1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:15,385 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges the 2 00:00:15,425 --> 00:00:18,545 Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is 3 00:00:18,585 --> 00:00:22,785 Speaker 1: recorded on. Whoever said orange is a new pink with 4 00:00:22,945 --> 00:00:27,585 Speaker 1: seriously disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you. 5 00:00:27,705 --> 00:00:29,745 Speaker 2: Have to do it. You live for fashion? 6 00:00:31,425 --> 00:00:34,745 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear Lee Here. Now today, 7 00:00:34,745 --> 00:00:37,545 Speaker 1: I've got Live James coming back. Live is twenty five 8 00:00:37,585 --> 00:00:40,065 Speaker 1: and runs the social Here Mamma Mia, and she is 9 00:00:40,145 --> 00:00:43,705 Speaker 1: so stylish. So we're going to talk two generations, why 10 00:00:43,785 --> 00:00:47,825 Speaker 1: we fight about socks and everything in between. Live James 11 00:00:47,865 --> 00:00:50,945 Speaker 1: Welcome Back. We were supposed to only do one episode 12 00:00:51,025 --> 00:00:54,105 Speaker 1: on our different generations and what we wear, but we 13 00:00:54,105 --> 00:00:56,225 Speaker 1: couldn't stop talking, so we have a lot to say. 14 00:00:56,385 --> 00:00:59,385 Speaker 1: Turned it into two. So I wanted to get into 15 00:00:59,425 --> 00:01:01,345 Speaker 1: some quick fire questions and a bit more of an 16 00:01:01,425 --> 00:01:05,505 Speaker 1: interrogation into your style and the generation of people your age. 17 00:01:05,665 --> 00:01:08,505 Speaker 1: Do you have a wallet? No? What do you mean? 18 00:01:08,865 --> 00:01:12,025 Speaker 2: No? Everything I need is on my phone. 19 00:01:12,025 --> 00:01:13,225 Speaker 1: What if your phone dies? 20 00:01:13,625 --> 00:01:15,505 Speaker 2: But it doesn't, That's just like not a situation that 21 00:01:15,545 --> 00:01:19,145 Speaker 2: I would allow to happen. And I would just go 22 00:01:19,185 --> 00:01:21,385 Speaker 2: and ask someone to charge it, or I'd say to my. 23 00:01:21,305 --> 00:01:23,425 Speaker 1: Friends, your medicare on your app thing. 24 00:01:23,505 --> 00:01:25,305 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've just got the number on my notes. 25 00:01:25,585 --> 00:01:28,625 Speaker 1: Oh good, And your license is because I have a 26 00:01:28,625 --> 00:01:30,865 Speaker 1: digital it depends on the safe day. 27 00:01:30,985 --> 00:01:32,825 Speaker 2: Yeah. But when that didn't happen, I just had a 28 00:01:32,825 --> 00:01:34,105 Speaker 2: little thing on the back of my phone that I'd 29 00:01:34,145 --> 00:01:37,385 Speaker 2: slip it into. Yeah, like I could romanticize having a wallet, 30 00:01:37,705 --> 00:01:40,905 Speaker 2: like opening it up and shaking the goods. 31 00:01:41,185 --> 00:01:43,305 Speaker 1: I went from what was a standard sized wallet to 32 00:01:43,345 --> 00:01:45,585 Speaker 1: a small wallet. But I still have all my cards, 33 00:01:45,585 --> 00:01:49,145 Speaker 1: my medicare, my fly byes. Is that all on your phone? 34 00:01:49,425 --> 00:01:50,105 Speaker 1: Your fly eyes? 35 00:01:50,265 --> 00:01:51,905 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah I did. I just recently got that. 36 00:01:51,985 --> 00:01:54,785 Speaker 1: Actually, what if someone steals your phone and then you 37 00:01:54,785 --> 00:01:57,465 Speaker 1: don't have your What if someone steals your wallet. I've 38 00:01:57,465 --> 00:01:58,145 Speaker 1: still got my phone. 39 00:01:58,225 --> 00:01:59,505 Speaker 2: Yeah, but what if they still both? 40 00:01:59,625 --> 00:02:00,345 Speaker 1: Well that's happened. 41 00:02:00,465 --> 00:02:01,625 Speaker 2: See, never happened to me. 42 00:02:01,985 --> 00:02:04,505 Speaker 1: Okay, Well this leads us to the second question, because 43 00:02:04,505 --> 00:02:07,265 Speaker 1: this is what happened to me. Handbags. Okay, I don't 44 00:02:07,305 --> 00:02:09,585 Speaker 1: see your generation of you guys like having a variety 45 00:02:09,585 --> 00:02:12,665 Speaker 1: of handbags or really even carrying a bag. So yeah, 46 00:02:12,705 --> 00:02:14,065 Speaker 1: what's going on with handbag? Look? 47 00:02:14,105 --> 00:02:16,945 Speaker 2: I actually have quite an interesting perspective on this, right 48 00:02:17,425 --> 00:02:21,065 Speaker 2: A handbag to me is an accessory, right, but you 49 00:02:21,185 --> 00:02:24,865 Speaker 2: don't necessarily actually need it for your outfit. Maybe when 50 00:02:24,905 --> 00:02:27,425 Speaker 2: you go into certain life stages as being like a parent, 51 00:02:27,545 --> 00:02:29,905 Speaker 2: you need to carry things for your kids, but we 52 00:02:30,665 --> 00:02:31,905 Speaker 2: I don't need a handbag. 53 00:02:31,985 --> 00:02:34,425 Speaker 1: Okay, take away going to work because do you leave 54 00:02:34,425 --> 00:02:37,105 Speaker 1: your laptop here or get But you so that brunch 55 00:02:37,185 --> 00:02:40,065 Speaker 1: with the girlfriends, Yeah you're taking a handbag? Probably not 56 00:02:40,305 --> 00:02:41,465 Speaker 1: where's your lip? Bum? 57 00:02:42,105 --> 00:02:42,705 Speaker 2: Like in my pocket? 58 00:02:42,745 --> 00:02:46,065 Speaker 1: Where's your hampon? Sorry? But like, I just find this 59 00:02:46,185 --> 00:02:52,145 Speaker 1: so fascinating. You have so few essentials that you feel 60 00:02:52,185 --> 00:02:52,785 Speaker 1: no bound to. 61 00:02:52,865 --> 00:02:55,625 Speaker 2: Okay, so there is one handbag that I have. It's 62 00:02:55,665 --> 00:02:58,185 Speaker 2: like this black little Origin bag that my best friend 63 00:02:58,185 --> 00:03:00,545 Speaker 2: got me, and I would probably take that. 64 00:03:00,705 --> 00:03:03,145 Speaker 1: And is that versy centtile enough to take you most places? Yes? 65 00:03:03,185 --> 00:03:06,265 Speaker 2: It is absolutely the only thing that I have is 66 00:03:06,305 --> 00:03:09,865 Speaker 2: with handbags. Every handbag that I love and really really 67 00:03:09,985 --> 00:03:12,065 Speaker 2: like admire, like a Fendy bagette, Like I can look 68 00:03:12,105 --> 00:03:13,985 Speaker 2: at it and be like, oh my god, I love that. 69 00:03:14,385 --> 00:03:16,865 Speaker 2: It's just like out of my tax bracket. Yeah, okay, 70 00:03:16,905 --> 00:03:20,065 Speaker 2: I love that, but I have no purpose for it 71 00:03:20,345 --> 00:03:24,185 Speaker 2: and I can't afford it, and I just go without yeah, 72 00:03:24,265 --> 00:03:27,065 Speaker 2: I don't know if that makes sense. Tishoes not what? 73 00:03:27,385 --> 00:03:28,145 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 74 00:03:28,305 --> 00:03:30,185 Speaker 2: For a long time, I just put things in my bra. 75 00:03:30,545 --> 00:03:32,745 Speaker 1: Yeah I do that sometimes. Yeah, yeah, I do that. 76 00:03:32,825 --> 00:03:35,185 Speaker 2: And you know, you forget handbags like you put them 77 00:03:35,225 --> 00:03:36,625 Speaker 2: in your uber or you pass them off to your 78 00:03:36,665 --> 00:03:38,825 Speaker 2: friends when you don't want to carry it. Every night 79 00:03:38,825 --> 00:03:41,185 Speaker 2: out that I have, my handbag ends up on some 80 00:03:41,265 --> 00:03:44,225 Speaker 2: dude's shoulder because I can't be bothered to have it. 81 00:03:44,345 --> 00:03:46,025 Speaker 1: I wish I could be as free. Do you have 82 00:03:46,065 --> 00:03:47,225 Speaker 1: a phone strap? 83 00:03:47,545 --> 00:03:47,745 Speaker 2: No? 84 00:03:47,865 --> 00:03:48,545 Speaker 1: You just carry it? 85 00:03:48,625 --> 00:03:48,825 Speaker 2: Yeah? 86 00:03:48,905 --> 00:03:49,425 Speaker 1: Oh my god? 87 00:03:49,465 --> 00:03:51,385 Speaker 2: Hey wait, keys in the bra? 88 00:03:51,625 --> 00:03:55,785 Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, heels I feel like, you know, thankfully, due 89 00:03:55,785 --> 00:03:58,065 Speaker 1: to lockdown, that was what five years ago. Now, we 90 00:03:58,185 --> 00:04:01,265 Speaker 1: haven't really seen the resurgence of huge high stilettos, and 91 00:04:01,345 --> 00:04:04,505 Speaker 1: as such, flat shoes have got cooler than ever before. Yeah, 92 00:04:04,505 --> 00:04:06,585 Speaker 1: but how do you feel about high heels in general? 93 00:04:07,065 --> 00:04:10,625 Speaker 2: I probably quite like the handbag thing, right, They're beautiful, 94 00:04:10,785 --> 00:04:12,585 Speaker 2: Like I love when you put a heel on and 95 00:04:12,625 --> 00:04:16,065 Speaker 2: then suddenly I'm like strutting down the street like I'm 96 00:04:16,105 --> 00:04:20,545 Speaker 2: a ceo of like some kind of company. But I 97 00:04:20,585 --> 00:04:24,225 Speaker 2: am a pure creature of comfort. I want to look 98 00:04:24,265 --> 00:04:26,745 Speaker 2: put together. But I don't want to feel like I'm 99 00:04:26,865 --> 00:04:29,785 Speaker 2: like uncomfortable. Yeah, and he'lls do that, which is why 100 00:04:29,825 --> 00:04:30,985 Speaker 2: I resort to the kitten heels. 101 00:04:31,025 --> 00:04:31,705 Speaker 1: Yeah, like if. 102 00:04:31,585 --> 00:04:32,265 Speaker 2: It's too high. 103 00:04:32,305 --> 00:04:34,305 Speaker 1: See, that's the wisdom I gained in my forties and 104 00:04:34,345 --> 00:04:36,345 Speaker 1: you have that at twenty five. And I do think 105 00:04:36,385 --> 00:04:39,185 Speaker 1: that thankfully. You know, for the most part, trends have 106 00:04:39,225 --> 00:04:41,105 Speaker 1: gone that way. Yeah, but I just have so many 107 00:04:41,145 --> 00:04:43,065 Speaker 1: beautiful pairces of stilettos. I'll never get rid of it 108 00:04:43,105 --> 00:04:43,985 Speaker 1: and I'll never wear. 109 00:04:43,865 --> 00:04:45,905 Speaker 2: I remember you, like over a year ago about how 110 00:04:45,945 --> 00:04:48,225 Speaker 2: in Cosmo it was like you'd wear heels every It. 111 00:04:48,265 --> 00:04:50,025 Speaker 1: Was an unspoken rule that you had to wear six 112 00:04:50,065 --> 00:04:52,705 Speaker 1: yen cheels. Well, like if you were wearing flats, you weren't. 113 00:04:52,705 --> 00:04:53,865 Speaker 2: Well, I could not imagine that. 114 00:04:53,905 --> 00:04:55,465 Speaker 1: Here. Do you own any high heel? Yeah? 115 00:04:55,465 --> 00:04:57,505 Speaker 2: I do? I have one pair? 116 00:04:57,625 --> 00:05:00,465 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, this is amazing. I love your generation. What 117 00:05:00,945 --> 00:05:04,465 Speaker 1: have you personally and your generation got against no show 118 00:05:04,585 --> 00:05:05,345 Speaker 1: anchor socks? 119 00:05:05,545 --> 00:05:08,265 Speaker 2: What have you got against showing your socks? 120 00:05:08,825 --> 00:05:13,505 Speaker 1: I don't your generation started it. If I am going 121 00:05:13,665 --> 00:05:16,065 Speaker 1: to the gym, it just looks nicer to have the 122 00:05:16,185 --> 00:05:18,065 Speaker 1: trainer and a bit of flesh and than your legging 123 00:05:18,225 --> 00:05:20,105 Speaker 1: socks will cutting off ee and weird. 124 00:05:20,385 --> 00:05:24,105 Speaker 2: I reckon that comes back to the mad days of rules, right, 125 00:05:24,225 --> 00:05:27,065 Speaker 2: we don't have that. I love socks, I know, and 126 00:05:27,105 --> 00:05:29,465 Speaker 2: I love colored socks. I think we went through that 127 00:05:29,585 --> 00:05:32,225 Speaker 2: last time because they can be an added element to 128 00:05:32,265 --> 00:05:35,145 Speaker 2: your outfit. They're more fun to have. I'll put my 129 00:05:35,225 --> 00:05:38,225 Speaker 2: outfit down every night, and then they'll go through my socks. 130 00:05:38,225 --> 00:05:39,705 Speaker 2: I'm okay, which one goes with it? 131 00:05:39,785 --> 00:05:41,945 Speaker 1: I approve of your love of socks, but why do 132 00:05:41,985 --> 00:05:43,385 Speaker 1: you hate our no show socks? 133 00:05:43,505 --> 00:05:45,585 Speaker 2: They feel like sneaky. 134 00:05:45,265 --> 00:05:47,185 Speaker 1: Because they're just so functional and not fun. 135 00:05:47,225 --> 00:05:49,385 Speaker 2: Well, they don't even feel functional, like they slide down 136 00:05:49,425 --> 00:05:49,865 Speaker 2: your foot. 137 00:05:49,945 --> 00:05:52,545 Speaker 1: The uniclow ones don't. But I get what you mean. 138 00:05:52,585 --> 00:05:53,505 Speaker 1: There's no joy to them. 139 00:05:53,625 --> 00:05:57,145 Speaker 2: No, there's not. And it's also a bit like, yeah, 140 00:05:57,265 --> 00:05:57,585 Speaker 2: I don't. 141 00:05:57,785 --> 00:05:59,225 Speaker 1: That made me think of another thing I haven't had 142 00:05:59,265 --> 00:06:01,545 Speaker 1: any the script about shapewear. Does your generation do. 143 00:06:01,585 --> 00:06:02,825 Speaker 2: Shit wear skims? 144 00:06:04,745 --> 00:06:07,265 Speaker 1: Because a no show sock is like shape re like 145 00:06:07,305 --> 00:06:08,545 Speaker 1: it's purely functional. 146 00:06:08,905 --> 00:06:11,825 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is sort of. I guess it comes 147 00:06:11,865 --> 00:06:14,305 Speaker 2: down to taste, right, where a shape where has like 148 00:06:14,305 --> 00:06:14,825 Speaker 2: a purpose? 149 00:06:14,905 --> 00:06:15,665 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you mean. 150 00:06:15,705 --> 00:06:17,665 Speaker 2: So it's easier to get on board with that. Whereas 151 00:06:17,665 --> 00:06:20,265 Speaker 2: you're wearing a no show sock because you feel like 152 00:06:20,345 --> 00:06:21,665 Speaker 2: it looks better, I don't know. 153 00:06:21,745 --> 00:06:23,945 Speaker 1: It is just a so your feet don't get sweaty 154 00:06:23,945 --> 00:06:35,545 Speaker 1: and you don't get blistered. Would you rather be overdressed 155 00:06:35,585 --> 00:06:36,345 Speaker 1: or underdressed? 156 00:06:36,585 --> 00:06:38,585 Speaker 2: So I think that comes back to what I said before. 157 00:06:38,785 --> 00:06:41,025 Speaker 2: I want to look like I'm overdressed, but I want 158 00:06:41,025 --> 00:06:45,465 Speaker 2: to feel like I'm underdressed, like I really value being comfortable. Yes, 159 00:06:45,665 --> 00:06:47,825 Speaker 2: So that's where I draw the line. But that's also 160 00:06:47,825 --> 00:06:50,225 Speaker 2: where I find statement piece is really helpful because like 161 00:06:50,265 --> 00:06:52,225 Speaker 2: you know this jacket, right, I'm actually just wearing a 162 00:06:52,265 --> 00:06:55,185 Speaker 2: full black outfit today. Yeah, shirt and jeans. 163 00:06:55,345 --> 00:06:57,865 Speaker 1: That makes a statement. It happens you brought in Tokyo. 164 00:06:58,105 --> 00:06:59,025 Speaker 1: It says something. 165 00:06:59,065 --> 00:07:02,265 Speaker 2: But your comfort, yes exactly, that is my perfect So. 166 00:07:02,225 --> 00:07:05,425 Speaker 1: You want to be comfortable, but show that you put 167 00:07:05,465 --> 00:07:07,705 Speaker 1: in effort. And so it's that fine line. 168 00:07:07,745 --> 00:07:11,265 Speaker 2: It's finding the fine line. I will be uncomfortable if 169 00:07:11,385 --> 00:07:15,985 Speaker 2: an event is minus three hours. Yes, that's how long 170 00:07:16,025 --> 00:07:16,905 Speaker 2: I can handle it for. 171 00:07:17,025 --> 00:07:19,385 Speaker 1: We work in a creative office. Anything you wouldn't wear 172 00:07:19,465 --> 00:07:21,105 Speaker 1: to work I used to. I mean, I guess I've 173 00:07:21,145 --> 00:07:22,505 Speaker 1: loosened it. A bit, but there was no way I 174 00:07:22,505 --> 00:07:24,425 Speaker 1: would ever do a shoe string strap or I wouldn't 175 00:07:24,465 --> 00:07:27,985 Speaker 1: do like a short skirt with something that wasn't long 176 00:07:28,025 --> 00:07:29,945 Speaker 1: sleeve like I don't know, but that's a bit of 177 00:07:29,945 --> 00:07:33,025 Speaker 1: a hangover from being in my forties. But here and 178 00:07:33,265 --> 00:07:35,345 Speaker 1: rightfully so, like it is a creative office, but I 179 00:07:35,345 --> 00:07:37,065 Speaker 1: do see people in bike shorts. 180 00:07:37,105 --> 00:07:40,105 Speaker 2: I wouldn't do active wear personally. I have these little 181 00:07:40,145 --> 00:07:43,785 Speaker 2: like sweat set matching from Aram into James, so it's 182 00:07:43,825 --> 00:07:46,545 Speaker 2: like kind of like a bit more elevated and like 183 00:07:46,705 --> 00:07:49,385 Speaker 2: fun and it's colorful. I also wouldn't go too short, 184 00:07:49,425 --> 00:07:51,345 Speaker 2: like I wouldn't do a short short skirt or a 185 00:07:51,425 --> 00:07:53,905 Speaker 2: short dress. Not because I don't want to make anyone 186 00:07:53,905 --> 00:07:56,145 Speaker 2: else feel uncomfortable, you know, but I'm just like I 187 00:07:56,145 --> 00:07:58,185 Speaker 2: can't move around in that, I can't do my thing 188 00:07:58,185 --> 00:08:00,385 Speaker 2: in that I'm always going to be a bit self conscious. 189 00:08:00,545 --> 00:08:04,905 Speaker 2: But other than that, I don't think I there's no rules. 190 00:08:05,025 --> 00:08:07,225 Speaker 1: When you're shop. Do you mostly look for things that 191 00:08:07,265 --> 00:08:09,065 Speaker 1: you can wear to work and outside work? 192 00:08:09,145 --> 00:08:10,465 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, absolutely. 193 00:08:10,625 --> 00:08:12,865 Speaker 1: Last question before bougie and budget. This is so fascinating 194 00:08:12,865 --> 00:08:16,825 Speaker 1: to me. Where immediately comes to mind when I say 195 00:08:16,825 --> 00:08:18,865 Speaker 1: where do you go shopping? Is it online and is 196 00:08:18,905 --> 00:08:21,985 Speaker 1: it in real life? And what stores and what brands online? 197 00:08:22,065 --> 00:08:24,585 Speaker 1: One hundred percent only online unless. 198 00:08:24,265 --> 00:08:26,825 Speaker 2: It's basics and unless I'm going to somewhere like KMA 199 00:08:26,905 --> 00:08:30,545 Speaker 2: or Uniclo. Wow. Yeah, I rarely am in the store. Okay, 200 00:08:30,585 --> 00:08:32,625 Speaker 2: getting in the store actually stresses me out, like I 201 00:08:32,665 --> 00:08:33,385 Speaker 2: start sweating. 202 00:08:33,425 --> 00:08:35,465 Speaker 1: Wow. Wait, if you ever have children, you to try 203 00:08:35,505 --> 00:08:38,185 Speaker 1: and go with the toddler. And where do you go online? 204 00:08:38,265 --> 00:08:39,945 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's a huge array, but where's 205 00:08:39,985 --> 00:08:41,305 Speaker 1: you kind of tried and tested. 206 00:08:41,425 --> 00:08:43,825 Speaker 2: I really like the iconic. I love spaces that you 207 00:08:43,865 --> 00:08:46,905 Speaker 2: can just find something like they have a lot of 208 00:08:46,945 --> 00:08:48,385 Speaker 2: stuff that you can just troll. 209 00:08:48,305 --> 00:08:50,105 Speaker 1: Through the website version of a department store. 210 00:08:50,185 --> 00:08:53,145 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and then I do like deepop because you can 211 00:08:53,185 --> 00:08:55,665 Speaker 2: send offers. The other day I got a pair of 212 00:08:55,705 --> 00:08:59,345 Speaker 2: like Elias may heels like Kitten Hills for fifteen dollars. 213 00:08:59,865 --> 00:09:01,785 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was, okay, this is crease and you 214 00:09:01,785 --> 00:09:05,145 Speaker 1: mentioned asous, which yes, a sauce as well chips from Singapore. 215 00:09:05,185 --> 00:09:07,225 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a bit of everywhere. 216 00:09:07,385 --> 00:09:08,105 Speaker 2: Takes about a week. 217 00:09:08,225 --> 00:09:10,025 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the good thing is they're on opposite season, 218 00:09:10,065 --> 00:09:11,865 Speaker 1: so they're having like a big winter sale right now, 219 00:09:11,905 --> 00:09:13,625 Speaker 1: and we're going into winter. Ohli, if I could talk 220 00:09:13,665 --> 00:09:31,585 Speaker 1: to you forever. It's very expensive, how wud Let's do 221 00:09:31,745 --> 00:09:34,785 Speaker 1: bougie and budget. Yeah, let's start with our budget. 222 00:09:35,105 --> 00:09:37,945 Speaker 2: So my budget, speaking of uni clothe and speaking of basics, 223 00:09:38,265 --> 00:09:41,905 Speaker 2: is I think I found the best long sleeve basic 224 00:09:42,065 --> 00:09:47,785 Speaker 2: white tea. Okay, it's called the uniclo air Ism. Yeah tea. 225 00:09:47,905 --> 00:09:50,305 Speaker 1: They're fabric that like it feels nice and soft and cottony, 226 00:09:50,345 --> 00:09:52,305 Speaker 1: but if you're sweaty, it's good. 227 00:09:52,345 --> 00:09:54,745 Speaker 2: And it has the perfect fit where I like when 228 00:09:54,825 --> 00:09:58,225 Speaker 2: shirts don't cling to your hips and they flare out, 229 00:09:58,345 --> 00:10:00,225 Speaker 2: not like flare out, but they're loose at the bottom. 230 00:10:00,265 --> 00:10:03,305 Speaker 2: They look a bit boxy. Yes, has that perfect boxy fit. 231 00:10:03,345 --> 00:10:05,185 Speaker 2: And it comes in like cute little colors. It's like 232 00:10:05,225 --> 00:10:07,065 Speaker 2: you've got the classic black and white, but then you've 233 00:10:07,065 --> 00:10:09,385 Speaker 2: got baby pink, yellow, all that kind of stuff come 234 00:10:09,505 --> 00:10:10,985 Speaker 2: up really nice. Thirty bucks. 235 00:10:11,025 --> 00:10:15,065 Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Oh no, my budget's expensive compared to that. 236 00:10:15,145 --> 00:10:17,745 Speaker 1: But he stupa than my bougie. I wonder how you're 237 00:10:17,745 --> 00:10:19,905 Speaker 1: gonna feel about this. They're from chic It's called the 238 00:10:19,985 --> 00:10:24,425 Speaker 1: Nara pant. I would almost say it is leggings as pants. 239 00:10:25,025 --> 00:10:27,265 Speaker 1: So it's a black, high waisted legging. 240 00:10:27,585 --> 00:10:30,305 Speaker 2: God, I know this seems like skinny jeans coming back. 241 00:10:30,465 --> 00:10:34,025 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, little tiny slip at the ankle. 242 00:10:34,345 --> 00:10:36,065 Speaker 2: Well, it's quite like equestrian. 243 00:10:36,465 --> 00:10:38,705 Speaker 1: Yes, it's a bit of questrian. It's almost like a 244 00:10:38,705 --> 00:10:41,505 Speaker 1: cigarette pant. It's like a tight legging, but dressy. I 245 00:10:41,545 --> 00:10:43,785 Speaker 1: would wear that with a very high heel and an 246 00:10:43,825 --> 00:10:44,745 Speaker 1: oversized bomber. 247 00:10:44,905 --> 00:10:47,985 Speaker 2: That's cool. Cool. Yeah, did you wear pants with shoes 248 00:10:48,025 --> 00:10:48,665 Speaker 2: attached once? 249 00:10:48,785 --> 00:10:51,065 Speaker 1: I did? Yes, it's kind That's why I was in 250 00:10:51,065 --> 00:10:52,705 Speaker 1: Paris pretending to not be real me. 251 00:10:52,905 --> 00:10:53,905 Speaker 2: Yeah, but which is cool. 252 00:10:54,065 --> 00:10:56,305 Speaker 1: But your generation don't dep pants like this in general, 253 00:10:56,385 --> 00:10:58,305 Speaker 1: like a tight black pant that could be a legging. 254 00:10:58,345 --> 00:11:01,505 Speaker 2: People are trying to bring the skinny jean back. That 255 00:11:01,785 --> 00:11:05,745 Speaker 2: is it's whispering, it's happening. I'm not necessarily in there. 256 00:11:05,905 --> 00:11:06,825 Speaker 1: Are you in a barrel jean? 257 00:11:07,465 --> 00:11:10,345 Speaker 2: No, not into that classically straight leg. 258 00:11:10,745 --> 00:11:11,625 Speaker 1: I don't mind straight leg. 259 00:11:11,785 --> 00:11:15,705 Speaker 2: That's all I want. Watsibugie my bougie, which is bougie 260 00:11:15,745 --> 00:11:18,225 Speaker 2: because of how I got it, but actually quite a 261 00:11:18,225 --> 00:11:18,945 Speaker 2: budget price. 262 00:11:19,185 --> 00:11:20,145 Speaker 1: That's so good at this game. 263 00:11:20,345 --> 00:11:24,025 Speaker 2: I got it in Tokyo, Okay, I went and got 264 00:11:24,145 --> 00:11:28,345 Speaker 2: the on a Suker Tiger. Yes, Mexico sixty six is great, 265 00:11:28,745 --> 00:11:31,545 Speaker 2: and I went to there. They have this special store 266 00:11:31,865 --> 00:11:35,065 Speaker 2: in Ginza, and you can go and get the shoes 267 00:11:35,105 --> 00:11:39,185 Speaker 2: embroidered with like little characters so you can do your initials, 268 00:11:39,185 --> 00:11:43,065 Speaker 2: you can do like your personalization, personalization. I love it. 269 00:11:43,265 --> 00:11:44,625 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so good. 270 00:11:44,705 --> 00:11:46,985 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I got this black and red pair and 271 00:11:47,025 --> 00:11:49,305 Speaker 2: then I embroidered it with my age so I can 272 00:11:49,385 --> 00:11:51,905 Speaker 2: just remember what I was and all that kind of stuff. 273 00:11:51,705 --> 00:11:54,745 Speaker 1: If on a Suker Tigers, mine aren't inscribed or whatever. 274 00:11:54,945 --> 00:11:55,825 Speaker 2: But but they're cool. 275 00:11:56,345 --> 00:11:58,145 Speaker 1: Okay, so they're still cool because you're few years old. 276 00:11:58,225 --> 00:12:00,705 Speaker 2: Absolutely, they're still cool that one hundred percent. Maybe one 277 00:12:00,705 --> 00:12:02,505 Speaker 2: of the coolest. And there are only one hundred and 278 00:12:02,505 --> 00:12:05,425 Speaker 2: forty eight dollars because they're made in Japan. Yeah, but 279 00:12:05,425 --> 00:12:06,825 Speaker 2: there are about two hundred bucks here. 280 00:12:06,905 --> 00:12:08,905 Speaker 1: But they're a great shoe for someone like me who's 281 00:12:08,945 --> 00:12:11,065 Speaker 1: not a huge wear it and I can't do the 282 00:12:11,065 --> 00:12:15,465 Speaker 1: big chunkies Solomon hiking. Look, they're nice in the streamline, 283 00:12:15,465 --> 00:12:19,065 Speaker 1: they pack well for travel, absolutely lovely. We both agree 284 00:12:19,065 --> 00:12:19,425 Speaker 1: with that. 285 00:12:19,505 --> 00:12:21,745 Speaker 2: They're so light. Yeah, they're really good. 286 00:12:21,905 --> 00:12:25,745 Speaker 1: My bougie is something I will never own, but the 287 00:12:26,065 --> 00:12:31,465 Speaker 1: cookies follow me everywhere. It is the most beautiful swaye jacket. 288 00:12:31,945 --> 00:12:35,625 Speaker 1: We're both into Swede. Before you get too excited, it 289 00:12:35,745 --> 00:12:40,305 Speaker 1: is one thousand, four hundred and seventy dollars. It's by 290 00:12:40,385 --> 00:12:43,985 Speaker 1: a brand called Noir Hamoi. Oh. It's nice and it's 291 00:12:44,025 --> 00:12:47,065 Speaker 1: like a it's like a cropped brown swage trend. 292 00:12:47,305 --> 00:12:49,745 Speaker 2: Look great with your pants, I know, but I can't 293 00:12:49,745 --> 00:12:50,265 Speaker 2: afford it. 294 00:12:50,705 --> 00:12:52,785 Speaker 1: I would size up. I think it's a French brand. 295 00:12:53,105 --> 00:12:54,625 Speaker 1: It's not fitted fitted. 296 00:12:54,425 --> 00:12:56,745 Speaker 2: No, no, no no, but it folds like it's got 297 00:12:56,785 --> 00:12:57,905 Speaker 2: the nice folding of the. 298 00:12:58,025 --> 00:13:01,145 Speaker 1: It's got okay, I can teach you. 299 00:13:01,225 --> 00:13:01,785 Speaker 2: There we go. 300 00:13:01,905 --> 00:13:03,865 Speaker 1: But it's quite cropped. It kind of sits just above 301 00:13:03,865 --> 00:13:05,505 Speaker 1: a hip bone. If I was to ever win a 302 00:13:05,505 --> 00:13:07,305 Speaker 1: lot of I would size up and get this. It's 303 00:13:07,625 --> 00:13:10,625 Speaker 1: just a dream, but I do. You and I twenty 304 00:13:10,705 --> 00:13:14,185 Speaker 1: years apart, both loving sways. Yeah, we're both bombers. Vintage 305 00:13:14,265 --> 00:13:15,665 Speaker 1: leather bombers are very good. 306 00:13:15,705 --> 00:13:18,105 Speaker 2: There's a viral bomber that's going off from Zara at 307 00:13:18,105 --> 00:13:20,825 Speaker 2: the moment on TikTok. It's still five hundred dollars. 308 00:13:21,025 --> 00:13:23,825 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they do the premium collection I can't do. 309 00:13:23,985 --> 00:13:25,985 Speaker 1: I've been searching deepop. There's some good ones on them. 310 00:13:26,145 --> 00:13:27,105 Speaker 2: Bombers are great. 311 00:13:27,465 --> 00:13:31,745 Speaker 1: Live James, thank you for representing your wonderful generation who 312 00:13:32,225 --> 00:13:34,825 Speaker 1: can run because we walked, And I love that we're 313 00:13:34,865 --> 00:13:37,265 Speaker 1: trying to put to rest the generational war fashion because 314 00:13:37,345 --> 00:13:40,145 Speaker 1: yeah fun, Yes, it's close off fun and we can 315 00:13:40,185 --> 00:13:40,785 Speaker 1: live for each other. 316 00:13:40,865 --> 00:13:42,265 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Thank you so much for. 317 00:13:42,185 --> 00:13:45,185 Speaker 1: Having me, thank you for joining me, thank you for 318 00:13:45,265 --> 00:13:47,585 Speaker 1: listening to Nothing to Wear, and don't forget to sign 319 00:13:47,665 --> 00:13:49,545 Speaker 1: up to the matching newsletter. 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