1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:15,265 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:15,305 --> 00:00:18,345 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,465 --> 00:00:19,545 Speaker 1: is recorded. 4 00:00:19,065 --> 00:00:22,105 Speaker 2: On Makeup is my Therapy. 5 00:00:23,305 --> 00:00:25,505 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed and I don't even feel. 6 00:00:25,345 --> 00:00:26,105 Speaker 2: Guilty a body. 7 00:00:29,345 --> 00:00:32,785 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for 8 00:00:32,865 --> 00:00:35,825 Speaker 1: Your Face. I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly McCarran. Your face 9 00:00:35,905 --> 00:00:36,585 Speaker 1: it's beautiful. 10 00:00:37,585 --> 00:00:40,905 Speaker 3: Have you noticed, like we discussed last Monday, I've got 11 00:00:41,025 --> 00:00:43,745 Speaker 3: a nice plum blush on your hair? 12 00:00:43,865 --> 00:00:47,305 Speaker 1: Is your natural wave? Are we going to talk about that? Oh? 13 00:00:47,385 --> 00:00:49,065 Speaker 3: Listen, I still had to tame it a fair bit 14 00:00:49,065 --> 00:00:50,385 Speaker 3: because otherwise it was a little bit. 15 00:00:50,585 --> 00:00:52,585 Speaker 1: I can't believe in seven years of doing this with you, 16 00:00:52,585 --> 00:00:53,305 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. 17 00:00:53,465 --> 00:00:56,465 Speaker 3: You have, and every time I leave it natural, you go, 18 00:00:56,585 --> 00:00:57,345 Speaker 3: oh you never. 19 00:00:57,385 --> 00:00:58,145 Speaker 2: We're neutral. 20 00:00:58,425 --> 00:01:01,625 Speaker 1: You should because often enough enough yet for you to remember, 21 00:01:01,705 --> 00:01:04,305 Speaker 1: because you do have the memory of a goldfish. Well, 22 00:01:04,305 --> 00:01:06,345 Speaker 1: we don't have a question today about waves, but we 23 00:01:06,385 --> 00:01:07,665 Speaker 1: do have a good hair one. But what do we 24 00:01:07,665 --> 00:01:08,265 Speaker 1: do on Monday? 25 00:01:08,345 --> 00:01:11,225 Speaker 3: Well, exactly in case eyone else's a goldfish and forgets 26 00:01:11,225 --> 00:01:14,385 Speaker 3: what we do on Mondays? We answer your questions and 27 00:01:14,425 --> 00:01:18,745 Speaker 3: we've got two fantastic questions today. Later on in the episode, 28 00:01:18,745 --> 00:01:21,785 Speaker 3: we've got one about feeling an Eyebrowser's actually like, you know, 29 00:01:21,865 --> 00:01:23,385 Speaker 3: one of those questions that makes goo. 30 00:01:23,985 --> 00:01:26,105 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, just one of those things that we say 31 00:01:26,145 --> 00:01:29,625 Speaker 2: all the time. But yeah, I couldn't help. But wonder 32 00:01:29,945 --> 00:01:30,745 Speaker 2: ask me anything. 33 00:01:30,825 --> 00:01:34,385 Speaker 1: You ask many questions. But first up, we've got a 34 00:01:34,465 --> 00:01:36,985 Speaker 1: question about hair from Suzanne. 35 00:01:37,745 --> 00:01:42,625 Speaker 3: I'm seeking some urgent advice before I spend big hair extensions. 36 00:01:42,945 --> 00:01:45,265 Speaker 3: What is the feedback from the girls at you Beauty? 37 00:01:45,585 --> 00:01:45,825 Speaker 2: Yes? 38 00:01:45,985 --> 00:01:47,985 Speaker 3: No, Which are the best? I don't want them for length, 39 00:01:48,025 --> 00:01:49,905 Speaker 3: but I want them to thicken my hair up. I 40 00:01:49,905 --> 00:01:52,505 Speaker 3: have fine hair, and as I am getting older, it's 41 00:01:52,545 --> 00:01:54,905 Speaker 3: not getting any better. Before I cut it short, I 42 00:01:54,985 --> 00:01:57,865 Speaker 3: was thinking of extensions, but I don't know where to start. 43 00:01:58,265 --> 00:02:00,505 Speaker 3: Which ones are the best and most natural, which would 44 00:02:00,585 --> 00:02:03,105 Speaker 3: require the least amount of maintenance, or are they all 45 00:02:03,105 --> 00:02:03,505 Speaker 3: the same? 46 00:02:03,705 --> 00:02:04,225 Speaker 2: Please help? 47 00:02:04,265 --> 00:02:05,625 Speaker 3: I have no idea where to start, as there is 48 00:02:05,625 --> 00:02:09,385 Speaker 3: so much information online and they all conflict each other's 49 00:02:09,425 --> 00:02:11,265 Speaker 3: client sinks. 50 00:02:11,105 --> 00:02:14,305 Speaker 1: Well, Susan, we can both help. Kelly had extensions until recently, 51 00:02:14,625 --> 00:02:17,305 Speaker 1: and in my late twenties, I had a long period 52 00:02:17,505 --> 00:02:22,105 Speaker 1: of extensions. Back then. It was kind of like I 53 00:02:22,145 --> 00:02:24,185 Speaker 1: had tape in, so it's like literally a couple of 54 00:02:24,225 --> 00:02:27,625 Speaker 1: centimeters and they use like a really fancy hardcore glue 55 00:02:27,665 --> 00:02:30,305 Speaker 1: and like tape it in the back and around your crs. 56 00:02:30,305 --> 00:02:32,505 Speaker 2: Just straighten it to kind of like press it. 57 00:02:32,465 --> 00:02:34,145 Speaker 1: Like heat it. H And then what's the other one 58 00:02:34,145 --> 00:02:36,225 Speaker 1: when it's that bond? So what did you have? 59 00:02:36,545 --> 00:02:38,985 Speaker 3: I had weaves, which we're going to get too, because 60 00:02:38,985 --> 00:02:42,025 Speaker 3: I do think it's the superior or well, well, Susan, 61 00:02:42,385 --> 00:02:44,425 Speaker 3: you say you have fine hair and you want it 62 00:02:44,465 --> 00:02:47,025 Speaker 3: for volume, I'm going to recommend just clip in. 63 00:02:47,065 --> 00:02:48,865 Speaker 1: I've got a few things to tell you about. But 64 00:02:49,665 --> 00:02:52,105 Speaker 1: any form of hair extension that's sort of permanently put 65 00:02:52,145 --> 00:02:54,465 Speaker 1: in your hair will make your hair fall out. Not 66 00:02:54,505 --> 00:02:56,665 Speaker 1: all of it, but it's tension on the scalp, tension 67 00:02:56,665 --> 00:02:59,185 Speaker 1: on the hair. Some are better than others. The maintenance 68 00:02:59,305 --> 00:03:01,025 Speaker 1: is you have to have them removed and moved up 69 00:03:01,105 --> 00:03:04,305 Speaker 1: or whatever, so it's expensive and time consuming. It's also 70 00:03:04,345 --> 00:03:08,065 Speaker 1: a massive ball ach to wash. I find. I had 71 00:03:08,105 --> 00:03:10,785 Speaker 1: tape ins, which I found okay, took a long time 72 00:03:10,865 --> 00:03:13,985 Speaker 1: to heat style. But then one summer I was dating 73 00:03:13,985 --> 00:03:15,905 Speaker 1: this news surfer and I was like, yeah, I was 74 00:03:15,905 --> 00:03:18,065 Speaker 1: like swimming all week in the ocean, didn't wash my hair. 75 00:03:18,345 --> 00:03:20,145 Speaker 1: I got such a madded mess that it took them 76 00:03:20,185 --> 00:03:22,065 Speaker 1: eight hours to try and get them out. Oh my. 77 00:03:22,745 --> 00:03:25,785 Speaker 1: So look, if I were to ever get hair extensions 78 00:03:25,865 --> 00:03:28,145 Speaker 1: in my hair again, I would get tape in. But 79 00:03:28,185 --> 00:03:30,625 Speaker 1: my recommendation for you is clip in. I've got a 80 00:03:30,665 --> 00:03:35,025 Speaker 1: friend my age so early ish forties. She's got fine hair, 81 00:03:35,185 --> 00:03:36,905 Speaker 1: not a huge amount of it, but it's fine for 82 00:03:36,985 --> 00:03:38,865 Speaker 1: like every day or whatever. And then she's on the 83 00:03:38,905 --> 00:03:41,145 Speaker 1: telly and she just does a row or they do, 84 00:03:41,705 --> 00:03:43,185 Speaker 1: and she puts them in herself. Now a roll or 85 00:03:43,225 --> 00:03:45,385 Speaker 1: two of clip in just at the back, so you 86 00:03:45,505 --> 00:03:47,345 Speaker 1: like do a half up, half down clip clip clip. 87 00:03:47,745 --> 00:03:49,025 Speaker 1: You can go to the hair dress and get them 88 00:03:49,025 --> 00:03:50,905 Speaker 1: to cut it into your hair the length you want. 89 00:03:51,025 --> 00:03:53,505 Speaker 1: You buy the color of your hair, and she just 90 00:03:53,545 --> 00:03:55,465 Speaker 1: wears them if she's going out to dinner or going 91 00:03:55,465 --> 00:03:57,705 Speaker 1: to work or whatever, and then you can take them out, 92 00:03:57,785 --> 00:03:59,625 Speaker 1: wash them style and when they're not in your hair. 93 00:04:00,025 --> 00:04:01,905 Speaker 1: Medusa is a brand that does really good clip ins, 94 00:04:02,305 --> 00:04:04,665 Speaker 1: and also there's a brand that does pretty much everything, 95 00:04:04,745 --> 00:04:08,185 Speaker 1: Angel hair extensions. They do tapes, clipins, halos, wefts. 96 00:04:08,425 --> 00:04:09,825 Speaker 2: Halos is so easy. 97 00:04:10,025 --> 00:04:11,945 Speaker 1: I've never done a halo. Should I do a halo? 98 00:04:12,305 --> 00:04:16,665 Speaker 3: It's just like the whole extension is then attached to 99 00:04:17,785 --> 00:04:18,825 Speaker 3: fishing wire. 100 00:04:18,625 --> 00:04:20,865 Speaker 1: Type kind of like a two pay, but not literally 101 00:04:20,865 --> 00:04:21,145 Speaker 1: it is. 102 00:04:21,225 --> 00:04:23,025 Speaker 3: It's an opposite of a two paid because it goes 103 00:04:23,065 --> 00:04:26,145 Speaker 3: down your back instead of like on your forehead, and 104 00:04:26,465 --> 00:04:28,585 Speaker 3: you just lift up your hair and then you place 105 00:04:28,625 --> 00:04:30,065 Speaker 3: it on and then you sort of just comb the 106 00:04:30,065 --> 00:04:32,345 Speaker 3: rest of your hair over the top. Yes, and yes, 107 00:04:32,385 --> 00:04:34,505 Speaker 3: if you look closer, you can see the wire, but 108 00:04:34,545 --> 00:04:36,105 Speaker 3: you have to be looking so close. 109 00:04:36,225 --> 00:04:38,185 Speaker 1: That's why I like the clip ins because they really 110 00:04:38,265 --> 00:04:39,745 Speaker 1: kind of get in and you clip it in like 111 00:04:40,225 --> 00:04:43,425 Speaker 1: and then snap it sharp like a hair clip. Surprisingly, 112 00:04:43,825 --> 00:04:45,865 Speaker 1: and they're pretty like. I used to wear them back 113 00:04:45,865 --> 00:04:46,945 Speaker 1: in the day as well, and you could go on 114 00:04:47,065 --> 00:04:48,745 Speaker 1: dance flor and whatever, and I just loved it that 115 00:04:48,825 --> 00:04:51,785 Speaker 1: I could take them out. You know, I would recommend 116 00:04:51,825 --> 00:04:54,385 Speaker 1: you go for human hair, ethically sourced human hair, because 117 00:04:54,385 --> 00:04:56,225 Speaker 1: there's plastic ones that you can get from like TMO, 118 00:04:56,265 --> 00:04:58,345 Speaker 1: but they look like plastic hair and then you can 119 00:04:58,385 --> 00:05:00,825 Speaker 1: care for it when it's not on your head. That's 120 00:05:00,905 --> 00:05:05,065 Speaker 1: my recommendation over to you. Firstly, I would say. 121 00:05:04,905 --> 00:05:08,265 Speaker 3: To go back and listen to last Monday's episode, where 122 00:05:08,505 --> 00:05:12,225 Speaker 3: Lee had some fantast stick recommendations on actually like getting 123 00:05:12,265 --> 00:05:15,225 Speaker 3: your hair to thicken up and more hair so true 124 00:05:15,265 --> 00:05:17,385 Speaker 3: growth serums like the type B one that made me 125 00:05:17,465 --> 00:05:19,545 Speaker 3: have to get my fore head repreaded. 126 00:05:19,185 --> 00:05:21,505 Speaker 1: Because literally, because you're so hair grew so much hair. 127 00:05:21,985 --> 00:05:24,185 Speaker 3: Because the thing is is that, I mean, I don't 128 00:05:24,225 --> 00:05:29,265 Speaker 3: know how thin your hair is, but if it's really thin, 129 00:05:29,545 --> 00:05:32,225 Speaker 3: then you will struggle a little bit with extensions because 130 00:05:32,225 --> 00:05:33,785 Speaker 3: you'll actually be able to see them. 131 00:05:33,905 --> 00:05:35,505 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if you want to put your hair up, 132 00:05:35,585 --> 00:05:36,905 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's tricky. 133 00:05:37,185 --> 00:05:42,265 Speaker 3: So I will always be a huge fan and suggest weaves. However, 134 00:05:42,385 --> 00:05:45,665 Speaker 3: if your hair is super fine, you probably can't get 135 00:05:45,705 --> 00:05:47,345 Speaker 3: a weave because you would be able to sort of 136 00:05:47,385 --> 00:05:48,185 Speaker 3: see the bump. 137 00:05:48,345 --> 00:05:49,865 Speaker 1: Yes, so can you talk us through a weave? Is 138 00:05:49,865 --> 00:05:51,185 Speaker 1: that where they stitch it to your head? 139 00:05:51,305 --> 00:05:51,585 Speaker 2: Yes. 140 00:05:51,705 --> 00:05:54,385 Speaker 3: So what they'll do is they'll either put one, two, 141 00:05:54,465 --> 00:05:56,225 Speaker 3: or three, depending on your needs. 142 00:05:56,505 --> 00:05:57,385 Speaker 2: I would never do three. 143 00:05:57,425 --> 00:06:00,545 Speaker 3: That's way too much, tiny tiny, tiny little corn rows 144 00:06:00,585 --> 00:06:04,145 Speaker 3: basically on your scalp. And then they get the hair, 145 00:06:04,145 --> 00:06:06,985 Speaker 3: they'll much it to like talk to you about the thickness, 146 00:06:07,025 --> 00:06:09,265 Speaker 3: and that means how many wats they're going to put 147 00:06:10,145 --> 00:06:12,425 Speaker 3: and they'll match the color, and then they actually stitch 148 00:06:12,545 --> 00:06:15,305 Speaker 3: that into the corn room, which feels at the time 149 00:06:15,425 --> 00:06:18,225 Speaker 3: like they're stitching it into your scalp. It is quite uncomfortable, 150 00:06:18,265 --> 00:06:19,905 Speaker 3: and it's very tight to the first time you get 151 00:06:19,945 --> 00:06:20,145 Speaker 3: it out. 152 00:06:20,145 --> 00:06:22,025 Speaker 1: It so is everything else because they want to get 153 00:06:22,065 --> 00:06:23,785 Speaker 1: it so close to the root as they can so 154 00:06:23,865 --> 00:06:26,065 Speaker 1: that you get maximum growth before you need to have 155 00:06:26,105 --> 00:06:26,865 Speaker 1: them moved back up. 156 00:06:27,025 --> 00:06:30,785 Speaker 3: The reason I'm such a fan of a weave over 157 00:06:31,265 --> 00:06:34,905 Speaker 3: other forms of hair extensions is that it's more affordable. 158 00:06:35,025 --> 00:06:37,425 Speaker 3: I know that that other types of hair extensions can 159 00:06:37,465 --> 00:06:40,985 Speaker 3: be upwards of a thousand dollars easily. It doesn't take 160 00:06:41,105 --> 00:06:43,265 Speaker 3: much time at all. They can put it in in 161 00:06:43,425 --> 00:06:47,065 Speaker 3: under an hour, like it's thick. Yeah, And even when 162 00:06:47,065 --> 00:06:48,785 Speaker 3: you have to get it tightened, it's the same thing. 163 00:06:48,905 --> 00:06:50,345 Speaker 2: It's half an hour. 164 00:06:51,225 --> 00:06:55,545 Speaker 3: It's only damaging your hair in the two points where 165 00:06:56,145 --> 00:06:59,985 Speaker 3: the braid is actually sort of anchored. Great, it's not 166 00:07:00,065 --> 00:07:00,785 Speaker 3: damaging your. 167 00:07:00,705 --> 00:07:04,385 Speaker 2: Hair everywhere else. Because of that, it's really easy. 168 00:07:04,465 --> 00:07:06,585 Speaker 3: It's not hard to wash, it's not hard to maintain 169 00:07:06,625 --> 00:07:09,545 Speaker 3: because it's just that one part of your scalp that's affected. 170 00:07:09,785 --> 00:07:12,225 Speaker 1: That sounds really good. Yeah, wish I'd tried those back 171 00:07:12,225 --> 00:07:14,585 Speaker 1: in the day. Yeah, so we eve if you want 172 00:07:14,585 --> 00:07:17,505 Speaker 1: permanent or clip in if you want, you know, come 173 00:07:17,545 --> 00:07:18,905 Speaker 1: and go vibe. 174 00:07:18,665 --> 00:07:21,025 Speaker 3: Or like asking the you beuty Facebook group because the 175 00:07:21,065 --> 00:07:22,865 Speaker 3: problem is is that I've got a lot of hair. 176 00:07:23,745 --> 00:07:26,785 Speaker 3: So if you do have that really fine hair, asking 177 00:07:26,865 --> 00:07:28,905 Speaker 3: the you beauty Facebook group because I know a lot 178 00:07:28,905 --> 00:07:31,105 Speaker 3: of people that do have more fine hair that found 179 00:07:31,185 --> 00:07:32,105 Speaker 3: the bonds or the. 180 00:07:32,065 --> 00:07:33,745 Speaker 2: Tapes yeaheah a lot more. 181 00:07:33,865 --> 00:07:36,745 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you could just start with clipping. See how 182 00:07:36,785 --> 00:07:39,545 Speaker 1: you feel like if you like the look, yeah, because 183 00:07:39,585 --> 00:07:41,185 Speaker 1: you know it does feel like there's something in your 184 00:07:41,185 --> 00:07:43,105 Speaker 1: hair on your scout. Make sure you don't hate the 185 00:07:43,145 --> 00:07:46,025 Speaker 1: feeling before, you know, commit to something that's permanently there 186 00:07:46,025 --> 00:07:47,545 Speaker 1: for six to eight weeks or whatever, and you have 187 00:07:47,545 --> 00:07:49,905 Speaker 1: to have it moved up exactly. Good luck. That was 188 00:07:49,905 --> 00:07:51,945 Speaker 1: a good question. We haven't had extensions for a long 189 00:07:51,985 --> 00:07:55,705 Speaker 1: time now. Coming up after the break a DM about brows. 190 00:07:55,705 --> 00:07:57,945 Speaker 1: So if you're not sure about the best brow practice, 191 00:07:57,985 --> 00:07:58,705 Speaker 1: stay tuned. 192 00:08:03,945 --> 00:08:06,865 Speaker 3: Truna has sent us a DM, Ladies, I need to 193 00:08:06,865 --> 00:08:09,905 Speaker 3: ask a silly question, no such thing, no such what 194 00:08:09,985 --> 00:08:12,945 Speaker 3: exactly does feeling in my eyebrows mean? I currently use 195 00:08:12,985 --> 00:08:15,865 Speaker 3: a pencil and just color in the patches like a crayon. 196 00:08:16,305 --> 00:08:18,745 Speaker 3: Is that right? Is a pencil best? Or are there 197 00:08:18,785 --> 00:08:20,985 Speaker 3: methods I should try? I feel like it looks like 198 00:08:21,025 --> 00:08:23,305 Speaker 3: a big block, not like real eyebrows. 199 00:08:24,345 --> 00:08:25,585 Speaker 2: This question is so good. 200 00:08:25,665 --> 00:08:29,505 Speaker 3: Isn't it funny how you say things when we're in 201 00:08:29,545 --> 00:08:33,265 Speaker 3: this industry, Like a mechanic might be like, oh, something 202 00:08:33,265 --> 00:08:35,985 Speaker 3: about the cars, or when people that watch sport watch sport, 203 00:08:36,025 --> 00:08:39,145 Speaker 3: they go, oh to love and from that mean forward 204 00:08:39,185 --> 00:08:41,945 Speaker 3: pass and you're like what and oh, did you feel 205 00:08:41,945 --> 00:08:44,665 Speaker 3: any brows like that? Or oh, make sure you put 206 00:08:44,665 --> 00:08:46,585 Speaker 3: that in your crease, that'd be nice, Like we say 207 00:08:46,625 --> 00:08:50,425 Speaker 3: something lingo, things that would make no sense. So true, 208 00:08:50,465 --> 00:08:52,465 Speaker 3: and it's not a silly question. It's so true. 209 00:08:52,465 --> 00:08:53,185 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. 210 00:08:53,345 --> 00:08:54,865 Speaker 1: And for a long time it was sort of just 211 00:08:54,905 --> 00:08:57,585 Speaker 1: like whack it on. I mean sometimes I still do that. 212 00:08:57,705 --> 00:08:58,305 Speaker 2: So well. 213 00:08:58,385 --> 00:09:00,225 Speaker 1: I've said here in the notes, but I haven't looked 214 00:09:00,225 --> 00:09:02,345 Speaker 1: at Kelly's notes that you're probably gonna rave about benefit 215 00:09:03,705 --> 00:09:05,825 Speaker 1: of course, all right, well will you do that first? 216 00:09:05,865 --> 00:09:09,065 Speaker 1: And I've brought non benefit products because you're a bushy bitch. 217 00:09:09,305 --> 00:09:10,145 Speaker 2: I'm so bushy. 218 00:09:10,265 --> 00:09:13,105 Speaker 1: I've got very patchy eyebrows getting patchier as I ate, 219 00:09:13,225 --> 00:09:16,625 Speaker 1: So I think that she's probably more on my level. 220 00:09:16,665 --> 00:09:19,705 Speaker 3: When I think of filling in my brows, as I'm 221 00:09:19,825 --> 00:09:23,465 Speaker 3: very bushy, but there are some areas of my brows 222 00:09:23,505 --> 00:09:27,665 Speaker 3: where perhaps it's more sparse the hairs than other areas, 223 00:09:28,465 --> 00:09:29,945 Speaker 3: and it also just makes it. 224 00:09:29,865 --> 00:09:31,505 Speaker 2: All look a lot more uniform. 225 00:09:31,825 --> 00:09:34,265 Speaker 1: Benefit has a whole bunch like they've got super super 226 00:09:34,465 --> 00:09:36,705 Speaker 1: super fine pencil that's like you know, that kind of 227 00:09:36,705 --> 00:09:38,985 Speaker 1: waxy pencil, or they've even got like the textory ones. 228 00:09:39,105 --> 00:09:40,425 Speaker 2: They've got so many. 229 00:09:40,265 --> 00:09:43,905 Speaker 1: And the three prong kind of microblading copy type vibe. 230 00:09:44,225 --> 00:09:47,905 Speaker 3: But my all time favorite is the precisely my brow detailer. 231 00:09:48,465 --> 00:09:51,385 Speaker 3: So I have first up, which is what people It's 232 00:09:51,385 --> 00:09:56,065 Speaker 3: like a little tiny tiny pencil, not even like a needle. Yeah, 233 00:09:56,145 --> 00:09:59,345 Speaker 3: it's not even a pencil though. It's like a gel pencil. 234 00:09:59,025 --> 00:10:01,825 Speaker 1: Hybrid yes, and it's so fine yes. 235 00:10:01,865 --> 00:10:05,305 Speaker 2: And then the other end has a spoolly so fully. 236 00:10:05,065 --> 00:10:07,425 Speaker 1: Is like one of those tiny, tiny, tiny mascara brushes 237 00:10:07,465 --> 00:10:08,705 Speaker 1: with no scar on exactly. 238 00:10:08,825 --> 00:10:11,225 Speaker 3: So I'll brush up my brows and just make sure 239 00:10:11,265 --> 00:10:13,585 Speaker 3: that they're all all of the hairs because I'm bushy. 240 00:10:13,865 --> 00:10:16,305 Speaker 3: Go in the same direction, and then I have a 241 00:10:16,345 --> 00:10:20,225 Speaker 3: look where I need a little bit more depth, like 242 00:10:20,305 --> 00:10:22,625 Speaker 3: if there's some areas that don't have as much hair, 243 00:10:23,025 --> 00:10:26,905 Speaker 3: and I'll run it through there lightly like a council, 244 00:10:27,225 --> 00:10:31,265 Speaker 3: like just like using fine little feathery motions as if 245 00:10:31,305 --> 00:10:34,945 Speaker 3: i'm coloring in, basically literally as if I'm coloring in, okay, 246 00:10:35,385 --> 00:10:39,665 Speaker 3: and then really lightly I'll sort of define some of 247 00:10:39,705 --> 00:10:43,585 Speaker 3: the edges a little bit so that it looks more 248 00:10:43,985 --> 00:10:46,185 Speaker 3: of a shape of a shape rather than just like 249 00:10:46,225 --> 00:10:49,025 Speaker 3: a hairy blob or sitting on my face. And then 250 00:10:49,265 --> 00:10:51,105 Speaker 3: I use the brush again just to make sure that 251 00:10:51,185 --> 00:10:52,225 Speaker 3: there's no harsh lines. 252 00:10:52,345 --> 00:10:54,785 Speaker 1: I do the same with that bit before I recommend 253 00:10:54,825 --> 00:10:57,265 Speaker 1: some products. I am okay filling in my brows. They 254 00:10:57,265 --> 00:10:59,185 Speaker 1: look good. But when I was recently away, one of 255 00:10:59,265 --> 00:11:00,985 Speaker 1: my best friends is a makeup art of She lives 256 00:11:00,985 --> 00:11:02,585 Speaker 1: in Paris. When I go there, I make her do 257 00:11:02,825 --> 00:11:06,465 Speaker 1: makeup every night. She filled in my brows because I've 258 00:11:06,465 --> 00:11:09,305 Speaker 1: got you know, decent brow and then really patchy, so 259 00:11:09,345 --> 00:11:11,905 Speaker 1: she's like a really really dark round on the patchy 260 00:11:11,945 --> 00:11:15,425 Speaker 1: bits on the outside and where it needed a little 261 00:11:15,425 --> 00:11:17,105 Speaker 1: bit of filly in closer to the inner corner of 262 00:11:17,105 --> 00:11:19,985 Speaker 1: the eye. She used like a medium brown because visually, 263 00:11:20,025 --> 00:11:22,145 Speaker 1: if it's too dark, your eyes will look closer together 264 00:11:22,185 --> 00:11:22,905 Speaker 1: and you look angry. 265 00:11:23,265 --> 00:11:26,185 Speaker 3: And no one's natural eyebrow would be the exact same 266 00:11:26,345 --> 00:11:26,985 Speaker 3: color the whole way. 267 00:11:27,025 --> 00:11:28,545 Speaker 1: But I remember back in the day when we did 268 00:11:28,545 --> 00:11:31,585 Speaker 1: that really angular first bit. It was just not good. 269 00:11:31,705 --> 00:11:33,345 Speaker 2: I never did that at the Kardashian brow. 270 00:11:33,505 --> 00:11:35,225 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've got to show you photos. I 271 00:11:35,265 --> 00:11:38,305 Speaker 1: look like a lego. It was so bad. So if 272 00:11:38,345 --> 00:11:40,385 Speaker 1: you want to get that advance, you can use different colors. 273 00:11:40,425 --> 00:11:42,225 Speaker 1: I don't bother doing it at home, but some that 274 00:11:42,305 --> 00:11:44,065 Speaker 1: I love and I do the same as cal And 275 00:11:44,105 --> 00:11:45,465 Speaker 1: if I were you, I'd practice on the back of 276 00:11:45,465 --> 00:11:47,905 Speaker 1: your hand, just like stroke stroke like like pretend you're 277 00:11:47,985 --> 00:11:52,545 Speaker 1: drawing carestroke coloring in. But I think coloring in like 278 00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:54,105 Speaker 1: maybe because I've got a five year old coloring in 279 00:11:54,145 --> 00:11:55,465 Speaker 1: like em like, just. 280 00:11:55,385 --> 00:11:57,825 Speaker 2: Like coloring in neatly a tiny little area. 281 00:11:58,105 --> 00:12:00,465 Speaker 1: But you also maybe want to leave the tiniest cap, 282 00:12:00,705 --> 00:12:03,265 Speaker 1: you know, not a block color. Anyway, you're gonna have 283 00:12:03,265 --> 00:12:04,665 Speaker 1: to play around. Try it on the back of hand 284 00:12:04,665 --> 00:12:09,225 Speaker 1: before you do any brows. My recommendations are the Mecha 285 00:12:09,265 --> 00:12:13,425 Speaker 1: Max Brow Guru, Micromatic, pencil. This has got one of 286 00:12:13,425 --> 00:12:16,705 Speaker 1: the finest points I've ever seen. Twenty dollars. If you 287 00:12:16,785 --> 00:12:19,865 Speaker 1: can go in store and get shade matched, unless you're 288 00:12:19,905 --> 00:12:22,345 Speaker 1: pretty confident what you are, because there's you know, warm brown, 289 00:12:22,425 --> 00:12:24,785 Speaker 1: cool brown, and often brunettes like a light brown, not 290 00:12:24,785 --> 00:12:27,945 Speaker 1: a b in anyway, it's hard. The Cover Girl Clean 291 00:12:28,105 --> 00:12:31,705 Speaker 1: Fresh Brow nanopencil again, that is super fine. You get 292 00:12:31,705 --> 00:12:34,585 Speaker 1: that a price lign It's about twenty bucks. One I've 293 00:12:34,585 --> 00:12:36,585 Speaker 1: been using a lot I have with me today because 294 00:12:36,625 --> 00:12:38,585 Speaker 1: I often rub my face and have to touch up 295 00:12:38,625 --> 00:12:41,745 Speaker 1: my brows is the Elf Ultra Precise brow pencil. They're 296 00:12:41,785 --> 00:12:45,065 Speaker 1: fifteen dollars. You could also try, which I've had quite 297 00:12:45,065 --> 00:12:46,865 Speaker 1: a lot of luck with, is like a felt like 298 00:12:46,905 --> 00:12:48,985 Speaker 1: a it's a brow pen like think of a liquid 299 00:12:48,985 --> 00:12:51,265 Speaker 1: eye liner, but it's for your brows. I love the 300 00:12:51,265 --> 00:12:57,145 Speaker 1: Holy Strokes Microfine browpen by Elf Cosmetics. That's eighteen dollars. 301 00:12:57,385 --> 00:13:00,625 Speaker 1: Another good one, particularly if you want to practice, is 302 00:13:00,625 --> 00:13:02,465 Speaker 1: from Chemist to our House. You know that brand W 303 00:13:02,585 --> 00:13:06,345 Speaker 1: seven Sharp brow It's called it's like a feltpen in brunette. 304 00:13:06,625 --> 00:13:08,065 Speaker 1: It's four dollars. 305 00:13:08,305 --> 00:13:09,465 Speaker 2: I know, four dollars. 306 00:13:09,745 --> 00:13:12,225 Speaker 1: I know. Another one I love because I love Revolution 307 00:13:12,305 --> 00:13:16,665 Speaker 1: Beauty is the Revolution hairstroke browpen. Again similar really fine 308 00:13:16,705 --> 00:13:21,145 Speaker 1: pigmented pen like a liquid eyeliner, but you just do hairstrokes. 309 00:13:21,905 --> 00:13:25,865 Speaker 1: Then another option, if you're worried about depth or you know, 310 00:13:25,945 --> 00:13:28,545 Speaker 1: want it to really stay, it's got a super super 311 00:13:28,585 --> 00:13:31,785 Speaker 1: super fine angled brush and use a pomard. So the 312 00:13:31,825 --> 00:13:35,225 Speaker 1: Anastasia Beverly Hills dip brow pomarde is great and does 313 00:13:35,265 --> 00:13:37,585 Speaker 1: not go anywhere, and it kind of gives you more 314 00:13:37,625 --> 00:13:41,345 Speaker 1: opaqueness than the others. And then also a cheaper version 315 00:13:41,465 --> 00:13:44,665 Speaker 1: is the Mabe Lene Tattoo brow pomarde. Pot same vibe 316 00:13:45,225 --> 00:13:47,585 Speaker 1: and yeah, pop it in and then brush your brows 317 00:13:47,665 --> 00:13:49,905 Speaker 1: up and out again, just to kind of unify the 318 00:13:49,945 --> 00:13:52,025 Speaker 1: color of the product you've used and your own brow 319 00:13:52,185 --> 00:13:54,465 Speaker 1: so it looks kind of a bit more uniform. That's 320 00:13:54,505 --> 00:13:55,345 Speaker 1: what I do anyway. 321 00:13:55,945 --> 00:13:58,585 Speaker 3: It was such a good question, though very hard to 322 00:13:58,745 --> 00:14:00,705 Speaker 3: We need to talk mis to a video today straight 323 00:14:00,705 --> 00:14:01,105 Speaker 3: because I. 324 00:14:01,065 --> 00:14:02,425 Speaker 1: Was like, I just good Bubba bu, But then I 325 00:14:02,465 --> 00:14:04,705 Speaker 1: was like, what is bubba interesting? Huh? 326 00:14:04,745 --> 00:14:09,345 Speaker 3: After the break host Tax Host Tax and Lee, Oh gosh, 327 00:14:09,465 --> 00:14:10,945 Speaker 3: I hate her hack. 328 00:14:11,105 --> 00:14:17,945 Speaker 1: Excuse me, it's life changing in a good and bad way. 329 00:14:20,985 --> 00:14:28,345 Speaker 1: What you makeup hacks. Okay, so mine is it's not 330 00:14:28,545 --> 00:14:30,025 Speaker 1: for your pause and I. 331 00:14:30,065 --> 00:14:32,745 Speaker 2: Know, but I just don't ever want to see myself. 332 00:14:32,385 --> 00:14:34,945 Speaker 1: That close, Kelly. So it's to get a magnifying mirror. 333 00:14:35,145 --> 00:14:37,865 Speaker 1: Not groundbreaking, I know, not quite as groundbreaking as getting 334 00:14:37,865 --> 00:14:41,345 Speaker 1: a bobby pin. But those magnifying mirrors you can get 335 00:14:41,385 --> 00:14:43,625 Speaker 1: absolutely everywhere. It's on a stand, you flip it over. 336 00:14:43,665 --> 00:14:47,025 Speaker 1: One side's normal, the other sides like ten times magnified aggressive. 337 00:14:47,265 --> 00:14:48,785 Speaker 1: You get them from Mayer, you get them from Amazon, 338 00:14:48,825 --> 00:14:52,745 Speaker 1: you get them everywhere. So recently someone I love has 339 00:14:52,745 --> 00:14:54,545 Speaker 1: been in hospital. I've been there every day and they 340 00:14:54,665 --> 00:14:56,505 Speaker 1: had one with them. Hilariously. 341 00:14:56,545 --> 00:14:56,985 Speaker 2: I love that. 342 00:14:56,985 --> 00:14:59,625 Speaker 1: That's what day, yeah, to take to the hospital the 343 00:14:59,665 --> 00:15:03,465 Speaker 1: ambulance package. She said, I need my big magnifying mirror 344 00:15:03,545 --> 00:15:06,385 Speaker 1: to get a chin hairs. Oh a fear fair fair. Yeah. 345 00:15:06,425 --> 00:15:08,585 Speaker 1: So I started using a beautiful natural light in the 346 00:15:08,625 --> 00:15:10,625 Speaker 1: afternoon in the hospital and I was just smoking around, 347 00:15:10,705 --> 00:15:12,825 Speaker 1: you know, wasting hours, and I was plucking, plucking, and 348 00:15:12,865 --> 00:15:14,425 Speaker 1: then I was like, I want to do my makeup. 349 00:15:15,185 --> 00:15:19,545 Speaker 1: I was so precise with my makeup, maybe because my 350 00:15:19,585 --> 00:15:22,185 Speaker 1: eyesight's going a bit. When I then when I looked 351 00:15:22,185 --> 00:15:24,585 Speaker 1: in the regular mirror. It looked like I'd been airbrushed 352 00:15:24,585 --> 00:15:28,185 Speaker 1: because I could see every little like it was fun 353 00:15:28,305 --> 00:15:28,865 Speaker 1: to do. 354 00:15:29,465 --> 00:15:32,225 Speaker 3: Really, I just feel like looking at myself that closely 355 00:15:32,225 --> 00:15:33,025 Speaker 3: would not be good. 356 00:15:33,305 --> 00:15:34,825 Speaker 1: It will look at the start, I was like, oh 357 00:15:34,905 --> 00:15:36,505 Speaker 1: my god, that poor Oh my god, that hair, Oh 358 00:15:36,545 --> 00:15:38,545 Speaker 1: my god. That But you know, to do your makeup 359 00:15:38,585 --> 00:15:41,105 Speaker 1: more so obviously for plucking and whatever, but don't get 360 00:15:41,145 --> 00:15:43,265 Speaker 1: picking in those things because you're going to pick it 361 00:15:43,305 --> 00:15:46,025 Speaker 1: a microscopic thing because you think it's massive. But to 362 00:15:46,065 --> 00:15:48,345 Speaker 1: do your makeup or even just to finish your makeup, 363 00:15:48,585 --> 00:15:50,465 Speaker 1: I literally just loved it. Now I do it at 364 00:15:50,465 --> 00:15:54,065 Speaker 1: home all the time, natural light and magnifying mirror, just 365 00:15:54,105 --> 00:15:58,905 Speaker 1: to really make sure your preciseness is on point. Okay, 366 00:15:58,905 --> 00:16:01,505 Speaker 1: I haven't done it today. Can you tell I just 367 00:16:01,585 --> 00:16:03,745 Speaker 1: love it? What about you? 368 00:16:04,105 --> 00:16:06,025 Speaker 2: I've got an anti hack. 369 00:16:06,265 --> 00:16:07,625 Speaker 1: I love these ones an. 370 00:16:07,505 --> 00:16:12,545 Speaker 3: Anti hack, so I don't about uli, but my algorithm 371 00:16:12,665 --> 00:16:16,385 Speaker 3: is full of join me from my morning shed it 372 00:16:16,585 --> 00:16:17,945 Speaker 3: is what the hell? 373 00:16:17,985 --> 00:16:19,745 Speaker 1: I just I don't even watch them. Can you tell 374 00:16:19,785 --> 00:16:20,225 Speaker 1: me what happened? 375 00:16:20,305 --> 00:16:20,585 Speaker 2: Okay? 376 00:16:20,625 --> 00:16:23,705 Speaker 3: So, just if you've never seen this type of content before, 377 00:16:24,025 --> 00:16:29,305 Speaker 3: lucky you. It's just so silly, so It's basically someone 378 00:16:29,345 --> 00:16:32,025 Speaker 3: comes on camera and they say, do my morning shed, 379 00:16:32,145 --> 00:16:35,625 Speaker 3: and they're literally shedding layers. So they'll have the curling 380 00:16:35,825 --> 00:16:37,785 Speaker 3: things in their hair with then a bonnet over the 381 00:16:37,825 --> 00:16:42,185 Speaker 3: top their face. They do the face taping everywhere, and 382 00:16:42,185 --> 00:16:42,665 Speaker 3: then there's this. 383 00:16:42,825 --> 00:16:45,065 Speaker 1: Overnight thick sheet masky things you can do. 384 00:16:45,145 --> 00:16:47,705 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, then they'll put the overnight thick sheet mask 385 00:16:47,825 --> 00:16:50,145 Speaker 3: on their face, or they tape their. 386 00:16:49,985 --> 00:16:50,625 Speaker 2: Mouth as well. 387 00:16:50,705 --> 00:16:55,065 Speaker 3: I feel suffocated, yes, then they do like chest ones, 388 00:16:55,385 --> 00:16:58,945 Speaker 3: they wrap their tummy. Yes, they put all of these 389 00:16:58,985 --> 00:17:04,665 Speaker 3: different devices like rap no crap. Basically I feel really chastrophobic. 390 00:17:04,825 --> 00:17:07,505 Speaker 3: And then what's it meant to do nothing at the 391 00:17:07,625 --> 00:17:12,505 Speaker 3: end of the day. The actual difference would be so insignificant, 392 00:17:12,545 --> 00:17:15,545 Speaker 3: and no scientist has actually came out with any sort 393 00:17:15,545 --> 00:17:16,385 Speaker 3: of reputable dart. 394 00:17:16,505 --> 00:17:18,665 Speaker 1: Why don't they just throw serumon moisturize at a. 395 00:17:18,665 --> 00:17:21,265 Speaker 2: Bit literally okay, because that doesn't make good content. 396 00:17:21,625 --> 00:17:24,945 Speaker 3: So it is stupid and unnecessary and you do not 397 00:17:25,065 --> 00:17:28,025 Speaker 3: need to do it. Please don't think that any regular 398 00:17:28,105 --> 00:17:29,865 Speaker 3: person needs to do a shed. 399 00:17:29,905 --> 00:17:31,945 Speaker 1: Who has time to do that at night and in 400 00:17:31,985 --> 00:17:34,385 Speaker 1: the morning? And how would you sleep with gun coin? 401 00:17:34,505 --> 00:17:34,945 Speaker 2: And I love it? 402 00:17:35,025 --> 00:17:37,985 Speaker 3: People ask these questions and then they go, well, I 403 00:17:38,025 --> 00:17:40,425 Speaker 3: do have time. I make the time because I aprioritize it. 404 00:17:40,465 --> 00:17:44,185 Speaker 3: And it's like you're a full time content creator, so 405 00:17:44,305 --> 00:17:47,345 Speaker 3: this was part of your workday making that video. Average 406 00:17:47,345 --> 00:17:49,785 Speaker 3: people do not have forty minutes to apply shed. 407 00:17:49,865 --> 00:17:52,305 Speaker 1: I feel too suffocated if I've got too much things, 408 00:17:52,185 --> 00:17:53,105 Speaker 1: ye stuff on my face. 409 00:17:53,105 --> 00:17:55,945 Speaker 3: And also I don't actually think I reckon. Ninety percent 410 00:17:55,985 --> 00:17:57,505 Speaker 3: of the people aren't actually doing. 411 00:17:57,305 --> 00:17:58,625 Speaker 1: It right the way they're putting it on in the morning, 412 00:17:58,665 --> 00:17:59,505 Speaker 1: and they're filming. 413 00:17:59,305 --> 00:18:02,105 Speaker 3: Because it is good for shock value on social media. 414 00:18:02,185 --> 00:18:04,345 Speaker 3: You have to do those sorts of things to get views. 415 00:18:04,785 --> 00:18:07,545 Speaker 3: If they were sleeping it, they would be smashing the 416 00:18:07,625 --> 00:18:09,985 Speaker 3: zannies because absolutely sleep. 417 00:18:10,265 --> 00:18:12,505 Speaker 2: No way could anyone sleep like so I. 418 00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:16,265 Speaker 1: Get the night sweats speaking of all those players. But look, 419 00:18:16,305 --> 00:18:17,625 Speaker 1: if you do it, good luck to you. But if 420 00:18:17,665 --> 00:18:20,225 Speaker 1: you feel the pressure of waste forty minutes either side 421 00:18:20,265 --> 00:18:22,825 Speaker 1: of your day and night, don't don't begred. We're not 422 00:18:22,825 --> 00:18:23,105 Speaker 1: doing it. 423 00:18:23,105 --> 00:18:24,985 Speaker 3: Because it's really not going to make that big of 424 00:18:24,985 --> 00:18:27,025 Speaker 3: a difference at the end of the day, and it's 425 00:18:27,145 --> 00:18:30,305 Speaker 3: encouraging over consumption and it's just ridiculous. 426 00:18:30,345 --> 00:18:33,865 Speaker 1: Totally on that note, Thank you for listening. Don't forget 427 00:18:33,945 --> 00:18:37,225 Speaker 1: we love receiving your questions. Our Instagram account is at 428 00:18:37,225 --> 00:18:39,185 Speaker 1: you Beauty Podcast. 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