1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:15,265 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:15,305 --> 00:00:18,345 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast 3 00:00:18,465 --> 00:00:22,105 Speaker 1: is recorded on Hi Friends. It's Lee here, and it's Monday, 4 00:00:22,665 --> 00:00:25,585 Speaker 1: and not everyone loves Monday, but I do because over 5 00:00:25,665 --> 00:00:27,825 Speaker 1: on you Beauty, we have so much fun. And we 6 00:00:27,905 --> 00:00:30,425 Speaker 1: have a new segment called Beauty Bite. It's where Kelly 7 00:00:30,425 --> 00:00:35,025 Speaker 1: and I share random rogue and genius news tips or tricks. 8 00:00:35,345 --> 00:00:37,225 Speaker 1: So if you want to write near Monday, have a listen. 9 00:00:38,305 --> 00:00:42,185 Speaker 1: Makeup is my therapy. I'm in love, I'm obsessed and 10 00:00:42,225 --> 00:00:50,145 Speaker 1: I don't even feel jailty your body. Hello, and welcome 11 00:00:50,185 --> 00:00:52,465 Speaker 1: to you Beauty, the Podcast for Your Face. 12 00:00:52,545 --> 00:00:54,785 Speaker 2: I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly mccarroth, and you've got some 13 00:00:54,865 --> 00:00:55,425 Speaker 2: news for me. 14 00:00:55,505 --> 00:00:57,025 Speaker 1: It came out a few weeks ago now, but I 15 00:00:57,065 --> 00:00:58,545 Speaker 1: just said to you off air, did you see it? 16 00:00:58,585 --> 00:01:03,465 Speaker 1: But algorithm and I was like the Skim's beauty product launch. 17 00:01:04,065 --> 00:01:06,305 Speaker 1: It is one of those sort of you know how 18 00:01:06,465 --> 00:01:08,785 Speaker 1: you can get the Kabad and j beauty sheet masks 19 00:01:08,825 --> 00:01:11,745 Speaker 1: that have the fluid like get liquid and they snatched 20 00:01:11,825 --> 00:01:14,345 Speaker 1: your jaw. Yeah, so she's made this full like head 21 00:01:14,425 --> 00:01:19,145 Speaker 1: thing that snatches your jaw. The outrage has mean outrageous, 22 00:01:19,225 --> 00:01:22,105 Speaker 1: which I do agree with because it's like, can we 23 00:01:22,105 --> 00:01:25,185 Speaker 1: even just relax, But also she's definitely not the first 24 00:01:25,225 --> 00:01:28,185 Speaker 1: person to do it. They've been around for so long. No, yeah, 25 00:01:28,305 --> 00:01:31,985 Speaker 1: she's coppying so much criticism because like it's like impossible 26 00:01:31,985 --> 00:01:34,305 Speaker 1: beauty standards. You know, her whole brand is like sucking 27 00:01:34,345 --> 00:01:36,865 Speaker 1: in and perking up and did it, which I agree, 28 00:01:36,905 --> 00:01:39,385 Speaker 1: But then I also just think because she's the most 29 00:01:39,425 --> 00:01:40,985 Speaker 1: famous person to do it and it's. 30 00:01:40,825 --> 00:01:43,985 Speaker 2: Her, Yeah, I completely agree with you, Like, I don't 31 00:01:43,985 --> 00:01:46,105 Speaker 2: think she should be getting flack when so many other 32 00:01:46,145 --> 00:01:46,745 Speaker 2: brands do this. 33 00:01:46,945 --> 00:01:49,225 Speaker 1: Also, they wouldn't I know. I looked back in my 34 00:01:49,265 --> 00:01:50,825 Speaker 1: camera roll and I had an old one. I'll have 35 00:01:50,865 --> 00:01:52,345 Speaker 1: to find what it was. I mean, I don't have 36 00:01:52,385 --> 00:01:54,185 Speaker 1: it anymore. It was a single ye sheet mask thing, 37 00:01:54,225 --> 00:01:56,105 Speaker 1: but it went over your face and up behind your ears, 38 00:01:56,145 --> 00:01:57,665 Speaker 1: and you were meant to wear it for an hour and. 39 00:01:57,585 --> 00:01:58,585 Speaker 2: It's too uncomfortable. 40 00:01:58,945 --> 00:02:00,625 Speaker 1: I mean I wore it for an hour before an event. 41 00:02:00,665 --> 00:02:02,345 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it all the time. 42 00:02:01,985 --> 00:02:04,305 Speaker 2: But before an advent or a photo or something sort 43 00:02:04,305 --> 00:02:06,705 Speaker 2: of fancy thing. They actually do definitely work. But she 44 00:02:06,905 --> 00:02:10,145 Speaker 2: kind convent it. She invented, so why we shout at her? 45 00:02:10,385 --> 00:02:12,865 Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyway, that's a little bit of beauty news. 46 00:02:12,985 --> 00:02:14,545 Speaker 1: But what are we doing today? 47 00:02:15,585 --> 00:02:17,825 Speaker 2: I couldn't help, but Wonder asked me anything. 48 00:02:17,905 --> 00:02:19,065 Speaker 1: You ask many questions. 49 00:02:20,345 --> 00:02:22,625 Speaker 2: Well, we are answering your questions. So if you do 50 00:02:22,665 --> 00:02:25,545 Speaker 2: have a question, please let us know. You can dm 51 00:02:25,665 --> 00:02:28,945 Speaker 2: us as our lovely Olivia has today. Well, I'll read 52 00:02:28,985 --> 00:02:33,025 Speaker 2: what Olivia's Oh yes, please, Lovelyly. Is it okay to 53 00:02:33,105 --> 00:02:34,865 Speaker 2: send you a question for the Beauty podcast? 54 00:02:35,225 --> 00:02:35,825 Speaker 1: Of course. 55 00:02:36,305 --> 00:02:39,065 Speaker 2: I'm starting to see products with azalic acid, but I'm 56 00:02:39,105 --> 00:02:41,025 Speaker 2: not sure what it does. Where do I fit it 57 00:02:41,065 --> 00:02:44,585 Speaker 2: into my routine? Is it like an exfoliating acid, or 58 00:02:44,625 --> 00:02:48,225 Speaker 2: as you said, some serums that say acid are actually hydrating. 59 00:02:48,625 --> 00:02:50,585 Speaker 2: All of the acids confuse me and I don't want 60 00:02:50,625 --> 00:02:51,665 Speaker 2: to strip my skin. 61 00:02:52,345 --> 00:02:56,345 Speaker 1: Such a good question, and you're right to be cautious 62 00:02:56,345 --> 00:02:58,225 Speaker 1: before you add it first up. 63 00:02:58,305 --> 00:03:00,825 Speaker 2: This has just reminded me that so many years ago 64 00:03:00,945 --> 00:03:04,305 Speaker 2: I did a Thursday episode Deep Dive like the A 65 00:03:04,385 --> 00:03:07,585 Speaker 2: to Z of acids just acids, not ingredients. 66 00:03:07,745 --> 00:03:08,145 Speaker 1: Acids? 67 00:03:08,585 --> 00:03:10,665 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was. It's like and I didn't touch 68 00:03:10,665 --> 00:03:14,665 Speaker 2: on some of I think I did make a couple 69 00:03:14,665 --> 00:03:17,265 Speaker 2: of jokes more do you. I'm sure how many of 70 00:03:17,345 --> 00:03:19,225 Speaker 2: them made it into the final cut, but. 71 00:03:19,385 --> 00:03:21,065 Speaker 1: God, and I'm so silly. I just thought, oh, yeah, 72 00:03:21,105 --> 00:03:22,705 Speaker 1: because this is a good one for Z. But it 73 00:03:22,825 --> 00:03:27,265 Speaker 1: starts with but you do there's a Z acid? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 74 00:03:27,305 --> 00:03:30,305 Speaker 1: Well let's explain as alic acid for Olivia and the ubis, 75 00:03:30,345 --> 00:03:33,425 Speaker 1: because there's confusion around it and it feels quite underground. 76 00:03:33,425 --> 00:03:36,185 Speaker 1: Are quite new, and that's for a reason. So up 77 00:03:36,265 --> 00:03:39,305 Speaker 1: until about this time last year, late well mid to 78 00:03:39,385 --> 00:03:41,985 Speaker 1: late twenty twenty four, the TG changed its rules and 79 00:03:42,025 --> 00:03:45,665 Speaker 1: restrictions around the use of marketing and how you could 80 00:03:45,665 --> 00:03:48,705 Speaker 1: buy asalic acid. So at a certain percentage it was 81 00:03:48,705 --> 00:03:51,265 Speaker 1: considered a drug, you know, a medicine, so it was 82 00:03:51,345 --> 00:03:54,305 Speaker 1: behind the counter or prescription. But then they changed that. 83 00:03:54,465 --> 00:03:59,385 Speaker 1: Still there's variations around the percentage, but now brands that 84 00:03:59,425 --> 00:04:01,545 Speaker 1: you can just walk in and pick up can formulate 85 00:04:01,585 --> 00:04:03,385 Speaker 1: with it. So it feels like, oh, I don't know this, 86 00:04:03,465 --> 00:04:07,265 Speaker 1: but it's because it was more restricted before. So Olivia 87 00:04:07,345 --> 00:04:10,825 Speaker 1: is asking, is it exfoliating mildly? Let me tell you 88 00:04:10,905 --> 00:04:14,305 Speaker 1: about it, because you might not need it, my friend, Olivia, 89 00:04:14,465 --> 00:04:17,785 Speaker 1: So it's a pretty great ingredient. It helps with rhseaesia, 90 00:04:18,105 --> 00:04:22,105 Speaker 1: it helps with acne or breakouts, and it helps with hyperpigmentation. 91 00:04:22,265 --> 00:04:24,545 Speaker 1: So it's a bit of an all rounder, kind of 92 00:04:24,625 --> 00:04:28,265 Speaker 1: like we hear about our retinol a little bit like 93 00:04:28,425 --> 00:04:29,825 Speaker 1: nicinamide sort of. 94 00:04:30,065 --> 00:04:32,505 Speaker 2: I would say it's better for someone with rose asia 95 00:04:32,745 --> 00:04:36,105 Speaker 2: than retinol. Not always, oh yes, just because like a 96 00:04:36,145 --> 00:04:39,665 Speaker 2: lot of my roseesia girls love this ingredient because it's 97 00:04:40,305 --> 00:04:44,305 Speaker 2: gentle enough, like retinol is quite intense, so oh yeah, 98 00:04:44,505 --> 00:04:49,265 Speaker 2: rose sa is obviously very food sec yeah, exact people, 99 00:04:49,305 --> 00:04:51,745 Speaker 2: that's it. And so I mean it also depends on 100 00:04:51,785 --> 00:04:54,865 Speaker 2: the strength you get, same with retinol, but it's antibacterial 101 00:04:54,945 --> 00:04:57,625 Speaker 2: and anti inflammatory, which is why it's also great for breakouts. 102 00:04:57,665 --> 00:05:00,025 Speaker 2: And because it is an acid, like a proper acid, 103 00:05:00,025 --> 00:05:02,865 Speaker 2: not a hyaluronic acid, which they should just change that name. 104 00:05:03,145 --> 00:05:06,945 Speaker 2: It is gently exfoliating, so it can fade the marks 105 00:05:06,985 --> 00:05:10,025 Speaker 2: you might get after a breakout, you know, hyperpic imitation, 106 00:05:10,185 --> 00:05:14,185 Speaker 2: post blemish marks. It can reduce breakouts, which we love. 107 00:05:14,265 --> 00:05:16,945 Speaker 2: And I've been getting quite a few verslated, Oh my god, 108 00:05:16,985 --> 00:05:20,505 Speaker 2: why mercury are you in retrograde? Why is it coming 109 00:05:20,545 --> 00:05:21,225 Speaker 2: out on our skin. 110 00:05:21,345 --> 00:05:22,865 Speaker 1: I think it's like, well, one of those girls needs 111 00:05:22,865 --> 00:05:26,825 Speaker 1: to taste small acneve products. It's safer sensitive skin. Again, 112 00:05:27,345 --> 00:05:29,305 Speaker 1: still err on the side of caution. And it can 113 00:05:29,345 --> 00:05:32,625 Speaker 1: be used during pregnancy, which is great because a lot 114 00:05:32,665 --> 00:05:34,985 Speaker 1: of you know, things that are for pigmentation or you know, 115 00:05:35,065 --> 00:05:36,825 Speaker 1: anything that feels like it's doing anything you feel like 116 00:05:36,865 --> 00:05:39,225 Speaker 1: you can't use. So you can use it daily, but 117 00:05:39,345 --> 00:05:42,065 Speaker 1: start slow. You can even kind of use it morning 118 00:05:42,105 --> 00:05:44,185 Speaker 1: and night depending on the product, but it starts slow 119 00:05:44,305 --> 00:05:47,585 Speaker 1: just because it is an active ingredient. Before I tell 120 00:05:47,625 --> 00:05:49,425 Speaker 1: you some products, you need to assess the rest of 121 00:05:49,465 --> 00:05:52,025 Speaker 1: your routine because if you know this is quite an 122 00:05:52,025 --> 00:05:55,105 Speaker 1: active product, if you're already using a retinol, a vitamin 123 00:05:55,185 --> 00:05:58,345 Speaker 1: C A like, yeah, you don't need it. No, you 124 00:05:58,385 --> 00:06:01,705 Speaker 1: probably don't need it, but it might be worthwhile assessing 125 00:06:01,705 --> 00:06:03,785 Speaker 1: your whole routine and it could replace something else if 126 00:06:03,825 --> 00:06:05,945 Speaker 1: it's better for you. So look at your routine as 127 00:06:05,985 --> 00:06:08,385 Speaker 1: a whole. Check out what's active. Check out what they're doing, 128 00:06:08,425 --> 00:06:10,545 Speaker 1: because you don't want to ever do it. Some brands 129 00:06:11,105 --> 00:06:13,385 Speaker 1: our beautiful favorite to one of our favorite products, You 130 00:06:13,425 --> 00:06:16,865 Speaker 1: and I kellical brands, Naturia. They have two azaleic acid 131 00:06:16,865 --> 00:06:19,185 Speaker 1: products that's made in the US, so I think they 132 00:06:19,225 --> 00:06:22,145 Speaker 1: have always had, you know, more lax restrictions there, so 133 00:06:22,145 --> 00:06:26,145 Speaker 1: they brought it here. As clear is really popular. It's 134 00:06:26,145 --> 00:06:30,065 Speaker 1: just a pharmacy brand, quite not sexy packaging. It's a 135 00:06:30,265 --> 00:06:34,025 Speaker 1: Z clear that's more for you kind of hardcore breakouts. 136 00:06:34,065 --> 00:06:36,305 Speaker 1: Like I put that in the acne category where you 137 00:06:36,305 --> 00:06:39,025 Speaker 1: would go to like that medical acne area in the pharmacy. 138 00:06:39,225 --> 00:06:42,505 Speaker 1: Paula's choice of course Laroche Paz and a brand I 139 00:06:42,545 --> 00:06:45,185 Speaker 1: hadn't heard of, but it's got amazing reviews. Hello Skin, 140 00:06:45,465 --> 00:06:47,425 Speaker 1: they've got a really good one. So if you do 141 00:06:47,585 --> 00:06:49,345 Speaker 1: Google or go and have a look, you'll find that 142 00:06:49,425 --> 00:06:53,265 Speaker 1: most azalek acid products are marketed to breakouts. But have 143 00:06:53,305 --> 00:06:55,505 Speaker 1: a look around. I feel like now, I mean that 144 00:06:55,665 --> 00:06:58,385 Speaker 1: was a year ago that the TGA lifted the restrictions. 145 00:06:58,385 --> 00:07:00,905 Speaker 1: It's definitely more, but I think more and more brands 146 00:07:00,945 --> 00:07:02,305 Speaker 1: are like, oh okay, we can use that now in 147 00:07:02,345 --> 00:07:04,225 Speaker 1: a better percentage, or we can talk about that now. 148 00:07:04,265 --> 00:07:05,705 Speaker 1: So I think we'll see more and more of it. 149 00:07:06,625 --> 00:07:09,025 Speaker 1: I did not have any in my collection. I want 150 00:07:09,065 --> 00:07:10,865 Speaker 1: to give it a go, obviously, put for me, I 151 00:07:10,865 --> 00:07:13,065 Speaker 1: mean I do get the odd spot, but for me, 152 00:07:13,185 --> 00:07:18,505 Speaker 1: the pigmentation situation and I'm not sensitive, but I'm sensorized 153 00:07:18,745 --> 00:07:21,185 Speaker 1: my skin from all the chopping and change. Yeah, so 154 00:07:21,225 --> 00:07:24,105 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hunt one out and report back. Yeah, report 155 00:07:24,105 --> 00:07:25,625 Speaker 1: back because I went through my bathroom and I was like, 156 00:07:25,665 --> 00:07:29,905 Speaker 1: I've got to have one somewhere. Nope. Yeah, So long 157 00:07:29,905 --> 00:07:31,825 Speaker 1: story short, Olivia, check out what you're doing. If you've 158 00:07:31,825 --> 00:07:34,265 Speaker 1: got breakouts, give it a go. If you're already using 159 00:07:34,265 --> 00:07:36,625 Speaker 1: a RETINOLV that you laugh. I wouldn't switch, but that's 160 00:07:36,625 --> 00:07:37,385 Speaker 1: what that guy is. 161 00:07:43,185 --> 00:07:46,305 Speaker 2: Kaz has also sent to us a DM. Hello, I 162 00:07:46,345 --> 00:07:51,265 Speaker 2: love the pod, especially Monday apps. My question is about 163 00:07:51,305 --> 00:07:53,425 Speaker 2: lines and creepy skin on the neck, I mean my 164 00:07:53,465 --> 00:07:57,065 Speaker 2: early fifties and really noticing this. I've tried the boost 165 00:07:57,145 --> 00:08:00,265 Speaker 2: Lab Next serum and now the Trinny Elevator cream with 166 00:08:00,425 --> 00:08:04,145 Speaker 2: only very minor results. What are your suggestions any other 167 00:08:04,225 --> 00:08:06,225 Speaker 2: serums or skin treatments I could try? 168 00:08:06,625 --> 00:08:11,585 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Kaz Cauz. I feel you early fifties. 169 00:08:11,745 --> 00:08:14,585 Speaker 1: I'm forty three and I swear well not overnight, but 170 00:08:14,785 --> 00:08:16,385 Speaker 1: and I've always done my neck care. 171 00:08:16,625 --> 00:08:17,785 Speaker 2: You've got a beautiful net. 172 00:08:17,865 --> 00:08:22,745 Speaker 1: Oh becaus yes, okay, so listen, we could only do 173 00:08:22,825 --> 00:08:25,545 Speaker 1: so much topically, and whatever we're going to do, we 174 00:08:25,625 --> 00:08:29,665 Speaker 1: have to do consistently and be patient. So the number 175 00:08:29,705 --> 00:08:32,625 Speaker 1: one recommended thing for this area is retinal. But the 176 00:08:32,785 --> 00:08:35,425 Speaker 1: skin from your neck, like you'd under your chin down 177 00:08:35,465 --> 00:08:38,545 Speaker 1: to here, is thinner and much more sensitive to the 178 00:08:38,585 --> 00:08:40,865 Speaker 1: skin on your face minus the skin under your eyes, 179 00:08:40,905 --> 00:08:42,785 Speaker 1: which is pretty much similar to this skin. So don't 180 00:08:42,785 --> 00:08:46,065 Speaker 1: go whacking your prescription retinal or your strong retinal straight 181 00:08:46,105 --> 00:08:46,585 Speaker 1: down here. 182 00:08:46,745 --> 00:08:48,865 Speaker 2: You taught me that, and that blew my mind. I 183 00:08:48,865 --> 00:08:50,385 Speaker 2: don't know why I didn't know that, but I just 184 00:08:50,505 --> 00:08:53,025 Speaker 2: always assumed. I know, not it makes sense, but I always 185 00:08:53,065 --> 00:08:54,825 Speaker 2: assumed anything that wasn't your. 186 00:08:54,665 --> 00:08:57,585 Speaker 1: Face with thicker, robust no, because this bit. But then 187 00:08:57,625 --> 00:08:59,425 Speaker 1: you go to your arms and everywhere else and that's 188 00:08:59,465 --> 00:09:00,585 Speaker 1: thicker and more resilient. 189 00:09:00,665 --> 00:09:03,225 Speaker 2: So this area is pretty skin guy like, why do 190 00:09:03,345 --> 00:09:04,505 Speaker 2: we come out with different skin. 191 00:09:05,145 --> 00:09:09,625 Speaker 1: I'm gonna recommend some specific neck like chin to nip 192 00:09:09,705 --> 00:09:12,385 Speaker 1: pool products. But whatever you do, if you do have 193 00:09:12,425 --> 00:09:14,465 Speaker 1: a retinol that you like, you could sandwich it, or 194 00:09:14,505 --> 00:09:16,585 Speaker 1: you could just go by an affordable face retinol that's 195 00:09:16,625 --> 00:09:20,945 Speaker 1: at a lower percentage hydration so I would do retinol 196 00:09:20,985 --> 00:09:23,145 Speaker 1: maybe build up to most nights, but then hydration. I 197 00:09:23,145 --> 00:09:25,705 Speaker 1: would almost like missed, Well, this is what I've been doing. 198 00:09:25,745 --> 00:09:28,145 Speaker 1: If anyone's gonna look at me, it's so different when 199 00:09:28,185 --> 00:09:30,705 Speaker 1: I'm not on camera, I missed, and then I'll do 200 00:09:30,745 --> 00:09:33,305 Speaker 1: a hydrating serum and then a lightweight moisturizer like I 201 00:09:33,385 --> 00:09:35,465 Speaker 1: give my neck almost like a treatment like my face. 202 00:09:35,505 --> 00:09:38,025 Speaker 1: It's not just like one swape swape swipe. I've got 203 00:09:38,025 --> 00:09:40,025 Speaker 1: some expensive ones and some affordable ones because we love 204 00:09:40,025 --> 00:09:42,225 Speaker 1: a spend diesel. Everything in the show notes though, so 205 00:09:42,465 --> 00:09:44,785 Speaker 1: oh yes, everything's in the show notes. Doctor as always, 206 00:09:44,945 --> 00:09:49,265 Speaker 1: Doctor Naomi hit the deck because it's decolatile. Ah, I 207 00:09:49,265 --> 00:09:50,985 Speaker 1: think that's about one hundred and fifty dollars month, So 208 00:09:51,105 --> 00:09:53,385 Speaker 1: I've used. It's very good, it's quite strong build up. 209 00:09:54,265 --> 00:09:57,985 Speaker 1: Just because it's quite strong doesn't mean you should expect 210 00:09:58,065 --> 00:10:01,545 Speaker 1: results immediately. This is going to take three to six months. 211 00:10:01,985 --> 00:10:05,385 Speaker 1: So with all of these, I mean that an affordable one. Now, 212 00:10:05,585 --> 00:10:09,025 Speaker 1: Rock Skincare has a really great neck and like decoltage cream, 213 00:10:09,385 --> 00:10:11,785 Speaker 1: really beautiful. That's forty two ninety nine. Do you can 214 00:10:11,785 --> 00:10:14,065 Speaker 1: get that wherever you get Rock Skincare are you know, 215 00:10:14,145 --> 00:10:16,625 Speaker 1: the big er, little old big c not Life. 216 00:10:16,785 --> 00:10:20,225 Speaker 2: It's a chemist brand, but not a chemist brand. 217 00:10:20,385 --> 00:10:22,185 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it? Really? Wow? 218 00:10:22,345 --> 00:10:23,585 Speaker 2: That was that made sense. 219 00:10:23,785 --> 00:10:25,985 Speaker 1: It's actually very not very under the radar. But I'm 220 00:10:25,985 --> 00:10:28,185 Speaker 1: always impressed with the stuff that I I've. 221 00:10:28,025 --> 00:10:28,825 Speaker 2: Never tried a dud. 222 00:10:29,185 --> 00:10:32,825 Speaker 1: You same, They're really good. Number seven also has one. 223 00:10:33,145 --> 00:10:35,305 Speaker 1: I when I was researching this yesterday, I ordered it 224 00:10:35,305 --> 00:10:37,705 Speaker 1: from Priceline four price. It's fifty nine to ninety nine. 225 00:10:38,185 --> 00:10:40,745 Speaker 1: I was reading a whole bunch of reviews from around 226 00:10:40,745 --> 00:10:42,825 Speaker 1: the world and it sounded great, So it's on its 227 00:10:42,825 --> 00:10:46,265 Speaker 1: way to me because I was like, Gus, Yes, exorbitantly 228 00:10:46,305 --> 00:10:49,305 Speaker 1: expensive is a skin Suitical's neck cream two hundred and 229 00:10:49,385 --> 00:10:50,345 Speaker 1: forty nine dollars? 230 00:10:50,385 --> 00:10:53,705 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I know, I mean amazing reviews. 231 00:10:53,785 --> 00:10:55,665 Speaker 1: I'm not spending two hundred fifty dollars on my neck 232 00:10:55,745 --> 00:10:58,265 Speaker 1: like I care, but not as much as my face. 233 00:10:58,265 --> 00:10:59,945 Speaker 1: And I'm already in love with so many of the serums. 234 00:10:59,945 --> 00:11:03,385 Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, Bare Minerals has one that I've not tried. 235 00:11:03,385 --> 00:11:04,625 Speaker 2: It that mainly did make up. 236 00:11:04,705 --> 00:11:06,545 Speaker 1: I know, No, they do some really good skincare. This 237 00:11:06,585 --> 00:11:09,465 Speaker 1: is one hundred and eighteen and fresh skincare also has 238 00:11:09,505 --> 00:11:11,825 Speaker 1: one one hundred and fifty five dollars, so if you 239 00:11:11,865 --> 00:11:14,865 Speaker 1: want to find a specific product, it's definitely out there. 240 00:11:15,665 --> 00:11:17,985 Speaker 1: If it were me, I would probably just go to 241 00:11:18,305 --> 00:11:21,385 Speaker 1: your number seven, your ola and buy a retinol, like 242 00:11:21,425 --> 00:11:24,225 Speaker 1: you get a specific retinal for your neck, or you 243 00:11:24,265 --> 00:11:26,825 Speaker 1: know the Elizabeth Ardan retnols that are really hydrating this, 244 00:11:27,025 --> 00:11:30,025 Speaker 1: so there's one that you love. I would almost go, okay, 245 00:11:30,065 --> 00:11:32,745 Speaker 1: you're my neck retinal. And then you could also like 246 00:11:32,905 --> 00:11:34,985 Speaker 1: have a separate routine for your neck as you're building 247 00:11:35,025 --> 00:11:38,585 Speaker 1: that up specifically, because I'm assuming kas you know, you're 248 00:11:38,625 --> 00:11:41,065 Speaker 1: into skincare and you're in your fifties, your face might 249 00:11:41,105 --> 00:11:43,945 Speaker 1: be more used to anti aging products than your neck. 250 00:11:43,985 --> 00:11:47,305 Speaker 1: So almost go okay, face tonight, this is your routine, 251 00:11:47,305 --> 00:11:49,665 Speaker 1: and then next this is your routine and like catch 252 00:11:49,705 --> 00:11:52,945 Speaker 1: it up. Yeah you know what I mean. Sunscreen because 253 00:11:53,265 --> 00:11:57,665 Speaker 1: sunscreen and always from your well, your forehead to your nipples, 254 00:11:57,785 --> 00:12:01,905 Speaker 1: because what the sun exposure does is degrade the college 255 00:12:01,905 --> 00:12:04,625 Speaker 1: and the lastin and that's why it's getting whoby. If 256 00:12:04,665 --> 00:12:08,585 Speaker 1: it's really bothering you and you wanted to do a treatment, yes, 257 00:12:08,625 --> 00:12:11,505 Speaker 1: there's lots of options. Are a skin tightening. So radio 258 00:12:11,545 --> 00:12:15,705 Speaker 1: frequency hyphoo, I've done hyphoo. That's that really weird one. 259 00:12:15,985 --> 00:12:17,945 Speaker 1: It tightens, But i'd also kind of got rid of 260 00:12:17,985 --> 00:12:20,585 Speaker 1: that for me. They explained what that is to anyone's past. 261 00:12:20,705 --> 00:12:22,865 Speaker 1: Sorry her turkey, I don't know her. 262 00:12:23,545 --> 00:12:27,305 Speaker 2: Go toad, toad or turkey gobble. 263 00:12:27,425 --> 00:12:30,985 Speaker 1: Yes, toads have the ball, Yeah they do too, poor turkeys. 264 00:12:31,025 --> 00:12:31,705 Speaker 1: They're always the one. 265 00:12:31,785 --> 00:12:33,585 Speaker 2: They're the ones that get what I always think of 266 00:12:33,585 --> 00:12:33,985 Speaker 2: a toad. 267 00:12:34,345 --> 00:12:37,425 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean I had two sessions, I think, 268 00:12:37,425 --> 00:12:39,705 Speaker 1: and it was quite not quite painful. It was like 269 00:12:40,425 --> 00:12:43,865 Speaker 1: it felt like electric anyway, Okay, it was fine. Intense 270 00:12:43,905 --> 00:12:46,305 Speaker 1: pulse lights of ipl there's certain ones that can do that, 271 00:12:46,465 --> 00:12:49,225 Speaker 1: lasers or there's a treatment called ultraforma that is specifically 272 00:12:49,225 --> 00:12:51,585 Speaker 1: about skin tightening. You're gonna need a few sessions of those. 273 00:12:51,625 --> 00:12:54,385 Speaker 1: It's gonna be expensive. If I were you, I'd go 274 00:12:54,425 --> 00:12:57,065 Speaker 1: find yourself a net cream or a retinal that's right, 275 00:12:57,425 --> 00:12:59,905 Speaker 1: and then I'd put it in your diary like I'm 276 00:12:59,905 --> 00:13:01,985 Speaker 1: starting this now, and then in three months within your 277 00:13:02,025 --> 00:13:04,305 Speaker 1: diary house monet going, and then in six months. Because 278 00:13:04,345 --> 00:13:07,185 Speaker 1: it's not an overnight fix, but it's a commitment but 279 00:13:07,225 --> 00:13:09,225 Speaker 1: it can be done. I mean, look at our glorious faces. 280 00:13:09,345 --> 00:13:13,305 Speaker 1: Just give you a comp to the that's it. So 281 00:13:13,345 --> 00:13:15,865 Speaker 1: hopefully that helps, Kaz, But I feel your sister. I'm 282 00:13:15,905 --> 00:13:19,265 Speaker 1: just gonna keep wearing turtlenecks until I've sorted mine out. Oh, 283 00:13:19,505 --> 00:13:21,145 Speaker 1: she says, wearing a deep, deep plunge. 284 00:13:21,945 --> 00:13:24,305 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have like whatever you've done on. 285 00:13:24,225 --> 00:13:26,745 Speaker 1: Your mind, it's fake. So what I do is I 286 00:13:26,785 --> 00:13:30,145 Speaker 1: wake up dry and revolting, and I do my makeup, 287 00:13:30,145 --> 00:13:32,985 Speaker 1: but then I just skin flood my whole neck down 288 00:13:33,025 --> 00:13:35,745 Speaker 1: to my nips, and then I mix my foundation with 289 00:13:35,905 --> 00:13:37,865 Speaker 1: my last step of my body cream because that's a 290 00:13:37,905 --> 00:13:38,745 Speaker 1: lot of pigmentation. 291 00:13:38,825 --> 00:13:40,585 Speaker 2: Remember that day that I forgot that I'd put a 292 00:13:40,585 --> 00:13:42,465 Speaker 2: little bit of makeup on and you were like, not 293 00:13:42,545 --> 00:13:46,345 Speaker 2: a chance. Is your chest skin that beautiful? You must 294 00:13:46,385 --> 00:13:48,145 Speaker 2: have someone And then I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I. 295 00:13:48,105 --> 00:13:49,585 Speaker 1: Probably would I have to do all the time. 296 00:13:49,785 --> 00:13:51,665 Speaker 2: Yes, I would put like even just a little bit 297 00:13:51,665 --> 00:13:52,945 Speaker 2: of concealer mixing with moisture. 298 00:13:53,105 --> 00:13:55,625 Speaker 1: Yeah, without thanking on that I've done my foundation. Bronzo 299 00:13:55,745 --> 00:13:57,905 Speaker 1: is darker than my body, particularly in the middle of winter, 300 00:13:57,985 --> 00:14:01,665 Speaker 1: so it would be like I was wearing a white mask. Yeah, exactly, 301 00:14:07,025 --> 00:14:11,425 Speaker 1: all right, kell, I've done a lot of talking beauty's beauty. 302 00:14:11,425 --> 00:14:13,465 Speaker 2: Well, the funny thing is with the beauty bite. I 303 00:14:13,505 --> 00:14:16,825 Speaker 2: want us to discuss it together because we need to 304 00:14:16,865 --> 00:14:18,345 Speaker 2: talk about the Golden Hour facial. 305 00:14:18,985 --> 00:14:19,625 Speaker 1: Have you had one? 306 00:14:19,665 --> 00:14:22,265 Speaker 2: What in the magic So a little bit of a backstory. 307 00:14:22,705 --> 00:14:25,945 Speaker 2: A couple of probably like six weeks ago, you had 308 00:14:26,145 --> 00:14:29,705 Speaker 2: this facial. It was called the Golden How facial. It 309 00:14:29,745 --> 00:14:34,465 Speaker 2: was that sensation boutique in bron Tea, Sydney. But it's 310 00:14:34,505 --> 00:14:37,625 Speaker 2: any so they have it at other clinics around Australia. 311 00:14:37,625 --> 00:14:39,065 Speaker 2: You just have to look on the website, which we 312 00:14:39,105 --> 00:14:41,945 Speaker 2: will link in the show notes. And Lee doesn't get 313 00:14:41,985 --> 00:14:43,705 Speaker 2: that many facials. You don't have time, you don't like 314 00:14:43,745 --> 00:14:46,265 Speaker 2: to lie still, and you were like, it was one 315 00:14:46,305 --> 00:14:48,345 Speaker 2: of the best facials I've ever had, so obviously then 316 00:14:48,465 --> 00:14:51,865 Speaker 2: I needed to go and get it because I love 317 00:14:51,865 --> 00:14:52,305 Speaker 2: a facial. 318 00:14:52,505 --> 00:14:55,225 Speaker 1: Foo. Oh do you really love a facial? Do you 319 00:14:55,225 --> 00:14:59,705 Speaker 1: love the results or the experience? Ah? I hate both. 320 00:14:59,985 --> 00:15:02,425 Speaker 1: I just don't. I just get so anxious about the time. 321 00:15:02,425 --> 00:15:03,385 Speaker 1: I like results. 322 00:15:03,505 --> 00:15:06,865 Speaker 2: But the thing is I kept thinking about you because. 323 00:15:07,705 --> 00:15:10,425 Speaker 1: When you had no chop on and you're being mas massage. 324 00:15:10,705 --> 00:15:14,225 Speaker 2: The thing about a good skin therapist is that they 325 00:15:14,385 --> 00:15:17,025 Speaker 2: will tailor it to you. Yes, And it was so 326 00:15:17,145 --> 00:15:19,985 Speaker 2: funny because I just thought, there is no way that 327 00:15:20,065 --> 00:15:23,705 Speaker 2: Lee got this exact facial because mine went for almost 328 00:15:23,705 --> 00:15:24,225 Speaker 2: two hours. 329 00:15:24,265 --> 00:15:27,105 Speaker 1: Mine was ninety minutes. I think, oh, I can't remember 330 00:15:27,145 --> 00:15:29,305 Speaker 1: I fell asleep. Remember I fell asleep? You did? Because 331 00:15:29,905 --> 00:15:31,425 Speaker 1: like that, I said, did I fall asleep? And she 332 00:15:31,505 --> 00:15:32,505 Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah. 333 00:15:32,505 --> 00:15:34,185 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe we did get the exact same one because 334 00:15:34,185 --> 00:15:36,265 Speaker 2: I thought there's no way that Lee would actually sit 335 00:15:36,305 --> 00:15:38,185 Speaker 2: here this on. But if you fell asleep, that makes sense. 336 00:15:38,265 --> 00:15:42,185 Speaker 1: Yeah. Mine was phenomenal. So it's a Vanessa Meghan customized. 337 00:15:42,225 --> 00:15:43,465 Speaker 1: They use gold in one. 338 00:15:43,385 --> 00:15:45,465 Speaker 2: Of like they literally use we need to put a 339 00:15:45,465 --> 00:15:49,545 Speaker 2: photo in here. They literally put It's very unsexy while 340 00:15:49,545 --> 00:15:51,825 Speaker 2: they're doing it because they're just kind of like plastering 341 00:15:52,025 --> 00:15:53,265 Speaker 2: gold onto your face. 342 00:15:53,265 --> 00:15:55,985 Speaker 1: Okay, No, I didn't have that, like you had sheets 343 00:15:56,025 --> 00:15:56,425 Speaker 1: of gold. 344 00:15:56,545 --> 00:15:59,985 Speaker 2: Yeah, I must have been asleepep because that was you 345 00:16:00,025 --> 00:16:01,665 Speaker 2: definitely would have had that because that's part of the 346 00:16:01,705 --> 00:16:02,985 Speaker 2: gold in our facial. 347 00:16:03,865 --> 00:16:07,225 Speaker 1: But I think that one of them had a CCTV. 348 00:16:07,625 --> 00:16:10,905 Speaker 2: Is that in our industry, Lean I both sometimes can 349 00:16:10,945 --> 00:16:14,305 Speaker 2: get a little bit cynical, of cynical, but a little 350 00:16:14,305 --> 00:16:19,225 Speaker 2: bit like oh about natural products or purely natural. 351 00:16:19,985 --> 00:16:23,065 Speaker 1: I don't think it's cynical. I think that that we've 352 00:16:23,105 --> 00:16:26,985 Speaker 1: tried so many treatments and products that there's plenty we 353 00:16:27,025 --> 00:16:29,025 Speaker 1: don't talk about that don't work. Like treatments we have 354 00:16:29,065 --> 00:16:34,465 Speaker 1: our products we try, so to be impressed is pretty impressive, exactly. 355 00:16:34,705 --> 00:16:37,945 Speaker 2: So a lot of the time it takes like hardcore science. 356 00:16:38,065 --> 00:16:41,265 Speaker 2: So really yeah, yes, but oh my goodness, these Vanessa 357 00:16:41,345 --> 00:16:44,945 Speaker 2: Megan products and the skill of the therapist. It was 358 00:16:45,265 --> 00:16:47,145 Speaker 2: just outstandings. 359 00:16:47,505 --> 00:16:50,265 Speaker 1: Do super firm facial, Yeah, because that's what I think, 360 00:16:50,305 --> 00:16:52,065 Speaker 1: that's what put me to sleep. We wonder if I 361 00:16:52,065 --> 00:16:52,985 Speaker 1: had gold on my face. 362 00:16:52,985 --> 00:16:55,385 Speaker 2: It was just outstanding, and it's such a gold. 363 00:16:55,425 --> 00:16:59,465 Speaker 1: Gold is so beautiful gift to either yourself or for 364 00:16:59,545 --> 00:17:02,505 Speaker 1: someone else, or just the products. Honestly, I'm Vanessa Megan 365 00:17:02,545 --> 00:17:03,985 Speaker 1: has always been on my radar, but on and off, 366 00:17:03,985 --> 00:17:06,825 Speaker 1: and then it's way back on now because I just loved. 367 00:17:06,585 --> 00:17:08,905 Speaker 2: It anyway, So I was just so impressed. So definitely 368 00:17:08,945 --> 00:17:10,905 Speaker 2: have a look if you're after a facial that feels 369 00:17:10,905 --> 00:17:14,065 Speaker 2: good but also does something, and it can totally We 370 00:17:14,105 --> 00:17:15,945 Speaker 2: always say, you can't just get a one off facial 371 00:17:15,985 --> 00:17:17,665 Speaker 2: because there's no point. You may as well invest in 372 00:17:17,665 --> 00:17:19,145 Speaker 2: a good sim You actually. 373 00:17:18,785 --> 00:17:20,825 Speaker 1: Could, well, you know what you could, because I don't 374 00:17:20,825 --> 00:17:22,905 Speaker 1: sleep at night. The fact that I fell asleep during 375 00:17:22,905 --> 00:17:24,345 Speaker 1: the day while someone was touching me. 376 00:17:24,545 --> 00:17:26,745 Speaker 2: Very respensive nap. Yeah, two hundred and sixty. 377 00:17:26,505 --> 00:17:30,025 Speaker 1: Five by a regardless, but obviously we're both Sydney Bass. 378 00:17:30,025 --> 00:17:31,265 Speaker 1: We'll link in the show notes and you can have 379 00:17:31,265 --> 00:17:33,265 Speaker 1: a look around the country if you want to try it. Well, 380 00:17:33,305 --> 00:17:34,385 Speaker 1: mine's way less sexy. 381 00:17:34,665 --> 00:17:37,305 Speaker 2: Oh there's no gold, no topless massage. 382 00:17:37,465 --> 00:17:41,745 Speaker 1: No, but it involves shoes and deodorant and nothing to 383 00:17:41,785 --> 00:17:44,905 Speaker 1: do with smell. So winter's almost over. I hate winter shoes. 384 00:17:45,025 --> 00:17:47,865 Speaker 1: You hate winter shoes. They're so hard to like. I 385 00:17:47,905 --> 00:17:48,625 Speaker 1: get that ham. 386 00:17:48,625 --> 00:17:50,665 Speaker 2: High put a sock on with a heel because my 387 00:17:50,705 --> 00:17:51,265 Speaker 2: feet are cold. 388 00:17:51,265 --> 00:17:52,905 Speaker 1: All you're the cool girls do. But then it's just 389 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:54,905 Speaker 1: like the ham and the shoe and the practice anyway. 390 00:17:55,025 --> 00:17:58,385 Speaker 2: Yeah, my hem is wet. Yeah, right, even though I'm 391 00:17:58,385 --> 00:17:58,865 Speaker 2: wearing a heel. 392 00:17:58,865 --> 00:18:00,105 Speaker 1: But even for me, it just is hard to make 393 00:18:00,105 --> 00:18:02,425 Speaker 1: the outfit look good. So I've still got some flats 394 00:18:02,425 --> 00:18:04,905 Speaker 1: that I've purchased, been going to break in trying to 395 00:18:04,945 --> 00:18:06,505 Speaker 1: break in, Like you know how breaking in a flat 396 00:18:06,585 --> 00:18:09,265 Speaker 1: is just so annoying anyway, Like it's what flight do 397 00:18:09,265 --> 00:18:11,305 Speaker 1: you have to like a loafer or a balance? 398 00:18:11,545 --> 00:18:13,945 Speaker 2: You know they're just too awful? Yeah, right, too offul 399 00:18:13,985 --> 00:18:16,145 Speaker 2: you you spend two hundred dollars on good quality leather, 400 00:18:16,225 --> 00:18:17,865 Speaker 2: used to have to break it in? Absolutely not. 401 00:18:17,945 --> 00:18:19,625 Speaker 1: Well, I've got a hack for you, my friend. So 402 00:18:19,705 --> 00:18:21,345 Speaker 1: then I'm always the one going I could do this 403 00:18:21,385 --> 00:18:23,065 Speaker 1: and then halfway through the day'm running seven eleven to 404 00:18:23,065 --> 00:18:24,705 Speaker 1: find blister pads and blah blah blah. Guess what the 405 00:18:24,745 --> 00:18:27,225 Speaker 1: Internet told me to do, and it works. Put the 406 00:18:27,265 --> 00:18:29,305 Speaker 1: shoe on obviously before you get to blister stage, but 407 00:18:29,305 --> 00:18:33,305 Speaker 1: where it's rubbing, get deodorant ideally not spray on obviously, 408 00:18:33,305 --> 00:18:35,705 Speaker 1: but ideally like the creamy one. So you don't want 409 00:18:35,705 --> 00:18:37,905 Speaker 1: to do this on the Swede shoes. You rub deodorant 410 00:18:37,905 --> 00:18:41,025 Speaker 1: on the bit where it rubs, then put your shoe on. Gone, 411 00:18:41,105 --> 00:18:43,825 Speaker 1: the rub is gone. It acts like lubrication protection. 412 00:18:44,385 --> 00:18:46,545 Speaker 2: Wow, I would think that it would rub more and 413 00:18:46,585 --> 00:18:47,185 Speaker 2: then you'd. 414 00:18:47,025 --> 00:18:49,065 Speaker 1: Get like, I think that's obviously why you can't use 415 00:18:49,105 --> 00:18:51,785 Speaker 1: the spray because it's like powder. Yeah, but when you 416 00:18:51,865 --> 00:18:54,665 Speaker 1: use those creamy ones, Yeah, it acts like a buffer 417 00:18:54,705 --> 00:18:57,185 Speaker 1: and just kind of like, I don't know, it warms 418 00:18:57,185 --> 00:18:59,225 Speaker 1: it up anyway, like it doesn't rub for the rest 419 00:18:59,225 --> 00:19:00,945 Speaker 1: of the day. And I swear it's made my shoes 420 00:19:00,945 --> 00:19:01,745 Speaker 1: break into. 421 00:19:01,825 --> 00:19:04,145 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I love that so much. 422 00:19:04,425 --> 00:19:06,585 Speaker 1: I find another hack for deodorant considering I love it 423 00:19:06,585 --> 00:19:09,065 Speaker 1: on my lips, like not my lips, like my sweating lip. 424 00:19:09,065 --> 00:19:11,585 Speaker 2: You it's been geodorizing with the new Rick's owner or 425 00:19:11,585 --> 00:19:14,305 Speaker 2: body under the boobies, so it works. 426 00:19:14,345 --> 00:19:16,065 Speaker 1: So, I mean, I know winter's nearly over, but we 427 00:19:16,145 --> 00:19:17,825 Speaker 1: all like to wear a clothes in shoe if you've 428 00:19:17,825 --> 00:19:19,705 Speaker 1: got it, even a heel that wraps. Just don't do 429 00:19:19,745 --> 00:19:21,225 Speaker 1: it on swede because you might get a bit of 430 00:19:21,265 --> 00:19:25,185 Speaker 1: the like deodor and yeah, but if it's a leather shoe, 431 00:19:25,545 --> 00:19:28,785 Speaker 1: because you can wipe the videoto and off. What have no? 432 00:19:29,225 --> 00:19:29,985 Speaker 1: Thanks Internet? 433 00:19:30,105 --> 00:19:32,865 Speaker 2: All right, well I'm going to go try that. But 434 00:19:33,185 --> 00:19:35,425 Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us. Whether you've got 435 00:19:35,505 --> 00:19:38,665 Speaker 2: us in your ears or you're watching us on YouTube. 436 00:19:39,025 --> 00:19:41,225 Speaker 2: Remember that we have just a you Beauty show. It's 437 00:19:41,265 --> 00:19:43,345 Speaker 2: not like you Beauty Show, just a You Beauty channel. 438 00:19:43,385 --> 00:19:45,585 Speaker 2: It's not Mom and Maya, it's just you, beauty, so 439 00:19:45,625 --> 00:19:46,825 Speaker 2: you can come and join us over there. 440 00:19:47,225 --> 00:19:49,505 Speaker 1: We do have our very own YouTube channel and for 441 00:19:49,545 --> 00:19:52,025 Speaker 1: anyone that might have been confused myself also, it's the 442 00:19:52,105 --> 00:19:55,065 Speaker 1: episode s drop first thing in the morning, but then 443 00:19:55,105 --> 00:19:57,385 Speaker 1: it goes up on the YouTube channel that night about 444 00:19:57,425 --> 00:19:59,865 Speaker 1: seven pm always, so if you really want to listen, 445 00:20:00,025 --> 00:20:01,865 Speaker 1: have a lesson, and then if you want to see us, 446 00:20:02,065 --> 00:20:05,145 Speaker 1: you know, me barefoot with my cleavage, Kelly looking very 447 00:20:05,385 --> 00:20:08,305 Speaker 1: professional today, the YouTube clip goes up in the evening. 448 00:20:08,505 --> 00:20:10,705 Speaker 1: Just so you know, thank you for listening, thank you 449 00:20:10,745 --> 00:20:24,705 Speaker 1: for watching, and we'll see Friday. Bye.