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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges

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Speaker 1: is recorded on Makeup is My Therapy. I'm obsess and

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Speaker 1: I don't even feel guilty about it. Hello, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to you Beauty the daily podcast for Your Face.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly mccaren and what a great

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Speaker 2: way to start the weekly well I'm having about beauty.

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Speaker 1: I'm answering some beauty Christians. What do we do on

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Speaker 1: a Monday, Kelly, Every single Monday, we answer your beauty questions,

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Speaker 1: and today we've got some great ones. I couldn't help wonder,

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Speaker 1: ask me anything, you ask any questions.

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Speaker 2: So later on in the episode, we are going to

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Speaker 2: be talking about what our skin and makeup routines would

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Speaker 2: look like if we didn't work in the beauty space.

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Speaker 2: But first a question from Emily on Instagram. Two questions, ladies.

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Speaker 2: First one any recommendations for at home broughtints and second

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Speaker 2: random one anything you'd recommend for dry and flaky eyelids.

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Speaker 2: I don't do anything out of the ordinary and skincare,

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Speaker 2: I remove my makeup, cleansed tone serums in an oil

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Speaker 2: at night I don't generally use an eyeshadow on lids.

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Speaker 2: I'm currently pregnant soon to be breastfeeding, if that makes

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Speaker 1: Hello, Emily. We will allow two questions because you're pregnant,

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Speaker 1: so one is for you and one is for very quick,

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Speaker 1: very quick home brow tints, Easy Easy, Easy, get one

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Speaker 1: thousand hour eyelash and brow dye kit.

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Speaker 2: It is the world's both soulular. It's under twenty bucks,

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Speaker 2: isn't it so easy?

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Speaker 1: It's nineteen ninety nine at the time of recording. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at it on price sign it's thirteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: so that's an option. But I do have a few

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Speaker 1: others quickly for you. I've wanted to try forever but haven't.

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Speaker 1: So if you've got time on Matt Leave, can you

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Speaker 1: let us know loll time on Matt Leaf. It's called

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Speaker 1: Refecto sil lash and brow Thint. We'll put a link

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Speaker 1: in the show notes, of course, because it's one of

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Speaker 1: those like industry ones. It's what they actually use. Woh

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Speaker 1: fifteen dollars. And then my brow person gave me a

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Speaker 1: tip because my eyebrows are really poutchy. They start off

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Speaker 1: quite good and then they just go she said, you

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Speaker 1: men's beard or hair dye like a semi.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so it's more.

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Speaker 1: It's not a tint. It's a dye, but obviously you're

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Speaker 1: washing your face and stuff. It doesn't last as long

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Speaker 2: That's such a good tint.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I've done it. It's so good. The one I

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Speaker 1: use is called just for men mustache and beard in

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Speaker 2: I hope you didn't use it on your beard. We don't.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I buzzed that off while I've got this

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Speaker 1: So it also depends on your coloring. Make sure you

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Speaker 1: it sounds like it might be a little bit of XMAS.

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Speaker 1: So you're pregnant. That's really really common dermatitis or XMI.

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Speaker 1: of winter, a bit of pregnancy. And then a few

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Speaker 1: No, and her hope it's good for that because it's antibacteria.

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Speaker 2: press my brain. Woman, Yes it feels so good.

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Speaker 1: But don't do that. Don't press your brain. Try Kelly's chip.

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Speaker 1: And also both products coming.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you're going to have answered this question

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Speaker 1: Well, I overthought it, and then I thought I'm overthinking it.

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Speaker 1: And also because I've done a little bit of travel,

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Speaker 2: I just take minis for things I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I took a very expensive moisturizer to London recently. A

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Speaker 1: The second one is skin Cutical Sea Epheroics serum.

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Speaker 2: I'm shocked two.

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Speaker 1: Hundred and forty two dollars. Kelly and I were texting

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Speaker 2: And I've broken number or what did you do?

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Speaker 1: Rebound Serum. This is the serum that is designed by

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Speaker 2: This is what I mean when I'm saying I overthought

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, because you already have trust in the brand and.

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Speaker 2: I love so many of the products.

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Speaker 1: You know why that's good? Because there's research that shows

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Speaker 1: during cost of living crisis, women go back to heritage

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Speaker 1: brands that they know and trust. They're less likely to

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Speaker 1: But also if you're risking money for a sixty dollars

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Speaker 1: product you've never tried, if you know you like other

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Speaker 1: stuff from that brand exactly.

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Speaker 2: where I've never tried a dud So Fresh Beauty, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: the skincare ho Hoober Company, Charlotte Tilbury Rare beauty.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, tart Okay, So you're an accountant, oh.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully else I'm a florist, like selling my feet, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: as well? And the one treatment I would consistently once.

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Speaker 1: Needling? Yes. I definitely think that's a good tip if

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Speaker 2: Look for sales, and remember that you don't actually need

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Speaker 2: We're saying, hey, for those of you who are looking

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Speaker 1: We're trying to edit down the market, not make you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was quite hard, but it was fun.

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Speaker 1: It was fun. Okay. Next, inspired by the ubis in

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Speaker 3: What you makeup packs?

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Speaker 1: Well, kel, I am actually going to click bait and wait,

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Speaker 1: and I want you to do your host tach first.

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Speaker 1: What are you bringing today? Well?

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Speaker 2: Mine is also hair related. I just would like to

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Speaker 2: it's just a bit of hack. The Curly Girl method

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Speaker 1: No, it's not for everyone. I do see some people

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a bunch of different methods, but the idea

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Speaker 2: It's not for everyone. And if you do have curly

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's also just with everything and unrelated.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And you know what, curly curly, Beth, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: So someone johmped it and said, I don't understand how

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Speaker 1: Lee finishes her conditioner before her shampoo.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm right here.

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, I know her. I can ask

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Speaker 1: And look, I'm not perfect. Sometimes I'll be thinking of

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