1 00:00:06,415 --> 00:00:09,135 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea podcast. 2 00:00:14,455 --> 00:00:17,614 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is MMA MIA's twice daily 3 00:00:17,655 --> 00:00:21,415 Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie. As we head into the busiest 4 00:00:21,455 --> 00:00:24,175 Speaker 2: shopping season of the year, many of us are turning 5 00:00:24,215 --> 00:00:28,815 Speaker 2: to online marketplaces for bargain toys, but not everything in 6 00:00:28,815 --> 00:00:32,415 Speaker 2: that cart is as safe as it seems. New research 7 00:00:32,455 --> 00:00:35,855 Speaker 2: reveals a hidden danger inside some of the most affordable 8 00:00:35,935 --> 00:00:39,214 Speaker 2: kids toys. Before we get there, here's Claire Murphy with 9 00:00:39,214 --> 00:00:43,215 Speaker 2: the latest from the Quicki news room for Wednesday, November nineteen. 10 00:00:43,214 --> 00:00:46,055 Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. Parents of kids under sixteen are frustrated that 11 00:00:46,095 --> 00:00:48,695 Speaker 1: the details around what exactly will happen when the social 12 00:00:48,735 --> 00:00:51,974 Speaker 1: media band kicks in on December ten remain unclear. The 13 00:00:51,974 --> 00:00:56,175 Speaker 1: government initiative will require platforms to deactivate existing accounts held 14 00:00:56,215 --> 00:00:59,694 Speaker 1: by any underage users, with any news signups required to 15 00:00:59,775 --> 00:01:03,815 Speaker 1: undergo an age verification check. The age verification process may 16 00:01:03,815 --> 00:01:08,054 Speaker 1: include facial analysis, behavioral data, and other ID checks, with 17 00:01:08,135 --> 00:01:10,415 Speaker 1: a review process in place for any accounts that are 18 00:01:10,415 --> 00:01:14,055 Speaker 1: incorrectly flagged as being under sixteen. Some platforms say they 19 00:01:14,055 --> 00:01:17,415 Speaker 1: will archive these accounts until the user turn sixteen, when 20 00:01:17,415 --> 00:01:20,175 Speaker 1: they can be reactivated. However, the advice is for any 21 00:01:20,295 --> 00:01:22,694 Speaker 1: users to download any data they want to keep before 22 00:01:22,735 --> 00:01:25,615 Speaker 1: December ten, just in case it's lost in that time. 23 00:01:25,935 --> 00:01:30,735 Speaker 1: The platforms impacted by the ban include Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok, 24 00:01:30,895 --> 00:01:34,735 Speaker 1: YouTube and Reddit. While gaming platform Roadblocks has been excluded. 25 00:01:35,015 --> 00:01:37,535 Speaker 1: They have announced that they will also introduce an age 26 00:01:37,615 --> 00:01:41,735 Speaker 1: verification system in three countries, including Australia. The new system 27 00:01:41,775 --> 00:01:44,695 Speaker 1: requires anyone who wants to privately message another player to 28 00:01:44,815 --> 00:01:48,095 Speaker 1: verify their age. Roadblocks has recently announced they plan to 29 00:01:48,175 --> 00:01:51,655 Speaker 1: user company called Persona to estimate a player's age by 30 00:01:51,695 --> 00:01:54,455 Speaker 1: making them take a selfie video, which is deleted after 31 00:01:54,495 --> 00:01:58,135 Speaker 1: the age check is completed. Roadblocks currently doesn't allow anyone 32 00:01:58,255 --> 00:02:01,695 Speaker 1: under thirteen to chat privately with other players without parental permission, 33 00:02:01,975 --> 00:02:04,495 Speaker 1: and their chats aren't encrypted so they can be moderated 34 00:02:04,575 --> 00:02:08,454 Speaker 1: and monitored. The Victorian Liberals have left themselves just over 35 00:02:08,495 --> 00:02:11,654 Speaker 1: twelve months to regroup after ditching Brad Batten as leader 36 00:02:11,734 --> 00:02:15,135 Speaker 1: yesterday in favor of first term MP Jess Wilson. Miss 37 00:02:15,175 --> 00:02:17,734 Speaker 1: Wilson has promised a campaign on the cost of living, 38 00:02:17,855 --> 00:02:21,615 Speaker 1: budget debt, crime, health and home ownership to end Labour's 39 00:02:21,615 --> 00:02:24,695 Speaker 1: three term government next November The thirty five year old 40 00:02:24,695 --> 00:02:27,135 Speaker 1: became the first woman to leave the Victorian Liberals in 41 00:02:27,175 --> 00:02:29,855 Speaker 1: the party's history, and is viewed as a bigger challenger 42 00:02:29,895 --> 00:02:33,495 Speaker 1: to Labour led by Premier Justin to Allen. Israeli Prime 43 00:02:33,495 --> 00:02:37,175 Speaker 1: Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was applauding the United Nations approval of 44 00:02:37,175 --> 00:02:40,975 Speaker 1: the Trump Administration's blueprint to secure and govern Gaza, while 45 00:02:41,015 --> 00:02:43,815 Speaker 1: Hamas has rejected the plan, calling it a foreign instrument 46 00:02:43,815 --> 00:02:47,215 Speaker 1: of control. The resolution that passed the UN Security Council 47 00:02:47,255 --> 00:02:52,215 Speaker 1: on Monday authorizes an international Stabilization force to provide security 48 00:02:52,295 --> 00:02:56,015 Speaker 1: in war devastated Gaza, approves a transitional authority called the 49 00:02:56,015 --> 00:02:58,775 Speaker 1: Board of Peace, to be overseen by President Donald Trump, 50 00:02:59,015 --> 00:03:03,014 Speaker 1: and envisions a possible future path to an independent Palestinian state, 51 00:03:03,295 --> 00:03:06,455 Speaker 1: although it doesn't clearly outline a time frame for that process. 52 00:03:06,775 --> 00:03:10,055 Speaker 1: Netnyahu's office wrote on social media yesterday, we believe that 53 00:03:10,175 --> 00:03:13,975 Speaker 1: President Trump's plan will lead to peace and prosperity because 54 00:03:14,055 --> 00:03:19,295 Speaker 1: it insists upon full demilitarization, disarmament, and the deradicalization of Gaza. 55 00:03:19,615 --> 00:03:23,095 Speaker 1: Hammas said on Monday, though, that the force's mandate including disarmament, 56 00:03:23,175 --> 00:03:25,975 Speaker 1: strips it of its neutrality and turns it into a 57 00:03:26,015 --> 00:03:29,255 Speaker 1: party of the conflict in favor of the occupation. Saying 58 00:03:29,295 --> 00:03:31,775 Speaker 1: the resolution did not meet the level of the Palestinian 59 00:03:31,775 --> 00:03:35,935 Speaker 1: people's political and humanitarian demands and rights, Hammas demanded that 60 00:03:35,975 --> 00:03:39,655 Speaker 1: any international force be under UN supervision, deploy only at 61 00:03:39,695 --> 00:03:43,375 Speaker 1: Gaza's borders, to monitor the ceasefire, and operate exclusively with 62 00:03:43,495 --> 00:03:48,215 Speaker 1: Palestinian institutions. The Palestinian authority welcomed the resolution and said 63 00:03:48,215 --> 00:03:50,735 Speaker 1: it was ready to immediately implement it. On the ground, 64 00:03:51,015 --> 00:03:53,255 Speaker 1: it said it would cooperate with the US, the UN, 65 00:03:53,295 --> 00:03:57,215 Speaker 1: and other Arab and European states. The La County Sheriff's 66 00:03:57,215 --> 00:04:00,375 Speaker 1: Department is investigating a new sexual battery allegation against hip 67 00:04:00,415 --> 00:04:03,575 Speaker 1: hop mogul Sean Diddy Combs. Combs, who are serving a 68 00:04:03,575 --> 00:04:07,375 Speaker 1: four year prison sentence on prostitute related convictions, has been 69 00:04:07,415 --> 00:04:10,895 Speaker 1: accused by a male music producer and publicist who says 70 00:04:10,935 --> 00:04:13,615 Speaker 1: he was asked to come to a photoshoot in twenty twenty, 71 00:04:13,815 --> 00:04:17,174 Speaker 1: where he claims Combs exposed himself while performing a sex 72 00:04:17,214 --> 00:04:20,815 Speaker 1: act and told the accuser to assist. Combs then allegedly 73 00:04:20,855 --> 00:04:23,575 Speaker 1: tossed a dirty shirt at the man. The accuser, whose 74 00:04:23,655 --> 00:04:25,975 Speaker 1: name is redacted in the police report said he didn't 75 00:04:26,015 --> 00:04:29,415 Speaker 1: tell anyone for several years because he felt embarrassed. The 76 00:04:29,535 --> 00:04:32,295 Speaker 1: La Sheriff's Department said it received the official copy of 77 00:04:32,295 --> 00:04:35,175 Speaker 1: the report from the Florida Department on Friday and will 78 00:04:35,175 --> 00:04:39,055 Speaker 1: be investigating the allegations. The report also details an incident 79 00:04:39,055 --> 00:04:42,135 Speaker 1: from March twenty twenty one in which the accuser claims 80 00:04:42,175 --> 00:04:44,975 Speaker 1: two men covered his head before Combs came into the 81 00:04:45,055 --> 00:04:46,534 Speaker 1: room and called him a snitch. 82 00:04:47,055 --> 00:04:51,094 Speaker 2: Thanks Claire. Next the loophole allowing unsafe toys to be 83 00:04:51,215 --> 00:05:00,615 Speaker 2: sold online. Look, I don't mean to alarm you, but 84 00:05:00,895 --> 00:05:05,895 Speaker 2: Christmas is just thirty seven days away. If you've got 85 00:05:05,975 --> 00:05:08,695 Speaker 2: young folks in your life, and, like many of us, 86 00:05:08,815 --> 00:05:11,375 Speaker 2: are trying to do prezzy shopping without having to take 87 00:05:11,455 --> 00:05:15,055 Speaker 2: out alone, you might be looking online for affordable options 88 00:05:15,095 --> 00:05:18,414 Speaker 2: to pop under the tree this year. But, as with 89 00:05:18,535 --> 00:05:23,214 Speaker 2: everything online, purchasing toys from web based marketplaces doesn't come 90 00:05:23,295 --> 00:05:27,935 Speaker 2: without risks. Consumer advocacy group Choice has just released the 91 00:05:27,975 --> 00:05:32,375 Speaker 2: findings from their latest investigation into button battery based products 92 00:05:32,455 --> 00:05:37,535 Speaker 2: from various online retailers. The TLDR well many stores are 93 00:05:37,575 --> 00:05:40,695 Speaker 2: offering up products with less than safe features when it 94 00:05:40,735 --> 00:05:45,214 Speaker 2: comes to securing the batteries. Now, this raises concerns. As 95 00:05:45,255 --> 00:05:48,615 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three children in Australia have died from 96 00:05:48,735 --> 00:05:52,495 Speaker 2: ingesting those little round batteries, while the Australian Competition and 97 00:05:52,575 --> 00:05:57,335 Speaker 2: Consumer Commission estimates around one child every month is seriously injured. 98 00:05:58,095 --> 00:06:00,895 Speaker 2: World First laws came into effect in Australia back in 99 00:06:00,975 --> 00:06:05,495 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, introducing safety standards around these types of products. 100 00:06:05,895 --> 00:06:06,975 Speaker 1: But the kicker is. 101 00:06:07,295 --> 00:06:12,015 Speaker 2: That don't actually apply to online marketplaces selling other businesses products. 102 00:06:12,415 --> 00:06:15,094 Speaker 2: So what are you supposed to do when trawling for 103 00:06:15,135 --> 00:06:18,414 Speaker 2: those Christmas presents this year? To explain more, were joined 104 00:06:18,415 --> 00:06:22,335 Speaker 2: by Choices Director of Campaigns Rosie Thomas. Rosie, tell me 105 00:06:22,335 --> 00:06:26,015 Speaker 2: about this Choice investigation. What were you looking for and 106 00:06:26,055 --> 00:06:27,015 Speaker 2: where did you go looking? 107 00:06:27,855 --> 00:06:32,775 Speaker 3: So we purchased twenty four toys containing button batteries from 108 00:06:32,895 --> 00:06:38,495 Speaker 3: popular online marketplaces and we found that seventeen of them 109 00:06:38,735 --> 00:06:43,335 Speaker 3: failed to comply with the mandatory button battery safety standard. Now, 110 00:06:43,375 --> 00:06:49,335 Speaker 3: these toys were on shan Ali Express, eBay and Amazon 111 00:06:49,775 --> 00:06:53,495 Speaker 3: and we found that they had serious safety failures. So 112 00:06:53,575 --> 00:06:57,535 Speaker 3: that's things like battery compartments that could be opened without 113 00:06:57,575 --> 00:07:02,135 Speaker 3: a tool, missing warning labels. And the screws for some 114 00:07:02,175 --> 00:07:05,335 Speaker 3: of those battery compartments weren't captive, so that means that 115 00:07:05,655 --> 00:07:08,654 Speaker 3: you could easily lose the screw when you're replacing the 116 00:07:08,655 --> 00:07:09,575 Speaker 3: battery and the toy. 117 00:07:09,975 --> 00:07:13,935 Speaker 2: This is concerning obviously we're fast approaching Christmas and people 118 00:07:14,135 --> 00:07:16,855 Speaker 2: start doing their Christmas shopping. There'll be toys under the 119 00:07:16,895 --> 00:07:19,655 Speaker 2: tree to open on Christmas Day. So what are some 120 00:07:19,695 --> 00:07:22,095 Speaker 2: of the risks here if people are purchasing these products 121 00:07:22,095 --> 00:07:24,415 Speaker 2: and maybe a screw comes loose or you're able to 122 00:07:24,415 --> 00:07:26,295 Speaker 2: flick it open and get one of those batteries out. 123 00:07:26,335 --> 00:07:27,775 Speaker 2: What are we actually talking about here? 124 00:07:28,095 --> 00:07:30,455 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really good question and an easy thing 125 00:07:30,535 --> 00:07:34,935 Speaker 3: to lose sight of. And so button batteries can be 126 00:07:35,055 --> 00:07:39,895 Speaker 3: catastrophically harmful to small children when they are ingested, and 127 00:07:39,975 --> 00:07:42,415 Speaker 3: they are things that small children will often put in 128 00:07:42,495 --> 00:07:46,415 Speaker 3: their mouth because they're shiny and round. Now, tragically in 129 00:07:46,455 --> 00:07:51,135 Speaker 3: Australia three children have died from swallowing a button battery 130 00:07:51,655 --> 00:07:55,375 Speaker 3: and it's following those deaths and after years of advocacy 131 00:07:55,415 --> 00:07:59,735 Speaker 3: of many people, including Choice, that we finally introduced button 132 00:07:59,775 --> 00:08:03,935 Speaker 3: battery safety standards in Australia. Now there were world leading 133 00:08:03,975 --> 00:08:08,695 Speaker 3: standards designed to protect children from the dangers of button batteries. 134 00:08:09,215 --> 00:08:13,055 Speaker 3: But what we're finding is several years after those standards 135 00:08:13,055 --> 00:08:16,855 Speaker 3: were introduced, we can still find toys that don't comply 136 00:08:16,975 --> 00:08:20,095 Speaker 3: with the standard on the online marketplaces very easily. 137 00:08:20,495 --> 00:08:23,975 Speaker 2: Yeah. So why is that Because the safety standards don't 138 00:08:23,975 --> 00:08:27,695 Speaker 2: necessarily apply to those online retailers, right, Yeah, so. 139 00:08:27,695 --> 00:08:29,655 Speaker 3: There's a bit of a gap in the law. What 140 00:08:29,695 --> 00:08:33,215 Speaker 3: that means is that it's the responsibility of the third 141 00:08:33,295 --> 00:08:38,015 Speaker 3: party sellers using these marketplaces to ensure the products comply. 142 00:08:38,375 --> 00:08:42,175 Speaker 3: On something like shan and Ali Express, even eBay or Amazon, 143 00:08:42,575 --> 00:08:47,415 Speaker 3: they're often small offshore operators that don't really care too 144 00:08:47,455 --> 00:08:51,335 Speaker 3: much about their reputations or compliance, and so that makes 145 00:08:51,335 --> 00:08:54,095 Speaker 3: it really hard for the AH Triple C or other 146 00:08:54,215 --> 00:08:58,055 Speaker 3: authorities to take any real enforcement action or do a 147 00:08:58,054 --> 00:09:01,375 Speaker 3: lot about them now a choice, we think that the 148 00:09:01,575 --> 00:09:05,975 Speaker 3: online marketplaces, they are all making money selling these products, 149 00:09:05,975 --> 00:09:08,855 Speaker 3: and so they should take responsibility for the safety of 150 00:09:08,895 --> 00:09:12,495 Speaker 3: what's on there, and so we're advocating for stronger safety 151 00:09:12,535 --> 00:09:17,575 Speaker 3: laws that would require all businesses, including the online marketplaces, 152 00:09:17,855 --> 00:09:20,655 Speaker 3: to do more to make sure the products are safe. 153 00:09:20,935 --> 00:09:23,535 Speaker 2: Nobody likes to be told that they're doing the wrong thing, 154 00:09:23,695 --> 00:09:27,055 Speaker 2: or they're maybe not being compliant. Once you ran these 155 00:09:27,095 --> 00:09:30,215 Speaker 2: tests identified the ones that were maybe at risk, what happened? 156 00:09:30,255 --> 00:09:31,694 Speaker 2: Did you reach out to the companies? 157 00:09:32,095 --> 00:09:32,535 Speaker 1: We did. 158 00:09:32,575 --> 00:09:36,015 Speaker 3: We always do when we find unsafe products and hope 159 00:09:36,054 --> 00:09:39,655 Speaker 3: that companies will do the right thing. In this instance, 160 00:09:39,695 --> 00:09:42,455 Speaker 3: we got a range of responses, which was really interesting 161 00:09:42,535 --> 00:09:46,255 Speaker 3: in and of itself. Shan didn't respond to Choice at all, 162 00:09:46,455 --> 00:09:49,375 Speaker 3: so we don't know whether they've received it. They haven't 163 00:09:49,415 --> 00:09:53,255 Speaker 3: acknowledged it in any way. Ali Express responded, but they 164 00:09:53,375 --> 00:09:58,415 Speaker 3: rejected our findings as unsubstantiated, and then eBay and Amazon 165 00:09:58,495 --> 00:10:02,215 Speaker 3: responded reasonably promptly and confirmed that they've removed these products 166 00:10:02,295 --> 00:10:03,015 Speaker 3: from sale. 167 00:10:03,095 --> 00:10:06,095 Speaker 2: So that's the online space, But this kind of issues 168 00:10:06,135 --> 00:10:09,975 Speaker 2: still does exist in other types of retailers as well. 169 00:10:10,495 --> 00:10:13,935 Speaker 3: Yes, that's absolutely right. Just last week we saw the 170 00:10:13,935 --> 00:10:18,895 Speaker 3: Wiggles m a yellow headband was recalled for button battery issues. 171 00:10:18,935 --> 00:10:21,214 Speaker 3: And over the years, I know the h PLC has 172 00:10:21,335 --> 00:10:24,415 Speaker 3: taken I think City Beach, one of the surf retailers 173 00:10:24,775 --> 00:10:28,375 Speaker 3: through the courts as well for failures around button battery safety. 174 00:10:28,455 --> 00:10:33,135 Speaker 3: So you're absolutely right, it's not just an online marketplace issue, 175 00:10:33,255 --> 00:10:35,855 Speaker 3: but the difference is when it comes to the bricks 176 00:10:35,895 --> 00:10:38,815 Speaker 3: and mortar stores and the local stores, the ah PLEC 177 00:10:39,015 --> 00:10:41,535 Speaker 3: does have the tools and the powers to do something 178 00:10:41,575 --> 00:10:43,975 Speaker 3: about it, and that's why we hear about things like 179 00:10:44,095 --> 00:10:48,695 Speaker 3: recalls for those other products. Whereas the online marketplaces, there 180 00:10:48,775 --> 00:10:51,415 Speaker 3: does seem to be a gap in the law, and 181 00:10:51,455 --> 00:10:54,454 Speaker 3: that's why we're advocating for stronger laws to close that gap. 182 00:10:54,775 --> 00:10:58,095 Speaker 2: So where does this leave shoppers or I guess parents 183 00:10:58,095 --> 00:11:01,255 Speaker 2: who are looking to buy those Christmas presents. Obviously, the 184 00:11:01,295 --> 00:11:05,255 Speaker 2: allure of places like things online marketplace and retailers is 185 00:11:05,295 --> 00:11:07,855 Speaker 2: that they are more affordable and you can get more 186 00:11:07,895 --> 00:11:09,695 Speaker 2: bang for your buck. It can go further, you can 187 00:11:09,735 --> 00:11:12,574 Speaker 2: put more under the tree, but you also maybe run 188 00:11:12,615 --> 00:11:15,655 Speaker 2: the risk of some of these other issues that you've identified. 189 00:11:15,695 --> 00:11:17,175 Speaker 2: So what advice do you have for them? 190 00:11:17,935 --> 00:11:20,935 Speaker 3: We very much understand that it's an expensive time of 191 00:11:21,015 --> 00:11:24,934 Speaker 3: year and parents might be tempted by the cheaper options 192 00:11:25,095 --> 00:11:29,015 Speaker 3: on these online marketplaces. Our advice is that when it 193 00:11:29,015 --> 00:11:33,135 Speaker 3: comes to toys, baby products, or really anything where safety 194 00:11:33,215 --> 00:11:38,215 Speaker 3: really matters, we recommend avoiding the cheap online sellers because 195 00:11:38,255 --> 00:11:40,535 Speaker 3: time and time again that is where we find the 196 00:11:40,575 --> 00:11:43,335 Speaker 3: products that fail to meet the safety standards. 197 00:11:45,735 --> 00:11:47,855 Speaker 2: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with 198 00:11:47,975 --> 00:11:50,934 Speaker 2: us today. The Quikie is produced by me Tail Strano, 199 00:11:51,135 --> 00:11:55,255 Speaker 2: Lario Brophy, and Claire Murphy, with audio production by Lou Hill. 200 00:12:02,775 --> 00:12:05,495 Speaker 1: Muma. Mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and wars 201 00:12:05,575 --> 00:12:07,575 Speaker 1: ortters that this podcast is recorded on