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Speaker 1: I'm Claire Murphy. This is Mummamia's twice Daly news podcast,

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Speaker 1: The Quickie. On Sunday, August eighteen, a host of Australian

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Speaker 1: TV celebrities will walk the red carpet of the Star

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Speaker 1: in Sydney, hoping to end the night with a logi

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Speaker 1: tucked under their arm. The awards ceremony has been held

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Speaker 1: since nineteen fifty nine, So out there right now, there

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Speaker 1: are hundreds of logis tucked away in boxes, sitting on

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Speaker 1: shelves and in cabinets, a legacy of Australian TV success

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Speaker 1: of the past. Today we're tracking down where some of

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Speaker 1: these logis now live and find out why some may

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Speaker 1: never be seen again. But before we do that, here's

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Speaker 1: the laterst from the Cookie Newsroom. Friday, August sixteen, Five

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Speaker 1: people have been charged over the death of Friends star

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Speaker 1: Matthew Perry, including his assistant, two doctors, and a woman

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Speaker 1: known as the Ketamine Queen. US attorney Martin Astrada says

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Speaker 1: the doctors supplied Perry with a large amount of ketamine

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Speaker 1: and discussed over text messages how much the actor would

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Speaker 1: be willing to pay for it, claiming the defendants took

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Speaker 1: advantage of mister Perry's addiction issues to make themselves richer.

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Speaker 1: Perry went to the doctors after his regular physicians refused

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Speaker 1: to give him ketamine in larger amounts. In one instance,

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Speaker 1: one of the doctors charged Perry two thousand dollars for

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Speaker 1: one vial that would have cost them twelve dollars. Perry

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Speaker 1: died in October last year from a ketemine overdose, with

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Speaker 1: claims he was injected with the drug several times on

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Speaker 1: the day of his death, the injections administered by his

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Speaker 1: living assistant, Kenneth Iwamasa, who'd received twenty five vials of

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Speaker 1: pleaded guilty, as has one of the other defendants, Eric Fleming,

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Speaker 1: who obtained the drug from One of those arrested, a

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Speaker 1: woman named Jaswine Sanger, who allegedly supplied the ketamine that

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Speaker 1: caused Perry's death. The so called ketamine Queen Excis did

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Speaker 1: Australian b girl Raygun has spoken out following the torrent

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Speaker 1: Paris Olympic performance. The thirty six year old lecturer at

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Speaker 1: Sydney's Macquarie University represented Australia in the first ever breakdancing

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Speaker 1: battle and Olympic history, but her efforts quickly set the

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Speaker 1: Internet alight with memes. Due to her lack of skills

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Speaker 1: theories emerging over Raygun's motive for making it to Paris,

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Speaker 1: other more skilled competitors. Raygun took to Instagram last night,

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Speaker 1: thanking those who'd sent messages of support, saying she appreciated

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Speaker 1: the positivity but didn't realize her appearance in Paris would

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Speaker 1: the Australian team. She shot down the conspiracy theories, including

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Speaker 1: one that claimed she managed to orchestrate her husband into

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Speaker 1: beg coming the sport's national selector and judge. New data

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Speaker 1: from the Australian Bureau of Statistics shows the gender pay

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Speaker 1: gap is now the smallest it's ever been, falling from

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Speaker 1: twelve percent to the end of last year to eleven

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Speaker 1: point five percent. Since May twenty twenty two, Australian women's

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Speaker 1: average weekly earnings have increased by one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: three dollars eighty a week. Prime Minister Anthony Albernezi saying

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Speaker 1: it's not a coincidence because his government has been taking

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Speaker 1: action on the issue with moves like banning pay secrecy clauses,

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Speaker 1: Minister for Women Katie Gallaher says the process isn't just

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Speaker 1: who's worked with Kamala Harris, who's now running against Trump

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Speaker 1: Where are all the Logis? We hunt down logi statues

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Speaker 1: of the past to find out where their final resting

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Speaker 1: places are, weighing in at nearly one one and a

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Speaker 1: how heavy they are. The iconic shape of the logi

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Speaker 1: award was created by Melbourne based trophy designer Alec de

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Speaker 1: Lacey back in the nineteen fifties. Originally called a TV

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Speaker 1: Week award, it started being called a Logi after Graham

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Speaker 1: Kennedy referred to it as that celebrating John Logibaird, a

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Speaker 1: Scottish engineer who helped develop television. It's made of stainless

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Speaker 1: steel before being gold or silver plated, taking the makers

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Speaker 1: ten weeks to finish. Since the Logi's debut in nineteen

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Speaker 1: fifty nine, hundreds of the little person holding what looks

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Speaker 1: to some of the most well known personalities in the country.

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Speaker 3: The winner of the Gold Logi.

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Speaker 1: Comedian and variety show host Graham Kennedy won the first

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Speaker 1: logis that have been handed out since then have ended up,

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Speaker 1: but we do know where a few of them are.

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Speaker 1: Every now and then they go up for auction to

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Speaker 1: be snapped up by private collectors, like the nineteen seventy

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Speaker 1: best Overseas shows did recently. The nineteen seventy seven LOGI

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Speaker 1: for Outstanding Contribution to TV Journalism that went to nine

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Speaker 1: in museum collections. Maggie Taboraugh, former Vogue model and Australian

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixties and early seventies called Maggie, won three Logis

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Speaker 1: Her three statues are in the New South Wales State

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Speaker 1: Blue Heelers and Sea Patrol is in the Australian National

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Speaker 1: for Most Popular Female Personality nineteen seventy six that went

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Speaker 1: British TV star Keith Mitchell's nineteen seventy four special souvenir

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Speaker 1: in the Victoria and Albert Museum collection in the UK,

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Speaker 1: and the nineteen ninety eight Gold Logi Hall of Fame Award,

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Speaker 1: which was presented to Graham Kennedy and accepted by Bert Newton,

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Speaker 1: is in the National Film and Sound Archive of Australia.

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Speaker 1: But Bert's own logi locations are a little harder to

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Speaker 1: dedicated to Bert's career that she built while he was

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Speaker 1: She explained that someone had told her that Bert, while

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Speaker 1: and when she put all of them out on display,

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Speaker 3: I built this new room for him, which he never

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Speaker 3: actually got back to see. In there, I put up

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Speaker 5: Bstards out everyone I know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who else has got his logis, but

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Speaker 3: he was a very generous man.

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Speaker 1: We asked three LOGI winners where they keep their statues,

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Speaker 1: and there seems to be a common thread. Delta Goodraom

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Speaker 6: The Logi goes to Delta Goodrum.

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Speaker 1: And this is where she keeps her statue.

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Speaker 5: our logis now. I have taken Logi away from his

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Speaker 5: with our ears. But I brought him up just to

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Speaker 5: share to say happy Logi week. He's back where he

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Speaker 5: to me, the TV music is all one have a

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Speaker 5: great week. Everyone lots love Bye.

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Speaker 1: Mary christis kind of character. Effie won her a LOGI

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three, and this is where it lives now.

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Speaker 7: I keep my LOGI next to the character that helped

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Speaker 7: right next to my computer. I saw the most creative place,

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Speaker 7: but I keep it there so that it can inspire

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Speaker 7: me to be creative. When I like my shows on

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Speaker 1: And Samuel Johnson won a Gold LOGI in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 1: after portraying icon Molly Meldrum in the mini series Molly

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Speaker 1: Samuel jo. He was joined on stage by Meldrin that night,

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Speaker 1: and he, like Delta and Mary, keeps his statue in

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Speaker 2: Good day, Samuel Johnson. Here, I was lucky enough to

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Speaker 2: be awarded one of these a Gold LOGI. It's undoubtedly

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Speaker 2: and indubitably the most fondled gold Logi out of all

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Speaker 2: of the others combined. Literally done hundreds of fundraisers and events.

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Speaker 2: When it's not on the road, I keep it in

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Speaker 2: my bookshelf. I make sure always to put them beneath

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Speaker 2: the record player. Music's the most important thing to me.

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Speaker 1: So all of these logis live where these artists work

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Speaker 1: day to day, keeping them close for inspiration. Maybe Kylie

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Speaker 1: Minogue's people also told us that Kylie wasn't at home

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Speaker 1: to tell us where hers are kept at the moment,

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Speaker 1: but she might be back in time to show us

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Speaker 1: where her arias are not. All LOGI winners get to

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Speaker 1: keep their statue either. Sometimes those who win them, especially

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Speaker 1: if they're part of a news or production team, only

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Speaker 1: get visitation rights to their logis as they're in cabinets

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Speaker 1: at TV networks or production companies. The sixty fourth Annual

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Speaker 1: Logi Awards kickoff this Sunday with comedian Sampang Backers host.

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Speaker 4: I'm the first host in the history of the Logis

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Speaker 4: to be half and half half Channel seven and half

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Speaker 4: Channel ten, So the viewers at home, firstly, if you're

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Speaker 4: under twenty five, welcome to free to wear television.

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Speaker 1: There is a slight change to the rundown this year,

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Speaker 1: with the Outstanding category dumped in favor of Best, and

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Speaker 1: there are more comedy awards. They will also be inducting

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Speaker 1: just the fourth ever woman into the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: since the award was introduced in nineteen ninety four, and

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Speaker 1: while their identity remains a secret at this point, she

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Speaker 1: whoever she is, will join icons like Nony Hazlehurst, Ruth Kracknell,

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Speaker 1: and Kerry Anne Kenneley to be recognized for their life's work.

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Speaker 1: Even though the ceremony is just two days away, you

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Speaker 1: can still vote for your favorites with voting in the

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Speaker 1: Best categories closing tomorrow, and those in the running for

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Speaker 1: One of those nervous nominees is morning show host Larry M. Dup. Now,

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Speaker 1: my very own boss, Mia Friedman in strife. Larry, how

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Speaker 6: It's very flattering. I think that's the only word I've

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Speaker 6: I feel really flattered. I saw me someone yesterdays like

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Speaker 1: How does it feel, Larry coming off the back of

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Speaker 6: Well, like everybody in television, when Tom Gleason won, I

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Speaker 6: So a lot plays into it. But I think it's

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Speaker 1: Have you practiced your close up face, because there'll be

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Speaker 6: Today, Larry, thank you for breting. I haven't practiced that face.

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Speaker 6: I've spend more time practicing the losing face. We have

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Speaker 6: See, I'm going to take your advice and I'm going

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Speaker 1: Full Well, I have to say I was watching the

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Speaker 5: Okay, there will be no goal for you. That's almost

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Speaker 6: I get that.

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Speaker 1: I get that a lot.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Jackie, as it's been a tough way to

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Speaker 1: And I want to tell you something. When I was

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Speaker 6: Ah. That is very kind of you, and I'm glad

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Speaker 6: They're a fantastic, you know, a rock solid field, and

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Speaker 1: Okay, that was a very lovely way to talk about

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Speaker 1: But if you for some reason took yourself out of

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Speaker 6: I can't really tick it. I'm a huge fan of

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Speaker 6: You know, they're friends. Sonya's a great mate, and I see,

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Speaker 6: So you have to say all of them, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: Of course, if anyone follows you on social media, they

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Speaker 1: You have to think about these things. Don't go in

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Speaker 6: It's not a list of mindset. I think I'm a

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Speaker 6: But of course Sylvie will be right up there, like

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Speaker 6: I need to think about where Sylvia if I thank

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Speaker 1: Right? Some dart points and some mirror time for you

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Speaker 1: Just finally, so in one of the videos you posted recently,

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I think they're in the newsroom. They

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Speaker 6: and I have a look. I don't know. I know

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, if you do win this weekend, where are

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Speaker 6: You're asking you all these questions about that. I well,

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Speaker 6: I think Sylvie thinks she's going to melt it down

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Speaker 6: Yep, that's fair idea. My idea would be to put

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Speaker 1: Great.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I feel it might end up like Sam Johnson's which

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Speaker 6: Perhaps, Yeah, maybe on the bottot of the car I

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Speaker 1: Maybe get it made into a necklace. You could wear

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, like a Snoop Dogg thing. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: Idea, perfect all right. Can't wait to see the bling

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Speaker 1: after Sunday. Good luck, Larry, will wish you the best.

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Speaker 1: You've been part of our TV family for a very

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Speaker 6: Oh that's true, lovel Thank you, Claire.

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Speaker 1: Taking home a gold Logi can be a career changer

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Speaker 1: So if you want to hand Laz his first ever statue,

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