1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:15,433 Speaker 1: You're listening to a mom with mea podcast. Hi, you 2 00:00:15,553 --> 00:00:17,954 Speaker 1: beasily here. Now, Look what am I about to tell 3 00:00:17,994 --> 00:00:20,954 Speaker 1: you isn't about beauty, but it's going to change your life. 4 00:00:21,034 --> 00:00:23,393 Speaker 1: I recently had an incredible stylist on Nothing to Wear. 5 00:00:23,594 --> 00:00:26,474 Speaker 1: Her name is Sam Preston. She's fresh to Australia from 6 00:00:26,474 --> 00:00:29,074 Speaker 1: the UK and she has the most refreshing take on 7 00:00:29,154 --> 00:00:32,954 Speaker 1: getting dressed. She barely buys anything new. She inspired me 8 00:00:33,034 --> 00:00:34,273 Speaker 1: to do the same and I want you to have 9 00:00:34,274 --> 00:00:38,473 Speaker 1: a listen and see what you think. Whoever said orange 10 00:00:38,554 --> 00:00:42,953 Speaker 1: is a new pink with seriously deserved laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 11 00:00:43,193 --> 00:00:45,473 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you have to do it. You live 12 00:00:45,593 --> 00:00:46,273 Speaker 2: for fashion. 13 00:00:47,634 --> 00:00:50,233 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear the podcast. It 14 00:00:50,314 --> 00:00:53,313 Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee 15 00:00:53,394 --> 00:00:56,033 Speaker 1: Campbell and I'm back. I have taken some time off 16 00:00:56,034 --> 00:00:57,834 Speaker 1: over the past few months to spend it with my 17 00:00:57,954 --> 00:01:00,393 Speaker 1: mom before she passed away. But as you know, if 18 00:01:00,434 --> 00:01:02,674 Speaker 1: you're a regular listener, you were in very good hands. 19 00:01:02,994 --> 00:01:04,794 Speaker 1: But it's great to be back. So thank you to 20 00:01:04,834 --> 00:01:07,034 Speaker 1: the Nothing to Wear audience for having me back and 21 00:01:07,154 --> 00:01:09,794 Speaker 1: all the lovely messages while I was gone. Now, my 22 00:01:09,834 --> 00:01:12,634 Speaker 1: first episode back is a good one. I have fresh 23 00:01:12,674 --> 00:01:15,394 Speaker 1: new talent for us. Her name is Sam and she's 24 00:01:15,434 --> 00:01:18,554 Speaker 1: a wardrobe strategist. She only arrived in Australia a couple 25 00:01:18,554 --> 00:01:21,154 Speaker 1: of months ago and she has a fresh new take 26 00:01:21,314 --> 00:01:24,474 Speaker 1: on our wardrobes. And guess what we're not doing any 27 00:01:24,474 --> 00:01:26,954 Speaker 1: shopping in this episode. Well we have a few boogie 28 00:01:26,954 --> 00:01:30,034 Speaker 1: and budget recommendations, but we'll explain why at the end. 29 00:01:30,154 --> 00:01:33,234 Speaker 1: So Sam is all about strategy. And guess what you 30 00:01:33,274 --> 00:01:35,634 Speaker 1: stand in front of your wardrobe and say I have 31 00:01:35,714 --> 00:01:38,354 Speaker 1: nothing to wear because you probably have too much or 32 00:01:38,394 --> 00:01:41,074 Speaker 1: you don't know how to style what you already have. 33 00:01:41,794 --> 00:01:44,194 Speaker 1: And with technology and social media, you can press two 34 00:01:44,274 --> 00:01:47,033 Speaker 1: or three buttons and you've ordered something new, which feels 35 00:01:47,074 --> 00:01:49,594 Speaker 1: more exciting and less hard than looking at what you've 36 00:01:49,594 --> 00:01:53,154 Speaker 1: already got. But it's hiding in your wardrobe. Your personal 37 00:01:53,234 --> 00:01:55,514 Speaker 1: style is there. So Sam's gonna teach us how to 38 00:01:55,554 --> 00:01:58,474 Speaker 1: go through what we already have, pair things together and 39 00:01:58,594 --> 00:02:01,314 Speaker 1: style our clothes that we already love instead of just 40 00:02:01,394 --> 00:02:04,674 Speaker 1: buying something new. So let's get into it. Sam. Firstly, 41 00:02:04,794 --> 00:02:05,874 Speaker 1: welcome to Nothing to Wear. 42 00:02:06,074 --> 00:02:06,434 Speaker 2: Thank you. 43 00:02:07,114 --> 00:02:09,634 Speaker 1: Before we get into your topic, which I desperately need 44 00:02:09,794 --> 00:02:12,554 Speaker 1: to talk about. There's two questions I start with for 45 00:02:12,633 --> 00:02:14,994 Speaker 1: new guests. So the first one is can you describe 46 00:02:15,034 --> 00:02:17,114 Speaker 1: your own style in three words? 47 00:02:17,514 --> 00:02:18,714 Speaker 2: Oh? 48 00:02:18,794 --> 00:02:23,874 Speaker 3: Yes, probably relaxed, because I don't like anything too fossy. 49 00:02:24,074 --> 00:02:27,554 Speaker 3: I need to like move around, be with the kids 50 00:02:27,714 --> 00:02:32,154 Speaker 3: every day. Probably on fussy actually, and fussy I like that. Yeah, 51 00:02:32,274 --> 00:02:34,514 Speaker 3: So I just like to be I'm very grounded in 52 00:02:34,554 --> 00:02:37,714 Speaker 3: my personal stale. I feel like I've been there, done 53 00:02:37,714 --> 00:02:40,074 Speaker 3: that in terms of the trends. 54 00:02:39,794 --> 00:02:41,554 Speaker 2: And I just know when I like. 55 00:02:41,754 --> 00:02:46,314 Speaker 3: And it as very much relaxed, grinded on, fossy, efiniteless. 56 00:02:46,474 --> 00:02:48,554 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh my gosh, that's what we all want to be. 57 00:02:48,714 --> 00:02:52,154 Speaker 1: I am relaxed usually because I only look nice twice 58 00:02:52,154 --> 00:02:54,633 Speaker 1: a week and then I just look off. But they're 59 00:02:54,754 --> 00:02:55,114 Speaker 1: very good. 60 00:02:55,194 --> 00:02:55,514 Speaker 2: Okay. 61 00:02:56,074 --> 00:02:58,274 Speaker 1: There's a theory that most people have a wardrobe full 62 00:02:58,274 --> 00:03:00,034 Speaker 1: of clothes, whether that be a lot of clothes or 63 00:03:00,074 --> 00:03:02,274 Speaker 1: a small amount, but they wear ten percent of what 64 00:03:02,314 --> 00:03:04,954 Speaker 1: they own. Yeah, the most. Yeah, almost ninety percent of 65 00:03:04,954 --> 00:03:06,754 Speaker 1: the time. What's in new your ten percent? On the 66 00:03:06,834 --> 00:03:10,314 Speaker 1: high rotation, I would say white T shirt. 67 00:03:11,754 --> 00:03:15,154 Speaker 3: I'm constantly my white T shirt, jeans, Maddie Scott's I've 68 00:03:15,194 --> 00:03:16,834 Speaker 3: been wearing weight a lot. 69 00:03:18,274 --> 00:03:21,994 Speaker 2: It's just easy slip on stuff like blacks. 70 00:03:22,874 --> 00:03:23,514 Speaker 1: White T shirts. 71 00:03:23,514 --> 00:03:23,874 Speaker 2: Do you have that? 72 00:03:24,234 --> 00:03:28,034 Speaker 3: I actually do have quite a few, because there's there's 73 00:03:28,074 --> 00:03:28,674 Speaker 3: different shapes. 74 00:03:28,714 --> 00:03:29,794 Speaker 2: I have an off sized. 75 00:03:29,554 --> 00:03:32,034 Speaker 3: One, I have a baby one, I have a relaxed one, 76 00:03:32,074 --> 00:03:34,154 Speaker 3: I different color. 77 00:03:35,194 --> 00:03:36,914 Speaker 1: I'm a white T shirt girl. Yeah, so I'm glad 78 00:03:36,914 --> 00:03:37,514 Speaker 1: that you say that. 79 00:03:37,594 --> 00:03:39,834 Speaker 3: I used to be the type of person who would 80 00:03:39,834 --> 00:03:41,954 Speaker 3: be like, we only need two T shirts? 81 00:03:41,994 --> 00:03:43,434 Speaker 1: But no, I'm like, do you wear it all the time? 82 00:03:43,434 --> 00:03:44,794 Speaker 1: What do you only have two pairs of bundies? 83 00:03:44,794 --> 00:03:45,234 Speaker 2: Exactly? 84 00:03:46,634 --> 00:03:49,114 Speaker 1: So far we're very similar. I'm always a gene, but 85 00:03:49,154 --> 00:03:51,194 Speaker 1: I'm slowly well. I've always loved to maxis Good or 86 00:03:51,234 --> 00:03:53,474 Speaker 1: medi sCOD, but I think back again this season in 87 00:03:53,514 --> 00:03:54,954 Speaker 1: a way that they haven't been for a while. 88 00:03:55,194 --> 00:03:55,914 Speaker 2: Yeah. 89 00:03:56,154 --> 00:03:59,194 Speaker 3: And I'm constantly wearing like a longer short these days, 90 00:03:59,234 --> 00:04:01,194 Speaker 3: or whether it's a tail short, whether it's a box 91 00:04:01,314 --> 00:04:03,514 Speaker 3: or short, a longer length. 92 00:04:03,634 --> 00:04:05,554 Speaker 2: I have been gravitating towards them. 93 00:04:05,754 --> 00:04:07,834 Speaker 1: But nothing too full on the waist, nothing to. 94 00:04:07,914 --> 00:04:09,074 Speaker 2: Feel on the way, It's nothing. 95 00:04:09,394 --> 00:04:11,314 Speaker 1: I've got a pair of shorts OFFT deepop recently and 96 00:04:11,314 --> 00:04:13,434 Speaker 1: they were gorgeously that brand Rowie or something but then 97 00:04:13,514 --> 00:04:15,394 Speaker 1: I've realized, well they look so cup but then they've 98 00:04:15,394 --> 00:04:16,714 Speaker 1: got this bucket, like they've got a built in belt 99 00:04:16,753 --> 00:04:18,633 Speaker 1: with a bucket that goes across there and then across 100 00:04:18,154 --> 00:04:21,034 Speaker 1: the there's too much fus asn't it too much fuss? 101 00:04:21,154 --> 00:04:24,073 Speaker 1: RePOP see you later. I wear too much. So if 102 00:04:24,113 --> 00:04:26,833 Speaker 1: it sometimes, if it looks not unfussy, the item can 103 00:04:26,993 --> 00:04:27,914 Speaker 1: itself be home. 104 00:04:27,834 --> 00:04:29,914 Speaker 3: Oh definitely. And you can stand in front of that 105 00:04:29,914 --> 00:04:31,993 Speaker 3: mirror and well, yes, this looks amazing. And when you 106 00:04:32,034 --> 00:04:35,234 Speaker 3: walk around and do your day to day things, yeah. 107 00:04:35,073 --> 00:04:37,474 Speaker 1: It's like yeah, and then you don't reach for the end. Okay, yeah, 108 00:04:37,674 --> 00:04:39,873 Speaker 1: I feel like you might clean so far. Okay, So 109 00:04:40,034 --> 00:04:42,753 Speaker 1: you're here to help us fall back in love with 110 00:04:42,794 --> 00:04:46,873 Speaker 1: our wardrobe and wear the things we own through styling, 111 00:04:47,393 --> 00:04:50,033 Speaker 1: not shopping. Yeah, so this is not a shopping episode. 112 00:04:50,034 --> 00:04:52,393 Speaker 1: We may have a few recommendations at the end, but 113 00:04:53,834 --> 00:04:55,713 Speaker 1: this podcast has called nothing to Wear for good reason. 114 00:04:55,794 --> 00:04:58,154 Speaker 1: There's many a woman who's stood in front of all 115 00:04:58,154 --> 00:05:01,073 Speaker 1: their clothes, their wardrobe whatever, however they've got on the 116 00:05:01,234 --> 00:05:04,274 Speaker 1: chair and they've said, I've got nothing to wear. So 117 00:05:04,393 --> 00:05:06,153 Speaker 1: why does that happen to us? Do you think? 118 00:05:06,753 --> 00:05:10,153 Speaker 3: I think it's probably we have too many options. We 119 00:05:10,274 --> 00:05:15,394 Speaker 3: are overwhelmed by our wardrobes. We shop by occasion. We 120 00:05:15,474 --> 00:05:17,313 Speaker 3: have a meeting to go to, we might shop. We 121 00:05:17,594 --> 00:05:20,033 Speaker 3: have a party to go to, we might shop. We 122 00:05:20,154 --> 00:05:23,913 Speaker 3: shop like that rather than we're kind of daily life, 123 00:05:24,113 --> 00:05:25,593 Speaker 3: so we can't You can't see the wood for the 124 00:05:25,594 --> 00:05:28,354 Speaker 3: trees when you're looking in your wardrobe. Band you know, 125 00:05:28,393 --> 00:05:30,474 Speaker 3: what can I wear today? When you're dressing for your 126 00:05:30,633 --> 00:05:34,234 Speaker 3: just normal, everyday life, And you could have too many 127 00:05:34,313 --> 00:05:41,794 Speaker 3: anchor pieces. So it's like those standout pieces that you do. Yeah, 128 00:05:42,073 --> 00:05:45,113 Speaker 3: but you know, do you have your actual basics in order? 129 00:05:45,234 --> 00:05:49,234 Speaker 3: Your ginger T shirts, your middi dressing, your scots, your shots, 130 00:05:49,393 --> 00:05:53,314 Speaker 3: anything like that, So we get overwhelmed by that. We 131 00:05:53,674 --> 00:05:59,474 Speaker 3: also shop like constantly via Instagram and talk and things 132 00:05:59,513 --> 00:06:02,034 Speaker 3: like that, so we have impulse buying, but we might 133 00:06:02,113 --> 00:06:04,674 Speaker 3: not be thinking twice about our purses. 134 00:06:04,834 --> 00:06:06,634 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. You do it before you can even really 135 00:06:06,674 --> 00:06:09,234 Speaker 1: consider it. Sometimes even half an hour goes by if 136 00:06:09,234 --> 00:06:10,753 Speaker 1: I haven't brought it, I'm like, oh no, I don't 137 00:06:10,753 --> 00:06:11,794 Speaker 1: need that. Oh my god. 138 00:06:11,834 --> 00:06:13,514 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like I always said that gonna have a 139 00:06:13,513 --> 00:06:15,833 Speaker 3: cup of tea or a coffin and can I think 140 00:06:15,873 --> 00:06:18,153 Speaker 3: about it? But yeah, we're buying for that kind of 141 00:06:18,154 --> 00:06:23,354 Speaker 3: fantasy self rather than our artual, everyday lifestyle. 142 00:06:23,393 --> 00:06:26,953 Speaker 1: And you know true, So we're being conditioned to think 143 00:06:26,993 --> 00:06:31,234 Speaker 1: we need to buy something for every occasion. Why does 144 00:06:31,274 --> 00:06:32,833 Speaker 1: that make us harder? I mean, I get it hard 145 00:06:32,873 --> 00:06:35,593 Speaker 1: I guess you just answered that is that I think 146 00:06:36,393 --> 00:06:38,314 Speaker 1: it's harder to get dressed because we both have a 147 00:06:38,354 --> 00:06:40,193 Speaker 1: white T shirt. But shopping for a white T shirt 148 00:06:40,274 --> 00:06:41,954 Speaker 1: isn't particularly exciting. 149 00:06:42,553 --> 00:06:43,874 Speaker 2: No, it's not. That's the thing. 150 00:06:43,914 --> 00:06:49,034 Speaker 3: It's like we get We get excited by the glamour items. 151 00:06:49,953 --> 00:06:51,154 Speaker 2: Why every day life are we? 152 00:06:51,513 --> 00:06:54,834 Speaker 3: Are we wearing those tea But I love to I 153 00:06:54,914 --> 00:06:58,674 Speaker 3: spend my money and I love to ard accessories. A 154 00:06:58,714 --> 00:07:02,193 Speaker 3: don'tase colored shoe at a humbug. That's where I get 155 00:07:02,234 --> 00:07:04,914 Speaker 3: my excitement. So I could wear a black jeans, black 156 00:07:04,953 --> 00:07:07,393 Speaker 3: T shirt, white T shirt, but then I could a 157 00:07:07,393 --> 00:07:08,113 Speaker 3: red shoe or. 158 00:07:09,714 --> 00:07:12,033 Speaker 1: On YouTube, and I love it. It's a poper color. 159 00:07:12,634 --> 00:07:15,114 Speaker 1: The rest of it, it's boring, it's really thought out. 160 00:07:15,114 --> 00:07:18,074 Speaker 3: Now, that's where I get my kind of texture and 161 00:07:18,234 --> 00:07:20,674 Speaker 3: interest and excitement pieces from. 162 00:07:20,794 --> 00:07:23,714 Speaker 1: Yes, that's clever. Get your thrills there. Yeah, so talk 163 00:07:23,754 --> 00:07:25,434 Speaker 1: to me again and a bit more in depth with 164 00:07:25,474 --> 00:07:28,514 Speaker 1: your personal journey with this. So you've been me or 165 00:07:28,554 --> 00:07:30,953 Speaker 1: everyone else where they've got maybe a bunch of clothes 166 00:07:31,034 --> 00:07:32,593 Speaker 1: might be the same amount as you, but they're not 167 00:07:32,634 --> 00:07:34,593 Speaker 1: wearing them all. How did you get to the point 168 00:07:34,594 --> 00:07:36,833 Speaker 1: where you went, hang on, I don't go to the 169 00:07:36,874 --> 00:07:37,834 Speaker 1: oscars every week. 170 00:07:39,554 --> 00:07:41,954 Speaker 3: I think it was from my top Shop days when 171 00:07:41,953 --> 00:07:43,914 Speaker 3: I used to work and head office top Shop as 172 00:07:43,953 --> 00:07:48,834 Speaker 3: a international buyer. I was noticing that I was constantly 173 00:07:48,874 --> 00:07:52,154 Speaker 3: being fed because I was in that environment where the 174 00:07:52,194 --> 00:07:54,393 Speaker 3: trends are going to be you know, it's going to 175 00:07:54,393 --> 00:07:57,234 Speaker 3: be new and the trends and sex Man's team, and I. 176 00:07:57,274 --> 00:07:59,793 Speaker 1: Was pre you know, the on thought of social media 177 00:07:59,834 --> 00:08:01,953 Speaker 1: where I think the everyday person now gets fed all that. 178 00:08:01,994 --> 00:08:03,554 Speaker 1: But you were kind of like an insider. 179 00:08:04,034 --> 00:08:06,034 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so I knew it was going to be 180 00:08:06,074 --> 00:08:07,914 Speaker 3: in top Shop and like sex my So I was 181 00:08:07,914 --> 00:08:11,994 Speaker 3: constantly being fed that information. But then when I looked around, 182 00:08:12,034 --> 00:08:14,314 Speaker 3: so I was that person who was like, Okay, you're 183 00:08:14,354 --> 00:08:16,273 Speaker 3: telling me that I need to be dressed in seventies 184 00:08:16,274 --> 00:08:18,474 Speaker 3: head to toe. Yes, then I'm going to be dressing 185 00:08:18,514 --> 00:08:19,474 Speaker 3: seventies head to toe. 186 00:08:19,554 --> 00:08:23,074 Speaker 1: I love it. Got at your job, but it was just. 187 00:08:23,714 --> 00:08:27,554 Speaker 3: Constant, and I was exhausted by that, chasing the trends 188 00:08:27,674 --> 00:08:31,994 Speaker 3: or trying to, you know, be that trendy person. But 189 00:08:32,034 --> 00:08:36,914 Speaker 3: then when I looked around, the women who looked confiding 190 00:08:37,314 --> 00:08:41,714 Speaker 3: and stylish were the ones that weren't buying everything every 191 00:08:41,794 --> 00:08:43,594 Speaker 3: trend cycle, every season. 192 00:08:43,674 --> 00:08:45,674 Speaker 2: They were the ones that looked. 193 00:08:45,394 --> 00:08:48,714 Speaker 3: Put together, and they were repeating outfits, and then we were 194 00:08:48,674 --> 00:08:52,234 Speaker 3: repeating style and their styles, and they just looked absolutely 195 00:08:52,274 --> 00:08:56,954 Speaker 3: incredibly they knew who they were, they had personal style, 196 00:08:57,594 --> 00:08:59,834 Speaker 3: and that, you know, I was we were working with 197 00:08:59,874 --> 00:09:02,634 Speaker 3: the best buyers, we were working with the best designers, 198 00:09:02,754 --> 00:09:04,514 Speaker 3: and they were going to tell you what the next 199 00:09:04,554 --> 00:09:05,514 Speaker 3: big trends were. 200 00:09:05,674 --> 00:09:06,834 Speaker 2: But when I looked. 201 00:09:06,514 --> 00:09:12,914 Speaker 3: Around, these people themselves actually hud their own personal style 202 00:09:12,994 --> 00:09:17,874 Speaker 3: figured so they were chasing those new and items all 203 00:09:17,914 --> 00:09:20,754 Speaker 3: the time. They knew exactly who they were. So that 204 00:09:20,954 --> 00:09:24,914 Speaker 3: kind of kind of was like got my brain kind 205 00:09:24,914 --> 00:09:28,514 Speaker 3: of going. And then I actually worked on the Australian 206 00:09:28,594 --> 00:09:31,114 Speaker 3: market when I worked for Top Shops, so I would 207 00:09:31,154 --> 00:09:34,634 Speaker 3: come here and I'd visit, and I loved that most 208 00:09:34,674 --> 00:09:37,833 Speaker 3: of the kind of the retailers and the brands were 209 00:09:37,954 --> 00:09:41,874 Speaker 3: very minimal, very like black and white, no fuss. So 210 00:09:41,994 --> 00:09:47,354 Speaker 3: I lived and breathed these brands like for probably about 211 00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:50,314 Speaker 3: four years. So that and then then and then the 212 00:09:50,354 --> 00:09:53,594 Speaker 3: next major thing was having kids. Yeah, oh that changes everything. 213 00:09:53,714 --> 00:09:56,194 Speaker 3: That just changes your whole life. But also yes, yes, 214 00:09:56,514 --> 00:09:58,354 Speaker 3: well you don't have time to be like I used to, 215 00:09:58,394 --> 00:10:00,634 Speaker 3: like lay my clothes out, try it all on the 216 00:10:00,714 --> 00:10:01,274 Speaker 3: night before. 217 00:10:01,314 --> 00:10:02,234 Speaker 2: You don't have time for that. 218 00:10:03,074 --> 00:10:04,234 Speaker 1: I do it in my head and then I got 219 00:10:04,274 --> 00:10:04,594 Speaker 1: to put it. 220 00:10:06,194 --> 00:10:07,714 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's interesting you. 221 00:10:07,634 --> 00:10:09,154 Speaker 1: Say that about the AUSSI market. I think because we 222 00:10:09,194 --> 00:10:11,874 Speaker 1: have such a small population in relation to a lot 223 00:10:11,874 --> 00:10:15,874 Speaker 1: of the you know, overseas markets, our retailers and brands 224 00:10:15,874 --> 00:10:18,114 Speaker 1: don't take as many risks because they just can't make 225 00:10:18,154 --> 00:10:20,434 Speaker 1: that many styles and then sell that many skews. So 226 00:10:20,794 --> 00:10:23,394 Speaker 1: we have a limited choice. But I think that's almost 227 00:10:23,594 --> 00:10:25,834 Speaker 1: easier for us. I mean now we shop like like 228 00:10:25,874 --> 00:10:29,474 Speaker 1: you say, Instagram and every website, chips everywhere. Yes, but 229 00:10:29,554 --> 00:10:32,274 Speaker 1: it's opened up more choice, which is more confusing. Yes, 230 00:10:41,354 --> 00:10:45,114 Speaker 1: so we're talking about styling, not shopping, so feeling good 231 00:10:45,154 --> 00:10:47,833 Speaker 1: in clothes that we're not buying new things. I mean 232 00:10:47,834 --> 00:10:50,954 Speaker 1: that's pretty self explanatory, but can you elaborate on what 233 00:10:50,954 --> 00:10:53,234 Speaker 1: we mean by that. You know, the average person probably 234 00:10:53,234 --> 00:10:55,154 Speaker 1: doesn't think so much about styling. They know what a 235 00:10:55,194 --> 00:10:58,234 Speaker 1: stylist is, but they just put their goes on and go. Yeah. 236 00:10:58,434 --> 00:11:00,994 Speaker 1: So what is styling when it comes to you know 237 00:11:01,074 --> 00:11:03,194 Speaker 1: us every day women that are in our wardrobes. 238 00:11:02,754 --> 00:11:04,714 Speaker 3: In the morning a lot of the time when I 239 00:11:04,754 --> 00:11:06,874 Speaker 3: am speaking to my clients and every then it's like 240 00:11:06,914 --> 00:11:10,074 Speaker 3: the have the they'll have their options in the wardrobe 241 00:11:10,194 --> 00:11:13,354 Speaker 3: is just how to pay them together. It's about you know, 242 00:11:13,434 --> 00:11:18,034 Speaker 3: that contrast of baggie and slim and you know, structured 243 00:11:18,154 --> 00:11:23,074 Speaker 3: and relax. It's about balance and proportion as well. 244 00:11:23,474 --> 00:11:24,114 Speaker 2: A lot of. 245 00:11:24,034 --> 00:11:27,794 Speaker 3: People, you know, you know, body type is Dressing for 246 00:11:27,834 --> 00:11:31,514 Speaker 3: your body type is like maybe a bit people believe 247 00:11:31,514 --> 00:11:35,314 Speaker 3: in it, people don't. But I think knowledge is key 248 00:11:35,434 --> 00:11:38,714 Speaker 3: in that department when it comes to your body type. 249 00:11:38,834 --> 00:11:40,314 Speaker 2: You might not dress. 250 00:11:40,114 --> 00:11:45,074 Speaker 3: Exactly like these types, but understanding what suits you and 251 00:11:45,594 --> 00:11:49,314 Speaker 3: your body in terms of balance and proportion is really 252 00:11:49,474 --> 00:11:50,114 Speaker 3: really key. 253 00:11:50,194 --> 00:11:52,594 Speaker 1: You feel good. I think you feel good. You can 254 00:11:52,634 --> 00:11:55,754 Speaker 1: go okay, oh I do like Eyeline and maybe yeah 255 00:11:56,114 --> 00:11:57,994 Speaker 1: just as good. It's because it gives me this shape. 256 00:11:58,114 --> 00:12:01,194 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's understanding and a lot of people don't understand that. 257 00:12:01,314 --> 00:12:03,634 Speaker 3: I always say to my clients, it's like, it's like 258 00:12:03,714 --> 00:12:04,714 Speaker 3: dressing a bedroom. 259 00:12:04,834 --> 00:12:06,754 Speaker 2: You know, you don't put all your furniture at the 260 00:12:06,794 --> 00:12:09,634 Speaker 2: ones side. You know, you've got to balance it. 261 00:12:09,634 --> 00:12:11,194 Speaker 1: All out right, analogy. 262 00:12:11,314 --> 00:12:14,914 Speaker 3: Yeah, And because people know how to dress a bedroom amazingly. 263 00:12:14,994 --> 00:12:17,154 Speaker 2: You've got your bed in the center, You've. 264 00:12:16,954 --> 00:12:20,354 Speaker 3: Got your two bedside tables, You've got your lamps, but 265 00:12:20,434 --> 00:12:22,634 Speaker 3: your lamps, you know, they have to be in proportion 266 00:12:22,994 --> 00:12:23,994 Speaker 3: with your bedside. 267 00:12:24,034 --> 00:12:26,274 Speaker 2: You don't have this. So it's kind of like that 268 00:12:26,314 --> 00:12:27,474 Speaker 2: when you're dressing your body. 269 00:12:27,514 --> 00:12:30,114 Speaker 3: So the more you understand about your body, it's not 270 00:12:30,194 --> 00:12:33,874 Speaker 3: restriction when it comes to body tight it's just understanding 271 00:12:33,914 --> 00:12:34,874 Speaker 3: it and the proportion. 272 00:12:35,274 --> 00:12:35,474 Speaker 2: Yeah. 273 00:12:36,074 --> 00:12:37,394 Speaker 1: You know, if you look at the items you wear 274 00:12:37,434 --> 00:12:39,914 Speaker 1: a lot, like you're ten percent, you know, ninety percent 275 00:12:39,954 --> 00:12:41,714 Speaker 1: of the time, it's probably like, Okay, well those do 276 00:12:41,954 --> 00:12:44,154 Speaker 1: fit my proportions because I feel great in them. Yeah, 277 00:12:44,234 --> 00:12:45,354 Speaker 1: therefore I can start there. 278 00:12:45,714 --> 00:12:47,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's just kind of mixing and match 279 00:12:47,874 --> 00:12:49,874 Speaker 3: and with that. So it's like if I'm wearing I'm 280 00:12:49,874 --> 00:12:52,474 Speaker 3: wearing baggy jeans, I'm going to wear a slim a 281 00:12:52,514 --> 00:12:54,634 Speaker 3: slim T shirt with that and It's like if I 282 00:12:54,994 --> 00:12:57,954 Speaker 3: was going to wear an oversized blazer, but the oversized 283 00:12:57,954 --> 00:13:01,394 Speaker 3: blazer and the oversized jeans just looked too too much 284 00:13:01,394 --> 00:13:02,954 Speaker 3: for my proportion and petite. 285 00:13:02,954 --> 00:13:05,194 Speaker 2: So I just need to watch that and balance it out. Yeah, 286 00:13:05,234 --> 00:13:06,194 Speaker 2: so a crop. 287 00:13:05,994 --> 00:13:10,034 Speaker 3: Jacket here, slammer jacket, you know, felt much better for 288 00:13:10,194 --> 00:13:13,234 Speaker 3: me in my petite frame. So it's just understanding that. 289 00:13:13,554 --> 00:13:16,434 Speaker 3: And then it's those little style in details like pulling 290 00:13:16,474 --> 00:13:17,274 Speaker 3: the sleeves. 291 00:13:16,954 --> 00:13:21,434 Speaker 1: Off, yes, rolling the sleeves, yeah, to do that in general? 292 00:13:21,514 --> 00:13:23,274 Speaker 1: Do you think I really know? How? 293 00:13:23,674 --> 00:13:25,394 Speaker 2: I think it is a bit of a nuisance. 294 00:13:25,394 --> 00:13:28,674 Speaker 3: And that's where I'm like, if I hope to manage Yeah, 295 00:13:28,874 --> 00:13:31,594 Speaker 3: I kind of say to my clients like I am like, 296 00:13:31,834 --> 00:13:35,114 Speaker 3: I don't like to manage my clothes. You know, they 297 00:13:35,154 --> 00:13:38,154 Speaker 3: should work for me or the other way around. But 298 00:13:38,234 --> 00:13:41,354 Speaker 3: like even just texture, like find a different textures. Find 299 00:13:41,674 --> 00:13:45,554 Speaker 3: this is quite like a casual element, you know, but 300 00:13:45,754 --> 00:13:48,354 Speaker 3: with a studied bell, it's just kind of finding that 301 00:13:48,474 --> 00:13:52,234 Speaker 3: anchor piece. Okay, baggage and slim t shirt, you know, 302 00:13:52,434 --> 00:13:57,514 Speaker 3: crop jacket, studied bell, it's mexical march in your wardrobe. 303 00:13:57,714 --> 00:13:59,794 Speaker 1: Does that make to people generally that you come across 304 00:13:59,914 --> 00:14:01,514 Speaker 1: you know, have they have the great pieces, but it's 305 00:14:01,554 --> 00:14:03,834 Speaker 1: the putting the whole thing together. Is that the hardest part. 306 00:14:04,074 --> 00:14:05,554 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really the hardest part. 307 00:14:05,594 --> 00:14:08,074 Speaker 3: And then it's the it's the little style in details 308 00:14:08,114 --> 00:14:10,274 Speaker 3: that people don't really kind of understand. 309 00:14:10,394 --> 00:14:11,914 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's. 310 00:14:13,074 --> 00:14:15,554 Speaker 1: Yeah, part of your job is to help people as 311 00:14:15,554 --> 00:14:17,914 Speaker 1: a stylist, but not necessarily shopping, as you said before, 312 00:14:17,954 --> 00:14:21,074 Speaker 1: which is really refreshing because I think people think personal stylists, 313 00:14:21,074 --> 00:14:22,754 Speaker 1: first thing, I have to be really rich, and secondly 314 00:14:22,754 --> 00:14:23,994 Speaker 1: I have to go and buy a lot of stuff. 315 00:14:24,634 --> 00:14:27,474 Speaker 1: So what do you see when you come across a 316 00:14:27,514 --> 00:14:30,474 Speaker 1: new client. Is it that they really, like we said before, 317 00:14:31,114 --> 00:14:33,714 Speaker 1: just have shopped or have their clothes pre existing from 318 00:14:33,714 --> 00:14:37,194 Speaker 1: a previous life. Duplicates? I know my duplicate problem is 319 00:14:37,194 --> 00:14:39,954 Speaker 1: that I really love denim shirts, white T shirts, jeans, 320 00:14:40,074 --> 00:14:42,714 Speaker 1: and I don't need anymore. But I just they talk 321 00:14:42,834 --> 00:14:44,714 Speaker 1: to me, they say I love you, and I say 322 00:14:44,754 --> 00:14:46,234 Speaker 1: I love you too, and I take it home and 323 00:14:46,274 --> 00:14:48,274 Speaker 1: then it joins an orgy with all the other shirts. 324 00:14:48,834 --> 00:14:51,754 Speaker 1: So like, is that just me? 325 00:14:52,954 --> 00:14:56,834 Speaker 3: Duplicates are massive with my clients, and you know before 326 00:14:56,834 --> 00:14:59,074 Speaker 3: what I started my John the in terms of minimalism 327 00:14:59,154 --> 00:15:01,874 Speaker 3: and things like that. Duplicates were massive for me. I 328 00:15:01,914 --> 00:15:04,394 Speaker 3: think I came to like fifteen pairs of blat jeans 329 00:15:04,434 --> 00:15:04,794 Speaker 3: and I was. 330 00:15:04,754 --> 00:15:08,234 Speaker 1: Like, good, okay, but I'm glad that it's it's ridiculous. 331 00:15:08,314 --> 00:15:09,234 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does happen. 332 00:15:09,354 --> 00:15:12,034 Speaker 3: So that's one thing I say when people when I'm 333 00:15:12,154 --> 00:15:14,714 Speaker 3: editing wardrobes or when I'm editing my own wardrobe, look 334 00:15:14,714 --> 00:15:15,554 Speaker 3: at your duplicates. 335 00:15:15,554 --> 00:15:17,554 Speaker 2: How many black jeans do you actually need? 336 00:15:18,074 --> 00:15:20,474 Speaker 3: You know? And I always say to my clients like, 337 00:15:20,594 --> 00:15:23,714 Speaker 3: if you were to reach for your favorite black jeans, 338 00:15:23,754 --> 00:15:25,994 Speaker 3: if you were going to I don't know, a meeting, 339 00:15:26,074 --> 00:15:27,194 Speaker 3: an event, and. 340 00:15:27,074 --> 00:15:28,754 Speaker 1: You've added to a black jean party and you have 341 00:15:28,794 --> 00:15:29,954 Speaker 1: to wear your very very. 342 00:15:31,634 --> 00:15:33,714 Speaker 3: Or your favorite whatever the item. 343 00:15:34,154 --> 00:15:38,354 Speaker 2: Yes, your your black blazer party. What are you going 344 00:15:38,394 --> 00:15:40,794 Speaker 2: to with black blazer? Are you going to reach for? Yes? 345 00:15:40,914 --> 00:15:43,874 Speaker 2: And great? But it's then why you know reaching for 346 00:15:43,914 --> 00:15:44,394 Speaker 2: the other one? 347 00:15:44,474 --> 00:15:47,474 Speaker 3: Yes, you know it could be fabric composition, you know, 348 00:15:47,594 --> 00:15:50,434 Speaker 3: so it just doesn't feel right in terms of netwear. 349 00:15:50,114 --> 00:15:50,994 Speaker 2: That does it etch? 350 00:15:51,114 --> 00:15:52,874 Speaker 1: You know? Yes, Oh my god, I've got so much 351 00:15:52,954 --> 00:15:55,274 Speaker 1: itching ittwear. But it was not shape. So then I 352 00:15:55,354 --> 00:15:57,674 Speaker 1: just keep it. Exactly when when I don't get itchy. 353 00:15:57,794 --> 00:16:02,514 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well in that for me, I sell, I sell, sell, sell, 354 00:16:02,594 --> 00:16:05,674 Speaker 3: and then I replace, you know, with the money that. 355 00:16:05,634 --> 00:16:08,354 Speaker 1: I've made, you know, and like I guess, you know, 356 00:16:08,434 --> 00:16:10,394 Speaker 1: say back to the black jeans. That's your thing or 357 00:16:10,394 --> 00:16:13,234 Speaker 1: that's someone's things. So you can have a couple of pairs, sir, 358 00:16:13,314 --> 00:16:15,714 Speaker 1: but you don't eat yeah, twenty Also that probably is 359 00:16:15,754 --> 00:16:17,514 Speaker 1: part of the problem. It's definitely part of mine, because 360 00:16:17,554 --> 00:16:21,234 Speaker 1: I just haven't nailed my like literal physical storage unless 361 00:16:21,274 --> 00:16:24,074 Speaker 1: I'm so in love with it that it's always on rotation. 362 00:16:24,194 --> 00:16:25,874 Speaker 1: If I can't say that I've got it, I just forget. 363 00:16:26,194 --> 00:16:28,554 Speaker 1: I have time to plan my outfits as much as 364 00:16:28,554 --> 00:16:30,154 Speaker 1: I used to, and so I just go into my 365 00:16:30,194 --> 00:16:33,274 Speaker 1: wardrobe and I go black jeans. Great, there's four pairs, 366 00:16:33,274 --> 00:16:36,154 Speaker 1: but I've got another four pairs somewhere, and there might 367 00:16:36,194 --> 00:16:38,354 Speaker 1: be a really great pair there that I just haven't 368 00:16:38,354 --> 00:16:40,754 Speaker 1: stored the right. So do people, you know, struggle with that. 369 00:16:40,994 --> 00:16:43,634 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's kind of like, say, a main thing, 370 00:16:43,754 --> 00:16:46,554 Speaker 2: isn't it. I always like your ginns, you know. 371 00:16:46,674 --> 00:16:49,834 Speaker 3: I always organized by cartoque, and when I go into 372 00:16:49,834 --> 00:16:52,434 Speaker 3: people's wardrobes as well, that's what we do. 373 00:16:52,234 --> 00:16:53,994 Speaker 2: We do it by cartogue, by collar. 374 00:16:54,154 --> 00:16:56,434 Speaker 3: So if you are looking for thoorse I don't know 375 00:16:56,554 --> 00:16:59,114 Speaker 3: red trosals, You're gonna go to. 376 00:16:58,154 --> 00:17:00,114 Speaker 1: The red Houser section. 377 00:17:00,314 --> 00:17:00,674 Speaker 2: Yes. 378 00:17:00,834 --> 00:17:03,634 Speaker 3: And then as a mart of editing, So when I 379 00:17:03,674 --> 00:17:06,313 Speaker 3: go into people's wardrobes, I know their body sheep, I 380 00:17:06,354 --> 00:17:09,394 Speaker 3: know their color, would colors suit them? Color analysis, and 381 00:17:09,434 --> 00:17:12,834 Speaker 3: then I'll go into their wardrobe and we can eliminate 382 00:17:12,874 --> 00:17:16,074 Speaker 3: anything that does not suit their body shape, doesn't suit 383 00:17:16,074 --> 00:17:18,314 Speaker 3: their coloring, if they are comfortable with that. 384 00:17:18,914 --> 00:17:20,354 Speaker 2: And then you know. 385 00:17:20,354 --> 00:17:24,274 Speaker 3: I look for is are too much statement pieces and 386 00:17:24,434 --> 00:17:26,834 Speaker 3: you don't have anything to balance it out with? Is 387 00:17:26,874 --> 00:17:30,354 Speaker 3: are too much slouchy and you don't have any structured Therefore, 388 00:17:30,554 --> 00:17:33,914 Speaker 3: you know things like that I'm looking before, and the 389 00:17:33,954 --> 00:17:36,634 Speaker 3: gaps in their wardrobe. I also tell them to put 390 00:17:36,714 --> 00:17:41,874 Speaker 3: like a whale together of their ten favorite pieces, their 391 00:17:41,994 --> 00:17:46,994 Speaker 3: most warm pieces. That's your style, that's your everyday life. 392 00:17:47,474 --> 00:17:50,874 Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's who you are. You could then upgrade 393 00:17:50,914 --> 00:17:53,914 Speaker 3: it you as in, I wear that, but there's a 394 00:17:53,914 --> 00:17:54,434 Speaker 3: hole in. 395 00:17:54,314 --> 00:17:56,194 Speaker 1: It, Yes, okay, find a new one. 396 00:17:56,274 --> 00:17:58,833 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like buy into that, like's invest in it. 397 00:17:59,314 --> 00:18:01,674 Speaker 3: Then I also get them to maybe pull ten pieces 398 00:18:01,714 --> 00:18:03,874 Speaker 3: that they really struggle with and then we go through 399 00:18:03,914 --> 00:18:08,394 Speaker 3: that process. It could be coloring, it could be like 400 00:18:08,594 --> 00:18:10,554 Speaker 3: proportion wise, it doesn't work them. 401 00:18:10,434 --> 00:18:12,074 Speaker 1: You know, it might be worth keeping, but you'll show 402 00:18:12,074 --> 00:18:13,553 Speaker 1: them how to put it with the top or the. 403 00:18:13,554 --> 00:18:16,114 Speaker 3: Bottom, and that's the styling thing. Yeah, and then that's 404 00:18:16,114 --> 00:18:17,593 Speaker 3: when we can come up with different eight. Yeah, it's 405 00:18:17,594 --> 00:18:18,594 Speaker 3: a different formulas. 406 00:18:18,674 --> 00:18:20,714 Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like back to the styling thing. I 407 00:18:20,754 --> 00:18:22,754 Speaker 1: think I've got a lot of friends who obviously don't 408 00:18:22,754 --> 00:18:24,634 Speaker 1: work in this industry, you know, the doctors or lawyers, 409 00:18:24,634 --> 00:18:26,834 Speaker 1: and in their head they go that top goes with 410 00:18:26,914 --> 00:18:29,234 Speaker 1: that bottom like to like to go, oh, that could 411 00:18:29,274 --> 00:18:30,994 Speaker 1: go with that. They're like, oh, but it doesn't like 412 00:18:31,034 --> 00:18:32,714 Speaker 1: I didn't buy them together or I didn't buy them 413 00:18:32,714 --> 00:18:34,674 Speaker 1: at the same time, I've never thought of Yes, but 414 00:18:34,874 --> 00:18:38,394 Speaker 1: sometimes the most you know, unexpected or wonderful outfits of 415 00:18:38,474 --> 00:18:40,954 Speaker 1: things you already own just not tried together yet. 416 00:18:41,114 --> 00:18:43,314 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's just really pleaying with your wardrobe. 417 00:18:43,434 --> 00:18:45,154 Speaker 3: But it's not having too much on there because then 418 00:18:45,194 --> 00:18:46,314 Speaker 3: it's like going to a restaurant. 419 00:18:46,354 --> 00:18:46,793 Speaker 2: It's too much. 420 00:18:47,034 --> 00:18:48,394 Speaker 1: I got to hate it. 421 00:18:48,394 --> 00:18:50,794 Speaker 2: It's like, just give me. I just stopped five. 422 00:18:50,954 --> 00:18:53,194 Speaker 1: I follow my instinct and if I don't I order 423 00:18:53,234 --> 00:18:55,194 Speaker 1: the first thing that you know caught my eye. Otherwise 424 00:18:55,234 --> 00:18:57,514 Speaker 1: if I keep looking, then I get regret. Then yeah, 425 00:18:57,674 --> 00:18:59,474 Speaker 1: or you go to the thing that you like, you 426 00:18:59,474 --> 00:19:00,793 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, well I do. I go 427 00:19:00,834 --> 00:19:03,914 Speaker 1: see the sulib A chip and I don't always want that, 428 00:19:03,954 --> 00:19:04,314 Speaker 1: but I go. 429 00:19:04,514 --> 00:19:06,833 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just too much confusion. True, it's just too 430 00:19:06,914 --> 00:19:08,313 Speaker 2: much confusiologies. 431 00:19:08,474 --> 00:19:11,674 Speaker 1: Okay, So you're helping me with one of your sessions, 432 00:19:11,674 --> 00:19:13,874 Speaker 1: and I pull out five things that I haven't worn 433 00:19:13,954 --> 00:19:16,714 Speaker 1: in a year, but I am hesitant to let go 434 00:19:16,754 --> 00:19:19,554 Speaker 1: of maybe it's no not maybe that they're expensive. I 435 00:19:19,634 --> 00:19:21,074 Speaker 1: really like them, but I don't know what to do. 436 00:19:21,314 --> 00:19:23,593 Speaker 1: How do you help me there? Before I have to 437 00:19:23,674 --> 00:19:25,954 Speaker 1: sell or donate, not have to You wouldn't force me, 438 00:19:25,994 --> 00:19:30,154 Speaker 1: but you know, before the donate discussion is raised? Yes, 439 00:19:30,234 --> 00:19:31,874 Speaker 1: what do we do with pieces that we love but 440 00:19:31,994 --> 00:19:32,954 Speaker 1: don't know how to wear? 441 00:19:33,434 --> 00:19:33,714 Speaker 2: Okay? 442 00:19:33,714 --> 00:19:37,474 Speaker 3: So then falsely, we're going to see if proportions, you know, 443 00:19:37,634 --> 00:19:41,394 Speaker 3: so ifc as I don't know a red blazer, red 444 00:19:41,434 --> 00:19:43,833 Speaker 3: boxy blazer, you know, then we're going to look at 445 00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:47,074 Speaker 3: your wardrobe. Maybe those ten items that I've said previously 446 00:19:47,114 --> 00:19:49,994 Speaker 3: that you constantly wear, Yes, we can maxim march Bark 447 00:19:50,034 --> 00:19:50,954 Speaker 3: with that, yes, you know. 448 00:19:51,634 --> 00:19:52,594 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 449 00:19:52,674 --> 00:19:56,074 Speaker 3: So whenever I buy like a trend piece, which is 450 00:19:56,194 --> 00:19:58,874 Speaker 3: very really but I may do it, I march at 451 00:19:58,914 --> 00:20:02,114 Speaker 3: Bark with my basics because I'm comfortable in my basics 452 00:20:02,634 --> 00:20:04,674 Speaker 3: and that trend piece may be about load for me. 453 00:20:04,834 --> 00:20:05,074 Speaker 1: Sure. 454 00:20:05,154 --> 00:20:07,394 Speaker 3: The way that I can get around at yeah is 455 00:20:07,514 --> 00:20:09,034 Speaker 3: muching at bart with my basics. 456 00:20:09,034 --> 00:20:11,114 Speaker 1: So you which makes it then your personal style? 457 00:20:11,314 --> 00:20:13,754 Speaker 3: Yes, and it makes it more comfortable. It's like it's 458 00:20:13,754 --> 00:20:15,794 Speaker 3: not as loud as you know it does. You don't 459 00:20:15,834 --> 00:20:17,914 Speaker 3: have to have five trained pieces on it the same time. 460 00:20:17,954 --> 00:20:20,513 Speaker 3: It could just be one standout piece. That's why I 461 00:20:20,674 --> 00:20:24,074 Speaker 3: always say to my clients, choose one standout piece. So 462 00:20:24,154 --> 00:20:28,313 Speaker 3: that's real normally typically as stand out pieces that they 463 00:20:28,314 --> 00:20:32,914 Speaker 3: don't know how to stay right. So much about with 464 00:20:32,954 --> 00:20:35,674 Speaker 3: your basics. Make sure that you're getting those proportions right. 465 00:20:35,754 --> 00:20:39,274 Speaker 3: If it's slouchy, much about with something kind of like slim, 466 00:20:39,354 --> 00:20:42,394 Speaker 3: if it's structured, makes it back with something you know. 467 00:20:43,074 --> 00:20:46,273 Speaker 1: Structured, yes, kind of like the opposite in a way, yeah, yes, 468 00:20:46,554 --> 00:20:48,194 Speaker 1: And so that's if it's you know, it's still in 469 00:20:48,234 --> 00:20:50,154 Speaker 1: good condition and it fits them. If it's something that's 470 00:20:50,234 --> 00:20:52,234 Speaker 1: just you know, I'm going to get that thin again 471 00:20:52,354 --> 00:20:55,154 Speaker 1: or whatever. I think that's just taken out of the 472 00:20:55,154 --> 00:20:57,954 Speaker 1: equation because otherwise adding the confusion, and so I think 473 00:20:58,194 --> 00:21:00,513 Speaker 1: sometimes there's guilt there for the cost of the item 474 00:21:00,594 --> 00:21:02,274 Speaker 1: or whatever it may be, or that you're not who 475 00:21:02,274 --> 00:21:04,634 Speaker 1: you were before. Yeah, and that stuff's just never going 476 00:21:04,674 --> 00:21:05,154 Speaker 1: to get warm. 477 00:21:05,234 --> 00:21:06,154 Speaker 2: It's never going to get warm. 478 00:21:06,154 --> 00:21:09,354 Speaker 3: And if you deep down a lot of people know 479 00:21:09,594 --> 00:21:11,553 Speaker 3: deep down whether they're going to wear it or not. 480 00:21:11,714 --> 00:21:13,234 Speaker 2: It's how it makes you feel as well. 481 00:21:13,394 --> 00:21:15,513 Speaker 3: Yes, Like for me, I've got to feel comfortable and 482 00:21:15,554 --> 00:21:18,714 Speaker 3: I'm going to feel confident if it's like for instance, 483 00:21:18,874 --> 00:21:20,314 Speaker 3: I had a kind of a scar. 484 00:21:20,474 --> 00:21:22,394 Speaker 2: I love Meddy Scots, but it was a bit like 485 00:21:22,634 --> 00:21:23,954 Speaker 2: structured at the waistband. 486 00:21:24,354 --> 00:21:27,274 Speaker 3: Therefore, I was a bit conscious of my tommy now 487 00:21:27,354 --> 00:21:29,274 Speaker 3: standing in front of the mirror. I was like, oh, yeah, 488 00:21:29,274 --> 00:21:31,714 Speaker 3: it looks good. But when you're out every day life 489 00:21:31,914 --> 00:21:32,634 Speaker 3: and you eat. 490 00:21:34,394 --> 00:21:37,594 Speaker 1: Half the time. I get in the car, but I'm 491 00:21:37,594 --> 00:21:38,714 Speaker 1: wearing this all day. 492 00:21:38,794 --> 00:21:42,234 Speaker 3: And then you're just constantly like adjusting, and you know, 493 00:21:42,354 --> 00:21:44,273 Speaker 3: my bag was always in front of my tommy and 494 00:21:44,274 --> 00:21:45,234 Speaker 3: I that's it. 495 00:21:45,234 --> 00:21:48,314 Speaker 2: There's no more of that, yes, But then maybe get stuff. 496 00:21:48,034 --> 00:21:53,593 Speaker 3: All to like I'm constantly it yeah, or even like 497 00:21:53,754 --> 00:21:56,194 Speaker 3: I have a dress and I'm like, I'm never going 498 00:21:56,274 --> 00:21:59,353 Speaker 3: to wear that dress because it's quite strappy and I 499 00:21:59,394 --> 00:22:01,634 Speaker 3: have larger boobs I need, Brad, That's why did I 500 00:22:01,674 --> 00:22:04,074 Speaker 3: buy that dress in the first place. However, it would 501 00:22:04,074 --> 00:22:06,194 Speaker 3: look amazing as a scar you know, yeah, you know, 502 00:22:06,314 --> 00:22:09,754 Speaker 3: get and I look at shop it off, like those 503 00:22:09,834 --> 00:22:12,394 Speaker 3: trousers that are so long but you like the shape 504 00:22:12,394 --> 00:22:13,474 Speaker 3: of them, you know. 505 00:22:13,994 --> 00:22:14,594 Speaker 2: Chop them off. 506 00:22:14,634 --> 00:22:16,674 Speaker 3: If you get an old paid of trousers, can you 507 00:22:16,714 --> 00:22:17,954 Speaker 3: put them into a long shot? 508 00:22:18,154 --> 00:22:18,313 Speaker 1: You know? 509 00:22:18,434 --> 00:22:19,114 Speaker 2: Things like that? 510 00:22:19,394 --> 00:22:21,474 Speaker 1: My god, I can. I've got some white like pants 511 00:22:21,474 --> 00:22:24,394 Speaker 1: that I have never decided on a link, so they're 512 00:22:24,434 --> 00:22:26,033 Speaker 1: not good for flights, are not good for heels, but 513 00:22:26,234 --> 00:22:26,914 Speaker 1: oh my god. 514 00:22:27,114 --> 00:22:29,513 Speaker 3: And then if it's like right, no, it's a no, 515 00:22:29,794 --> 00:22:30,794 Speaker 3: just give it to somebody else. 516 00:22:30,874 --> 00:22:32,754 Speaker 2: They'll love it, yes, you know. And then with the 517 00:22:32,794 --> 00:22:35,594 Speaker 2: money potches something, and you may. 518 00:22:35,554 --> 00:22:37,474 Speaker 1: Get about it once it's gone to get thinks I 519 00:22:37,474 --> 00:22:39,194 Speaker 1: got all that jacket, was really expensed about wear it 520 00:22:39,194 --> 00:22:41,634 Speaker 1: this winter, and then I say it later and I go, oh, oh, 521 00:22:41,954 --> 00:22:45,794 Speaker 1: it's maybe next winter. But I'm letting the guilt override 522 00:22:45,554 --> 00:22:47,634 Speaker 1: the relief of moving it on. 523 00:22:47,834 --> 00:22:49,474 Speaker 3: Yes, it's kind of like when we spend money, we 524 00:22:49,514 --> 00:22:50,954 Speaker 3: don't think about it again doing. 525 00:22:50,954 --> 00:22:55,234 Speaker 1: No, Well, I see it in my wardrobe exactly, even 526 00:22:55,274 --> 00:22:55,914 Speaker 1: if you were wrong. 527 00:22:56,354 --> 00:22:57,434 Speaker 2: Yeah, just gip. 528 00:22:57,594 --> 00:23:00,754 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it takes a whale. It really does 529 00:23:00,834 --> 00:23:03,234 Speaker 3: take a while to get into that kind of mindset. 530 00:23:03,554 --> 00:23:06,954 Speaker 3: I mean, I've I think as it's probably I started 531 00:23:06,954 --> 00:23:09,354 Speaker 3: it when my daughter was just born at seven. 532 00:23:09,434 --> 00:23:11,034 Speaker 2: That's when I can I create seven. 533 00:23:11,354 --> 00:23:14,553 Speaker 1: Yes, oh my son's about twenty seven, Okay, I can 534 00:23:14,634 --> 00:23:14,874 Speaker 1: do this. 535 00:23:14,994 --> 00:23:17,033 Speaker 2: He's gone on seventeen yeers. 536 00:23:17,914 --> 00:23:19,834 Speaker 3: But I was like very okay, So that's when I 537 00:23:19,874 --> 00:23:23,354 Speaker 3: really struck my wardrobe bark looked at those items that 538 00:23:23,434 --> 00:23:25,234 Speaker 3: I was you know, I. 539 00:23:25,154 --> 00:23:26,474 Speaker 2: Would create mood balls. Yeah. 540 00:23:26,554 --> 00:23:28,674 Speaker 3: I would be like, oh, there's the common denomine. And 541 00:23:28,674 --> 00:23:30,074 Speaker 3: I do love a black gean, I love a white 542 00:23:30,114 --> 00:23:32,634 Speaker 3: T shirt and love a blizzer. Look at them and 543 00:23:32,674 --> 00:23:36,634 Speaker 3: then it's then just can allow on them from your mistake. 544 00:23:36,914 --> 00:23:39,074 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and taking a beat. I've got to learn 545 00:23:39,074 --> 00:23:40,234 Speaker 1: to take a beat, and I think a lot of 546 00:23:40,234 --> 00:23:42,714 Speaker 1: people do because you just like I was saying to 547 00:23:42,714 --> 00:23:44,714 Speaker 1: you off air, I love thrifting, but that's not whole 548 00:23:44,794 --> 00:23:46,834 Speaker 1: nother problem. You know, sure it's not fast fashion or 549 00:23:46,834 --> 00:23:48,914 Speaker 1: it might be first fashion, it's second time round. But 550 00:23:48,914 --> 00:23:51,234 Speaker 1: then I'm like, that's an amazing dentim shirt. Oh my god, 551 00:23:51,234 --> 00:23:52,754 Speaker 1: the price, oh my god, it's in such a good condition. 552 00:23:52,794 --> 00:23:54,594 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I can't leave it. It feels like 553 00:23:54,634 --> 00:23:57,034 Speaker 1: a little orphan shirt that I you know, and I 554 00:23:57,074 --> 00:23:59,714 Speaker 1: think I don't need another one? Yes, And I think 555 00:24:00,114 --> 00:24:03,354 Speaker 1: just like now or ever, Yeah, I think the whole 556 00:24:03,474 --> 00:24:06,874 Speaker 1: pre loved is absolute amazing if you're looking for something, yes, 557 00:24:07,154 --> 00:24:09,314 Speaker 1: you desperately need, like you love it for like Disna 558 00:24:09,394 --> 00:24:12,234 Speaker 1: harmbugs and Diziner shoes and things, but more intentional than 559 00:24:12,314 --> 00:24:14,754 Speaker 1: just popping into your Viney's and seeing an amazing thing 560 00:24:14,834 --> 00:24:15,914 Speaker 1: but you don't really need it. 561 00:24:16,074 --> 00:24:18,754 Speaker 2: Yeah? Is it just again? Is it just their impulse? 562 00:24:18,834 --> 00:24:19,354 Speaker 2: Is it there is? 563 00:24:19,594 --> 00:24:22,154 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just the best thing in Vinnie's, but it's 564 00:24:22,194 --> 00:24:23,994 Speaker 1: not the thing that you would buy. 565 00:24:24,034 --> 00:24:24,794 Speaker 2: Well exactly. 566 00:24:24,994 --> 00:24:27,674 Speaker 3: It's like, just because it's pre loved doesn't mean to 567 00:24:27,714 --> 00:24:29,394 Speaker 3: say that we actually. 568 00:24:29,034 --> 00:24:31,714 Speaker 1: Need it and let someone else love it pre loved. 569 00:24:31,594 --> 00:24:33,034 Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, so true? 570 00:24:33,074 --> 00:24:35,033 Speaker 3: Are you actually going to wear it? Or is just 571 00:24:35,354 --> 00:24:38,434 Speaker 3: it's pre loved just another fast fashion yeah. 572 00:24:38,314 --> 00:24:41,954 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're so right. Okay, so not everyone 573 00:24:42,154 --> 00:24:43,954 Speaker 1: can have a U well they can't actually, but you 574 00:24:43,994 --> 00:24:46,314 Speaker 1: know a lot of people after listening to this podcast 575 00:24:46,314 --> 00:24:49,154 Speaker 1: are sometimes inspired to shop. But we're not doing that now, 576 00:24:49,274 --> 00:24:51,874 Speaker 1: but to go into the world and go, right, what 577 00:24:52,074 --> 00:24:54,874 Speaker 1: is my problem? You know, maybe we've identified it is 578 00:24:54,954 --> 00:24:57,434 Speaker 1: impulse purchase or whatever, but we've got what we've got 579 00:24:57,474 --> 00:24:58,954 Speaker 1: in front of us that we're not wearing at all. 580 00:24:59,474 --> 00:25:02,874 Speaker 1: What can someone do this weekend or you know, in 581 00:25:02,914 --> 00:25:06,074 Speaker 1: the next few weeks days to start this process? Is 582 00:25:06,074 --> 00:25:07,954 Speaker 1: it literally put it in your on your unknees and 583 00:25:07,994 --> 00:25:10,274 Speaker 1: having a dress on session. Is it like playing dress 584 00:25:10,314 --> 00:25:11,074 Speaker 1: ups but you're the adult. 585 00:25:11,314 --> 00:25:11,674 Speaker 2: Yeah. 586 00:25:11,834 --> 00:25:14,874 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's basically getting into your wardrobe. As I teach 587 00:25:14,914 --> 00:25:16,354 Speaker 3: a lot of this on my Instagram account. 588 00:25:16,594 --> 00:25:18,914 Speaker 1: I love obsessed with your Instagram. I think it's the 589 00:25:18,914 --> 00:25:20,074 Speaker 1: best tape I've ever. 590 00:25:20,074 --> 00:25:23,914 Speaker 3: But I when I started this, John they I got 591 00:25:23,914 --> 00:25:26,754 Speaker 3: my whole wardrobe. I did a massive edit and I 592 00:25:26,834 --> 00:25:27,754 Speaker 3: was ruthless. 593 00:25:27,874 --> 00:25:30,553 Speaker 1: And did you try the Maybies? Did you try everything? 594 00:25:30,714 --> 00:25:32,234 Speaker 2: Yes? You know what you love? 595 00:25:32,434 --> 00:25:32,634 Speaker 1: Yes? 596 00:25:32,714 --> 00:25:34,594 Speaker 2: So you know what you love? That's fine. 597 00:25:34,674 --> 00:25:35,914 Speaker 1: Yeah, And if it's just come out of the wash, 598 00:25:35,954 --> 00:25:39,273 Speaker 1: it's probably likely that you love it and you wear it, yes, exactly, Yeah, 599 00:25:39,354 --> 00:25:42,714 Speaker 1: you know what you don't definitely, yeah, definitely. You know 600 00:25:42,794 --> 00:25:45,154 Speaker 1: what you don't like, it's probably the maybe's that you 601 00:25:45,314 --> 00:25:48,354 Speaker 1: have to get so stuck on the n yeah yeah yeah, 602 00:25:48,354 --> 00:25:51,034 Speaker 1: and then so I would maybe just concentrate on the 603 00:25:51,154 --> 00:25:54,553 Speaker 1: maybe and then what you don't like you can sell, 604 00:25:54,714 --> 00:25:56,754 Speaker 1: You can get read, give it to friends, have a 605 00:25:56,834 --> 00:25:59,434 Speaker 1: swap shot party. You've done that here at Mamame was 606 00:25:59,594 --> 00:26:00,794 Speaker 1: so good, doesn't it. 607 00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:01,514 Speaker 2: We've got one. 608 00:26:01,994 --> 00:26:03,994 Speaker 3: All the moms have got one scheduled soon as well, 609 00:26:04,074 --> 00:26:05,994 Speaker 3: so we're going to do that so that you it's 610 00:26:06,074 --> 00:26:11,354 Speaker 3: just that getting that except the shopping ye changing. Yeah yeah, 611 00:26:11,634 --> 00:26:14,914 Speaker 3: So but then it's probably the maybe's that you need 612 00:26:14,954 --> 00:26:15,554 Speaker 3: to then. 613 00:26:16,994 --> 00:26:20,154 Speaker 2: Yeah. Physically physically I hate it as well. 614 00:26:20,154 --> 00:26:22,794 Speaker 1: Oh good, okay, but I don't necessarily like it. 615 00:26:22,914 --> 00:26:25,354 Speaker 3: I really don't. But it's something like if you haven't 616 00:26:25,394 --> 00:26:29,114 Speaker 3: water in the last year, like check are you realistically 617 00:26:29,274 --> 00:26:31,074 Speaker 3: and like are you going to wear it? 618 00:26:31,514 --> 00:26:33,034 Speaker 1: You know, because you know when you have less time 619 00:26:33,114 --> 00:26:34,513 Speaker 1: is that morning when you want to wear it? But 620 00:26:34,594 --> 00:26:35,954 Speaker 1: you think, I've got to get out and those kids 621 00:26:35,954 --> 00:26:37,114 Speaker 1: are like for school, I've got to get it you're 622 00:26:37,114 --> 00:26:39,114 Speaker 1: not going to then try and try it on so 623 00:26:39,154 --> 00:26:41,114 Speaker 1: you think later but later it never come. 624 00:26:41,354 --> 00:26:41,714 Speaker 2: Yeah. 625 00:26:41,754 --> 00:26:45,434 Speaker 3: So what I would do is I would like really 626 00:26:45,834 --> 00:26:47,834 Speaker 3: devise my clients to be like, wait, okay, this is 627 00:26:47,874 --> 00:26:51,674 Speaker 3: your maybe pay and put it in your wardrobe with 628 00:26:51,834 --> 00:26:53,394 Speaker 3: the hunger face and. 629 00:26:53,194 --> 00:26:55,354 Speaker 1: You yes, I've heard of this, and then. 630 00:26:55,234 --> 00:26:58,273 Speaker 3: If you wear it, put it the other way and 631 00:26:58,274 --> 00:27:00,954 Speaker 3: then you're wearing it, you know, so you know that's 632 00:27:00,994 --> 00:27:04,034 Speaker 3: a agree And at the end of maybe give yourself 633 00:27:04,074 --> 00:27:04,793 Speaker 3: like a month. 634 00:27:05,074 --> 00:27:08,274 Speaker 2: If you've not worn it yet, yeah, then yeah, it's 635 00:27:08,354 --> 00:27:09,194 Speaker 2: like right, Okay. 636 00:27:09,394 --> 00:27:13,994 Speaker 3: Why I also say to clients is like, just really concentrate. 637 00:27:13,434 --> 00:27:14,914 Speaker 2: On what you were wearing day to day. 638 00:27:15,034 --> 00:27:17,274 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you find you know what you love, 639 00:27:17,594 --> 00:27:20,674 Speaker 3: You've had the best day in this dress, then absolutely fantastic. 640 00:27:20,714 --> 00:27:22,594 Speaker 1: Yeah. I wear a dressed yesterday that was very dressed 641 00:27:22,674 --> 00:27:24,114 Speaker 1: up for me to go to the doctors and I 642 00:27:24,154 --> 00:27:26,474 Speaker 1: was working for my home my husband, Oh you look nice, 643 00:27:26,634 --> 00:27:28,194 Speaker 1: and then I just felt so good all day because 644 00:27:28,234 --> 00:27:30,194 Speaker 1: I finally wore something that wasn't yeah, and I was 645 00:27:30,234 --> 00:27:32,994 Speaker 1: like yeah, and that was in my byby part. It 646 00:27:33,034 --> 00:27:35,954 Speaker 1: was my baby test for the day, amazing, like test it. 647 00:27:35,994 --> 00:27:38,874 Speaker 2: But then you also know what doesn't work. 648 00:27:38,914 --> 00:27:42,594 Speaker 3: So if you wear something and you're like, note that down, 649 00:27:42,714 --> 00:27:44,874 Speaker 3: what you don't Why you didn't like it? Why was 650 00:27:44,914 --> 00:27:46,954 Speaker 3: it too tight? And you taught me, so you're constantly 651 00:27:46,994 --> 00:27:49,554 Speaker 3: like pulling things down like not that. I always say 652 00:27:49,554 --> 00:27:52,154 Speaker 3: to my clients, you know what you love? That's easy, Yeah, 653 00:27:52,234 --> 00:27:55,594 Speaker 3: it's what it's like the things that you're wearing all day. 654 00:27:55,714 --> 00:27:57,634 Speaker 3: And then you're like, I just didn't feel right and 655 00:27:57,674 --> 00:28:01,994 Speaker 3: that then analyze that outfit, analyze that pace rather than 656 00:28:02,034 --> 00:28:04,914 Speaker 3: analyzing the things. Yeah, and you know, we put the 657 00:28:04,994 --> 00:28:07,914 Speaker 3: money towards something amazing, just harmbag. 658 00:28:08,354 --> 00:28:09,354 Speaker 2: I always say that. 659 00:28:09,474 --> 00:28:12,834 Speaker 3: And then the more that you're you really want to 660 00:28:12,834 --> 00:28:15,273 Speaker 3: see those those ten pieces that I said put on 661 00:28:15,314 --> 00:28:17,474 Speaker 3: a rail, they need to be at the forefront of 662 00:28:17,514 --> 00:28:19,594 Speaker 3: your wardrobe so that you're wearing them all the time, 663 00:28:20,354 --> 00:28:24,674 Speaker 3: and then you will eventually have a wardrobe that you love. 664 00:28:25,994 --> 00:28:27,234 Speaker 1: All kind of goes together. 665 00:28:27,394 --> 00:28:29,754 Speaker 3: And I also say it's like, do not let anybody 666 00:28:29,794 --> 00:28:32,634 Speaker 3: in that wardrobe that you know, like a party or 667 00:28:32,674 --> 00:28:33,314 Speaker 3: let your wedding. 668 00:28:33,434 --> 00:28:35,594 Speaker 2: You're not going to invite everybody to this occasion. 669 00:28:36,994 --> 00:28:40,034 Speaker 1: Yes, you have to be like a strict door policy. 670 00:28:39,034 --> 00:28:39,714 Speaker 1: The news that. 671 00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,874 Speaker 3: I have a bound set at my wardrobe door all 672 00:28:44,914 --> 00:28:47,114 Speaker 3: the time. You're not getting in here, and I don't 673 00:28:47,194 --> 00:28:48,274 Speaker 3: like I. 674 00:28:50,594 --> 00:28:51,274 Speaker 2: Bit crush. 675 00:28:51,714 --> 00:28:54,474 Speaker 1: I'm really try. I've gotten better slowly, but I just 676 00:28:54,514 --> 00:28:56,634 Speaker 1: am so impatient that I want myself to be like you. 677 00:28:56,714 --> 00:28:58,634 Speaker 1: But it sometimes the process you can't rush. 678 00:28:59,434 --> 00:29:01,594 Speaker 2: Seven years I'm still at it, Yeah, seven yeals. 679 00:29:01,634 --> 00:29:04,594 Speaker 3: And I went into Zara just before this, and I 680 00:29:04,714 --> 00:29:06,674 Speaker 3: never really show up in Zara, but I was like, 681 00:29:06,674 --> 00:29:08,794 Speaker 3: I'm just going to have a look kind of thing, 682 00:29:09,074 --> 00:29:11,274 Speaker 3: fast thing. I seen cigarette jeans. I need a pit 683 00:29:11,314 --> 00:29:14,034 Speaker 3: of cigarette jeans. Tried them on in the dressing room 684 00:29:14,194 --> 00:29:17,354 Speaker 3: and it was like there were too long the one 685 00:29:17,434 --> 00:29:20,394 Speaker 3: set and just perfect. There were a med rise. I 686 00:29:20,434 --> 00:29:22,914 Speaker 3: don't go on with med rises. I was like, could 687 00:29:22,954 --> 00:29:25,074 Speaker 3: I just wear a longer time? And you kind of 688 00:29:25,194 --> 00:29:27,394 Speaker 3: stop persuading yourself. You do? 689 00:29:27,634 --> 00:29:28,194 Speaker 2: You really do? 690 00:29:28,274 --> 00:29:30,114 Speaker 1: And I was like, there's an element you like. But 691 00:29:30,194 --> 00:29:32,514 Speaker 1: I love the wash. 692 00:29:32,554 --> 00:29:33,154 Speaker 2: I love this. 693 00:29:33,354 --> 00:29:36,474 Speaker 3: I love the slim straight cigarette and stale, but. 694 00:29:36,554 --> 00:29:38,754 Speaker 2: The rise and the length just on the right. 695 00:29:38,874 --> 00:29:40,914 Speaker 3: But maybe seven years ago I would have just went, 696 00:29:41,234 --> 00:29:42,434 Speaker 3: I'm going to make it work. 697 00:29:42,514 --> 00:29:44,914 Speaker 1: I would, yes, especially if it was on sale. 698 00:29:45,114 --> 00:29:47,674 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I just have to say to myself realistically, 699 00:29:47,794 --> 00:29:49,594 Speaker 3: some like are you going to wael this? 700 00:29:50,234 --> 00:29:52,394 Speaker 2: You're not, You're going to be You're going to hit 701 00:29:52,474 --> 00:29:52,834 Speaker 2: your mound. 702 00:29:53,194 --> 00:29:56,434 Speaker 1: We never wear it, and yeah, so now you know, 703 00:29:56,514 --> 00:30:10,194 Speaker 1: maybe you're on the lookout for the right pair. It's 704 00:30:10,354 --> 00:30:15,314 Speaker 1: very expensive, honey, how wondre these percent? Let's finish with 705 00:30:15,354 --> 00:30:17,514 Speaker 1: boushie and budget, which is a bit of a tricky 706 00:30:17,514 --> 00:30:19,874 Speaker 1: one because we're talking about not shopping. However, we're going 707 00:30:19,954 --> 00:30:24,034 Speaker 1: to justify why these items are so important in our wardrobe, 708 00:30:24,074 --> 00:30:26,794 Speaker 1: and that kind of bring everything together. I have a jacket, 709 00:30:26,794 --> 00:30:29,034 Speaker 1: You have a jacket. Yours is your budget. So let's 710 00:30:29,034 --> 00:30:29,994 Speaker 1: start with your jacket. 711 00:30:30,034 --> 00:30:33,034 Speaker 2: Then my jacket here is from Assembly Label. 712 00:30:33,234 --> 00:30:34,154 Speaker 1: I love Assembly Label. 713 00:30:34,194 --> 00:30:34,754 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 714 00:30:34,794 --> 00:30:37,394 Speaker 3: I just like discovered it a few months ago, just 715 00:30:37,474 --> 00:30:40,474 Speaker 3: arriving here, and I absolutely love air. But it's a bomber. 716 00:30:40,594 --> 00:30:43,514 Speaker 3: Bombers are really key. They are very It's kind of 717 00:30:43,554 --> 00:30:45,794 Speaker 3: like that trench fabe color. 718 00:30:46,034 --> 00:30:47,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it kind of feels classic. 719 00:30:47,754 --> 00:30:50,194 Speaker 1: Do you call that like a beige bay trench? Everyone 720 00:30:50,234 --> 00:30:51,034 Speaker 1: knows the beige trench? 721 00:30:51,354 --> 00:30:54,794 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, it just depends. I think, yeah you are, 722 00:30:54,914 --> 00:30:59,114 Speaker 3: but yeah, beige. But yeah, and it's got silver hardware. 723 00:30:59,114 --> 00:31:03,514 Speaker 3: Which I absolutely love. Is adjustable, Oh yeah, elastic, So 724 00:31:03,594 --> 00:31:06,434 Speaker 3: you can wear it kind of like as a little 725 00:31:06,554 --> 00:31:08,754 Speaker 3: short yeah, or you can win it as a bomber. 726 00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:11,034 Speaker 1: Yes, you can kind of pull in the side like 727 00:31:11,114 --> 00:31:12,954 Speaker 1: a bit of a barn jack. Yeah. 728 00:31:13,074 --> 00:31:13,914 Speaker 2: Has a double z app. 729 00:31:14,194 --> 00:31:16,754 Speaker 3: I often like to zapple all the way up and 730 00:31:16,834 --> 00:31:19,074 Speaker 3: then have there to show my waist to a long 731 00:31:19,114 --> 00:31:22,034 Speaker 3: gear my legs like two in one will sort of. 732 00:31:22,074 --> 00:31:25,394 Speaker 1: It's very yes, and although it's a casual jacket, it's 733 00:31:25,434 --> 00:31:27,794 Speaker 1: still like says you put in effort. I don't know, 734 00:31:27,834 --> 00:31:29,954 Speaker 1: you know, it's yeah, you bulled up card again, which 735 00:31:29,954 --> 00:31:34,434 Speaker 1: I end up wearing. Okay, well, my bougie is a jacket. 736 00:31:35,354 --> 00:31:37,794 Speaker 1: It was expensive I paid too much for However, I 737 00:31:37,834 --> 00:31:40,154 Speaker 1: love it, and I have to explain my social media 738 00:31:40,194 --> 00:31:42,954 Speaker 1: did get me. It's the brand's god future. Sure, I 739 00:31:42,994 --> 00:31:43,674 Speaker 1: think she's an. 740 00:31:43,714 --> 00:31:47,074 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's she's your kid. Okay, oh my god. 741 00:31:46,914 --> 00:31:49,754 Speaker 1: Ami, Okay, Amy. I don't know, but I love Amy. 742 00:31:49,834 --> 00:31:51,914 Speaker 1: So she has mastered marketing because you have to go 743 00:31:51,914 --> 00:31:54,274 Speaker 1: on a wait list and they limits. 744 00:31:54,594 --> 00:31:57,434 Speaker 2: She's just a one mine bund you know. Well, obviously 745 00:31:57,434 --> 00:31:58,754 Speaker 2: she gets that's what I thought. 746 00:31:58,754 --> 00:32:01,394 Speaker 1: She's a small business. So a bit of context about me, Sam, 747 00:32:01,394 --> 00:32:04,514 Speaker 1: because you need to Australia. I am incredibly forgetful. If 748 00:32:04,514 --> 00:32:06,434 Speaker 1: I don't lose my security pass twice a day, that's 749 00:32:06,474 --> 00:32:08,994 Speaker 1: a good day. I lose everything. I drop everything, and 750 00:32:09,034 --> 00:32:10,714 Speaker 1: you can't always have a handbag. And then if I've 751 00:32:10,714 --> 00:32:12,394 Speaker 1: bought an outfit on my outfit doesn't have pockets. 752 00:32:12,674 --> 00:32:13,194 Speaker 2: Oh night. 753 00:32:13,514 --> 00:32:15,354 Speaker 1: And then sometimes your phone will pull down your skirt 754 00:32:15,394 --> 00:32:17,994 Speaker 1: if you know, it's just not good. My son also 755 00:32:18,034 --> 00:32:20,274 Speaker 1: lives We literally live outside. You jump out of our 756 00:32:20,274 --> 00:32:23,314 Speaker 1: house crossing school. So sometimes I'm in my pajamas, like 757 00:32:23,354 --> 00:32:26,474 Speaker 1: literal pajamas when I drop him. And the reality of 758 00:32:26,474 --> 00:32:27,914 Speaker 1: my life is I look nice two days a week 759 00:32:27,914 --> 00:32:30,114 Speaker 1: and then I look like I just got out of bed. 760 00:32:30,314 --> 00:32:32,554 Speaker 1: So this jacket came out, it's the art and coat. 761 00:32:32,594 --> 00:32:35,074 Speaker 1: You probably know it, know it, And I watched it 762 00:32:35,154 --> 00:32:36,554 Speaker 1: and then I watched one drop cell out and I 763 00:32:36,594 --> 00:32:39,874 Speaker 1: was like, shit, it's got so many pockets. Now I'm 764 00:32:39,874 --> 00:32:42,474 Speaker 1: sitting in my jacket. If you hear my swishness in 765 00:32:42,554 --> 00:32:45,754 Speaker 1: winter or just tran seasonally, I'm a trench or a 766 00:32:45,794 --> 00:32:48,234 Speaker 1: bomber or just something that lives on the front at 767 00:32:48,234 --> 00:32:50,594 Speaker 1: the front door of the thing. But then I'm like, oh, 768 00:32:50,634 --> 00:32:52,274 Speaker 1: my keys, because I don't take my handbag just school 769 00:32:52,314 --> 00:32:53,474 Speaker 1: drop off all no, whatever. 770 00:32:53,674 --> 00:32:56,274 Speaker 2: That's such a good skill drop off, isn't it great? 771 00:32:56,314 --> 00:32:59,234 Speaker 1: And sometimes I literally wear my pajamas and just check 772 00:32:59,274 --> 00:33:02,434 Speaker 1: on my berks. So the brand has got fused ashore 773 00:33:02,474 --> 00:33:04,594 Speaker 1: and she's British. There you go, and it's called the 774 00:33:04,714 --> 00:33:06,594 Speaker 1: Art and Coat in Canvas. You're right. I think they 775 00:33:06,634 --> 00:33:07,634 Speaker 1: did a red recently. 776 00:33:07,714 --> 00:33:08,514 Speaker 2: Brand in a blank. 777 00:33:08,634 --> 00:33:11,394 Speaker 1: It's very expensive once you get it in aud so 778 00:33:11,474 --> 00:33:14,994 Speaker 1: it's four hundred and seventy nine dollars plus shipping. I 779 00:33:15,034 --> 00:33:17,714 Speaker 1: would not have paid that much. Could I find anything similar? 780 00:33:18,154 --> 00:33:20,274 Speaker 1: I have a Unigo one that I wanted it to 781 00:33:20,274 --> 00:33:21,714 Speaker 1: be this from a few years ago that I bought 782 00:33:21,754 --> 00:33:24,874 Speaker 1: in large but still not oversized enough, not enough pockets. 783 00:33:24,874 --> 00:33:27,314 Speaker 1: This pocket has zips because also you've got a child. 784 00:33:27,394 --> 00:33:30,954 Speaker 1: Sometimes they give you stick some box you are not 785 00:33:31,074 --> 00:33:34,154 Speaker 1: allowed to put them down. Yeah you know, so this 786 00:33:34,354 --> 00:33:36,954 Speaker 1: I can literally just obviously we're over active, were. 787 00:33:36,874 --> 00:33:39,754 Speaker 3: I feel like, because you're fair in back to your 788 00:33:39,834 --> 00:33:42,394 Speaker 3: everyday lefe, you're going to get so much wear from it. 789 00:33:42,474 --> 00:33:44,434 Speaker 1: All right, Well, then your bougie is a belt and 790 00:33:44,434 --> 00:33:47,554 Speaker 1: my budget is a belt, so convenient talk about belt. 791 00:33:47,634 --> 00:33:50,914 Speaker 2: So my belts. I love a belt. I'm petty. 792 00:33:51,394 --> 00:33:54,434 Speaker 3: I have to elong get my waist and my legs 793 00:33:54,994 --> 00:33:58,354 Speaker 3: and I need to make that our glass celhouette and 794 00:33:58,434 --> 00:34:01,754 Speaker 3: a bell is perfect for me. So I am vested 795 00:34:01,874 --> 00:34:05,354 Speaker 3: in that cat belt actually about two years ago. 796 00:34:06,034 --> 00:34:08,674 Speaker 1: Beautiful h a t e. 797 00:34:08,953 --> 00:34:12,194 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I love that. Yeah, so I invested in that. 798 00:34:12,354 --> 00:34:14,114 Speaker 3: It's a bit two years ago and I weird all 799 00:34:14,114 --> 00:34:15,993 Speaker 3: the tame. So it just shows you if there were 800 00:34:16,314 --> 00:34:18,034 Speaker 3: the cost perl ware, but it just shows you if 801 00:34:18,074 --> 00:34:23,034 Speaker 3: you organ spend anything quite bougie a moone, then you know, 802 00:34:23,754 --> 00:34:25,714 Speaker 3: but you love it and you're weird all the tame 803 00:34:25,754 --> 00:34:27,794 Speaker 3: and it's your personality every day line. 804 00:34:27,874 --> 00:34:29,554 Speaker 2: Yeah, belt does for me. 805 00:34:29,634 --> 00:34:33,394 Speaker 1: Yeah, it saw It's so true. I had some belts 806 00:34:33,394 --> 00:34:35,674 Speaker 1: that I was just like, oh, you're supposed to own belts, 807 00:34:35,674 --> 00:34:38,834 Speaker 1: and then I was telling you before I thrifted, which 808 00:34:38,954 --> 00:34:41,514 Speaker 1: was never happens. It was thrifting Christmas. I found a 809 00:34:41,554 --> 00:34:45,114 Speaker 1: Selene belt that was ridiculously cheap and for someone with 810 00:34:45,154 --> 00:34:47,194 Speaker 1: ADHD who goes to the bucking way too much, it's 811 00:34:47,234 --> 00:34:50,074 Speaker 1: just it slides in, it has a it has a 812 00:34:50,114 --> 00:34:51,794 Speaker 1: little hole, I guess but you don't have to do 813 00:34:51,834 --> 00:34:53,553 Speaker 1: the whole bucklet. It just kind of pops in. Oh wow, 814 00:34:54,074 --> 00:34:58,194 Speaker 1: great functional love. It has changed my entire wardrobe. Now 815 00:34:58,234 --> 00:34:59,873 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go out and buy the Selene one, although 816 00:34:59,914 --> 00:35:02,594 Speaker 1: however costperware. I you know, I could have justified that. 817 00:35:02,714 --> 00:35:04,674 Speaker 1: I feel somebody who rears belts all the tame correct 818 00:35:04,714 --> 00:35:06,834 Speaker 1: and now I had become that person and my outfits 819 00:35:06,874 --> 00:35:10,114 Speaker 1: look immediately more polished. But then I thought, well, I 820 00:35:10,154 --> 00:35:11,994 Speaker 1: need more belts, don't I. So I bought a couple 821 00:35:12,034 --> 00:35:14,954 Speaker 1: of more belts, not real leather. They it's just a 822 00:35:14,994 --> 00:35:17,354 Speaker 1: belt goes through too much for it to not be 823 00:35:17,434 --> 00:35:20,074 Speaker 1: good quality. So that's kind of plastic leather breaks and 824 00:35:20,154 --> 00:35:22,754 Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah it's terrible. So Suzanne have just 825 00:35:22,834 --> 00:35:25,674 Speaker 1: launched it to Suzanne Everyday Leather belt, real leather thirty 826 00:35:25,714 --> 00:35:29,874 Speaker 1: nine ninety five, amazing medium sort of with plain as buckle, 827 00:35:30,274 --> 00:35:32,794 Speaker 1: and it will last you forever because it's leather. And 828 00:35:32,834 --> 00:35:34,554 Speaker 1: so I think, if you know you don't want to splurge, 829 00:35:34,554 --> 00:35:36,594 Speaker 1: but you want something that's good quality, well. 830 00:35:36,434 --> 00:35:39,794 Speaker 3: I feel like if it's like a basic, yes, I know, 831 00:35:40,954 --> 00:35:42,594 Speaker 3: you're a classic. 832 00:35:42,354 --> 00:35:44,914 Speaker 1: Yes classic, it's yeah, it's not making a statement. However, 833 00:35:44,954 --> 00:35:47,033 Speaker 1: it does polishing outfit. 834 00:35:46,834 --> 00:35:49,634 Speaker 3: Shatly bar Like, what's the point of, you know, spending 835 00:35:49,674 --> 00:35:50,754 Speaker 3: three hundred dollars. 836 00:35:50,594 --> 00:35:52,194 Speaker 2: On something like a basic belt? 837 00:35:52,314 --> 00:35:55,314 Speaker 1: But Suzanne, yeah, forty dollars for a genuine leather belt, 838 00:35:55,394 --> 00:35:57,754 Speaker 1: and I just think sometimes, thank God, I just covered 839 00:35:57,754 --> 00:36:00,554 Speaker 1: that belt and it brought me back to the belt world. Sam, 840 00:36:00,594 --> 00:36:03,194 Speaker 1: you're amazing. You have inspired me. Stay tuned. Will I 841 00:36:03,234 --> 00:36:05,953 Speaker 1: do this so much? I think I will. That's all 842 00:36:05,994 --> 00:36:08,194 Speaker 1: we have time for today. I hope that was helpful, 843 00:36:08,194 --> 00:36:11,834 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try this for March. 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