1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:13,465 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,505 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,425 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:19,425 --> 00:00:21,625 Speaker 1: Hey you bees lee here now. 5 00:00:21,665 --> 00:00:23,825 Speaker 2: If you're looking for a little bit of weekend style 6 00:00:23,945 --> 00:00:26,905 Speaker 2: inspo for your Sunday, I'm here to help. And if 7 00:00:26,945 --> 00:00:30,265 Speaker 2: you're not familiar, I host another Mumma mea podcast. It's 8 00:00:30,305 --> 00:00:33,105 Speaker 2: called Nothing to Wear, and it's all about feeling great 9 00:00:33,225 --> 00:00:35,865 Speaker 2: in our clothes. And each week I speak to some 10 00:00:35,985 --> 00:00:40,425 Speaker 2: incredible guests. We talk about fashion, personal style, tips and tricks, 11 00:00:40,465 --> 00:00:43,825 Speaker 2: the best things to buy, and often the lessons overlap 12 00:00:43,905 --> 00:00:47,625 Speaker 2: with beauty. So take a listen to this recent episode, 13 00:00:47,705 --> 00:00:51,105 Speaker 2: I spoke to a very knowledgeable fashion commentator to help 14 00:00:51,145 --> 00:00:56,105 Speaker 2: break down some designer fashion pieces and offer affordable alternatives 15 00:00:56,145 --> 00:00:58,865 Speaker 2: that give you the same style but for lots less money. 16 00:00:59,145 --> 00:01:00,905 Speaker 2: And if there's one thing I know, it's that our 17 00:01:01,065 --> 00:01:04,465 Speaker 2: ubi's love budget items just as good as the bougie ones. 18 00:01:04,665 --> 00:01:08,665 Speaker 1: So I hope you enjoy. Whoever said orange is the 19 00:01:08,705 --> 00:01:10,905 Speaker 1: new pink with to serapy. 20 00:01:10,585 --> 00:01:12,945 Speaker 3: Laurels for spring groundbreaking? 21 00:01:13,225 --> 00:01:14,425 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have. 22 00:01:14,505 --> 00:01:16,265 Speaker 3: To do it. You live for fashion. 23 00:01:17,785 --> 00:01:21,025 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 24 00:01:21,105 --> 00:01:23,185 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels. 25 00:01:22,945 --> 00:01:24,145 Speaker 1: Up all our wardrobes. 26 00:01:24,505 --> 00:01:27,105 Speaker 2: I'm Lee Campbell, and every week I chat to an 27 00:01:27,105 --> 00:01:29,465 Speaker 2: expert who helps us work out how to get more 28 00:01:29,505 --> 00:01:31,905 Speaker 2: out of the clothes we already own and tells us 29 00:01:31,985 --> 00:01:35,265 Speaker 2: exactly what is and isn't worth adding to our wardrobes. 30 00:01:35,905 --> 00:01:39,305 Speaker 2: Almost every piece we wear today tracess back to a 31 00:01:39,425 --> 00:01:43,385 Speaker 2: high fashion origin. Parata releases a bag and then suddenly 32 00:01:43,425 --> 00:01:47,665 Speaker 2: there are dupes or fakes or inspired by pieces popping 33 00:01:47,705 --> 00:01:50,385 Speaker 2: up in stores like H and M, Cottonon or Zara. 34 00:01:51,025 --> 00:01:54,665 Speaker 2: You've probably even bought a designer inspired piece without even 35 00:01:54,705 --> 00:01:58,785 Speaker 2: realizing it. This journey from designer to dupe is perfectly 36 00:01:59,025 --> 00:02:01,505 Speaker 2: captured in a scene from The Devil Wears Prata. 37 00:02:02,265 --> 00:02:05,825 Speaker 3: You go to your closet and you select I don't 38 00:02:05,825 --> 00:02:09,185 Speaker 3: know that lumpy blue sweater, for instance, because you're trying 39 00:02:09,185 --> 00:02:11,985 Speaker 3: to tell the world that you take yourself too seriously 40 00:02:12,025 --> 00:02:13,825 Speaker 3: to care about what you put on your back. But 41 00:02:14,425 --> 00:02:16,385 Speaker 3: what you don't know is that that sweater is not 42 00:02:16,545 --> 00:02:19,705 Speaker 3: just blue, it's actually Cerulian. In two thousand and two, 43 00:02:19,745 --> 00:02:22,665 Speaker 3: Hospital Rena did a collection of Cerulian gowns, and then 44 00:02:22,705 --> 00:02:25,265 Speaker 3: I think it was Eve Slaurent, wasn't it who showed 45 00:02:25,305 --> 00:02:28,625 Speaker 3: Cerrilian military jackets, and then Cerulian quickly showed up in 46 00:02:28,665 --> 00:02:31,825 Speaker 3: the collections of eight different designers. I'm going to filter 47 00:02:31,985 --> 00:02:35,825 Speaker 3: down through the department stores and then trickled on down 48 00:02:35,865 --> 00:02:38,985 Speaker 3: into some tragic casual corner where you no doubt fished 49 00:02:38,985 --> 00:02:41,985 Speaker 3: it out of some clearance binhummical. How do you think 50 00:02:41,985 --> 00:02:43,985 Speaker 3: that you've made a choice that exempts you from the 51 00:02:44,025 --> 00:02:46,505 Speaker 3: fashion industry when in fact you're wearing a sweater that 52 00:02:46,585 --> 00:02:48,905 Speaker 3: was selected for you by the people in this room. 53 00:02:49,785 --> 00:02:54,705 Speaker 2: To trace designer expensive fashion to wearable and affordable items, 54 00:02:54,985 --> 00:02:58,825 Speaker 2: we have fashion commentator Glynnis trail Nash joining me. 55 00:02:59,265 --> 00:03:00,545 Speaker 1: Firstly, welcome back. 56 00:03:00,625 --> 00:03:02,825 Speaker 2: The last time I had you here, we did that 57 00:03:02,985 --> 00:03:05,585 Speaker 2: very special met Gala episode, but I didn't get to 58 00:03:05,705 --> 00:03:10,865 Speaker 2: ask my opening questions, so I'm so excited. You describe 59 00:03:10,905 --> 00:03:12,545 Speaker 2: your style in three words. 60 00:03:12,985 --> 00:03:15,225 Speaker 4: Oh, I've struggled over this. I won't lie. 61 00:03:15,345 --> 00:03:18,425 Speaker 1: I was going to say off the floor, Okay, I 62 00:03:18,585 --> 00:03:19,105 Speaker 1: like that. 63 00:03:19,105 --> 00:03:21,745 Speaker 4: Which is actually probably more technically off the chair whatever 64 00:03:21,785 --> 00:03:26,625 Speaker 4: I threw on the chair from the day before basket. Yeah, yeah, 65 00:03:26,785 --> 00:03:30,425 Speaker 4: it's kind of something like that. Really, despite I don't 66 00:03:30,465 --> 00:03:32,425 Speaker 4: know if people think, because of what I do might 67 00:03:32,465 --> 00:03:37,505 Speaker 4: be you're always impossibly Well that's really nice because I 68 00:03:37,545 --> 00:03:40,785 Speaker 4: feel like my default setting is slob. You don't ever 69 00:03:40,825 --> 00:03:42,745 Speaker 4: want to see me around the house. Let me just 70 00:03:42,785 --> 00:03:45,025 Speaker 4: put it that way. I actually change about five times 71 00:03:45,025 --> 00:03:45,385 Speaker 4: a day. 72 00:03:45,585 --> 00:03:46,345 Speaker 1: I change a lot too. 73 00:03:46,385 --> 00:03:47,945 Speaker 2: I call it my after school close as soon as 74 00:03:47,945 --> 00:03:49,145 Speaker 2: I get home after take it everything off. 75 00:03:49,185 --> 00:03:50,705 Speaker 1: Traxy, pant hair back. 76 00:03:50,905 --> 00:03:52,345 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a bit like that. 77 00:03:52,545 --> 00:03:56,225 Speaker 2: Not good trax yea no, but you have three words 78 00:03:56,225 --> 00:03:57,145 Speaker 2: that aren't off the chair. 79 00:03:57,265 --> 00:03:59,585 Speaker 4: I can do quirky, I can do maximalists. It could be, 80 00:03:59,665 --> 00:04:01,825 Speaker 4: in fact minimalist through maximalist. 81 00:04:01,985 --> 00:04:02,665 Speaker 1: I like that. 82 00:04:02,905 --> 00:04:05,545 Speaker 4: I loved ninety style even though I was a vintage 83 00:04:05,625 --> 00:04:08,865 Speaker 4: kid growing up. I liked that a lot. That minimalist, black, 84 00:04:08,985 --> 00:04:10,025 Speaker 4: pared back kind of thing. 85 00:04:10,145 --> 00:04:11,905 Speaker 2: Nineties is back, but not that kind of nineties like 86 00:04:11,945 --> 00:04:12,865 Speaker 2: butterfly clips. 87 00:04:12,985 --> 00:04:14,305 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they are one. 88 00:04:14,385 --> 00:04:17,385 Speaker 2: I'm going to give you three words quirky, expensive, you 89 00:04:17,425 --> 00:04:19,065 Speaker 2: look really yeah. 90 00:04:18,945 --> 00:04:21,025 Speaker 1: I think I look and original? 91 00:04:21,185 --> 00:04:23,425 Speaker 4: Oh good? Oh I like that. Okay, great, thanks. 92 00:04:23,465 --> 00:04:24,545 Speaker 1: A theory that rings true. 93 00:04:24,545 --> 00:04:26,225 Speaker 2: We've got a wardrobe full of clothes, but we wear 94 00:04:26,305 --> 00:04:29,145 Speaker 2: a core ninety percent of the time, So the trusty 95 00:04:29,185 --> 00:04:31,225 Speaker 2: stuff we reach for that makes us feel like us 96 00:04:31,225 --> 00:04:32,265 Speaker 2: that we love to wear. 97 00:04:32,505 --> 00:04:33,665 Speaker 1: What's in your ten percent? 98 00:04:33,785 --> 00:04:38,305 Speaker 4: It would be jeans, a silk shirt, a blazer. It'd 99 00:04:38,305 --> 00:04:42,665 Speaker 4: either be trainers or maybe a more polished shoe. But 100 00:04:43,145 --> 00:04:45,505 Speaker 4: that's kind of my default setting. If I have to 101 00:04:45,545 --> 00:04:48,585 Speaker 4: look presentable, I might swap out the jeans with. 102 00:04:48,545 --> 00:04:50,785 Speaker 1: A black trouser but comfortable as well. 103 00:04:50,865 --> 00:04:54,305 Speaker 4: Yeah, but that shirt and blazer thing, it's just almost 104 00:04:54,345 --> 00:04:55,545 Speaker 4: like a bit of a uniform for me. 105 00:04:55,745 --> 00:04:57,305 Speaker 1: Yes, which is very useful. 106 00:04:57,385 --> 00:05:01,505 Speaker 2: This episode, we wanted to talk about how big global 107 00:05:01,545 --> 00:05:04,145 Speaker 2: brands sort of set the trends and whilst they may 108 00:05:04,265 --> 00:05:07,305 Speaker 2: seem completely unobtainable for the average person, let's face out. 109 00:05:07,345 --> 00:05:10,465 Speaker 2: A lot of those priced tags are they have somehow 110 00:05:10,625 --> 00:05:14,905 Speaker 2: influenced almost every item in our wardrobe. I've selected a 111 00:05:14,905 --> 00:05:17,665 Speaker 2: bunch of items that I feel like I've identified that 112 00:05:17,745 --> 00:05:20,025 Speaker 2: have started off here in terms of price and trickled down. 113 00:05:20,305 --> 00:05:22,545 Speaker 1: All right, I want to start with woven leather bags. 114 00:05:22,585 --> 00:05:27,025 Speaker 2: Now, the botakea Vanetta weave is called interesting. How do 115 00:05:27,105 --> 00:05:31,945 Speaker 2: I even say that? Okay, thank you? So Botaga was 116 00:05:32,025 --> 00:05:33,825 Speaker 2: around forever, not that long. 117 00:05:33,905 --> 00:05:35,625 Speaker 4: Do you know this is a funny thing. It's only 118 00:05:35,745 --> 00:05:37,025 Speaker 4: in the sixties it was founded. 119 00:05:37,185 --> 00:05:39,265 Speaker 1: But did it get cool again like eight years ago 120 00:05:39,345 --> 00:05:39,745 Speaker 1: or something. 121 00:05:39,825 --> 00:05:42,425 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's in recent years it's really had kind of 122 00:05:42,465 --> 00:05:45,305 Speaker 4: an uptick again. I mean I sort of came into 123 00:05:45,345 --> 00:05:47,265 Speaker 4: it really in terms of when I started writing fashion 124 00:05:47,265 --> 00:05:49,665 Speaker 4: when Thomas Meyer was in charge, and then he was 125 00:05:49,705 --> 00:05:51,505 Speaker 4: there for quite a while, then Daniel Lee took over 126 00:05:51,545 --> 00:05:55,145 Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen, then Matthieur Blasi in twenty twenty one. 127 00:05:55,345 --> 00:05:58,065 Speaker 2: So was it twenty eighteen when we saw the revival 128 00:05:58,145 --> 00:05:59,905 Speaker 2: Do you think, like, oh, did it just come back 129 00:05:59,945 --> 00:06:00,745 Speaker 2: on my radar? 130 00:06:01,385 --> 00:06:04,545 Speaker 4: Maybe it's kind of gone on and up with I 131 00:06:04,625 --> 00:06:08,065 Speaker 4: never said it word trajectory, but Thomas Meyer was still 132 00:06:08,185 --> 00:06:12,225 Speaker 4: doing really great stuff. But that intricciato woven leather thing 133 00:06:12,305 --> 00:06:14,705 Speaker 4: has always been a signature of the brand. It is 134 00:06:15,065 --> 00:06:17,785 Speaker 4: what they are best known for. Yes, and you know, 135 00:06:17,865 --> 00:06:19,905 Speaker 4: these things kind of ebb and flow over the years, 136 00:06:19,945 --> 00:06:20,425 Speaker 4: but it. 137 00:06:20,345 --> 00:06:22,905 Speaker 2: Has, Yeah, and it's been around I reckon for like 138 00:06:23,305 --> 00:06:25,705 Speaker 2: a good five years now. Where you can tell ap 139 00:06:25,705 --> 00:06:27,745 Speaker 2: a tag a bag on a fancy person on Instagram, 140 00:06:27,825 --> 00:06:30,265 Speaker 2: it's that beautiful woven leather. You can get little clutches 141 00:06:30,305 --> 00:06:33,065 Speaker 2: and huge oversized bags and you know, I'm looking at 142 00:06:33,145 --> 00:06:37,145 Speaker 2: their large hop, that's six four hundred dollars. If you're 143 00:06:37,185 --> 00:06:39,225 Speaker 2: going to buy the real deal, let me open another one, 144 00:06:39,345 --> 00:06:42,905 Speaker 2: just for interest's sake. The Mini Jody, which I think 145 00:06:42,985 --> 00:06:44,505 Speaker 2: is probably like the most iconic. 146 00:06:44,545 --> 00:06:47,105 Speaker 1: It's like a little bag making a shape of people. 147 00:06:47,425 --> 00:06:48,945 Speaker 2: It's a little leather bag with a handle and a 148 00:06:49,025 --> 00:06:51,585 Speaker 2: nott and it's that woven stuff. That's four two hundred 149 00:06:51,585 --> 00:06:54,905 Speaker 2: dollars for i'd almost call an evening bag. Has that 150 00:06:55,065 --> 00:07:01,505 Speaker 2: woven can you say it again? Influenced everything in terms 151 00:07:01,545 --> 00:07:03,105 Speaker 2: of woven leather and bags, do you think? 152 00:07:03,265 --> 00:07:03,465 Speaker 1: Oh? 153 00:07:03,505 --> 00:07:06,065 Speaker 4: For sure. You know, as you said, with luxury brands, 154 00:07:06,065 --> 00:07:11,225 Speaker 4: the prices are inaccessible to many, many, many people. These 155 00:07:11,225 --> 00:07:14,505 Speaker 4: things do trickle down. I mean, I'm very wary of dups. Obviously, 156 00:07:14,545 --> 00:07:16,825 Speaker 4: I have to be in my job. Obviously you can 157 00:07:17,185 --> 00:07:19,545 Speaker 4: be inspired by and as long as it's got enough 158 00:07:19,585 --> 00:07:22,625 Speaker 4: points of difference, I think that's tolerable. 159 00:07:23,025 --> 00:07:25,345 Speaker 2: Yes, No, that's a that's a good way to put 160 00:07:25,345 --> 00:07:28,065 Speaker 2: it on, because you know, if there's a Bataga label 161 00:07:28,065 --> 00:07:29,665 Speaker 2: on it and it's fake, that's different. 162 00:07:29,905 --> 00:07:31,065 Speaker 4: That's super bad. Yeah. 163 00:07:31,185 --> 00:07:34,385 Speaker 2: I found a few, let's say inspired by. They're not 164 00:07:34,425 --> 00:07:37,425 Speaker 2: claiming to be the designer brand. There's a brand on 165 00:07:37,505 --> 00:07:40,825 Speaker 2: the iconic called brie Leon, so it's called the Luca 166 00:07:41,185 --> 00:07:43,665 Speaker 2: Mini Bag, whereas the real one's called the Mini Jodi 167 00:07:43,865 --> 00:07:45,825 Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty dollars. It comes to a beautiful 168 00:07:45,865 --> 00:07:48,105 Speaker 2: chocolate brown, it comes in a black, and it comes 169 00:07:48,185 --> 00:07:50,505 Speaker 2: in a hot pink. It's not trying to be the same, 170 00:07:50,545 --> 00:07:54,225 Speaker 2: but it's very much that very classic iconic Potago weave. 171 00:07:54,465 --> 00:07:55,305 Speaker 1: If you do want that. 172 00:07:55,265 --> 00:07:56,945 Speaker 2: Look, I quite like it because you know it's not 173 00:07:56,985 --> 00:07:59,225 Speaker 2: trying to scream a logo or have sort of some 174 00:07:59,265 --> 00:08:02,385 Speaker 2: sort of flashy patterns, not ripping off the berbery. Where 175 00:08:02,425 --> 00:08:05,465 Speaker 2: is the line where it's like that is trying to 176 00:08:05,505 --> 00:08:07,385 Speaker 2: be I've heard they've got to change of design by 177 00:08:07,425 --> 00:08:07,865 Speaker 2: twenty percent. 178 00:08:07,945 --> 00:08:10,305 Speaker 4: There's there. Yeah, and I'd have to up again on 179 00:08:10,345 --> 00:08:13,985 Speaker 4: the actual realities the legalities of it, so don't fully 180 00:08:14,065 --> 00:08:16,305 Speaker 4: quote me on any of this, but yeah, you have 181 00:08:16,385 --> 00:08:18,585 Speaker 4: to have at least a certain amount of points of 182 00:08:18,585 --> 00:08:21,905 Speaker 4: difference in an item. Has to be significant enough. Yes 183 00:08:21,985 --> 00:08:23,145 Speaker 4: that you can't. 184 00:08:23,065 --> 00:08:24,905 Speaker 1: And I guess that's subjective as well asn't. 185 00:08:24,785 --> 00:08:27,025 Speaker 4: Well until you get into a court of law yet. 186 00:08:27,105 --> 00:08:29,705 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then someone decides, and that's the thing it 187 00:08:29,705 --> 00:08:32,065 Speaker 2: can be lateidgious, but I think to be inspired by is, 188 00:08:32,105 --> 00:08:34,865 Speaker 2: you know, the democratization of fashion in a way, as 189 00:08:34,865 --> 00:08:37,345 Speaker 2: long as it's done in their own way, and it's 190 00:08:37,385 --> 00:08:39,585 Speaker 2: kind of a nod and appreciation rather than a roof 191 00:08:39,625 --> 00:08:42,185 Speaker 2: off anything else we need to know about beautiful Partager. 192 00:08:42,305 --> 00:08:43,865 Speaker 4: It's obviously on a bit of a new thing. I 193 00:08:43,865 --> 00:08:46,265 Speaker 4: actually know something I did learn actually when I was 194 00:08:46,265 --> 00:08:50,265 Speaker 4: doing some research for this was that in nineteen eighty, 195 00:08:50,505 --> 00:08:55,105 Speaker 4: Lauren Hutton appeared in American Jiglow with a Potager bag, 196 00:08:55,265 --> 00:08:59,745 Speaker 4: which they then released, re released and called it Lauren Wow. 197 00:08:59,985 --> 00:09:01,065 Speaker 1: I need to watch that movie. 198 00:09:01,225 --> 00:09:03,465 Speaker 4: I love Lauren Hutton. I love Lauren Hutton because you 199 00:09:03,465 --> 00:09:06,185 Speaker 4: think American Jiggolow, I automatically just think amani. 200 00:09:06,385 --> 00:09:07,705 Speaker 1: You know, well I don't. 201 00:09:07,985 --> 00:09:10,465 Speaker 2: Now I've to watch it and think both those things, 202 00:09:11,145 --> 00:09:13,305 Speaker 2: all right. The next one, I think is one of 203 00:09:13,305 --> 00:09:16,785 Speaker 2: the most iconic items. I love these. I have a 204 00:09:16,825 --> 00:09:19,665 Speaker 2: real pair and I have a inspired by pair. The 205 00:09:19,865 --> 00:09:21,985 Speaker 2: Chanelle two Tones slingbacks. 206 00:09:22,385 --> 00:09:24,385 Speaker 4: This is an absolute classic, isn't. 207 00:09:24,225 --> 00:09:26,985 Speaker 2: It a classic? It's a beautiful shoe. It's comfortable. The 208 00:09:27,025 --> 00:09:30,065 Speaker 2: Beijian Black one thousand, eight hund and thirty dollars. I 209 00:09:30,065 --> 00:09:33,225 Speaker 2: would rather spend that on a shoe than six thousand. 210 00:09:32,985 --> 00:09:34,945 Speaker 4: Dollars in a bag, I kind of agree. 211 00:09:35,425 --> 00:09:36,985 Speaker 2: And a comfortable shoe that youre gonna wear all the time. 212 00:09:37,065 --> 00:09:40,105 Speaker 2: Still two thousand dollars. Do you know much about this style? 213 00:09:40,505 --> 00:09:43,105 Speaker 4: This was introduced in nineteen fifty seven, and what I 214 00:09:43,145 --> 00:09:46,185 Speaker 4: love about the sling back style. The whole point of 215 00:09:46,225 --> 00:09:50,025 Speaker 4: this was that the beige color elongates the foot, but 216 00:09:50,105 --> 00:09:52,665 Speaker 4: the black makes it shortens it, if you know what 217 00:09:52,665 --> 00:09:54,665 Speaker 4: I mean. So it's slim but shorter, so you've got 218 00:09:54,705 --> 00:09:55,905 Speaker 4: a more petite foot. 219 00:09:55,945 --> 00:09:59,345 Speaker 2: Size forty same I do sometimes look down with, you know, 220 00:09:59,385 --> 00:10:01,225 Speaker 2: a smaller heel and a point and go goodness, So 221 00:10:01,265 --> 00:10:02,905 Speaker 2: it is my feet went so long, and so that's 222 00:10:02,945 --> 00:10:04,785 Speaker 2: it's a it's a visual thing. 223 00:10:04,825 --> 00:10:08,465 Speaker 4: And also apparently the black was to also help stop 224 00:10:08,505 --> 00:10:11,465 Speaker 4: the sort of scuffing that you get on on the hill. Yeah, exactly. 225 00:10:11,545 --> 00:10:13,945 Speaker 4: That is so clever to make it less obvious, right. 226 00:10:13,985 --> 00:10:14,585 Speaker 1: Yes, of course. 227 00:10:15,385 --> 00:10:17,465 Speaker 4: And also a modest heel, so it's a five centimeter 228 00:10:17,545 --> 00:10:21,905 Speaker 4: heel originally, so comfortable hill and not point to. Yeah. 229 00:10:22,025 --> 00:10:23,585 Speaker 2: I can see why it's in the inspiration for so 230 00:10:23,585 --> 00:10:26,305 Speaker 2: many other brands. But you cannot go into a shoe 231 00:10:26,345 --> 00:10:29,105 Speaker 2: store or on a shoe website without finding Oh yeah, 232 00:10:29,105 --> 00:10:32,825 Speaker 2: they're everywhere some inspiration. Ye again, they don't have Chanelle 233 00:10:33,025 --> 00:10:34,825 Speaker 2: all over it. They just kind of have that beautiful 234 00:10:34,825 --> 00:10:37,825 Speaker 2: two tone, classic shape the brand on the iconic Atmosphon. 235 00:10:37,865 --> 00:10:39,345 Speaker 1: Here they do one. It's real leather. 236 00:10:39,785 --> 00:10:43,745 Speaker 2: It's called the Pamela Leather heels pretty similar, so you 237 00:10:43,785 --> 00:10:45,385 Speaker 2: can get an affordable option if you want that. 238 00:10:45,385 --> 00:10:48,185 Speaker 1: Look, how would you style a shoe like this? 239 00:10:48,665 --> 00:10:50,385 Speaker 4: I think one of the point of a shoe like 240 00:10:50,465 --> 00:10:54,665 Speaker 4: this is that it can go with almost anything, Like 241 00:10:54,745 --> 00:10:59,265 Speaker 4: you would wear that with jeans or a skirt dress. 242 00:10:59,465 --> 00:11:01,425 Speaker 4: I mean, it's very classic. You're not going to wear 243 00:11:01,425 --> 00:11:03,785 Speaker 4: them with something that's a little bit more out there. No, 244 00:11:04,265 --> 00:11:06,425 Speaker 4: maybe not a hyper patterned outfit. 245 00:11:06,825 --> 00:11:09,145 Speaker 2: Like a fluoro green something, but you could do it 246 00:11:09,265 --> 00:11:16,745 Speaker 2: a slug or yeah, slack Frock and Belini have an 247 00:11:16,785 --> 00:11:21,185 Speaker 2: even more affordable pair called the Hassar Pecan Black Shoe 248 00:11:21,225 --> 00:11:22,905 Speaker 2: seventy nine ninety five. Not sure if they were love, 249 00:11:23,025 --> 00:11:27,105 Speaker 2: They've got other options as well. Okay, Cartier Love Bracelet. 250 00:11:28,105 --> 00:11:30,905 Speaker 2: Tell me about this bracelet. It's locked on you forever. 251 00:11:31,225 --> 00:11:33,905 Speaker 4: You can unlock it it's the lovely little bracelet. It's 252 00:11:34,065 --> 00:11:36,585 Speaker 4: oval shape, so it sits very snugly around your wrist. 253 00:11:36,625 --> 00:11:40,345 Speaker 4: And the idea, this is fantastic. This story Aldo Chippulo, 254 00:11:40,545 --> 00:11:42,945 Speaker 4: who was an Italian jewelry designer but based he moved 255 00:11:42,945 --> 00:11:45,625 Speaker 4: to New York. He had done a lot of work 256 00:11:45,665 --> 00:11:47,985 Speaker 4: actually for Tiffany and Co. And he presented this to 257 00:11:48,025 --> 00:11:50,705 Speaker 4: Tiffany and Co. And they didn't want it. Wow, So 258 00:11:50,785 --> 00:11:52,265 Speaker 4: he took it to Cartier. 259 00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:52,945 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 260 00:11:53,105 --> 00:11:56,665 Speaker 4: Cartier said, yeah, so I love that story. And so 261 00:11:56,745 --> 00:11:58,865 Speaker 4: the idea was that there were two of them, so 262 00:11:58,905 --> 00:12:01,865 Speaker 4: they gifted a few very chic couples at the time. 263 00:12:02,825 --> 00:12:05,385 Speaker 4: And when was this, you know, this was nineteen sixty 264 00:12:05,465 --> 00:12:07,545 Speaker 4: nine he designed it, I think, So we're talking sixty 265 00:12:07,585 --> 00:12:11,585 Speaker 4: nine early seventies couples back. Yeah, I know a thing, right, 266 00:12:11,905 --> 00:12:13,625 Speaker 4: But the idea is anyway, it's got the little screws 267 00:12:13,665 --> 00:12:15,305 Speaker 4: all around it, and to put it on and off, 268 00:12:15,345 --> 00:12:17,225 Speaker 4: take it on and put it on and take it off. 269 00:12:17,265 --> 00:12:19,225 Speaker 4: You have to have a little screwdriver that comes with it. 270 00:12:19,505 --> 00:12:20,345 Speaker 1: Oh, it's very cute. 271 00:12:20,385 --> 00:12:22,825 Speaker 2: One or two other screws are actual functional. Hence the 272 00:12:22,905 --> 00:12:24,385 Speaker 2: love because you lock it on me, I lock. 273 00:12:24,305 --> 00:12:27,025 Speaker 4: It on you you lovely, So it's like it's not 274 00:12:27,065 --> 00:12:30,305 Speaker 4: only simple and chic and quite minimal, it's also kind 275 00:12:30,345 --> 00:12:32,745 Speaker 4: of symbolic. And so the idea is near, if you're 276 00:12:32,745 --> 00:12:35,065 Speaker 4: a couple, you each wear one and this is symbolizing 277 00:12:35,065 --> 00:12:37,305 Speaker 4: your love and you can't take it off until you 278 00:12:37,505 --> 00:12:40,705 Speaker 4: and someone else has to help you because you almost 279 00:12:40,745 --> 00:12:41,785 Speaker 4: can't do it yourself. 280 00:12:41,945 --> 00:12:45,105 Speaker 2: So the love racelet size small, which is a thinner 281 00:12:45,185 --> 00:12:47,985 Speaker 2: kind of thing. No diamonds, because I've seen these diamonds 282 00:12:48,025 --> 00:12:49,545 Speaker 2: seven seven. 283 00:12:49,305 --> 00:12:51,385 Speaker 1: And fifty dollars Australian. 284 00:12:51,185 --> 00:12:53,105 Speaker 2: Absolutely beautiful, absolutely out. 285 00:12:52,945 --> 00:12:53,985 Speaker 1: Of my price range. 286 00:12:54,105 --> 00:12:57,785 Speaker 2: I have seen some inspired vice everywhere, and I knew 287 00:12:57,785 --> 00:12:59,985 Speaker 2: where this one was from because I knew I'd seen 288 00:13:00,425 --> 00:13:01,945 Speaker 2: a few friends or a few friends had kind of 289 00:13:01,945 --> 00:13:04,425 Speaker 2: got them for their fortieth or weddings, so I knew 290 00:13:04,425 --> 00:13:06,345 Speaker 2: what it was. And then when you see the dupes, 291 00:13:06,345 --> 00:13:09,465 Speaker 2: you're like because a brand called Queen and Cot Melbourne, 292 00:13:09,465 --> 00:13:12,985 Speaker 2: the Magnum bracelet, it just has a hinge. 293 00:13:13,305 --> 00:13:14,785 Speaker 1: You don't get a screwdriver a lock. 294 00:13:14,825 --> 00:13:17,145 Speaker 2: It's ninety five dollars and it does have what I 295 00:13:17,145 --> 00:13:19,625 Speaker 2: would assume to be faux diamonds. 296 00:13:19,145 --> 00:13:20,305 Speaker 4: So quite similar. 297 00:13:20,465 --> 00:13:22,745 Speaker 2: Yes, Then Daniel Wellington, which is, I think is a 298 00:13:22,745 --> 00:13:24,865 Speaker 2: watch brand. This is a little bit more inspired by 299 00:13:24,945 --> 00:13:26,745 Speaker 2: It's more of a cuff because it's got that little 300 00:13:26,905 --> 00:13:28,225 Speaker 2: gas which you call a cuff. 301 00:13:28,265 --> 00:13:31,385 Speaker 4: I'd call it a bangle actually, but an open bangle, yes. 302 00:13:31,265 --> 00:13:31,865 Speaker 1: Open bangle. 303 00:13:31,905 --> 00:13:34,745 Speaker 2: So they call it the classic Loomine bracelet in small 304 00:13:34,785 --> 00:13:38,105 Speaker 2: and it comes in goodness me gold, silver. Oh, there's 305 00:13:38,185 --> 00:13:41,305 Speaker 2: lots of options. That's on the iconics. So I knew 306 00:13:41,345 --> 00:13:43,905 Speaker 2: what the love racelet was. I feel quite fancy knowing that. 307 00:13:44,825 --> 00:13:47,185 Speaker 2: And Cartier and Cardier are some beautiful they've got that. 308 00:13:47,505 --> 00:13:49,185 Speaker 2: Is it a nail, Yeah. 309 00:13:49,265 --> 00:13:52,865 Speaker 4: Yes, justin cou is the style of just like a 310 00:13:52,945 --> 00:13:54,065 Speaker 4: nail that's curved around here. 311 00:13:54,145 --> 00:13:55,185 Speaker 1: Yes, that's beautiful. 312 00:13:55,465 --> 00:13:57,505 Speaker 4: The other thing that he was inspired by the screws 313 00:13:57,585 --> 00:14:00,545 Speaker 4: also because of that, which maybe this came after the 314 00:14:00,585 --> 00:14:04,105 Speaker 4: Tiffany thing. I'm not sure, but Cardier has on that watch. 315 00:14:04,225 --> 00:14:07,025 Speaker 4: It has those screws on the watch face, so that 316 00:14:07,145 --> 00:14:08,745 Speaker 4: kind of tied in with the bracelets. 317 00:14:08,785 --> 00:14:14,585 Speaker 2: So and now like screws nails bit workshop. Yeah. 318 00:14:14,665 --> 00:14:18,025 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was apparently very inspired by industrial kind of stuff. 319 00:14:18,065 --> 00:14:31,505 Speaker 2: Oh, you learn something new every day. Valentino rock stud 320 00:14:31,865 --> 00:14:34,305 Speaker 2: This is well, there's more than one star there's heels, 321 00:14:34,305 --> 00:14:35,345 Speaker 2: there's sandals. 322 00:14:35,505 --> 00:14:36,985 Speaker 1: Do you know much about this shoe? 323 00:14:37,145 --> 00:14:40,545 Speaker 4: The rock Stud series was launched in twenty ten. Okay, 324 00:14:40,705 --> 00:14:43,705 Speaker 4: those little studs are based on something called a bugnato, 325 00:14:44,545 --> 00:14:48,665 Speaker 4: which is like an Italian masonry thing like in walls. 326 00:14:48,825 --> 00:14:52,185 Speaker 4: Oh and you can see it like it's quite like 327 00:14:52,265 --> 00:14:53,985 Speaker 4: really old, so but that it's some more modern designs 328 00:14:54,025 --> 00:14:56,265 Speaker 4: have done and it is. It's that square edged kind of. 329 00:14:56,225 --> 00:14:57,785 Speaker 1: It looks like a teeny tiny pyramid. 330 00:14:57,945 --> 00:15:01,785 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, seen from above. Yeah, so it's actually a 331 00:15:01,785 --> 00:15:08,945 Speaker 4: wall thing. Okay, that m yes Roman hence Valentino liked it. 332 00:15:09,145 --> 00:15:10,705 Speaker 4: So yeah, this is really taken off and this is 333 00:15:10,745 --> 00:15:14,625 Speaker 4: part of their ongoing thing on all sorts of shoes, ballet, 334 00:15:14,665 --> 00:15:18,465 Speaker 4: flat heels, hand bags, you name it. Rock stud is 335 00:15:18,465 --> 00:15:20,705 Speaker 4: a thing and as a result has been. 336 00:15:21,025 --> 00:15:25,785 Speaker 2: Inspiring the whole inspiring country many people. So the Valentino 337 00:15:26,065 --> 00:15:28,985 Speaker 2: caskin rock stud sand as you know, a flat summer 338 00:15:29,025 --> 00:15:32,185 Speaker 2: sand or one thousand, five hundred and seventy dollars. Then 339 00:15:32,505 --> 00:15:35,865 Speaker 2: the heels, so the rock stud caged pump. That's where 340 00:15:35,865 --> 00:15:38,145 Speaker 2: it's more of like a point and then it goes 341 00:15:38,185 --> 00:15:38,825 Speaker 2: up around the leg. 342 00:15:38,945 --> 00:15:40,145 Speaker 1: It's quite a statement. 343 00:15:40,465 --> 00:15:43,785 Speaker 2: They are one thousand, six hundred ninety one hundred bucks 344 00:15:43,825 --> 00:15:46,225 Speaker 2: more than the sandal, although to me, I wear sandals 345 00:15:46,305 --> 00:15:49,145 Speaker 2: much more than heels. So I have seen jeeps of 346 00:15:49,185 --> 00:15:53,865 Speaker 2: these absolutely everywhere, inspired by some are lovely summer trying 347 00:15:53,905 --> 00:15:56,945 Speaker 2: to be the exact brand. There's a brand called Pinking, 348 00:15:57,025 --> 00:15:59,585 Speaker 2: which has a lot of this sort of stud detailing 349 00:15:59,585 --> 00:16:03,065 Speaker 2: a lot of their products. They have heels, they have sandals, 350 00:16:03,145 --> 00:16:07,105 Speaker 2: they have handbags. So they've got the Saint, which is 351 00:16:07,145 --> 00:16:10,105 Speaker 2: like a high heel, that's one nine ninety five. And 352 00:16:10,145 --> 00:16:11,785 Speaker 2: then they've got the Yennaires, which is more of a 353 00:16:11,825 --> 00:16:15,425 Speaker 2: ballet flat point, and that is one sixty nine ninety five. 354 00:16:15,625 --> 00:16:16,665 Speaker 4: So a tenth of the price. 355 00:16:16,865 --> 00:16:20,465 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, back to Chanell, this whole list could 356 00:16:20,465 --> 00:16:22,545 Speaker 2: have been Chanell. We could bring a flat bag. But 357 00:16:22,625 --> 00:16:25,825 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the tweed jacket. I mean, 358 00:16:25,865 --> 00:16:27,665 Speaker 2: this could be a scene out of that movie. I 359 00:16:27,705 --> 00:16:29,705 Speaker 2: think she even wears a foe Chanel. 360 00:16:30,905 --> 00:16:32,585 Speaker 4: Oh no, she wears a real Chanel. Oh does she 361 00:16:33,825 --> 00:16:36,465 Speaker 4: k Yeah, they raided the cupboard and anyone that can 362 00:16:36,545 --> 00:16:39,465 Speaker 4: just borrow I'm sorry a Chanelle's jacket from the fashion 363 00:16:39,465 --> 00:16:40,625 Speaker 4: cupboard has never worked. 364 00:16:40,905 --> 00:16:44,385 Speaker 2: Oh please, like seriously, so let's talk about the original 365 00:16:44,865 --> 00:16:47,065 Speaker 2: Chanell tweed jacket. Do you have a little history lesson 366 00:16:47,065 --> 00:16:47,265 Speaker 2: form me? 367 00:16:47,385 --> 00:16:49,505 Speaker 4: I do. The tweed jacket is an interesting one to me, 368 00:16:49,625 --> 00:16:52,465 Speaker 4: I think, because it is an iconic Chanell item, but 369 00:16:52,585 --> 00:16:55,825 Speaker 4: it is so broad now. She became enamored of tweed 370 00:16:55,865 --> 00:16:59,665 Speaker 4: in the nineteen twenties. She oh, sorry, Gabrielle Coco. Chanell 371 00:16:59,905 --> 00:17:02,705 Speaker 4: became enamored of tweed in the twenties when she was 372 00:17:03,185 --> 00:17:06,225 Speaker 4: dating the Duke of Westminster. Oh yeah, yeah. She had 373 00:17:06,225 --> 00:17:09,545 Speaker 4: some very interesting boyfriends and lovers and all the rest. 374 00:17:10,905 --> 00:17:13,745 Speaker 4: But she introduced the jacket sort of after World War Two, 375 00:17:13,905 --> 00:17:16,305 Speaker 4: which you know, don't talk about the war in regards 376 00:17:16,385 --> 00:17:19,385 Speaker 4: to Chanel. And if you've watched The New Look on 377 00:17:19,545 --> 00:17:24,105 Speaker 4: Apple TV, you will know why. Ah wow, really worth 378 00:17:24,105 --> 00:17:27,785 Speaker 4: watching those phenomenal series. When she had her comeback, which 379 00:17:27,865 --> 00:17:30,145 Speaker 4: was largely driven by the US, to be fair, because 380 00:17:30,185 --> 00:17:32,505 Speaker 4: the French kind of didn't really want that much to 381 00:17:32,505 --> 00:17:34,945 Speaker 4: do with her for some time. The tweed suit, the 382 00:17:34,945 --> 00:17:38,145 Speaker 4: skirtsuit was really one of her iconic ensembles, and so 383 00:17:38,185 --> 00:17:40,665 Speaker 4: a lot of these young actors were wearing them. A 384 00:17:40,785 --> 00:17:44,065 Speaker 4: Romy Schneider. I think even the French, some of the 385 00:17:44,105 --> 00:17:47,265 Speaker 4: French is you know, Bridgitte Bardeau. Who else was there? Oh, 386 00:17:47,345 --> 00:17:51,425 Speaker 4: Jean morrou who I love amazing, sounds very she's fabulous 387 00:17:51,425 --> 00:17:54,625 Speaker 4: French actress, this fantastic voice. So that became a thing. 388 00:17:54,625 --> 00:17:57,385 Speaker 4: But what's interesting also is that it's popularity when Carl 389 00:17:57,505 --> 00:18:00,105 Speaker 4: Lagerfeld started at Chanel in the eighties, Like, I mean, 390 00:18:00,145 --> 00:18:02,465 Speaker 4: it's always been a house signature, but he really embraced 391 00:18:02,465 --> 00:18:04,825 Speaker 4: this and so it was big in the eighties. It 392 00:18:04,905 --> 00:18:07,665 Speaker 4: was big like nineties supermodels. They were all wearing them 393 00:18:07,665 --> 00:18:08,705 Speaker 4: with jeans or whatever. 394 00:18:08,825 --> 00:18:10,385 Speaker 1: Like it's really darling it down. 395 00:18:10,465 --> 00:18:13,825 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I guess the signature things like even though 396 00:18:13,865 --> 00:18:16,465 Speaker 4: Chanelle has done the tweed jacket in many silhouettes and 397 00:18:16,505 --> 00:18:19,465 Speaker 4: styles over the years, I mean the classic what we 398 00:18:19,625 --> 00:18:21,865 Speaker 4: think of when we think of a Chanell tweed jacket 399 00:18:21,905 --> 00:18:25,545 Speaker 4: is that boxy cut. Yes, usually it has gold buttons. Yes, 400 00:18:25,625 --> 00:18:28,585 Speaker 4: it might have some braiding. And what you won't notice 401 00:18:28,625 --> 00:18:30,425 Speaker 4: about it until you have a real one in your 402 00:18:30,465 --> 00:18:33,745 Speaker 4: hand is that the hem has a chain stitched into 403 00:18:33,785 --> 00:18:35,385 Speaker 4: it so that it hangs. 404 00:18:36,305 --> 00:18:37,425 Speaker 1: That's so clever. 405 00:18:37,705 --> 00:18:39,985 Speaker 4: Yeah, just to add some weight to that hem. 406 00:18:40,185 --> 00:18:41,185 Speaker 1: That's fascinating. 407 00:18:41,185 --> 00:18:42,545 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think I'll ever have one in my 408 00:18:42,585 --> 00:18:44,305 Speaker 2: hand because I'm looking at a current season one on 409 00:18:44,305 --> 00:18:47,745 Speaker 2: the Schnell website. It is thirteen two hundred and sixty dollars. 410 00:18:48,025 --> 00:18:49,105 Speaker 2: It looks like a work of art. 411 00:18:49,385 --> 00:18:51,625 Speaker 1: Now, I think Tweed is an interesting one because I 412 00:18:51,625 --> 00:18:52,985 Speaker 1: mean Tweed being or of. 413 00:18:52,905 --> 00:18:56,065 Speaker 2: A fabricrick, it's kind of easier to do inspired okay, 414 00:18:56,585 --> 00:18:58,905 Speaker 2: and other stories is a beautiful UK brand that I love, 415 00:18:58,905 --> 00:19:00,665 Speaker 2: and this is all the Iconic. It's called the boxy 416 00:19:00,705 --> 00:19:02,905 Speaker 2: Tweed Jacket and I quite like it because they've you know, 417 00:19:02,985 --> 00:19:03,985 Speaker 2: put it into a bomber. 418 00:19:04,105 --> 00:19:04,985 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the bomber. 419 00:19:05,185 --> 00:19:05,425 Speaker 1: Yeah. 420 00:19:05,465 --> 00:19:07,665 Speaker 2: It doesn't say Chanelle to me. It just says Tweed 421 00:19:07,665 --> 00:19:11,385 Speaker 2: fabric really cool, bit more edgy. And then another brand 422 00:19:11,465 --> 00:19:14,305 Speaker 2: we've got is Bell and Bloom on the Iconic and 423 00:19:14,345 --> 00:19:17,665 Speaker 2: that's sort of a tweet almost like a crops trench. Again, 424 00:19:17,945 --> 00:19:19,585 Speaker 2: not trying to be a ripoff, but just kind of 425 00:19:19,665 --> 00:19:21,065 Speaker 2: use that beautiful winter fabric. 426 00:19:21,825 --> 00:19:25,665 Speaker 1: What have we got next? Added ass three stripe. Can 427 00:19:25,705 --> 00:19:26,545 Speaker 1: we talk about that? 428 00:19:26,625 --> 00:19:26,945 Speaker 4: We can? 429 00:19:27,145 --> 00:19:27,265 Speaker 2: Do? 430 00:19:27,265 --> 00:19:29,145 Speaker 1: You not feel confident talking about. 431 00:19:28,465 --> 00:19:30,985 Speaker 4: I'm not as confident as that. Let's give it a 432 00:19:31,025 --> 00:19:32,185 Speaker 4: red hot. 433 00:19:31,785 --> 00:19:33,825 Speaker 2: To sign a house. Well, look, I wanted to bring 434 00:19:33,825 --> 00:19:35,705 Speaker 2: this one because he's having a huge resurgence. 435 00:19:35,905 --> 00:19:36,545 Speaker 4: It's everywhere. 436 00:19:36,625 --> 00:19:39,505 Speaker 2: It's everywhere stripes, and then you're wearing a blazer and 437 00:19:39,505 --> 00:19:41,265 Speaker 2: a heel like people are dressing. 438 00:19:40,985 --> 00:19:42,185 Speaker 1: Up their track seat pants. 439 00:19:42,225 --> 00:19:44,265 Speaker 2: And the amount of times on Instagram I've got oh, 440 00:19:44,345 --> 00:19:45,625 Speaker 2: I love those added ass and I've gone to look 441 00:19:45,625 --> 00:19:48,025 Speaker 2: at them and they're not added us. They're someone borrowing 442 00:19:48,065 --> 00:19:51,225 Speaker 2: a couple of stripes. So the good news is more 443 00:19:51,265 --> 00:19:52,905 Speaker 2: often than not we can afford a pair of added 444 00:19:52,905 --> 00:19:56,065 Speaker 2: as tracksipants should be like the original fire Bird loose 445 00:19:56,065 --> 00:19:57,905 Speaker 2: track suit pants or one hundred and twenty dollars. You 446 00:19:57,945 --> 00:19:59,825 Speaker 2: can get them in every color of the rainbow, and 447 00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:03,905 Speaker 2: then your stripes. And let me tell you about another pair. Mia, 448 00:20:03,985 --> 00:20:07,505 Speaker 2: my boss here and fellow fashion enthusiast, has one thousand pairs, 449 00:20:07,745 --> 00:20:10,825 Speaker 2: the Becker Bauer track pants one, so I think you're 450 00:20:10,825 --> 00:20:15,105 Speaker 2: looking at one twenty. How have athleisure brands got away 451 00:20:15,145 --> 00:20:16,505 Speaker 2: with using stripes? 452 00:20:17,225 --> 00:20:20,785 Speaker 4: Look, that's a very good question. I mean the addedor 453 00:20:20,905 --> 00:20:25,505 Speaker 4: stripes go way back. And I read something apparently they 454 00:20:25,505 --> 00:20:27,545 Speaker 4: had two stripes that when they did the cleat in 455 00:20:27,585 --> 00:20:31,625 Speaker 4: the bottom of the sokershoe. Yes, yeah, yeah, for those 456 00:20:31,745 --> 00:20:34,665 Speaker 4: spiky bits. There was apparently a stripe on either side 457 00:20:34,665 --> 00:20:36,225 Speaker 4: of those. I mean, you wouldn't notice that, so I 458 00:20:36,265 --> 00:20:38,625 Speaker 4: don't really understand. But anyway, let's move on from that. 459 00:20:38,705 --> 00:20:40,745 Speaker 4: So they already had this stripe thing in their heads. 460 00:20:41,105 --> 00:20:44,105 Speaker 4: Then they wanted to do three stripes. There was a 461 00:20:44,145 --> 00:20:50,305 Speaker 4: finish sporting brand called Carhu who had three stripes, right, 462 00:20:50,345 --> 00:20:52,065 Speaker 4: and somehow they struck a deal with car Who to 463 00:20:52,105 --> 00:20:55,465 Speaker 4: take the three stripes they that logo, and the deal 464 00:20:55,505 --> 00:20:58,145 Speaker 4: apparently included two bottles of whiskey, which is the only 465 00:20:58,185 --> 00:21:00,265 Speaker 4: element of that story I've remembered. I loved the only 466 00:21:00,305 --> 00:21:01,145 Speaker 4: element that I really. 467 00:21:00,985 --> 00:21:03,065 Speaker 1: Liked, stripes give us some whiskey. 468 00:21:03,625 --> 00:21:06,905 Speaker 4: But what I think is interesting here there's almost a 469 00:21:06,945 --> 00:21:10,945 Speaker 4: reversal going on here, right, because actually you get a 470 00:21:10,985 --> 00:21:14,585 Speaker 4: lot of high end brands doing that kind of chic 471 00:21:14,705 --> 00:21:17,545 Speaker 4: tracksuit pants with perhaps just one stripe down the side. 472 00:21:17,585 --> 00:21:20,625 Speaker 4: And I'm thinking back, remember seeing like me and m 473 00:21:20,705 --> 00:21:23,065 Speaker 4: in the UK. Yeah, because they always come up on 474 00:21:23,105 --> 00:21:25,785 Speaker 4: my Instagram feed and have a very nice Maxi dress 475 00:21:25,785 --> 00:21:27,585 Speaker 4: that I bought in London last year. They had this 476 00:21:27,665 --> 00:21:30,665 Speaker 4: really nice kind of relaxed jogger pant with a big 477 00:21:30,705 --> 00:21:33,065 Speaker 4: fat stripe down the side. Right, So it's. 478 00:21:33,105 --> 00:21:36,545 Speaker 2: Sport in some reason, it just makes you think sport. 479 00:21:37,065 --> 00:21:38,425 Speaker 2: Maybe it's fast like a lot. 480 00:21:38,545 --> 00:21:40,425 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Dash that's a. 481 00:21:40,425 --> 00:21:42,265 Speaker 2: Really good way to illustrate that it's not always like 482 00:21:42,425 --> 00:21:45,505 Speaker 2: extensive thing inspires more affordable thing. You know, Look these 483 00:21:45,545 --> 00:21:48,225 Speaker 2: beautiful pants. I love the upside. And there's Celeste pants 484 00:21:48,265 --> 00:21:51,145 Speaker 2: that's two stripes. Yeah, they're one eighty nine to ninety nine. 485 00:21:51,345 --> 00:21:52,985 Speaker 2: So it's more that it's just like we want to 486 00:21:53,025 --> 00:21:56,945 Speaker 2: signify that this pant is sporty, it's at leisure where 487 00:21:57,305 --> 00:22:01,225 Speaker 2: this person wearing this has a certain lifestyle perhaps or vibe. 488 00:22:01,425 --> 00:22:02,865 Speaker 1: Yep, are you a stripe? 489 00:22:03,385 --> 00:22:05,265 Speaker 4: Do you know what? I'm not opposed to a stripe? 490 00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:08,625 Speaker 4: Looking at these yesterday, I was like, oh, maybe I should. 491 00:22:09,305 --> 00:22:12,185 Speaker 4: I'm not a traxit person at all at home? 492 00:22:12,345 --> 00:22:14,625 Speaker 1: No, what do you mean? Don't tell me where jeans 493 00:22:14,625 --> 00:22:15,185 Speaker 1: around the house. 494 00:22:15,305 --> 00:22:19,705 Speaker 4: I do. But also I have I bought these papanel 495 00:22:20,425 --> 00:22:24,185 Speaker 4: oh cotton cashmir. They're joggers, I suppose, but they wouldn't 496 00:22:24,185 --> 00:22:25,065 Speaker 4: wear them outside. 497 00:22:25,225 --> 00:22:27,825 Speaker 1: They're more like they're a loungewear exactly. 498 00:22:28,265 --> 00:22:29,865 Speaker 4: And because they're tapered at the bottom and they got 499 00:22:29,865 --> 00:22:32,145 Speaker 4: the drawstring. So but that's as closest. 500 00:22:31,865 --> 00:22:33,585 Speaker 2: You could do, though it's with a heel and a blazer. 501 00:22:33,985 --> 00:22:37,745 Speaker 2: I have one more, the Gucci loafer. I bought a 502 00:22:37,825 --> 00:22:39,505 Speaker 2: rip off of these ten years ago when they had 503 00:22:39,505 --> 00:22:42,145 Speaker 2: a resurgence, roughly ten years ago, and I flogged them 504 00:22:42,145 --> 00:22:44,825 Speaker 2: and I loved them. I wish I'd bought the originals, 505 00:22:44,865 --> 00:22:46,745 Speaker 2: although I guess I still would have flogged them. So 506 00:22:46,825 --> 00:22:49,585 Speaker 2: the Gucci loafer I'm talking about is this kind of classic. 507 00:22:50,145 --> 00:22:52,225 Speaker 2: I might be going to ride a horse that little 508 00:22:52,265 --> 00:22:53,305 Speaker 2: buck will, yeah. 509 00:22:53,185 --> 00:22:55,905 Speaker 4: Snaffle what's it called a snaffle suffle? 510 00:22:56,025 --> 00:22:58,705 Speaker 2: That sounds like a cute a snaffle bit, a snaffle 511 00:22:58,745 --> 00:22:59,465 Speaker 2: bit from horse. 512 00:22:59,745 --> 00:23:03,265 Speaker 4: Yeah. The founder of Gucci, Gucci or Gucci, he. 513 00:23:03,185 --> 00:23:04,545 Speaker 1: Was mad Gucci. 514 00:23:04,625 --> 00:23:08,465 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a mad equestrian by all accounts. And 515 00:23:08,505 --> 00:23:11,585 Speaker 4: his three sons then went into the business, came up 516 00:23:11,625 --> 00:23:13,905 Speaker 4: with this and that was the nod to their dad. 517 00:23:14,225 --> 00:23:16,225 Speaker 4: Was this snaffle bit they call it. 518 00:23:16,225 --> 00:23:17,265 Speaker 1: That's so nice. 519 00:23:17,345 --> 00:23:19,425 Speaker 2: One and four hundre and fifty for that classic style. 520 00:23:19,745 --> 00:23:22,105 Speaker 2: Then more recently they did that kind of real chunky 521 00:23:22,265 --> 00:23:23,705 Speaker 2: what I call a school shoe. 522 00:23:24,625 --> 00:23:26,465 Speaker 4: I do love a Gucci loafer. I've got a pair 523 00:23:26,505 --> 00:23:28,265 Speaker 4: of red ones. They're more of a buzzy heel. 524 00:23:29,145 --> 00:23:32,425 Speaker 2: Yeah, these ones are on sale. We'll link in the show. 525 00:23:32,505 --> 00:23:35,225 Speaker 2: Not mind about three or four hundred dollars. They weren't 526 00:23:35,265 --> 00:23:37,345 Speaker 2: cheap by any means, particularly from my budget back then, 527 00:23:37,665 --> 00:23:40,425 Speaker 2: but they were one hundred percent leather. I wore them 528 00:23:40,665 --> 00:23:42,985 Speaker 2: so much and they lasted almost a decade. So do 529 00:23:43,065 --> 00:23:46,105 Speaker 2: you think a good quali flat leather shoe like this 530 00:23:46,545 --> 00:23:47,505 Speaker 2: is worth an investment? 531 00:23:47,625 --> 00:23:50,945 Speaker 4: Look, I'm all about putting your money into the things 532 00:23:50,945 --> 00:23:54,105 Speaker 4: that you're going to flog, and that's why I felt 533 00:23:54,225 --> 00:23:56,745 Speaker 4: very justified back in the day of buying some Gucci loafers. 534 00:23:56,785 --> 00:23:57,545 Speaker 1: How old are yours? 535 00:23:58,265 --> 00:24:01,945 Speaker 4: They're probably only about six years ago, six or seven 536 00:24:02,025 --> 00:24:04,785 Speaker 4: years old, right, Yeah, Yeah, I've stretched them a bit 537 00:24:04,785 --> 00:24:06,185 Speaker 4: at the back and so now my feet flop out 538 00:24:06,225 --> 00:24:07,145 Speaker 4: of them, so I can't wear them so. 539 00:24:07,185 --> 00:24:07,905 Speaker 1: Much in a soul. 540 00:24:08,745 --> 00:24:11,145 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had side grips put in, and then even 541 00:24:11,185 --> 00:24:13,505 Speaker 4: they're not cutting it anymore, so I can got it 542 00:24:13,545 --> 00:24:16,465 Speaker 4: about that. The thing with loafers is that loafers as 543 00:24:16,465 --> 00:24:20,545 Speaker 4: a genre well predated this, and they were kind of 544 00:24:20,585 --> 00:24:24,305 Speaker 4: part of that American preppy kind of look, and that's 545 00:24:24,385 --> 00:24:26,345 Speaker 4: kind of Gucci sort of thought, oh yeah, we should 546 00:24:26,345 --> 00:24:28,345 Speaker 4: do this. I think that's kind of where it came 547 00:24:28,345 --> 00:24:30,865 Speaker 4: from them, and then they became a bit of a 548 00:24:30,865 --> 00:24:32,825 Speaker 4: symbol of the Jets set in the sort. 549 00:24:32,665 --> 00:24:33,905 Speaker 1: Of Yes, that's what I think. 550 00:24:34,025 --> 00:24:35,905 Speaker 2: I think, like I don't know why, but like not 551 00:24:35,945 --> 00:24:39,425 Speaker 2: Pablo Escobar, but like rich people. Yeah, smoking cigars by 552 00:24:39,425 --> 00:24:41,745 Speaker 2: a pool. Yeah, is that the vibe I'm supposed to get? 553 00:24:41,905 --> 00:24:43,585 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a legit vibe. 554 00:24:43,985 --> 00:24:45,345 Speaker 2: Right. Well, I'm not going to do that, and I'm 555 00:24:45,345 --> 00:24:47,265 Speaker 2: not going to buy some Gucci loafers right now, but 556 00:24:47,305 --> 00:24:50,865 Speaker 2: I do have some similar inspired by pieces. 557 00:24:51,545 --> 00:24:53,945 Speaker 1: Good Old Kmart has a. 558 00:24:53,825 --> 00:24:59,185 Speaker 2: Pair that look very very Yeah they yeah, the buckle 559 00:24:59,225 --> 00:25:00,345 Speaker 2: trim loafer close. 560 00:25:00,385 --> 00:25:01,145 Speaker 4: They may not know. 561 00:25:01,825 --> 00:25:05,305 Speaker 2: I don't think they're exactly, but between ten and twenty 562 00:25:05,305 --> 00:25:06,145 Speaker 2: dollars you can get that. 563 00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:07,905 Speaker 1: Look in God, that terrifies me. 564 00:25:08,225 --> 00:25:12,065 Speaker 2: And then I love this style by Sarah. So it's 565 00:25:12,145 --> 00:25:14,585 Speaker 2: just very kind of the vibe of. 566 00:25:14,545 --> 00:25:16,665 Speaker 4: But not trying to be quite a different shape. 567 00:25:16,665 --> 00:25:19,065 Speaker 2: It's quite a different shape. The buckle's very different. These 568 00:25:19,065 --> 00:25:21,345 Speaker 2: are called the soft leather loafers with buckle one hundred 569 00:25:21,345 --> 00:25:22,385 Speaker 2: and nine dollars their leather. 570 00:25:23,065 --> 00:25:23,785 Speaker 1: I support that. 571 00:25:38,545 --> 00:25:40,585 Speaker 3: It's very expensive. 572 00:25:40,105 --> 00:25:42,585 Speaker 1: Damn honey, how hundred percent? 573 00:25:44,025 --> 00:25:45,985 Speaker 2: So there are a few design elements you might have 574 00:25:45,985 --> 00:25:48,025 Speaker 2: seen around in your wardrobe, and now you know the 575 00:25:48,105 --> 00:25:51,345 Speaker 2: origin of In the spirit of that, let's quickly do 576 00:25:51,425 --> 00:25:53,425 Speaker 2: bougie and budget. I'm not going to make you bring 577 00:25:53,465 --> 00:25:55,425 Speaker 2: a jupe. You can do whatever you like. I have 578 00:25:55,545 --> 00:25:58,945 Speaker 2: brought a designer item and an inspired by item that 579 00:25:59,145 --> 00:26:02,265 Speaker 2: I feel comfortable wearing. The inspired by Okay, I've had 580 00:26:02,265 --> 00:26:04,185 Speaker 2: my only belt for one hundred and fifty years. Will 581 00:26:04,185 --> 00:26:06,185 Speaker 2: I buy it? Absolutely not. It's seven hundred dollars for 582 00:26:06,185 --> 00:26:10,425 Speaker 2: a belt. It is the Buttaga Vanetta Triangle belt, seven 583 00:26:10,505 --> 00:26:12,545 Speaker 2: hundred dollars for a thin piece of leather and then 584 00:26:12,665 --> 00:26:15,825 Speaker 2: like a little triangle and if you think it's beautiful, 585 00:26:16,225 --> 00:26:18,665 Speaker 2: I saw even Scallon and Theodore a few seasons ago 586 00:26:18,705 --> 00:26:19,865 Speaker 2: did a little triangle. 587 00:26:19,545 --> 00:26:21,905 Speaker 1: Buckle and I was like, whoa, that's a nod. 588 00:26:22,265 --> 00:26:25,345 Speaker 2: But the one I like is from a brand called 589 00:26:25,385 --> 00:26:28,985 Speaker 2: Belts and Bags, and it's called the Sunbury Women's Black 590 00:26:29,065 --> 00:26:32,225 Speaker 2: Genuine Leather belt with triangle buckle. It is forty six 591 00:26:32,225 --> 00:26:34,305 Speaker 2: dollars and ninety five cents at the time of recording 592 00:26:34,425 --> 00:26:36,585 Speaker 2: down to thirty to eighty seven. 593 00:26:36,865 --> 00:26:38,105 Speaker 1: Not exactly the same. 594 00:26:38,025 --> 00:26:40,145 Speaker 2: But I do need a belt slight similar. You'll be 595 00:26:40,225 --> 00:26:41,985 Speaker 2: able to find a jupe. Yeah, there's some that are 596 00:26:41,985 --> 00:26:44,385 Speaker 2: around four hundred from really nice you know, well known 597 00:26:44,425 --> 00:26:47,345 Speaker 2: brands that I think were perhaps looking towards this star 598 00:26:47,465 --> 00:26:50,985 Speaker 2: when they invented it, right down to Timu, which somehow 599 00:26:51,305 --> 00:26:54,425 Speaker 2: owns all of Google and all of SEO because everything 600 00:26:54,465 --> 00:26:55,785 Speaker 2: I Google is team right. 601 00:26:56,025 --> 00:26:58,545 Speaker 4: God, I'm trying to think what I'm coveting at the moment, though, 602 00:26:58,585 --> 00:27:01,465 Speaker 4: even Oh, look, I've never bought anything more expensive in 603 00:27:01,505 --> 00:27:01,785 Speaker 4: my life. 604 00:27:01,825 --> 00:27:03,705 Speaker 1: Show me her, describe her. 605 00:27:03,865 --> 00:27:06,825 Speaker 4: My wire cell handbag, which you know, the style name 606 00:27:06,945 --> 00:27:07,505 Speaker 4: the Lulu. 607 00:27:07,785 --> 00:27:08,825 Speaker 1: Yes, it is the Lulu. 608 00:27:08,985 --> 00:27:11,425 Speaker 4: Yes, I'll tell you why I got this size. Yes, 609 00:27:11,545 --> 00:27:13,905 Speaker 4: I've just preface this by saying that this is the 610 00:27:13,905 --> 00:27:17,505 Speaker 4: most expensive thing I've ever bought. This was my severance 611 00:27:17,785 --> 00:27:20,785 Speaker 4: gift to self when I got made redundant. 612 00:27:20,945 --> 00:27:21,985 Speaker 1: You've got to do it. 613 00:27:22,265 --> 00:27:25,505 Speaker 4: I just thought, I'm never going to be blessed with 614 00:27:25,505 --> 00:27:27,545 Speaker 4: a whack of cash like that ever again, and I've 615 00:27:27,585 --> 00:27:30,385 Speaker 4: never had it. I'm back this beautiful good on you, 616 00:27:30,545 --> 00:27:32,145 Speaker 4: And I thought, if I'm going to be a freelance, 617 00:27:32,185 --> 00:27:35,185 Speaker 4: I need to look polished, and so I should exactly. 618 00:27:35,385 --> 00:27:37,145 Speaker 4: But the reason I bought the medium and not the 619 00:27:37,185 --> 00:27:40,185 Speaker 4: small is because I needed a bag that would fit 620 00:27:40,705 --> 00:27:44,865 Speaker 4: usually my crossword but in this case my notebook. 621 00:27:45,185 --> 00:27:47,145 Speaker 1: What about all my diary have a computer. 622 00:27:47,345 --> 00:27:49,745 Speaker 4: I do have a laptop, but that goes in the 623 00:27:50,025 --> 00:27:53,905 Speaker 4: poorly tote generally, So this bag I can carry my 624 00:27:53,985 --> 00:27:56,705 Speaker 4: diary and my crossword book. I always find if you're 625 00:27:56,785 --> 00:27:58,985 Speaker 4: going to be between meetings or something or just out 626 00:27:59,025 --> 00:28:01,625 Speaker 4: in the city and you have fifteen minutes and you 627 00:28:01,705 --> 00:28:03,145 Speaker 4: just want to grab a crop, I'll do some. 628 00:28:03,065 --> 00:28:04,825 Speaker 1: Crossword and not crypt Instagram. 629 00:28:04,905 --> 00:28:06,145 Speaker 4: I'm always scrolling Instagram. 630 00:28:06,185 --> 00:28:09,265 Speaker 2: But if I'm trying to be good, now, my friend, 631 00:28:09,265 --> 00:28:11,025 Speaker 2: I'm going to you go before I tell everyone the 632 00:28:11,105 --> 00:28:15,465 Speaker 2: dupes for your handbags. Thank you so much for joining us. 633 00:28:15,465 --> 00:28:17,785 Speaker 2: I wish I had your fashion knowledge. It is so 634 00:28:17,825 --> 00:28:19,185 Speaker 2: incredible to be inside your brain. 635 00:28:19,225 --> 00:28:20,625 Speaker 1: So thank you for lending it to us. 636 00:28:20,625 --> 00:28:21,745 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 637 00:28:22,585 --> 00:28:25,465 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. Now, don't 638 00:28:25,505 --> 00:28:27,185 Speaker 2: forget you need to sign up to our Nothing to 639 00:28:27,225 --> 00:28:30,345 Speaker 2: Wear newsletter. It's fabulous and it's free and there's a 640 00:28:30,385 --> 00:28:33,545 Speaker 2: link in the show notes and if you love today's episode. 641 00:28:33,585 --> 00:28:36,345 Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, we spoke to Damian will Know 642 00:28:36,865 --> 00:28:41,185 Speaker 2: about designer handbags and their dupes. And funnily enough, Damien 643 00:28:41,265 --> 00:28:44,945 Speaker 2: and Glennis are besties, very very stylish besties. So if 644 00:28:44,945 --> 00:28:46,465 Speaker 2: you want to hear that one, there's a link in 645 00:28:46,505 --> 00:28:49,505 Speaker 2: the show notes. See you next week. Thanks for listening, 646 00:28:49,505 --> 00:28:51,705 Speaker 2: you bies, and I hope you enjoyed that fashion chat. 647 00:28:51,945 --> 00:28:54,185 Speaker 2: If you like listening to Nothing to Wear, head over 648 00:28:54,225 --> 00:28:57,105 Speaker 2: and follow wherever you get your podcasts. Enjoy the rest 649 00:28:57,145 --> 00:28:58,785 Speaker 2: of your weekend, and I'll be back in your ears 650 00:28:58,785 --> 00:29:00,985 Speaker 2: tomorrow for Q and A with my friend Kelly