Speaker 2: sixty nine dollar lippy, yes, rather than a sixteen hundred

587
00:24:30,514 --> 00:24:33,194
Speaker 2: dollar bag, you know, that adds up to keep your

588
00:24:33,194 --> 00:24:37,754
Speaker 2: business afloat, and it's often these luxury brands do kind

589
00:24:37,794 --> 00:24:39,434
Speaker 2: of run off accessories.

590
00:24:39,514 --> 00:24:41,434
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in a lot of ways, you know. And

591
00:24:41,474 --> 00:24:42,793
Speaker 1: I can relate to that too. I mean, we've got

592
00:24:42,834 --> 00:24:44,474
Speaker 1: this kind of in joke here that we talk about

593
00:24:44,474 --> 00:24:45,914
Speaker 1: a lot of the podcasts like a little treat, and

594
00:24:45,914 --> 00:24:48,194
Speaker 1: it's sometimes like everything's harder, just want a little treat.

595
00:24:48,354 --> 00:24:51,073
Speaker 1: And it's not about spending irresponsibly, but it's just about

596
00:24:51,474 --> 00:24:53,434
Speaker 1: bringing some joy to yourself where you're just like, I'm

597
00:24:53,474 --> 00:24:55,314
Speaker 1: going to buy that little thing that might be a lipstick,

598
00:24:55,394 --> 00:24:57,553
Speaker 1: or it might be you know, a pair of thongs.

599
00:24:57,634 --> 00:24:59,074
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. But it's just like

600
00:24:59,234 --> 00:25:02,754
Speaker 1: some control when the world's out of control, and some buying.

601
00:25:02,994 --> 00:25:06,194
Speaker 1: You're buying feeling you're buying some hope when everything else

602
00:25:06,234 --> 00:25:07,994
Speaker 1: is so bleak, buying a little bit of hope.

603
00:25:08,034 --> 00:25:09,834
Speaker 2: And a lot of people do that. Yeah, and it

604
00:25:09,874 --> 00:25:11,794
Speaker 2: is it feels really good. And you know, there's a

605
00:25:11,834 --> 00:25:13,434
Speaker 2: reason why retail therapy it does work.

606
00:25:13,474 --> 00:25:15,154
Speaker 1: It's a real funny call it. Yeah, as long as

607
00:25:15,234 --> 00:25:16,954
Speaker 1: I go crazy and get into any debt, but yeah,

608
00:25:16,994 --> 00:25:17,754
Speaker 1: you know.

609
00:25:17,954 --> 00:25:19,914
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do need to have like, you know, some

610
00:25:19,954 --> 00:25:21,834
Speaker 2: self control. But at the end of the day, like

611
00:25:21,834 --> 00:25:25,354
Speaker 2: it's something that's been used for you know, like Chanelle Croque,

612
00:25:25,434 --> 00:25:29,274
Speaker 2: Chanelle she launched Chanelle number five has kept that company afloat, yeah,

613
00:25:29,354 --> 00:25:32,474
Speaker 2: post World War, and she needed something where people were

614
00:25:32,514 --> 00:25:35,594
Speaker 2: going to just purchase, you know, that nominal amount.

615
00:25:35,634 --> 00:25:37,714
Speaker 1: For that rate of luxury, because it's clever when I

616
00:25:37,754 --> 00:25:40,194
Speaker 1: think a big fashion house or fashion brand does a

617
00:25:40,194 --> 00:25:42,234
Speaker 1: bit of beauty because that runs out and it's still

618
00:25:42,234 --> 00:25:44,594
Speaker 1: a status symbol and what fragrance. You're like, oh, Chanelle,

619
00:25:44,594 --> 00:25:46,674
Speaker 1: you know you're not buying the tweed jacket. But it's

620
00:25:46,754 --> 00:25:49,554
Speaker 1: keeping those brands able to do these high end coture

621
00:25:49,674 --> 00:25:51,833
Speaker 1: or fashion moments because they've got the money coming in

622
00:25:51,874 --> 00:25:53,674
Speaker 1: from an economic standpoint. Yeah.

623
00:25:53,674 --> 00:25:55,714
Speaker 2: And also it's replenishable, you know what I mean. So

624
00:25:55,754 --> 00:25:59,154
Speaker 2: you're not going to have ten, you know, the same handbag,

625
00:25:59,194 --> 00:26:01,074
Speaker 2: but you're going to definitely like you know, want to.

626
00:26:01,114 --> 00:26:02,114
Speaker 1: Have your signature send.

627
00:26:02,234 --> 00:26:04,114
Speaker 2: It's so true, and you know it's not just in

628
00:26:04,154 --> 00:26:06,833
Speaker 2: these like kind of minor luxury purchases. It's also like

629
00:26:07,154 --> 00:26:09,834
Speaker 2: black is often a little bit of an indicator of

630
00:26:10,514 --> 00:26:13,114
Speaker 2: the economy and where it's at because people need and

631
00:26:13,394 --> 00:26:16,794
Speaker 2: also much more functional wears and things that you can

632
00:26:16,794 --> 00:26:19,354
Speaker 2: wear high to low. You know, if we're talking about

633
00:26:19,394 --> 00:26:21,513
Speaker 2: Australian Fashion Week, you know there was a lot of

634
00:26:21,554 --> 00:26:24,154
Speaker 2: cropped trenches and crop jackets and things like that.

635
00:26:24,194 --> 00:26:25,554
Speaker 1: And I guess that's because.

636
00:26:25,514 --> 00:26:28,394
Speaker 2: You know, partly our world has changed somewhat since COVID,

637
00:26:28,434 --> 00:26:31,034
Speaker 2: where not everyone's going to the city every single day,

638
00:26:31,314 --> 00:26:33,353
Speaker 2: you know, having to leave for the day in their

639
00:26:33,434 --> 00:26:34,954
Speaker 2: jacket and like it's going to have to get you

640
00:26:35,074 --> 00:26:36,394
Speaker 2: from six till six, yes.

641
00:26:36,274 --> 00:26:37,914
Speaker 1: Or having you know, they're sneakers in their bag and

642
00:26:37,954 --> 00:26:39,634
Speaker 1: they change on the train into their heels. I think

643
00:26:39,674 --> 00:26:40,834
Speaker 1: things are a lot more versatile.

644
00:26:40,954 --> 00:26:43,914
Speaker 2: People aren't going to buy something now that you can't wear,

645
00:26:44,194 --> 00:26:46,714
Speaker 2: you know at your kids soccer game, yes, and then

646
00:26:46,794 --> 00:26:49,194
Speaker 2: also go where to work and then also be able

647
00:26:49,194 --> 00:26:51,194
Speaker 2: to wear it to like a fancy brunch. You know,

648
00:26:51,234 --> 00:26:53,234
Speaker 2: you need to have that versatility and the fact.

649
00:26:53,074 --> 00:26:56,074
Speaker 1: Of black I've noticed that I think is that brands

650
00:26:56,074 --> 00:26:57,954
Speaker 1: and retailers do play it safe because they're like people

651
00:26:57,954 --> 00:26:59,513
Speaker 1: want to mix and match. They're not going to go

652
00:26:59,554 --> 00:27:01,754
Speaker 1: buy that bright green jacket. I mean there's still I mean,

653
00:27:01,794 --> 00:27:03,594
Speaker 1: I think on the on the flip side, there's still

654
00:27:03,594 --> 00:27:07,033
Speaker 1: that maximalism trend that I'm loving, but as a purchaser,

655
00:27:07,234 --> 00:27:10,553
Speaker 1: as a customer, I'm not buying anything extremely outlandish at

656
00:27:10,554 --> 00:27:10,914
Speaker 1: the moment.

657
00:27:11,074 --> 00:27:13,154
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, So, and it just goes back to say,

658
00:27:13,194 --> 00:27:15,914
Speaker 2: like closer, never just close, you know, and if you're

659
00:27:15,914 --> 00:27:18,194
Speaker 2: seeing like things on the runway all of a sudden

660
00:27:18,314 --> 00:27:21,074
Speaker 2: go real black. After nine to eleven, again they did

661
00:27:21,234 --> 00:27:24,273
Speaker 2: a lot more military style, a lot more patriotic.

662
00:27:24,194 --> 00:27:27,674
Speaker 1: You know, do you remember, but literal y Yeah, And it.

663
00:27:27,634 --> 00:27:30,513
Speaker 2: Was because it is it is political. It's reflective of

664
00:27:30,634 --> 00:27:34,234
Speaker 2: where the world isn't at that time. And I think

665
00:27:34,354 --> 00:27:36,594
Speaker 2: you have to really notice, like if you're seeing things

666
00:27:36,594 --> 00:27:38,794
Speaker 2: on the runway that trickle down and all of a

667
00:27:38,834 --> 00:27:42,033
Speaker 2: sudden everyone's walking around with like holsters or.

668
00:27:43,554 --> 00:27:49,434
Speaker 1: Like aviators, start digging your bunker. Yeah, it's very true.

669
00:27:49,794 --> 00:27:51,754
Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to from fashion week that

670
00:27:51,754 --> 00:27:54,313
Speaker 1: you've seen it's coming, or just fashion in general? What

671
00:27:54,354 --> 00:27:56,273
Speaker 1: are you excited by? I mean, as black excite you,

672
00:27:56,714 --> 00:27:57,354
Speaker 1: I think so.

673
00:27:57,474 --> 00:28:00,714
Speaker 2: I mean I'm really excited by just like we are

674
00:28:00,794 --> 00:28:03,434
Speaker 2: in the future right now, you know me. I just

675
00:28:03,474 --> 00:28:05,874
Speaker 2: feel like we are kind of, you know, going back

676
00:28:05,914 --> 00:28:08,353
Speaker 2: to all the old movies we watched when we were

677
00:28:08,434 --> 00:28:11,114
Speaker 2: kids and you see how they what they were wearing,

678
00:28:11,234 --> 00:28:13,114
Speaker 2: and it's like now it's kind of moved into that

679
00:28:13,154 --> 00:28:15,594
Speaker 2: space I don't really love. Like sometimes it gets a

680
00:28:15,634 --> 00:28:19,074
Speaker 2: little bit too costume me and it's all games vibes.

681
00:28:18,754 --> 00:28:20,634
Speaker 1: Like oh, I look like I'm going to a rodeo.

682
00:28:20,674 --> 00:28:22,674
Speaker 1: You know. I think that's the tricky part. I mean,

683
00:28:22,714 --> 00:28:24,354
Speaker 1: I guess with AI, it's here whether we like it

684
00:28:24,434 --> 00:28:26,593
Speaker 1: or not. I mostly use my II to find items

685
00:28:26,634 --> 00:28:29,194
Speaker 1: on sale. I'll go, I want those a guys, find

686
00:28:29,234 --> 00:28:30,834
Speaker 1: me them, and I'm like, great, that's sponsor. But I

687
00:28:30,834 --> 00:28:32,914
Speaker 1: know that's not the most reduced price. Find me more,

688
00:28:32,914 --> 00:28:33,353
Speaker 1: find me well.

689
00:28:33,354 --> 00:28:35,554
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's how you're using it as a tool, right.

690
00:28:35,594 --> 00:28:37,434
Speaker 2: And the thing is is if you become someone who

691
00:28:37,474 --> 00:28:41,434
Speaker 2: isn't going to acknowledge and embrace the usage of an

692
00:28:41,474 --> 00:28:43,674
Speaker 2: AI tool to make your life easier, it's like you

693
00:28:43,714 --> 00:28:46,634
Speaker 2: walk around with oe exactly. Like it's like you being like, no,

694
00:28:46,674 --> 00:28:48,874
Speaker 2: I don't have an iPhone all wantn't you go and

695
00:28:48,914 --> 00:28:51,994
Speaker 2: live in a hut because you're just not relevant to well,

696
00:28:52,434 --> 00:28:54,274
Speaker 2: and so you have to move with the technology.

697
00:28:54,274 --> 00:28:56,954
Speaker 1: And the future is here. It is how we view

698
00:28:56,994 --> 00:28:57,714
Speaker 1: it and use it.

699
00:28:57,714 --> 00:28:59,394
Speaker 2: It is but we need to get a little bit

700
00:28:59,434 --> 00:29:01,194
Speaker 2: altruistic about who's controlling it.

701
00:29:01,234 --> 00:29:03,074
Speaker 1: I agree. We don't want them to do with my

702
00:29:03,074 --> 00:29:05,914
Speaker 1: tin hat on. We don't want to be replacing you

703
00:29:05,954 --> 00:29:08,354
Speaker 1: as a model of me as a journal. So just

704
00:29:08,474 --> 00:29:10,514
Speaker 1: ask your AI for the best sale price. That's all

705
00:29:10,554 --> 00:29:14,074
Speaker 1: we know. Endorse, we need to endorse, like certain usages. No,

706
00:29:14,154 --> 00:29:14,634
Speaker 1: but it is.

707
00:29:14,714 --> 00:29:16,354
Speaker 2: It's here, and I think it's just the way that

708
00:29:16,394 --> 00:29:18,354
Speaker 2: we use it that's going to be really interesting. And

709
00:29:18,674 --> 00:29:21,034
Speaker 2: you can see the cues and the clues that are

710
00:29:21,034 --> 00:29:22,874
Speaker 2: happening on the runways if you look close enough.

711
00:29:22,914 --> 00:29:25,074
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm scared. Okay, Well, speaking of using

712
00:29:25,074 --> 00:29:28,314
Speaker 1: AI to bring you, well, I am because it's here anyway,

713
00:29:28,354 --> 00:29:31,074
Speaker 1: and I do like getting a bargain. Yes, speaking of so,

714
00:29:31,114 --> 00:29:33,514
Speaker 1: how do you think the current state of our economy?

715
00:29:33,514 --> 00:29:36,554
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I sound like I'm on them. How

716
00:29:36,594 --> 00:29:38,594
Speaker 1: do you think the current state of the economy was

717
00:29:38,634 --> 00:29:40,594
Speaker 1: reflected at Fashion Week? What did you pick up on that?

718
00:29:40,634 --> 00:29:41,434
Speaker 1: Maybe other students?

719
00:29:41,554 --> 00:29:44,994
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, I feel like despite my outfit today,

720
00:29:45,794 --> 00:29:48,714
Speaker 2: it was it was a little bit more conservative, you know,

721
00:29:49,114 --> 00:29:52,834
Speaker 2: it was a bit safe and the collars were higher.

722
00:29:53,154 --> 00:29:57,634
Speaker 2: There was a lot more conservative hemlines things like that.

723
00:29:57,794 --> 00:30:02,354
Speaker 2: It was not over extravagance and I absolutely loathe that

724
00:30:02,394 --> 00:30:04,554
Speaker 2: I'm even going to say this, but it was like stealthy,

725
00:30:04,594 --> 00:30:05,954
Speaker 2: wealthy kind of vibes.

726
00:30:06,034 --> 00:30:06,194
Speaker 1: You know.

727
00:30:06,794 --> 00:30:09,674
Speaker 2: There was a huge amount of like slogans and everything

728
00:30:09,674 --> 00:30:12,394
Speaker 2: happening like that. So it was a wardrobe that I

729
00:30:12,394 --> 00:30:15,954
Speaker 2: think you can really mix and match between different pieces.

730
00:30:16,554 --> 00:30:18,314
Speaker 2: Like I said, like everything kind of had to have

731
00:30:18,394 --> 00:30:22,234
Speaker 2: a multi use for what you were purchasing, because people

732
00:30:22,314 --> 00:30:24,074
Speaker 2: need to have bang for their buck and their cost

733
00:30:24,114 --> 00:30:24,434
Speaker 2: per war.

734
00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:26,074
Speaker 1: They're considering where they put their dollar more and if

735
00:30:26,074 --> 00:30:27,714
Speaker 1: they can wear it more, if it's insafe for colors

736
00:30:27,754 --> 00:30:29,514
Speaker 1: or shapes, they'll get more out of it. Yeah.

737
00:30:29,514 --> 00:30:32,394
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think as well, like I feel like

738
00:30:32,474 --> 00:30:35,794
Speaker 2: I saw a lot more room for vintage inclusions within

739
00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:36,794
Speaker 2: your own wardrobe.

740
00:30:37,114 --> 00:30:37,354
Speaker 1: Yeah.

741
00:30:37,394 --> 00:30:39,954
Speaker 2: So I feel like I saw things where people weren't

742
00:30:40,354 --> 00:30:42,874
Speaker 2: necessarily going to buy like the jacket and the pant

743
00:30:43,114 --> 00:30:45,794
Speaker 2: or the whole entire fit, but they were going to

744
00:30:45,834 --> 00:30:47,234
Speaker 2: be able to buy like one or two of the

745
00:30:47,274 --> 00:30:48,874
Speaker 2: pieces and then mix and match.

746
00:30:48,754 --> 00:30:51,274
Speaker 1: Love it with your wardrobe or go thrifting. Yeah. So

747
00:30:51,354 --> 00:30:53,514
Speaker 1: coming up after the break booty to budget and stuff

748
00:30:53,514 --> 00:30:55,874
Speaker 1: that people can actually buy now because they can't buy

749
00:30:56,074 --> 00:30:59,554
Speaker 1: fashion week. And you think that your item is going

750
00:30:59,594 --> 00:31:02,394
Speaker 1: to get us through any economic situation. I can't wait

751
00:31:02,434 --> 00:31:20,874
Speaker 1: to hear it. Okay, so jess let's get into bootian

752
00:31:20,914 --> 00:31:27,074
Speaker 1: budget is one item, three different versions, three different price points. Jessica, boots.

753
00:31:27,194 --> 00:31:30,634
Speaker 1: Why are boots good for our economy? And what's going

754
00:31:30,674 --> 00:31:33,274
Speaker 1: on for us right now? I need to hear this.

755
00:31:33,594 --> 00:31:35,354
Speaker 2: I just need one person to back me up with

756
00:31:35,434 --> 00:31:37,274
Speaker 2: everything that I say, just because then it's.

757
00:31:37,354 --> 00:31:41,154
Speaker 1: I believe everything he reviewed, it's he reviewed.

758
00:31:41,634 --> 00:31:44,674
Speaker 2: Boots are something that I do consider no matter what

759
00:31:44,714 --> 00:31:45,554
Speaker 2: an investment piece.

760
00:31:45,674 --> 00:31:45,834
Speaker 1: You know.

761
00:31:45,994 --> 00:31:49,434
Speaker 2: My budget, yes, is just your good old classic ug.

762
00:31:49,994 --> 00:31:52,714
Speaker 2: Oh you know, but it's got a platform.

763
00:31:52,594 --> 00:31:53,994
Speaker 1: There we're wearing them outside.

764
00:31:54,034 --> 00:31:56,514
Speaker 2: These well, I feel like these ones all endorse and

765
00:31:56,594 --> 00:32:01,074
Speaker 2: allow an outside weary but not outside your postcode. Okay,

766
00:32:01,794 --> 00:32:05,034
Speaker 2: outside only rule for it. Yeah, right to the local shop.

767
00:32:05,074 --> 00:32:06,474
Speaker 2: You can go to the post office.

768
00:32:06,554 --> 00:32:09,794
Speaker 1: These are your classic ultra mini platform ugs.

769
00:32:10,434 --> 00:32:12,154
Speaker 2: I think there are one hundred and ten bucks, which

770
00:32:12,194 --> 00:32:14,354
Speaker 2: I you know, it's going to get you through many winters. Yes,

771
00:32:14,394 --> 00:32:15,674
Speaker 2: and we need to be warm. We need to be

772
00:32:15,754 --> 00:32:19,874
Speaker 2: cozy because we're inside, you know, not spending money.

773
00:32:19,954 --> 00:32:22,234
Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on to your second pair of boots.

774
00:32:22,474 --> 00:32:25,434
Speaker 2: The second pair is an Australian brand, which I love

775
00:32:25,554 --> 00:32:27,594
Speaker 2: very much, and I feel like I'm going to say

776
00:32:27,634 --> 00:32:29,634
Speaker 2: these are my mid but they are a little bit

777
00:32:29,634 --> 00:32:32,314
Speaker 2: of an investment to please sense. Yeah they are, and

778
00:32:32,394 --> 00:32:33,874
Speaker 2: I feel like your cost per wear on these are great.

779
00:32:33,914 --> 00:32:35,314
Speaker 2: How many times are going to save cost per wear?

780
00:32:35,394 --> 00:32:39,354
Speaker 1: Just tell us what, lady? It is the bed Mino

781
00:32:39,514 --> 00:32:43,554
Speaker 1: stud boots. Okay, bed you can actually run away from baddies, Like,

782
00:32:43,634 --> 00:32:45,554
Speaker 1: I don't know, we're living in the future. The economy

783
00:32:45,594 --> 00:32:46,714
Speaker 1: is bad. I feel like we've got a lot of

784
00:32:46,794 --> 00:32:48,954
Speaker 1: running to do. Bed Are Like, is it a p

785
00:32:49,074 --> 00:32:49,834
Speaker 1: diatress brand?

786
00:32:49,914 --> 00:32:53,154
Speaker 2: Yes, so there was founded by a pediatress and so

787
00:32:53,154 --> 00:32:55,394
Speaker 2: she's acknowledged founder of the brand. I actually went to

788
00:32:55,434 --> 00:32:58,354
Speaker 2: a lunch of hers recently and she acknowledged. Look, early days,

789
00:32:58,354 --> 00:33:00,474
Speaker 2: she was just trying to create shoes that were actually

790
00:33:00,554 --> 00:33:02,914
Speaker 2: performative for your feet. And now they've had a massive

791
00:33:02,914 --> 00:33:05,754
Speaker 2: blow up. And Meryl Streep actually wore these particular boots

792
00:33:06,074 --> 00:33:07,754
Speaker 2: to the premiere at.

793
00:33:07,714 --> 00:33:10,994
Speaker 1: Gumblewez brother she's a comfyguw yes, so yeah, I mean

794
00:33:11,034 --> 00:33:14,434
Speaker 1: she's she's like seventy odds, but I'm sorry. We all

795
00:33:14,434 --> 00:33:16,354
Speaker 1: want comfort and them to look pretty good.

796
00:33:16,514 --> 00:33:18,274
Speaker 2: Yes, and so I feel like, you know, and your

797
00:33:18,314 --> 00:33:20,954
Speaker 2: feet really day and day out needs support.

798
00:33:21,154 --> 00:33:24,154
Speaker 1: So and for my mag world where I wore stilettos

799
00:33:24,194 --> 00:33:26,794
Speaker 1: for a decade, I've never recovered my feet about my

800
00:33:26,834 --> 00:33:29,674
Speaker 1: back is bad, Like guys, comfort and style. So what

801
00:33:29,674 --> 00:33:30,234
Speaker 1: do they look like?

802
00:33:30,434 --> 00:33:32,874
Speaker 2: They're basically just your classic kind of boot shape and

803
00:33:33,154 --> 00:33:35,994
Speaker 2: kind of you know, little ankle here. But yeah, the

804
00:33:36,074 --> 00:33:38,514
Speaker 2: heel is you know what, the heel is quite significant,

805
00:33:38,514 --> 00:33:39,554
Speaker 2: but it doesn't feel like that when.

806
00:33:39,474 --> 00:33:41,314
Speaker 1: You've got them mine. It's a block here on Yes, love,

807
00:33:41,474 --> 00:33:42,194
Speaker 1: She's great.

808
00:33:41,994 --> 00:33:44,914
Speaker 2: And they're just like that nice little like Incline love it,

809
00:33:44,914 --> 00:33:45,554
Speaker 2: which is great.

810
00:33:45,674 --> 00:33:48,674
Speaker 1: And also the studs on the outside just give a

811
00:33:48,714 --> 00:33:50,714
Speaker 1: little bit of a I love it. I don't know

812
00:33:50,714 --> 00:33:53,754
Speaker 1: about a stud your bougie please my friend.

813
00:33:53,874 --> 00:33:56,394
Speaker 2: Okay, this is going to really turn some moretience off,

814
00:33:56,394 --> 00:33:59,634
Speaker 2: I feel like because he's a bougie af But these

815
00:33:59,754 --> 00:34:03,274
Speaker 2: are the tabby broken mirror tall boots.

816
00:34:03,354 --> 00:34:04,434
Speaker 1: Okay, they sound weird.

817
00:34:04,794 --> 00:34:08,913
Speaker 2: These are Machella I love, and they've pushing your three thousand,

818
00:34:09,034 --> 00:34:11,154
Speaker 2: five hundred bucks and.

819
00:34:11,114 --> 00:34:13,914
Speaker 1: They're tabby, they're tabby, Okay, can you explain to people

820
00:34:13,913 --> 00:34:17,114
Speaker 1: what tabby is? The little split toe so you look

821
00:34:17,194 --> 00:34:21,114
Speaker 1: like a cowfoot or camelot for three thousand dollars, yes,

822
00:34:21,154 --> 00:34:23,834
Speaker 1: but these are Look, there.

823
00:34:23,354 --> 00:34:26,114
Speaker 2: Are certain things in life that you can lust after

824
00:34:26,794 --> 00:34:28,794
Speaker 2: that you're actually never going to probably own.

825
00:34:29,394 --> 00:34:31,314
Speaker 1: And we all have different style and that's why this

826
00:34:31,394 --> 00:34:33,473
Speaker 1: is important that you like these. And I think they

827
00:34:33,514 --> 00:34:34,674
Speaker 1: sound repulsive.

828
00:34:34,314 --> 00:34:36,634
Speaker 2: Yes, and that you know they do look like some

829
00:34:36,714 --> 00:34:39,473
Speaker 2: costume where that like if the devil himself came to Earth,

830
00:34:39,514 --> 00:34:40,794
Speaker 2: he would probably wear these shoes.

831
00:34:40,914 --> 00:34:43,794
Speaker 1: Maybe if aliens come, they'll think you're one of them exactly. Okay,

832
00:34:43,834 --> 00:34:47,034
Speaker 1: so three thousand dollars, yes, the hoof toe what we

833
00:34:47,114 --> 00:34:49,154
Speaker 1: got going one?

834
00:34:49,514 --> 00:34:51,874
Speaker 2: And I mean, look, these are just like a fashion

835
00:34:51,874 --> 00:34:52,754
Speaker 2: collector item.

836
00:34:52,594 --> 00:34:54,554
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically, so you're confident.

837
00:34:54,674 --> 00:34:57,474
Speaker 2: I don't unless someone gives me these, which you know,

838
00:34:57,594 --> 00:35:00,594
Speaker 2: call me majella, but like I am, I'm never going

839
00:35:00,634 --> 00:35:03,714
Speaker 2: to buy these. But they are incredible and if you're

840
00:35:03,714 --> 00:35:05,794
Speaker 2: just culturally aware of them, you might be able to

841
00:35:05,834 --> 00:35:07,513
Speaker 2: get a nice little you know, you.

842
00:35:07,474 --> 00:35:09,794
Speaker 1: Can get some really I won't say jobs, because that

843
00:35:10,474 --> 00:35:13,234
Speaker 1: look is inspired everywhere out on Etsy. They have really

844
00:35:13,274 --> 00:35:17,074
Speaker 1: great styles. Mine is very boring compared to camel To's.

845
00:35:17,274 --> 00:35:21,114
Speaker 1: But we were screaming and worried and stressed that skinny

846
00:35:21,194 --> 00:35:22,953
Speaker 1: leg jeans were coming back in which I do not

847
00:35:22,994 --> 00:35:25,394
Speaker 1: have a problem with. So this winter I am seeing

848
00:35:25,434 --> 00:35:28,794
Speaker 1: and you can get these now even more exaggerated barrel leg.

849
00:35:29,234 --> 00:35:35,474
Speaker 1: Oh yes, crazy balloon leg. You're absolutely extreme horseshoe. And

850
00:35:35,514 --> 00:35:37,473
Speaker 1: now what we're calling puddle pants. So you can get

851
00:35:37,514 --> 00:35:41,554
Speaker 1: puddle pants that are just really really long, baggy, wide

852
00:35:41,594 --> 00:35:44,474
Speaker 1: leg horseshoe and they're meant to puddle on the floor.

853
00:35:44,714 --> 00:35:48,554
Speaker 1: So I mean, are they are they functional? Well not really,

854
00:35:48,634 --> 00:35:50,194
Speaker 1: It depends if you go to the post office or

855
00:35:50,234 --> 00:35:53,074
Speaker 1: running away from the zombies. But you can't have them

856
00:35:53,074 --> 00:35:55,634
Speaker 1: taken up. I really love the look. I bought a pair.

857
00:35:55,714 --> 00:35:57,994
Speaker 1: I mean, you'll see the word puddle used in the

858
00:35:58,034 --> 00:36:00,234
Speaker 1: style name more and more. There's a lot overseas they're

859
00:36:00,234 --> 00:36:02,234
Speaker 1: coming here for this winter. But it's just a really

860
00:36:02,234 --> 00:36:04,914
Speaker 1: wide leg or barrel leg jean that I guess depending

861
00:36:04,914 --> 00:36:06,873
Speaker 1: again on your height. But I've bought some thinking I

862
00:36:06,914 --> 00:36:08,514
Speaker 1: can do that, and then I nearly killed myself on

863
00:36:08,554 --> 00:36:11,034
Speaker 1: an escalator and I had them taken up. Yes, so

864
00:36:11,634 --> 00:36:14,074
Speaker 1: just to say, barrel legs not going anywhere. Shapes are

865
00:36:14,074 --> 00:36:17,474
Speaker 1: getting more sort of extreme and accentuated, which I really like.

866
00:36:17,794 --> 00:36:19,873
Speaker 1: So my first one I own in a different color.

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Speaker 1: They're the Lily Loves horseshoed leg jeans. They're fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: from Target. They're a brown. It's really beautiful rich brown

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Speaker 1: for winter. But I've just got the classic denim my

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00:36:28,714 --> 00:36:31,994
Speaker 1: mid range and shout out to De Cuba. Dacuba is

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00:36:32,034 --> 00:36:35,473
Speaker 1: doing so much like really fashion forward great stuff, like

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Speaker 1: a bit like whoa, that's I'm surprised to Cuba's doing

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00:36:38,834 --> 00:36:41,834
Speaker 1: such a wide leg shape. They're the De Cuba Daisy

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00:36:41,874 --> 00:36:44,794
Speaker 1: horseshoe jeans. They're nineteen I wish they were. They're one

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00:36:44,834 --> 00:36:47,834
Speaker 1: hundred and nineteen ninety five. They're quite an out their shape.

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00:36:47,834 --> 00:36:51,994
Speaker 1: There's even bigger, like kind of more exaggerated volume. I

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00:36:51,994 --> 00:36:53,994
Speaker 1: don't think that style will sell very well, but then

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00:36:54,034 --> 00:36:56,754
Speaker 1: they have maybe three others that are much more wearable,

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00:36:56,754 --> 00:36:59,674
Speaker 1: different silhouettes, different widths, so I think that's quite clever.

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00:36:59,714 --> 00:37:01,314
Speaker 1: And jeans you never know, you've got to try them on.

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00:37:01,514 --> 00:37:04,194
Speaker 1: I just I'm obsessed with barrel leg because almost you

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00:37:04,274 --> 00:37:06,474
Speaker 1: meant to not look amazing like it's not they're not slimming,

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00:37:07,114 --> 00:37:09,154
Speaker 1: they're not flattering in the way that people say flattering

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00:37:09,154 --> 00:37:11,194
Speaker 1: will make you essentially look tall or skinnier. And I

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00:37:11,274 --> 00:37:13,074
Speaker 1: kind of like that. It's just permission also to be

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00:37:13,114 --> 00:37:13,874
Speaker 1: bloody comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's power in that, Like you know,

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00:37:16,034 --> 00:37:17,994
Speaker 2: if you remember the days of man Repella, there's a

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00:37:17,994 --> 00:37:21,074
Speaker 2: power in kind of having something that's not meant to

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Speaker 2: be loved by everyone. Yes, it's like I know I'm

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00:37:23,954 --> 00:37:24,594
Speaker 2: wearing something.

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00:37:24,874 --> 00:37:27,234
Speaker 1: My husband thinks something looks terrible. I know it's cool. Yes,

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00:37:27,474 --> 00:37:29,234
Speaker 1: And the last ones I'm wearing today, So I'll show

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00:37:29,274 --> 00:37:31,714
Speaker 1: you after this that the Dams and Madder Erika jeans.

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00:37:31,754 --> 00:37:33,754
Speaker 1: There are one hundred and eighty dollars. They launched on

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00:37:33,794 --> 00:37:36,394
Speaker 1: the Iconic oh about a month ago, and I literally

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00:37:37,194 --> 00:37:39,434
Speaker 1: missed out, like I was. They sold out in a second.

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00:37:39,434 --> 00:37:41,834
Speaker 1: They've been restocked. I stalked them like a mad person.

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00:37:41,914 --> 00:37:44,033
Speaker 1: They're one hundred and eighty dollars. It's quite a thin

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00:37:44,114 --> 00:37:46,434
Speaker 1: denim and there's a little bit of stretch. I'm usually

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00:37:46,474 --> 00:37:49,554
Speaker 1: anti stretch, but because they're sort of so bagging and

902
00:37:49,594 --> 00:37:52,393
Speaker 1: wide leg, it just makes them so comfortable to wear

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00:37:52,474 --> 00:37:54,794
Speaker 1: because you're not really asking the stretch to do much.

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00:37:55,114 --> 00:37:57,554
Speaker 1: It's not like there's you know, tight skinny leg I

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00:37:57,594 --> 00:37:59,594
Speaker 1: love them. I love them. I love this whole brand.

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00:37:59,594 --> 00:38:02,074
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard of it before until recently, and they're

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00:38:02,074 --> 00:38:03,914
Speaker 1: going to be restocked again. There's a few different colors

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00:38:03,914 --> 00:38:06,154
Speaker 1: and one hundred and eighty dollars that's not out.

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00:38:06,194 --> 00:38:08,594
Speaker 2: I was going to say, you're you're making mine look

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00:38:08,674 --> 00:38:10,674
Speaker 2: psycho like my fashion industry.

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00:38:10,834 --> 00:38:12,354
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're a down at fashion Week. I'm up

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00:38:12,354 --> 00:38:15,433
Speaker 1: at Westfield like we're different people. Yeah, but they look great.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot more expensive versions that did have

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00:38:17,994 --> 00:38:19,913
Speaker 1: puddle in the style name that I was going to bring,

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00:38:19,954 --> 00:38:21,554
Speaker 1: but then I thought, you know what, just for highlighting

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00:38:21,554 --> 00:38:24,034
Speaker 1: the trend, I'm not going to talk about really expensive ones. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with these. They're great Erica Erica, the Erica

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00:38:27,234 --> 00:38:29,714
Speaker 1: jeans by Damse and Matter at the Iconic. But they'll

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Speaker 1: be back again because I literally got all your Size

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00:38:32,394 --> 00:38:34,354
Speaker 1: is back and it was sold out. Agant are they

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00:38:34,354 --> 00:38:36,274
Speaker 1: after Erica Jane? Because they do? They look fair? I

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00:38:36,274 --> 00:38:38,714
Speaker 1: don't know, I have to and show you don't. Yeah,

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00:38:39,234 --> 00:38:41,194
Speaker 1: but they do. They look like real housewives, coded like

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00:38:41,394 --> 00:38:43,433
Speaker 1: very very nice. I look like I'm about to get

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00:38:43,434 --> 00:38:45,354
Speaker 1: on a horse or I got off a horse. Oh really,

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're very like brunchy and beautiful. Well,

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Speaker 1: my friends, it's always fascinating to talk to you. I

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00:38:50,634 --> 00:38:52,274
Speaker 1: love having you on because you prove that you're more

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00:38:52,274 --> 00:38:55,154
Speaker 1: than just your absolutely beautiful looks until I look for

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00:38:55,234 --> 00:38:58,034
Speaker 1: grass and undias again and you're letting me pretend to

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Speaker 1: be an economist for the day. I honestly I think

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Speaker 1: your insights are so fun. So please come back again soon.

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Speaker 1: I will thank you well. I hope you found that interesting,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for listening to Nothing to Don't Forget.

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Speaker 1: wonderful Tam gave us a blow by blow of her

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Speaker 1: week at fashion Week. You can watch that on YouTube too,

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Speaker 1: See you next time. Mama Meyer acknowledges the traditional owners

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Speaker 1: of the land. We have recorded this podcast on the

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Speaker 1: gadigall people of the Urination. We pay our respects to

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Speaker 1: their elders past and present and extend that respect to

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Speaker 1: all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.