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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast From Mama Mia. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura

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Speaker 1: Brodneck and I'm a Benham And coming up on the

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Speaker 1: show today, we have a Gwyneth Paltrow disaster we must

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Speaker 1: talk about. It's to do with her groop a gift guide.

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Speaker 1: This is something we cover every year, but this year

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Speaker 1: is very, very different. It's gonna be hard for me

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Speaker 1: to talk about, but we will push through. Parsley and no,

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Speaker 1: not traumatic, Emily, it's a real thing. I'm having a meltdown. Plus,

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Speaker 1: a Hollywood legend passed away this week under very tragic circumstances,

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Speaker 1: rob Berin. Now we're gonna be talking about his legacy

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Speaker 1: because there is so much about this man who has

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Speaker 1: shaped all of our lives. Some people don't even know

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Speaker 1: what he has made, all of our favorite movies and

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Speaker 1: the stories about how he made them, Like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: they should make a movie about that. I'm sure they

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Speaker 1: will one day. Oh ye, oh my god. I would

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Speaker 1: watch the hell out of that. But first, some other

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Speaker 1: very pressing news.

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Speaker 2: A little known actor by the name of George Clooney

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Speaker 2: might have heard of him. Yes, he went on Daily

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Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't go to Daily Mail.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine he wrote from his late Como mansion.

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Speaker 1: He calls daily Mails like he.

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Speaker 2: Wrote an Omedaily Mail.

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Speaker 1: That would actually I would love that because I would

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Speaker 1: be like, well done, George, an unexpected move when people

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Speaker 1: thought you had no unexpected moves left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, this is a very unexpected move from him.

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Speaker 2: But he didn't interview Daily Mail and he said I'm

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Speaker 2: not kissing girls anymore.

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Speaker 1: Thought, I hate this. I hate this George Clooney. And

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Speaker 1: as previously said it because you and I were talking

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Speaker 1: about his new movie J Kelly the other day and

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Speaker 1: we started kind of sideway.

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Speaker 2: Talking up for an Oscar.

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Speaker 1: He's for an Oscar, yet he's potentially in the mix,

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Speaker 1: like the Oscar nominations haven't come out yet, but he's

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Speaker 1: he's in the mix for Best Actor for this movie.

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Speaker 1: And so people have been talking about his legacy, and

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Speaker 1: we were talking about his legacy, and I was saying

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Speaker 1: that I'm never sexually attracted to George Clooney. I find

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Speaker 1: him like more of like a dad figure. But I

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Speaker 1: still want to see my dad kiss people on screen.

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Speaker 1: I don't think George Clooney is it it? I don't

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Speaker 1: him be a romantic lead. Can you imagine if they're

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Speaker 1: talking about making another Oceans movie, Well, he's just not

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Speaker 1: gonna kiss Julia Roberts just gonna shake hand.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna kiss Brad Pitt.

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Speaker 1: Those two want to kiss, so they want to kiss

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Speaker 1: so bad. Do you not want to see George Clooney

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Speaker 2: It's so weird because I feel like I had their

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Speaker 2: complete opposite opinion as you where. I'm still very sexually

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Speaker 2: attracted to George Clooney, but I don't want to Kis.

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Speaker 2: I don't want se Hi kiss anyone besides me. I

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Speaker 2: actually like, I'm not interested in those storylines of these

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Speaker 2: big Hollywood elite men who are past that prime.

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Speaker 1: Wow. No, no, no, here's a thing.

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Speaker 2: You know what? You know what did it for me?

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Speaker 2: What his other love of Brad Pitt in the F

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Speaker 2: One movie this year? Oh really, Brad Pitt had a

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Speaker 2: romantic kind of line that went through the movie. It

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Speaker 2: was so pointless. He's like he had a love interest

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Speaker 2: and it was pointless who was the love interest? It

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Speaker 2: didn't go anywhere. So he plays like the f one

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Speaker 2: on the director level. And of course what does she do.

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Speaker 2: She wants to sleep with her f one driver because

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Speaker 2: like she's a woman and he's Brad Pitt and all

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Speaker 2: they did was like hook up one night and that

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Speaker 1: Okay, didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: And that was the reason why Simone Ashley, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to see that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and also that whole thing. You can only have

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Speaker 2: So I think George saw what happened to brad and

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's I actually don't think. I'mm colooney

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Speaker 2: He said that he had a conversation with her when

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Speaker 2: he turned sixty, and then he eluded that that was

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Speaker 2: the reason why he's not going to kiss any more women.

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Speaker 2: But he also said when I turned sixty, I had

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Speaker 2: a conversation with my wife. I said, I said, look,

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Speaker 2: I can still play basketball with the boys. I play

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Speaker 2: with twenty five year old guys. I can still hang

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Speaker 2: I'm in shape. But in twenty five years, I'm eighty

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Speaker 2: five years old. It doesn't matter how many granola bars

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Speaker 1: A mars like I have a real job mark like

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Speaker 1: she walked away.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm currently like dealing with a crisis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm crisis.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to speak at the un Can you just

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Speaker 2: hold on.

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Speaker 1: I can't talk about your granola bars in the basketball

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Speaker 1: I'm dealing with these twins. Yeah, the twin's late Toad, Gross.

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Speaker 2: You're having a crisis right now and you're well past

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Speaker 2: the crisis age.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, Like I agree with you that

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see George Clooney macking on like

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Speaker 1: a twenty five year old unless it's part of the plot.

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Speaker 1: So I understand that, But I don't think that there's

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to be an actor. An actor is just

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Speaker 1: no men over sixty in the entire world kiss anyone exactly.

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Speaker 2: Actually, now I'm coming on your side, thank you. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: I know what you mean, Like I don't want them

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Speaker 2: that's I'm done with that story. Yeah, but I think

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Speaker 2: they're allowed. I mean he did that one with Julia

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Speaker 2: Roberts recently about the divorce parents.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ticket to Paradise. That was not good. That was

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Speaker 1: not a good movie. And did you I loved the

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Speaker 1: idea of it. I watch anything he's no, I know,

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Speaker 1: I loved the idea of it.

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Speaker 2: I love them together.

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Speaker 1: The script wasn't good, Yeah, the script, there was no

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Speaker 2: They don't need magic in the words.

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Speaker 1: No, they did, they did right now they need an

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Speaker 1: thing to George Colooney right now, I'd be like, first

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Speaker 1: of all, love you as a dad. Second of all,

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Speaker 1: you can still kiss women on screen as long as

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Speaker 1: the you know what.

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Speaker 2: He's doing, it calls for it, which we're not allowed

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Speaker 1: Oh, you can't do that, George can't do that. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: And I just think also, like we want you want

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Speaker 2: I don't want to see you drive an F one car.

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Speaker 1: Yeah enough, that's what you don't want to see.

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Speaker 2: No, I just want to see George Ploney in like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that is what he's doing. And wait, has it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, look it's a rumor. It hasn't. I've done a

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Speaker 1: It's a rumor that has like really, it's got legs,

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Speaker 1: it's got legs, it's running.

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Speaker 2: And like, I know it's a rumor because every publication

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Speaker 2: And I can't find the sorts the source material. But

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Speaker 2: there's this rumor going around socials and Twitter that Callum

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Speaker 2: Turner has also taken a stance against kissing other women.

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Speaker 2: And he said, and this is a rumored quote, my

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't like this.

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Speaker 2: Why he's just started Yeah, and I want to see

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Speaker 2: him kiss people?

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Speaker 1: No? No, no?

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Speaker 2: When this also is kissing people?

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Speaker 1: Is he just filmed a kissing movie eternity great movie

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Speaker 1: he's he's obviously kissing people. Here's the thing. I know

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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, and then Callum Turna says he's not

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Speaker 1: do you mean you're going to kiss people? You just

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Speaker 1: got your big break into movies. You're finally a leading man, you're.

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Speaker 2: Finally known as something other than Jua Lipa's boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: And instead of running with that, you've now put yourself

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Speaker 2: We're getting mad at him for no Rachel, imagine Callan.

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Speaker 1: He's the guys, I'm kissing people. I promise I'll kiss anyone,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is also a wild rumor.

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Speaker 2: While we're at it, I reckon he said something like

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Speaker 2: I like kissing my girlfriend, and everyone's like, he's never

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Speaker 1: Well, apparently the rumor is that he and Dure are

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: seem like they'd be having like a wild Italian summer wedding.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just interesting that he could be in

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Speaker 1: to his rehearsal dinner, and all the headlines like Callum

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Speaker 1: Turner refuses to kiss on screen.

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Speaker 2: He's like, what I should just getting married. I'm not

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Speaker 1: Oh man, what a well god is men? These men?

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Speaker 2: But anyway, and want to see Callum Turner kiss more

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Speaker 2: people we want to see George Clooney just stop talking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to see people kiss on screen

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Speaker 1: in general. I'm just bring back sex scenes in movies.

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Speaker 1: It's been a bit of a dry year, that's all.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that. A lot of there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of violence. There's been a lot of sadness, which has

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Speaker 1: been fine. There's been a bit of singing lovely, not

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Speaker 1: a lot of sex. One's the last time He's a

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Speaker 1: sexy movie except for Sinners. That was so Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: That's so true. Its like yesterday exactly.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, so more kissing on screen. So, Emily, something bad

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Speaker 2: That's so nice, But you buy this concert case instead

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Speaker 2: Pushes all the toothpaste too. What I used to do

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Speaker 1: Oh, I just squeezed it. When I just go buy

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I like use every bit. I cut mine open,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to waste it.

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Speaker 2: It's literally a computer. It's like has a keyboard and

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Speaker 1: So that's a computer.

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Speaker 1: But it is someone trying to be whimsical. They're like,

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Speaker 1: You've got to go take your take your laptop to

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Speaker 1: Eight not the worst thing. I actually kind of want

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Speaker 2: Well, anyone wants to get you that the gift. It

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Speaker 2: won't be me. It's just one thousand, six hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: I could just turn my Internet off and just type

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Speaker 2: Literally literally do that.

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Speaker 2: Then there's this other one. It's called the Viva Levulva vibrator.

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Speaker 2: One and fifty dollars. It's not a weird thing, but

439
00:18:17,474 --> 00:18:20,274
Speaker 2: when I looked at it, I didn't understand it.

440
00:18:20,674 --> 00:18:24,194
Speaker 1: Oh, because the thing is i'd usually the vibrator section

441
00:18:24,274 --> 00:18:26,474
Speaker 1: of the group gift guide is where Gwyneth Paltrow really

442
00:18:26,474 --> 00:18:29,634
Speaker 1: comes through with a weird and wonderful vibrator. But again,

443
00:18:29,674 --> 00:18:31,554
Speaker 1: when I was looking at the vibrators this time, why

444
00:18:31,594 --> 00:18:34,554
Speaker 1: does that look like a headband? I don't show me

445
00:18:34,594 --> 00:18:34,954
Speaker 1: a picture.

446
00:18:35,154 --> 00:18:38,994
Speaker 2: She's also holding it on her back. There's a back massage.

447
00:18:40,114 --> 00:18:41,634
Speaker 2: Find your rhythm.

448
00:18:41,994 --> 00:18:43,074
Speaker 1: What's the description say?

449
00:18:43,314 --> 00:18:46,234
Speaker 2: It's a very pretty vibrator literal simulator.

450
00:18:46,354 --> 00:18:46,994
Speaker 1: Yeah.

451
00:18:47,074 --> 00:18:49,234
Speaker 2: Wait, but how does that go on your clip? It's

452
00:18:49,314 --> 00:18:49,914
Speaker 2: quite big.

453
00:18:50,034 --> 00:18:52,634
Speaker 1: No, it's like literally the size of a headband.

454
00:18:53,554 --> 00:18:57,394
Speaker 2: For deeply satisfying. Oh, use your thumb and middle finger

455
00:18:57,514 --> 00:19:01,314
Speaker 2: to grasp the gold sphere in the middle. Then place

456
00:19:01,434 --> 00:19:04,154
Speaker 2: the highest point of the arch on your clitteris or

457
00:19:04,194 --> 00:19:08,114
Speaker 2: whatever feels good for targeted simulation. Hmmm.

458
00:19:09,234 --> 00:19:10,033
Speaker 1: I don't know about that.

459
00:19:10,034 --> 00:19:10,954
Speaker 2: I know about this one.

460
00:19:12,834 --> 00:19:15,353
Speaker 1: Ours are just like a technical question, which is like

461
00:19:16,314 --> 00:19:20,874
Speaker 1: I need, I need, I need something like you. I mention.

462
00:19:20,954 --> 00:19:22,874
Speaker 1: If you open the box and this massive green thing

463
00:19:22,954 --> 00:19:24,194
Speaker 1: came out, it looks.

464
00:19:24,034 --> 00:19:26,394
Speaker 2: If someone got me this as a gift, I would

465
00:19:26,394 --> 00:19:29,194
Speaker 2: display it as like a sculpture because I would have

466
00:19:29,234 --> 00:19:29,994
Speaker 2: no idea what.

467
00:19:30,354 --> 00:19:31,273
Speaker 1: It's very pretty.

468
00:19:31,474 --> 00:19:33,874
Speaker 2: It looks like something that would hold a candle.

469
00:19:33,794 --> 00:19:35,474
Speaker 1: It does. It looks like yeah, it looks like it

470
00:19:35,514 --> 00:19:37,234
Speaker 1: has like almost like a sea shirt.

471
00:19:37,274 --> 00:19:39,834
Speaker 2: And then you invite a super rich friend over and

472
00:19:40,074 --> 00:19:43,793
Speaker 2: have your on your like dining day, and you're like, well,

473
00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:45,874
Speaker 2: I thought it was first of all, second of all,

474
00:19:45,914 --> 00:19:47,194
Speaker 2: don't shame women for their pleasure.

475
00:19:47,434 --> 00:19:49,354
Speaker 1: Second of all, can you show me how to use it?

476
00:19:49,874 --> 00:19:50,714
Speaker 2: I need a tutorial.

477
00:19:51,194 --> 00:19:53,593
Speaker 1: Yeah, get on the back. Thing's massive, but not massive

478
00:19:53,594 --> 00:19:56,114
Speaker 1: in a way like old school vibrators of your when

479
00:19:56,114 --> 00:19:57,594
Speaker 1: they were like those huge you know the ones that

480
00:19:57,674 --> 00:19:58,994
Speaker 1: used to have like showing sex and city, when they

481
00:19:59,034 --> 00:20:02,434
Speaker 1: were just like these huge kind of like stick things where.

482
00:20:02,314 --> 00:20:06,674
Speaker 2: And people are like, who's drilling outside? So loud?

483
00:20:07,194 --> 00:20:10,274
Speaker 1: Exactly? What's the anything that makes like a gentle per

484
00:20:10,834 --> 00:20:15,594
Speaker 1: or probably makes the sound of the sea. It looks

485
00:20:15,594 --> 00:20:16,314
Speaker 1: like a seashell.

486
00:20:17,714 --> 00:20:23,354
Speaker 2: It has ten vibration modes, three steady intensities, and seven patterns. Okay,

487
00:20:23,514 --> 00:20:25,474
Speaker 2: too much if you're a type of person who uses

488
00:20:25,514 --> 00:20:28,234
Speaker 2: the pattern on a vibrator where it's like you know how'

489
00:20:28,234 --> 00:20:32,594
Speaker 2: to like like, obviously we're all in the using those

490
00:20:32,594 --> 00:20:34,994
Speaker 2: three Yeah, like I didn't know the people who are

491
00:20:35,114 --> 00:20:36,954
Speaker 2: like the ones who choose the ones that are like

492
00:20:37,274 --> 00:20:41,354
Speaker 2: zen then zin zen, Like no one wants a pattern

493
00:20:42,834 --> 00:20:43,674
Speaker 2: that's too much.

494
00:20:43,954 --> 00:20:46,634
Speaker 1: It's too much. You're already having to maneuver it. Do

495
00:20:46,674 --> 00:20:50,954
Speaker 1: you think if you manage to get that in, you

496
00:20:50,994 --> 00:20:55,634
Speaker 1: can't be thinking of anything else, no other variable.

497
00:20:56,034 --> 00:20:58,074
Speaker 2: There's no way you're looking this out with a partner.

498
00:20:58,994 --> 00:21:00,754
Speaker 1: Well, it might be a two person job, because how

499
00:21:00,754 --> 00:21:01,954
Speaker 1: else are you going to maneuver it?

500
00:21:02,194 --> 00:21:02,674
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?

501
00:21:02,754 --> 00:21:03,074
Speaker 1: Oh wait?

502
00:21:03,114 --> 00:21:03,794
Speaker 2: Did I say?

503
00:21:03,954 --> 00:21:05,754
Speaker 1: It doesn't go add.

504
00:21:05,554 --> 00:21:08,033
Speaker 2: It solo or pass the toll to a partner and

505
00:21:08,154 --> 00:21:10,714
Speaker 2: explore its rumley vibrations together.

506
00:21:11,194 --> 00:21:12,754
Speaker 1: You need to buzz apart and be like, hey, can

507
00:21:12,794 --> 00:21:13,274
Speaker 1: you think.

508
00:21:13,994 --> 00:21:15,394
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even know where to keep this? Like it

509
00:21:15,394 --> 00:21:16,593
Speaker 2: wouldn't fit in my drawer.

510
00:21:16,994 --> 00:21:18,874
Speaker 1: No, it's not one of those like little chic ones

511
00:21:18,914 --> 00:21:20,273
Speaker 1: you can have in the bedside draw.

512
00:21:20,274 --> 00:21:21,994
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why it's so nice, because you are meant

513
00:21:21,994 --> 00:21:22,594
Speaker 2: to display it.

514
00:21:22,634 --> 00:21:24,714
Speaker 1: I think, look how beautiful she's holding that in the photo.

515
00:21:24,754 --> 00:21:27,474
Speaker 1: It looks really good art, I think, And you know

516
00:21:27,514 --> 00:21:29,474
Speaker 1: what that goes with the color that beautiful emerald bar

517
00:21:29,674 --> 00:21:30,634
Speaker 1: does say it's quiet.

518
00:21:30,954 --> 00:21:33,154
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I needed a definition on quiet.

519
00:21:33,514 --> 00:21:35,634
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. But also the noise of that is not.

520
00:21:35,674 --> 00:21:37,634
Speaker 1: What I'm worried about is the sheer's size. And like

521
00:21:37,834 --> 00:21:39,954
Speaker 1: the fact that it does look built to go in anywhere.

522
00:21:40,194 --> 00:21:42,634
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks Yeah, it looks like the side.

523
00:21:42,674 --> 00:21:44,914
Speaker 1: But the color of that would be love with your apartment.

524
00:21:44,954 --> 00:21:46,954
Speaker 1: That emerald green. Yeah, both of your stuff.

525
00:21:46,954 --> 00:21:49,474
Speaker 2: This does go which I really want you to get that.

526
00:21:51,314 --> 00:21:53,954
Speaker 1: Let's expense it to Mamma Mia. Okay, that's yeah, and

527
00:21:53,994 --> 00:21:56,074
Speaker 1: then you can do a trial, try and test the girls.

528
00:21:56,074 --> 00:21:57,994
Speaker 1: I love it, try and test it. And well, the

529
00:21:58,034 --> 00:21:59,874
Speaker 1: thing is, I was gonna say, you should display this art.

530
00:21:59,874 --> 00:22:01,033
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can do a trial and

531
00:22:01,034 --> 00:22:02,914
Speaker 1: tested and displayed his art or maybe you can.

532
00:22:03,594 --> 00:22:04,794
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll do the art first.

533
00:22:04,994 --> 00:22:07,074
Speaker 1: Yeah, and try how pretty with that look on your

534
00:22:07,274 --> 00:22:08,074
Speaker 1: table next to a little bit.

535
00:22:08,074 --> 00:22:10,234
Speaker 2: It does look really nice. If anyone wants to get

536
00:22:10,234 --> 00:22:11,593
Speaker 2: me it, yeah, I'll happily.

537
00:22:12,074 --> 00:22:14,033
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you've had a few things, but you

538
00:22:14,154 --> 00:22:15,754
Speaker 1: have to admit that is not as crazy.

539
00:22:15,874 --> 00:22:16,714
Speaker 2: It was disappointing.

540
00:22:16,874 --> 00:22:19,793
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not a jade against sight. There's nothing there

541
00:22:19,834 --> 00:22:21,874
Speaker 1: that made me feel like I could potentially die if

542
00:22:21,914 --> 00:22:24,634
Speaker 1: I used it, and usually that's what the Goop Gift

543
00:22:24,634 --> 00:22:25,594
Speaker 1: Guide promises us.

544
00:22:25,674 --> 00:22:30,033
Speaker 2: Maybe there was a portable infrared sauna. That doesn't sound no,

545
00:22:30,074 --> 00:22:30,594
Speaker 2: but that's the.

546
00:22:30,514 --> 00:22:32,114
Speaker 1: Thing why I saw. I was like, oh, is that weird?

547
00:22:32,114 --> 00:22:33,154
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, I feel like I know

548
00:22:33,194 --> 00:22:36,434
Speaker 1: people who have shit like that. It's not that wild.

549
00:22:37,554 --> 00:22:39,833
Speaker 1: I think whether this has become relatable the worst thing

550
00:22:39,874 --> 00:22:42,314
Speaker 1: that could happen to any of us. I mean, she's

551
00:22:42,314 --> 00:22:44,553
Speaker 1: still like witch and crazy, but like all the stuff

552
00:22:44,594 --> 00:22:46,914
Speaker 1: she does now just sounds like what my friends do

553
00:22:46,994 --> 00:22:47,513
Speaker 1: on a weekend.

554
00:22:47,634 --> 00:22:50,874
Speaker 2: I think you need to write a review, really honest

555
00:22:50,874 --> 00:22:53,274
Speaker 2: review of this, of the Gift Guide, and we send

556
00:22:53,274 --> 00:22:55,154
Speaker 2: it to her and then she gets it.

557
00:22:55,474 --> 00:22:56,834
Speaker 1: I'll be like, what if I want you to be

558
00:22:56,874 --> 00:23:00,434
Speaker 1: crazy and unrelatable? There's the whole point of view I can't. Yeah,

559
00:23:00,554 --> 00:23:02,674
Speaker 1: so sad days with the Gift Guide.

560
00:23:02,674 --> 00:23:03,874
Speaker 2: It's very sad Christmas.

561
00:23:03,994 --> 00:23:06,634
Speaker 1: Yeah, real real indicator of where the world was going.

562
00:23:12,554 --> 00:23:14,874
Speaker 1: So this week we had some very sad news out

563
00:23:14,874 --> 00:23:19,714
Speaker 1: of Hollywood, and that was the fact that legendary actor, producer, writer,

564
00:23:19,914 --> 00:23:23,874
Speaker 1: director Rob Reiner had been killed along with his wife,

565
00:23:23,914 --> 00:23:27,634
Speaker 1: Michelle Singer Rhino, who was also a very celebrated photographer

566
00:23:27,674 --> 00:23:30,794
Speaker 1: and producer, and the couple were found dead in their

567
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles home a few hours later, their sons. They

568
00:23:34,234 --> 00:23:37,914
Speaker 1: shared three children together. Their son, Nick Reiner, was apprehended

569
00:23:37,914 --> 00:23:40,714
Speaker 1: by police and has since been charged with two counts

570
00:23:40,714 --> 00:23:44,833
Speaker 1: of first degree murder and has appeared in court this week. Obviously,

571
00:23:44,874 --> 00:23:48,594
Speaker 1: there's a lot of horrific details around this story. Rob

572
00:23:48,714 --> 00:23:51,794
Speaker 1: Hiner has spoken for many years about his son Nick

573
00:23:51,874 --> 00:23:54,714
Speaker 1: going through a lot of addiction challenges. The father and

574
00:23:54,754 --> 00:23:58,033
Speaker 1: son even made a movie about it together. There's details

575
00:23:58,074 --> 00:24:00,234
Speaker 1: about them being at a Christmas party the night before

576
00:24:00,314 --> 00:24:03,553
Speaker 1: and having an altercation, and different celebrities who are involved

577
00:24:03,594 --> 00:24:06,194
Speaker 1: in that. There's stories of their daughter romy being the

578
00:24:06,234 --> 00:24:08,194
Speaker 1: one to come and discus their bodies, and there's a

579
00:24:08,194 --> 00:24:11,074
Speaker 1: lot of horrific details. And I'm sure more horrific details

580
00:24:11,474 --> 00:24:14,273
Speaker 1: will come out about this as the court case progresses.

581
00:24:14,874 --> 00:24:17,834
Speaker 1: But I didn't want to really center on that today.

582
00:24:17,914 --> 00:24:20,914
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk more about his legacy as a filmmaker,

583
00:24:20,994 --> 00:24:23,674
Speaker 1: because this is a man like I'm sure most people

584
00:24:23,754 --> 00:24:25,234
Speaker 1: know his name. The thing is, even if you don't

585
00:24:25,274 --> 00:24:28,714
Speaker 1: know his name. His movies have shaped not only like

586
00:24:28,754 --> 00:24:31,154
Speaker 1: the lives of so many people, but also have just

587
00:24:31,194 --> 00:24:33,914
Speaker 1: shaped how Hollywood is now and the movies that we love.

588
00:24:34,594 --> 00:24:36,593
Speaker 1: And when I was thinking about how to kind of

589
00:24:36,674 --> 00:24:40,074
Speaker 1: describe how this man's movies have kind of shaped us,

590
00:24:40,114 --> 00:24:41,914
Speaker 1: I remembered a time many years ago when I was

591
00:24:41,954 --> 00:24:43,714
Speaker 1: on a trip with a friend and we'd had, you know,

592
00:24:44,074 --> 00:24:47,794
Speaker 1: those huge days out exploring and stuff, and so we

593
00:24:47,794 --> 00:24:49,394
Speaker 1: were having like a bit of downtime. So we were

594
00:24:49,474 --> 00:24:51,714
Speaker 1: lying on the hotel bed and we put New Girl

595
00:24:51,754 --> 00:24:53,914
Speaker 1: on the show with Zoe Deschanel because it's such a

596
00:24:53,914 --> 00:24:55,754
Speaker 1: good comfort watch and you can just watch a few

597
00:24:55,794 --> 00:24:58,434
Speaker 1: episodes anyway because you know it so well. And we

598
00:24:58,434 --> 00:25:01,234
Speaker 1: were watching it and then Rob Rianer comes on screen

599
00:25:01,314 --> 00:25:04,234
Speaker 1: because he played Jessica Day's father in the series, and

600
00:25:04,274 --> 00:25:06,394
Speaker 1: my friend goes, I love this guy in this show.

601
00:25:06,514 --> 00:25:10,034
Speaker 1: Is he another? And I was like, Matt, I was like,

602
00:25:10,114 --> 00:25:11,314
Speaker 1: I'm about to blow your mind.

603
00:25:11,434 --> 00:25:12,314
Speaker 2: Was it me that you were.

604
00:25:12,194 --> 00:25:14,793
Speaker 1: Aware it could have been you? No, it wasn't you

605
00:25:14,834 --> 00:25:16,914
Speaker 1: this time, but it could have been. And I was like,

606
00:25:16,994 --> 00:25:18,354
Speaker 1: not in a bad one, Like that's okay not to

607
00:25:18,394 --> 00:25:20,194
Speaker 1: know him, because he's very much behind the screen. But

608
00:25:20,234 --> 00:25:24,674
Speaker 1: I was like, this man has made I guarantee you

609
00:25:24,954 --> 00:25:26,594
Speaker 1: all of your favorite movies.

610
00:25:26,354 --> 00:25:29,674
Speaker 2: Which is actually wild because I think, similar to your friend,

611
00:25:30,234 --> 00:25:32,554
Speaker 2: I knew his name, I knew his face, but I

612
00:25:32,594 --> 00:25:35,074
Speaker 2: only really recognized him from New Girl.

613
00:25:35,274 --> 00:25:35,674
Speaker 1: Yeah.

614
00:25:35,714 --> 00:25:38,394
Speaker 2: And then of course after the news of his death,

615
00:25:38,554 --> 00:25:42,234
Speaker 2: everyone was just remembering him and like the work he

616
00:25:42,274 --> 00:25:46,634
Speaker 2: did as like a producer and director and so many

617
00:25:46,634 --> 00:25:49,074
Speaker 2: of these movies I just had no idea he was

618
00:25:49,074 --> 00:25:49,594
Speaker 2: involved in.

619
00:25:49,754 --> 00:25:52,034
Speaker 1: People talk about him having one of the best historic

620
00:25:52,154 --> 00:25:55,074
Speaker 1: runs a filmmakers ever had. He started as an actor.

621
00:25:55,114 --> 00:25:57,513
Speaker 1: He came from a family of actors. A lot of

622
00:25:57,514 --> 00:25:59,354
Speaker 1: people love like he was recently in The Bear Like

623
00:25:59,434 --> 00:26:01,033
Speaker 1: was only a small role, but people would know him

624
00:26:01,034 --> 00:26:03,354
Speaker 1: from that with New Girl. Yeah. I mean, there's so

625
00:26:03,354 --> 00:26:05,714
Speaker 1: many of his performances I love, but I love him

626
00:26:05,714 --> 00:26:08,754
Speaker 1: in Wolf of Wall Street he plays Leonardo DiCaprio's father,

627
00:26:09,194 --> 00:26:11,274
Speaker 1: and I just think he should have got a Best

628
00:26:11,314 --> 00:26:14,474
Speaker 1: Supporting Actor nomination to that. So many things, even so

629
00:26:14,514 --> 00:26:16,394
Speaker 1: many things. He's such a good actor, just like his

630
00:26:16,554 --> 00:26:19,354
Speaker 1: comeding beats in that movie when he's screaming the answers

631
00:26:19,394 --> 00:26:21,273
Speaker 1: the phone hello, or they have like the orbit he

632
00:26:21,354 --> 00:26:24,354
Speaker 1: and Jony Helen Leonardocapri have like The Appetizer back and forth,

633
00:26:24,634 --> 00:26:28,434
Speaker 1: one of the funniest moments in cinema history. So, but

634
00:26:28,674 --> 00:26:31,674
Speaker 1: he is really known as a filmmaker. So his first

635
00:26:31,714 --> 00:26:35,394
Speaker 1: film was with the movie This Is Spinal Tap in

636
00:26:35,474 --> 00:26:38,234
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four, a movie that went on to shape

637
00:26:38,234 --> 00:26:40,834
Speaker 1: like it is the kind of defining mockumentary, and all

638
00:26:40,874 --> 00:26:43,874
Speaker 1: these mockumentaries that we have now movies and TV shows

639
00:26:44,154 --> 00:26:46,513
Speaker 1: really stemmed from that. Like people always like there's no

640
00:26:47,154 --> 00:26:49,714
Speaker 1: The Office or anything like that without This Is Spinal

641
00:26:49,714 --> 00:26:53,154
Speaker 1: Tap or without Rob Reiner. He also made the romantic

642
00:26:53,194 --> 00:26:55,874
Speaker 1: roy comedy that This Sure Thing, the coming of age

643
00:26:55,954 --> 00:26:59,154
Speaker 1: drama stand By Me, that adapted from the Stephen King Noble,

644
00:26:59,154 --> 00:27:02,114
Speaker 1: which if anyone hasn't seen that movie, it is just

645
00:27:02,154 --> 00:27:04,914
Speaker 1: so incredible, just kind of one of those defining coming

646
00:27:04,994 --> 00:27:08,274
Speaker 1: of age movies. He also made a Few Good Men,

647
00:27:08,514 --> 00:27:10,273
Speaker 1: which was went on to be like nominated for so

648
00:27:10,314 --> 00:27:13,994
Speaker 1: many Excademy Awards, such a good movie. The American President.

649
00:27:14,034 --> 00:27:14,593
Speaker 1: Have you seen that?

650
00:27:14,634 --> 00:27:15,313
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that?

651
00:27:15,394 --> 00:27:17,714
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've watched that movie a million times

652
00:27:17,754 --> 00:27:19,714
Speaker 1: because my oldest sister I really like it. But my

653
00:27:19,754 --> 00:27:22,234
Speaker 1: older sister when we were teens, was obsessed with it.

654
00:27:22,274 --> 00:27:25,594
Speaker 1: We would watch like every single weekends. So Michael Duckas

655
00:27:25,594 --> 00:27:29,274
Speaker 1: plays the President, but he's like a single dad and

656
00:27:29,314 --> 00:27:30,834
Speaker 1: he's like he lost his wife and he's just like

657
00:27:30,874 --> 00:27:32,754
Speaker 1: he just really it's one of those movies where like

658
00:27:32,794 --> 00:27:34,954
Speaker 1: the president of the United States is the hero, which

659
00:27:35,114 --> 00:27:38,434
Speaker 1: is so interesting that Rob Bariner made the ultimate kind

660
00:27:38,434 --> 00:27:38,794
Speaker 1: of like.

661
00:27:38,794 --> 00:27:39,834
Speaker 2: Literally bring that back.

662
00:27:40,154 --> 00:27:42,914
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, And it's interesting because Rob Briiner was so

663
00:27:42,954 --> 00:27:45,513
Speaker 1: outspoken against Donald Trump, and I don't want to go

664
00:27:45,554 --> 00:27:49,554
Speaker 1: into Donald Trump's heinous statements about him, because yeah, but

665
00:27:49,634 --> 00:27:53,914
Speaker 1: he it's he really did become an incredible political activist.

666
00:27:54,114 --> 00:27:56,354
Speaker 1: But it's interesting that he also made the defining rom

667
00:27:56,394 --> 00:27:58,754
Speaker 1: com about an American president because he's like, yeah, American

668
00:27:58,794 --> 00:27:59,793
Speaker 1: president should be.

669
00:27:59,754 --> 00:28:01,394
Speaker 2: That's exactly who they should be, like hero.

670
00:28:01,954 --> 00:28:05,114
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it did Michael Douglas, Anette Betting and Yeah,

671
00:28:05,114 --> 00:28:07,674
Speaker 1: it's such an incredible movie. But there's a few other

672
00:28:07,714 --> 00:28:10,314
Speaker 1: movies here that I think really deserve time and attention.

673
00:28:10,354 --> 00:28:13,434
Speaker 1: Everyone's got different favorite Rob Ryder movies, but for me,

674
00:28:14,034 --> 00:28:17,234
Speaker 1: there's you know how we only recently did our four

675
00:28:17,354 --> 00:28:21,394
Speaker 1: favorite movies of all time. Yeah, and the movie that

676
00:28:21,514 --> 00:28:23,874
Speaker 1: is on myg Sometimes I change movies, but the one

677
00:28:23,914 --> 00:28:26,674
Speaker 1: movie that's always on my list no matter what is

678
00:28:26,714 --> 00:28:30,033
Speaker 1: The Princess Bride. Yeah, which he directed. He directed that

679
00:28:30,314 --> 00:28:32,834
Speaker 1: and also yes he directed and was also like you know, so,

680
00:28:33,234 --> 00:28:35,553
Speaker 1: I mean obviously directors always involved in the movie, but

681
00:28:35,594 --> 00:28:38,794
Speaker 1: were so kind of just hands on with his development.

682
00:28:38,874 --> 00:28:41,314
Speaker 1: And when the cast talk about the movie, they talk

683
00:28:41,354 --> 00:28:44,554
Speaker 1: about his love of like not just filmmaking, but his

684
00:28:44,634 --> 00:28:48,874
Speaker 1: love of cultivating this incredible atmosphere on set. Because his

685
00:28:48,954 --> 00:28:50,994
Speaker 1: thing was always like, if we don't have this beautiful

686
00:28:50,994 --> 00:28:54,274
Speaker 1: family camaraderie on set, then that won't translate into the movie.

687
00:28:54,474 --> 00:28:56,554
Speaker 1: So he was the one who would be like doing

688
00:28:56,594 --> 00:28:58,794
Speaker 1: like the family dinners on the set of The Princess Bride,

689
00:28:58,834 --> 00:29:01,154
Speaker 1: like making sure everyone was included, like bringing people in,

690
00:29:01,354 --> 00:29:03,634
Speaker 1: I think, which is something that we've kind of moved

691
00:29:03,674 --> 00:29:06,554
Speaker 1: away from that to directors being like these crazy, you know,

692
00:29:07,114 --> 00:29:10,274
Speaker 1: antisocial filmmakers who were just like they're so artistic that

693
00:29:10,314 --> 00:29:12,634
Speaker 1: they can't be real people. And I always just think

694
00:29:12,674 --> 00:29:14,914
Speaker 1: like Robriiner was like everyone talks about him being this

695
00:29:14,954 --> 00:29:17,594
Speaker 1: incredible person, but he also made incredible movies, Like you

696
00:29:17,634 --> 00:29:18,994
Speaker 1: can do both, you don't have to be a jerk

697
00:29:19,034 --> 00:29:21,234
Speaker 1: to make a good movie. But have you seen The

698
00:29:21,234 --> 00:29:21,954
Speaker 1: Princess Bride?

699
00:29:22,554 --> 00:29:22,914
Speaker 2: Yes?

700
00:29:23,274 --> 00:29:25,954
Speaker 1: Yes, and you didn't like it? It's okay, I mean it's

701
00:29:25,994 --> 00:29:29,394
Speaker 1: not okay. But I know when did you watch it?

702
00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:33,874
Speaker 2: Though? Like literally I want to say, like a year

703
00:29:34,234 --> 00:29:35,634
Speaker 2: you told me to watch it?

704
00:29:35,714 --> 00:29:37,954
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I tell storages on the street to watch it.

705
00:29:37,994 --> 00:29:39,674
Speaker 2: Would have been when I just started working on this

706
00:29:39,714 --> 00:29:41,674
Speaker 2: spell and I just listened to everything you told.

707
00:29:41,554 --> 00:29:43,714
Speaker 1: Me to do. We should go back to that, by

708
00:29:43,754 --> 00:29:46,074
Speaker 1: the way. Well, the thing is, like I guess it is.

709
00:29:46,114 --> 00:29:48,034
Speaker 1: You know, the movie did come out many many years ago.

710
00:29:48,194 --> 00:29:50,114
Speaker 1: Like I actually tell people are really born by this.

711
00:29:50,354 --> 00:29:52,074
Speaker 2: I tell people I haven't watched it because I don't

712
00:29:52,074 --> 00:29:53,834
Speaker 2: want to see them so disappointed when.

713
00:29:54,354 --> 00:29:55,514
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, well, here's the thing.

714
00:29:55,554 --> 00:29:57,074
Speaker 2: It's just because I feel like I had to watch

715
00:29:57,114 --> 00:30:01,074
Speaker 2: it at a time where it felt magical in my life. Yeah,

716
00:30:01,114 --> 00:30:03,274
Speaker 2: and I just I think I was just past well, I.

717
00:30:03,194 --> 00:30:05,514
Speaker 1: Think why a lot of people love that movie so much.

718
00:30:05,514 --> 00:30:07,274
Speaker 1: Apart from the fact that I do personally think it's

719
00:30:07,274 --> 00:30:09,954
Speaker 1: a perfect movie. I think it's it's one of those

720
00:30:09,994 --> 00:30:12,074
Speaker 1: movies I don't remember the first time I saw it.

721
00:30:12,114 --> 00:30:13,634
Speaker 1: I have no memory of seeing it for the first time.

722
00:30:13,634 --> 00:30:16,594
Speaker 1: It was just always there, and my sisters and my

723
00:30:16,634 --> 00:30:18,994
Speaker 1: brother and I when we were like tiny little kids,

724
00:30:19,314 --> 00:30:21,554
Speaker 1: would like in the early evening before we went to bed,

725
00:30:21,634 --> 00:30:23,194
Speaker 1: or like on a Sunday afternoon, like pull all our

726
00:30:23,194 --> 00:30:25,554
Speaker 1: little bean bags out onto the living room floor and

727
00:30:25,594 --> 00:30:28,194
Speaker 1: get our little vhs of The Princess Bride out and

728
00:30:28,234 --> 00:30:30,874
Speaker 1: like blowing it, get the dust out. I used to do.

729
00:30:30,874 --> 00:30:32,314
Speaker 1: If it didn't work, you'd pull it out and blow

730
00:30:32,314 --> 00:30:33,074
Speaker 1: it and put it back in.

731
00:30:33,274 --> 00:30:35,834
Speaker 2: Well, was mine didn't work because I had folks in it.

732
00:30:36,034 --> 00:30:37,794
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a whole of thing. That's why you couldn't

733
00:30:37,834 --> 00:30:40,394
Speaker 1: enjoy cinema when you're atirt. And if anyone who hasn't

734
00:30:40,394 --> 00:30:43,314
Speaker 1: seen it, it's just this incredible, like it's an adventurous,

735
00:30:43,394 --> 00:30:46,874
Speaker 1: swashbuckling love story but also has its the most quotable

736
00:30:46,914 --> 00:30:49,554
Speaker 1: movie of all time. The timing and the lines and

737
00:30:49,554 --> 00:30:52,314
Speaker 1: the sare flights, everything about it is so good. And

738
00:30:52,994 --> 00:30:55,194
Speaker 1: not only did Rob Ryaner make that movie, but I

739
00:30:55,194 --> 00:30:56,834
Speaker 1: remember like listening it was only a few years ago.

740
00:30:56,834 --> 00:30:58,714
Speaker 1: I was listening to an interview with him talking about

741
00:30:58,714 --> 00:31:01,834
Speaker 1: the making of The Princess Bride, and he was talking

742
00:31:01,834 --> 00:31:04,474
Speaker 1: about this one like it is a perfect movie. And

743
00:31:04,474 --> 00:31:06,194
Speaker 1: when they asked him if there's anything he would change,

744
00:31:06,234 --> 00:31:09,394
Speaker 1: I was like, surely, like no one makes a perfect movie.

745
00:31:09,434 --> 00:31:11,914
Speaker 1: Surely there's nothing this man would change about it. And

746
00:31:11,954 --> 00:31:14,274
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, there's one scene. There's a horse

747
00:31:14,354 --> 00:31:18,074
Speaker 1: riding scene and buttercups on the horse like riding towards

748
00:31:18,074 --> 00:31:20,714
Speaker 1: the camera. And because of the way it's shot, there's

749
00:31:20,714 --> 00:31:23,314
Speaker 1: a lens flare in the background. A lot of filmmakers

750
00:31:23,394 --> 00:31:25,274
Speaker 1: like quite almost like the lens fans. It's like a

751
00:31:25,274 --> 00:31:28,034
Speaker 1: cinematic thing, and it goes to how they're shooting. And

752
00:31:28,194 --> 00:31:30,354
Speaker 1: Rob Ryaner hated that and every time he looks at it,

753
00:31:30,434 --> 00:31:33,034
Speaker 1: he feels disappointed because he's like, I don't want to

754
00:31:33,074 --> 00:31:35,794
Speaker 1: remind you that you're watching a movie. I don't want

755
00:31:35,794 --> 00:31:38,594
Speaker 1: you to feel like you're thinking about the actors, or

756
00:31:38,634 --> 00:31:40,394
Speaker 1: you're thinking about me as a director, or you're thinking

757
00:31:40,434 --> 00:31:42,554
Speaker 1: about the writers, Like you should just be in the movie.

758
00:31:42,914 --> 00:31:45,314
Speaker 1: And every time I see that, it just reminds people

759
00:31:45,594 --> 00:31:48,234
Speaker 1: that they're watching a thing instead of living in a world.

760
00:31:48,554 --> 00:31:50,754
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but that's what he said. Yeah, And I

761
00:31:50,794 --> 00:31:52,994
Speaker 1: always love that because I'm like that man is thinking

762
00:31:53,074 --> 00:31:53,234
Speaker 1: of me.

763
00:31:53,634 --> 00:31:54,594
Speaker 2: He was so selfless.

764
00:31:54,834 --> 00:31:56,714
Speaker 1: He's not making He's not making it for the other

765
00:31:56,794 --> 00:31:59,074
Speaker 1: film bros. He's not making it for the Academy. He's

766
00:31:59,114 --> 00:32:01,994
Speaker 1: not making it for you know, like critical acclaim. Because

767
00:32:01,994 --> 00:32:03,754
Speaker 1: also when the Princess Breay came out, like people like

768
00:32:03,834 --> 00:32:07,114
Speaker 1: this is not good. This is what I mean to

769
00:32:07,154 --> 00:32:10,194
Speaker 1: give movies a chance. And now like over thirty years later,

770
00:32:10,274 --> 00:32:12,954
Speaker 1: it is like one of the absolute cult classic, one

771
00:32:12,954 --> 00:32:14,834
Speaker 1: of the defining movies of our time. And I just

772
00:32:14,874 --> 00:32:17,874
Speaker 1: like that he gave us that. And Carrie Els, who

773
00:32:17,914 --> 00:32:20,154
Speaker 1: plays the lead in the movie, just put up like

774
00:32:20,234 --> 00:32:23,194
Speaker 1: a photo from the set and it had his chair

775
00:32:23,474 --> 00:32:26,034
Speaker 1: next to Rob Brighton's director's chair in black and white.

776
00:32:26,034 --> 00:32:29,394
Speaker 1: It was just like this beautiful tribute. So, do you

777
00:32:29,434 --> 00:32:31,074
Speaker 1: have a favorite or writing movie that you wanted to

778
00:32:31,114 --> 00:32:31,714
Speaker 1: bring up.

779
00:32:31,874 --> 00:32:32,834
Speaker 2: Besides Near Girl?

780
00:32:34,474 --> 00:32:35,954
Speaker 1: Can I say, I don't even think that he would

781
00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:37,594
Speaker 1: hate that, you think, but he's it was just.

782
00:32:37,514 --> 00:32:38,594
Speaker 2: So funny in it.

783
00:32:38,794 --> 00:32:41,354
Speaker 1: Well, it was always he was always going to be

784
00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:43,794
Speaker 1: a thing about who would play Jessica Day's parents, and

785
00:32:43,834 --> 00:32:45,794
Speaker 1: the fact that it was him and Jamie Lee Curtis,

786
00:32:46,154 --> 00:32:49,554
Speaker 1: and it was like getting them together for this comedic timing.

787
00:32:49,394 --> 00:32:52,514
Speaker 2: But they worked together before. I think they probably had

788
00:32:52,634 --> 00:32:53,394
Speaker 2: great chemistry.

789
00:32:53,394 --> 00:32:55,154
Speaker 1: Two people who have been around the traps a lot

790
00:32:55,154 --> 00:32:58,034
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. The other favorite movie

791
00:32:58,034 --> 00:32:59,514
Speaker 1: that I have that I bring up all the time

792
00:32:59,594 --> 00:33:03,154
Speaker 1: that Rob Rainer not only directed but also had a

793
00:33:03,234 --> 00:33:07,314
Speaker 1: huge hand in writing, was the defining romantic comedy of

794
00:33:07,354 --> 00:33:09,834
Speaker 1: The Last Well Forever, actually the movie that set the

795
00:33:09,834 --> 00:33:12,554
Speaker 1: path for all other romantic comedies. When Harry Matt.

796
00:33:12,354 --> 00:33:14,234
Speaker 2: Sally, Harry Matt Sally, I knew you're going to say that,

797
00:33:14,274 --> 00:33:16,114
Speaker 2: have you seen that movie? Yeah, obviously I've seen that.

798
00:33:16,194 --> 00:33:17,834
Speaker 1: I don't know, Emily, I don't know what you haven't seen.

799
00:33:18,834 --> 00:33:19,594
Speaker 1: What did you think?

800
00:33:20,194 --> 00:33:22,594
Speaker 2: I love when Harry Matt's Okay, talked about it so

801
00:33:22,674 --> 00:33:25,274
Speaker 2: many times. I know that's but still like I had

802
00:33:25,314 --> 00:33:26,634
Speaker 2: no idea of his involvement in it.

803
00:33:27,434 --> 00:33:29,634
Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is such an interesting one. So that

804
00:33:29,674 --> 00:33:34,074
Speaker 1: script was written by Nora Efron, starred Billy Crystal and

805
00:33:34,314 --> 00:33:37,834
Speaker 1: Meg Ryan. The photos that there's photos of Billy Crystal

806
00:33:38,314 --> 00:33:39,994
Speaker 1: coming in and out of his house on the night

807
00:33:40,034 --> 00:33:42,714
Speaker 1: that the murder happened, and they were really close friends.

808
00:33:42,754 --> 00:33:44,594
Speaker 1: I mean, he was also in The Princess Bride, like

809
00:33:44,674 --> 00:33:47,234
Speaker 1: it's just they have been close friends for decades, so

810
00:33:47,234 --> 00:33:49,994
Speaker 1: that's like tragically sad. Rob Braner really wanted to make

811
00:33:50,034 --> 00:33:52,394
Speaker 1: this movie and he was talking to Nora Efron about it,

812
00:33:52,514 --> 00:33:55,354
Speaker 1: and Nura Efron has always said that he was the

813
00:33:55,434 --> 00:33:57,634
Speaker 1: Harry and she was the Sally. And so they worked

814
00:33:57,634 --> 00:33:59,314
Speaker 1: and he went and made other movies, Like they had

815
00:33:59,314 --> 00:34:01,114
Speaker 1: this idea for the movie. She started writing a script,

816
00:34:01,314 --> 00:34:03,314
Speaker 1: he went and made other movies. They kept coming back

817
00:34:03,354 --> 00:34:06,154
Speaker 1: to it, and Rob Braner said he really wanted to

818
00:34:06,194 --> 00:34:09,074
Speaker 1: make a movie about whether men and women could just

819
00:34:09,114 --> 00:34:13,314
Speaker 1: be friends. And it was meant to be this this

820
00:34:13,473 --> 00:34:15,913
Speaker 1: kind of portrait of like they can't be in a

821
00:34:15,954 --> 00:34:18,834
Speaker 1: really like they can be friends, but it gets complicated. Yeah,

822
00:34:18,874 --> 00:34:21,834
Speaker 1: and it's kind of interesting listening to the story of

823
00:34:21,874 --> 00:34:23,873
Speaker 1: like listening to Norma, we're so ahead of its time,

824
00:34:24,034 --> 00:34:26,354
Speaker 1: so ahead of its time, and it holds up so

825
00:34:26,594 --> 00:34:28,033
Speaker 1: well now when you watch it.

826
00:34:28,594 --> 00:34:32,154
Speaker 2: And I remember watching it in school, oh really, like

827
00:34:32,194 --> 00:34:34,234
Speaker 2: one of the teachers was like it was just one

828
00:34:34,274 --> 00:34:36,553
Speaker 2: of those days where the teacher obviously hadn't planned anything

829
00:34:36,634 --> 00:34:37,873
Speaker 2: for that because it was like one of the last

830
00:34:37,914 --> 00:34:41,114
Speaker 2: days of school before the Christmas holidays, and we were like,

831
00:34:41,194 --> 00:34:42,674
Speaker 2: we want to watch high school musical. We want to

832
00:34:42,674 --> 00:34:44,393
Speaker 2: watchgh schoolmusical. And she's like, we watched in our high

833
00:34:44,394 --> 00:34:47,194
Speaker 2: school musical. You're gonna watch my favorite movie ever. And

834
00:34:47,234 --> 00:34:48,433
Speaker 2: she put it on and we were like.

835
00:34:48,394 --> 00:34:49,914
Speaker 1: Well, I love this teacher.

836
00:34:49,994 --> 00:34:51,433
Speaker 2: This is sick and hot time. And she had to

837
00:34:51,434 --> 00:34:53,514
Speaker 2: like forward last forward to some of the sexy.

838
00:34:53,674 --> 00:34:56,354
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but there's not that many sexy far.

839
00:34:56,434 --> 00:34:58,474
Speaker 2: So that many, but like stuff where like even like

840
00:34:58,474 --> 00:34:59,714
Speaker 2: like a kiss, all the kids will.

841
00:34:59,594 --> 00:35:02,714
Speaker 1: Be like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah love. Can I just

842
00:35:02,754 --> 00:35:04,874
Speaker 1: say bring back movies like that in schools.

843
00:35:05,194 --> 00:35:08,034
Speaker 2: I actually watched The Breakfast Club in school because we

844
00:35:08,034 --> 00:35:09,834
Speaker 2: were all like bullying each other, one of our two

845
00:35:09,834 --> 00:35:12,154
Speaker 2: you just like, sit down, you're all gonna get along.

846
00:35:12,194 --> 00:35:14,314
Speaker 1: I think that especially now. I don't want to sound old,

847
00:35:14,354 --> 00:35:15,594
Speaker 1: but I do think now that a lot of kids

848
00:35:15,634 --> 00:35:18,314
Speaker 1: aren't watching a lot of these kind of classic movies.

849
00:35:18,434 --> 00:35:20,074
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that, but I do feel

850
00:35:20,074 --> 00:35:23,314
Speaker 1: like it does, like these movies shape like conversations, they

851
00:35:23,314 --> 00:35:26,634
Speaker 1: shape how we talk as a person. Yeah, it really does.

852
00:35:26,674 --> 00:35:28,393
Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know that should be not

853
00:35:28,474 --> 00:35:30,154
Speaker 1: if you're not growing up in a house where those

854
00:35:30,194 --> 00:35:32,913
Speaker 1: movies are being watched like I did to a certain extent,

855
00:35:32,914 --> 00:35:35,474
Speaker 1: because my mum let us watch a wild amount of things. Yeah,

856
00:35:35,474 --> 00:35:38,074
Speaker 1: and like my sister or my sister who's a lot

857
00:35:38,114 --> 00:35:40,154
Speaker 1: younger than me, always talks to the fact that because

858
00:35:40,354 --> 00:35:42,433
Speaker 1: my older sister and I watched all these movies, that

859
00:35:42,514 --> 00:35:44,913
Speaker 1: she had this incredible film and tvy knowledge when she

860
00:35:44,954 --> 00:35:46,873
Speaker 1: went to school. But also when I went to union,

861
00:35:46,834 --> 00:35:49,393
Speaker 1: I would just like walk down to the Blockbuster at

862
00:35:49,394 --> 00:35:51,154
Speaker 1: the end of the street and just rent every movie

863
00:35:51,234 --> 00:35:53,634
Speaker 1: I could see, just I could see everything because I

864
00:35:53,674 --> 00:35:55,794
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to miss a cultural moment,

865
00:35:55,874 --> 00:35:57,034
Speaker 1: and I feel like we need to come back to that.

866
00:35:57,194 --> 00:35:59,434
Speaker 1: But yeah, with Nora Efron said when she was writing

867
00:35:59,434 --> 00:36:01,393
Speaker 1: the script to and when Harry Matt Sally, she and

868
00:36:01,474 --> 00:36:03,514
Speaker 1: Rob would get together and talk and like bring in

869
00:36:03,554 --> 00:36:06,474
Speaker 1: their own experiences. And one of my favorite stories is

870
00:36:06,474 --> 00:36:09,674
Speaker 1: when she talked about the fact that women fake orgasms

871
00:36:10,034 --> 00:36:13,634
Speaker 1: and he was flawed. He could not believe it.

872
00:36:13,754 --> 00:36:15,794
Speaker 2: I got that scene, that scene because it's a badly

873
00:36:15,834 --> 00:36:17,274
Speaker 2: scene that we had to fast forward in school.

874
00:36:17,274 --> 00:36:19,274
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh my god, there's louch of good scenes.

875
00:36:19,274 --> 00:36:21,433
Speaker 1: So if anyone again, if anyone hasn't seen when Harry

876
00:36:21,474 --> 00:36:23,834
Speaker 1: met Sally and you need to go and see it.

877
00:36:23,874 --> 00:36:25,474
Speaker 1: Like it's it's like a scene that would.

878
00:36:25,314 --> 00:36:26,433
Speaker 2: Even be risky to do.

879
00:36:26,634 --> 00:36:28,714
Speaker 1: Now Yeah, well now it would be kind of I

880
00:36:28,754 --> 00:36:32,033
Speaker 1: guess done in like a maybe more overtly sexual way.

881
00:36:32,194 --> 00:36:34,674
Speaker 1: But so Nora Efron they were talking about dating and stuff,

882
00:36:34,674 --> 00:36:36,114
Speaker 1: and Nora Efron was like, oh, you know how women

883
00:36:36,114 --> 00:36:39,274
Speaker 1: fake orgasms? And Rob's like, no, that doesn't happen. She

884
00:36:39,354 --> 00:36:41,474
Speaker 1: was like, yeah it does. Again in paraphrasing nor Efron,

885
00:36:41,474 --> 00:36:42,554
Speaker 1: I'm sure she didn't say it like that.

886
00:36:42,674 --> 00:36:43,354
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

887
00:36:43,394 --> 00:36:46,034
Speaker 1: And so Rob then became so enamored with this idea.

888
00:36:46,194 --> 00:36:47,913
Speaker 1: Is this kind of cultural moment that had never been

889
00:36:47,954 --> 00:36:50,794
Speaker 1: talked about on screen, which had hadn't that They wrote

890
00:36:50,834 --> 00:36:53,953
Speaker 1: this really iconic scene when Sally and Harry are at

891
00:36:54,034 --> 00:36:57,114
Speaker 1: Kat's Deli having postami sandwiches and stuff is really iconic

892
00:36:57,154 --> 00:37:00,674
Speaker 1: New York location and she and she's like every woman doesn't.

893
00:37:00,714 --> 00:37:02,234
Speaker 1: He's like, they've never done it with me, and he's like,

894
00:37:02,274 --> 00:37:06,074
Speaker 1: I would know. And then Meg Ryan reenacts this incredible

895
00:37:06,274 --> 00:37:09,954
Speaker 1: orgasm scene and Rob wrote that so that people like

896
00:37:10,034 --> 00:37:12,474
Speaker 1: he wanted to bring this cultural conversation to the world,

897
00:37:12,794 --> 00:37:15,034
Speaker 1: and he talks about the fact that when they did,

898
00:37:15,114 --> 00:37:17,754
Speaker 1: like the early screenings for When Harry Matt Sally, that

899
00:37:17,834 --> 00:37:19,754
Speaker 1: they would be in the cinemas with like hundreds of

900
00:37:19,794 --> 00:37:22,514
Speaker 1: people watching this movie and when that scene came on,

901
00:37:22,594 --> 00:37:25,553
Speaker 1: all the women would be screaming because like, I can't

902
00:37:25,554 --> 00:37:28,114
Speaker 1: believe we do this, but no one's talking about it.

903
00:37:28,154 --> 00:37:29,594
Speaker 1: And He's like, it's the only time I've seen a

904
00:37:29,594 --> 00:37:32,794
Speaker 1: cinema full of men go dead silent because they were

905
00:37:32,834 --> 00:37:36,794
Speaker 1: all realizing for the first time via this movie that

906
00:37:36,834 --> 00:37:39,794
Speaker 1: it would happen. And that iconic moment where like she

907
00:37:39,834 --> 00:37:42,994
Speaker 1: finishes orgasming like the fake orgasm in Meg Ryan and

908
00:37:43,034 --> 00:37:45,114
Speaker 1: then she just picks up her sandwiches and starts eating,

909
00:37:45,634 --> 00:37:47,514
Speaker 1: and then it flicks to another woman in the deli

910
00:37:47,514 --> 00:37:49,554
Speaker 1: who goes, I'll have what she's having. Do you know

911
00:37:49,554 --> 00:37:50,074
Speaker 1: who that is?

912
00:37:51,034 --> 00:37:52,954
Speaker 2: The woman in the deli, The woman.

913
00:37:52,714 --> 00:37:54,473
Speaker 1: The deli who says the iconic client, I'll have what

914
00:37:54,514 --> 00:37:55,033
Speaker 1: she's having.

915
00:37:55,074 --> 00:37:55,634
Speaker 2: Is it Laura?

916
00:37:56,114 --> 00:37:59,993
Speaker 1: No? No, it's Rob Ryaner's mother, a Stelle Ryner, who

917
00:38:00,034 --> 00:38:02,674
Speaker 1: is a really amazing comedic actress. So he was like,

918
00:38:02,794 --> 00:38:03,954
Speaker 1: not only am I gonna like.

919
00:38:03,954 --> 00:38:05,194
Speaker 2: Wait, I need us see her face?

920
00:38:05,354 --> 00:38:07,874
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at her face. She looks just like him.

921
00:38:08,114 --> 00:38:09,714
Speaker 1: So Rob Riner was like, not only am I going

922
00:38:09,754 --> 00:38:12,513
Speaker 1: to bring this incredibly important cultural conversation to the world,

923
00:38:12,514 --> 00:38:14,714
Speaker 1: but I'm going to cast my mother, who's an amazing

924
00:38:14,714 --> 00:38:18,393
Speaker 1: comedic actress, to have like the final line. Yeah, isn't

925
00:38:18,434 --> 00:38:23,074
Speaker 1: that cool? The other thing pickup? The other thing I

926
00:38:23,114 --> 00:38:26,194
Speaker 1: love so much about when Harry Matt Sally is and

927
00:38:26,234 --> 00:38:28,594
Speaker 1: this has been a contentious thing for many years, is

928
00:38:28,634 --> 00:38:31,834
Speaker 1: that a lot of people disagree with the ending, especially

929
00:38:31,874 --> 00:38:34,393
Speaker 1: knowing it wasn't supposed to be the ending. So I'm

930
00:38:34,434 --> 00:38:36,474
Speaker 1: really lightly spoiling in here. You guys should watch it.

931
00:38:36,474 --> 00:38:38,314
Speaker 1: We haven't even got to like the road trip of

932
00:38:38,314 --> 00:38:40,634
Speaker 1: how they like the road trip at the beginning. We

933
00:38:40,674 --> 00:38:42,634
Speaker 1: haven't got to carry fishes part in it. Like, there's

934
00:38:42,714 --> 00:38:44,834
Speaker 1: so much that we can't touch on, So go watch

935
00:38:44,874 --> 00:38:48,274
Speaker 1: the movie one hundred percent. But they do end up

936
00:38:48,274 --> 00:38:51,114
Speaker 1: together in it, and there's that incredible scene where Billy

937
00:38:51,154 --> 00:38:54,474
Speaker 1: Crystal's character runs into the New's Eve party and she

938
00:38:54,634 --> 00:38:56,393
Speaker 1: was like, you don't love me, you just want you

939
00:38:56,514 --> 00:39:00,234
Speaker 1: just lonely, which fair fair because these do have been

940
00:39:00,394 --> 00:39:02,834
Speaker 1: in this loop for over a decade. And he was

941
00:39:02,914 --> 00:39:05,234
Speaker 1: and he says that iconic line of like, I love

942
00:39:05,354 --> 00:39:07,234
Speaker 1: how you get cold even when it's hot outside. I

943
00:39:07,234 --> 00:39:09,154
Speaker 1: love how it takes you an hour to order a sandwich.

944
00:39:09,234 --> 00:39:10,913
Speaker 1: I love how you get that little crinkle in the

945
00:39:10,914 --> 00:39:13,354
Speaker 1: middle of your forehead when you're angry at me. And

946
00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:15,154
Speaker 1: most of all, I love how you like the person

947
00:39:15,194 --> 00:39:18,194
Speaker 1: I think about every day. And then when you decide,

948
00:39:18,274 --> 00:39:19,714
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm sorry to rush over here like this

949
00:39:19,754 --> 00:39:21,873
Speaker 1: and be so dramatic, but when you decide that you

950
00:39:21,914 --> 00:39:23,514
Speaker 1: want to spend the rest of your life with someone,

951
00:39:23,554 --> 00:39:25,634
Speaker 1: you want the rest of your life to start right now.

952
00:39:25,874 --> 00:39:29,114
Speaker 1: And then they kiss. But so that wasn't meant to happen.

953
00:39:29,194 --> 00:39:31,154
Speaker 1: The original ending was that they were supposed to be

954
00:39:31,234 --> 00:39:34,074
Speaker 1: this back and forth situation changed so much, I know,

955
00:39:34,594 --> 00:39:36,953
Speaker 1: Oh my god, just also bring back rom coms, Bring

956
00:39:37,074 --> 00:39:39,594
Speaker 1: back being back rom coms Like this is one of

957
00:39:39,594 --> 00:39:42,114
Speaker 1: the greatest filmmakers of our time, and he is best

958
00:39:42,154 --> 00:39:44,314
Speaker 1: known for making a rom com for all you snooty

959
00:39:44,354 --> 00:39:46,953
Speaker 1: men out there who think it's beneath you. Oh my god,

960
00:39:46,954 --> 00:39:49,834
Speaker 1: I love what's this? What's his name? From the bear?

961
00:39:50,154 --> 00:39:53,474
Speaker 1: Jeremy The recent Actors on Actors with Kate Hudson and

962
00:39:53,554 --> 00:39:56,354
Speaker 1: Jeremy Allen white, Oh I haven't. There's this really good

963
00:39:56,394 --> 00:39:58,274
Speaker 1: scene in it where Kate Hudson goes, would you ever

964
00:39:58,314 --> 00:40:00,154
Speaker 1: do a rom com? He's like, I'd like to. They

965
00:40:00,194 --> 00:40:02,674
Speaker 1: look fun And Kate Hudson you just see her face

966
00:40:02,794 --> 00:40:05,114
Speaker 1: like change and she's like, they're a lot harder than

967
00:40:05,154 --> 00:40:07,114
Speaker 1: you think. I was like, girl, isn't that the true?

968
00:40:07,434 --> 00:40:09,953
Speaker 1: It's so true, so hard to make a good one.

969
00:40:09,994 --> 00:40:12,514
Speaker 1: So the whole idea of this story that Nora and

970
00:40:12,634 --> 00:40:14,954
Speaker 1: Rob worked out together is that they would be in

971
00:40:14,954 --> 00:40:17,274
Speaker 1: this loop of like can they be friends, can they

972
00:40:17,274 --> 00:40:19,114
Speaker 1: be lovers? All this sort of stuff, and it would

973
00:40:19,234 --> 00:40:21,594
Speaker 1: end with them like being apart for like over a decade,

974
00:40:21,634 --> 00:40:23,474
Speaker 1: and they would kind of meet up and have this

975
00:40:23,554 --> 00:40:25,674
Speaker 1: quick moment and the movie would end with them walking

976
00:40:25,674 --> 00:40:29,354
Speaker 1: away from each other. But then, so Rob had been

977
00:40:29,554 --> 00:40:32,954
Speaker 1: married to Penny Marshall, who's also an incredible actress and filmmaker,

978
00:40:33,194 --> 00:40:35,074
Speaker 1: and they had been divorced, and he'd been single for

979
00:40:35,114 --> 00:40:38,634
Speaker 1: something like close to ten years, and Nora Efron always

980
00:40:38,634 --> 00:40:41,234
Speaker 1: said that he was like the ultimate single guy, and

981
00:40:41,274 --> 00:40:43,154
Speaker 1: that's why she was kind of writing Harry to be

982
00:40:43,314 --> 00:40:45,834
Speaker 1: like him. And then so that's how they and when

983
00:40:45,834 --> 00:40:47,274
Speaker 1: they were making the movie. They weren't supposed to end

984
00:40:47,354 --> 00:40:51,114
Speaker 1: up together, but then Rob met Michelle, who is his

985
00:40:51,394 --> 00:40:53,194
Speaker 1: wife and the mother always kids, and they were together

986
00:40:53,234 --> 00:40:55,873
Speaker 1: for decades and for all accounts, wildly happy and in love.

987
00:40:56,474 --> 00:40:59,434
Speaker 1: And he had this moment where he just looked across

988
00:40:59,474 --> 00:41:02,114
Speaker 1: a room on set and he saw her and fell

989
00:41:02,154 --> 00:41:05,634
Speaker 1: madly in love with her in that second. So then

990
00:41:05,674 --> 00:41:08,074
Speaker 1: he went and they got marri Read seven months later,

991
00:41:08,194 --> 00:41:09,674
Speaker 1: and that was the reason why they changed the end

992
00:41:09,834 --> 00:41:11,634
Speaker 1: changed the ending because he went to now and he's like,

993
00:41:12,434 --> 00:41:15,114
Speaker 1: I can't we can't end this movie with not being together.

994
00:41:15,314 --> 00:41:15,953
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not.

995
00:41:16,114 --> 00:41:19,194
Speaker 2: And also that's like illegal in rom comms. Yeah, they

996
00:41:19,234 --> 00:41:22,393
Speaker 2: have to be together like otherwise then that's not wrong, I.

997
00:41:22,354 --> 00:41:24,194
Speaker 1: Know, but they were trying to change the wrong common genre.

998
00:41:24,274 --> 00:41:25,754
Speaker 1: But they can't for it even was. But then he

999
00:41:26,034 --> 00:41:28,034
Speaker 1: went on and he's like, I can't write that that

1000
00:41:28,074 --> 00:41:30,473
Speaker 1: doesn't happen when I just experienced it. He's like, I

1001
00:41:30,554 --> 00:41:33,274
Speaker 1: just experienced love at first sight, and now that I

1002
00:41:33,394 --> 00:41:35,274
Speaker 1: know that's real and I'm in it and I'm so

1003
00:41:35,394 --> 00:41:37,754
Speaker 1: in love, I want that to be the ending of

1004
00:41:37,794 --> 00:41:41,034
Speaker 1: the movie because I believe that it happens. And so

1005
00:41:41,074 --> 00:41:42,553
Speaker 1: then they changed the movie.

1006
00:41:42,594 --> 00:41:45,594
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have liked it if they stayed friends because

1007
00:41:45,634 --> 00:41:48,634
Speaker 2: also sorry to talk about the logistics of Wehn Harry

1008
00:41:48,674 --> 00:41:52,354
Speaker 2: met Sally. Yeah, but I also think, regardless of the ending,

1009
00:41:52,474 --> 00:41:55,714
Speaker 2: it shows, especially men, that there are people out there

1010
00:41:55,754 --> 00:41:59,114
Speaker 2: who just love their friends and you're not loving them

1011
00:41:59,154 --> 00:42:01,354
Speaker 2: because you're thinking it's going to lead to something else.

1012
00:42:01,394 --> 00:42:03,714
Speaker 2: You're just loving your friends. And like they still would

1013
00:42:03,714 --> 00:42:06,074
Speaker 2: have been friends even if she rejected him. Yeah, And

1014
00:42:06,114 --> 00:42:07,994
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's the that's a real story.

1015
00:42:08,074 --> 00:42:10,594
Speaker 1: That's the real story. Oh so good. I mean, I

1016
00:42:10,634 --> 00:42:12,834
Speaker 1: wish we could talk about every Robina film because.

1017
00:42:12,594 --> 00:42:14,274
Speaker 2: They's but now I'm so freaking ahead.

1018
00:42:14,474 --> 00:42:16,514
Speaker 1: Oh I know. But also what this is like in

1019
00:42:16,554 --> 00:42:18,473
Speaker 1: one I know, it's been like a tragic I saw

1020
00:42:18,514 --> 00:42:21,393
Speaker 1: someone say that one of the saddest things about his

1021
00:42:21,434 --> 00:42:24,194
Speaker 1: death is like, it's so awful when a good story

1022
00:42:24,234 --> 00:42:26,473
Speaker 1: has a bad ending, and he had such a good

1023
00:42:26,474 --> 00:42:28,073
Speaker 1: story and such a horrific ending.

1024
00:42:28,114 --> 00:42:31,114
Speaker 2: But and even just the stuff he did, like in activism, yes,

1025
00:42:31,354 --> 00:42:34,154
Speaker 2: with legalizing gay marriage, and the stuff he did, like

1026
00:42:34,154 --> 00:42:36,394
Speaker 2: he like would speak about texting the rich like twenty

1027
00:42:36,474 --> 00:42:38,674
Speaker 2: years before the rest of us were speaking about it,

1028
00:42:39,034 --> 00:42:42,074
Speaker 2: and he was so invested in like childhood development and

1029
00:42:42,114 --> 00:42:44,354
Speaker 2: things like that. Like he did so much good in

1030
00:42:44,394 --> 00:42:47,114
Speaker 2: the world besides his daytime job.

1031
00:42:47,434 --> 00:42:50,154
Speaker 1: Yes he really, Yeah, he really went to that very

1032
00:42:50,154 --> 00:42:52,874
Speaker 1: early for same sex marriage reform and had like helped

1033
00:42:52,874 --> 00:42:54,914
Speaker 1: have laws overturned and would go and speak at rallies

1034
00:42:54,914 --> 00:42:57,033
Speaker 1: and would like get very big on education, very big

1035
00:42:57,074 --> 00:42:59,594
Speaker 1: on just very big on just like equalizing the world

1036
00:42:59,634 --> 00:43:02,714
Speaker 1: of which he talking about coming in as like you know,

1037
00:43:02,754 --> 00:43:05,274
Speaker 1: a white American man coming into a showbized family and

1038
00:43:05,314 --> 00:43:07,514
Speaker 1: then like living in like his You know, if you

1039
00:43:07,514 --> 00:43:09,154
Speaker 1: look at the people who he was friends with, like

1040
00:43:09,234 --> 00:43:11,234
Speaker 1: the rich of the rich of the rich, and so

1041
00:43:11,394 --> 00:43:14,994
Speaker 1: kind of like making especially like the last few decades

1042
00:43:15,034 --> 00:43:18,473
Speaker 1: of his life, really making that his focus, I think

1043
00:43:18,594 --> 00:43:20,834
Speaker 1: is something so important and I feel like you see

1044
00:43:20,834 --> 00:43:23,314
Speaker 1: that threaten his movies. Yeah, again, like you can be

1045
00:43:23,354 --> 00:43:25,393
Speaker 1: a good person and be a good filmmaker. The two

1046
00:43:25,434 --> 00:43:28,114
Speaker 1: aren't mutually exclusive. But I would just say if anyone

1047
00:43:28,234 --> 00:43:30,034
Speaker 1: like hasn't watched a lot of these movies, like, I

1048
00:43:30,074 --> 00:43:31,634
Speaker 1: think that's the kind of that's why I wanted to

1049
00:43:31,634 --> 00:43:33,634
Speaker 1: talk about the movies and not the tragedy, because I

1050
00:43:33,634 --> 00:43:36,714
Speaker 1: think that that it's important that that's his legacy, not

1051
00:43:36,874 --> 00:43:39,553
Speaker 1: this terrible thing that's happened. So if you haven't watched

1052
00:43:39,554 --> 00:43:41,954
Speaker 1: any of these movies, watches his spinal tap, you'll be

1053
00:43:41,994 --> 00:43:44,954
Speaker 1: on the floor laughing. Watch stand by Me, you'll be sobbing.

1054
00:43:45,474 --> 00:43:48,954
Speaker 1: Watch The Princess Bride to Emily. It's you have to

1055
00:43:48,994 --> 00:43:52,274
Speaker 1: watch it as the whimsical movie that it is. It's

1056
00:43:52,274 --> 00:43:53,714
Speaker 1: okay if you don't want that movie, because you love

1057
00:43:53,714 --> 00:43:56,994
Speaker 1: When Harry met Sally. A Few Good Men again, incredible.

1058
00:43:56,714 --> 00:43:57,514
Speaker 2: Such a good movie.

1059
00:43:57,554 --> 00:43:59,874
Speaker 1: The American President. You might like The American President.

1060
00:43:59,994 --> 00:44:01,674
Speaker 2: I love it when the American presidents are here.

1061
00:44:01,874 --> 00:44:05,194
Speaker 1: Yeah, a rom common about an American president, like right up,

1062
00:44:05,234 --> 00:44:08,114
Speaker 1: Like I love and Michael Douglas and Benny have the

1063
00:44:08,114 --> 00:44:10,714
Speaker 1: best chemistry, okay, especially when he's like sneaking her into

1064
00:44:10,754 --> 00:44:11,274
Speaker 1: the White House.

1065
00:44:11,874 --> 00:44:13,874
Speaker 2: Okay, I can't wait, I can't wait. But also misery.

1066
00:44:13,874 --> 00:44:15,634
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about misery when have time. But also

1067
00:44:15,674 --> 00:44:19,154
Speaker 1: Stephen King, Like Steve, he adapted some Stephen King works.

1068
00:44:19,234 --> 00:44:21,914
Speaker 1: Misery was one of them. And Stephen King notoriously doesn't

1069
00:44:21,954 --> 00:44:24,474
Speaker 1: love a lot of his adaptions of his work, but

1070
00:44:24,674 --> 00:44:26,834
Speaker 1: he loved everything Rob Brier did. He said he really

1071
00:44:26,874 --> 00:44:29,754
Speaker 1: got it. Kathy Bates talked about that being the movie

1072
00:44:29,754 --> 00:44:32,194
Speaker 1: that like defined her career and Rob Brianer doing that.

1073
00:44:32,354 --> 00:44:35,154
Speaker 1: Kathy Bates won an Oscar for that. Yeah, she won

1074
00:44:35,194 --> 00:44:38,114
Speaker 1: Best Actress for Misery, directed by Rob Briiner, who was

1075
00:44:38,154 --> 00:44:40,513
Speaker 1: the one who was like, you're a star. We're gonna

1076
00:44:40,514 --> 00:44:43,034
Speaker 1: make this happen. So I would just say, like go on,

1077
00:44:43,194 --> 00:44:45,154
Speaker 1: watch things seem bleak, I know, but just like go

1078
00:44:45,194 --> 00:44:47,474
Speaker 1: and watch a whole bunch of Rob Brianer movie, isn't it.

1079
00:44:47,554 --> 00:44:48,354
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're so good?

1080
00:44:48,394 --> 00:44:53,194
Speaker 1: Or watching You Go so Many Wall Street all important

1081
00:44:53,194 --> 00:44:54,114
Speaker 1: parts of his legacy.

1082
00:44:55,074 --> 00:44:57,714
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this bill today.

1083
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Speaker 2: If you enjoyed this episode, the best way you can

1084
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1085
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Speaker 2: and review wherever you listen to us on your podcast app.

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Speaker 2: It is the single best way to help us, and

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Speaker 2: tune into weekend watch dropping at six am tomorrow for

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Speaker 2: all your viewing recommendations, and then again at three pm

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Speaker 2: for a very special end of year round up. We

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Speaker 2: will see you then. The spill of produced by Bontius

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Speaker 2: Warne with some production by Scott Stronik.

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Speaker 1: Bye Bye, Land, Mamma. Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of

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Speaker 1: the land. We have recorded this podcast on the Gadigal

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Speaker 1: people of the Oronation. We pay our respects to their

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Speaker 1: elders past and present, and extend that respect to all

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