WEBVTT - Introducing BIZ: The 5-Second Trick That Kills Procrastination 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.360 Hello, lovely neighborhood. It's Sarah here. 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:05.080 I hope you're having an amazing week. I'm popping into 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.960 your feed with something a little different for this episode, 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:10.920 but equally packed with value. You might have heard me 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:14.440 over on the biz podcast recently, and I'm so excited 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:17.520 to drop a special episode of Biz Inbox into your 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:19.919 ears because I thought some of you might also benefit 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.800 from the conversations we've been having over there. I've joined 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.200 forces with the incredible m Vernum to help solve your 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:29.440 trickiest workplace dilemmas, and I'm pretty sure I've actually shared 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.840 some stuff I've never shared before. In this episode, we're 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.400 diving into something I know many of you struggle with 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.920 and I definitely struggle with most days of the week, 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:42.040 and that is procrastination. We test out some game changing strategies, 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:46.000 including the eat the Frog method that might actually revolutionize 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.800 your productivity. We also chat about those tricky social media 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.559 boundaries at work and share some tips on how to 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.160 stand out when you're the newbie in the office. If 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.840 you've got workplace dilemmas keeping you up at night, Biz 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.520 Inbox is here to help with practical, real world solutions 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.360 and a whole lot of yupping in between, and don't worry, 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.399 your regular CZA content will be back in your ears 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.640 next week. I just thought i'd give you this a 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.240 little preview, and we'd love to hear what you guys think. 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:18.160 Now let's jump into this special biz Inbox episode. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:25.160 Hello and welcome to biz Inbox. I'm m Vernon, bringing 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.720 you your weekly dos of unfiltered workplace wisdom. Well, I'm 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:29.199 gonna try. 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.240 I'm Sarah Davidson, also trying to help them dig into 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.120 some workplace truth today. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.039 And if you are new here, welcome, because biz Inbox 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:43.160 is where your professional dilemmas get sold no names attached. 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:47.000 So whether you're navigating office dynamics, launching a side hustle, 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.880 or dealing with the manager from Hell, we've got you 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:53.520 covered and your identity stays completely under wraps if you 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:54.360 choose to do so. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.680 Today we are diving into whether loud working is worth 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:02.600 the hype and the awkward moment when your entire workplace 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:04.320 discovers your Instagram handle. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:09.000 Oh my goodness, embarrassing. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:10.359 No, we'll help you out. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:11.799 We'll help you out. 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.880 First, I want to dive into a question that I 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:22.720 feel like I could have submitted myself. It's from Lulu, 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:26.760 and she says I am the Queen of procrastination, which 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.840 I'm going to say, no, Lulu, i am. Instead of 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.440 finishing tomorrow's urgent report, I just did a full house, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:38.200 deep clean, scrolled TikTok for hours, and created a beautifully formatted, 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.399 color coded to do list, which I then ignored. I'll 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.600 literally do anything to avoid the actual work. Do you 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:48.920 have any tips at all? I need serious help, Sarah. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.080 I'm sad to say that I also need serious. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:53.480 Oh my gosh, well that makes three of us. 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:55.400 And the hilarious part of this is when I was 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.160 reading this question to think about, you know, I have 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.800 a little think in advance about what I would suggest. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:02.840 I found it a hard one, and because it was 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.720 a hard question, I ignored it. Did a full house, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.680 deep clean, scroll TikTok for hours, I made a beautifully formated, 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.079 color coded to do list so I wouldn't have to 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:13.959 answer the question because it's a hard one. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.919 But it's such a funny question because I feel like 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:18.840 we all do it. But Sarah, okay, out of all 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:20.639 of us here, I mean, I'm not sure what Lulu does. 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.720 I'm sure she's amazing. But you are the one who 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:27.320 has very successful businesses, so you're clearly doing something right 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.240 that I'm sure doesn't involve procrastinating. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.000 Well, I mean, we all have our moments. One of 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:36.480 the things that really helps me is, firstly I try 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.520 and identify the reason, because sometimes your reaction is different 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.040 or the action should I say that you can take 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.120 is different depending on what it is. So for example, 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:49.680 if you're procrastinating because you're exhausted, I think sometimes the 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.720 temptation is just to push on keep going, especially if 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.880 you've been sitting there doing something for a couple of hours. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.560 You're like, no, I just need to finish, And sometimes 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.800 it's counterintuitive, but maybe stop, Like sometimes it isn't pushed through. 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.880 Sometimes if it's tiredness, you're actually not going to get 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.800 any clearer or any more energized by just sitting there 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:08.360 staring at the same thing over and over again. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:09.480 So one thing. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.480 That's really helped me is if that's the reason, if 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.160 it's tiredness or brain fog, I actually stop for a minute, 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.320 get up, maybe go for a walk, get a cup 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:20.800 of tea, come back and try again later. But sometimes 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:22.640 it might be that you need to break the circuit 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.280 just because you're emotionally flat. So sometimes I'll get up 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.560 and like you might need to go and do a workout. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:31.080 Like sometimes the procrastination and leaving the task and coming 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.400 back is a good thing if it's not one of 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.840 those things, if it's not something that needs a bit 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.720 of action before you can keep going. The best thing 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.240 that I ever do is to break the big, scary, 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:46.520 overwhelming task into mini tasks and then give myself little 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:47.960 awards after each one. 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:49.680 Ooh, what's a reward? 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.000 Like if you do want to have a little scroll, 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.600 I'm like, well, I can't have a ten minute scroll 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.920 until I've done a thirty minute block of this hard task. 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.280 Or you know, I want my second coffee for the 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:05.040 day the afternoon slump, but actually I haven't earned that 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.240 yet because I haven't done thirty minutes of my work. 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.920 So I kind of build in little traits of things 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.240 that I would want. And I know it's probably not 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:17.200 like the best advice to use food as an incentivization. 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:17.760 But sometimes it's a snack. 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.919 It's like I can't go and get a snack, or 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.440 I can't go on my coffee break until I've done 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.840 this mini task and I actually think breaking it into 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.640 smaller tasks, you don't even need to think about tasks 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.600 two to ten. All you need to think about is 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.880 number one. And suddenly your brain it frees up so 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.039 much space for you to just begin because you're not 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.720 trying to begin the entire thing. You're just beginning this 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.159 small thing. It's less overwhelming. The fear that you get 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.080 from the size of the task is often what creates procrastinations. 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.680 So yeah, I feel like dividing it into a list 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:52.280 makes things more manageable. And then the other thing that 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.000 I do is I actually just create obstacles for myself. 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.800 Like I know that my biggest destruction is social media. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.640 For other people, it might be other things, it might 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.200 be TV, it might be whatever it is, but I 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.159 know that. You know, my problem is I want to scroll, 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:08.839 and then I say I'm going to scroll for five minutes, 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:10.160 and I get on a tangent and then like eight 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:11.480 hours later, I'm still sitting there. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.960 You're just in the dark with your light on your face. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.760 Yeah. Literally, I'm that mean. And so I make it 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.120 hard for myself. I put my phone like physically elsewhere, 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.960 so there's an obstacle. I'll turn it off, and like 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.320 it takes a little while for your phone to boot up, 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.240 and then when you pick up a phone that's off, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.280 you can't say all your notifications or you turn your 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.920 notifications off. Like building in obstacles to the things that 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:40.200 allow you to procrastinate further. It's like hacking your own temptation. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:45.040 You just remove the temptation. And it sounds really basic, 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.680 but sometimes I think humans are pretty basic. If there's 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:50.720 a distraction, remove it and then it's less distracting. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.480 So true, especially with this phone scrolling thing, because I 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.640 do turn my phone off a lot of the time, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.040 and I think when you do that, you also become 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.160 so hyperaware of exactly how much you pick up your 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.880 phone without even realizing you're doing it, like subconsciously, and 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.279 it's quite confronting. I pick up my phone so many 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.480 times without realizing I'm doing it. I have two tips 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.920 as well, because I am such a big procrastinator that 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.679 these two things basically saved so much of my time 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.320 just from actually doing my work and not procrastinating. I'm 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.440 sure my mum managers are gonna love hearing this episode 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.559 from me. But basically what I do is I first 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.920 I figured out my energy levels throughout the day because 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.640 everyone has different jumps and energy and you just have 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.920 to be just aware of your energy, figure out like 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:39.640 where you feel most productive. And I realize I'm not 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.000 a morning person, but I've had to become a morning 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.600 person because that's where all my energy goes. It's like 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.120 in the morning, if I do things, it has to 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.800 be done before eleven AM, because then I go into 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.640 a bit of a slump between like eleven and three, 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.000 and then I get another burst of energy after three pm. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.480 And I know we're recording this at three pm. So 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.040 that's why I look a bit dull, well so proud. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.320 And the funny thing is is that I'm so lucky 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.760 to be a creative here because it was actually my 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.200 producers who noticed my energy levels. And I realized that 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.920 a lot of my recordings end up being in the 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:14.240 mornings because I like, you sound like shit after three pm, 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:14.720 Like you. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.960 Just some constructive criticism here, literally. 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.040 Just like after you've had lunch, like you can't get 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.320 anything good out of you. And I'm like, okay, that 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:27.400 makes sense. And because I am a big procrastinator as well, 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.880 So once I figured out my energy levels, I realized 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.040 that The method of choice for me to get work 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.600 done was eating the frog. I have to do the 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.600 hardest thing first, and then once I've done that thing, 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.920 I just end up doing everything else because you've got 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:41.760 the hard thing out of the way. So if you're 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.200 like me and you have a lot of energy in 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.040 the morning and you want to do everything in the morning, 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.240 try to eat the frog method. Because once you get 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.440 the hardest part of your workday out of the way, 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.640 if you're able to do so, everything else just seems 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.000 so much easier and you're less likely to procrastinate. It 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.360 is like the best thing I've ever tried. I also 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.280 wrote a piece of it, which will link in the 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.000 show notes because I tell everyone to eat the frog. 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:04.640 It's so good. 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.360 Oh my god, that's so clever, because I do think 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.559 you can end up. You think you've sat down to 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.000 start the task you've been procrastinating about, but really you've 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.080 just been doing the busy work. It's like I did 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.840 the formatting. I literally chose the font, and it's like, 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.959 is that really did you really start or are you 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:21.080 just choosing the font? 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:22.920 Did you really start or you're just playing with your 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:23.840 color palette? Yeah? 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.160 Literally, But then one of the ones that actually I 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:30.280 forgot to mention at the start that is so so 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.280 basic and it's almost laughable that this is a tip, 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.440 but it actually really really helps me sometimes as well. 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.079 Is just count down from five. Like when you get 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.520 to zero, you just start like that's so good, just 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.640 sitting there, like you're just sitting there. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:47.320 Going, oh, I can't. 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:48.760 Then you get up and you walking around, You get 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:49.800 a cup of tea, and then you're like, oh, I 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.920 probably need a Wii. You go where you come back, 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:55.199 like pacing around. Sometimes it's like just count have from 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.240 five and don't give yourself the option. When I get 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.600 to zero, I'm starting like there's no choice, and suddenly 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:04.040 you kind of can't procrastinate anymore because the countdown's counted down. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.680 You know, we're at zero, it's two about a zero. 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:07.480 You got to do it. 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:09.320 Oh my god, I'm going to try that next time 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.920 because that sounds right up my alley. So whoever's procrastinating 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.480 their work and listening to this episode right now, if 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.160 you're going to stop, you're going to do one task 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:19.640 and then you're going to come back and listen to 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.840 the rest of the episode right now. Okay, our second 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:28.800 question comes from Carly in Newcastle, and she says, I've 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.400 just started a new job and I'm desperate not to 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:36.800 be the forgettable new person. Beyond bringing treats and smiling, 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.720 what's one unexpected thing I can do to actually stand 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.480 out and make genuine connections? The office already has a 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.800 fun shirt guy and a sour dough lady. Help me 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:52.160 find my workplace identity without trying too hard or being weird. 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.280 Oh my god, this is really Sie. 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.360 I mean, Carly, I feel like you're doing so well 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.720 even by caring about this, Like, I love that you 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:03.679 want to be memorable. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.600 I think also like beyond bringing treats and smiling, like 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.960 I'd love to be known as the girl who smiles, 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.520 like the smiling girl Like that's so sweet and I 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.280 love joice everyone. 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:19.680 Yeah, look, I think my best advice on this one 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.679 is make it something you can sustain, Like, I think 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.959 it is easy to want to be like the fun 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.280 shirt guy or the sour dough lady or find your thing, 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.679 but don't force it if it's something that you're not, 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.240 because then once you're the sour dough lady, you've got 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.520 to bring sourdough for the rest of your time at 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:39.760 that workplace. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.840 And that's expensive, right, Like you're also funding that, like 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.040 it's a side hustle that you're getting nothing out of it. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.960 Like if you don't like making sourdo don't become the 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.760 sourdough lady because everyone is going to expect it from you. 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:53.959 You'll be memorable for the wrong reason if one day 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.160 you start trying to charge them for the sowdough that 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.400 you've been making this whole entire time. So main point 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.880 number one is, don't become the sourdoughd lady unless you're 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.400 really ready to commit. But point number two, if you 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.559 don't want to be the person who brings treats and 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.960 kind of does something that you know is kind of generic, 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.200 but you want to be memorable to make connections. One 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.120 thing that I always did, which I actually loved doing 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.280 because it was really rewarding for me as well to 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.199 learn interesting things about my colleagues that I otherwise wouldn't 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:27.240 is to make notes or don't even need to write 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:29.600 it down. But whenever someone mentions like, oh I did 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.640 that at golf on the weekend, or oh I did 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.840 that with my dog because I love you know, I 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.840 breed dogs, or my mom's a dog breeder, or I 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.000 have a dog grooming business on the side. Everyone will 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.760 drop a little fun fact about themselves at some point, 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.720 and instead of just bringing a random treat that's generic 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.320 to everyone, why don't you create some kind of thing 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.560 that you do with that person, whether it's bring them 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.800 a gift or send them a link to their email. 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.120 When you see that there's like if they have Golden Retrievers, 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.439 for example, you see an ad for the Golden Retriever 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.360 meet up boy, Like I think there was one in 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.400 in Melbourne recently that was like the most Golden Retrievers 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:05.679 ever in one spot and they said a Guinness World Record. 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.480 Like, oh my actual dream, Like that is what heaven 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:08.240 looks like to me. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.640 Legit, but like if someone says that to you, if 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:13.520 you said that to me at work, then for me 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.360 to send you back that link one day and say 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.320 I saw this when I was like scrolling and it 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.280 made me think of you. That's how I feel like 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.800 you can create a really genuine connection that's so cute, 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.440 or bring them in like a cute dog treat that's 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:29.520 for their Golden Retriever, or you know, if it's a golfer, Like, 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.600 next time there's a tournament coming out, just say oh, 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.720 I saw that there were tickets or whatever it is. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.200 I feel like there are ways that you can connect 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.320 with someone and they will remember you. Like you don't 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:41.680 have to be remembered by everyone is the same title. 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.040 You don't want to be the entire officer's funshirt guy. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.400 You can just be the thoughtful person who remembered that. 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.280 I like golden retrievers. I feel like that's a really 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:49.120 cute way to do it. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.720 That's so nice, that's actually so good. And also like 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:56.079 what people will love about you, Like I think even 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:59.280 outside of the workplace, anyone that like has showed that 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.280 they paid a teen to what you said and listen 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.040 and considered it and then thought of you when they 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.120 saw this thing. It's just so so nice. It's such 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.040 a good quality to have as a person in general. 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.200 And I also want to say that, like people could 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.840 just know you for just being Kali, like just being 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.880 a really nice, good coworker, Like you don't have to 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:20.720 have a stick or you don't have to have a thing, 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.680 because I think like people should just know you as 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.760 who you are as a person, then they should know 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.640 your name and just don't think too much into it 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:29.880 because it would just come naturally. 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.600 That's so true. Reminds me of oh my gosh, my 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:34.760 terrible memory. Guys. 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:36.360 If you've listened to a couple of episodes, you'll know 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:37.800 I have a really bad memory, and I can never 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.000 think of the powerful example that I'm going to remember it, 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:44.280 like Midnight Tonight, but there's a TV show where someone's 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.480 trying to manufacture their own nickname, and it's like, you 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.480 can't give yourself the nickname, like you have to wait 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.680 for it to come from what other people think of you. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.480 So I also think, don't try and manufacture the thing 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:57.680 you remembered for, like you said, just be who you 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.360 are and let everyone decide thing that they love about you. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.160 Like it's kind of nice to think that if other 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.600 people around you were asked what's the most memorable thing 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:08.640 about Carlie, that they would have a different answer to 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:16.120 what you might think. Like that's lovely about relationships. 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.920 Our next question comes from Drew and she says this 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.920 is all about how to navigate social media when you've 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.040 joined a workforce. So she said, I'm being flooded with 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.480 social media requests from older colleagues. At my new job, 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:36.080 I'm quite active on my personal account and prefer keeping 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.520 work and personal life separate to complicate matters. I don't 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:43.320 want to accept some colleagues requests while declining others. They 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.600 would know by now I've seen their requests. Help. What's 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.880 the most professional way to maintain my social media boundaries 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.680 without offending anyone? I actually have no answer for this. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.600 I love how it's older colleagues. 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:01.200 If I left my job. That's a really interesting one, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.920 and I think it's increasingly common because I don't know, 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.640 a couple of years ago, even this wasn't an issue 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.120 because you didn't really have social media. You didn't have 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.080 to worry about that, and if there were connections, it 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.240 was more professional anyway. 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:13.920 It was like LinkedIn. 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:19.239 So I think, as someone whose entire life is social media, 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.880 including my career, like, I'm probably not the most qualified 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.800 to talk about the delineation of the two and. 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:24.680 Keeping them separate. 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.920 But when I was in corporate and I did want 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:31.280 to keep my career and even my side hustle very separate, 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.040 I didn't want anyone to know that we had started 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.040 the business when we did, so I didn't tell anyone 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:39.040 you have two options. You can either create two and 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:42.960 some people don't mind managing their work page and their 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.760 personal page. But that's more if you have a business 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.280 and if you don't, if you're at a workplace, it's 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:49.840 kind of a lot of effort to just create a 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:52.720 separate personal It's like two fake life the ones with 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.560 your work friends, and one isn't. Yeah, it's like yeah, literally, 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:56.320 it's like a finster. 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:01.560 I love this business so much, having a great here's love. 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:06.600 Extra learning, here's a financial review that I'm reading with 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.639 my green juice. I think that's probably a bit much 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.000 unless it's the case of having a business page in 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:13.240 a personal page. 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.520 And they've already had friend or requests from their personal 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.000 page as well, so they like their colleagues, have already 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.320 established they found the personal page. 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.360 And then I think in that situation, if you do 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.480 come to a position with some of your work friends 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.920 where you want them to be, you're not your real friends, 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.320 and you want to accept them, but you don't want 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.520 to accept everyone, I think you are going to have 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.879 to just accept that. You will probably offend some people, 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.359 like if they are going to know that you haven't 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.960 accepted their request, but you still don't want them to 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.600 be your friend. There's really no way around it. My 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:48.280 big thing is just make clear rules for you on 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.840 who's going to become a real life friend versus a 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.000 work friend. And when you let people cross that boundary, 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.600 people might get offended, but at least you know where 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.760 you stand. It's like, well, but we're not friends, we 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:00.919 don't hang out. Is the rule that we've got to 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:02.919 hang out outside of work? Is the rule that we 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.719 do other activities? Could you justify it to them if 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.960 they actually confronted you, like if they said, why didn't 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:11.320 you accept my request? Could you actually say, well, because 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.959 I have coffee with that person, I don't have coffee 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.800 with you. Like, if you could justify it, then you 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.160 shouldn't feel bad about it, even if they are offended. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.000 If you can't justify it and it's simply because like 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:23.200 I don't know, I don't like your fashion or something, 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:25.040 then that's where it gets a little bit harder. But 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.879 it's your page. You don't owe them anything, So in 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:29.800 the end you probably just have to get comfortable with 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:31.560 the fact that you might offend some people. But that's 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.639 the same with everything in life. It's your page. You 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:34.680 don't know it to anybody. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.639 It's so true, But I could personally never I'd be like, 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.040 I'll accept you right now, here's some money, take everything. 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:46.879 No, same, I mean. My other thing is, I'm so 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:50.679 curious that your colleagues would know that you'd accepted some 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:54.000