1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:15,024 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,104 --> 00:00:18,784 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,864 --> 00:00:26,824 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to 4 00:00:26,824 --> 00:00:30,304 Speaker 1: this spill your daily pop culture Fixed. I'm Laura Brodney. 5 00:00:29,984 --> 00:00:31,104 Speaker 2: And I'm m Burnham. 6 00:00:31,264 --> 00:00:33,344 Speaker 1: I think we still have that prantic energy of being 7 00:00:33,424 --> 00:00:35,624 Speaker 1: back from holidays because I was like, yes, I'm sick 8 00:00:35,624 --> 00:00:37,344 Speaker 1: of like hanging out with my family. Love you guys. 9 00:00:37,344 --> 00:00:39,304 Speaker 1: They don't listen, It's fine, and all I want to 10 00:00:39,344 --> 00:00:41,864 Speaker 1: do is talk about all big entertainment pop culture news 11 00:00:41,864 --> 00:00:45,264 Speaker 1: because it was a while we very eventful holiday season 12 00:00:45,304 --> 00:00:46,304 Speaker 1: with celeb's doing a lot. 13 00:00:46,464 --> 00:00:50,184 Speaker 2: Almost too much happened, too much, too much, Whereas like 14 00:00:50,624 --> 00:00:53,224 Speaker 2: I remember every single thing that happened. I was like, 15 00:00:53,224 --> 00:00:54,624 Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk about this on the pod, 16 00:00:54,704 --> 00:00:56,144 Speaker 2: and then something else happened. I was like, I can't 17 00:00:56,144 --> 00:00:57,624 Speaker 2: wait to talk about this, and then's something else happened. 18 00:00:57,624 --> 00:00:58,784 Speaker 1: I was like, I love that you were thinking about 19 00:00:58,784 --> 00:00:59,464 Speaker 1: me or holidays. 20 00:00:59,464 --> 00:01:01,904 Speaker 2: It's so hard not to like wes back every day together, 21 00:01:02,224 --> 00:01:03,224 Speaker 2: and then we suddenly didn't. 22 00:01:03,344 --> 00:01:05,944 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like a brutal shock for both of us. Well, 23 00:01:05,944 --> 00:01:08,104 Speaker 1: coming up on the show today, we have two stories 24 00:01:08,304 --> 00:01:10,304 Speaker 1: that are very quickly escalating and have a lot of 25 00:01:10,424 --> 00:01:12,784 Speaker 1: new information. One of them is less dramatic. We have 26 00:01:12,864 --> 00:01:15,264 Speaker 1: to talk about Megan Michael's new Netflix show. There has 27 00:01:15,344 --> 00:01:17,344 Speaker 1: been some wild new allegation store and at Her that 28 00:01:17,384 --> 00:01:19,784 Speaker 1: we have to talk about. And also there have been 29 00:01:19,824 --> 00:01:23,664 Speaker 1: some very significant updates to the lawsuit against Sean Combe. 30 00:01:23,784 --> 00:01:27,064 Speaker 1: Some really disturbing new allegations have come through, and we're 31 00:01:27,064 --> 00:01:28,704 Speaker 1: going to talk about that. But first, can you give 32 00:01:28,744 --> 00:01:30,824 Speaker 1: me something light so I can prepare for that conversation. 33 00:01:31,104 --> 00:01:34,624 Speaker 2: Yes, First, I wanted to talk about something that has 34 00:01:34,904 --> 00:01:37,704 Speaker 2: deeply affected my life, and it is a TV show 35 00:01:37,864 --> 00:01:40,144 Speaker 2: called The Sex Lives of College Girls. 36 00:01:40,184 --> 00:01:41,944 Speaker 1: That's one of your favorite shows, right, one. 37 00:01:41,824 --> 00:01:45,504 Speaker 2: Of my favorite shows, mainly because it was created by 38 00:01:45,664 --> 00:01:46,344 Speaker 2: Mindy Kaling. 39 00:01:46,664 --> 00:01:48,504 Speaker 1: I love we in one week where we don't talk 40 00:01:48,504 --> 00:01:50,824 Speaker 1: about Mindy Kayling, who we both. 41 00:01:50,664 --> 00:01:54,904 Speaker 2: Love, and literally everything that she creates I absolutely absorb. 42 00:01:54,984 --> 00:01:57,144 Speaker 2: I think both of us do. And this show has 43 00:01:57,144 --> 00:02:00,104 Speaker 2: been out for a while. So what's happening right now 44 00:02:00,184 --> 00:02:02,824 Speaker 2: is that season three is happening of Sex Lives of 45 00:02:02,824 --> 00:02:07,584 Speaker 2: College Girls. It has been very very successful up until here. 46 00:02:08,104 --> 00:02:11,304 Speaker 2: Everyone is talking about it. It was so the characters 47 00:02:11,304 --> 00:02:13,624 Speaker 2: were amazing, they had so much depth. I know we 48 00:02:13,664 --> 00:02:18,064 Speaker 2: don't really talk about like rotten tomatoes reviews or like percentages, 49 00:02:18,224 --> 00:02:20,384 Speaker 2: but I thought it was really important to bring it 50 00:02:20,464 --> 00:02:22,584 Speaker 2: up into this because there has been a lot of 51 00:02:22,624 --> 00:02:26,704 Speaker 2: backlash from this particular season that's happening right now. So 52 00:02:26,864 --> 00:02:29,624 Speaker 2: for season one of this show, it had an audience 53 00:02:29,624 --> 00:02:32,664 Speaker 2: score of seventy seven percent, for season two it was 54 00:02:32,664 --> 00:02:35,944 Speaker 2: seventy three percent, and for this season, season three, it's 55 00:02:36,024 --> 00:02:39,624 Speaker 2: dropped down to thirty three percent. So a lot has happened. 56 00:02:39,664 --> 00:02:42,024 Speaker 2: There's a lot of reasons why. One of the biggest 57 00:02:42,024 --> 00:02:44,864 Speaker 2: catalysts for this drop was one of the stars of 58 00:02:44,904 --> 00:02:46,944 Speaker 2: the show, who I will say is I guess the 59 00:02:46,984 --> 00:02:50,424 Speaker 2: most famous person on the show, Renee Rap. She was 60 00:02:50,464 --> 00:02:53,824 Speaker 2: one of the four lead cast members. She played Layton, 61 00:02:54,504 --> 00:02:57,664 Speaker 2: and a year ago she put out a very interesting 62 00:02:57,744 --> 00:03:01,784 Speaker 2: Instagram story saying how she's stepping away from sex lives 63 00:03:01,784 --> 00:03:03,984 Speaker 2: of college girls. Around that same time, she did an 64 00:03:04,064 --> 00:03:06,864 Speaker 2: interview with Alex on Call Her Daddy saying that is 65 00:03:07,264 --> 00:03:09,904 Speaker 2: her first year of filming that show was the worst 66 00:03:10,344 --> 00:03:13,184 Speaker 2: experience of her life essentially, and not because of the 67 00:03:13,184 --> 00:03:13,824 Speaker 2: girls on the show. 68 00:03:13,904 --> 00:03:16,224 Speaker 1: Right, because of all the external backlash she was getting 69 00:03:16,264 --> 00:03:18,544 Speaker 1: for her body and just her overroll mental health. 70 00:03:18,624 --> 00:03:21,144 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And I think because people grabbed on that, 71 00:03:21,384 --> 00:03:23,464 Speaker 2: it got a bit convoluted and people just assumed that 72 00:03:23,504 --> 00:03:25,384 Speaker 2: it was because of the show and she was treated, 73 00:03:25,384 --> 00:03:28,504 Speaker 2: which absolutely wasn't true. So she put that statement out. 74 00:03:28,624 --> 00:03:31,984 Speaker 2: Then sexualize of college girls was like, this wasn't really discussed. 75 00:03:31,984 --> 00:03:33,584 Speaker 2: So now they had to kind of like write her 76 00:03:33,584 --> 00:03:37,344 Speaker 2: out of the show, which happened earlier on in the season. 77 00:03:37,384 --> 00:03:39,944 Speaker 2: I think around the second episode. It wasn't like a 78 00:03:39,944 --> 00:03:42,344 Speaker 2: big goodbye that a lot of shows do, even though 79 00:03:42,384 --> 00:03:44,224 Speaker 2: she's the main character. It was more just like, oh, 80 00:03:44,264 --> 00:03:47,264 Speaker 2: she's going away to a new school. She was replaced 81 00:03:47,304 --> 00:03:50,864 Speaker 2: by two other women, Mia Rogers Taylor, who I think 82 00:03:51,104 --> 00:03:55,304 Speaker 2: encapsulates the essence of what Renee Rap's character was, like, 83 00:03:55,344 --> 00:03:59,184 Speaker 2: she's blonde, she's beautiful, she's sassy, she's queer, as well 84 00:03:59,224 --> 00:04:03,424 Speaker 2: as Gracie Lawrence who plays Casey. She's replaced Leyton as 85 00:04:03,464 --> 00:04:05,984 Speaker 2: like I guess a physicality, like she's the new roommate 86 00:04:06,104 --> 00:04:09,624 Speaker 2: in the situation. So because all of this happened a 87 00:04:09,704 --> 00:04:12,464 Speaker 2: year before this season was released, people were already like 88 00:04:12,504 --> 00:04:14,704 Speaker 2: switched off. They were like, Lady's my fairy character. She's 89 00:04:14,704 --> 00:04:17,224 Speaker 2: the main one, she's the most famous one. Everyone loved 90 00:04:17,224 --> 00:04:19,704 Speaker 2: her from Mean Girls. A lot of people didn't switch 91 00:04:19,744 --> 00:04:22,864 Speaker 2: on this show, and then at the same time they 92 00:04:22,864 --> 00:04:25,664 Speaker 2: were all like, it's so weird how she was replaced 93 00:04:25,704 --> 00:04:28,944 Speaker 2: with no explanation, like she wasn't ridden off properly. At 94 00:04:28,984 --> 00:04:32,224 Speaker 2: the same time, people also critiquing the actual show with 95 00:04:32,424 --> 00:04:36,824 Speaker 2: not even including her, and I am one of those critiques. 96 00:04:36,904 --> 00:04:40,504 Speaker 2: A lot of this season seems very surface level. I 97 00:04:40,544 --> 00:04:45,104 Speaker 2: feel like previous seasons we got really in depth with characters. 98 00:04:44,904 --> 00:04:48,464 Speaker 2: That's a lot was talked about, like race, like class, 99 00:04:48,584 --> 00:04:51,144 Speaker 2: everything was kind of mentioned in such a way that 100 00:04:51,664 --> 00:04:54,664 Speaker 2: I think made young people kind of understand and want 101 00:04:54,904 --> 00:04:57,264 Speaker 2: to dream, I guess better for their future, Like these 102 00:04:57,304 --> 00:05:00,504 Speaker 2: girls really were the catalysts of what your future could 103 00:05:00,544 --> 00:05:03,224 Speaker 2: be as a woman who's like in her mid twenties 104 00:05:03,264 --> 00:05:06,384 Speaker 2: and learning about sex and relationships and life in general 105 00:05:06,424 --> 00:05:09,224 Speaker 2: for the first time. And some of the filming in 106 00:05:09,264 --> 00:05:11,864 Speaker 2: this season was quite questionable where I was watching it, 107 00:05:12,344 --> 00:05:14,304 Speaker 2: and a lot of the time where a main character 108 00:05:14,344 --> 00:05:18,584 Speaker 2: was giving dialogue, their face wasn't actually been shown. Oh really, 109 00:05:18,664 --> 00:05:20,304 Speaker 2: you would see kind of the back of the head, 110 00:05:20,384 --> 00:05:21,944 Speaker 2: and then you would look a bit closer and you 111 00:05:22,024 --> 00:05:24,824 Speaker 2: realize that that's not actually them who's standing in. They 112 00:05:24,864 --> 00:05:26,864 Speaker 2: have someone else standing in. So I think a lot 113 00:05:26,904 --> 00:05:28,864 Speaker 2: of the scenes were filmed, they weren't actually filmed with 114 00:05:28,904 --> 00:05:32,264 Speaker 2: all the characters, with all the cast together, or they 115 00:05:32,304 --> 00:05:34,864 Speaker 2: would have like filmed that and then changed the lines 116 00:05:34,904 --> 00:05:37,344 Speaker 2: and the dialogue after that. And I thought that was 117 00:05:37,384 --> 00:05:39,864 Speaker 2: just something weird that was happening. But then I saw 118 00:05:39,904 --> 00:05:41,864 Speaker 2: it online as well, so a lot of people were 119 00:05:41,864 --> 00:05:45,224 Speaker 2: seeing that. That plus all the latent drama, it just 120 00:05:45,264 --> 00:05:49,184 Speaker 2: went absolutely viral on mainly ex Twitter and read it 121 00:05:49,224 --> 00:05:53,224 Speaker 2: where people are so disappointed in this show, and I 122 00:05:53,264 --> 00:05:55,424 Speaker 2: think these are all the reasons on why we got 123 00:05:55,424 --> 00:05:58,664 Speaker 2: the thirty three percent audience approval rating. I wanted to 124 00:05:58,664 --> 00:06:01,064 Speaker 2: read out some of the commentary because a lot of 125 00:06:01,064 --> 00:06:04,224 Speaker 2: it is about Renee rap leaving, but there is like 126 00:06:04,264 --> 00:06:07,264 Speaker 2: a handful that just is about the season three in general. 127 00:06:08,024 --> 00:06:10,664 Speaker 2: One of them said, what happened to all the smart 128 00:06:10,744 --> 00:06:13,944 Speaker 2: commentary about class and privilege from earlier seasons? Now it's 129 00:06:13,944 --> 00:06:17,184 Speaker 2: just hookups and relationship drama, which the show is called 130 00:06:17,224 --> 00:06:19,624 Speaker 2: sex lives or college yeh, in the title, but I 131 00:06:19,744 --> 00:06:21,544 Speaker 2: kind of agree. And then this one I thought was 132 00:06:21,584 --> 00:06:24,744 Speaker 2: really interesting. The Sex Lives of College Girls without Layton 133 00:06:24,944 --> 00:06:27,464 Speaker 2: is like Gray's Anatomy without Christina Yang. 134 00:06:27,744 --> 00:06:30,104 Speaker 1: It's interesting they bring up Christina Yang because there are 135 00:06:30,184 --> 00:06:33,864 Speaker 1: so many shows where really beloved or lead characters have 136 00:06:33,984 --> 00:06:36,624 Speaker 1: left and they have carried on, Like, yes, Christina Yang 137 00:06:36,704 --> 00:06:38,904 Speaker 1: from Gray's Anatomy is a big loss, but I would 138 00:06:38,984 --> 00:06:40,944 Speaker 1: argue that show has been able to like it's never 139 00:06:40,944 --> 00:06:42,424 Speaker 1: going to be what it is, but it's been running for, 140 00:06:42,504 --> 00:06:45,104 Speaker 1: you know, over two decades now, so it's you know, 141 00:06:45,144 --> 00:06:47,544 Speaker 1: going to have ebbs and flows, and I think the 142 00:06:47,584 --> 00:06:49,944 Speaker 1: only time you can really replace a character and the 143 00:06:49,984 --> 00:06:51,944 Speaker 1: show can move on, and sometimes it can feel like 144 00:06:51,984 --> 00:06:54,624 Speaker 1: a good reset or a refresh. But when it's an 145 00:06:54,704 --> 00:06:57,264 Speaker 1: ensemble cast, which is why I'm surprised because Sex Lives 146 00:06:57,264 --> 00:06:59,984 Speaker 1: of College Girls, like, yes, she's the breakout star, but 147 00:07:00,064 --> 00:07:01,944 Speaker 1: it's an ensemble show, so you should be able to 148 00:07:01,944 --> 00:07:04,224 Speaker 1: bring someone else in. It sounds like the writing and 149 00:07:04,264 --> 00:07:06,064 Speaker 1: production has let it down. 150 00:07:06,144 --> 00:07:08,264 Speaker 2: Because I also had the element of surprise, right like 151 00:07:08,344 --> 00:07:11,944 Speaker 2: Renee Rap announced her departure before they were able to, 152 00:07:12,144 --> 00:07:14,224 Speaker 2: and they kind of like admitted that they didn't actually 153 00:07:14,224 --> 00:07:15,184 Speaker 2: know that was going to happen. 154 00:07:15,304 --> 00:07:17,064 Speaker 1: Yes, but some shows can deal with that. If you 155 00:07:17,104 --> 00:07:20,424 Speaker 1: look back to Charmed, I love this is the first 156 00:07:20,464 --> 00:07:23,104 Speaker 1: time I experienced a beloved character, like a Lee character, 157 00:07:23,184 --> 00:07:23,584 Speaker 1: just leaving. 158 00:07:23,784 --> 00:07:25,144 Speaker 2: My mum was beside herself. 159 00:07:25,144 --> 00:07:26,584 Speaker 1: Oh, I love it your mom and I are going 160 00:07:26,584 --> 00:07:27,904 Speaker 1: through I mean I was a child, but I love 161 00:07:27,904 --> 00:07:29,464 Speaker 1: it your mom and I are going through the same thing. 162 00:07:29,584 --> 00:07:31,304 Speaker 1: Because they didn't know she was leaving, so there wasn't 163 00:07:31,304 --> 00:07:33,104 Speaker 1: like a proper death scene. But then they just brought 164 00:07:33,184 --> 00:07:35,504 Speaker 1: Rose McGowan in and it reset the show. Obviously, it 165 00:07:35,544 --> 00:07:37,304 Speaker 1: was like not as good as without Shannon, but it 166 00:07:37,344 --> 00:07:39,984 Speaker 1: reset the show in a really interesting way. But because 167 00:07:39,984 --> 00:07:42,464 Speaker 1: I think the writing and storytelling was there same when 168 00:07:42,544 --> 00:07:45,184 Speaker 1: Nina doe Brev left Vampire Diaries, I would argue the 169 00:07:45,184 --> 00:07:47,464 Speaker 1: show got a lot better just because at reset they 170 00:07:47,544 --> 00:07:50,144 Speaker 1: changed the stakes. They brought different characters to the forefront, 171 00:07:50,584 --> 00:07:52,984 Speaker 1: even with the Walking Dead. I'm sorry, these are all 172 00:07:53,024 --> 00:07:56,064 Speaker 1: like sci fi and mythical shows, so I'm bringing up 173 00:07:56,064 --> 00:07:59,144 Speaker 1: but you know, storytelling, storytelling no matter way you look 174 00:07:59,304 --> 00:08:03,064 Speaker 1: like the Lee character. Rick left after money seasons, but 175 00:08:03,064 --> 00:08:05,944 Speaker 1: the show continued on for many seasons and it's just 176 00:08:05,984 --> 00:08:08,464 Speaker 1: that it's an ensemble show, so they just reset. They 177 00:08:08,464 --> 00:08:11,184 Speaker 1: had a time jump, which obviously doing this show, but 178 00:08:11,224 --> 00:08:12,944 Speaker 1: I think if the writing's there, you can bring new 179 00:08:13,024 --> 00:08:15,584 Speaker 1: characters in. It seems like a production issue. 180 00:08:15,304 --> 00:08:17,984 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I also feel like it's really hard for 181 00:08:18,024 --> 00:08:20,744 Speaker 2: comedies because I think with comedies, even when it's an 182 00:08:20,784 --> 00:08:24,984 Speaker 2: ensemble cast, each person represents a certain part of like 183 00:08:25,264 --> 00:08:29,104 Speaker 2: comic relief. Yeah, and that is like them coming out 184 00:08:29,224 --> 00:08:31,704 Speaker 2: is not necessarily just their character. It's like them. They 185 00:08:31,784 --> 00:08:34,584 Speaker 2: like embody, that essence, and when that leaves, it's hard 186 00:08:34,584 --> 00:08:36,544 Speaker 2: to get that exact same person to replace the same 187 00:08:36,544 --> 00:08:38,664 Speaker 2: thing happened in the office and Parks and rec I 188 00:08:38,704 --> 00:08:40,704 Speaker 2: think comedy struggles a lot in this area. 189 00:08:40,784 --> 00:08:42,864 Speaker 1: I think maybe, And just like that's a good example 190 00:08:42,904 --> 00:08:45,784 Speaker 1: because obviously they started that show knowing that Kim Katra 191 00:08:46,024 --> 00:08:48,264 Speaker 1: wasn't coming back. But you feel the absence of the 192 00:08:48,264 --> 00:08:50,824 Speaker 1: Samantha character because they've tried to split up her lines 193 00:08:50,824 --> 00:08:53,704 Speaker 1: between the girls, like things that she would say sometimes 194 00:08:53,744 --> 00:08:56,144 Speaker 1: Carrie or Miranda will say, and it doesn't really work 195 00:08:56,184 --> 00:08:59,464 Speaker 1: the same way. It's not your character. Or they've tried 196 00:08:59,504 --> 00:09:02,064 Speaker 1: to bring in these other characters and those other characters 197 00:09:02,064 --> 00:09:04,344 Speaker 1: like Seema or Lisa. They work best when they're just 198 00:09:04,384 --> 00:09:06,624 Speaker 1: being their own unique characters, not when they're trying to 199 00:09:06,664 --> 00:09:08,224 Speaker 1: fill a gap. And I think that's maybe that's what 200 00:09:08,264 --> 00:09:09,664 Speaker 1: they're trying to do. They're trying to fill a rene 201 00:09:09,704 --> 00:09:11,944 Speaker 1: rap gap where they should have. It's almost like when 202 00:09:11,984 --> 00:09:14,064 Speaker 1: Zoey Dashanel had to go on Matt Lee from New 203 00:09:14,104 --> 00:09:15,304 Speaker 1: Girl and she was gone. 204 00:09:15,504 --> 00:09:17,984 Speaker 2: She was replaced with Meghan Fox. 205 00:09:18,144 --> 00:09:21,384 Speaker 1: Yeah, Megan Fox the opposite of Zoe Dashanel, both as 206 00:09:21,424 --> 00:09:23,744 Speaker 1: an actress but also her characters. I really liked her 207 00:09:23,824 --> 00:09:25,344 Speaker 1: in that yeah, because I think it is that that 208 00:09:25,744 --> 00:09:28,344 Speaker 1: Jessica Day character was so bright and so bubbly and 209 00:09:28,424 --> 00:09:30,904 Speaker 1: so positive, and if you brought another character in, it 210 00:09:30,904 --> 00:09:33,024 Speaker 1: would have felt, I think, really hollow to try and 211 00:09:33,064 --> 00:09:35,344 Speaker 1: replace her. So I think they did something really smart 212 00:09:35,344 --> 00:09:38,464 Speaker 1: where they went completely the opposite direction and brought in 213 00:09:38,504 --> 00:09:40,824 Speaker 1: the opposite character of her, and that's it changed the 214 00:09:40,904 --> 00:09:41,584 Speaker 1: dynamic up. 215 00:09:41,664 --> 00:09:43,304 Speaker 2: So it feels like sex Lives of college girls were 216 00:09:43,304 --> 00:09:45,544 Speaker 2: trying to play it safe by doing both right. They 217 00:09:45,544 --> 00:09:48,184 Speaker 2: brought in this new house made Kasey, who's the exact 218 00:09:48,224 --> 00:09:52,224 Speaker 2: opposite of Layton, but they also had Taylor who was. 219 00:09:52,384 --> 00:09:55,304 Speaker 2: I guess the same as Layton. Yeah, it didn't work 220 00:09:55,464 --> 00:09:57,064 Speaker 2: either way. Oh, I'm sad about this. 221 00:09:57,104 --> 00:09:58,784 Speaker 1: I hope that should I'm. 222 00:09:58,704 --> 00:10:05,264 Speaker 2: Still watching every single episode. Recently, another sexual assault lawsuit 223 00:10:05,304 --> 00:10:08,984 Speaker 2: has been filed against Sean Combs, also known as Diddy, 224 00:10:09,184 --> 00:10:11,224 Speaker 2: in New York, which has brought the total number of 225 00:10:11,304 --> 00:10:15,384 Speaker 2: sexual misconduct cases against him to over thirty so. This 226 00:10:15,504 --> 00:10:18,784 Speaker 2: latest case involves an anonymous woman who claims that Comb 227 00:10:18,904 --> 00:10:21,384 Speaker 2: sexually assaulted her in the year two thousand, when she 228 00:10:21,464 --> 00:10:25,064 Speaker 2: was sixteen years old. This is different to the case 229 00:10:25,224 --> 00:10:27,384 Speaker 2: that also happened in two thousand with the thirteen year 230 00:10:27,424 --> 00:10:31,224 Speaker 2: old woman. According to court documents that was obtained by People, 231 00:10:31,424 --> 00:10:34,424 Speaker 2: the incident allegedly occurred while she was working as a 232 00:10:34,464 --> 00:10:38,944 Speaker 2: babysitter in the same building where Comb's then unnamed partner lived. 233 00:10:39,464 --> 00:10:42,984 Speaker 2: The lawsuit states that after she repeatedly declined offers to 234 00:10:43,064 --> 00:10:45,744 Speaker 2: a ride home from Combs and two of his associates, 235 00:10:46,024 --> 00:10:49,904 Speaker 2: she eventually accepted. However, instead of taking her home, she 236 00:10:49,984 --> 00:10:52,184 Speaker 2: alleged that Combs gave her a drink that made her 237 00:10:52,264 --> 00:10:55,824 Speaker 2: feel groggy and unsteady. The woman then claims that she 238 00:10:55,904 --> 00:10:59,264 Speaker 2: was taken to another location where Combs allegedly raped her 239 00:10:59,384 --> 00:11:01,624 Speaker 2: and following the assault, she says she was driven back 240 00:11:01,664 --> 00:11:04,744 Speaker 2: to apartment building and left in the lobby. So the 241 00:11:04,824 --> 00:11:08,584 Speaker 2: accuser was living with her parents in Lower Manhattan at 242 00:11:08,584 --> 00:11:11,584 Speaker 2: the time, and she has filed the case under a pseudonym, 243 00:11:11,664 --> 00:11:13,864 Speaker 2: Jane Doe, to protect her identity, which a lot of 244 00:11:13,904 --> 00:11:17,104 Speaker 2: the other cuses have as well. So last time we 245 00:11:17,184 --> 00:11:21,184 Speaker 2: talked about the cases against Sean Combe's jay Z was 246 00:11:21,264 --> 00:11:25,184 Speaker 2: also named in a case as allegedly being involved, and 247 00:11:25,464 --> 00:11:28,344 Speaker 2: we talked about everything that happened since. So just to 248 00:11:28,424 --> 00:11:31,424 Speaker 2: kind of jog your memory, a lot has happened since 249 00:11:31,464 --> 00:11:34,664 Speaker 2: we last talked about that event. You might remember jay 250 00:11:34,744 --> 00:11:36,784 Speaker 2: Z put out a statement. There was also a lot 251 00:11:36,824 --> 00:11:40,584 Speaker 2: of commentary about him attending them a Faster premiere with 252 00:11:40,784 --> 00:11:45,104 Speaker 2: his wife Beyonce and his daughter Blue Ivy. So since then, 253 00:11:45,664 --> 00:11:49,904 Speaker 2: it's been a lot of suing and counter suing between 254 00:11:50,184 --> 00:11:54,144 Speaker 2: jay Z's team and the lawyer who's representing a lot 255 00:11:54,184 --> 00:11:57,824 Speaker 2: of the plaintiffs, Tony Busby's team. So first up, we 256 00:11:57,904 --> 00:12:01,184 Speaker 2: talked about that there was a lawsuit filed against jay Z. 257 00:12:01,584 --> 00:12:04,184 Speaker 2: He then put out a statement which we talked about. 258 00:12:04,264 --> 00:12:06,384 Speaker 2: We'll link that episode in the show notes because we 259 00:12:06,464 --> 00:12:09,104 Speaker 2: dissected that whole thing. It was a very emotional statement. 260 00:12:09,584 --> 00:12:12,024 Speaker 2: It was then picked up that the accuser there was 261 00:12:12,104 --> 00:12:15,984 Speaker 2: some inconsistencies in her reporting. For example, she claimed that 262 00:12:16,024 --> 00:12:19,264 Speaker 2: her father picked her up after the alleged assault, but 263 00:12:19,304 --> 00:12:22,704 Speaker 2: her father didn't recall that there was a musician that 264 00:12:22,744 --> 00:12:26,384 Speaker 2: the accuser mentioned that was present, but that person wasn't 265 00:12:26,424 --> 00:12:29,304 Speaker 2: in New York at the time, and then some certain 266 00:12:29,384 --> 00:12:34,504 Speaker 2: details of Shawn Combe's home was inaccurate. She didn't mention that. 267 00:12:34,664 --> 00:12:38,664 Speaker 2: She admitted that there were inconsistencies, but the premise of 268 00:12:38,704 --> 00:12:42,824 Speaker 2: her main allegation didn't change. Jay Z's lawyers argue that 269 00:12:43,424 --> 00:12:46,784 Speaker 2: quote nearly every step in the accuser's story is either 270 00:12:46,904 --> 00:12:50,504 Speaker 2: false or highly unlikely, and they were seeking dismissal of 271 00:12:50,544 --> 00:12:53,864 Speaker 2: the case. So the first time they seek dismissal, that 272 00:12:54,064 --> 00:12:56,984 Speaker 2: wasn't granted by the judge, But now they filed to 273 00:12:57,024 --> 00:13:01,344 Speaker 2: dismiss the case again. Alongside all of this that's been 274 00:13:01,384 --> 00:13:05,464 Speaker 2: happening with Sean Comb's additional legal actions has been happening 275 00:13:05,504 --> 00:13:08,944 Speaker 2: between jay Z's team and Tony Busby's team. So jay 276 00:13:09,024 --> 00:13:13,584 Speaker 2: Z is suing Busby in California for extortion and defamation 277 00:13:14,184 --> 00:13:17,824 Speaker 2: and Busby has countersued with his own legal action against 278 00:13:17,944 --> 00:13:20,824 Speaker 2: Rock Nation, which is jay Z's company, claiming that Rock 279 00:13:20,904 --> 00:13:24,544 Speaker 2: Nation has been using shadowy operatives to encourage former clients 280 00:13:24,544 --> 00:13:27,664 Speaker 2: to file claims against him. So there's kind of two, 281 00:13:28,024 --> 00:13:32,304 Speaker 2: I guess, quote unquote storylines happening, everything that's happening with 282 00:13:32,784 --> 00:13:35,944 Speaker 2: Sean Combs and then everything that's happening on the side 283 00:13:35,984 --> 00:13:39,304 Speaker 2: between jay Z's team and Tony Busby's team. So it's 284 00:13:39,344 --> 00:13:41,784 Speaker 2: getting very confusing. 285 00:13:41,824 --> 00:13:43,904 Speaker 1: Yes, and I think sometimes that can be a little 286 00:13:43,904 --> 00:13:45,664 Speaker 1: bit dangerous. Like I know, this story is a lot 287 00:13:45,704 --> 00:13:47,144 Speaker 1: for a lot of people to follow because there's so 288 00:13:47,184 --> 00:13:50,544 Speaker 1: many moving parts, so many different allegations, and obviously the 289 00:13:50,584 --> 00:13:55,344 Speaker 1: allegations against Sean Carter jay Z were wrapped up in 290 00:13:55,384 --> 00:13:58,824 Speaker 1: the allegations against Sean Combs, and so they will really 291 00:13:58,864 --> 00:14:00,904 Speaker 1: pair together in the press, but as we go forward, 292 00:14:00,904 --> 00:14:02,464 Speaker 1: you almost have to look at them as two different 293 00:14:02,464 --> 00:14:07,064 Speaker 1: things because with jay Z, his reaction has been very 294 00:14:07,144 --> 00:14:10,664 Speaker 1: much to go after Tony Busby and paint him in 295 00:14:10,704 --> 00:14:13,624 Speaker 1: a really bad light, which Sean Combs's team has done 296 00:14:13,624 --> 00:14:16,184 Speaker 1: as well. But they're really wrapped up in this kind 297 00:14:16,224 --> 00:14:18,984 Speaker 1: of back and forth, and the story from this one, 298 00:14:19,104 --> 00:14:22,424 Speaker 1: Jane Doe is being discredited in a way that the 299 00:14:22,504 --> 00:14:27,544 Speaker 1: majority of allegations against Sean Combs haven't been. Yeah, not 300 00:14:27,624 --> 00:14:29,344 Speaker 1: to say I think we obviously what this Jane Doe 301 00:14:29,384 --> 00:14:32,264 Speaker 1: is saying, people are really ripping her apart because there's 302 00:14:32,304 --> 00:14:35,104 Speaker 1: a few inconsistencies. But I would say, I mean, obviously 303 00:14:35,104 --> 00:14:36,984 Speaker 1: it's allegations at the stage, and we won't know until 304 00:14:37,024 --> 00:14:38,864 Speaker 1: it goes to court. But I would say it's not 305 00:14:38,984 --> 00:14:42,784 Speaker 1: unheard of for people to not remember specific things about 306 00:14:42,784 --> 00:14:45,304 Speaker 1: something that happened over a decade ago. For her father 307 00:14:45,424 --> 00:14:47,904 Speaker 1: to not remember picking her up because for him that 308 00:14:47,904 --> 00:14:49,584 Speaker 1: would have just been a normal knife. For her, it's 309 00:14:49,624 --> 00:14:51,664 Speaker 1: the night that would have changed her life if the 310 00:14:51,704 --> 00:14:53,344 Speaker 1: allegations are true, do you know what I mean? So, 311 00:14:53,384 --> 00:14:56,704 Speaker 1: I think that jay Z's team seems really keen to 312 00:14:56,784 --> 00:15:00,184 Speaker 1: paint Tony Busby as this like criminal mastermind, which, like 313 00:15:00,304 --> 00:15:01,864 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know everything about the man, but 314 00:15:01,904 --> 00:15:04,304 Speaker 1: from what I've read, he is like quite problematic, and 315 00:15:04,344 --> 00:15:06,304 Speaker 1: I think a sense of this is like maybe he's 316 00:15:06,344 --> 00:15:08,144 Speaker 1: wanting to sort of get some sort of power, But 317 00:15:08,504 --> 00:15:10,864 Speaker 1: I don't think you can let that. Overall what happening 318 00:15:10,904 --> 00:15:13,464 Speaker 1: with these men and women who have put these claims forward, 319 00:15:13,784 --> 00:15:16,544 Speaker 1: and it shouldn't also feed into the Sean Combs case 320 00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:20,064 Speaker 1: because there are so many allegations against him, like and 321 00:15:20,104 --> 00:15:22,184 Speaker 1: his legal team is still pushing for the fact that 322 00:15:22,304 --> 00:15:25,064 Speaker 1: all of these are fabricated, that dozens and dozens of 323 00:15:25,064 --> 00:15:27,704 Speaker 1: people all got together to come up with this similar 324 00:15:27,744 --> 00:15:30,544 Speaker 1: story and then filed like legal complaints about it. 325 00:15:30,664 --> 00:15:34,464 Speaker 2: And it's also with the inconsistencies. What's really annoying is that, 326 00:15:34,624 --> 00:15:39,064 Speaker 2: of course there will be inconsistencies in that situation, Like 327 00:15:39,144 --> 00:15:43,024 Speaker 2: the accuser is talking about something that happened years ago, 328 00:15:43,624 --> 00:15:46,544 Speaker 2: and she also talked about how she was allegedly drugged 329 00:15:46,664 --> 00:15:49,864 Speaker 2: and trying to remember something in that situation in the 330 00:15:49,904 --> 00:15:53,264 Speaker 2: state you're in, Like, of course there's going to be inconsistencies, 331 00:15:53,304 --> 00:15:55,584 Speaker 2: like I don't even remember what they did yesterday. Yeah, 332 00:15:55,624 --> 00:15:58,664 Speaker 2: And I think that's like one of the catalysts that 333 00:15:58,704 --> 00:16:01,424 Speaker 2: like everyone's just honing in on because, like we said before, 334 00:16:01,464 --> 00:16:04,864 Speaker 2: they just reading the headlines saying there's inconsistencies in the case, 335 00:16:04,904 --> 00:16:07,344 Speaker 2: but not actually reading between the lines or actually what 336 00:16:07,384 --> 00:16:10,344 Speaker 2: she's saying. Also, the judge who's working on this case, 337 00:16:10,784 --> 00:16:14,384 Speaker 2: and Alisa Taurres had previously denied the early attempt from 338 00:16:14,464 --> 00:16:17,624 Speaker 2: jay Z to dismiss the case. She criticized jay Z's 339 00:16:17,664 --> 00:16:21,584 Speaker 2: legal team for combative motions and inflammatory language, and she 340 00:16:21,664 --> 00:16:23,704 Speaker 2: said with this new one she won't fast track the 341 00:16:23,744 --> 00:16:25,344 Speaker 2: process despite the demands. 342 00:16:25,864 --> 00:16:28,144 Speaker 1: I think this is like, there's obviously a huge amount 343 00:16:28,144 --> 00:16:31,544 Speaker 1: of flaws with legal systems everywhere, but particularly the American one, 344 00:16:31,584 --> 00:16:33,064 Speaker 1: But in this case, I just feel like it is 345 00:16:33,064 --> 00:16:36,344 Speaker 1: good that there is a judge overseeing and making these decisions. 346 00:16:36,424 --> 00:16:38,664 Speaker 1: In terms of I think people should be looking to 347 00:16:38,864 --> 00:16:40,584 Speaker 1: I don't know that's how the legal system works, but 348 00:16:40,624 --> 00:16:42,784 Speaker 1: I think people should be looking to what she's saying 349 00:16:43,224 --> 00:16:45,544 Speaker 1: to get their information because so much is getting lost 350 00:16:45,544 --> 00:16:48,504 Speaker 1: in translation and as we're saying, like different media spins 351 00:16:48,544 --> 00:16:51,344 Speaker 1: and TikTok stories and even what the people involved in 352 00:16:51,384 --> 00:16:54,104 Speaker 1: the case are saying. Like if you read the statements 353 00:16:54,104 --> 00:16:56,664 Speaker 1: from Tony Buzzbil, you watch the press conferences with him, 354 00:16:57,064 --> 00:16:59,144 Speaker 1: it can be very easy to get caught up in 355 00:16:59,184 --> 00:17:01,544 Speaker 1: what he's saying. But then if you kind of read 356 00:17:01,544 --> 00:17:03,424 Speaker 1: like the jay Z statements or the Sean Combs, like 357 00:17:03,464 --> 00:17:05,024 Speaker 1: not that I believe them, but I think that like 358 00:17:05,064 --> 00:17:07,864 Speaker 1: they're telling such a different story that there's so much 359 00:17:07,904 --> 00:17:09,904 Speaker 1: information out there it can be sort of hard to 360 00:17:09,904 --> 00:17:10,704 Speaker 1: get model through. 361 00:17:10,744 --> 00:17:12,344 Speaker 2: So I feel like, and they do it on purpose, Oh, 362 00:17:12,384 --> 00:17:14,624 Speaker 2: I don't make it as confusing as possible, to the 363 00:17:14,624 --> 00:17:16,784 Speaker 2: point where you're just like, oh, I don't have time. 364 00:17:16,664 --> 00:17:18,824 Speaker 1: To go over this, because jay Z's whole thing is 365 00:17:18,824 --> 00:17:20,984 Speaker 1: that Tony Buzzby is trying to attack his children. So 366 00:17:20,984 --> 00:17:22,584 Speaker 1: if you just read that, you'd be like, oh, he's 367 00:17:22,624 --> 00:17:25,904 Speaker 1: attacking these young children, like that's awful, Whereas there's obviously 368 00:17:25,904 --> 00:17:27,424 Speaker 1: a lot more to the story from that. He's trying 369 00:17:27,464 --> 00:17:31,384 Speaker 1: to distance himself from the actual horrific allegations. But it 370 00:17:31,464 --> 00:17:33,584 Speaker 1: just seems like every time a new Shawn Combe's story 371 00:17:33,624 --> 00:17:36,264 Speaker 1: comes up in particular, like they're all horrific. But I 372 00:17:36,304 --> 00:17:37,904 Speaker 1: feel like it hits me like a wave every time 373 00:17:37,904 --> 00:17:40,104 Speaker 1: of how terrible. If I had just heard this story 374 00:17:40,144 --> 00:17:42,864 Speaker 1: of this young girl in isolation, I would have been like, 375 00:17:42,864 --> 00:17:44,744 Speaker 1: that's horrific, and then you'd think that there are so 376 00:17:44,864 --> 00:17:46,864 Speaker 1: many other people involved. 377 00:17:47,104 --> 00:17:50,264 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the latest news is that jay Z has 378 00:17:50,304 --> 00:17:54,464 Speaker 2: filed again to get the case against him dismissed. Like always, 379 00:17:54,624 --> 00:17:57,544 Speaker 2: we will be following this case and we'll be talking 380 00:17:57,584 --> 00:17:59,584 Speaker 2: about any updates that come from that NA. 381 00:18:01,224 --> 00:18:03,944 Speaker 1: So quite a few updates on our dear friend Megan Markle, 382 00:18:04,024 --> 00:18:06,064 Speaker 1: who has been a very busy lady over the last 383 00:18:06,064 --> 00:18:08,744 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So about a week ago, the first 384 00:18:08,744 --> 00:18:13,224 Speaker 1: trailer for her new Netflix series with Love Megan, We'd. 385 00:18:12,944 --> 00:18:17,104 Speaker 2: Love dot dot dot Megan dot dot dot Now I 386 00:18:17,144 --> 00:18:19,424 Speaker 2: actually love those two women to come together, my brain 387 00:18:19,464 --> 00:18:21,264 Speaker 2: would break was released. 388 00:18:21,464 --> 00:18:24,424 Speaker 1: It's her new fancy at home cooking and lifestyle show 389 00:18:24,464 --> 00:18:27,264 Speaker 1: where she's got different celebrity friends coming into her home and. 390 00:18:27,344 --> 00:18:29,784 Speaker 2: The home home is the interesting thing. 391 00:18:30,144 --> 00:18:32,944 Speaker 1: What you're gonna say, So, I'll bring it, I'll bring it, Okay, 392 00:18:32,984 --> 00:18:34,744 Speaker 1: I'll bring it light. Someone's got a bone to pick. 393 00:18:36,784 --> 00:18:42,304 Speaker 3: I've always loved taking something pretty ordinary and elevating it, 394 00:18:42,424 --> 00:18:45,464 Speaker 3: surprising people with moments that let them know I was 395 00:18:45,464 --> 00:18:47,224 Speaker 3: really thinking of them. 396 00:18:47,264 --> 00:18:50,584 Speaker 2: What This is probably one of the most glamorous moments 397 00:18:50,664 --> 00:18:52,464 Speaker 2: of my life. 398 00:18:53,504 --> 00:18:57,064 Speaker 3: This is about connecting with friends. I love that we're 399 00:18:57,104 --> 00:19:00,144 Speaker 3: doing this together for the first time, making new friends. 400 00:19:01,024 --> 00:19:01,824 Speaker 1: That is so good. 401 00:19:01,984 --> 00:19:07,144 Speaker 3: With family. Now I'm just learning how much Donnie we are. 402 00:19:07,384 --> 00:19:09,944 Speaker 1: So the trailer came out, it was mixed with very 403 00:19:09,944 --> 00:19:12,944 Speaker 1: different thoughts and it was meant to come out worldwide 404 00:19:12,984 --> 00:19:13,784 Speaker 1: this Wednesday. 405 00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:14,344 Speaker 2: The show. 406 00:19:14,464 --> 00:19:16,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, the show Megan Michael's News Show. So we had 407 00:19:16,904 --> 00:19:18,264 Speaker 1: a whole content plan. 408 00:19:19,344 --> 00:19:22,184 Speaker 2: Calendar to be like, watch the all episodes of Megan 409 00:19:22,264 --> 00:19:22,864 Speaker 2: Markles News. 410 00:19:22,904 --> 00:19:24,904 Speaker 1: Yes. So we had a team meeting, we had social 411 00:19:24,944 --> 00:19:27,264 Speaker 1: and everything done because Netflix weren't going to give us 412 00:19:27,264 --> 00:19:30,024 Speaker 1: any screeners. Normally for everything at new that's coming out 413 00:19:30,064 --> 00:19:32,944 Speaker 1: on Netflix, they'll just drop the screeners into our accounts 414 00:19:32,944 --> 00:19:34,864 Speaker 1: so we can watch everything ahead of time, which is lovely. 415 00:19:35,184 --> 00:19:37,424 Speaker 1: For this there was a real code of secrecy. 416 00:19:37,624 --> 00:19:39,584 Speaker 2: They didn't need to They're like, we know you're going 417 00:19:39,624 --> 00:19:40,224 Speaker 2: to talk about it. 418 00:19:40,424 --> 00:19:42,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we had made this whole plan that we 419 00:19:42,584 --> 00:19:44,104 Speaker 1: were going to go home and we're going to watch all 420 00:19:44,144 --> 00:19:46,664 Speaker 1: eight episodes in one night. We're going to do thoughts, 421 00:19:46,744 --> 00:19:49,344 Speaker 1: We're going to record our podcasts the next day. And 422 00:19:49,344 --> 00:19:51,504 Speaker 1: then a press release came out that the show had 423 00:19:51,504 --> 00:19:55,664 Speaker 1: been delayed until March four. As this situation escalated, I 424 00:19:55,744 --> 00:19:57,864 Speaker 1: kind of did think this is going to happen because 425 00:19:57,904 --> 00:20:00,744 Speaker 1: of the devastation of the wildflyers that are currently still 426 00:20:00,784 --> 00:20:03,544 Speaker 1: burning in La. So many people have lost their lives, 427 00:20:03,664 --> 00:20:06,184 Speaker 1: so many houses have been destroyed people. I think that 428 00:20:06,264 --> 00:20:08,904 Speaker 1: was the correct decisions, oh one hundred percent, especially because 429 00:20:08,944 --> 00:20:12,144 Speaker 1: the show is very much celebrating like Meghan Michael grew 430 00:20:12,224 --> 00:20:14,624 Speaker 1: up in LA that's her home, and it was very 431 00:20:14,664 --> 00:20:17,264 Speaker 1: much about celebrating I guess, like the lifestyle that she'd 432 00:20:17,264 --> 00:20:19,144 Speaker 1: built in that area. But also on top of that 433 00:20:19,304 --> 00:20:21,064 Speaker 1: is that she can't do any press for it. 434 00:20:21,344 --> 00:20:21,664 Speaker 2: Yeah. 435 00:20:21,704 --> 00:20:24,024 Speaker 1: Really, and that's so important as well, and it would 436 00:20:24,064 --> 00:20:26,304 Speaker 1: look very tone deaf if she was out there being like, yeah, 437 00:20:26,304 --> 00:20:28,624 Speaker 1: we make this jam on my show, and then you know, 438 00:20:28,664 --> 00:20:30,584 Speaker 1: people are displaced. But also a lot of people like 439 00:20:30,624 --> 00:20:32,624 Speaker 1: I won't go into names, but we had quite a 440 00:20:32,624 --> 00:20:34,944 Speaker 1: few at Mama Mir and for the Spill, some big 441 00:20:34,984 --> 00:20:38,064 Speaker 1: interviews booked with different celebrities who have now had to 442 00:20:38,104 --> 00:20:41,824 Speaker 1: cancel because they're either helping with efforts or their homes 443 00:20:41,864 --> 00:20:43,504 Speaker 1: being displayed, you know what I mean, that sort of stuff. 444 00:20:43,504 --> 00:20:46,184 Speaker 1: So it's having a big role on effect. Even Jennifer Lopez, 445 00:20:46,224 --> 00:20:48,224 Speaker 1: like for Unstoppable, her new movie, he said like, I'm 446 00:20:48,224 --> 00:20:50,104 Speaker 1: not doing any press for that. We weren't talking to 447 00:20:50,184 --> 00:20:52,144 Speaker 1: Jennal Philopez, which is sad, But I think a lot 448 00:20:52,144 --> 00:20:54,544 Speaker 1: of people have had to pull back their projects and 449 00:20:54,584 --> 00:20:56,584 Speaker 1: their press rounds. It just feels that the Meghan Michael 450 00:20:56,584 --> 00:20:59,144 Speaker 1: one is making a bit more news, I guess because 451 00:20:59,144 --> 00:21:00,904 Speaker 1: the actual show is being pulled and. 452 00:21:00,864 --> 00:21:03,824 Speaker 2: The anticipation for it exactly so ready for it. 453 00:21:03,984 --> 00:21:06,224 Speaker 1: Also, I should say there's been a lot of backlash 454 00:21:06,224 --> 00:21:07,944 Speaker 1: about the show and the trailer, which we'll get to, 455 00:21:07,984 --> 00:21:10,904 Speaker 1: but there's also been a lot of backlash about Prince 456 00:21:10,984 --> 00:21:13,824 Speaker 1: Harry and Megan Markle and their reactions to the wildfires. 457 00:21:13,824 --> 00:21:16,504 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen this, so at first 458 00:21:16,544 --> 00:21:17,984 Speaker 1: there was a lot of news reports for it, whether 459 00:21:18,024 --> 00:21:19,944 Speaker 1: their home was going to burn down or anything like that, Like, 460 00:21:19,984 --> 00:21:24,184 Speaker 1: they're not on the line of fire currently, so Montecito 461 00:21:25,424 --> 00:21:27,744 Speaker 1: very across that house, not from the trailer, but you know, 462 00:21:27,864 --> 00:21:29,944 Speaker 1: just from life in general. So they've been said that 463 00:21:29,984 --> 00:21:32,784 Speaker 1: some of the different volunteer stations, and then this story 464 00:21:32,904 --> 00:21:35,224 Speaker 1: broke out that they had just turned up at the 465 00:21:35,264 --> 00:21:39,344 Speaker 1: different like food drop off collection points, volunteer places, and 466 00:21:39,344 --> 00:21:42,464 Speaker 1: that instead of actually helping, they were chasing down like 467 00:21:42,544 --> 00:21:44,664 Speaker 1: cameras and trying to get on TV. That they were 468 00:21:44,704 --> 00:21:47,064 Speaker 1: only staying for a small amount of time, And there 469 00:21:47,064 --> 00:21:50,024 Speaker 1: was this real big backlash from different outlets saying that 470 00:21:50,064 --> 00:21:52,504 Speaker 1: they were like terrible human beings for doing this. You 471 00:21:52,584 --> 00:21:55,144 Speaker 1: had someone like Justin Bateman, who is has been in 472 00:21:55,144 --> 00:21:56,864 Speaker 1: the industry for a long time, who's like an actress 473 00:21:56,864 --> 00:22:00,424 Speaker 1: and filmmaker, going on to different news shows and saying 474 00:22:00,424 --> 00:22:03,424 Speaker 1: they're the equivalent to ambulance chases because they're just chasing 475 00:22:03,744 --> 00:22:06,424 Speaker 1: after these just said that, yeah, well after, and that's 476 00:22:06,424 --> 00:22:09,104 Speaker 1: obviously gone viral because anything bad about Megamark in particular 477 00:22:09,144 --> 00:22:11,744 Speaker 1: goes viral. Stories are out there, and I think you 478 00:22:11,744 --> 00:22:14,424 Speaker 1: would believe that, Like again, you would believe it unless 479 00:22:14,464 --> 00:22:16,664 Speaker 1: you had sort of seen the fact. So People magazine 480 00:22:16,664 --> 00:22:19,064 Speaker 1: had people on the ground and they said, we can 481 00:22:19,104 --> 00:22:22,664 Speaker 1: confirm that Harry and Meghan came to the volunteer point. 482 00:22:22,704 --> 00:22:25,904 Speaker 1: They stayed all day. They were serving food there, helping people. 483 00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:29,624 Speaker 1: They brought a bunch of essential supplies, and the moment 484 00:22:29,664 --> 00:22:31,104 Speaker 1: that you saw them in the back of the cameras 485 00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:33,624 Speaker 1: was a brief moment in the day of a whole 486 00:22:33,704 --> 00:22:35,784 Speaker 1: day that they were there. And apparently they also were 487 00:22:35,824 --> 00:22:38,744 Speaker 1: at other places on different days. So I'm not obviously 488 00:22:38,744 --> 00:22:40,704 Speaker 1: that's just like what you would do. Like they're not, 489 00:22:40,784 --> 00:22:42,744 Speaker 1: you know, superstars for doing that. A lot of people 490 00:22:42,744 --> 00:22:45,984 Speaker 1: out there volunteering, both celebrities and regular people It's just 491 00:22:45,984 --> 00:22:49,024 Speaker 1: so interesting how like one little story of someone saying 492 00:22:49,064 --> 00:22:51,864 Speaker 1: I saw them leave just spread so quickly, And I 493 00:22:51,904 --> 00:22:53,704 Speaker 1: think that most people, unless they go and read the 494 00:22:53,704 --> 00:22:55,864 Speaker 1: full people report, aren't going to know that that's not 495 00:22:55,984 --> 00:22:58,384 Speaker 1: the case. So it's just heightened the hate for them. 496 00:22:59,224 --> 00:23:00,984 Speaker 1: That's fair. I think there's plenty of things you could 497 00:23:01,024 --> 00:23:02,544 Speaker 1: dislike them for if that's what you wanted. 498 00:23:02,584 --> 00:23:04,304 Speaker 2: But I feel I have so much to say. 499 00:23:04,504 --> 00:23:06,264 Speaker 1: No, She's The thing I wanted to say about this 500 00:23:06,424 --> 00:23:09,984 Speaker 1: is that there's a difference because I think there's a 501 00:23:09,984 --> 00:23:13,104 Speaker 1: way to critique celebrities in a funny way that doesn't 502 00:23:13,104 --> 00:23:14,904 Speaker 1: really hurt them. And I think we can do that 503 00:23:14,944 --> 00:23:17,944 Speaker 1: with Megan because she does say some silly things. She's 504 00:23:18,064 --> 00:23:20,704 Speaker 1: very earnest, she's like a real sometimes just a real 505 00:23:20,784 --> 00:23:23,304 Speaker 1: silly girly, And I think that's totally fine. It's like 506 00:23:23,384 --> 00:23:26,624 Speaker 1: when we make fun of someone like like a Brooklyn Beckam, 507 00:23:26,824 --> 00:23:29,384 Speaker 1: like we have no malice towards that boy, and you know, 508 00:23:29,544 --> 00:23:31,584 Speaker 1: there's no hate pouring out towards him. It's like you 509 00:23:31,584 --> 00:23:33,544 Speaker 1: can look at his content and be like, that was funny, 510 00:23:33,624 --> 00:23:36,104 Speaker 1: that was silly what we do in that case, and 511 00:23:36,144 --> 00:23:37,504 Speaker 1: what a lot of people do. If you're looking at 512 00:23:37,544 --> 00:23:39,224 Speaker 1: Megan show and you're like, I can't believe she just 513 00:23:39,264 --> 00:23:41,184 Speaker 1: said that about that blanket, you know what I mean 514 00:23:41,264 --> 00:23:43,184 Speaker 1: or anything like that, Like that's so different to going 515 00:23:43,184 --> 00:23:45,104 Speaker 1: to home being like you're an evil person and you 516 00:23:45,144 --> 00:23:48,144 Speaker 1: should die and you're ruining life for people. Because when 517 00:23:48,184 --> 00:23:50,864 Speaker 1: the trailer came out, there was a backlash of some 518 00:23:50,904 --> 00:23:53,504 Speaker 1: people saying it was ridiculous, we don't need this show 519 00:23:53,944 --> 00:23:56,984 Speaker 1: to that. I would say, it's not about the cooking obviously, 520 00:23:57,024 --> 00:23:58,624 Speaker 1: Like you're gonna learn to cook from Mega Markle, I 521 00:23:58,664 --> 00:24:00,784 Speaker 1: mean you need to learn how I learned from you. Actually, 522 00:24:02,064 --> 00:24:03,584 Speaker 1: next minute I started cooking show. 523 00:24:03,384 --> 00:24:06,344 Speaker 2: At that level of cooking, Like it's very like Hostess, 524 00:24:06,384 --> 00:24:09,104 Speaker 2: but yeah, like Glama, like the amount of people she has, 525 00:24:09,184 --> 00:24:11,584 Speaker 2: like she's like preparing all this for like those people 526 00:24:11,664 --> 00:24:14,424 Speaker 2: won't fit in my studio. Yeah, exactly, just like one 527 00:24:14,424 --> 00:24:15,824 Speaker 2: of those shows. It's very goobified. 528 00:24:15,944 --> 00:24:16,104 Speaker 3: Right. 529 00:24:16,184 --> 00:24:19,144 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm watching it and I'm loving it because it 530 00:24:19,224 --> 00:24:20,024 Speaker 2: just feels good. 531 00:24:20,144 --> 00:24:22,304 Speaker 1: Well, you're invested in Mega Michkl is a person too. 532 00:24:22,344 --> 00:24:24,624 Speaker 1: It's like, no one learned to cook from Hailey Bieber, 533 00:24:24,704 --> 00:24:27,384 Speaker 1: but people watched her pure No one's learning to cook 534 00:24:27,424 --> 00:24:29,424 Speaker 1: from Paris Hilton, Like you know what I mean that 535 00:24:29,464 --> 00:24:31,304 Speaker 1: you just want to see her in the kitchen with 536 00:24:31,344 --> 00:24:34,264 Speaker 1: her celebrity friends. Same with Selena Gometz. So many celebrities 537 00:24:34,304 --> 00:24:36,104 Speaker 1: have this where they have famous people and come over 538 00:24:36,144 --> 00:24:38,824 Speaker 1: and cook with them. It's not about the food, it's 539 00:24:38,864 --> 00:24:41,384 Speaker 1: about the celebrity brand and getting a peek into their 540 00:24:41,424 --> 00:24:43,864 Speaker 1: life and getting to see them interact with their celebrity friends. 541 00:24:44,064 --> 00:24:46,024 Speaker 1: And that's all we want Megan, So I don't understand 542 00:24:46,024 --> 00:24:49,264 Speaker 1: the hatred to her that wasn't given to other celebrities. 543 00:24:49,304 --> 00:24:51,104 Speaker 1: But then also people are saying that she's trying to 544 00:24:51,144 --> 00:24:53,944 Speaker 1: reinvent herself as a trid wife. Like this woman used 545 00:24:53,984 --> 00:24:56,264 Speaker 1: to speak on important issues. This woman was like making 546 00:24:56,264 --> 00:24:58,624 Speaker 1: a difference. She was involved in all these charities, she's 547 00:24:58,624 --> 00:25:01,344 Speaker 1: involved in all of these big movements, and now she's 548 00:25:01,384 --> 00:25:03,144 Speaker 1: reduced herself to a trid wife. 549 00:25:03,304 --> 00:25:05,264 Speaker 2: Oh I don't agree with that. Yeah, I don't know. 550 00:25:05,344 --> 00:25:07,904 Speaker 2: I didn't expect to be like Megan's one one supporter 551 00:25:08,024 --> 00:25:11,024 Speaker 2: and this segment, but I don't agree to that. She's 552 00:25:11,064 --> 00:25:13,504 Speaker 2: still very much involved just because she's not shouting at 553 00:25:13,544 --> 00:25:16,184 Speaker 2: it from the rooftops. Also, there's a Netflix deal we've 554 00:25:16,224 --> 00:25:17,864 Speaker 2: known about for a very There's a. 555 00:25:17,824 --> 00:25:19,544 Speaker 1: Lot of moving parts to it, yet like some of 556 00:25:19,544 --> 00:25:21,584 Speaker 1: it I understand has been like some different shows she 557 00:25:21,624 --> 00:25:23,464 Speaker 1: was trying to get up which weren't the focus on her, 558 00:25:23,504 --> 00:25:26,104 Speaker 1: like an animation and stuff have been canceled. I think 559 00:25:26,264 --> 00:25:28,624 Speaker 1: with Netflix it kind of appears and I'm obviously like 560 00:25:28,664 --> 00:25:30,704 Speaker 1: projecting a bit on this. It appears that she and 561 00:25:30,744 --> 00:25:32,704 Speaker 1: Harry have this deal and some of what they wanted 562 00:25:32,744 --> 00:25:35,664 Speaker 1: to create is like documentaries or animations or things that 563 00:25:35,704 --> 00:25:38,624 Speaker 1: they're behind the scenes in. But I think Netflix is 564 00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:40,824 Speaker 1: just trying to deliver their audience what they want. They're like, no, no, 565 00:25:40,864 --> 00:25:43,264 Speaker 1: they want the documentary on you, or they want to 566 00:25:43,344 --> 00:25:45,704 Speaker 1: see you guys in it. And I don't think that 567 00:25:45,784 --> 00:25:47,824 Speaker 1: they wanted to do another big tell all after their 568 00:25:47,864 --> 00:25:50,184 Speaker 1: first documentary because like that was a lot, there was 569 00:25:50,224 --> 00:25:52,624 Speaker 1: so much in that, and so I think this is, 570 00:25:52,824 --> 00:25:54,864 Speaker 1: you know, almost like it feels like a compromise of 571 00:25:54,904 --> 00:25:56,624 Speaker 1: Megan being like, I'll be on camera, but I'm not 572 00:25:57,264 --> 00:26:00,104 Speaker 1: talking about the royal family. I'm not spilling secrets. I'm 573 00:26:00,104 --> 00:26:01,584 Speaker 1: just going to cook. And also, this has been her 574 00:26:01,664 --> 00:26:04,024 Speaker 1: dream since before she was in the Royal family. Oh 575 00:26:04,104 --> 00:26:07,104 Speaker 1: let us not forget the take the tag a little 576 00:26:07,144 --> 00:26:08,944 Speaker 1: blog like and I think she's been really open about 577 00:26:08,984 --> 00:26:10,984 Speaker 1: this is what she always wanted to do, have a 578 00:26:11,024 --> 00:26:13,344 Speaker 1: cooking show, have a life, which's so fair, right. 579 00:26:13,224 --> 00:26:14,824 Speaker 2: Like she's like, if you want me in camera, cool, 580 00:26:14,824 --> 00:26:16,384 Speaker 2: but I'm going to do what I want to do. 581 00:26:16,464 --> 00:26:18,544 Speaker 2: And you know what, I'm sloping it all up. It 582 00:26:18,584 --> 00:26:20,664 Speaker 2: looks way to watch this. 583 00:26:20,864 --> 00:26:22,784 Speaker 1: It looks so lush, as you know, in my home, 584 00:26:22,824 --> 00:26:24,784 Speaker 1: like I love to have like flowers and candles and 585 00:26:24,784 --> 00:26:26,744 Speaker 1: pretty things. And watching her just set up those flowers, 586 00:26:26,824 --> 00:26:28,384 Speaker 1: I was like, God, this is soothing. 587 00:26:28,544 --> 00:26:32,024 Speaker 2: It is soothing, and I loved the trailer. Are you 588 00:26:32,104 --> 00:26:35,464 Speaker 2: see Megan. She's just in a house. She's like in 589 00:26:35,504 --> 00:26:37,744 Speaker 2: her kitchen. I'm getting to the part where I'm not 590 00:26:37,784 --> 00:26:39,424 Speaker 2: happy about it, Okay, so you see her. 591 00:26:39,464 --> 00:26:40,704 Speaker 1: She's making March hater over here. 592 00:26:40,704 --> 00:26:43,824 Speaker 2: She's in her kitchen, she's in her living room, she's outside, 593 00:26:43,984 --> 00:26:47,104 Speaker 2: she's pulling stuff out of drawer. She knows where everything is. 594 00:26:47,344 --> 00:26:49,344 Speaker 2: Her beautiful dog Guy rip. 595 00:26:49,264 --> 00:26:52,464 Speaker 1: Now, but god, God, but he's in he's in the trailer. 596 00:26:52,544 --> 00:26:54,664 Speaker 2: He's like snoring on a bed like he owns the 597 00:26:54,704 --> 00:26:58,224 Speaker 2: place like every dog does. And then you find out 598 00:26:58,384 --> 00:27:04,144 Speaker 2: that this home lifestyle show is not filmed in her home. Yeah, 599 00:27:04,184 --> 00:27:07,064 Speaker 2: it's not filmed in her twenty one million dollar mansion. 600 00:27:07,144 --> 00:27:10,344 Speaker 2: It's filmed in a nine million dollar mansion down the road, 601 00:27:10,864 --> 00:27:14,544 Speaker 2: in someone else's home. Okay, I get the whole privacy thing. 602 00:27:14,584 --> 00:27:16,424 Speaker 2: Like they are very private. They probably don't want to 603 00:27:16,464 --> 00:27:19,464 Speaker 2: show their home because they know that people will just 604 00:27:19,464 --> 00:27:22,624 Speaker 2: be like looking in backgrounds for like photos or like, 605 00:27:22,704 --> 00:27:24,944 Speaker 2: oh she keeps her knives there, that's so random. 606 00:27:25,104 --> 00:27:27,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I get that, ass What do you apple 607 00:27:27,384 --> 00:27:29,104 Speaker 1: when she was doing some of those videos from her 608 00:27:29,104 --> 00:27:33,064 Speaker 1: home office and she was talking about like some charitable issues. 609 00:27:33,064 --> 00:27:35,224 Speaker 1: She was working on, some big issues, and no one 610 00:27:35,224 --> 00:27:36,944 Speaker 1: can remember what she said or what she was doing 611 00:27:37,024 --> 00:27:39,904 Speaker 1: or which charity she was helping because people screenshot the 612 00:27:39,984 --> 00:27:42,104 Speaker 1: room and then they went around and priced out how 613 00:27:42,184 --> 00:27:44,584 Speaker 1: much it was and that the blanket she had thrown 614 00:27:44,624 --> 00:27:47,384 Speaker 1: over a chair was worth more people's cars, and that 615 00:27:47,424 --> 00:27:49,584 Speaker 1: became the story. So I can totally understand why she 616 00:27:49,624 --> 00:27:51,144 Speaker 1: was like, we can't film in my house. 617 00:27:51,584 --> 00:27:52,984 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I get it. 618 00:27:53,024 --> 00:27:54,344 Speaker 1: I guess as much as I want to, Like, I 619 00:27:54,384 --> 00:27:55,784 Speaker 1: just want to watch her on Harry at Harry with 620 00:27:55,824 --> 00:27:56,344 Speaker 1: a camera on them. 621 00:27:56,344 --> 00:27:58,224 Speaker 2: That's why, just the fact that they're like, like there's 622 00:27:58,224 --> 00:28:00,584 Speaker 2: a scene, like there's a quick scene. It's literally point 623 00:28:00,584 --> 00:28:02,064 Speaker 2: two seconds. You have to be really quick with the 624 00:28:02,064 --> 00:28:05,624 Speaker 2: screenshow okay of like her and Harry embracing in there 625 00:28:05,664 --> 00:28:08,424 Speaker 2: like not even there caught in someone else's court yard 626 00:28:09,144 --> 00:28:12,224 Speaker 2: like with like little Champagre. And it's just so interesting 627 00:28:12,264 --> 00:28:15,064 Speaker 2: that this whole show was about how to be a hostess, 628 00:28:15,304 --> 00:28:17,744 Speaker 2: how to like make a home, how to be homely, 629 00:28:17,904 --> 00:28:19,784 Speaker 2: how to like live in your home. 630 00:28:21,024 --> 00:28:23,864 Speaker 1: It's not homes. I wonder if that'll be I mean, 631 00:28:23,944 --> 00:28:25,664 Speaker 1: probably not, but we haven't seen the show yet. I 632 00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:28,304 Speaker 1: wonder if that will be addressed, or I wonder if 633 00:28:28,344 --> 00:28:30,984 Speaker 1: she just never addresses it. She's like, could you address that? 634 00:28:31,064 --> 00:28:31,224 Speaker 3: Well? 635 00:28:31,384 --> 00:28:32,904 Speaker 1: I wonder if she just is not going to say 636 00:28:32,944 --> 00:28:35,104 Speaker 1: the words my home, this is what I do. She's 637 00:28:35,144 --> 00:28:36,664 Speaker 1: just like and there's some points where they look like 638 00:28:36,704 --> 00:28:40,304 Speaker 1: they aren't little in like a little artisanal shed or something. 639 00:28:40,504 --> 00:28:41,824 Speaker 1: So I guess you could just be like, this is 640 00:28:41,864 --> 00:28:42,984 Speaker 1: almost a set. I don't know. 641 00:28:43,144 --> 00:28:45,184 Speaker 2: I did look at bird eye views of her their 642 00:28:45,224 --> 00:28:48,984 Speaker 2: home versus the one that they're and the one that 643 00:28:49,024 --> 00:28:52,064 Speaker 2: they are filming in which belongs to like these two 644 00:28:52,224 --> 00:28:55,584 Speaker 2: aristocrats who are like now retired, like my absolute dream. 645 00:28:55,624 --> 00:28:57,944 Speaker 2: They're like, here you go. It does look more, I guess, 646 00:28:58,024 --> 00:29:02,584 Speaker 2: quote unquote homie than their actual Like the Montecito house 647 00:29:02,624 --> 00:29:04,824 Speaker 2: they live in is like a mansion, like a very 648 00:29:04,864 --> 00:29:08,984 Speaker 2: modern mansion. It's beautiful, but it's not somewhere where I 649 00:29:09,024 --> 00:29:10,864 Speaker 2: would be like, yeah, you should feel in here. 650 00:29:10,984 --> 00:29:13,504 Speaker 1: So I get it. But there's also logistics to consider. 651 00:29:13,504 --> 00:29:15,064 Speaker 1: Look at me just going to the weeds on this 652 00:29:15,384 --> 00:29:17,584 Speaker 1: is that you'd have to have a whole set of 653 00:29:17,624 --> 00:29:19,864 Speaker 1: people like TV sets, Like when you're on a TV set, 654 00:29:19,904 --> 00:29:21,904 Speaker 1: you don't realize. I've spent a lot of time hanging 655 00:29:21,904 --> 00:29:23,584 Speaker 1: out in movie and TV sets, like you just don't 656 00:29:23,624 --> 00:29:26,464 Speaker 1: realize the amount of people and the amount of stuff 657 00:29:26,504 --> 00:29:29,144 Speaker 1: you need. And if they were camped out at Megan 658 00:29:29,224 --> 00:29:31,584 Speaker 1: Mankle's house for a couple of days, like hurry and 659 00:29:31,584 --> 00:29:33,424 Speaker 1: the kids would have had to go stay somewhere else 660 00:29:33,464 --> 00:29:36,144 Speaker 1: nearly because then you'd have a whole house full of people, 661 00:29:36,264 --> 00:29:38,384 Speaker 1: and you have to have like a makeup station set up, 662 00:29:38,384 --> 00:29:40,904 Speaker 1: and you've got to have like craft services for the crew, 663 00:29:40,944 --> 00:29:42,424 Speaker 1: and you've got to have equipment things, and you've got 664 00:29:42,464 --> 00:29:44,784 Speaker 1: to have stands, like especially like reality TV, because I 665 00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:47,264 Speaker 1: gets it's different and this is like a form of reality. 666 00:29:47,344 --> 00:29:49,464 Speaker 1: It's different with like a narrative project where you've got 667 00:29:49,504 --> 00:29:51,424 Speaker 1: a set in costumes and stuff. But even when I've 668 00:29:51,464 --> 00:29:53,624 Speaker 1: gone and hung out in reality TV sets, they're huge 669 00:29:53,704 --> 00:29:55,584 Speaker 1: having like because you've got to have all the crew 670 00:29:55,584 --> 00:29:57,584 Speaker 1: there for different things, and then you've got to have 671 00:29:57,624 --> 00:30:00,144 Speaker 1: everything that the crew needs and like what their assistants need, 672 00:30:00,184 --> 00:30:02,224 Speaker 1: and just like the amount of people and the chairs 673 00:30:02,264 --> 00:30:04,544 Speaker 1: that people need and the space and like. But it 674 00:30:04,664 --> 00:30:06,944 Speaker 1: is a man and no, I know, but I think 675 00:30:06,984 --> 00:30:08,304 Speaker 1: you having that they would have they would. 676 00:30:08,104 --> 00:30:09,584 Speaker 2: Have had one hundred million dollar deal. 677 00:30:10,464 --> 00:30:11,624 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying they would have had to have 678 00:30:11,704 --> 00:30:14,624 Speaker 1: this huge crew camped out of their house for multiple days. 679 00:30:14,704 --> 00:30:15,744 Speaker 1: And they also think. 680 00:30:15,624 --> 00:30:16,904 Speaker 2: They're fine, they could have done it. 681 00:30:17,024 --> 00:30:18,864 Speaker 1: No, No, I'm just saying I am the logistics of 682 00:30:18,864 --> 00:30:20,504 Speaker 1: being like, let's just go and leave it here. Then 683 00:30:20,504 --> 00:30:21,984 Speaker 1: you can leave everything set up, like you don't have 684 00:30:21,984 --> 00:30:23,944 Speaker 1: to worry about people going into different rooms and stuff. 685 00:30:23,944 --> 00:30:27,144 Speaker 1: That's why people often for shows higher mansions so they 686 00:30:27,184 --> 00:30:28,864 Speaker 1: can have the setup and then they can walk out. 687 00:30:28,984 --> 00:30:31,664 Speaker 2: It's just the I just can't get past the pretending. 688 00:30:31,744 --> 00:30:33,704 Speaker 2: Like the scenes of her in the trailer, which I'm 689 00:30:33,864 --> 00:30:36,144 Speaker 2: could probably change in the actual show, of her just 690 00:30:36,664 --> 00:30:39,224 Speaker 2: walking through a field of berries and then you're picking 691 00:30:39,224 --> 00:30:43,824 Speaker 2: off berries. It's like soda, why do you would act 692 00:30:43,864 --> 00:30:45,864 Speaker 2: in your own home? Also, don't tease us with your 693 00:30:45,864 --> 00:30:48,784 Speaker 2: berry picking when we know we're not getting the jam. Okay, Yeah, 694 00:30:48,864 --> 00:30:51,104 Speaker 2: the jam is a whole other source subject to get into. 695 00:30:51,264 --> 00:30:53,024 Speaker 1: I'll make my decision on this one. I watch it 696 00:30:53,024 --> 00:30:54,664 Speaker 1: because if she opens the door to one of her 697 00:30:54,704 --> 00:30:57,144 Speaker 1: celebrity friends and says, welcome to my home, I am 698 00:30:57,184 --> 00:30:59,464 Speaker 1: gonna die. But if she just says like welcome, I'm 699 00:30:59,504 --> 00:31:01,184 Speaker 1: so glad you hear on my show, I'm like, Okay, 700 00:31:01,184 --> 00:31:02,024 Speaker 1: she's hedging her. 701 00:31:01,904 --> 00:31:04,384 Speaker 2: Betsy and he's like, where are we? 702 00:31:05,744 --> 00:31:07,664 Speaker 1: I want Minni. Even Mindy was getting asked about the 703 00:31:07,704 --> 00:31:08,904 Speaker 1: event the other day. They're like, what do you think 704 00:31:08,944 --> 00:31:10,744 Speaker 1: of all the hate for Mega Markel and her new show? 705 00:31:10,784 --> 00:31:12,424 Speaker 1: And she was like, I think people need to calm 706 00:31:12,464 --> 00:31:15,344 Speaker 1: down the seriously, And I'm like, I can't believe now 707 00:31:15,344 --> 00:31:16,904 Speaker 1: that Mindy Kaling's having to step into it. 708 00:31:17,144 --> 00:31:19,024 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, everyone always hates my new show. 709 00:31:19,104 --> 00:31:22,864 Speaker 1: Yeah enough, I'm just mostly excited for the Mindy Kaling 710 00:31:22,904 --> 00:31:26,704 Speaker 1: episode because Mindy Kaling very rarely does any forward facing 711 00:31:26,704 --> 00:31:29,104 Speaker 1: stuff now, she's very behind the scenes. But the only 712 00:31:29,144 --> 00:31:31,104 Speaker 1: time she'll really go on a reality show, which is 713 00:31:31,104 --> 00:31:33,584 Speaker 1: what this is, or go on a podcast is for 714 00:31:33,744 --> 00:31:36,224 Speaker 1: Meg and Markle. And that's that's the level of respect. 715 00:31:36,264 --> 00:31:39,584 Speaker 2: I have a wall in their like friendship because she's 716 00:31:39,624 --> 00:31:41,824 Speaker 2: also one in the trailer, she's one of the guests, 717 00:31:42,024 --> 00:31:43,904 Speaker 2: one of the only guests who actually has a line 718 00:31:43,944 --> 00:31:46,104 Speaker 2: in the trailer. Yeah, Megan's like cutting a kate and 719 00:31:46,104 --> 00:31:49,024 Speaker 2: Mindy Kaling's like, this is the best time of mind. 720 00:31:49,024 --> 00:31:52,504 Speaker 1: This is the most glamorous I've ever felt. And I 721 00:31:52,544 --> 00:31:53,304 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, me too. 722 00:31:53,344 --> 00:31:54,144 Speaker 2: And I'm not even there. 723 00:31:54,384 --> 00:31:56,064 Speaker 1: I know it's my dream to sit with those two 724 00:31:56,104 --> 00:32:00,224 Speaker 1: women in that flower filled like tea house backyard thing. 725 00:32:00,344 --> 00:32:02,064 Speaker 1: I don't even know what it is. And I was like, 726 00:32:02,104 --> 00:32:03,824 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say anything. I would just sit there and 727 00:32:03,864 --> 00:32:05,544 Speaker 1: watch them. But I'm quite excited for it. We have 728 00:32:05,544 --> 00:32:07,624 Speaker 1: to wait till March now. But yeah, the Megan Markle 729 00:32:07,704 --> 00:32:11,064 Speaker 1: hate has just escalated to an extreme level, both with 730 00:32:11,144 --> 00:32:13,464 Speaker 1: the stories around the fire, which are false, but people 731 00:32:13,464 --> 00:32:16,264 Speaker 1: will never know that and then with the hatred of 732 00:32:16,304 --> 00:32:18,864 Speaker 1: her like becoming a child wife and a lot of just. 733 00:32:18,784 --> 00:32:20,624 Speaker 2: Chosing a show. It's not like she is chaining us 734 00:32:20,664 --> 00:32:22,664 Speaker 2: to our desk to make us watch it. Yeah, but 735 00:32:22,744 --> 00:32:25,264 Speaker 2: she just has a show. There's just become like a shorthanded. 736 00:32:25,264 --> 00:32:27,784 Speaker 1: An art to hating Megamunkle is that people now can 737 00:32:27,864 --> 00:32:29,464 Speaker 1: just like you don't have to think about the joke 738 00:32:29,584 --> 00:32:31,904 Speaker 1: or the accusation, because there's so much to build on 739 00:32:31,984 --> 00:32:34,584 Speaker 1: that's out there already. You can just throw one little thing, 740 00:32:34,864 --> 00:32:37,344 Speaker 1: one little comment, out into the world of social and 741 00:32:37,344 --> 00:32:40,184 Speaker 1: it will ignite this huge backlash because people are so 742 00:32:40,344 --> 00:32:41,664 Speaker 1: prime for it and they're so ready. 743 00:32:41,744 --> 00:32:43,624 Speaker 2: That's so true, and it's getting kind of boring. 744 00:32:43,824 --> 00:32:46,064 Speaker 1: Give us something else to talk about. Oh my god, 745 00:32:46,064 --> 00:32:48,264 Speaker 1: should we watch it together? We can? Oh my god, 746 00:32:48,304 --> 00:32:50,984 Speaker 1: we can make little snacks like she has in the show. 747 00:32:51,144 --> 00:32:53,184 Speaker 1: We should make what we should and we should make 748 00:32:53,224 --> 00:32:55,384 Speaker 1: the little drinks, and we should like watch it together. 749 00:32:55,544 --> 00:32:57,784 Speaker 1: How fun is that? Okay? Okay, So not to keep 750 00:32:57,784 --> 00:32:59,344 Speaker 1: you guys in our planning, maybe you guys gonna watch 751 00:32:59,344 --> 00:33:00,544 Speaker 1: it on the night it comes out to it's a 752 00:33:00,584 --> 00:33:02,904 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, right, Yeah, you guys can't watch it and 753 00:33:02,904 --> 00:33:06,464 Speaker 1: then watch all episodes with will live stream. 754 00:33:07,544 --> 00:33:10,064 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today, 755 00:33:10,104 --> 00:33:12,544 Speaker 2: and thank you so much to anyone who follows us 756 00:33:12,544 --> 00:33:15,584 Speaker 2: on Instagram at the Spill podcast, a little account has 757 00:33:15,624 --> 00:33:18,224 Speaker 2: grown so much, especially over the holiday break, which I 758 00:33:18,264 --> 00:33:20,944 Speaker 2: don't know what it says about us, but we do 759 00:33:21,024 --> 00:33:23,264 Speaker 2: post a lot of content on there, not just from us, 760 00:33:23,264 --> 00:33:26,664 Speaker 2: but at our entire massive entertainment team, and we love 761 00:33:26,704 --> 00:33:29,584 Speaker 2: it so much. So if you haven't followed already, please do. 762 00:33:30,024 --> 00:33:31,944 Speaker 2: A link will be in our show notes to that 763 00:33:32,464 --> 00:33:35,304 Speaker 2: The Spill is produced by Kimberly Bradish with sound production 764 00:33:35,344 --> 00:33:37,344 Speaker 2: by Scott Stronik, and we'll be back here in your 765 00:33:37,344 --> 00:33:39,224 Speaker 2: podcast feed at three pm tomorrow. 766 00:33:39,384 --> 00:33:45,464 Speaker 1: Bye bye