1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:21,225 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on hi U bis Lee 4 00:00:21,345 --> 00:00:24,545 Speaker 2: here And in case you've missed it, I don't just 5 00:00:24,585 --> 00:00:27,865 Speaker 2: host you Beauty, I also host Nothing to Wear. It's 6 00:00:27,865 --> 00:00:30,745 Speaker 2: a fabulous fashion podcast, if I do say so myself, 7 00:00:30,785 --> 00:00:33,265 Speaker 2: and it's not about shopping. I'man Sure there's some shopping, 8 00:00:33,505 --> 00:00:36,105 Speaker 2: but it's more importantly how to get more out of 9 00:00:36,105 --> 00:00:38,425 Speaker 2: the stuff you already have and how to shop smarter. 10 00:00:38,705 --> 00:00:40,625 Speaker 2: So have a listen to this episode, and I hope 11 00:00:40,625 --> 00:00:41,225 Speaker 2: you enjoy it. 12 00:00:43,265 --> 00:00:46,545 Speaker 3: Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed. 13 00:00:46,225 --> 00:00:48,625 Speaker 2: Laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 14 00:00:48,865 --> 00:00:50,665 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do it. 15 00:00:50,745 --> 00:00:51,945 Speaker 3: You live for fashion. 16 00:00:53,865 --> 00:00:56,585 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 17 00:00:56,625 --> 00:01:00,585 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee Campbell, 18 00:01:00,665 --> 00:01:03,265 Speaker 2: and every week I talk to an expert who helps 19 00:01:03,345 --> 00:01:05,105 Speaker 2: us work out how to get more out of the 20 00:01:05,145 --> 00:01:08,425 Speaker 2: clothes we already have and tells us exactly what is 21 00:01:08,545 --> 00:01:11,545 Speaker 2: and isn't worth adding to our wardrobes. So today on 22 00:01:11,585 --> 00:01:14,505 Speaker 2: the podcast, we're lucky enough to have the fabulous Tamara 23 00:01:14,585 --> 00:01:18,145 Speaker 2: Holland back again. As promised, Tam will be joining me 24 00:01:18,345 --> 00:01:22,865 Speaker 2: pretty regularly to chat trends, ideas and inspo. It's basically 25 00:01:22,945 --> 00:01:26,105 Speaker 2: an insight into our WhatsApp fashion chat. And if you 26 00:01:26,145 --> 00:01:28,185 Speaker 2: missed the last episode with Tam, I'm going to pop 27 00:01:28,225 --> 00:01:30,105 Speaker 2: a link in the show notes because on that show 28 00:01:30,145 --> 00:01:34,025 Speaker 2: we discussed the massive amount of sheer clothing everywhere right 29 00:01:34,065 --> 00:01:36,705 Speaker 2: now and how to wear it without feeling exposed. 30 00:01:37,025 --> 00:01:38,225 Speaker 1: Plus we both weighed in on. 31 00:01:38,265 --> 00:01:41,105 Speaker 2: Jawts or bermuda shorts or we could just call them 32 00:01:41,185 --> 00:01:43,545 Speaker 2: long shorts, which is what they are. But this time 33 00:01:43,545 --> 00:01:46,025 Speaker 2: we have a whole new batch of trends and observations 34 00:01:46,105 --> 00:01:48,025 Speaker 2: to discuss, so let's jump straight into it. 35 00:01:48,665 --> 00:01:49,825 Speaker 1: Tam my fashion friend. 36 00:01:49,865 --> 00:01:52,745 Speaker 2: Firstly, welcome back, and secondly, I could not be more 37 00:01:52,825 --> 00:01:55,385 Speaker 2: excited to talk about these trends with you. You've brought 38 00:01:55,385 --> 00:01:58,465 Speaker 2: two excellent trends to the table. Let's kick off with 39 00:01:58,505 --> 00:02:00,025 Speaker 2: one of yours. What are you going to start with? 40 00:02:00,265 --> 00:02:00,585 Speaker 1: Lee? 41 00:02:00,745 --> 00:02:04,625 Speaker 4: Fashion is going absolutely mad, going bananas if you will, 42 00:02:04,665 --> 00:02:07,385 Speaker 4: for novelty bags and shoes. I feel like ever since 43 00:02:07,425 --> 00:02:10,865 Speaker 4: that jw Anderson pigeon bag bag shaped like a pigeon 44 00:02:10,945 --> 00:02:15,185 Speaker 4: from and just like that, things have really spiraled. So 45 00:02:15,345 --> 00:02:18,625 Speaker 4: At the Jacquesmieu Paris show a few weeks ago, the 46 00:02:18,705 --> 00:02:22,785 Speaker 4: bags were these slouchy leather clutches that looked like lemons, 47 00:02:22,825 --> 00:02:26,425 Speaker 4: and then the shoes look like chic little bananas shoes. 48 00:02:26,745 --> 00:02:30,345 Speaker 4: At the Louis Vuitton men'swear show, there were lobster clutches 49 00:02:30,385 --> 00:02:33,945 Speaker 4: with the LV monogram on them. Mosquito had a celery 50 00:02:34,025 --> 00:02:35,785 Speaker 4: bag that actually went to retail. 51 00:02:35,905 --> 00:02:36,465 Speaker 3: Recently. 52 00:02:36,745 --> 00:02:40,065 Speaker 4: It's this real surrealism moment in accessories, and I think 53 00:02:40,105 --> 00:02:42,545 Speaker 4: we're going to see this infiltrate the high street in 54 00:02:42,625 --> 00:02:45,865 Speaker 4: really interesting ways. I think we'll start to see brands 55 00:02:45,905 --> 00:02:49,345 Speaker 4: like Oraiton perhaps or your mimcos start to have more 56 00:02:49,425 --> 00:02:53,625 Speaker 4: humor and whimsy incorporated into their designs. I suppose the 57 00:02:53,665 --> 00:02:57,105 Speaker 4: actionable headline for me here is to have more fun 58 00:02:57,185 --> 00:03:00,545 Speaker 4: with your accessories this year, rather than thinking, well, I'm 59 00:03:00,545 --> 00:03:02,745 Speaker 4: going to invest in. It has to be timeless, it 60 00:03:02,785 --> 00:03:04,705 Speaker 4: has to be classic, can go with everything and part 61 00:03:04,705 --> 00:03:07,625 Speaker 4: of my capsule wardrobe. You buy it because it doesn't. 62 00:03:07,905 --> 00:03:11,345 Speaker 4: Does that make sense where it became Yeah, Itty makes 63 00:03:11,385 --> 00:03:15,345 Speaker 4: the outfit exactly and in this case it really offsets 64 00:03:15,825 --> 00:03:17,705 Speaker 4: the look. And I think we've seen this for a 65 00:03:17,745 --> 00:03:21,905 Speaker 4: few seasons now with this trend for fancy flat shoes 66 00:03:22,025 --> 00:03:24,705 Speaker 4: or flat shoes that have like an added interest to them, 67 00:03:24,945 --> 00:03:27,625 Speaker 4: whether they have you know, a really cool edgy metallic 68 00:03:27,825 --> 00:03:30,625 Speaker 4: or they've got some sort of interesting design feature to them, 69 00:03:30,745 --> 00:03:32,785 Speaker 4: and the shoe is really making the outfit. Now it's 70 00:03:32,825 --> 00:03:35,185 Speaker 4: coming through in bags and other accessories as well. 71 00:03:35,425 --> 00:03:39,065 Speaker 2: The examples you gave they were all food and fruit vegetables. 72 00:03:39,105 --> 00:03:42,105 Speaker 2: So I don't think the average person's going to drop 73 00:03:42,105 --> 00:03:43,985 Speaker 2: four K on a bag that looks like an oyster 74 00:03:44,145 --> 00:03:44,745 Speaker 2: or a banana. 75 00:03:44,785 --> 00:03:47,025 Speaker 1: But do you think it'll just be more fun in general? 76 00:03:47,025 --> 00:03:49,185 Speaker 2: I've been calling it bells and whistles because I feel 77 00:03:49,225 --> 00:03:52,985 Speaker 2: like it's just like the little joy that we add 78 00:03:53,025 --> 00:03:56,145 Speaker 2: the icing on the outfit. Do you think that more 79 00:03:56,185 --> 00:03:59,985 Speaker 2: wearable for people will be bright colors, weird shapes, or 80 00:04:00,025 --> 00:04:02,065 Speaker 2: you know, earrings or bag charms. I mean, I can 81 00:04:02,105 --> 00:04:03,665 Speaker 2: do a bag charm that's a banana, but I'm not 82 00:04:03,705 --> 00:04:05,185 Speaker 2: going to get a whole banana bag. 83 00:04:05,345 --> 00:04:07,585 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good question. I actually think some 84 00:04:07,665 --> 00:04:11,065 Speaker 4: people will do the whole nana bag. I think that 85 00:04:11,105 --> 00:04:13,025 Speaker 4: Loui Vuitton lobster bag is going to be like one 86 00:04:13,065 --> 00:04:16,225 Speaker 4: of the it bags for this year. I reckon watch 87 00:04:16,265 --> 00:04:19,785 Speaker 4: as anything for real touches turns to gold, turns to sold. 88 00:04:20,025 --> 00:04:22,225 Speaker 4: He's a real thought leader in the fashion space running 89 00:04:22,265 --> 00:04:24,465 Speaker 4: Louis Vuitton men's wear, so I think if he and 90 00:04:24,505 --> 00:04:27,185 Speaker 4: all the other designers are doing it, Scaparelli is one 91 00:04:27,225 --> 00:04:29,705 Speaker 4: of the fashion brands that's really been responsible for what 92 00:04:29,785 --> 00:04:32,825 Speaker 4: I said was this surrealism moment with accessories. It was 93 00:04:32,905 --> 00:04:36,345 Speaker 4: those bags that look like faces, that had the little funny, 94 00:04:36,385 --> 00:04:38,945 Speaker 4: quirky faces on them, and also those shoes that looked 95 00:04:38,985 --> 00:04:42,825 Speaker 4: like golden feet. And to your point, that hasn't really 96 00:04:42,865 --> 00:04:45,225 Speaker 4: come through in a major way in terms of us 97 00:04:45,265 --> 00:04:48,505 Speaker 4: wearing shoes that look like feet, but it has created 98 00:04:48,505 --> 00:04:53,305 Speaker 4: this whole appetite for quirky accessories at large, and perhaps 99 00:04:53,385 --> 00:04:55,465 Speaker 4: it is a way of channeling that in a more 100 00:04:55,505 --> 00:04:56,345 Speaker 4: accessible way. 101 00:04:56,865 --> 00:05:00,025 Speaker 2: Agreed I recently because I loved this idea of sort 102 00:05:00,065 --> 00:05:03,585 Speaker 2: of novelty or just kind of adding a bit of quirk. 103 00:05:03,625 --> 00:05:06,665 Speaker 2: But I'm quite classic's not the right way. But I 104 00:05:06,665 --> 00:05:08,345 Speaker 2: don't take a huge amount of risks in terms of 105 00:05:08,345 --> 00:05:10,865 Speaker 2: colors or even shapes. But what I did I saw 106 00:05:10,865 --> 00:05:12,745 Speaker 2: this amazing trench. It was just on Asos and I 107 00:05:12,785 --> 00:05:14,745 Speaker 2: had some sort of contrast thing happening, and I was like, well, 108 00:05:14,785 --> 00:05:17,265 Speaker 2: lookly you don't need another trench and will you wear 109 00:05:17,305 --> 00:05:19,705 Speaker 2: it that much? But I jumped on Amazon and you 110 00:05:19,705 --> 00:05:21,825 Speaker 2: can buy kits or you know, just a set of 111 00:05:21,865 --> 00:05:24,665 Speaker 2: a trench belt and cuffs, and so I've bought like 112 00:05:24,705 --> 00:05:26,945 Speaker 2: a car Key set so i can switch out the cuffs. 113 00:05:26,945 --> 00:05:28,865 Speaker 2: You know how you kind of get that fabric belt 114 00:05:28,905 --> 00:05:31,345 Speaker 2: type vibe on that. Yeah, and so I'm going to 115 00:05:31,425 --> 00:05:33,465 Speaker 2: use that on my existing trenches, thinking I'm adding a 116 00:05:33,505 --> 00:05:35,425 Speaker 2: cool contrast, but I don't have to buy a whole 117 00:05:35,465 --> 00:05:35,985 Speaker 2: new jacket. 118 00:05:36,065 --> 00:05:39,025 Speaker 1: So am I as simple as that? Or you might 119 00:05:39,105 --> 00:05:40,985 Speaker 1: go a banana, Yeah, you. 120 00:05:40,985 --> 00:05:42,545 Speaker 3: Might go banana poppy. Listen. 121 00:05:42,625 --> 00:05:46,705 Speaker 4: And the Australian Accessories brand she came out with a 122 00:05:46,785 --> 00:05:49,825 Speaker 4: line of bag charms that are fruit. They're bananas. I 123 00:05:49,865 --> 00:05:52,905 Speaker 4: think there's also broccoli. Maybe there's a prawn. These are 124 00:05:52,905 --> 00:05:54,905 Speaker 4: like thirty dollars bag charms that you can add to 125 00:05:54,945 --> 00:05:58,185 Speaker 4: your bag. And we've already seen that accessorizing trend, that 126 00:05:58,305 --> 00:06:02,345 Speaker 4: personalization or customization trend be huge, so perhaps it's just 127 00:06:02,385 --> 00:06:04,705 Speaker 4: going more down that road and adding a fun touch 128 00:06:04,745 --> 00:06:06,185 Speaker 4: to your already established pieces. 129 00:06:06,265 --> 00:06:09,145 Speaker 2: I think that's more realistic for the everyday person. But hey, 130 00:06:09,225 --> 00:06:10,505 Speaker 2: if you want to, we've out a love style. 131 00:06:10,545 --> 00:06:13,705 Speaker 1: I like it. My first trend to eat going full lost. 132 00:06:14,465 --> 00:06:16,305 Speaker 1: Hope you do. I want to borrow it. 133 00:06:16,945 --> 00:06:19,905 Speaker 2: My first trend is the return of plaid. So you know, 134 00:06:19,945 --> 00:06:23,825 Speaker 2: the US really call it plaid, it's checks or it's tartan. 135 00:06:24,545 --> 00:06:27,145 Speaker 2: And this has been observed in the spring summer trends 136 00:06:27,145 --> 00:06:29,585 Speaker 2: that are launching right now in the Northern Hemisphere. So 137 00:06:29,625 --> 00:06:32,105 Speaker 2: the joy of being down here in Australia is those 138 00:06:32,105 --> 00:06:34,265 Speaker 2: guys up there kind of tested out. So going into 139 00:06:34,305 --> 00:06:37,145 Speaker 2: spring summer, we're seeing plaid everywhere and we're about to 140 00:06:37,185 --> 00:06:38,985 Speaker 2: go into autumn winter. So not to say it won't 141 00:06:39,025 --> 00:06:41,545 Speaker 2: be adopted by retailers in a more wintry way here, 142 00:06:41,825 --> 00:06:45,105 Speaker 2: but it's kind of with a nostalgic twist. So for me, 143 00:06:45,865 --> 00:06:48,985 Speaker 2: I think of tartan or plaid very much with the 144 00:06:48,985 --> 00:06:52,785 Speaker 2: Scottish origin. So my surname is Campbell, my mother's surname 145 00:06:52,825 --> 00:06:55,665 Speaker 2: is Bruce, so there were two very big Scottish clans 146 00:06:55,705 --> 00:06:58,625 Speaker 2: back in the day, and so I immediately think the men 147 00:06:58,665 --> 00:07:00,145 Speaker 2: in their kilts, but also women. 148 00:07:00,185 --> 00:07:01,185 Speaker 1: I don't know why I update it. 149 00:07:01,225 --> 00:07:04,145 Speaker 2: I just think sort of a flowy tartan skirt or 150 00:07:04,185 --> 00:07:07,185 Speaker 2: something a bit sort of country about it. But the 151 00:07:07,225 --> 00:07:10,865 Speaker 2: twists that we're seeing this sea and coming in, of course, 152 00:07:10,985 --> 00:07:13,705 Speaker 2: is still a flashback to the grunge caurtan. 153 00:07:13,865 --> 00:07:15,265 Speaker 1: So think your flatter. 154 00:07:15,105 --> 00:07:17,665 Speaker 4: Shirt, Vivian West to it all over, isn't it? 155 00:07:17,705 --> 00:07:18,025 Speaker 1: Isn't it? 156 00:07:18,065 --> 00:07:19,905 Speaker 2: And it was brought back kind of in the sixties. 157 00:07:20,105 --> 00:07:21,945 Speaker 2: It was kind of a surf rock vibe. And then 158 00:07:21,985 --> 00:07:23,905 Speaker 2: of course you've got your Nirvana in your silver chair, 159 00:07:23,945 --> 00:07:26,545 Speaker 2: so think your nineties if you can remember back that far. 160 00:07:26,585 --> 00:07:28,505 Speaker 2: And yes, I were it the first time, so we're 161 00:07:28,505 --> 00:07:31,305 Speaker 2: going to see it coming back in lots of different ways. 162 00:07:31,505 --> 00:07:34,905 Speaker 2: And I find checks. I mean, I guess we should 163 00:07:34,905 --> 00:07:36,985 Speaker 2: call it plaid because checks could be quite you know, 164 00:07:37,025 --> 00:07:38,905 Speaker 2: a hound's tooth or anything. So let's call it plaid 165 00:07:38,985 --> 00:07:42,465 Speaker 2: or tartan. It can be quite tricky to wear. I 166 00:07:42,505 --> 00:07:46,225 Speaker 2: actually prefer it full winter. Also, if he implies heaviness, 167 00:07:46,465 --> 00:07:49,705 Speaker 2: it does because we associate it with things like blankets. 168 00:07:50,185 --> 00:07:51,825 Speaker 2: You don't go light whimsical. 169 00:07:51,985 --> 00:07:53,865 Speaker 1: No, However, I've seen it in bikinis. 170 00:07:53,985 --> 00:07:57,785 Speaker 2: That brand r VCA does a plaid bikini, so it's 171 00:07:57,825 --> 00:08:00,745 Speaker 2: definitely around, But for me, I think this winter we'll 172 00:08:00,785 --> 00:08:03,265 Speaker 2: see it filter through in our kind of colder weather, 173 00:08:03,465 --> 00:08:07,505 Speaker 2: in that sort of more nostalgic nineties grunge flannel, and 174 00:08:07,545 --> 00:08:11,065 Speaker 2: so I think that can be quite cool tucked into 175 00:08:11,265 --> 00:08:13,305 Speaker 2: a wide leg pant or even with one of those 176 00:08:13,345 --> 00:08:16,665 Speaker 2: beautiful Maxi dresses and skirts that we're seeing. But I'm 177 00:08:16,705 --> 00:08:18,785 Speaker 2: probably going to do in accessories I think, which I'll 178 00:08:18,825 --> 00:08:22,145 Speaker 2: talk a bit more about later. But yeah, checks and 179 00:08:22,265 --> 00:08:25,585 Speaker 2: plaid and all of that history is back with some 180 00:08:25,665 --> 00:08:26,705 Speaker 2: rock and roll throon in there. 181 00:08:26,825 --> 00:08:29,225 Speaker 4: You know, you're so right. I've been seeing this coming 182 00:08:29,265 --> 00:08:32,905 Speaker 4: through in the street style I've been observing, particularly from 183 00:08:33,425 --> 00:08:35,305 Speaker 4: Copenhagen fashion Week. 184 00:08:35,825 --> 00:08:37,025 Speaker 3: I saw this woman wearing. 185 00:08:36,785 --> 00:08:40,985 Speaker 4: A fabulous check overcoat and it was in like a 186 00:08:41,105 --> 00:08:44,105 Speaker 4: dark tartan and I was like, gosh, that feels so 187 00:08:44,265 --> 00:08:47,305 Speaker 4: fresh again. But it wasn't that punky Vivian Westwood. It 188 00:08:47,345 --> 00:08:50,785 Speaker 4: was like a really clean, polish trench, a sick one, 189 00:08:50,905 --> 00:08:52,665 Speaker 4: and it made me just go, you know what, if 190 00:08:52,665 --> 00:08:56,545 Speaker 4: I'm going to do a print in winter that feels correct, it. 191 00:08:56,465 --> 00:08:58,505 Speaker 2: Does, doesn't it because it feels fresh but also so 192 00:08:58,585 --> 00:09:00,305 Speaker 2: traditional that you won't want to get rid of it 193 00:09:00,345 --> 00:09:03,505 Speaker 2: next season. And if you're into thrifting, which I really am, 194 00:09:04,025 --> 00:09:07,505 Speaker 2: it's great to get Tartan and lad when you go 195 00:09:07,545 --> 00:09:09,185 Speaker 2: thrifting because you can go into the men's section and 196 00:09:09,225 --> 00:09:11,785 Speaker 2: look at their shirts and then you can customize them. 197 00:09:11,865 --> 00:09:13,745 Speaker 2: Or you might find a lot of jackets that well, 198 00:09:13,785 --> 00:09:15,825 Speaker 2: I guess a few seasons ago, quite uncol but now 199 00:09:15,865 --> 00:09:17,145 Speaker 2: they're cool again. 200 00:09:17,025 --> 00:09:19,985 Speaker 4: Like an oversized blazer in a check a man's where blazer, 201 00:09:20,105 --> 00:09:21,585 Speaker 4: so cool back with a blue jeen. 202 00:09:31,185 --> 00:09:32,305 Speaker 1: What else have you got for me? 203 00:09:32,545 --> 00:09:34,785 Speaker 3: I'm initiating a segment what to wear next? 204 00:09:35,025 --> 00:09:35,145 Speaker 1: Oh? 205 00:09:35,225 --> 00:09:35,825 Speaker 3: I love that. 206 00:09:36,065 --> 00:09:37,585 Speaker 1: Well, that's what trends are right. 207 00:09:37,625 --> 00:09:40,865 Speaker 4: Exactly what to wear next? For we're coming into autumn. 208 00:09:41,025 --> 00:09:43,985 Speaker 4: It's really close. Actually, we've just got a few weeks 209 00:09:44,065 --> 00:09:47,625 Speaker 4: left of summer. I was doing my research for this podcast, 210 00:09:47,665 --> 00:09:50,625 Speaker 4: as I like to do, and I saw that mew 211 00:09:50,705 --> 00:09:54,665 Speaker 4: Mew is Fashion's hottest brand once again, according to the 212 00:09:54,705 --> 00:09:57,985 Speaker 4: List Index. It's a report that comes out every quarter 213 00:09:58,305 --> 00:10:02,225 Speaker 4: and it reports on the most influential hot brands, high 214 00:10:02,345 --> 00:10:04,665 Speaker 4: end brands as well as some more mid tier brands 215 00:10:04,705 --> 00:10:05,305 Speaker 4: that can come. 216 00:10:05,185 --> 00:10:06,305 Speaker 3: Through into this register. 217 00:10:06,425 --> 00:10:10,185 Speaker 4: So mewmu has been responsible for a massive brown Swede 218 00:10:10,265 --> 00:10:14,225 Speaker 4: revival on the runways. The list Index also interestingly reported 219 00:10:14,265 --> 00:10:17,625 Speaker 4: that ugg as in ug Boots has made its entry 220 00:10:17,745 --> 00:10:21,145 Speaker 4: into this hot list, so they're part of this trend too. 221 00:10:21,505 --> 00:10:25,585 Speaker 4: And just before we recordedly, I saw two celebrity outfits 222 00:10:25,665 --> 00:10:29,825 Speaker 4: really recently that support my theory. So Kendall Jenner wore 223 00:10:29,905 --> 00:10:33,385 Speaker 4: a brown leather blazer and carried a matching brown swede 224 00:10:33,465 --> 00:10:37,465 Speaker 4: ermez bag and Hailey Bieber, her fashion twin, wore a 225 00:10:37,505 --> 00:10:41,465 Speaker 4: brown swede Bomber. This year's swede is definitely one of 226 00:10:41,505 --> 00:10:45,345 Speaker 4: the key textures in fashion, especially in brown. We're going 227 00:10:45,385 --> 00:10:47,265 Speaker 4: to see it everywhere. I'm going so far as to 228 00:10:47,265 --> 00:10:49,865 Speaker 4: call it the new leather. So how this is coming 229 00:10:49,905 --> 00:10:53,105 Speaker 4: through is in footwear, particularly with moccasins and loafers. They're 230 00:10:53,105 --> 00:10:55,825 Speaker 4: starting to come back in. I've been looking for a 231 00:10:55,865 --> 00:10:57,905 Speaker 4: pair now just to invest a head of winter. I 232 00:10:57,945 --> 00:11:00,625 Speaker 4: can't find any that aren't new mew in two thousand dollars, 233 00:11:00,665 --> 00:11:02,305 Speaker 4: so you know, let me know if you find some. 234 00:11:02,785 --> 00:11:05,225 Speaker 2: It's also again I don't work for Amazon, but I've 235 00:11:05,225 --> 00:11:06,225 Speaker 2: got a great pair on Amazon. 236 00:11:06,345 --> 00:11:09,225 Speaker 4: Oh hot tip. It's also coming through in sneakers. I 237 00:11:09,225 --> 00:11:12,585 Speaker 4: reade a t piece for Mamma mea about brown swed sneakers, 238 00:11:12,865 --> 00:11:16,105 Speaker 4: so added Oss, New Balanced, Nike, They've all got their versions, 239 00:11:16,385 --> 00:11:19,385 Speaker 4: and then of course brown ug boots for winter. Then 240 00:11:19,465 --> 00:11:21,905 Speaker 4: it's also happening in outerwear. So like I said, we've 241 00:11:21,945 --> 00:11:25,585 Speaker 4: seen Haley wear a brown Swayede jacket. It looked vintage. 242 00:11:25,625 --> 00:11:29,585 Speaker 4: It was probably Thetayga Venetta, but who knows. It's definitely 243 00:11:29,585 --> 00:11:33,105 Speaker 4: a throw to that retro vintage silhouette of the men's 244 00:11:33,105 --> 00:11:37,385 Speaker 4: wear inspired swede jacket. Will also see overcoats, they look 245 00:11:37,425 --> 00:11:40,345 Speaker 4: amazing back with denim, I think, and then again thanks 246 00:11:40,345 --> 00:11:45,505 Speaker 4: to MIWMU, we'll see slouchy brown swede bags, hobo bags, 247 00:11:45,665 --> 00:11:49,305 Speaker 4: bowling bags coming through everywhere. I think this trend is 248 00:11:49,345 --> 00:11:53,945 Speaker 4: a really interesting evolution of that quiet luxury moment that 249 00:11:54,105 --> 00:11:58,585 Speaker 4: was everywhere, but it's channeling more of that heritage, old 250 00:11:58,745 --> 00:12:02,025 Speaker 4: money look and maybe this is why checks are happening 251 00:12:02,345 --> 00:12:05,585 Speaker 4: as well. To your point, so the brands that I'm 252 00:12:05,665 --> 00:12:08,585 Speaker 4: seeing on the trend reports that we're going to aspire 253 00:12:08,665 --> 00:12:13,385 Speaker 4: to this year, brands like Ralph Lauren, Max Maha, Hermez 254 00:12:13,625 --> 00:12:17,225 Speaker 4: and the Row, brands that really have sort of affiliation 255 00:12:17,425 --> 00:12:21,065 Speaker 4: with heritage and class, and that's why we're getting things 256 00:12:21,105 --> 00:12:23,905 Speaker 4: like loafers as well coming through. I'm seeing a few 257 00:12:23,945 --> 00:12:26,825 Speaker 4: brands on the high street coming out with those thick 258 00:12:27,065 --> 00:12:30,865 Speaker 4: cotton Oxford shirts, you know with the logos on the pocket. 259 00:12:31,265 --> 00:12:35,665 Speaker 4: We'll also reportedly see Hunter Wellington boots come through for 260 00:12:35,745 --> 00:12:38,785 Speaker 4: winter and having their revival. I feel like the inspo 261 00:12:38,985 --> 00:12:40,905 Speaker 4: is like Royals on their holidays. 262 00:12:41,225 --> 00:12:42,585 Speaker 3: That's the look. Yeah. 263 00:12:42,825 --> 00:12:43,385 Speaker 1: I feel that. 264 00:12:43,745 --> 00:12:45,745 Speaker 2: We had the Cola Dolph from The Iconic on the 265 00:12:45,745 --> 00:12:48,505 Speaker 2: show late twenty twenty four and she talked about the 266 00:12:48,545 --> 00:12:51,785 Speaker 2: trends she predicted in terms of buying for the Iconic 267 00:12:51,865 --> 00:12:54,745 Speaker 2: and a brown swayed was one of her top one. 268 00:12:54,785 --> 00:12:57,345 Speaker 2: So that's already filtering through into the Iconic and you're 269 00:12:57,385 --> 00:13:00,625 Speaker 2: probably thinking, wow, it's too hot, obviously depending where you 270 00:13:00,905 --> 00:13:01,505 Speaker 2: are based. 271 00:13:01,665 --> 00:13:04,065 Speaker 1: But it's swayed or swayed look. 272 00:13:04,145 --> 00:13:06,025 Speaker 2: I think, you know, again, a lot of people can't 273 00:13:06,025 --> 00:13:08,025 Speaker 2: afford or might have different ethics and not want to 274 00:13:08,025 --> 00:13:10,345 Speaker 2: wear swayed. But it's even just that finish, that's that 275 00:13:10,465 --> 00:13:13,665 Speaker 2: kind of brushed leather, but it might not be real leather. 276 00:13:14,265 --> 00:13:18,305 Speaker 2: And I find swayed hard to wear in that you 277 00:13:18,385 --> 00:13:20,225 Speaker 2: wear it in the cooler months, but it might be 278 00:13:20,345 --> 00:13:23,065 Speaker 2: raining and it's sways so true. Yeah, I bought a 279 00:13:23,065 --> 00:13:26,745 Speaker 2: beautiful vintage Swede. It's kind of like a shack at overseas, 280 00:13:26,825 --> 00:13:30,025 Speaker 2: and I haven't worn it yet because every time it's 281 00:13:30,305 --> 00:13:32,225 Speaker 2: cold enough to wear it, it's rainy or the risk 282 00:13:32,265 --> 00:13:33,665 Speaker 2: of rain, and I don't want to get it wet 283 00:13:33,665 --> 00:13:36,425 Speaker 2: because swayed weirdly, which comes from cows. But you know, 284 00:13:36,425 --> 00:13:38,185 Speaker 2: the way it's finished is you don't really want to 285 00:13:38,185 --> 00:13:40,425 Speaker 2: get it wet. So I'm probably more into the more 286 00:13:40,465 --> 00:13:43,465 Speaker 2: affordable Swede look that is. I think they call it 287 00:13:43,665 --> 00:13:46,425 Speaker 2: swede it, yes, swayede it. I know we've got so 288 00:13:46,465 --> 00:13:48,985 Speaker 2: many names that it's probably vegan swede, but I really 289 00:13:49,025 --> 00:13:51,905 Speaker 2: like that. I think textures for me are my way 290 00:13:51,945 --> 00:13:55,585 Speaker 2: to get adventurous and experimental in fashion because I'm not 291 00:13:55,705 --> 00:13:58,545 Speaker 2: really a huge pattern person. I don't do a lot 292 00:13:58,545 --> 00:14:01,145 Speaker 2: of like digital prints or anything really loud, but I 293 00:14:01,185 --> 00:14:03,345 Speaker 2: do love a kind of luxurious texture. 294 00:14:03,385 --> 00:14:04,505 Speaker 1: So I'm excited for that. 295 00:14:04,505 --> 00:14:07,345 Speaker 4: That word you just used, luxurious, that's what it is. 296 00:14:07,705 --> 00:14:07,865 Speaker 2: You know. 297 00:14:07,905 --> 00:14:09,985 Speaker 4: There's a lot of talk right now and again. I 298 00:14:09,985 --> 00:14:14,665 Speaker 4: actually wrote a piece about this recently about what signifies 299 00:14:14,745 --> 00:14:18,905 Speaker 4: luxury now this year and what signifies richness quote unquote 300 00:14:19,145 --> 00:14:22,945 Speaker 4: and the color was brown. Yeah, texture and that esthetic 301 00:14:23,105 --> 00:14:25,985 Speaker 4: of everything being brown and rich and deep, and with 302 00:14:26,065 --> 00:14:28,985 Speaker 4: the Pantone color of the year being that, what wasn't 303 00:14:29,025 --> 00:14:30,505 Speaker 4: mocka moose rich? 304 00:14:30,745 --> 00:14:31,105 Speaker 3: It's that. 305 00:14:31,345 --> 00:14:33,585 Speaker 4: So it speaks to luxury for sure. So whether it's 306 00:14:33,625 --> 00:14:37,265 Speaker 4: swayed e swayed textured leather, whatever you go for. That's 307 00:14:37,465 --> 00:14:41,305 Speaker 4: why brands like Botaga Vanetta that are so known for 308 00:14:41,385 --> 00:14:44,385 Speaker 4: having that artisanal, hand made quality to their leather pieces 309 00:14:44,465 --> 00:14:48,465 Speaker 4: and that hand made, touchable feel. That's what we're associating 310 00:14:48,505 --> 00:14:49,665 Speaker 4: with quality and luxury. 311 00:14:50,305 --> 00:14:52,825 Speaker 2: Agree, And when we say rich, it doesn't have to 312 00:14:52,865 --> 00:14:53,545 Speaker 2: be the price tag. 313 00:14:53,585 --> 00:14:56,985 Speaker 1: It's just the vibe. It's the vibe. It's the vibes, babe. 314 00:14:57,025 --> 00:14:59,825 Speaker 4: And I've got some more accessible entry points to this 315 00:14:59,905 --> 00:15:02,225 Speaker 4: trend come in in our boogie and budget later on. 316 00:15:02,265 --> 00:15:03,265 Speaker 1: Oh I'm excited for that. 317 00:15:03,665 --> 00:15:05,425 Speaker 2: Now. I just feel like having a chocolate moose. Like 318 00:15:05,425 --> 00:15:06,865 Speaker 2: when you say rich and chocolate, I'm just. 319 00:15:06,865 --> 00:15:09,985 Speaker 4: Thinking of my delicious. Can someone get me a Caba 320 00:15:10,025 --> 00:15:10,625 Speaker 4: gino please? 321 00:15:10,865 --> 00:15:11,145 Speaker 1: Right? 322 00:15:11,665 --> 00:15:14,145 Speaker 2: Okay, my second one is not going to be a 323 00:15:14,185 --> 00:15:16,425 Speaker 2: huge surprise to Australians, but we've got to think globally 324 00:15:16,505 --> 00:15:20,065 Speaker 2: so elevated sportswear, which Australians do very well, and the 325 00:15:20,105 --> 00:15:23,705 Speaker 2: prolification of waterproofs, which I'll get into. But keep in 326 00:15:23,705 --> 00:15:25,665 Speaker 2: mind that these trends, again are coming from the Northern 327 00:15:25,665 --> 00:15:29,745 Speaker 2: Hemisphere and Australian culture is very active. We do wear 328 00:15:29,865 --> 00:15:32,865 Speaker 2: athleisure where or our sports where our active wear, to 329 00:15:32,985 --> 00:15:36,505 Speaker 2: run errands to casual events. We really do live in 330 00:15:37,265 --> 00:15:40,305 Speaker 2: a lot of our active wear. But other places aren't 331 00:15:40,345 --> 00:15:42,945 Speaker 2: like that. You go to Hong Kong, you go to Paris. 332 00:15:42,985 --> 00:15:45,505 Speaker 2: I was in Paris last year and my husband first 333 00:15:45,505 --> 00:15:47,345 Speaker 2: time there. I mean, he looked great, but he was 334 00:15:47,345 --> 00:15:50,065 Speaker 2: in sort of little There were black subie could be bored, 335 00:15:50,065 --> 00:15:51,465 Speaker 2: shorts could but they look like he was going to 336 00:15:51,505 --> 00:15:53,265 Speaker 2: the gym. But then with a jumper and a sneaker 337 00:15:53,265 --> 00:15:55,465 Speaker 2: and he looked really cool. But we met up with 338 00:15:55,505 --> 00:15:58,225 Speaker 2: a friend who is French born and he said, are 339 00:15:58,225 --> 00:15:59,985 Speaker 2: you going to the gym? And Rich said no, And 340 00:15:59,985 --> 00:16:03,145 Speaker 2: he said, oh, we don't wear activewear unless we're going 341 00:16:03,145 --> 00:16:03,705 Speaker 2: to the gym. 342 00:16:03,785 --> 00:16:04,785 Speaker 3: Oh no, we don't do that. 343 00:16:05,025 --> 00:16:05,265 Speaker 2: No. 344 00:16:05,425 --> 00:16:06,985 Speaker 3: I'm interesting, isn't it. 345 00:16:07,105 --> 00:16:09,465 Speaker 2: I listened to Amelia Lesta recently I'm Amamir out loud 346 00:16:09,465 --> 00:16:11,385 Speaker 2: and was talking about when she lived in Hong Kong 347 00:16:11,545 --> 00:16:13,345 Speaker 2: and it was just not a not a done thing 348 00:16:13,345 --> 00:16:16,065 Speaker 2: that you wore sort of at leisure or athletic wear 349 00:16:16,545 --> 00:16:19,945 Speaker 2: unless you were working out. But the runways overseas and 350 00:16:20,025 --> 00:16:22,105 Speaker 2: spring some of that the Northern Hemisphere is going into 351 00:16:22,465 --> 00:16:25,465 Speaker 2: is showing that it's coming through in bits and pieces 352 00:16:25,865 --> 00:16:28,545 Speaker 2: in everyday close So I think Australians might adopt that 353 00:16:28,625 --> 00:16:31,185 Speaker 2: in that they will choose pieces that are truly active 354 00:16:31,185 --> 00:16:33,705 Speaker 2: with that look good enough to wear wherever. But people 355 00:16:33,745 --> 00:16:36,025 Speaker 2: that might not be that active will be seeing hints 356 00:16:36,145 --> 00:16:40,025 Speaker 2: of it within their regular wardrobe or within their regular 357 00:16:40,025 --> 00:16:42,305 Speaker 2: Retailers that don't sell active wear think. 358 00:16:42,105 --> 00:16:43,345 Speaker 1: Also a bit softer. 359 00:16:43,585 --> 00:16:46,105 Speaker 2: So yes, we're seeing the return of the polo shirts 360 00:16:46,105 --> 00:16:48,505 Speaker 2: and the kind of preppiness of the moccasin, and it 361 00:16:48,545 --> 00:16:52,425 Speaker 2: could be the polo, but also touches of yoga and 362 00:16:52,465 --> 00:16:54,985 Speaker 2: pilates and ballet being brought into fashion. 363 00:16:55,305 --> 00:16:56,425 Speaker 1: And with waterproofs. 364 00:16:56,465 --> 00:16:59,025 Speaker 2: This is really interesting because obviously you know it rains 365 00:16:59,025 --> 00:17:01,665 Speaker 2: in Australia, but there's places in the Northern Hemisphere that 366 00:17:01,745 --> 00:17:05,705 Speaker 2: get very rainy and very cold and snowy, so waterproofs 367 00:17:05,745 --> 00:17:08,825 Speaker 2: are functional, but they're becoming more fashion now. It's kind 368 00:17:08,865 --> 00:17:12,585 Speaker 2: of that fitness turns to fashion and can be worn anywhere. 369 00:17:12,625 --> 00:17:15,785 Speaker 2: So waterproofs are you know, cool oversized trenches that are 370 00:17:15,785 --> 00:17:19,265 Speaker 2: obviously utilitarian but also really cool. Just to look at 371 00:17:19,345 --> 00:17:22,505 Speaker 2: the bonus is that it's waterproof, or boots that are 372 00:17:22,705 --> 00:17:24,985 Speaker 2: fully waterproof. You know, Marks and Spencer does that well, 373 00:17:25,025 --> 00:17:27,105 Speaker 2: being from London, and you'll also see sort of that 374 00:17:27,185 --> 00:17:30,345 Speaker 2: parachute material coming through in awesome cool maxi skirts. So 375 00:17:30,345 --> 00:17:33,945 Speaker 2: it's kind of like that sporty maybe I'm going skiing, 376 00:17:33,985 --> 00:17:36,265 Speaker 2: maybe I'm climbing a mountain, maybe I'm just going to 377 00:17:36,545 --> 00:17:41,265 Speaker 2: Pittstreet Mall. It's that kind of active fabrics in footwear 378 00:17:41,345 --> 00:17:44,865 Speaker 2: and in clothing and then sort of sporty, feminine coded 379 00:17:44,945 --> 00:17:48,345 Speaker 2: sporty touches. There's so many great brands that are doing 380 00:17:48,425 --> 00:17:49,625 Speaker 2: it and we're going to see it come through it, 381 00:17:49,665 --> 00:17:51,705 Speaker 2: like I said, in the regular brands. But my tip 382 00:17:51,905 --> 00:17:54,105 Speaker 2: is because Australians are so active, it's just go to 383 00:17:54,105 --> 00:17:55,665 Speaker 2: your active wear brands and. 384 00:17:55,665 --> 00:17:57,665 Speaker 1: Have a look at how cool some of the styles are. 385 00:17:57,705 --> 00:18:01,185 Speaker 2: You know, Lululemons, Marks and Spencer, which ships to Australia, 386 00:18:01,225 --> 00:18:03,825 Speaker 2: has a whole sports or an active whear category on 387 00:18:03,865 --> 00:18:06,065 Speaker 2: their website and half of it is stuff i'd wear 388 00:18:06,105 --> 00:18:08,225 Speaker 2: to the office or to a lunch, you know. It's 389 00:18:08,265 --> 00:18:11,865 Speaker 2: not that traditional black crop black leggings and your assics. 390 00:18:12,505 --> 00:18:16,545 Speaker 2: And of course Uniclo does this so well and always have. 391 00:18:16,585 --> 00:18:19,425 Speaker 2: They've got a tab called the Sports Utility where category 392 00:18:20,105 --> 00:18:23,105 Speaker 2: and there's some really cool wide leg pants that got 393 00:18:23,105 --> 00:18:26,385 Speaker 2: a sporty vibe. But there could go to the office. 394 00:18:26,465 --> 00:18:27,825 Speaker 2: You can put a came on and put a heel 395 00:18:27,865 --> 00:18:30,905 Speaker 2: if you like. And we did see last year track 396 00:18:30,945 --> 00:18:32,905 Speaker 2: sit pants with heels, which freaked some people out, but 397 00:18:32,905 --> 00:18:35,825 Speaker 2: we're going to see more of that. And it's estimated 398 00:18:35,825 --> 00:18:38,465 Speaker 2: that sweatpants are going to increase by twenty five percent 399 00:18:38,745 --> 00:18:41,185 Speaker 2: for the coming spring summer in the Northern hemisphere. So 400 00:18:41,465 --> 00:18:44,065 Speaker 2: we hated them after lockdown, and now we're back in sweatpants, 401 00:18:44,105 --> 00:18:46,665 Speaker 2: and it's just that they're elevated. They're not your bald, 402 00:18:47,185 --> 00:18:49,905 Speaker 2: gray mile old ones from the back of the cupboard. 403 00:18:49,905 --> 00:18:51,545 Speaker 2: They're ones you can wear at home, but then we're 404 00:18:51,585 --> 00:18:52,185 Speaker 2: out of the house. 405 00:19:03,745 --> 00:19:09,825 Speaker 3: It's very expensive. How old are these. 406 00:19:09,785 --> 00:19:13,825 Speaker 2: Tam You have got me very excited to explore more swedes. 407 00:19:13,825 --> 00:19:17,585 Speaker 2: So let's start with swayed something or both your booge 408 00:19:17,585 --> 00:19:19,905 Speaker 2: in budget Swede. They are in four Yeah, all right, 409 00:19:19,905 --> 00:19:21,745 Speaker 2: well let's just do all of yours. Let's stay in 410 00:19:21,785 --> 00:19:25,265 Speaker 2: Swede City and do both of yours. Because I've also cheated. 411 00:19:25,305 --> 00:19:28,145 Speaker 2: I've got two budgets, so I let you cheat that 412 00:19:28,185 --> 00:19:28,745 Speaker 2: I can cheat. 413 00:19:28,905 --> 00:19:29,985 Speaker 3: I've got two bougies. 414 00:19:30,545 --> 00:19:31,425 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 415 00:19:31,985 --> 00:19:35,625 Speaker 4: Allow me to persuade you with one of these for 416 00:19:35,945 --> 00:19:39,225 Speaker 4: my bougie. Yes, I brought two slouchy Swede bags. The 417 00:19:39,265 --> 00:19:43,225 Speaker 4: first one is from the Barley Taylor. It's called the 418 00:19:43,305 --> 00:19:47,065 Speaker 4: Clover slouch Bag and the shade that it's in is cocoa. 419 00:19:47,145 --> 00:19:50,465 Speaker 4: It's three hundred and nineteen dollars, so I would say 420 00:19:50,585 --> 00:19:53,185 Speaker 4: that is an investment in a handbag. But it's not 421 00:19:53,345 --> 00:19:56,505 Speaker 4: like blowing the budget. Doesn't have an extra zero in 422 00:19:56,545 --> 00:19:56,705 Speaker 4: the air. 423 00:19:56,825 --> 00:19:58,625 Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. And it's big. 424 00:19:58,665 --> 00:20:00,345 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at it online. It's huge. 425 00:20:00,705 --> 00:20:05,905 Speaker 4: This bag is massive. It's an really oversized hobo shape 426 00:20:05,905 --> 00:20:09,225 Speaker 4: that cocoons around your shoulder. That's one of the silhouettes 427 00:20:09,265 --> 00:20:12,105 Speaker 4: that are really seeing in the street stuff photos. I'm 428 00:20:12,145 --> 00:20:15,065 Speaker 4: seeing again it kind of throws to that Fatagua Venetta bag, 429 00:20:15,145 --> 00:20:18,305 Speaker 4: but that would actually be three thousand dollars three hundred dollars. 430 00:20:18,385 --> 00:20:20,945 Speaker 4: It's one of those chuck everything in bags. It's that 431 00:20:21,025 --> 00:20:22,945 Speaker 4: delicious dark coco shade. 432 00:20:23,265 --> 00:20:23,625 Speaker 3: Love it. 433 00:20:23,745 --> 00:20:26,785 Speaker 4: My second option for you, because we love options, is 434 00:20:26,785 --> 00:20:28,345 Speaker 4: from Vesteer Stick. 435 00:20:28,905 --> 00:20:32,665 Speaker 2: I can't say I say it right, Dirsy, but I'm 436 00:20:33,105 --> 00:20:36,225 Speaker 2: very Australian. But it's a Melbourne based brand heralding with 437 00:20:36,585 --> 00:20:38,625 Speaker 2: I think Italian leather, hence the name. 438 00:20:38,505 --> 00:20:40,225 Speaker 3: Got act Verstier to stick. 439 00:20:40,905 --> 00:20:44,305 Speaker 4: That's Sienna brown suede Hobo. It is two hundred and 440 00:20:44,345 --> 00:20:46,225 Speaker 4: ninety nine dollarses heaven. 441 00:20:46,425 --> 00:20:47,025 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a. 442 00:20:46,985 --> 00:20:49,545 Speaker 4: Good price point. I think for this level of quality. 443 00:20:50,265 --> 00:20:52,265 Speaker 2: Again that he's an amount of suede like you get 444 00:20:52,305 --> 00:20:56,145 Speaker 2: in It's not a cheap fabric exactly. No, so true, 445 00:20:56,265 --> 00:20:59,665 Speaker 2: it's still got that exaggerated hobo shape so it's oversized 446 00:20:59,985 --> 00:21:02,305 Speaker 2: and this one has a magnetic button closure at the 447 00:21:02,345 --> 00:21:03,985 Speaker 2: top so all your stuff's not going to spill out 448 00:21:03,985 --> 00:21:06,585 Speaker 2: on the when you put it down. So I love 449 00:21:06,665 --> 00:21:09,545 Speaker 2: this option to great brown color. It comes in three 450 00:21:09,705 --> 00:21:12,185 Speaker 2: color variations, or a light brown and a dark brown. 451 00:21:12,225 --> 00:21:13,585 Speaker 2: I actually love the lighter brown. 452 00:21:13,705 --> 00:21:15,385 Speaker 1: I love all of them. I'm not a black, oh, 453 00:21:15,425 --> 00:21:16,105 Speaker 1: I love them all. 454 00:21:16,185 --> 00:21:18,905 Speaker 2: And yeah, more of a traditional tan and it's of 455 00:21:18,905 --> 00:21:19,825 Speaker 2: an ossy business. 456 00:21:20,265 --> 00:21:21,625 Speaker 3: Exactly how do we water do? 457 00:21:21,665 --> 00:21:23,425 Speaker 1: We just get that waterproofer from the shoe shop. 458 00:21:23,465 --> 00:21:25,905 Speaker 4: That's what I've done, the one that I always say 459 00:21:25,945 --> 00:21:27,745 Speaker 4: no to and then regret later. I'm like, no, I 460 00:21:27,745 --> 00:21:30,145 Speaker 4: don't need thank you don't upsell me. And then I'm like, oh, 461 00:21:30,225 --> 00:21:34,065 Speaker 4: maybe that was a strategic upsell. Yes, I think you 462 00:21:34,145 --> 00:21:36,905 Speaker 4: need to waterproof it. I bought myself a Gucci bag 463 00:21:37,105 --> 00:21:39,905 Speaker 4: a long time ago, one black swede. 464 00:21:40,105 --> 00:21:44,425 Speaker 1: Yeah and adventurous. That's wild, such a big risk, and 465 00:21:44,585 --> 00:21:45,345 Speaker 1: yeah it's filthy. 466 00:21:45,425 --> 00:21:46,825 Speaker 3: I love her, but she's filthy. 467 00:21:46,945 --> 00:21:48,945 Speaker 4: So that would have been a good decision to make three. 468 00:21:49,185 --> 00:21:51,105 Speaker 2: You know, these two bags you've brought are that kind 469 00:21:51,145 --> 00:21:53,305 Speaker 2: of boho hobo slouchy like I. 470 00:21:53,265 --> 00:21:54,545 Speaker 1: Think these look good worn. 471 00:21:54,785 --> 00:21:57,345 Speaker 2: If you would get a little spiel, a little scuff, 472 00:21:57,385 --> 00:21:59,225 Speaker 2: they still look I mean they probably look cooler. 473 00:21:59,465 --> 00:22:01,345 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's so true, lean into. 474 00:22:01,225 --> 00:22:04,585 Speaker 2: It right, all right? Give me more affordable options, please, 475 00:22:05,145 --> 00:22:05,665 Speaker 2: any boat. 476 00:22:07,425 --> 00:22:09,905 Speaker 4: So I had a good dig for this shoe. I 477 00:22:09,945 --> 00:22:13,505 Speaker 4: really wanted to find a brown swede shoe option. The 478 00:22:13,505 --> 00:22:16,985 Speaker 4: one I found is from Charles and Keith, really great 479 00:22:17,345 --> 00:22:23,385 Speaker 4: accessible leather footwear. It's not bargain bin basement prices. But 480 00:22:23,785 --> 00:22:26,345 Speaker 4: this sandal that I found is it's called the cory 481 00:22:26,465 --> 00:22:29,745 Speaker 4: Swayede Slide one hundred and forty nine dollars, which I 482 00:22:29,745 --> 00:22:34,585 Speaker 4: think is quite good for Swede that's going to last. Essentially, 483 00:22:34,825 --> 00:22:38,785 Speaker 4: it's a footbed sandal with two thick straps. 484 00:22:38,425 --> 00:22:39,945 Speaker 3: In foot round mean. 485 00:22:39,985 --> 00:22:42,065 Speaker 2: Sorry to interrupt you, but I don't know what that means. 486 00:22:42,105 --> 00:22:44,865 Speaker 2: Like it looks a bit birkenstocky to me? Does foot 487 00:22:45,025 --> 00:22:45,905 Speaker 2: bed mean like correct? 488 00:22:45,945 --> 00:22:46,945 Speaker 1: Thick? Okay? Cool? 489 00:22:47,265 --> 00:22:48,865 Speaker 2: I always thought it meant that your foot had a 490 00:22:48,865 --> 00:22:51,225 Speaker 2: little bed. I guess yeah, so it's got some sort 491 00:22:51,225 --> 00:22:54,225 Speaker 2: of support. It's not that really fine piece of whatever 492 00:22:54,265 --> 00:22:55,225 Speaker 2: between you and the ground. 493 00:22:55,305 --> 00:22:56,905 Speaker 3: It's thicker, yeah, thicker leather. 494 00:22:56,985 --> 00:22:59,225 Speaker 4: So when you see a footbed, there's a few brands 495 00:22:59,225 --> 00:23:02,505 Speaker 4: that do them in Australia Alias May Salsana come to mind. 496 00:23:02,545 --> 00:23:04,825 Speaker 3: They all have their footbed style so they go bed. 497 00:23:05,465 --> 00:23:08,425 Speaker 4: Oh they're a really great chunky shoe option to take 498 00:23:08,465 --> 00:23:09,665 Speaker 4: you through into autumn. 499 00:23:09,425 --> 00:23:10,585 Speaker 3: Even though they're a slide. 500 00:23:10,825 --> 00:23:13,585 Speaker 4: I feel like because they're that Swede, they've got that 501 00:23:13,705 --> 00:23:16,465 Speaker 4: wintery texture. You can team them with jeans and knits 502 00:23:16,505 --> 00:23:18,225 Speaker 4: to add that touch of texture. 503 00:23:18,625 --> 00:23:18,985 Speaker 3: That's me. 504 00:23:19,265 --> 00:23:23,225 Speaker 2: I've brought two Tartan or plaid options for my budget 505 00:23:23,545 --> 00:23:25,825 Speaker 2: because until you reminded me that I actually do have 506 00:23:25,865 --> 00:23:28,225 Speaker 2: a lovely Tartan blazer, I'm thinking I'm going to do 507 00:23:28,265 --> 00:23:30,265 Speaker 2: a touch, but maybe I'll go dig out my blazer. 508 00:23:30,425 --> 00:23:34,465 Speaker 2: So Target have what's called the slim bow clip in plaid, 509 00:23:35,065 --> 00:23:37,345 Speaker 2: and it is literally a plaid little clip that you 510 00:23:37,385 --> 00:23:40,265 Speaker 2: put in. The website says it's very popular. It comes 511 00:23:40,265 --> 00:23:41,945 Speaker 2: in other colors and you can also get it in 512 00:23:41,945 --> 00:23:44,865 Speaker 2: a leopard print, but I just really like the plain 513 00:23:45,025 --> 00:23:48,265 Speaker 2: bow because again, as you said, it's kind of that 514 00:23:48,345 --> 00:23:52,545 Speaker 2: throwback to high society. It's a bit kind of what 515 00:23:52,665 --> 00:23:54,665 Speaker 2: I'm imagining in the Scottish countryside. 516 00:23:54,945 --> 00:23:56,585 Speaker 1: And I am at the point with. 517 00:23:56,465 --> 00:23:58,465 Speaker 2: Growing my hair, even though this is not a beauty podcast, 518 00:23:58,465 --> 00:23:59,745 Speaker 2: where I sometimes just need to do a bit of 519 00:23:59,745 --> 00:24:01,345 Speaker 2: a half up, half down or put it back. But 520 00:24:01,425 --> 00:24:03,745 Speaker 2: I look like I'm in my a leisure where and 521 00:24:03,825 --> 00:24:05,545 Speaker 2: I've just come from the gym, But sometimes I'm coming 522 00:24:05,585 --> 00:24:07,905 Speaker 2: to the office just this little bow is so cute, 523 00:24:07,905 --> 00:24:10,545 Speaker 2: and it's six dollars a cheek, and you know what, 524 00:24:10,825 --> 00:24:12,185 Speaker 2: make it into a bag time If you don't want 525 00:24:12,185 --> 00:24:15,065 Speaker 2: to wear it in your hair. Love And the other 526 00:24:15,145 --> 00:24:17,465 Speaker 2: one is from Marks and Spencer. So the joy of 527 00:24:17,505 --> 00:24:20,065 Speaker 2: shopping right now online is that the Northern Hemisphere are 528 00:24:20,105 --> 00:24:22,265 Speaker 2: on sale for all their autumn winter that they were 529 00:24:22,265 --> 00:24:23,025 Speaker 2: about to go into. 530 00:24:23,265 --> 00:24:24,065 Speaker 3: It's a good hack. 531 00:24:24,185 --> 00:24:25,505 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a good. 532 00:24:25,305 --> 00:24:27,385 Speaker 2: Hack for your ordrobe and not for your bank balance. 533 00:24:27,505 --> 00:24:31,065 Speaker 2: So the Marks and Spencer m Ands collection Checked scarf 534 00:24:31,185 --> 00:24:33,705 Speaker 2: it is thirty eight ninety nine. I think a scarf 535 00:24:33,745 --> 00:24:35,865 Speaker 2: is also a really good way sometimes to dip your 536 00:24:35,865 --> 00:24:39,505 Speaker 2: toe into a trend. It's just a big, chunky, checked scaff. 537 00:24:39,545 --> 00:24:41,545 Speaker 2: It looks like one of those throws you might put 538 00:24:41,585 --> 00:24:44,225 Speaker 2: on your couch. It's not quite that big, you know. 539 00:24:44,225 --> 00:24:46,185 Speaker 2: It's not the Lenni Kravitz wearing that blanket he did 540 00:24:46,185 --> 00:24:48,785 Speaker 2: that time. But it's just beautiful and warm, and if 541 00:24:48,785 --> 00:24:50,545 Speaker 2: you live in tazzy or someone that gets really cold, 542 00:24:50,665 --> 00:24:53,145 Speaker 2: or you travel, it kind of just adds that immediate 543 00:24:53,905 --> 00:24:56,265 Speaker 2: sheakness to everything else. 544 00:24:56,345 --> 00:24:58,745 Speaker 4: This is very much inspired by a scaff that Acne 545 00:24:58,865 --> 00:24:59,625 Speaker 4: Studios did. 546 00:24:59,985 --> 00:25:02,265 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am spending that on a scarf. 547 00:25:02,505 --> 00:25:04,465 Speaker 4: No, there are four or five hundred dollars, so this 548 00:25:04,545 --> 00:25:05,705 Speaker 4: is a more accessible way. 549 00:25:05,865 --> 00:25:07,265 Speaker 3: I love this scaff. 550 00:25:07,585 --> 00:25:10,385 Speaker 2: I love scarves, but I forget to wear them me too. 551 00:25:10,425 --> 00:25:12,825 Speaker 2: I think we need to like somehow keep scarves in 552 00:25:12,825 --> 00:25:16,665 Speaker 2: our car. Anyway, My bougie is one of those aforementioned 553 00:25:17,105 --> 00:25:20,825 Speaker 2: chic trenches that are waterproof. It is from Lululemon, but 554 00:25:20,865 --> 00:25:23,545 Speaker 2: it's an online exclusive, so you can't get it in stores. 555 00:25:23,585 --> 00:25:25,865 Speaker 2: It's called they always their trench coat, and I like 556 00:25:25,865 --> 00:25:28,305 Speaker 2: the color bone. I really like lighter colors. It comes 557 00:25:28,305 --> 00:25:30,705 Speaker 2: in a black, but I feel like a bit inspector 558 00:25:30,705 --> 00:25:32,305 Speaker 2: gudget if I wear. 559 00:25:32,345 --> 00:25:33,985 Speaker 1: A big black trench. 560 00:25:34,585 --> 00:25:36,345 Speaker 2: It comes in a bone, and it's got that really 561 00:25:36,425 --> 00:25:41,585 Speaker 2: kind of cool lapel. That's the double thing. The arm 562 00:25:41,705 --> 00:25:44,105 Speaker 2: risty belt, I can never remember that's called. It's not 563 00:25:44,145 --> 00:25:44,945 Speaker 2: a cuff, it's just something. 564 00:25:44,985 --> 00:25:47,265 Speaker 3: I don't think it's an arm risty belt, but no, they. 565 00:25:47,105 --> 00:25:47,825 Speaker 1: Don't call it that. 566 00:25:47,905 --> 00:25:51,945 Speaker 2: Weirdly has some kind of very subtle Lululemon branding, but 567 00:25:51,985 --> 00:25:52,705 Speaker 2: you could remove that. 568 00:25:52,745 --> 00:25:56,145 Speaker 1: I think it's just cool. And the model is five. 569 00:25:56,185 --> 00:25:58,785 Speaker 2: Ten and it comes past her knees, so on me 570 00:25:58,865 --> 00:26:00,145 Speaker 2: it would be almost full length. 571 00:26:00,545 --> 00:26:01,145 Speaker 1: I do like that. 572 00:26:01,185 --> 00:26:04,065 Speaker 2: Lululemon does quite a lot of different lengths for their 573 00:26:04,105 --> 00:26:06,545 Speaker 2: items because they've got such a broad audience. It's just 574 00:26:06,745 --> 00:26:09,905 Speaker 2: very cool, lightweight, trans seasonal. Imagine that for travel, if 575 00:26:09,945 --> 00:26:13,425 Speaker 2: you're going somewhere the weather's unpredictable, it's very easy to 576 00:26:13,465 --> 00:26:15,865 Speaker 2: pack and lightweight. Great for the plane, great for everything. 577 00:26:15,905 --> 00:26:18,385 Speaker 2: I think I'm convincing myself, but it is three hundred 578 00:26:18,425 --> 00:26:21,025 Speaker 2: and twenty nine dollars. So I think with a trench 579 00:26:21,145 --> 00:26:22,985 Speaker 2: like that, you can get a fashion trench and then 580 00:26:22,985 --> 00:26:24,785 Speaker 2: you can get a functional trench. But I think the 581 00:26:24,785 --> 00:26:28,945 Speaker 2: fusion of both is amazing, and I wish I didn't 582 00:26:28,985 --> 00:26:30,505 Speaker 2: have so many trenches. I'm gonna have to sell a 583 00:26:30,505 --> 00:26:33,265 Speaker 2: few so I can invest in something it's functioning. Well, 584 00:26:33,265 --> 00:26:35,305 Speaker 2: you've sold me, maybe I'll buy it, Okay, then we 585 00:26:35,305 --> 00:26:35,705 Speaker 2: can share. 586 00:26:35,745 --> 00:26:36,465 Speaker 3: I might get the black. 587 00:26:36,585 --> 00:26:39,305 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't strike me as a detective, but I 588 00:26:39,305 --> 00:26:40,945 Speaker 2: somehow I think it's the dark hair and the love 589 00:26:40,945 --> 00:26:42,905 Speaker 2: of big sunglasses. When I put it all together, I 590 00:26:42,945 --> 00:26:45,105 Speaker 2: look like I'm sneaking around to take pup shots. 591 00:26:46,225 --> 00:26:46,505 Speaker 1: Tam. 592 00:26:46,545 --> 00:26:48,345 Speaker 2: As always, I learned so much from you. I have 593 00:26:48,385 --> 00:26:50,665 Speaker 2: the best time chatting to you. So we'll speak to 594 00:26:50,665 --> 00:26:53,065 Speaker 2: you in another month or so with some more fashion news. 595 00:26:53,185 --> 00:26:55,025 Speaker 4: That'd be great because it's a bit of a liability 596 00:26:55,025 --> 00:26:57,385 Speaker 4: for my wallet, so any more than that, it's going 597 00:26:57,425 --> 00:26:59,225 Speaker 4: to stop and I have to be at a card debt. 598 00:26:59,265 --> 00:27:00,665 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. 599 00:27:01,425 --> 00:27:03,385 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. I hope 600 00:27:03,385 --> 00:27:06,385 Speaker 2: you enjoy that episode. And if you're not already subscribed 601 00:27:06,465 --> 00:27:09,825 Speaker 2: to the Nothing to Wear newsletter, you should subscribe. It's free, 602 00:27:09,825 --> 00:27:12,665 Speaker 2: and the amazing Tamara puts it together. 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