WEBVTT - The Best Tips For A Wardrobe Clean Out 0:00:10.745 --> 0:00:15.425 You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges the 0:00:15.465 --> 0:00:18.545 traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is 0:00:18.585 --> 0:00:22.825 recorded on whoever said orange is a new pink with 0:00:22.985 --> 0:00:27.585 seriously disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking. Oh my god, you 0:00:27.745 --> 0:00:32.185 have to do it. You live for fashion. Hello, and 0:00:32.265 --> 0:00:35.305 welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that solves fashion 0:00:35.345 --> 0:00:39.025 problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'mill a Campberlon. Every 0:00:39.065 --> 0:00:41.585 week I talk to an expert who helps us work 0:00:41.665 --> 0:00:43.465 out how to get more out of the clothes we 0:00:43.505 --> 0:00:45.945 already own and tells us exactly what is and isn't 0:00:45.945 --> 0:00:49.865 worth adding to our wardrobe. Forget spring cleaning. Now is 0:00:49.865 --> 0:00:52.065 the perfect time to look at your wardrobe. Look at 0:00:52.065 --> 0:00:54.665 all your clothes, fall in love with what you love, 0:00:54.825 --> 0:00:57.545 get the dusty stuff from out the back, ask yourself 0:00:57.545 --> 0:00:59.385 why you're keeping it. But it can be hard, It 0:00:59.385 --> 0:01:02.985 can be incredibly overwhelming. I personally struggle with clearing my 0:01:03.025 --> 0:01:04.705 wardrobe out, and I try to do it all the time, 0:01:04.745 --> 0:01:07.385 but I've not nailed the method. So I've brought back 0:01:07.465 --> 0:01:11.505 someone who is ruthless and honest, and I love her advice. 0:01:11.745 --> 0:01:14.665 Nicoleber nithen Hines is a stylist. She has been in 0:01:14.705 --> 0:01:17.985 the fashion industry for decades, and she is honest. She's 0:01:18.025 --> 0:01:20.385 the type of person we need, so she's gonna teach 0:01:20.465 --> 0:01:23.985 us how and why to keep the things we keep. Nicole, 0:01:24.305 --> 0:01:28.065 welcome back. I feel like you were the only expert 0:01:28.065 --> 0:01:32.705 for this episode because you can be direct and ruthless. 0:01:33.065 --> 0:01:33.705 Yes, I can. 0:01:33.865 --> 0:01:35.905 I'm sort of having you come to all of our 0:01:35.945 --> 0:01:38.665 wardrobes and actually do the cleanup. We're gonna talk to 0:01:38.745 --> 0:01:43.585 you about clearing out our wardrobes. Where should someone start? 0:01:43.745 --> 0:01:46.105 Do you have a method that you recommend. 0:01:45.665 --> 0:01:49.625 I do sometimes when I have private clients. 0:01:49.905 --> 0:01:51.705 So do you do this for private clients? Yeap, Oh 0:01:51.745 --> 0:01:54.105 good to know. Yeah, it's not my favorite thing to do, though. 0:01:54.185 --> 0:01:56.025 It's the thing I don't like doing for myself. No, 0:01:56.105 --> 0:01:58.545 of totally. But don't you think it's easier for others 0:01:58.585 --> 0:02:03.025 because there's no sentimental Yeah, you're just down the line. 0:02:03.105 --> 0:02:04.625 I make you allergic to DustMite? 0:02:04.945 --> 0:02:06.465 Oh god, don't come to my house. 0:02:06.505 --> 0:02:09.825 Then closer to been like shoved in a couvered for 0:02:09.945 --> 0:02:12.065 years years is just full of it. Yeah, and I 0:02:12.185 --> 0:02:14.705 just spend the entire time sneezing and apologizing and blowing 0:02:14.705 --> 0:02:15.065 my eyes. 0:02:15.905 --> 0:02:17.985 Maybe they need to do a pre dust, So what's 0:02:18.025 --> 0:02:20.425 your method? Does it vary from client to client depending 0:02:20.465 --> 0:02:21.945 on their lifestyle, what they've got. 0:02:22.145 --> 0:02:25.425 Well, sometimes, just to make my life a bit easier, 0:02:26.385 --> 0:02:29.745 I'll say, why don't you do a little preliminary coal, okay? 0:02:29.825 --> 0:02:31.665 And if they've got no interest in that, then you know. 0:02:31.865 --> 0:02:34.425 And it depends how much a hoarder they are or not. 0:02:34.785 --> 0:02:36.905 And also how big their wardrobe is. Because I'm lucky 0:02:36.985 --> 0:02:39.505 my relatively new word rabbits about a year old is big. 0:02:39.665 --> 0:02:41.185 But the problem me is so I don't clear it 0:02:41.225 --> 0:02:43.545 out till it's bursting. But that's just way too want 0:02:43.545 --> 0:02:46.345 to close one person, Yeah, it really is. The methods. 0:02:46.385 --> 0:02:48.505 Say you're coming to my house, I need help. I 0:02:48.545 --> 0:02:50.865 don't know what to keep, what to get rid of? 0:02:51.105 --> 0:02:52.745 Are we doing piles? What are we doing? 0:02:53.105 --> 0:02:57.065 So sometimes I bring a spare rack, which not everybody has, 0:02:57.225 --> 0:02:59.825 and maybe it's just you know, the floor in the 0:02:59.825 --> 0:03:00.225 whole way. 0:03:00.225 --> 0:03:01.025 I don't know, yep. 0:03:01.185 --> 0:03:03.065 But I get them to show me what it is 0:03:03.105 --> 0:03:05.425 that they wear on the regular so it's their go 0:03:05.505 --> 0:03:06.065 to pieces. 0:03:06.185 --> 0:03:08.665 So our theory about the ten percent ninety percent the 0:03:08.665 --> 0:03:10.785 stuff they wear scent of the time pretty much. 0:03:11.185 --> 0:03:12.985 So I get them to pull those things out and 0:03:13.025 --> 0:03:14.665 then we start going through it. 0:03:15.225 --> 0:03:16.345 Icem buy, icem. 0:03:16.505 --> 0:03:16.745 Wow. 0:03:17.065 --> 0:03:19.265 Sometimes I'll start and I'll just go, let's put all 0:03:19.305 --> 0:03:21.265 your pants together, let's put all your jackets together, let's 0:03:21.265 --> 0:03:22.185 put all your dresses. 0:03:21.945 --> 0:03:23.745 Together, because it might be a real mess, might at 0:03:23.825 --> 0:03:24.945 least in categories. Yeah. 0:03:25.025 --> 0:03:28.105 No, sometimes they're just you know, everything, everything everywhere. 0:03:28.185 --> 0:03:28.385 Wow. 0:03:28.585 --> 0:03:30.865 And then I'll just go through and I can be 0:03:30.985 --> 0:03:33.825 ruthless and for a startup, it's when was the last 0:03:33.825 --> 0:03:34.545 time you wore this? 0:03:35.025 --> 0:03:37.665 So do you ask questions that they've thought or do 0:03:37.665 --> 0:03:38.905 you just look and go, oh, hideous? 0:03:38.945 --> 0:03:40.065 Because sometimes I do that. 0:03:40.225 --> 0:03:43.145 Oh I did wonder because I think, like I said, 0:03:43.185 --> 0:03:45.665 we can't all have you there. But sometimes I need 0:03:45.705 --> 0:03:48.425 someone to go, look, why did you buy that? When 0:03:48.425 --> 0:03:50.425 did you buy that? Or where do you think you're 0:03:50.465 --> 0:03:51.145 ever going to wear that? 0:03:51.625 --> 0:03:53.585 Yeah, I mean they're good questions to ask, but i'd 0:03:53.705 --> 0:03:55.665 just more so I look at it and I go, well, 0:03:55.745 --> 0:03:56.385 is it all pill? 0:03:56.505 --> 0:03:58.745 Does it have holes in it? I mean that's that's 0:03:58.825 --> 0:04:00.145 round one basically. 0:04:00.385 --> 0:04:02.865 So round one is the things that I just awful, 0:04:03.505 --> 0:04:07.105 not because of anything, but just they're too wornly. It's 0:04:07.145 --> 0:04:09.585 just done, they're tired, and then round two will be 0:04:10.225 --> 0:04:12.225 how likely are you to ever wear this again? When 0:04:12.265 --> 0:04:13.265 was the last time you wore it? 0:04:13.825 --> 0:04:15.945 What does your life look like now that's different to 0:04:15.985 --> 0:04:17.025 how your life was when. 0:04:16.905 --> 0:04:17.825 You bought that things? 0:04:17.865 --> 0:04:20.105 Because lifestyle is so important, isn't it. If you're not 0:04:20.145 --> 0:04:21.665 going to lots of balls? Why if you've got fifty 0:04:21.665 --> 0:04:22.105 ball gowns? 0:04:22.185 --> 0:04:25.825 Yeah, exactly, And if they've sized up or down, I 0:04:25.865 --> 0:04:27.985 mean so many people, I'm going to keep that until 0:04:28.025 --> 0:04:28.625 I can fit it. 0:04:28.745 --> 0:04:30.745 Well, chances are you're not going to fit it. 0:04:30.785 --> 0:04:32.825 So speaking on size and whether things fit or not, 0:04:32.865 --> 0:04:36.905 are we trying things on? Not unless they're slightly redeemable. Okay, 0:04:36.945 --> 0:04:38.945 I can sort of tell if they're really it's not 0:04:39.025 --> 0:04:39.905 worth it. Yeah. 0:04:40.025 --> 0:04:41.945 If they go, oh, I don't know, I don't really 0:04:41.945 --> 0:04:43.385 want to part with that. I gotta show me what 0:04:43.425 --> 0:04:43.905 they look like. 0:04:44.145 --> 0:04:47.425 Okay, scary? Can I tell you my method that is 0:04:47.505 --> 0:04:50.025 definitely not perfect, but I want to get your thoughts 0:04:50.065 --> 0:04:52.985 on it. Firstly, I've done this more than once and 0:04:53.025 --> 0:04:54.665 I'm never going to do it again. Do not pull 0:04:54.745 --> 0:04:57.145 everything out at once unless you do have someone that 0:04:57.185 --> 0:04:59.505 to keep you accountable that you're paying but I've pulled 0:04:59.545 --> 0:05:02.225 everything out and they've lost all steam and I've just 0:05:02.305 --> 0:05:02.985 left it all on the bed. 0:05:03.185 --> 0:05:03.745 Don't do that. 0:05:03.825 --> 0:05:05.705 So what works best for me? Because I do have 0:05:05.745 --> 0:05:07.745 a lot of clothes, I'll admit, and I do have ADHD, 0:05:07.865 --> 0:05:11.345 So I lose interest in a project halfway through. I 0:05:11.385 --> 0:05:13.705 try and do maybe the Blazers one week, Oh, I 0:05:13.745 --> 0:05:16.385 don't know dresses. Just cut it up into sections because 0:05:16.425 --> 0:05:18.625 I also get decision fatigue and then I'm like, oh, 0:05:18.665 --> 0:05:21.625 I'm confused, and then that lee that I'm being that 0:05:21.785 --> 0:05:24.305 day might not want that dress, but I feel different. 0:05:24.465 --> 0:05:25.745 So do you think it's the hay to do it 0:05:25.745 --> 0:05:26.505 over stages? 0:05:26.585 --> 0:05:27.265 Yeah? Definitely. 0:05:27.305 --> 0:05:29.545 I mean it's always better if you chunk a task, 0:05:29.865 --> 0:05:31.745 but then if you've got someone like me there, then 0:05:31.785 --> 0:05:33.585 you have to do it all in one go. 0:05:33.865 --> 0:05:35.945 Yeah, but that's you've got a cheerleader. They're keeping you 0:05:35.985 --> 0:05:38.025 on track. Whereas I end up walking downstairs at the 0:05:38.025 --> 0:05:40.825 Crown On I've got a sequence bag and I was 0:05:40.865 --> 0:05:44.025 cleaning out my wardrobe. Then I use washing baskets as 0:05:44.025 --> 0:05:44.545 my piles. 0:05:44.865 --> 0:05:46.225 How many washing baskets do you have? 0:05:46.305 --> 0:05:49.985 So many? I don't know. I've got like fifteen. How 0:05:50.025 --> 0:05:53.905 many Internet what should I have one? What the plastic 0:05:53.905 --> 0:05:55.825 one that you walk to the washing machine with? 0:05:55.985 --> 0:05:57.305 Yes, why do you have fifteen? 0:05:57.865 --> 0:06:01.985 I don't know, that's so weird one. How many people 0:06:01.985 --> 0:06:03.905 I've got? Well, I've got a husband and child. I've 0:06:03.905 --> 0:06:05.945 got really great ones from Amason and they collapsible flat, 0:06:05.985 --> 0:06:08.385 so they one slides under my bed, one sides under 0:06:08.425 --> 0:06:10.625 the kid's bed, and so when it's time to end, 0:06:10.745 --> 0:06:13.625 do the washing basket. Well, this is obviously my problem volume. 0:06:14.425 --> 0:06:18.185 These are my piles keep obviously, and that usually just 0:06:18.265 --> 0:06:19.705 kind of stays in the water. But I won't pull 0:06:19.745 --> 0:06:22.145 it out donate, So that's you know, you're going to 0:06:22.225 --> 0:06:25.385 your Vini's or whatever my celf. So it's like I've 0:06:25.425 --> 0:06:27.185 treated myself to a beautiful scale in the feed or 0:06:27.185 --> 0:06:29.065 something a few years ago. Probably won't wear it again, 0:06:29.105 --> 0:06:30.265 but I don't want to donate it. I want to 0:06:30.305 --> 0:06:31.305 try and get a bit of money back. 0:06:32.265 --> 0:06:32.505 Yep. 0:06:33.105 --> 0:06:36.625 I have a maybe pile. And that's when I just 0:06:37.025 --> 0:06:39.985 can't decide. It might be sentimental, it might be that 0:06:40.025 --> 0:06:41.265 it might not be in the right mood to make 0:06:41.265 --> 0:06:43.425 a decision. And then I have a try on like, 0:06:43.585 --> 0:06:46.865 oh those genes, am I making it too hard for myself. 0:06:46.865 --> 0:06:47.385 Do you reckon? No? 0:06:47.425 --> 0:06:48.585 I think that's pretty good approach. 0:06:48.665 --> 0:06:51.665 Sometimes I'd say to people if they have a maybe 0:06:51.785 --> 0:06:54.345 pile and they really can't decide, I suggest if they've 0:06:54.345 --> 0:06:56.185 got a bit of room and a spare cupboards, yeah, 0:06:56.305 --> 0:06:59.705 put those things in there, and then see in reality, 0:06:59.745 --> 0:07:01.505 how many times do they go to that cupboard they 0:07:01.505 --> 0:07:03.665 have a period of X number of months. 0:07:03.425 --> 0:07:06.025 And if they've totally forgotten, yeah, like maybe put in 0:07:06.065 --> 0:07:08.145 your diary in three months check maybe cupboard. You're like, Oh, 0:07:08.145 --> 0:07:10.225 I forgot about those things clearly and want them. 0:07:10.345 --> 0:07:11.065 Yeah exactly. 0:07:11.185 --> 0:07:13.825 I mean I've got literally more than half my wardrobes 0:07:13.825 --> 0:07:16.505 currently in storage and I've forgotten all of it. 0:07:16.625 --> 0:07:18.705 Oh but how exciting when you get to go back 0:07:18.705 --> 0:07:19.465 and play. 0:07:19.785 --> 0:07:21.505 Maybe I've got don't have enough cupet space? 0:07:21.705 --> 0:07:23.825 Oh no, I know. Well that storage is so much 0:07:23.865 --> 0:07:26.065 of this, isn't it? Because it really is dependent on storage. 0:07:26.145 --> 0:07:28.705 So key signs that a piece of clothing should be 0:07:28.705 --> 0:07:32.305 moved on, like you said, holes bold, just it's over 0:07:32.425 --> 0:07:36.265 lost in shape yep, not fitting too small, not fitting 0:07:36.265 --> 0:07:39.625 too big. How likely are your clients to tailor something? 0:07:40.025 --> 0:07:42.105 I mean I've got a pile of oh tailor it's 0:07:42.105 --> 0:07:43.425 worth tailoring, for sure. 0:07:43.865 --> 0:07:45.345 It's a really beautiful quality thing. 0:07:45.665 --> 0:07:48.145 Yes, that just needed to be fitted and it just 0:07:48.185 --> 0:07:50.785 needed someone to go put these in your car now 0:07:50.905 --> 0:07:52.025 and take them to the tailor. 0:07:52.225 --> 0:07:54.385 Yes, And that's what you do because the thing is 0:07:54.425 --> 0:07:56.505 for me. Like there's certain items that I love Shambra shirts. 0:07:56.505 --> 0:07:58.985 I probably got fifteen, but there's three that I love. 0:07:59.305 --> 0:08:01.305 Some are too big, some are too small. So it's 0:08:01.385 --> 0:08:04.305 just letting go. It's just keeping the three. Yeah, stop 0:08:04.385 --> 0:08:07.025 trying to bind the perfect Chambra shirt. Choose your favorite 0:08:07.065 --> 0:08:08.545 and get rid of the ones because I'm never going 0:08:08.545 --> 0:08:09.785 to reach for those other ones. 0:08:09.945 --> 0:08:10.465 No you're not. 0:08:10.625 --> 0:08:12.825 I mean that's really silly, Like you're never gonna wear 0:08:13.065 --> 0:08:16.745 that's two weeks and a bit of Chambre shirts staff today, 0:08:16.785 --> 0:08:16.985 I know. 0:08:17.065 --> 0:08:19.225 But it's like one of my key stamles. Okay. So 0:08:19.345 --> 0:08:22.465 if you do have multiples of an item, yes, I mean, 0:08:22.585 --> 0:08:24.785 say you're quite a corporate office work, you might have 0:08:24.865 --> 0:08:27.105 more black pants than the average person. But I reckon 0:08:27.225 --> 0:08:29.505 there's probably some in there that when you go to 0:08:29.545 --> 0:08:31.545 pick your black pants, you're not reaching for a couple 0:08:31.545 --> 0:08:33.345 of those peers because they're not your favorites. 0:08:33.505 --> 0:08:34.225 That's true. 0:08:34.545 --> 0:08:38.225 So do you you know, do you think quantity is 0:08:38.265 --> 0:08:40.945 a problem with some clients or not enough of something, 0:08:41.065 --> 0:08:43.225 not in a variety, too many sombre shirts, not enough, 0:08:43.345 --> 0:08:44.785 too many different shirt fifteen. 0:08:44.825 --> 0:08:47.225 It's definitely too many shonpre shirts because. 0:08:46.905 --> 0:08:49.185 For me, I know when I definitely don't want something, 0:08:49.225 --> 0:08:51.265 and I know when I definitely do want to keep something. 0:08:51.305 --> 0:08:53.825 But it's the stuff in between that's like, oh that 0:08:53.985 --> 0:08:56.505 is quite a nice shirt. Yeah, I will wear that. 0:08:56.585 --> 0:08:58.385 Do you compare it back to what else is in 0:08:58.425 --> 0:08:59.065 your wardrobe? 0:08:59.185 --> 0:09:01.625 I think there are things that are worth having multiples of, 0:09:01.825 --> 0:09:04.105 like a pair of black pants, for example. I mean 0:09:04.105 --> 0:09:06.665 I've got high waisted black pants with pleats, black pants 0:09:06.745 --> 0:09:09.625 not with pleats, wide legged black plants, capri black pants. Yes, 0:09:09.825 --> 0:09:12.225 and they all have a purpose and I think it's 0:09:12.265 --> 0:09:13.105 worth hanging on to them. 0:09:13.145 --> 0:09:16.025 And do you wear them relatively frequently or the cell 0:09:16.145 --> 0:09:16.785 great condition? 0:09:17.145 --> 0:09:20.025 I wear them relatively frequently. Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean 0:09:20.025 --> 0:09:22.505 that's probably the only thing. 0:09:22.625 --> 0:09:25.905 Oh white shirts, Yeah, you know, so whatever your staple is, 0:09:25.905 --> 0:09:27.345 I mean you're wearing black pants and a white shirt. 0:09:27.665 --> 0:09:29.385 That works out maybe for me. 0:09:29.465 --> 0:09:32.425 My staples up jeans, shambra shirts, T shirt, so I 0:09:32.465 --> 0:09:34.625 do have more than I guess the average person, but 0:09:34.665 --> 0:09:35.905 I do wear them a fab Yeah. 0:09:35.945 --> 0:09:37.705 Okay, but I knew you wouldn't havever wear. 0:09:37.585 --> 0:09:39.825 Fifty No, because I reach for my top three. Yeah, 0:09:39.945 --> 0:09:41.945 you get rotation. Yeah, so get rid of the other. 0:09:42.025 --> 0:09:46.105 Why don't you put the maths here? Twelve in your 0:09:46.225 --> 0:09:49.425 spare cuppets. Okay, and see how you go back to it. 0:09:49.625 --> 0:10:01.505 This is how see what happens items that we haven't 0:10:01.545 --> 0:10:03.185 worn for a while. Do you have a hard and 0:10:03.225 --> 0:10:05.225 fast rule, you know how some people are like twelve 0:10:05.265 --> 0:10:08.505 months or turn the hangar? I mean it does it 0:10:08.585 --> 0:10:10.785 depend on the item? Because times we've got pretty dresses, 0:10:10.785 --> 0:10:12.225 but we haven't got a wedding to go to. 0:10:12.465 --> 0:10:14.585 Yeah. Look, I feel like, you know, I've. 0:10:14.385 --> 0:10:18.185 Got a couple of really beautiful black tie dresses that wow, 0:10:18.385 --> 0:10:20.425 be like if I wear them once a year. But 0:10:20.465 --> 0:10:23.465 they're beautiful, I don't know, and they make you happy, 0:10:23.505 --> 0:10:24.865 But you just put them in the back corner of 0:10:24.865 --> 0:10:25.865 your cupboard, you. 0:10:25.785 --> 0:10:27.425 Know, they're not front. 0:10:27.745 --> 0:10:29.545 Yeah, the things that you wear every single day need 0:10:29.585 --> 0:10:32.065 to be in that spot where you can open it easily. 0:10:32.145 --> 0:10:36.145 And actually, just as another chip to the people out there, 0:10:36.825 --> 0:10:39.465 I'm currently renovating. Certainly, I'm not going to get more 0:10:39.465 --> 0:10:40.705 cupboard space. 0:10:40.865 --> 0:10:42.265 It's very upset design. 0:10:42.665 --> 0:10:45.785 I know it's just a no budget and be no room. 0:10:46.185 --> 0:10:48.665 But I'm staying with a friend and she has sliding 0:10:48.705 --> 0:10:49.585 door wardrobes. 0:10:50.225 --> 0:10:52.985 They are hell, They're not good, They're terrible. I mean 0:10:52.985 --> 0:10:55.105 they're good for if you you know the bed's right there, 0:10:55.145 --> 0:10:58.545 and you can't. Of course, maybe a third of. 0:10:58.465 --> 0:11:00.705 Your stuff you can't see anything like I do the 0:11:00.705 --> 0:11:03.265 whole open the doors and go, oh, there's that pair 0:11:03.305 --> 0:11:05.985 of mauve pants that look with great with that pink 0:11:06.025 --> 0:11:07.865 shirt over there, because you won't wear it if you 0:11:07.905 --> 0:11:08.505 can't see it. 0:11:08.585 --> 0:11:11.265 Correct. Your brain also doesn't know, but that's right. Finally, 0:11:11.305 --> 0:11:13.305 before we started recording, I said to you, I love 0:11:13.345 --> 0:11:14.985 those pants. I think I've got those pants, and we 0:11:14.985 --> 0:11:17.345 worked out we both have those pants. There's somewhere in 0:11:17.385 --> 0:11:20.065 the abyss for good. I had them, love them and 0:11:20.265 --> 0:11:22.185 almost would have bought similar. 0:11:22.385 --> 0:11:24.345 Yeah, but don't you have all your pants in one 0:11:24.345 --> 0:11:25.105 spot in your wood? 0:11:25.225 --> 0:11:27.865 Yes? I do, but there's just like a chunk of 0:11:27.985 --> 0:11:31.145 black and I just again need to do a clean out. 0:11:31.145 --> 0:11:32.785 That's what you're here for, to help all of us. 0:11:32.865 --> 0:11:34.105 You might have a lot of clothes. You might not 0:11:34.145 --> 0:11:36.145 have a lot of clothes, but if you're not wearing them, 0:11:36.625 --> 0:11:39.305 it's time for clean out anyway, regardless of volume, at 0:11:39.425 --> 0:11:43.105 least inspecting why or making a conscious decisions should it 0:11:43.145 --> 0:11:44.905 stay there for good reason or is it just taking 0:11:44.985 --> 0:11:47.745 up space? Yeah? And the liberation afterwards, that's something to 0:11:47.785 --> 0:11:53.105 look forward to, Okay, liberation, that's my goal. Sentimental pieces, Look, 0:11:53.825 --> 0:11:55.745 if you're not wearing them, what are you going to 0:11:55.785 --> 0:11:57.665 do with your wedding dress? For example, I sold my 0:11:57.665 --> 0:12:01.625 wedding dress straight away. Fatal not sentimental with clothing other things, 0:12:01.665 --> 0:12:03.665 I am. I've got a beautiful dress of my mum's 0:12:03.665 --> 0:12:04.585 from the seventies. 0:12:04.665 --> 0:12:05.625 Yeah, but that's okay. 0:12:05.865 --> 0:12:08.305 Yeah, And so I guess I allow myself a few 0:12:08.345 --> 0:12:10.345 sentimental items. But I'm like, oh, I wore that T 0:12:10.425 --> 0:12:12.425 shirt on my third date. Was rich, you know, because 0:12:12.465 --> 0:12:16.385 otherwise everything could become Yeah, it's hard, but I think 0:12:16.425 --> 0:12:19.105 you do have to just clench your eyes and yeah 0:12:19.145 --> 0:12:22.185 and put them in and in the pile that goes 0:12:22.225 --> 0:12:25.665 to goodwill or something. You're very timeless. You're all about 0:12:25.745 --> 0:12:28.145 quality and long wear, but some of us are into 0:12:28.265 --> 0:12:30.705 kind of hard and fast trends, What do we do 0:12:30.785 --> 0:12:34.665 with those pieces like hard because those things are much 0:12:34.705 --> 0:12:38.545 easier to part with because they're ship that I mean, 0:12:39.545 --> 0:12:42.785 I mean, if you're buying from Shine or those we're not. 0:12:43.185 --> 0:12:46.345 We're not say you've got you know, it's something that 0:12:46.385 --> 0:12:49.145 you love or loved that was very a few summers 0:12:49.185 --> 0:12:52.225 ago trend in terms of the zion And I always 0:12:52.265 --> 0:12:55.265 see what you're saying over right, yep, got it? What 0:12:55.305 --> 0:12:58.025 if we do, like, if you kind of feel like 0:12:58.905 --> 0:12:59.785 that'll while ago. 0:13:00.825 --> 0:13:03.785 If it's not the thing you donate, I guess it's 0:13:03.785 --> 0:13:05.825 going to be someone who's not up on the trends 0:13:05.905 --> 0:13:06.385 like you are. 0:13:06.505 --> 0:13:09.065 Yeah, that's it. But also do you believe in that 0:13:09.105 --> 0:13:12.425 whole Maricondo thing of bringing you joy? Oh, you brought 0:13:12.425 --> 0:13:14.705 your joy two years ago, but it's done anymore, I know. 0:13:14.785 --> 0:13:16.945 But then you're bringing joy to someone who's really behind 0:13:16.945 --> 0:13:17.225 the time. 0:13:17.305 --> 0:13:19.465 But perhaps that when you can't decide, that's the filter 0:13:19.545 --> 0:13:21.385 you apply because they think there's a very black and 0:13:21.385 --> 0:13:24.625 white filter of yes, love, no, got holes terrible, but 0:13:24.705 --> 0:13:27.145 there's stuff in the middle. You try the joy filter. 0:13:27.305 --> 0:13:28.305 You could definitely try that. 0:13:28.505 --> 0:13:31.545 Yeah, yeah, timeless pieces, So you talked about, you know, 0:13:31.585 --> 0:13:34.025 black pants, white shirts, so meat's jeans and a T shirt. 0:13:34.665 --> 0:13:37.345 Do you always suggest we keep the same ones or 0:13:37.825 --> 0:13:41.185 is it even worth addressing the timeless pieces because shapes change? 0:13:41.225 --> 0:13:44.785 Oh yeah, no, you've got to change your time with pieces. Yes, timeless, 0:13:44.945 --> 0:13:45.705 they're not. 0:13:45.665 --> 0:13:47.705 That timeless, but then it might be every ten years 0:13:47.745 --> 0:13:48.425 like it might be. 0:13:48.625 --> 0:13:51.585 Yes, you know one of those beautiful Maximra coats that's 0:13:51.625 --> 0:13:52.465 just gorgeous. 0:13:53.305 --> 0:13:54.785 It truly is timeless. 0:13:54.825 --> 0:13:55.545 That is pretty time. 0:13:55.585 --> 0:13:57.825 But also, say, let's say skinny leg you know, was 0:13:57.865 --> 0:14:00.185 in for so long now apparently coming back, but we're 0:14:00.185 --> 0:14:02.625 still doing white or straight. If you've got a really 0:14:02.625 --> 0:14:05.265 good quality pair of great skinny legs, you don't have 0:14:05.305 --> 0:14:07.425 to throw them all out. You know, maybe you wore 0:14:07.505 --> 0:14:09.625 a lot and you've got some cheapiees that have stretched. 0:14:09.705 --> 0:14:11.025 We get rid of those. But if you've got your 0:14:11.105 --> 0:14:15.425 beautiful levice, do we keep those? Do you reckon update 0:14:16.305 --> 0:14:17.545 you're going to buy a fresh one? 0:14:17.705 --> 0:14:20.385 Yeah, okay, that's just to take I mean, I'm spending 0:14:20.425 --> 0:14:22.865 a fortune on storage. The amount I'm going to spend 0:14:22.905 --> 0:14:25.825 on storage versus how much it would cost me to 0:14:25.905 --> 0:14:30.265 repurchase something down the track, I'm sure I'm overspending in. 0:14:30.185 --> 0:14:30.985 The storage arena. 0:14:31.105 --> 0:14:33.865 Oh I love storage though. That's such a good point, 0:14:33.905 --> 0:14:36.625 because you're right, if it's coming around every ten or 0:14:36.665 --> 0:14:38.905 fifteen years, you might want to update it anyway. 0:14:39.105 --> 0:14:40.905 Yeah, I think you would, because you're not going to 0:14:40.905 --> 0:14:44.065 be the same shape. Yes, no, I think you would. Yeah, 0:14:44.105 --> 0:14:46.145 if it's a timeless thing. But but I do think 0:14:46.265 --> 0:14:48.825 timeless pieces need to be updated, you know. Yea, if 0:14:48.825 --> 0:14:51.625 it's a blazer, it might be double breasted, not single, 0:14:52.185 --> 0:14:53.985 might more fitted. 0:14:54.105 --> 0:14:56.705 Yeah, okay, that's good. So even though it falls into 0:14:56.705 --> 0:14:59.545 a timeless category of maybe a trench or maybe whatever, 0:14:59.745 --> 0:15:00.945 you still need to analyze it. 0:15:00.985 --> 0:15:01.225 I think. 0:15:01.265 --> 0:15:03.945 So. Oh lord, I've got a lot of work ahead 0:15:03.985 --> 0:15:07.905 of me. How often do you suggest people clean things out, 0:15:08.265 --> 0:15:12.585 like do this? What do you do? Well? About to 0:15:12.625 --> 0:15:15.585 do it again? In ordinary life? Do you move your 0:15:15.625 --> 0:15:16.865 winter two years? Yeah? 0:15:16.985 --> 0:15:17.705 So I always. 0:15:17.745 --> 0:15:20.345 I just again, I've never had enough wardrobe space, so 0:15:20.385 --> 0:15:24.825 I always rotate seasonally and off season. My off season 0:15:24.905 --> 0:15:26.745 is in those bags that suck up. 0:15:26.705 --> 0:15:27.345 The vacuum back. 0:15:27.425 --> 0:15:29.145 Yea, yeah, they're good. 0:15:30.585 --> 0:15:33.105 Or anything. No, because there's no air so there's no moisture. Ever, 0:15:33.345 --> 0:15:35.025 Oh good, I need to do and then they can 0:15:35.065 --> 0:15:38.145 fit in drawers or those big plastic tubs. Yes, things 0:15:38.185 --> 0:15:39.905 like coats. You don't really want to do that too, 0:15:39.945 --> 0:15:44.065 but t shirt shorts, some knits structured, yeah, anything that's 0:15:44.105 --> 0:15:47.105 not structured or tailored really, yes, exactly, Yeah, I do 0:15:47.225 --> 0:15:50.385 that about now I'll get rid of all my winter stuff. Yeah, 0:15:50.545 --> 0:15:53.345 bring the summer stuff before I wash it all though, Okay, 0:15:53.385 --> 0:15:57.065 So wash it all and then store it? Well? Yeah, 0:15:57.225 --> 0:15:58.825 do you put your note you diy to remind you 0:15:58.865 --> 0:16:01.065 where it is or anything or not that person? 0:16:01.545 --> 0:16:01.905 You should? 0:16:02.385 --> 0:16:06.465 You should have a spot for it, not. 0:16:06.385 --> 0:16:07.825 Behind the fridge. 0:16:08.425 --> 0:16:11.985 I swear I had a navy niche and I got 0:16:12.025 --> 0:16:14.465 buy a new one and in the end of next week, fine, 0:16:14.465 --> 0:16:26.385