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Speaker 3: On Hello out louders. It is Jesse here and Casey

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Speaker 3: missed it. We are days away from finding out who

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Speaker 3: will be the next president of the United States, and

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Speaker 3: one of those candidates was incredibly overdue to spend a

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Speaker 3: But my twin sister Claire, and I decided a few

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Speaker 3: weeks ago it was time. We were ready to do

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Speaker 3: a canceled episode focusing on Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: It is one of our.

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Speaker 3: Most popular episodes ever, which is why we thought we

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Speaker 3: would give you a little treat today and share it

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Speaker 2: And if you loved it and.

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Speaker 3: You want more, well you know we couldn't fit all

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Speaker 3: of it into one episode, so it's actually part one

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Speaker 3: in the show notes. Enjoy if that's the right term.

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Speaker 3: Just listen, Hello and welcome to cancel the podcast that

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Speaker 3: looks at silly celebrity crimes and assigence charges and sentences

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Speaker 3: to them.

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Speaker 2: So we can all move on with our lives.

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Speaker 3: I'm Chles Stephens and I am Jesse Stevens, and today

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Speaker 3: is part one of two episodes we're doing about reality

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Speaker 3: stuff businessman, former president and current presidential candidate Donald John Trump.

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Speaker 3: We have wanted to do this series for a little while.

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Speaker 3: And there was a moment where we went, the time

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Speaker 3: then Trump said, hold my magahet, I have alterned. I

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Speaker 4: We're dying, we're daying, we need money. Thank you, darling.

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Speaker 4: But mister Trump, you're not a nice person. That's true.

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Speaker 4: But actually I am.

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Speaker 2: I think I am a nice person.

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Speaker 3: Now, if you genuinely tried to do a canceled episode

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Speaker 2: And that's the point.

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Speaker 3: This man is so bizarre and silly and ridiculous that

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Speaker 3: why should Donald Trump not be president?

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Speaker 2: You're like, I don't know where to start.

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Speaker 3: You're like, uh uh, that's part of his genius.

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Speaker 2: It's like, uh, make America great again. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very hard to like, I know bad because

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Speaker 3: I kind of vaguely. Then go the Apprentice, which is

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Speaker 3: his greatest crime, but it's also not not a crime.

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Speaker 2: No, and it's like.

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Speaker 3: He sexually assaulted everyone that was ten lifetimes ago. He

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Speaker 3: a jury in New York found Trump guilty. I'm thirty

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Speaker 3: four fell in accounts of falsifying business records related to

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Speaker 3: This made him the first former US president to be

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Speaker 3: People have to keep reminding everyone of it. It's like

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Speaker 2: That's actually true. He didn't attend Biden's inauguration. He incided

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Speaker 4: Yes, the people of January sixth were treated very unfairly.

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Speaker 3: In civil proceedings, he's been found liable for sexual abuse

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Speaker 3: It's like, what are you doing after court today? I'm

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Speaker 3: Before his career in politics, he and his businesses had

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Speaker 3: Yes, So he and his businesses have been plaintiffs or

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Speaker 3: business bankruptcies. He continues to say, I have never been bankrupt.

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Speaker 3: But we are not here to talk about actual crimes. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: No, we're here to talk about social crimes, cultural crimes,

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Speaker 3: Even still, you could look at those crimes forever. So

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Speaker 3: us Kenny good, judge, Let us begin. Donald John Trump

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Speaker 3: is seventy eight years old. He was elected the forty

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Speaker 3: But I guess him getting out of military service is

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Castle courtroom, Trump, You are in good company.

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Speaker 3: Trump has been married three times and has five children.

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Speaker 3: is that, according to journalist Jonathan Greenberg, donald Trump called

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump has written many, many books.

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Speaker 3: Is that fraud and he instructed a supervisor, if necessary,

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Speaker 3: Now, pretty much that entire first season was scripted, and

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Speaker 3: Well, Trump years later then tried to trademark You're fired,

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Speaker 3: If you will. Kylie tried to trade mark Kylie, this

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Speaker 3: Apparently they're behind. If anyone needs to trademark things. It's

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Speaker 3: I know. We probably should have trademarks canceled. We could

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Speaker 3: Another big part of Trump's entertainment career was his ownership

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Speaker 3: also included the Miss USA and Miss Teen USA pageants.

437
00:23:23,367 --> 00:23:27,207
Speaker 3: When he first bought it, he publicly ridiculed a nineteen

438
00:23:27,327 --> 00:23:30,847
Speaker 3: year old Miss Universe winner for putting on five gilligrams

439
00:23:31,567 --> 00:23:32,167
Speaker 3: on camera.

440
00:23:32,287 --> 00:23:34,767
Speaker 6: He said, Alicia is like me and like a lot

441
00:23:34,807 --> 00:23:35,487
Speaker 6: of other people.

442
00:23:36,087 --> 00:23:36,807
Speaker 1: I love to eat.

443
00:23:36,887 --> 00:23:38,607
Speaker 6: We all love to eat, not all of us, some

444
00:23:38,647 --> 00:23:40,047
Speaker 6: of you are lucky, but we eat.

445
00:23:40,447 --> 00:23:41,207
Speaker 3: We like to eat.

446
00:23:41,727 --> 00:23:42,367
Speaker 4: And she had.

447
00:23:42,287 --> 00:23:44,887
Speaker 6: Tremendous pressure put on her with the win and everything else,

448
00:23:44,927 --> 00:23:48,247
Speaker 6: plus she was going from country to country, all foreign places,

449
00:23:48,607 --> 00:23:50,967
Speaker 6: and there was a huge amount of pressure. And some

450
00:23:51,007 --> 00:23:53,847
Speaker 6: people when they have pressure don't eat, and some people

451
00:23:53,847 --> 00:23:57,287
Speaker 6: when they have pressure eat too much, like me, but

452
00:23:57,687 --> 00:23:58,447
Speaker 6: like Alicia.

453
00:23:58,527 --> 00:24:01,247
Speaker 3: When he got called out for that, that got resurfaced

454
00:24:01,287 --> 00:24:02,447
Speaker 3: during his twenties, he's.

455
00:24:02,327 --> 00:24:05,287
Speaker 2: Trying to build rapport with Alisha. Yeah, he's like, we're

456
00:24:05,327 --> 00:24:07,447
Speaker 2: the same. No, We're not the same.

457
00:24:08,127 --> 00:24:10,047
Speaker 3: When he got called out for that during his twenty

458
00:24:10,087 --> 00:24:13,927
Speaker 3: sixteen presidential campaign, he said she had gained a massive

459
00:24:13,967 --> 00:24:16,527
Speaker 3: amount of weight. It was a real problem. Did you

460
00:24:16,527 --> 00:24:19,207
Speaker 3: say five pounds kilos? Five five kilos? Right?

461
00:24:19,327 --> 00:24:19,927
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

462
00:24:20,007 --> 00:24:22,647
Speaker 3: He also falsely tweeted that she was involved in a

463
00:24:22,687 --> 00:24:26,087
Speaker 3: sex day. Oh okay, that wasn't a thing. In twenty thirteen,

464
00:24:26,287 --> 00:24:29,647
Speaker 3: he brought the competition to Russia. He tweeted, do you

465
00:24:29,727 --> 00:24:33,007
Speaker 3: think Putin will be going to the Miss Universe pageant?

466
00:24:33,167 --> 00:24:37,887
Speaker 3: If so, will he become my new best friend. During

467
00:24:37,927 --> 00:24:42,407
Speaker 3: his political career, he referenced this event in Russia. He

468
00:24:42,527 --> 00:24:44,527
Speaker 3: told Fox News, I know Russia.

469
00:24:44,567 --> 00:24:44,847
Speaker 2: Well.

470
00:24:45,247 --> 00:24:48,167
Speaker 3: I had a major event in Russia a few years ago,

471
00:24:48,447 --> 00:24:50,327
Speaker 3: which was a big, big, incredible event.

472
00:24:50,687 --> 00:24:52,007
Speaker 2: Sir. It was a Miss Universe.

473
00:24:52,087 --> 00:24:55,327
Speaker 3: Do you think it's lucrative because I'm thinking about what

474
00:24:55,367 --> 00:24:57,567
Speaker 3: I would spend my money on if I was a billionaire,

475
00:24:58,007 --> 00:25:00,567
Speaker 3: and in terms of what I would invest in, what

476
00:25:00,687 --> 00:25:03,767
Speaker 3: I would buy, Miss Universe seems like a bit of

477
00:25:03,807 --> 00:25:04,487
Speaker 3: a sinking shit.

478
00:25:04,647 --> 00:25:07,247
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was okay, it was like over the

479
00:25:07,247 --> 00:25:09,207
Speaker 2: time he had it, it lost its value.

480
00:25:09,527 --> 00:25:12,087
Speaker 3: I also think that it's quite a time investment because

481
00:25:12,087 --> 00:25:14,007
Speaker 3: it takes a lot of Like he was often just

482
00:25:14,167 --> 00:25:19,087
Speaker 3: there with his arms around women, but again he was free. Yeah,

483
00:25:19,247 --> 00:25:22,567
Speaker 3: I don't get how it like grows in value. No,

484
00:25:22,647 --> 00:25:25,247
Speaker 3: what do they call it when something is scalable?

485
00:25:25,447 --> 00:25:27,727
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. So you have a scalable product.

486
00:25:27,807 --> 00:25:29,647
Speaker 3: Well, I guess you could just make more and more pageants.

487
00:25:29,647 --> 00:25:32,167
Speaker 3: But I think what he wasn't counting on was that

488
00:25:32,287 --> 00:25:34,967
Speaker 3: women are busy. So I think he was like, we

489
00:25:35,127 --> 00:25:36,927
Speaker 3: just need all women to.

490
00:25:36,847 --> 00:25:37,287
Speaker 2: Be in pad.

491
00:25:37,607 --> 00:25:39,327
Speaker 3: But this is something I've often said about people who

492
00:25:39,327 --> 00:25:42,647
Speaker 3: don't have a lot on. They can't comprehend that other

493
00:25:42,647 --> 00:25:44,687
Speaker 3: people have a full week. They're the type of people

494
00:25:45,127 --> 00:25:47,607
Speaker 3: who I have a friend, love him, but he will

495
00:25:47,607 --> 00:25:49,287
Speaker 3: call me at midday on a cheese Yeah, it doesn't

496
00:25:49,327 --> 00:25:49,647
Speaker 3: a lot on.

497
00:25:50,207 --> 00:25:50,847
Speaker 2: That's trump.

498
00:25:51,127 --> 00:25:53,687
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he's like, well, why wouldn't women be in

499
00:25:53,727 --> 00:25:58,327
Speaker 3: Miss Universe pageants? Well, you know they're working full time now, yeah,

500
00:25:58,807 --> 00:26:02,327
Speaker 3: or they've got families, they've got things on during the week,

501
00:26:02,447 --> 00:26:05,287
Speaker 3: what type of things? Okay, Trump, this is the problem.

502
00:26:05,327 --> 00:26:07,327
Speaker 3: This is why you need a day drum. Yeah, well

503
00:26:07,367 --> 00:26:11,047
Speaker 3: I'm doing Apprentice. Well that only shot for two months,

504
00:26:11,367 --> 00:26:14,127
Speaker 3: and now you've got a big ten month free calendar again.

505
00:26:14,807 --> 00:26:17,887
Speaker 3: And that's why you are organizing a holiday to Russia.

506
00:26:17,967 --> 00:26:20,927
Speaker 3: He was asked whether he met with Putin when he

507
00:26:21,007 --> 00:26:23,807
Speaker 3: was in Russia, and he just said, I got to

508
00:26:23,847 --> 00:26:25,847
Speaker 3: meet a lot of people, and he said, and you

509
00:26:25,887 --> 00:26:28,887
Speaker 3: know what, they want to be friendly with the United States.

510
00:26:29,047 --> 00:26:31,647
Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be nice if we actually got along with somebody.

511
00:26:31,807 --> 00:26:34,847
Speaker 3: And to that, I say, sir, the Gold War. You

512
00:26:34,967 --> 00:26:36,527
Speaker 3: need to be more aware of history.

513
00:26:36,727 --> 00:26:36,967
Speaker 2: Yeah.

514
00:26:37,047 --> 00:26:40,967
Speaker 3: I don't think he has much context for that. Like,

515
00:26:41,047 --> 00:26:43,167
Speaker 3: I don't think he understood. He was like, what's everyone's

516
00:26:43,167 --> 00:26:43,807
Speaker 3: problem with Russia?

517
00:26:43,807 --> 00:26:44,127
Speaker 2: Anyway?

518
00:26:44,167 --> 00:26:46,967
Speaker 3: And look, I don't have a problem with like Russians. No,

519
00:26:47,407 --> 00:26:50,367
Speaker 3: but I think that probably in the last say, two

520
00:26:50,407 --> 00:26:54,087
Speaker 3: three years, Russia has done some questionable things, such as

521
00:26:54,087 --> 00:26:57,647
Speaker 3: the invasion of Ukraine, and someone ought to tell Trump

522
00:26:57,687 --> 00:27:00,607
Speaker 3: yes or else he's going to stage another Miss Universe

523
00:27:00,647 --> 00:27:03,447
Speaker 3: there with his friend Putin. I think he thinks Putin

524
00:27:03,567 --> 00:27:06,927
Speaker 3: is his first name. I agree. And there has been

525
00:27:06,967 --> 00:27:10,647
Speaker 3: tensions between the US and Russia for decades now. He's

526
00:27:10,727 --> 00:27:16,807
Speaker 3: quite profound, Yeah, quite profound. Speaking of media, During a

527
00:27:17,327 --> 00:27:20,367
Speaker 3: March two thousand and six appearance on the View with

528
00:27:20,487 --> 00:27:24,607
Speaker 3: his daughter Ivanka, Donald Trump was asked how he would

529
00:27:24,687 --> 00:27:29,407
Speaker 3: react if Playboy would ever feature Ivanka's picture on its cover.

530
00:27:29,567 --> 00:27:33,727
Speaker 3: Weird question, and he said, question, I don't think she'd

531
00:27:33,727 --> 00:27:35,007
Speaker 3: do that inside the magazine.

532
00:27:35,087 --> 00:27:39,047
Speaker 4: Although figure I've said that if Evanka weren't my daughter,

533
00:27:39,087 --> 00:27:40,167
Speaker 4: perhaps I'd be dating her.

534
00:27:41,687 --> 00:27:47,647
Speaker 2: It's so weird.

535
00:27:50,087 --> 00:27:54,927
Speaker 3: May that's a really odd thing to say. I think

536
00:27:55,447 --> 00:27:58,687
Speaker 3: sometimes he does say something really weird. I don't know

537
00:27:58,727 --> 00:28:02,927
Speaker 3: if he's aware that it's weird after it comes out

538
00:28:02,967 --> 00:28:04,687
Speaker 3: of his mouth, Like, do you think that as he

539
00:28:04,727 --> 00:28:06,607
Speaker 3: said it, he went no, I think I don't think

540
00:28:06,607 --> 00:28:10,287
Speaker 3: I nailed that. I don't think that's it. It came

541
00:28:10,327 --> 00:28:25,447
Speaker 3: out weird. Trump University. Trump University was a real estate

542
00:28:25,487 --> 00:28:28,247
Speaker 3: training program that ran from two thousand and five to

543
00:28:28,247 --> 00:28:30,887
Speaker 3: twenty ten. Was it a pyramid scheme? Because that sounds

544
00:28:30,887 --> 00:28:32,887
Speaker 3: like a pyramids game. Is that just like an MLM

545
00:28:32,927 --> 00:28:36,127
Speaker 3: pyramids game situation? How dare you call it a pyramid schame?

546
00:28:36,167 --> 00:28:39,287
Speaker 3: It it sounds pyramidy. It's a bait and switch scheme. Oh,

547
00:28:39,367 --> 00:28:42,287
Speaker 3: it's different. It is more clearly fraudulent. It is also

548
00:28:42,607 --> 00:28:46,367
Speaker 3: fraudulent and incredibly obvious leading. It didn't do what it

549
00:28:46,407 --> 00:28:48,247
Speaker 3: said it was going to do. Okay, all right, So

550
00:28:48,647 --> 00:28:52,487
Speaker 3: it was operated by the Trump Organization, and in twenty eleven,

551
00:28:52,727 --> 00:28:58,287
Speaker 3: after multiple investigations, it stopped its operations. Now, it was

552
00:28:58,407 --> 00:29:01,247
Speaker 3: founded in two thousand and four by Donald Trump, and

553
00:29:01,327 --> 00:29:05,247
Speaker 3: it offered courses in real estate, asset management, entrepreneurship, and

554
00:29:05,287 --> 00:29:10,047
Speaker 3: wealth creation. Number one problem with Trump University was not

555
00:29:10,287 --> 00:29:14,807
Speaker 3: a university by any definition of the word universe. Could

556
00:29:14,807 --> 00:29:17,647
Speaker 3: you get like a diploma or a degree or not

557
00:29:18,207 --> 00:29:22,367
Speaker 3: any It was not an accredited university or college. It

558
00:29:22,447 --> 00:29:28,247
Speaker 3: conducted three and five day seminars often called retreats, and

559
00:29:28,407 --> 00:29:32,687
Speaker 3: it used high pressure tactics to sell them to its customers.

560
00:29:32,967 --> 00:29:36,527
Speaker 3: Those just a business. Yes, it didn't offer college credit.

561
00:29:36,807 --> 00:29:41,607
Speaker 3: It didn't grant degrees or grade its students. It has

562
00:29:41,687 --> 00:29:46,887
Speaker 3: since been called a massive scam. Trump University was also

563
00:29:46,967 --> 00:29:51,767
Speaker 3: the subject of two class action lawsuits, and they centered

564
00:29:51,767 --> 00:29:56,007
Speaker 3: around the fact that the university defrauded its students by

565
00:29:56,127 --> 00:30:01,687
Speaker 3: using misleading marketing practices and engaging in really aggressive sales tactics.

566
00:30:02,287 --> 00:30:06,807
Speaker 3: Trump claimed that students gave the courses ninety eight percent

567
00:30:06,807 --> 00:30:12,047
Speaker 3: with favorable reviews, but when investigations spoke to former students,

568
00:30:12,487 --> 00:30:16,407
Speaker 3: it turned out that employees of the university, which wasn't

569
00:30:16,407 --> 00:30:20,887
Speaker 3: a university, pressured students to give favorable reviews and then

570
00:30:20,967 --> 00:30:23,367
Speaker 3: told them they had to fill out those forms to

571
00:30:23,487 --> 00:30:26,527
Speaker 3: get their graduation certificates. See, that's one of the tricks

572
00:30:26,567 --> 00:30:30,847
Speaker 3: I teach it, Trump And yeah, it's called how to

573
00:30:30,847 --> 00:30:33,967
Speaker 3: be a trick Star. It's yeah, and number one is

574
00:30:34,527 --> 00:30:37,847
Speaker 3: don't give them their fake degree until they've said you're

575
00:30:37,847 --> 00:30:42,727
Speaker 3: good at it. Yeah. Yeah, honestly, Switch, it was just

576
00:30:42,887 --> 00:30:43,807
Speaker 3: practicing what it was.

577
00:30:44,127 --> 00:30:44,847
Speaker 2: You know what it's like.

578
00:30:45,207 --> 00:30:47,567
Speaker 3: It's not quite like this because it is more intense,

579
00:30:47,567 --> 00:30:49,007
Speaker 3: But it's like when you get out of an uber

580
00:30:49,047 --> 00:30:52,127
Speaker 3: and the uber driver gives you a really like deep

581
00:30:52,167 --> 00:30:54,087
Speaker 3: stare and says, please give me five stars.

582
00:30:55,047 --> 00:30:56,207
Speaker 2: Where were we the other night?

583
00:30:56,407 --> 00:31:00,287
Speaker 3: That's right, And someone said they're uber driver canceled? Yeah,

584
00:31:00,367 --> 00:31:02,687
Speaker 3: your uber driver canceled and then called you and threatened

585
00:31:02,727 --> 00:31:04,407
Speaker 3: you and said you need to cancel on me because

586
00:31:04,447 --> 00:31:07,487
Speaker 3: I've been downgraded because of how often I canceled. It's like,

587
00:31:07,527 --> 00:31:10,527
Speaker 3: that sounds like a whole lot of your problem. That's

588
00:31:10,647 --> 00:31:14,487
Speaker 3: very Trumps. He went to Trump University and he was like,

589
00:31:14,487 --> 00:31:16,927
Speaker 3: what I'm going to do is threaten you into not

590
00:31:16,967 --> 00:31:19,447
Speaker 3: only saying you canceled, but also giving me a five

591
00:31:19,487 --> 00:31:26,247
Speaker 3: star care. Instruction for the Trump University program usually began

592
00:31:26,327 --> 00:31:29,527
Speaker 3: with an introductory seminar in a rented space like a

593
00:31:29,607 --> 00:31:33,767
Speaker 3: hotel ball and at that seminar, students were urged to

594
00:31:33,807 --> 00:31:38,127
Speaker 3: sign up for additional classes, and they ranged from one thousand,

595
00:31:38,367 --> 00:31:41,847
Speaker 3: four hundred and ninety five dollars seminars to thirty five

596
00:31:41,927 --> 00:31:48,367
Speaker 3: thousand dollars gold elite programs. Many students paid those fees

597
00:31:48,527 --> 00:31:52,447
Speaker 3: for lessons from experts who were kind of marketed to

598
00:31:52,447 --> 00:31:55,887
Speaker 3: be hand picked by Donald Trump. So he really used

599
00:31:55,887 --> 00:31:59,727
Speaker 3: his whole like apprentice persona to be like, you're going

600
00:31:59,767 --> 00:32:04,127
Speaker 3: to hear from Richard Branson, Yeah, yeah, And Trump himself

601
00:32:04,287 --> 00:32:10,647
Speaker 3: appeared in adverts boasting that the customers or clients would

602
00:32:10,807 --> 00:32:14,407
Speaker 3: make a million dollars in a year. Many never made

603
00:32:14,447 --> 00:32:17,887
Speaker 3: any profits and struggled because they were in debt after

604
00:32:18,007 --> 00:32:21,247
Speaker 3: maxing out their credit cards, because they were sold to

605
00:32:21,847 --> 00:32:26,687
Speaker 3: relentlessly to take those courses that weren't even actually anything

606
00:32:26,687 --> 00:32:28,487
Speaker 3: to do with the university. Did they consider and this

607
00:32:28,607 --> 00:32:32,127
Speaker 3: might be on them, but did they consider starting by

608
00:32:32,127 --> 00:32:33,647
Speaker 3: getting a one million dollar load from that?

609
00:32:33,767 --> 00:32:34,007
Speaker 2: Doubt?

610
00:32:34,047 --> 00:32:37,327
Speaker 3: Actually, great point, because thirty five thousand dollars for a

611
00:32:37,367 --> 00:32:39,887
Speaker 3: program isn't that much when you've got your meal. No,

612
00:32:40,007 --> 00:32:44,927
Speaker 3: you've still got like nine hundred thousand at least you do?

613
00:32:45,247 --> 00:32:45,487
Speaker 3: You do?

614
00:32:45,767 --> 00:32:46,487
Speaker 2: Yeah?

615
00:32:46,527 --> 00:32:49,287
Speaker 3: And so I think you've got Ellia Dent. Yeah, you

616
00:32:49,407 --> 00:32:53,647
Speaker 3: got a good point. What's the problem, so, Jess. In

617
00:32:53,727 --> 00:32:57,407
Speaker 3: the end, after all the investigations and everyone went to court,

618
00:32:57,967 --> 00:33:01,207
Speaker 3: Trump University ended up paying twenty five million, which was

619
00:33:01,327 --> 00:33:05,647
Speaker 3: ninety percent of the costs that they had made from

620
00:33:05,767 --> 00:33:11,007
Speaker 3: that entire operation. They're still more money. That's what I

621
00:33:11,047 --> 00:33:14,647
Speaker 3: also don't understand out rich people. I know, it's always

622
00:33:14,727 --> 00:33:18,807
Speaker 3: like they've embezzled ten million dollars and it's like, I'm

623
00:33:18,807 --> 00:33:21,287
Speaker 3: gonna find you one point eight And I'm like, I

624
00:33:21,327 --> 00:33:23,647
Speaker 3: feel like this is a net positive. I'm like, should

625
00:33:23,687 --> 00:33:29,567
Speaker 3: I be Jesse? Health beliefs. Trump says he has never

626
00:33:29,927 --> 00:33:33,927
Speaker 3: consumed alcohol, smoked cigarettes. I'm actually quite impressed by this

627
00:33:34,047 --> 00:33:35,927
Speaker 3: yeact when it comes to Trump. The man just likes

628
00:33:35,927 --> 00:33:37,567
Speaker 3: a diet coke, and I'm like, look, we actually have

629
00:33:37,607 --> 00:33:39,887
Speaker 3: a lot in common. Although is it die cocer? Is

630
00:33:39,927 --> 00:33:41,527
Speaker 3: it a full strength coke? I feel like that says

631
00:33:41,527 --> 00:33:42,207
Speaker 3: a lot about a pot.

632
00:33:42,327 --> 00:33:45,847
Speaker 2: Yeah. He loves to soft drink. Yeah.

633
00:33:45,887 --> 00:33:48,487
Speaker 3: So he also says he's never used drugs. This is

634
00:33:48,527 --> 00:33:51,567
Speaker 3: because he witnessed his brother Fred's struggle with alcoholism and

635
00:33:51,647 --> 00:33:55,327
Speaker 3: later die from it, which's very sad. He sleeps about

636
00:33:55,367 --> 00:33:57,927
Speaker 3: four or five hours a night. I think that's not true.

637
00:33:58,007 --> 00:34:00,287
Speaker 2: Isn't enough. I don't think that's true.

638
00:34:00,447 --> 00:34:03,527
Speaker 3: I think he read Kevin Rudd's autobiography, Yeah, where Kevin

639
00:34:03,607 --> 00:34:06,087
Speaker 3: Rudd famously slept four to five hours a night, which

640
00:34:06,287 --> 00:34:08,647
Speaker 3: made everyone think that he worked really hard with the

641
00:34:08,647 --> 00:34:10,647
Speaker 3: rest of the hour, whereas I think you just spend

642
00:34:10,687 --> 00:34:13,767
Speaker 3: four hours being shitty because you've not had enough sleep.

643
00:34:13,967 --> 00:34:17,087
Speaker 2: Yeah. But the man, he's not got a busy schedule.

644
00:34:18,007 --> 00:34:18,647
Speaker 2: He can sleep.

645
00:34:18,727 --> 00:34:21,367
Speaker 3: Maybe he has four or five hours at night and

646
00:34:21,407 --> 00:34:23,447
Speaker 3: then he has sort of his nine am naps, similar

647
00:34:23,447 --> 00:34:26,367
Speaker 3: to Luna. Luna does like a sort of a ten

648
00:34:26,407 --> 00:34:29,367
Speaker 3: to twelve. Yeah, and then she does three to four. Actually,

649
00:34:29,407 --> 00:34:31,447
Speaker 3: I think that great ups having those. I think he

650
00:34:31,527 --> 00:34:34,567
Speaker 3: naps like a dog lt during the day. He put

651
00:34:34,647 --> 00:34:37,687
Speaker 3: him in his sleepsack. You put on his white noise.

652
00:34:37,727 --> 00:34:40,487
Speaker 3: He put a little dumb dumb in. He has these naps,

653
00:34:40,727 --> 00:34:41,767
Speaker 3: helps with these moods.

654
00:34:42,407 --> 00:34:44,647
Speaker 2: Give him to some more milk in a bottle.

655
00:34:45,047 --> 00:34:47,607
Speaker 3: I did read that when he was in court he

656
00:34:47,647 --> 00:34:50,087
Speaker 3: couldn't bring any food and drink, which are similar to

657
00:34:50,087 --> 00:34:53,127
Speaker 3: any toddler you need. Your backpack has the snacks. Yet

658
00:34:53,167 --> 00:34:56,487
Speaker 3: the snacks it might be fruit, it might be rice cakes,

659
00:34:56,767 --> 00:34:59,887
Speaker 3: some apple jeice, some apple juice. But for Trumpets, his

660
00:34:59,967 --> 00:35:04,407
Speaker 3: twelve diet cokes, which helped keep him alert, alert and

661
00:35:04,487 --> 00:35:06,927
Speaker 3: with it, he couldn't have them. And so he was

662
00:35:06,967 --> 00:35:11,967
Speaker 3: sinking into his naps, his scheduled now and this court

663
00:35:11,967 --> 00:35:14,047
Speaker 3: case is getting in the way of how his day

664
00:35:14,047 --> 00:35:17,687
Speaker 3: would normally look. It's very difficult to stay awake. I'm

665
00:35:17,767 --> 00:35:22,127
Speaker 3: being prosecuted. Then he just threw something at the judge

666
00:35:22,167 --> 00:35:24,807
Speaker 3: like it was a television and he's like, I'm bored.

667
00:35:25,767 --> 00:35:28,887
Speaker 3: I also think that for most people, the act of

668
00:35:29,367 --> 00:35:32,127
Speaker 3: sitting in a courtroom on your own trial would be

669
00:35:32,247 --> 00:35:35,167
Speaker 3: enough adrenaline to keep you awake. But for Trump, he's like, no,

670
00:35:35,247 --> 00:35:37,247
Speaker 3: I'm really going to need those twelve dikes. He's like,

671
00:35:37,327 --> 00:35:40,367
Speaker 3: this is the biggest work day I've ever had, is

672
00:35:40,447 --> 00:35:42,407
Speaker 3: sitting in this Do people do this every day?

673
00:35:42,607 --> 00:35:43,327
Speaker 2: Sit in a room?

674
00:35:43,527 --> 00:35:46,967
Speaker 3: Wait, you may I turn up today and tomorrow and

675
00:35:47,127 --> 00:35:49,367
Speaker 3: maybe even the next day in the morning.

676
00:35:49,487 --> 00:35:53,647
Speaker 2: This is punishment enough without the sentence. Jesse.

677
00:35:53,807 --> 00:35:57,607
Speaker 3: He has called golfing his primary form of exercise, but

678
00:35:57,807 --> 00:35:59,687
Speaker 3: usually does not walk the court.

679
00:36:00,047 --> 00:36:02,327
Speaker 2: And we need to discuss this because we used to

680
00:36:02,367 --> 00:36:02,927
Speaker 2: work at golf co.

681
00:36:03,487 --> 00:36:08,767
Speaker 3: Yeah, and men there's men thought that they were so

682
00:36:08,807 --> 00:36:11,167
Speaker 3: special to go and do their like eighteen holes. Nothing

683
00:36:11,167 --> 00:36:14,167
Speaker 3: against golf, nothing against golf. If you're in a cart

684
00:36:14,487 --> 00:36:18,487
Speaker 3: and you start drinking, he's heina kitten at seven am.

685
00:36:18,927 --> 00:36:24,607
Speaker 3: It's not exercise, mate, it's not. You're just driving around

686
00:36:24,927 --> 00:36:29,687
Speaker 3: drunk and then swinging a stick, swinging a stick which badly,

687
00:36:30,047 --> 00:36:32,847
Speaker 3: which I will say might be great for the social life,

688
00:36:33,367 --> 00:36:35,047
Speaker 3: might be great for your well being.

689
00:36:35,127 --> 00:36:37,847
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, is it exercise? Really not?

690
00:36:38,047 --> 00:36:40,527
Speaker 3: The exercise parts meant to be, the walking up and

691
00:36:40,607 --> 00:36:43,807
Speaker 3: down the fairway, and you just know he sits in

692
00:36:43,807 --> 00:36:47,727
Speaker 3: the clubhouse afterwards, and has a diet coached because he's

693
00:36:47,727 --> 00:36:50,727
Speaker 3: had four on the course. But he's he's twelve in

694
00:36:51,087 --> 00:36:53,727
Speaker 3: And it used to be my job to be on

695
00:36:53,767 --> 00:36:56,207
Speaker 3: the drinks cart and I would come along with some

696
00:36:56,407 --> 00:36:58,287
Speaker 3: snacks and some drinks, and I know i'd stop and

697
00:36:58,327 --> 00:37:00,807
Speaker 3: I'd go Trump because everyone on the golf course looked

698
00:37:00,807 --> 00:37:03,487
Speaker 3: exactly like Trump. Yeah, there was a man who war suspenders.

699
00:37:03,487 --> 00:37:07,287
Speaker 3: I feel like Trump could wear suspenders while he's playing golf. Donald,

700
00:37:07,967 --> 00:37:09,167
Speaker 3: do you want anything from the drinks car?

701
00:37:09,727 --> 00:37:10,047
Speaker 2: Yes?

702
00:37:10,087 --> 00:37:11,927
Speaker 3: And then he says something like lovely lady and tups

703
00:37:11,927 --> 00:37:14,287
Speaker 3: me on the and then he looks through and he

704
00:37:14,327 --> 00:37:16,167
Speaker 3: opens up the one side that has sandwiches and he

705
00:37:16,247 --> 00:37:18,727
Speaker 3: slams that because he's pissed off about the sandwiches and

706
00:37:18,727 --> 00:37:19,127
Speaker 3: the salads.

707
00:37:19,127 --> 00:37:20,087
Speaker 2: And he goes to the other.

708
00:37:19,967 --> 00:37:24,207
Speaker 3: Side where there's chocolates and there's chips, and he goes, oh,

709
00:37:24,247 --> 00:37:26,127
Speaker 3: they're having some of these and he takes it out

710
00:37:26,167 --> 00:37:28,287
Speaker 3: from the handful. You know someone's rich when they go

711
00:37:28,407 --> 00:37:30,367
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get and they take out like six

712
00:37:30,487 --> 00:37:32,807
Speaker 3: chocolate bars and chips and you're like, WHOA just checking

713
00:37:32,807 --> 00:37:36,207
Speaker 3: it is nine fifteen. That's really aggressive. And I know

714
00:37:36,287 --> 00:37:38,327
Speaker 3: you had to bacon and make roll at the halfway house.

715
00:37:38,407 --> 00:37:40,927
Speaker 3: I saw you, and then open the other thing. He

716
00:37:40,967 --> 00:37:44,087
Speaker 3: doesn't drink, but he does want a morning deco because

717
00:37:44,087 --> 00:37:47,287
Speaker 3: like and he'd grab one of those. I think he'd

718
00:37:47,807 --> 00:37:49,327
Speaker 3: grab a few light bottles because.

719
00:37:49,167 --> 00:37:49,927
Speaker 2: Drink light water.

720
00:37:50,367 --> 00:37:57,047
Speaker 3: Yeah, frundration, thirsty this morning, absolutely just Donald Trump considers

721
00:37:57,287 --> 00:38:00,887
Speaker 3: exercise a waste of energy because he believes the body

722
00:38:00,967 --> 00:38:03,967
Speaker 3: is like a battery with a finite amount of energy,

723
00:38:04,487 --> 00:38:08,367
Speaker 3: which is still to really respect by. I think he's

724
00:38:08,407 --> 00:38:14,647
Speaker 3: onto somebthy In a book called Trump Revealed, two Washington

725
00:38:14,727 --> 00:38:19,647
Speaker 3: Post journalists write more about this battery theory of exercise.

726
00:38:20,487 --> 00:38:22,807
Speaker 3: They right, I can't talk about battery theory as though

727
00:38:22,847 --> 00:38:25,527
Speaker 3: this is a lugitimate theory, just as a person not

728
00:38:25,567 --> 00:38:28,087
Speaker 3: want to exercise and start saying I'm built like a battery.

729
00:38:28,847 --> 00:38:30,327
Speaker 2: But even batteries are recharged.

730
00:38:30,967 --> 00:38:36,127
Speaker 3: After college, after Trump mostly gave up his personal athletic interests,

731
00:38:36,167 --> 00:38:39,807
Speaker 3: he came to view time spent playing sports as time wasted.

732
00:38:40,287 --> 00:38:42,087
Speaker 3: Trump believed the body is like a battery with a

733
00:38:42,127 --> 00:38:45,367
Speaker 3: finite amount of energy, which exercise only depleted, so he

734
00:38:45,447 --> 00:38:49,207
Speaker 3: didn't work out. When he learned that John O'Donnell, one

735
00:38:49,247 --> 00:38:53,407
Speaker 3: of his top casino executives was training for an Ironman triathlon.

736
00:38:53,847 --> 00:38:57,127
Speaker 3: He admonished him, you are going to die young because

737
00:38:57,167 --> 00:39:01,447
Speaker 3: of this. Then in twenty fifteen, there was a New

738
00:39:01,527 --> 00:39:05,087
Speaker 3: York Times profile where Trump said he was not following

739
00:39:05,127 --> 00:39:10,207
Speaker 3: any special diet or exercise regimen for his political campaign.

740
00:39:10,927 --> 00:39:13,287
Speaker 3: All my friends who work out all the time, they're

741
00:39:13,287 --> 00:39:18,087
Speaker 3: going for knee replacements, hip replacements. They're a disaster, he said.

742
00:39:18,687 --> 00:39:21,687
Speaker 3: I'm just in my golf cart. He exerts himself fully

743
00:39:21,727 --> 00:39:23,647
Speaker 3: by standing in front of an audience for an hour.

744
00:39:24,407 --> 00:39:27,887
Speaker 2: That's exercise, but it's not. Technically, it's not. Though.

745
00:39:28,407 --> 00:39:31,567
Speaker 3: In twenty fifteen, his campaign released a letter from his

746
00:39:31,687 --> 00:39:36,287
Speaker 3: longtime personal physician, Harold Bornstein, stating that Trump would be

747
00:39:36,367 --> 00:39:40,807
Speaker 3: the healthiest individual ever elected to the president. Harry Bornstein

748
00:39:40,847 --> 00:39:43,767
Speaker 3: the same as John who called that paper to say

749
00:39:43,767 --> 00:39:46,247
Speaker 3: that he was pretty sure Donald Trump was a billionaire. No,

750
00:39:46,567 --> 00:39:49,447
Speaker 3: because Bornstein is real. Because Then three years later, in

751
00:39:49,487 --> 00:39:52,807
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, he said Trump had dictated the contents of

752
00:39:52,847 --> 00:39:56,007
Speaker 3: the letter and that three of Trump's agents had seized

753
00:39:56,007 --> 00:39:59,407
Speaker 3: his medical records in a February twenty seventeen raid on

754
00:39:59,447 --> 00:40:04,447
Speaker 3: the doctor's office. In twenty sixteen, while campaigning, Trump said,

755
00:40:04,487 --> 00:40:07,047
Speaker 3: I actually have low blood pressure. Can you believe it?

756
00:40:07,247 --> 00:40:11,927
Speaker 3: Can you believe it? I have ultimate flex have like

757
00:40:12,007 --> 00:40:15,007
Speaker 3: one hundred over something. The doctor said, man, you have

758
00:40:15,047 --> 00:40:17,407
Speaker 3: the blood pressure of a great, great athlete who is

759
00:40:17,447 --> 00:40:20,287
Speaker 3: twenty years old, one hundred and ten. I like that

760
00:40:20,607 --> 00:40:25,127
Speaker 3: because I like being a great athlete. Can you call

761
00:40:25,207 --> 00:40:27,887
Speaker 3: yourself a great athlete when you have a theory of

762
00:40:27,927 --> 00:40:31,367
Speaker 3: exercise that involved in not exercising.

763
00:40:31,127 --> 00:40:33,367
Speaker 2: Because you don't want to run out your battery?

764
00:40:34,327 --> 00:40:38,647
Speaker 3: Politics and the campaign. Donald Trump registered as a Republican

765
00:40:39,007 --> 00:40:42,327
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty seven, Then in nineteen ninety nine he

766
00:40:42,407 --> 00:40:45,527
Speaker 3: became a member of the Independence Party, which is a

767
00:40:45,567 --> 00:40:49,327
Speaker 3: New York State affiliate of the Reform Party. In two

768
00:40:49,327 --> 00:40:52,247
Speaker 3: thousand and one, he was a Democrat, oh then a

769
00:40:52,287 --> 00:40:55,687
Speaker 3: Republican in two thousand and nine. Then he was unaffiliated

770
00:40:55,767 --> 00:41:00,207
Speaker 3: in twenty eleven, and a Republican in twenty twelve. In

771
00:41:00,287 --> 00:41:06,167
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight, Trump contacted someone in politics asking to

772
00:41:06,167 --> 00:41:11,487
Speaker 3: be considered as Republican nominee jaw Hw Bush's running mate.

773
00:41:11,767 --> 00:41:17,087
Speaker 3: Bush found the request strange and unbelievable. He actually ran

774
00:41:17,367 --> 00:41:21,487
Speaker 3: in the California and Michigan primaries for nomination as the

775
00:41:21,567 --> 00:41:25,367
Speaker 3: Reform Party candidate for the two thousand presidential election, but

776
00:41:25,527 --> 00:41:29,607
Speaker 3: withdrew from the race. In twenty eleven, he considered running

777
00:41:29,647 --> 00:41:33,287
Speaker 3: against Barack Obama, then he announced he would not run.

778
00:41:34,407 --> 00:41:39,327
Speaker 3: His presidential ambitions were and I quote, generally not taken.

779
00:41:39,087 --> 00:41:41,967
Speaker 2: Seriously at the time. That's so sad.

780
00:41:42,567 --> 00:41:45,447
Speaker 3: Then he runs in twenty sixteen, and Jesse, I just

781
00:41:45,447 --> 00:41:47,967
Speaker 3: want to chat about a couple of the things we've

782
00:41:48,007 --> 00:41:49,887
Speaker 3: definitely forgotten about the campaign, and.

783
00:41:50,007 --> 00:41:52,727
Speaker 2: I'm not going to list them all. He was a shambles.

784
00:41:53,247 --> 00:41:56,207
Speaker 2: He was a shambles. From twenty fifteen.

785
00:41:56,247 --> 00:41:59,447
Speaker 3: He talked about building the Great Wall on the southern

786
00:41:59,447 --> 00:42:02,207
Speaker 3: border with Mexico and getting Mexico to pay for it.

787
00:42:02,407 --> 00:42:05,607
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would build a great wall, and nobody builds

788
00:42:05,607 --> 00:42:06,327
Speaker 5: walls better than me.

789
00:42:06,407 --> 00:42:09,807
Speaker 2: Believe me, Jesse. Why would Mexico pay for it?

790
00:42:11,127 --> 00:42:12,927
Speaker 3: Well, you go to Mexico. I mean he's one of

791
00:42:12,967 --> 00:42:15,687
Speaker 3: the great negotiators. You've seen him on The Apprentice. He

792
00:42:15,727 --> 00:42:18,927
Speaker 3: would knock on Mexico and he would say, hey, we

793
00:42:18,967 --> 00:42:21,607
Speaker 3: want to lock you out, and they'd say why, and

794
00:42:21,647 --> 00:42:23,447
Speaker 3: he'd say, well, because you're all I think he's called

795
00:42:23,487 --> 00:42:24,847
Speaker 3: them more rapists and murtterers. Yeah.

796
00:42:24,847 --> 00:42:26,687
Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever met a Mexican person before.

797
00:42:26,767 --> 00:42:30,487
Speaker 3: But he's like, because you're all criminals, and it's like, okay,

798
00:42:30,647 --> 00:42:33,927
Speaker 3: all right, we won't come. And we would like to

799
00:42:33,967 --> 00:42:38,247
Speaker 3: build a wall. Wall that feels aggressive, that feels very

800
00:42:38,927 --> 00:42:42,327
Speaker 3: the Berlin wall. He says, what's a Berlin wall? And

801
00:42:42,367 --> 00:42:45,647
Speaker 3: then they say it feels very Northern Ireland. They have

802
00:42:45,687 --> 00:42:48,007
Speaker 3: a big and he says, what's a Northern Island? Yes,

803
00:42:48,047 --> 00:42:50,247
Speaker 3: and he's confused. It's hard because it doesn't any contact. Yeah,

804
00:42:50,287 --> 00:42:53,687
Speaker 3: and he says, as I see it, there's an immigration

805
00:42:53,807 --> 00:42:58,447
Speaker 3: issue and that will be solved by a wall. And

806
00:42:58,487 --> 00:43:07,127
Speaker 3: then somebody says what about planes, and he says pause pause.

807
00:43:07,447 --> 00:43:09,367
Speaker 3: He says the wall will be high enough. He the

808
00:43:09,367 --> 00:43:12,607
Speaker 3: blame belt. Oh wow, true, and then as he's walking away,

809
00:43:12,727 --> 00:43:14,447
Speaker 3: he says it.

810
00:43:16,007 --> 00:43:18,367
Speaker 2: Saying what you're paying for it?

811
00:43:18,367 --> 00:43:22,047
Speaker 3: It's very like your neighbour coming over with an annoying

812
00:43:22,127 --> 00:43:27,767
Speaker 3: request and then saying like, we're building a new fence. Yeah,

813
00:43:27,847 --> 00:43:30,287
Speaker 3: and also we want to go halves. And it's like,

814
00:43:31,087 --> 00:43:33,007
Speaker 3: but I don't want the but I don't want the fence.

815
00:43:33,327 --> 00:43:34,647
Speaker 3: I don't have the money.

816
00:43:36,567 --> 00:43:37,567
Speaker 2: I want that.

817
00:43:37,567 --> 00:43:41,207
Speaker 3: That always confused me, like, yes, absolutely bizarre to suggests

818
00:43:41,247 --> 00:43:43,367
Speaker 3: a war which he called the Great War, which is

819
00:43:43,447 --> 00:43:45,447
Speaker 3: like Great Wall of China. But that's nothing to do

820
00:43:45,487 --> 00:43:49,047
Speaker 3: with immigration. Like he's just so confused the fact he

821
00:43:49,167 --> 00:43:51,127
Speaker 3: wanted them to pay for it. Yeah, I don't know

822
00:43:51,167 --> 00:43:55,047
Speaker 3: how he was planning on sort of invoicing for that

823
00:43:55,407 --> 00:43:59,207
Speaker 3: Mexico just to their email on a Monday. He wouldn't

824
00:43:59,207 --> 00:44:03,167
Speaker 3: have done it. But it's like to Mexico from Donald

825
00:44:03,647 --> 00:44:09,967
Speaker 3: for billion dollars, line item one time, great wall?

826
00:44:12,927 --> 00:44:15,567
Speaker 2: Who's building it? We'll get to the wall.

827
00:44:15,647 --> 00:44:18,727
Speaker 3: Okay, well, actually I can't remember if I've got this

828
00:44:18,807 --> 00:44:19,327
Speaker 3: in my notes.

829
00:44:19,447 --> 00:44:20,207
Speaker 2: Oh no, I do.

830
00:44:20,447 --> 00:44:22,287
Speaker 3: In the next part, which is about what he did

831
00:44:22,447 --> 00:44:25,327
Speaker 3: during his presidency, who was meant to build it? So

832
00:44:25,367 --> 00:44:27,727
Speaker 3: he started building? Oh I didn't know that, but it

833
00:44:27,767 --> 00:44:30,927
Speaker 3: only got built like a tiny bit. Yeh ran out

834
00:44:30,967 --> 00:44:37,207
Speaker 3: of time. Well got distracted. Okay, this is a dumb question,

835
00:44:37,327 --> 00:44:39,767
Speaker 3: but like how big a wall are we talking? Because

836
00:44:39,767 --> 00:44:42,967
Speaker 3: it sounded like he imagined it to be like building

837
00:44:42,967 --> 00:44:45,607
Speaker 3: a pool fence. Yes, like you know what we should do.

838
00:44:45,607 --> 00:44:47,767
Speaker 3: We should build a fence, yeah, for safety or whatever.

839
00:44:47,887 --> 00:44:49,487
Speaker 3: And you're like, yeah, great, well we can do that

840
00:44:49,527 --> 00:44:51,647
Speaker 3: in a week. And you know it always blows out

841
00:44:51,687 --> 00:44:53,087
Speaker 3: a bit or it took three weeks.

842
00:44:53,807 --> 00:44:55,967
Speaker 2: How that's actually an art of the deal.

843
00:44:56,007 --> 00:44:59,887
Speaker 3: He talks about overestimating the time ah of a project.

844
00:45:00,127 --> 00:45:01,887
Speaker 2: How long would this wall have been?

845
00:45:02,087 --> 00:45:05,047
Speaker 3: So the wall was gonna have to be three thousand,

846
00:45:05,127 --> 00:45:07,087
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty five kilometers.

847
00:45:07,247 --> 00:45:11,087
Speaker 2: Now you can't picture that, I can't picture no context.

848
00:45:11,167 --> 00:45:15,367
Speaker 3: Yeah, the length of Australia from the north, like far

849
00:45:15,407 --> 00:45:18,687
Speaker 3: North Queens far North, Yeah, to the south tip of

850
00:45:18,727 --> 00:45:23,247
Speaker 3: Tasmania is three thousand, eight hundred and sixty kilometers or

851
00:45:23,247 --> 00:45:27,327
Speaker 3: actually not far off. So essentially this wall would have

852
00:45:27,367 --> 00:45:32,047
Speaker 3: been somewhere in the ballpark of the entire length of Australia.

853
00:45:32,367 --> 00:45:35,047
Speaker 3: It's a big project. It's a big project from a

854
00:45:35,087 --> 00:45:39,887
Speaker 3: man with a not a big man. And also would

855
00:45:39,887 --> 00:45:42,487
Speaker 3: have to be thirty thousand feet tall at least forty

856
00:45:42,487 --> 00:45:44,447
Speaker 3: thousand feet tall because it doesn't want the planes coming

857
00:45:44,487 --> 00:45:47,767
Speaker 3: in now exactly. And then you've got to figure out

858
00:45:47,767 --> 00:45:52,407
Speaker 3: the invoicing. Yes, a logistical nightmare. How do you invoice

859
00:45:52,407 --> 00:45:53,767
Speaker 3: the people on the other side of the wall.

860
00:45:54,647 --> 00:45:58,847
Speaker 2: You think about it, there's no I got it. There's

861
00:45:58,847 --> 00:45:59,527
Speaker 2: a letter box.

862
00:46:00,327 --> 00:46:03,767
Speaker 3: There is a letter box, Okay, so you just you Okay,

863
00:46:03,807 --> 00:46:04,687
Speaker 3: so you've got a letter box.

864
00:46:04,687 --> 00:46:06,287
Speaker 2: But what if the people start trying to climb.

865
00:46:06,087 --> 00:46:08,047
Speaker 3: Through the word no, no, no, I wasn't thinking that. I

866
00:46:08,087 --> 00:46:10,367
Speaker 3: was thinking you put your invoice, which is like monogram

867
00:46:10,527 --> 00:46:13,927
Speaker 3: and stuff, and you're like Donald one time's wall, three

868
00:46:13,927 --> 00:46:15,087
Speaker 3: billion dollars, you put it through.

869
00:46:15,447 --> 00:46:16,407
Speaker 2: What if they just ignore it?

870
00:46:17,527 --> 00:46:20,207
Speaker 3: What then then you say you knock on the wall

871
00:46:20,367 --> 00:46:22,527
Speaker 3: and then you give them a notice. Yeah, and you

872
00:46:22,567 --> 00:46:27,687
Speaker 3: say no, mom over, you're invoice. What the plan you

873
00:46:27,807 --> 00:46:31,967
Speaker 3: threaten will tear it, will tear it down. If you

874
00:46:32,007 --> 00:46:34,127
Speaker 3: don't pay for it, we'll tear it down. And they're like,

875
00:46:34,687 --> 00:46:38,887
Speaker 3: please do we didn't want wall, Like, I don't know

876
00:46:38,927 --> 00:46:41,047
Speaker 3: how you it's a really bad plan and no one

877
00:46:41,087 --> 00:46:44,047
Speaker 3: called it out enough. There's so many other things going on. Yeah,

878
00:46:44,087 --> 00:46:46,727
Speaker 3: that's the thing. Speaking of other things. They grab them

879
00:46:46,727 --> 00:46:47,647
Speaker 3: by the pussy footage.

880
00:46:47,767 --> 00:46:49,607
Speaker 4: I got to use some ticktock just in case they

881
00:46:49,687 --> 00:46:53,447
Speaker 4: don't kissing her. You know, I'm automatically attracted the beautiful.

882
00:46:53,487 --> 00:46:54,527
Speaker 4: I just don't kissing them.

883
00:46:54,607 --> 00:46:55,927
Speaker 3: It's like a magnet. You just.

884
00:46:58,007 --> 00:46:59,487
Speaker 4: When you're a start, they let you do it.

885
00:46:59,887 --> 00:47:01,207
Speaker 3: You can do anything whatever you want.

886
00:47:01,327 --> 00:47:02,647
Speaker 4: Grab them by the pussy.

887
00:47:02,847 --> 00:47:03,887
Speaker 2: That was ft.

888
00:47:04,167 --> 00:47:07,607
Speaker 3: So that access Hollywood tape that was from eleven years earlier.

889
00:47:08,047 --> 00:47:10,327
Speaker 3: It came out and then it was all about the

890
00:47:10,327 --> 00:47:13,367
Speaker 3: locker room talk and blah blah blah, like it's disgusting,

891
00:47:13,527 --> 00:47:16,767
Speaker 3: it's appalling. Grab him by the pussy doesn't even make sense.

892
00:47:17,047 --> 00:47:17,527
Speaker 2: I doesn't.

893
00:47:18,247 --> 00:47:22,167
Speaker 3: He can't grab someone by the pussy anymore. No, then

894
00:47:22,207 --> 00:47:24,807
Speaker 3: you can grab him, you can have something graben by

895
00:47:24,847 --> 00:47:29,487
Speaker 3: the mouth, like it's not something you do grab him by.

896
00:47:29,647 --> 00:47:32,247
Speaker 3: See even in a year has more bits And Okay,

897
00:47:32,287 --> 00:47:34,367
Speaker 3: here's the other thing. So it was eleven years earlier

898
00:47:34,487 --> 00:47:38,367
Speaker 3: and he was on the set for See maybe this

899
00:47:38,407 --> 00:47:41,287
Speaker 3: is why he couldn't go rogue on the Apprentice because

900
00:47:41,287 --> 00:47:44,847
Speaker 3: hists don't make sense. Yeah, no, exactly exactly. And I

901
00:47:44,847 --> 00:47:46,607
Speaker 3: imagine that there was a whole lot of stuff like

902
00:47:46,647 --> 00:47:49,607
Speaker 3: that said behind the scenes of The Apprentice that all

903
00:47:49,647 --> 00:47:50,247
Speaker 3: those tapes have.

904
00:47:51,247 --> 00:47:51,807
Speaker 2: Just this was.

905
00:47:51,727 --> 00:47:55,767
Speaker 3: Eleven years earlier. He was in business mogul era. Why

906
00:47:55,927 --> 00:47:59,327
Speaker 3: was he on set of Days of Our Lives?

907
00:48:00,167 --> 00:48:01,967
Speaker 2: Oh, that's actually the question, isn't it.

908
00:48:02,047 --> 00:48:05,207
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's where it was filmed. Jath w is

909
00:48:05,247 --> 00:48:08,327
Speaker 3: the behavior of an unemployed man. That is the behavior

910
00:48:08,367 --> 00:48:11,727
Speaker 3: of a man, and I'm again nothing to do at

911
00:48:11,767 --> 00:48:15,487
Speaker 3: midday on Tuesday, and when we get in trouble. We

912
00:48:15,527 --> 00:48:19,047
Speaker 3: all know what it's like when we are underemployed and

913
00:48:19,207 --> 00:48:21,887
Speaker 3: we don't go, well, I'll tell you what. We drink

914
00:48:21,927 --> 00:48:26,967
Speaker 3: too much diet coke. Underemployed, which we are, We're wandering often,

915
00:48:27,207 --> 00:48:30,327
Speaker 3: we're wandering into watching days of our lives at home. Yes,

916
00:48:30,607 --> 00:48:32,327
Speaker 3: but he's like and you know when you're watching TV

917
00:48:32,487 --> 00:48:34,727
Speaker 3: and the sun's out and you're like, oh, he doesn't

918
00:48:34,767 --> 00:48:37,327
Speaker 3: feel good for the soul. We were at school and

919
00:48:37,367 --> 00:48:41,087
Speaker 3: you'd go doctor phil Oprah ready said he cook, I

920
00:48:41,127 --> 00:48:44,007
Speaker 3: want to cry. It was such a depressing evolution into

921
00:48:44,007 --> 00:48:44,607
Speaker 3: the afternoon.

922
00:48:45,047 --> 00:48:46,727
Speaker 2: It was. It was Jesse.

923
00:48:47,247 --> 00:48:50,007
Speaker 3: I forgot about when Milania gave a speech that was

924
00:48:50,087 --> 00:48:55,087
Speaker 3: nearly identical to Michelle Obamas. So remember, Milania did next

925
00:48:55,127 --> 00:48:57,487
Speaker 3: to nothing, and I mean, we could do a whole

926
00:48:57,767 --> 00:49:01,447
Speaker 3: episode on Milania and fake Milania, et cetera, et cetera.

927
00:49:02,007 --> 00:49:05,527
Speaker 3: But she then did give a speech in twenty sixteen

928
00:49:06,247 --> 00:49:09,847
Speaker 3: and literally there are entire chunks I love it that

929
00:49:09,967 --> 00:49:14,727
Speaker 3: were identical to Michelle Obamas. Okay, I would never say

930
00:49:14,727 --> 00:49:18,887
Speaker 3: this about a woman, but is Milania hear me out

931
00:49:19,367 --> 00:49:27,007
Speaker 3: chat jpt is Milania, Yes, just Ai. Absolutely, And so

932
00:49:27,087 --> 00:49:33,167
Speaker 3: they programmed into her make presidential wife speech and she

933
00:49:33,327 --> 00:49:36,487
Speaker 3: was like, absolutely, I'm going to draw on the wealth

934
00:49:36,527 --> 00:49:40,007
Speaker 3: of information that precedes me. I've accidentally spat out Michelle

935
00:49:40,007 --> 00:49:42,647
Speaker 3: Obamas speech. Be you can't blame me because I am bot.

936
00:49:44,127 --> 00:49:46,287
Speaker 3: I am bot, and I did as bot.

937
00:49:47,047 --> 00:49:47,327
Speaker 2: Jesse.

938
00:49:47,487 --> 00:49:50,047
Speaker 3: Remember when people got mad about Trump and all his

939
00:49:50,127 --> 00:49:57,207
Speaker 3: problematic behavior, so he tweeted this, so many politically correct

940
00:49:57,207 --> 00:49:59,887
Speaker 3: fools in our country. We have to all get back

941
00:49:59,927 --> 00:50:02,127
Speaker 3: to work and stop wasting.

942
00:50:01,807 --> 00:50:03,487
Speaker 2: Time and energy on nonsense.

943
00:50:03,847 --> 00:50:08,207
Speaker 3: Yes, this was August eighth, twenty fifteen, Jesse at ten thirty.

944
00:50:08,367 --> 00:50:12,407
Speaker 2: Go to bed. Who needs to stop wasting time? Who

945
00:50:12,487 --> 00:50:15,767
Speaker 2: needs to stop in time? And is it you?

946
00:50:15,847 --> 00:50:16,087
Speaker 3: Mate?

947
00:50:16,807 --> 00:50:17,087
Speaker 2: Yeah?

948
00:50:17,167 --> 00:50:22,727
Speaker 3: Because people are simply saying the presidential candidate is cooked,

949
00:50:23,567 --> 00:50:27,447
Speaker 3: and you are saying, oh, all this political correctness, it's

950
00:50:27,527 --> 00:50:30,127
Speaker 3: political correctness. We'll have to just get back to work.

951
00:50:30,167 --> 00:50:33,127
Speaker 3: Here's a question, Donald Trump, before you were the president,

952
00:50:33,567 --> 00:50:36,687
Speaker 3: what was your job? What was your job on your

953
00:50:36,687 --> 00:50:39,767
Speaker 3: LinkedIn come on, other than tycoon, which is not a job.

954
00:50:41,487 --> 00:50:45,207
Speaker 3: Trump said things like this, and you reference this just earlier, Jesse.

955
00:50:45,247 --> 00:50:49,127
Speaker 5: When Mexico sends its people. They're not sending their best.

956
00:50:49,647 --> 00:50:53,807
Speaker 5: They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending

957
00:50:53,887 --> 00:50:57,887
Speaker 5: people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those

958
00:50:57,927 --> 00:51:03,127
Speaker 5: problems with us. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, their

959
00:51:03,247 --> 00:51:06,447
Speaker 5: rapists and some are assumer good people.

960
00:51:06,607 --> 00:51:09,247
Speaker 3: He calls he touched it. He couched it. Yeah, yeah,

961
00:51:09,247 --> 00:51:13,727
Speaker 3: he did call them rapists. Yeah. So then he tweeted

962
00:51:13,767 --> 00:51:15,367
Speaker 3: this to kind of make up for it. Do you

963
00:51:15,367 --> 00:51:17,807
Speaker 3: think it made up for it? Yes, I'm okay happy.

964
00:51:18,007 --> 00:51:21,487
Speaker 3: Hashtag Sinko demayo. The best taco bowls are made in

965
00:51:21,487 --> 00:51:25,047
Speaker 3: Trump Tower, grill. I love Hispanics. Wow.

966
00:51:25,167 --> 00:51:26,607
Speaker 2: Jersey described the picture.

967
00:51:26,807 --> 00:51:30,887
Speaker 3: Okay, he's looking really stroked to be eating a taco bowl.

968
00:51:31,167 --> 00:51:34,607
Speaker 3: He's got like a real dollop of sour cream. I

969
00:51:34,647 --> 00:51:38,127
Speaker 3: love some sour cream. There's some cheese sprinkled, and he

970
00:51:38,287 --> 00:51:41,247
Speaker 3: is holding his thumb up and he's just saying, I

971
00:51:41,407 --> 00:51:46,007
Speaker 3: like Mexican food made by white people. I like Mexican food.

972
00:51:46,087 --> 00:51:48,607
Speaker 3: I'm going to build a wall, but you can still.

973
00:51:49,287 --> 00:51:52,007
Speaker 3: You can leave your food if you want any rights. No,

974
00:51:52,447 --> 00:51:54,927
Speaker 3: but that doesn't mean I won't eat. I don't like

975
00:51:54,967 --> 00:51:55,407
Speaker 3: a taco.

976
00:51:55,687 --> 00:51:57,047
Speaker 2: I'm not racist. I like a taco.

977
00:51:57,327 --> 00:52:00,407
Speaker 3: Donald Trump also he didn't understand what he was doing

978
00:52:00,487 --> 00:52:03,847
Speaker 3: at any point. He did something really bizarre when he

979
00:52:03,927 --> 00:52:08,887
Speaker 3: said he hoped Russia could find Hillary Clinton's deleted emails.

980
00:52:09,327 --> 00:52:12,767
Speaker 3: He said, I will tell you this, Russia, if you're listening,

981
00:52:13,447 --> 00:52:16,367
Speaker 3: I hope you're able to find the thirty thousand emails

982
00:52:16,407 --> 00:52:19,327
Speaker 3: that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded

983
00:52:19,727 --> 00:52:24,647
Speaker 3: mightily by our press. It drew criticism because he was

984
00:52:24,687 --> 00:52:27,727
Speaker 3: inviting Russia to hack them. He was very much inviting

985
00:52:27,847 --> 00:52:30,887
Speaker 3: Russia to hack Hillary Clinton.

986
00:52:30,967 --> 00:52:33,687
Speaker 2: His friend Pooty. It's friend Pooty.

987
00:52:33,727 --> 00:52:38,887
Speaker 3: Hey, poot we hung out misunderstood at miss Universe. Can

988
00:52:38,927 --> 00:52:45,967
Speaker 3: you help she's annoying me? Come on, Puty. Clinton campaign

989
00:52:46,047 --> 00:52:49,047
Speaker 3: advisor Jake Sullivan said this has to be the first

990
00:52:49,047 --> 00:52:52,367
Speaker 3: time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a

991
00:52:52,407 --> 00:52:57,247
Speaker 3: foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent. Trump

992
00:52:57,367 --> 00:53:02,847
Speaker 3: just takes a bow comment, wasn't a compliment, Jesse. Yeah,

993
00:53:02,927 --> 00:53:07,007
Speaker 3: that is all we've got time for. And in part two,

994
00:53:07,047 --> 00:53:09,807
Speaker 3: we're going to go through all the things you forgot

995
00:53:09,847 --> 00:53:14,167
Speaker 3: he did during his presidency, and it's going to be

996
00:53:14,207 --> 00:53:16,247
Speaker 3: a sad die, and that is when we will do

997
00:53:16,607 --> 00:53:20,607
Speaker 3: our charges and sentences correct. But Claire, speaking of lazy boys,

998
00:53:21,007 --> 00:53:23,327
Speaker 3: I have a lazy girl story to round out today's

999
00:53:23,327 --> 00:53:26,927
Speaker 3: show to leave our listeners with. This one is from

1000
00:53:26,967 --> 00:53:29,647
Speaker 3: Gemma and she hasn't even said I have a lazy

1001
00:53:29,687 --> 00:53:32,847
Speaker 3: girl story. She's just written lazy girl one word, just

1002
00:53:32,887 --> 00:53:36,087
Speaker 3: as like context. I work in a hospital and before

1003
00:53:36,127 --> 00:53:38,087
Speaker 3: I started this job, I needed to check on all

1004
00:53:38,127 --> 00:53:41,367
Speaker 3: my vaccinations. I knew I had about eight different vaccinations

1005
00:53:41,367 --> 00:53:43,567
Speaker 3: a few years ago. For being a lazy girl, I

1006
00:53:43,567 --> 00:53:45,527
Speaker 3: didn't take note of which ones or file any of

1007
00:53:45,567 --> 00:53:49,727
Speaker 3: the documents after I needed them. And where is that informations? Yeah,

1008
00:53:49,767 --> 00:53:53,647
Speaker 3: dorn because I never know. So instead of trying to

1009
00:53:53,687 --> 00:53:55,967
Speaker 3: find out what I'd already had, I just told my

1010
00:53:56,047 --> 00:53:57,807
Speaker 3: doctor I didn't have any of them.

1011
00:53:57,767 --> 00:54:00,247
Speaker 2: And I got all of them. Again, I've done that. PS.

1012
00:54:00,447 --> 00:54:03,207
Speaker 2: I do not condone you. I'm so true.

1013
00:54:03,247 --> 00:54:05,607
Speaker 3: I would love to know where my vaccination thinks because

1014
00:54:05,607 --> 00:54:07,167
Speaker 3: a doctor, this is what happens. You sit down with

1015
00:54:07,207 --> 00:54:10,327
Speaker 3: your doctor. Your doctor goes, have you had what's the

1016
00:54:10,687 --> 00:54:11,727
Speaker 3: I got bitten by dog? One?

1017
00:54:13,447 --> 00:54:14,527
Speaker 2: Tis? Yeah?

1018
00:54:14,567 --> 00:54:16,407
Speaker 3: Have you had your tennis? And I look at my

1019
00:54:16,487 --> 00:54:19,887
Speaker 3: doctor and I go have I had my technuts And

1020
00:54:19,967 --> 00:54:22,887
Speaker 3: they say the problem with you is that you go

1021
00:54:22,967 --> 00:54:25,487
Speaker 3: to lots of different doctors. I'm not your only doctor.

1022
00:54:25,767 --> 00:54:28,407
Speaker 3: And I say I thought you had a record. Yeah,

1023
00:54:28,487 --> 00:54:32,087
Speaker 3: because I never opted out, I never opted in. There

1024
00:54:32,087 --> 00:54:33,447
Speaker 3: has to be a record somewhere.

1025
00:54:34,087 --> 00:54:38,287
Speaker 2: Jab me. But if not, feel free to better.

1026
00:54:38,367 --> 00:54:39,127
Speaker 3: It's not her.

1027
00:54:39,167 --> 00:54:41,647
Speaker 2: On the side of caution yeah, and to be over jabbed.

1028
00:54:42,807 --> 00:54:45,687
Speaker 2: They say she's a health professional. She says, not a good.

1029
00:54:45,567 --> 00:54:50,487
Speaker 3: Idea, but lazy, lazy girl. We will be back next week.

1030
00:54:50,767 --> 00:54:55,687
Speaker 3: Bye bye,