1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:15,304 Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia 2 00:00:15,424 --> 00:00:18,984 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this 3 00:00:19,064 --> 00:00:26,744 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the 4 00:00:26,824 --> 00:00:29,944 Speaker 1: Spill your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodneck and 5 00:00:29,984 --> 00:00:32,864 Speaker 1: I'm am Vernon, and welcome to Weekend Watch, where we 6 00:00:32,904 --> 00:00:35,704 Speaker 1: talked you through the best new TV shows and movies 7 00:00:35,984 --> 00:00:37,544 Speaker 1: that have come out this week, so you know what 8 00:00:37,584 --> 00:00:39,264 Speaker 1: to watch for the weekend. You have to get lost 9 00:00:39,264 --> 00:00:39,824 Speaker 1: in a scroll. 10 00:00:39,984 --> 00:00:42,904 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't play by the rules this week. 11 00:00:42,944 --> 00:00:44,824 Speaker 1: I feel like you just have to even stop saying 12 00:00:44,864 --> 00:00:46,824 Speaker 1: that because you say it so many times an episode. 13 00:00:47,184 --> 00:00:49,304 Speaker 1: To be fair, When you told me what you wanted 14 00:00:49,344 --> 00:00:52,184 Speaker 1: to recommend this week, I went quiet for a minute, 15 00:00:52,224 --> 00:00:53,744 Speaker 1: and I think like I had a vacant look in 16 00:00:53,744 --> 00:00:56,264 Speaker 1: my eye. And it's because I was reading the rules 17 00:00:56,304 --> 00:00:59,024 Speaker 1: for Weekend Watch, of the rules for the episode, and 18 00:00:59,064 --> 00:01:00,744 Speaker 1: they exist in my head because I made them ump 19 00:01:00,784 --> 00:01:02,744 Speaker 1: so in my head, I was reading through them and 20 00:01:02,784 --> 00:01:04,624 Speaker 1: I decided to give you a pass because this came 21 00:01:04,664 --> 00:01:08,144 Speaker 1: out last Friday, so within a week. Okay, So that's 22 00:01:08,184 --> 00:01:09,864 Speaker 1: okay if it had come out on Thursday. 23 00:01:09,904 --> 00:01:12,864 Speaker 2: No interesting, interesting I'm feeling. 24 00:01:15,344 --> 00:01:15,424 Speaker 1: No. 25 00:01:15,504 --> 00:01:16,424 Speaker 2: It came out on Friday. 26 00:01:16,504 --> 00:01:18,144 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll stick to that story. 27 00:01:18,264 --> 00:01:21,504 Speaker 2: Okay, but before I get into my weekend watch, I 28 00:01:21,544 --> 00:01:23,064 Speaker 2: want to make a public apology. 29 00:01:23,504 --> 00:01:23,904 Speaker 1: Yeah. 30 00:01:23,944 --> 00:01:27,544 Speaker 2: My weekend watch last week was a Disney show called 31 00:01:27,744 --> 00:01:32,064 Speaker 2: Chad Powers, starring our friend Glenn Powell and I. It 32 00:01:32,104 --> 00:01:34,224 Speaker 2: was like, not an anti recommendation, but it was a 33 00:01:34,264 --> 00:01:37,424 Speaker 2: recommendation where I didn't think I did the show justice. 34 00:01:37,784 --> 00:01:40,224 Speaker 1: Well, you basically said that you liked the idea of it, 35 00:01:40,264 --> 00:01:42,304 Speaker 1: and you started watching it, and you liked it, but 36 00:01:42,344 --> 00:01:44,904 Speaker 1: it got worse as you went along. So you ended 37 00:01:44,944 --> 00:01:47,184 Speaker 1: your section of Weekend Watch by saying I don't know 38 00:01:47,184 --> 00:01:49,784 Speaker 1: if you guys should watch this, yeah, and that it 39 00:01:49,824 --> 00:01:50,944 Speaker 1: basically wasn't that great. 40 00:01:51,184 --> 00:01:53,264 Speaker 2: And now I've kept watching, and. 41 00:01:53,344 --> 00:01:54,264 Speaker 1: Oh you went back again. 42 00:01:54,784 --> 00:01:56,384 Speaker 2: I'm really enjoying it. 43 00:01:56,584 --> 00:01:58,904 Speaker 1: Okay, what changed? Because you'd watched a few episodes. 44 00:01:58,944 --> 00:02:01,984 Speaker 2: I watched the first episod okay, and they pull you in, 45 00:02:02,224 --> 00:02:03,704 Speaker 2: And the third episode came out, I was like, I 46 00:02:03,784 --> 00:02:04,824 Speaker 2: might as well watch this now. 47 00:02:04,944 --> 00:02:06,224 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, I'm in now and it was a 48 00:02:06,264 --> 00:02:09,304 Speaker 1: great episode. Is it just that the storylines picked. 49 00:02:09,144 --> 00:02:12,144 Speaker 2: Up or yeah, I feel like the characters have started 50 00:02:12,144 --> 00:02:14,064 Speaker 2: to find themselves more in the third. 51 00:02:13,864 --> 00:02:17,424 Speaker 1: Episode, and this is Glenn Power pretending to be yes Glen. 52 00:02:17,104 --> 00:02:22,304 Speaker 2: Powell playing this kind of ostracized jock named Russ Holiday 53 00:02:22,464 --> 00:02:24,904 Speaker 2: who was a bit of a dick, and so everyone 54 00:02:25,064 --> 00:02:27,944 Speaker 2: hated him and he kind of left football and left 55 00:02:27,944 --> 00:02:29,704 Speaker 2: Hollywood and all of that. And then he made this 56 00:02:29,744 --> 00:02:31,904 Speaker 2: alter ego named Chad Power so we could get back 57 00:02:31,984 --> 00:02:35,824 Speaker 2: into the NFL. And in the third episode he played 58 00:02:35,864 --> 00:02:36,784 Speaker 2: his first game. 59 00:02:37,104 --> 00:02:38,184 Speaker 1: Oh that's where it switched. 60 00:02:38,384 --> 00:02:40,824 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I think when they leant more 61 00:02:40,824 --> 00:02:43,224 Speaker 2: into the sports element, because it is meant to be 62 00:02:43,264 --> 00:02:45,824 Speaker 2: a sports comedy, it's gotten much much better. 63 00:02:45,944 --> 00:02:47,944 Speaker 1: Okay, And you felt you just had to address the 64 00:02:47,984 --> 00:02:49,904 Speaker 1: people because you couldn't want it. It's like when I 65 00:02:49,944 --> 00:02:51,944 Speaker 1: recommended How I Met your Father because I'd watched the 66 00:02:51,944 --> 00:02:54,184 Speaker 1: first episode and I had to come back two weeks 67 00:02:54,264 --> 00:02:56,184 Speaker 1: later and be like, guys, no, don't watch it's terrible. 68 00:02:56,224 --> 00:02:58,624 Speaker 1: I watched the rest of it. Yeah, so sometimes we 69 00:02:58,784 --> 00:03:01,064 Speaker 1: change our minds. But you've now given this show two 70 00:03:01,144 --> 00:03:02,984 Speaker 1: hits of publicity. So I hope Glenn p. 71 00:03:03,184 --> 00:03:05,104 Speaker 2: Is very this is not the show. 72 00:03:06,984 --> 00:03:08,784 Speaker 1: The show does not deserve to be. On two episodes, 73 00:03:08,904 --> 00:03:10,944 Speaker 1: there you are all right, what are you recommending? That 74 00:03:10,984 --> 00:03:12,024 Speaker 1: came out last Friday? 75 00:03:12,144 --> 00:03:19,344 Speaker 2: Okay, So the third season of the horror drama series 76 00:03:19,544 --> 00:03:23,784 Speaker 2: Monster came out on Friday. It's the ed Geen story. 77 00:03:24,464 --> 00:03:29,304 Speaker 2: Ed Gean was a grave robber, a murderer, an alleged 78 00:03:29,344 --> 00:03:32,664 Speaker 2: serial killer. It was like not legally proven that he 79 00:03:32,704 --> 00:03:34,984 Speaker 2: was a serial killer, so would still alleged serial killer. 80 00:03:35,384 --> 00:03:37,984 Speaker 2: He was known as the Butcher of Plainfield, which I 81 00:03:38,024 --> 00:03:41,184 Speaker 2: feel like is a very very scary title to have. 82 00:03:41,344 --> 00:03:42,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to hang out with that person. 83 00:03:45,824 --> 00:03:53,224 Speaker 1: There's something real dark about you. Eddie Keith, Eddie, You're 84 00:03:53,264 --> 00:04:00,624 Speaker 1: a mess. Only a mother could love you. Just feeler 85 00:04:00,664 --> 00:04:04,904 Speaker 1: became a puzzle. None of the pieces filled. 86 00:04:06,104 --> 00:04:10,824 Speaker 2: So the Monster series was created and directed by Ryan Murphy. 87 00:04:11,064 --> 00:04:14,104 Speaker 2: The first one was about Jeffrey Daarma, second one was 88 00:04:14,144 --> 00:04:16,744 Speaker 2: about them, and then there's brothers. A lot of criticism 89 00:04:16,784 --> 00:04:20,264 Speaker 2: for the series of like the over dramatization and also 90 00:04:20,344 --> 00:04:24,024 Speaker 2: the over sexualization of a lot of these like horrific 91 00:04:24,064 --> 00:04:24,904 Speaker 2: horrific stories. 92 00:04:24,984 --> 00:04:26,784 Speaker 1: Do you think about Ryan Murphy is like he loves 93 00:04:26,824 --> 00:04:30,864 Speaker 1: to tell a really twisted, horrific, bloody tale, Like he's 94 00:04:30,864 --> 00:04:34,264 Speaker 1: done that with American horror story for years, even American 95 00:04:34,304 --> 00:04:36,024 Speaker 1: crime story like to an extent, even though they are 96 00:04:36,064 --> 00:04:38,544 Speaker 1: more about like telling history in a different way. But 97 00:04:38,624 --> 00:04:41,464 Speaker 1: he also loves really hot people, and who could blame him? 98 00:04:41,504 --> 00:04:42,984 Speaker 1: We all do, we all do it. He is one 99 00:04:42,984 --> 00:04:44,944 Speaker 1: of the really hot people. Yeah, he's one of the girls. 100 00:04:44,944 --> 00:04:48,344 Speaker 1: He loves really hot people doing bloodthirsty things, and he 101 00:04:48,424 --> 00:04:51,624 Speaker 1: really leans into that with Monster. The difference is American 102 00:04:52,024 --> 00:04:55,984 Speaker 1: horror story is mostly fictionalized people, so it's okay to 103 00:04:56,024 --> 00:04:59,024 Speaker 1: watch someone kill someone and then have sexy times. Yeah, 104 00:04:59,104 --> 00:05:00,664 Speaker 1: the Smears is a bit feels a bit different. 105 00:05:00,704 --> 00:05:03,984 Speaker 2: It's a bit different. But also this third installation, Ryan 106 00:05:04,064 --> 00:05:07,224 Speaker 2: Murphy is not involved in. It's Ian Brennan, who I 107 00:05:07,304 --> 00:05:09,704 Speaker 2: think is used to be one of his co writers 108 00:05:09,904 --> 00:05:10,304 Speaker 2: Rhyme Murph. 109 00:05:10,424 --> 00:05:13,424 Speaker 1: He's busy making Kim Kadashi in so drama. 110 00:05:13,104 --> 00:05:16,144 Speaker 2: Okay, and this you can actually tell that Ryan Murphy 111 00:05:16,184 --> 00:05:18,424 Speaker 2: is not as involved in this one because it's actually 112 00:05:18,504 --> 00:05:22,104 Speaker 2: quite different. There's a lot of like meta commentary that's 113 00:05:22,104 --> 00:05:25,744 Speaker 2: happening about the ed Dean's story in general. First, I 114 00:05:25,744 --> 00:05:28,664 Speaker 2: should probably say Charlie Haunnen plays ed Gean. He's from 115 00:05:28,704 --> 00:05:31,024 Speaker 2: like Sons of Anarchy. He is so good looking. 116 00:05:31,264 --> 00:05:33,024 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so good. He does not look good in this, 117 00:05:33,264 --> 00:05:35,784 Speaker 1: well good do he shouldn't And also like he hasn't 118 00:05:35,824 --> 00:05:38,064 Speaker 1: not worked since Sons of Anarchy. But remember how we 119 00:05:38,064 --> 00:05:39,944 Speaker 1: did that King Arthur movie and that was he was 120 00:05:40,104 --> 00:05:41,624 Speaker 1: Everyone thought he was going to be the next big 121 00:05:41,704 --> 00:05:44,584 Speaker 1: blockbuster superstar and he dropped out of Fifty Shades of 122 00:05:44,584 --> 00:05:46,424 Speaker 1: Gray because he was meant to play like the lead 123 00:05:46,464 --> 00:05:48,344 Speaker 1: in that, And so I think he's been kind of 124 00:05:48,344 --> 00:05:51,624 Speaker 1: finding his footing. I don't love let's say he went 125 00:05:51,744 --> 00:05:53,744 Speaker 1: method for this role. He definitely didn't. So he did 126 00:05:53,784 --> 00:05:58,904 Speaker 1: not right now. He did not go police. He went 127 00:05:58,904 --> 00:06:01,304 Speaker 1: and sat near Ed's grave for hours and hours and 128 00:06:01,344 --> 00:06:03,504 Speaker 1: hours to like and like spend the day with him 129 00:06:03,584 --> 00:06:04,824 Speaker 1: in order to get in his head. 130 00:06:05,024 --> 00:06:05,864 Speaker 2: I like that. 131 00:06:06,024 --> 00:06:06,864 Speaker 1: I don't love that. 132 00:06:07,024 --> 00:06:08,144 Speaker 2: Don't love that for him. 133 00:06:08,304 --> 00:06:09,984 Speaker 1: I don't know if he just thought it'd be a 134 00:06:09,984 --> 00:06:11,944 Speaker 1: good story to tell doing incase you have to. 135 00:06:11,904 --> 00:06:14,264 Speaker 2: Do something, you have to like have a stick. But 136 00:06:14,344 --> 00:06:16,544 Speaker 2: he is excellent in this. But yeah, like I said, 137 00:06:16,584 --> 00:06:19,424 Speaker 2: there's a lot of meta commentary because Ed Gean he 138 00:06:19,704 --> 00:06:23,464 Speaker 2: is like so so infamous. His story, like all the 139 00:06:23,544 --> 00:06:26,664 Speaker 2: horrific things he did to people has been in inspiration 140 00:06:26,744 --> 00:06:30,184 Speaker 2: for so many like blockbuster hits like Psycho, like he's 141 00:06:30,224 --> 00:06:32,984 Speaker 2: the one who had that crazy relationship with his mother. Yes, 142 00:06:33,064 --> 00:06:33,424 Speaker 2: oh my god. 143 00:06:33,464 --> 00:06:36,104 Speaker 1: And also one of my favorite movies, Chainsaw Massacre, also 144 00:06:36,144 --> 00:06:39,864 Speaker 1: a great movie iteration the skins. 145 00:06:39,544 --> 00:06:41,904 Speaker 2: Of like the corpses, wear them and put them on 146 00:06:41,904 --> 00:06:42,264 Speaker 2: his leg. 147 00:06:42,424 --> 00:06:45,664 Speaker 1: That's what leather Face does in Chainswamer's Silence of the 148 00:06:45,744 --> 00:06:49,424 Speaker 1: Lambs because he was Yeah, it's great bit of light cannibalism, 149 00:06:49,504 --> 00:06:50,544 Speaker 1: little light cannibalism. 150 00:06:50,544 --> 00:06:52,664 Speaker 2: But so there's like a commentary on like how he's 151 00:06:52,704 --> 00:06:56,264 Speaker 2: influenced Hollywood and stuff alongside the story. I do want 152 00:06:56,264 --> 00:06:58,064 Speaker 2: to say, if you're a fan of horror, you will 153 00:06:58,104 --> 00:06:59,864 Speaker 2: love this. I had to switch off. 154 00:07:00,184 --> 00:07:02,024 Speaker 1: Well, no, not a fan of horror, because I'm a 155 00:07:02,104 --> 00:07:04,264 Speaker 1: huge fan of horror, but I don't watch these shows. 156 00:07:04,264 --> 00:07:06,224 Speaker 1: But I haven't watched this. Everything i'm learning about it, 157 00:07:06,264 --> 00:07:07,344 Speaker 1: i'm learning through. Yeah. 158 00:07:07,464 --> 00:07:10,264 Speaker 2: So the biggest difference I've noticed between seasons one and 159 00:07:10,344 --> 00:07:14,104 Speaker 2: two of Months, this one is way way, way more violent. 160 00:07:14,144 --> 00:07:15,944 Speaker 1: Again, I'm not judging people for doing this because heaps 161 00:07:15,944 --> 00:07:17,744 Speaker 1: of stuff that I watched I'm sure people wouldn't like. 162 00:07:17,984 --> 00:07:20,264 Speaker 1: But I just can never really get into a story 163 00:07:20,304 --> 00:07:22,744 Speaker 1: if I know it's really based on real people, Like 164 00:07:22,784 --> 00:07:25,264 Speaker 1: who does Allison Ray play one of the victims? Yeah, 165 00:07:25,464 --> 00:07:27,224 Speaker 1: and like that's a real person. I mean, our favorite 166 00:07:27,224 --> 00:07:29,224 Speaker 1: pop girl. I want to support her. I'll just play 167 00:07:29,264 --> 00:07:32,664 Speaker 1: Dive Pepsy like twenty more times to support her. But yeah, 168 00:07:32,664 --> 00:07:35,224 Speaker 1: I don't ever love like thinking about like that person. 169 00:07:35,424 --> 00:07:36,984 Speaker 1: I don't know personally, I would just hate it if 170 00:07:37,024 --> 00:07:38,984 Speaker 1: I was brutally murdered and then someone made a TV 171 00:07:39,024 --> 00:07:39,584 Speaker 1: show about me. 172 00:07:39,784 --> 00:07:42,224 Speaker 2: And also just well, the thing about this season is 173 00:07:42,264 --> 00:07:44,784 Speaker 2: like I feel like it doesn't really humanize him at all. 174 00:07:44,824 --> 00:07:45,144 Speaker 1: That's good. 175 00:07:45,344 --> 00:07:48,744 Speaker 2: I felt like Dama, like they really humanized. 176 00:07:48,704 --> 00:07:50,584 Speaker 1: For Evan Peters, Yeah during that. 177 00:07:50,744 --> 00:07:53,064 Speaker 2: And like you can't they made him sexy, Like you 178 00:07:53,144 --> 00:07:55,744 Speaker 2: can't make him sexy, I know, but I guess like 179 00:07:55,784 --> 00:07:57,744 Speaker 2: that's been and when then there's Brothers, and when that 180 00:07:57,784 --> 00:07:59,984 Speaker 2: came out at the same time as the documentary about them, 181 00:08:00,024 --> 00:08:02,024 Speaker 2: and then the Brothers came out, and there was like 182 00:08:02,064 --> 00:08:05,504 Speaker 2: such a dark difference between the story that the documentary 183 00:08:05,544 --> 00:08:07,784 Speaker 2: was telling versus a story that Ryan Murphy was telling. 184 00:08:07,864 --> 00:08:10,904 Speaker 2: I think they're like, yeah, you can't push it too 185 00:08:10,984 --> 00:08:12,384 Speaker 2: much when it's like a real story. 186 00:08:12,624 --> 00:08:15,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, And haven't they fictionalized a lot of this story 187 00:08:15,384 --> 00:08:15,904 Speaker 1: so much. 188 00:08:15,744 --> 00:08:20,024 Speaker 2: As dramatized like so so much, which is you should. 189 00:08:19,784 --> 00:08:21,064 Speaker 1: It's meant to be a TV show at the end 190 00:08:21,064 --> 00:08:22,824 Speaker 1: of the danger, and I think it's all sometimes even 191 00:08:22,824 --> 00:08:25,984 Speaker 1: more respectful to the people involved to fictionalize it. But 192 00:08:25,984 --> 00:08:28,144 Speaker 1: then also if you say it's based on a real story, 193 00:08:28,144 --> 00:08:29,864 Speaker 1: then people are gonna believe it's a real story, and 194 00:08:29,864 --> 00:08:31,024 Speaker 1: they gues it's not believing all of. 195 00:08:30,944 --> 00:08:32,904 Speaker 2: These I believed it, you believe then I had to 196 00:08:32,944 --> 00:08:34,424 Speaker 2: go on the Wikipedia page and be like, oh, that 197 00:08:34,464 --> 00:08:36,224 Speaker 2: was wrong. That was wrong. That was wrong, that was fake, 198 00:08:36,264 --> 00:08:36,824 Speaker 2: that was made up. 199 00:08:36,864 --> 00:08:38,664 Speaker 1: Okay, how much did you watch before you Chicken Down? 200 00:08:39,744 --> 00:08:41,264 Speaker 1: You like twenty seconds? No? 201 00:08:41,024 --> 00:08:44,824 Speaker 2: No, no, no no. There's like this one scene and 202 00:08:44,864 --> 00:08:47,304 Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil it because it's actually he 203 00:08:47,464 --> 00:08:50,624 Speaker 2: acts it so well. There's this one scene where he 204 00:08:50,704 --> 00:08:52,384 Speaker 2: kind of cause plays. 205 00:08:52,584 --> 00:08:53,344 Speaker 1: He wears the skin. 206 00:08:53,544 --> 00:08:55,704 Speaker 2: We know he does that, No, but it's like he 207 00:08:55,744 --> 00:09:00,944 Speaker 2: has he puts on this voice. Oh that scent shivers 208 00:09:01,064 --> 00:09:03,424 Speaker 2: down my spine, like he is an amazing actor, but 209 00:09:03,504 --> 00:09:06,864 Speaker 2: this voice, Like I couldn't stop thinking about it, and 210 00:09:06,944 --> 00:09:09,064 Speaker 2: then I was going to sleep that night. I couldn't 211 00:09:09,064 --> 00:09:12,184 Speaker 2: stop hearing that voice, and that's. 212 00:09:12,064 --> 00:09:13,504 Speaker 1: Not how you want to be thinking of Charlie before 213 00:09:13,504 --> 00:09:19,144 Speaker 1: you go to see He's so hot? Is crazy of that. 214 00:09:19,424 --> 00:09:22,224 Speaker 2: But yeah, if you're like that, like how I am, 215 00:09:22,264 --> 00:09:24,984 Speaker 2: this will be very, very scary for you. But it 216 00:09:25,064 --> 00:09:28,144 Speaker 2: is very interesting storytelling also, just like the intricacies and 217 00:09:28,184 --> 00:09:31,504 Speaker 2: the difference of like the creativity that Ian has compared 218 00:09:31,504 --> 00:09:34,344 Speaker 2: to Ryan is also so interesting to see. But yeah, 219 00:09:34,504 --> 00:09:37,224 Speaker 2: that's monsters. The ed Ganes story. 220 00:09:36,984 --> 00:09:39,264 Speaker 1: On Netflix, m if you're brave enough to watch it. 221 00:09:39,304 --> 00:09:42,904 Speaker 2: If you're brave enough, let me know what's yours. 222 00:09:42,984 --> 00:09:45,944 Speaker 1: Well, speaking of something else, that's a very enthralling watch 223 00:09:45,944 --> 00:09:47,424 Speaker 1: on You have to be brave to watch. You have 224 00:09:47,464 --> 00:09:50,464 Speaker 1: to be brave to watch. The Victoria Beckham documentary came 225 00:09:50,504 --> 00:09:58,824 Speaker 1: out last night. I have never forgotten where I come from. 226 00:09:58,824 --> 00:10:00,144 Speaker 1: Performing was my dream. 227 00:10:01,024 --> 00:10:02,904 Speaker 2: The Spice Girls made me accept. 228 00:10:02,584 --> 00:10:07,184 Speaker 1: Who I am, and then all of a sudden it stopped. 229 00:10:08,664 --> 00:10:10,104 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I don't want you to say too 230 00:10:10,184 --> 00:10:11,264 Speaker 2: much because I really want to watch it. 231 00:10:11,384 --> 00:10:13,504 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not going to spoil it's so funny because 232 00:10:13,544 --> 00:10:15,064 Speaker 1: I don't want to give spoilers. But it's also just 233 00:10:15,104 --> 00:10:15,984 Speaker 1: a history. 234 00:10:15,784 --> 00:10:18,504 Speaker 2: Especially now that I'm like an expert in the spicycles. 235 00:10:18,544 --> 00:10:20,224 Speaker 1: Oh my god. As I was watching it, I was 236 00:10:20,264 --> 00:10:23,384 Speaker 1: literally squealing of how much you would enjoy it because 237 00:10:23,424 --> 00:10:24,704 Speaker 1: now that you're you know what, I've. 238 00:10:24,584 --> 00:10:27,664 Speaker 2: Gone down in like deep deep rat holes the Spice 239 00:10:27,704 --> 00:10:28,224 Speaker 2: Girls like. 240 00:10:28,424 --> 00:10:30,344 Speaker 1: And also we've gotten so I've been watching. 241 00:10:30,064 --> 00:10:32,664 Speaker 2: Like clips of the concerts YouTube. 242 00:10:32,784 --> 00:10:34,464 Speaker 1: Oh, then you're gonna love the interviews. 243 00:10:34,544 --> 00:10:38,304 Speaker 2: And you're right. Melby was like the personality and all 244 00:10:38,344 --> 00:10:38,784 Speaker 2: the Internet. 245 00:10:39,144 --> 00:10:41,504 Speaker 1: She's the personality higher with and it's very clear that 246 00:10:41,504 --> 00:10:43,544 Speaker 1: that she was really good at that. And like when 247 00:10:43,624 --> 00:10:45,864 Speaker 1: Jerry left, I love your living this for the first 248 00:10:45,904 --> 00:10:47,144 Speaker 1: time twenty years later. 249 00:10:47,144 --> 00:10:50,824 Speaker 2: I like, I genuinely think like the world should have ended. 250 00:10:51,064 --> 00:10:52,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, well for some of us who did. So if 251 00:10:52,664 --> 00:10:55,064 Speaker 1: anyone's on across this story, we obviously knew the Victoria 252 00:10:55,104 --> 00:10:57,944 Speaker 1: Beckham documentary was coming out. It's a three part documentary 253 00:10:58,304 --> 00:11:00,304 Speaker 1: that is very different to the one that we had 254 00:11:00,344 --> 00:11:02,424 Speaker 1: with them a few years ago, where it was Victorian David. 255 00:11:02,464 --> 00:11:04,584 Speaker 1: It was also very much about his life, yeah, and 256 00:11:04,664 --> 00:11:08,224 Speaker 1: his career, where this is about her. It's about her childhood, 257 00:11:08,224 --> 00:11:10,464 Speaker 1: it's about her finding fame with the Spice Girls. 258 00:11:10,264 --> 00:11:13,344 Speaker 2: It's a big ad for her fashion to an extent. 259 00:11:13,064 --> 00:11:15,864 Speaker 1: It's chronicling this moment in time that's the lead up 260 00:11:15,864 --> 00:11:18,104 Speaker 1: to her putting on a show at Paris Fashion Week, 261 00:11:18,144 --> 00:11:21,584 Speaker 1: and in that time it shows flashbacks of like her 262 00:11:21,664 --> 00:11:23,864 Speaker 1: childhood and her life her and like David's in it 263 00:11:23,944 --> 00:11:26,624 Speaker 1: quite a bit talking about her, like her best friend 264 00:11:26,624 --> 00:11:29,264 Speaker 1: Evil Longoria's in it, Anna Winters in it. Her parents 265 00:11:29,264 --> 00:11:32,544 Speaker 1: get interviewed. So there's all of that. But okay, I 266 00:11:32,544 --> 00:11:34,464 Speaker 1: don't want to give too many spoilers, but just kind 267 00:11:34,464 --> 00:11:36,184 Speaker 1: of just giving a bit of background in case E've 268 00:11:36,184 --> 00:11:38,784 Speaker 1: got any new listeners here. We knew this documentary is 269 00:11:38,824 --> 00:11:40,704 Speaker 1: coming out, and we got very excited and we were 270 00:11:40,704 --> 00:11:43,344 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that a Victoria Beckham documentary was 271 00:11:43,344 --> 00:11:46,024 Speaker 1: coming and then you let's slip that you didn't really 272 00:11:46,104 --> 00:11:48,704 Speaker 1: know anything about the Spy s Girls, which I had. 273 00:11:48,704 --> 00:11:50,864 Speaker 2: To bring that up. I'm letting people. I got so 274 00:11:50,944 --> 00:11:51,944 Speaker 2: heavily trolled for that. 275 00:11:52,024 --> 00:11:53,944 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've never had so much by men. 276 00:11:54,104 --> 00:11:57,624 Speaker 2: I had men in my dms for the first time ever, going, 277 00:11:57,744 --> 00:11:59,824 Speaker 2: why do you pretend to be like this dumb little 278 00:11:59,864 --> 00:12:02,424 Speaker 2: baby doesn't know any Yeah, they're crazy. 279 00:12:02,304 --> 00:12:04,264 Speaker 1: Get crazy, men are crazy. Okay, I didn't know that 280 00:12:04,264 --> 00:12:06,584 Speaker 1: was happening to you, sorry either than just women being like, 281 00:12:06,704 --> 00:12:10,104 Speaker 1: learn about the spy Skirls, no history, don't you support feminism? So, 282 00:12:10,424 --> 00:12:13,304 Speaker 1: which ended with us doing an episode all about the 283 00:12:13,304 --> 00:12:15,384 Speaker 1: spy Skirls are briadly honest with you the Spies Girls, 284 00:12:15,384 --> 00:12:17,344 Speaker 1: which will link in the show notes because it was 285 00:12:17,384 --> 00:12:19,064 Speaker 1: one of the funniest episodes I've had done. 286 00:12:19,024 --> 00:12:20,824 Speaker 2: That is like mine now, like I think it's a 287 00:12:20,824 --> 00:12:24,584 Speaker 2: bug gladiator for me, which is also a great really 288 00:12:24,784 --> 00:12:26,464 Speaker 2: reveals well. 289 00:12:26,584 --> 00:12:29,624 Speaker 1: It just starts naming episodes now, But in that I 290 00:12:29,664 --> 00:12:32,024 Speaker 1: took Emily through some of the history of the Spy 291 00:12:32,064 --> 00:12:33,904 Speaker 1: Skulls and how they came together, and a bit of 292 00:12:33,904 --> 00:12:36,704 Speaker 1: that is in this new Victoria Beckham documentary because you 293 00:12:36,744 --> 00:12:39,424 Speaker 1: see a bit of her childhood and how It's kind 294 00:12:39,424 --> 00:12:41,224 Speaker 1: of interesting though because she does that thing that like 295 00:12:41,304 --> 00:12:43,824 Speaker 1: other celebrities like Megan Mark will do where they give 296 00:12:43,864 --> 00:12:46,504 Speaker 1: these interviews about being really ostracized in high school and 297 00:12:46,504 --> 00:12:48,184 Speaker 1: how there was such an ugly duckling and no one 298 00:12:48,224 --> 00:12:50,264 Speaker 1: loved them and all this sort of stuff, and then 299 00:12:50,624 --> 00:12:52,424 Speaker 1: which I'm sure is true, like you can be bullied 300 00:12:52,464 --> 00:12:54,464 Speaker 1: in high school and primary school and either way and 301 00:12:54,464 --> 00:12:56,464 Speaker 1: you can feel like an outsider of regardless of what 302 00:12:56,504 --> 00:12:58,824 Speaker 1: you look like. But it's just always interesting in these 303 00:12:59,024 --> 00:13:01,304 Speaker 1: documentaries where they say that to the camera and then 304 00:13:01,344 --> 00:13:03,224 Speaker 1: it cuts to them and it's this video of Victoria 305 00:13:03,304 --> 00:13:06,144 Speaker 1: performing for her class and this outfit. She's just so beautiful, 306 00:13:06,584 --> 00:13:09,064 Speaker 1: she's just so talented, and everyone's clapping and appording for her, 307 00:13:09,304 --> 00:13:11,184 Speaker 1: and it cuts back to her and she's like, yeah, 308 00:13:11,224 --> 00:13:13,504 Speaker 1: I was such an art cast and no one liked me. 309 00:13:14,304 --> 00:13:15,704 Speaker 1: I was like, you probably should have picked a different 310 00:13:15,704 --> 00:13:18,664 Speaker 1: clip then, But apart from that, it's super interesting. So 311 00:13:18,744 --> 00:13:21,544 Speaker 1: it chronicles her life, and it talks a bit about 312 00:13:21,544 --> 00:13:25,304 Speaker 1: the Spice Girl's Law, and they even show a clip 313 00:13:25,384 --> 00:13:28,064 Speaker 1: from Spice World, the movie, and they show one of 314 00:13:28,064 --> 00:13:30,824 Speaker 1: my very very favorite How did they get that footage? 315 00:13:30,864 --> 00:13:32,504 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know, because if you listen 316 00:13:32,544 --> 00:13:34,544 Speaker 1: to a Brially honest review, we were talking about Spice 317 00:13:34,544 --> 00:13:37,664 Speaker 1: Sold the movie. We can't find it anywhere. It's been 318 00:13:37,864 --> 00:13:40,424 Speaker 1: scrubbed from the intern it's been scrubbed from online. And 319 00:13:40,464 --> 00:13:43,424 Speaker 1: I've had so many spillers in my DM saying, Hey, Laura, 320 00:13:43,504 --> 00:13:45,984 Speaker 1: I've got the vhs. So I'm getting those messages. You 321 00:13:46,024 --> 00:13:48,184 Speaker 1: know what I'm not getting is messages saying I have 322 00:13:48,224 --> 00:13:50,384 Speaker 1: the VHS, I'm gonna fly to Sydney bring it to you, 323 00:13:50,384 --> 00:13:53,424 Speaker 1: and I'm going to bring a VHS player. Yeah I'm 324 00:13:53,424 --> 00:13:54,904 Speaker 1: not getting I'm getting a lot of messages. I'm not 325 00:13:54,904 --> 00:13:57,384 Speaker 1: getting a lot of action because I'm rubbing it. 326 00:13:58,224 --> 00:13:59,384 Speaker 2: See so many people have it. 327 00:13:59,424 --> 00:14:01,384 Speaker 1: But they show a clip from Spiceoil the movie, So 328 00:14:01,424 --> 00:14:04,184 Speaker 1: I was dying. They show Victoria's audition tape for the 329 00:14:04,224 --> 00:14:07,464 Speaker 1: Spice Girls, which I hadn't seen before, and why she 330 00:14:07,504 --> 00:14:09,544 Speaker 1: picked a completely different song to them, and so I 331 00:14:09,584 --> 00:14:11,664 Speaker 1: was dying over that. And she's really honest too, because 332 00:14:11,704 --> 00:14:13,784 Speaker 1: she's doing a lot of the interviews and she's talking 333 00:14:13,824 --> 00:14:16,424 Speaker 1: to camera and she talks about having an eating disorder, 334 00:14:16,664 --> 00:14:18,744 Speaker 1: which she hadn't really talked about in that way before. 335 00:14:19,224 --> 00:14:21,624 Speaker 1: She talked about kind of finding out she was pregnant 336 00:14:21,624 --> 00:14:23,544 Speaker 1: on the Spy Skulls tour and what was happening behind 337 00:14:23,544 --> 00:14:25,824 Speaker 1: the scenes, and she's really honest. At one stage, they're 338 00:14:25,824 --> 00:14:27,664 Speaker 1: showing all these photos of when she was, like in 339 00:14:27,664 --> 00:14:30,424 Speaker 1: her real wag era after the Spy Skulls had ended, 340 00:14:30,464 --> 00:14:33,384 Speaker 1: she hadn't started her business, and she talks about like 341 00:14:33,464 --> 00:14:35,944 Speaker 1: going to David's games, like moving to Spain moving to 342 00:14:36,064 --> 00:14:39,104 Speaker 1: America to kind of support him, and she was like 343 00:14:39,144 --> 00:14:41,304 Speaker 1: talking about how she picked her outfits and at the 344 00:14:41,344 --> 00:14:43,424 Speaker 1: time she's so like, not the Victoria Beckham we know 345 00:14:43,544 --> 00:14:46,024 Speaker 1: now that you know she's so chic now, and back 346 00:14:46,024 --> 00:14:48,904 Speaker 1: then she had like really long, thick blonde hair extensions, 347 00:14:49,184 --> 00:14:52,744 Speaker 1: huge fake boobs with like big sunglasses, like tiny short shorts, 348 00:14:52,784 --> 00:14:55,184 Speaker 1: little corset tops with like her fake boobs coming out 349 00:14:55,224 --> 00:14:58,704 Speaker 1: like so tanned, like almost like barbies. Yeah, which was 350 00:14:58,744 --> 00:15:00,344 Speaker 1: a whole look at the time, like she looked amazing. 351 00:15:00,624 --> 00:15:02,664 Speaker 1: But in the documentary she's like, yeah, I guess I 352 00:15:02,744 --> 00:15:04,344 Speaker 1: was like looking for attention, like I wanted to be 353 00:15:04,384 --> 00:15:06,784 Speaker 1: part of a conversation. And then she talks about building 354 00:15:06,784 --> 00:15:09,024 Speaker 1: the fashion brand and how no one believed in her 355 00:15:09,064 --> 00:15:10,224 Speaker 1: and like things that happened behind this. 356 00:15:10,704 --> 00:15:12,904 Speaker 2: Because she was like made fun of when she built 357 00:15:12,904 --> 00:15:13,424 Speaker 2: her fast. 358 00:15:13,344 --> 00:15:15,384 Speaker 1: Yeah, And when they bring Anna Wintour in to talk 359 00:15:15,424 --> 00:15:17,304 Speaker 1: about it, she was like, yeah, I thought she was 360 00:15:17,304 --> 00:15:18,864 Speaker 1: just a pop star with a hobby, Like I didn't 361 00:15:18,864 --> 00:15:21,304 Speaker 1: believe she's like so many she's like so many of 362 00:15:21,344 --> 00:15:24,704 Speaker 1: the me too. That sounds so fun, sounds so fun 363 00:15:25,104 --> 00:15:27,744 Speaker 1: with a hobby, it's a pop star and her hobby 364 00:15:27,784 --> 00:15:30,144 Speaker 1: is going to Italy. Yeah, oh no, but she's also 365 00:15:30,144 --> 00:15:32,584 Speaker 1: got a website and a podcast. Have you got on her? 366 00:15:32,584 --> 00:15:33,984 Speaker 2: But is that a hobby because I feel like she's 367 00:15:34,024 --> 00:15:34,784 Speaker 2: making bank on that. 368 00:15:34,904 --> 00:15:37,144 Speaker 1: Yeah she is. But she's like, it's called service ninety 369 00:15:37,144 --> 00:15:39,584 Speaker 1: five because she was so it's so cool in nineteen 370 00:15:39,624 --> 00:15:41,264 Speaker 1: ninety five, and she wants to be of service to 371 00:15:41,304 --> 00:15:42,704 Speaker 1: the world. And I was like, I don't know if 372 00:15:42,704 --> 00:15:44,304 Speaker 1: you need to be doing a website when you're one 373 00:15:44,304 --> 00:15:45,824 Speaker 1: of the bigest pop stars in the world. But she's 374 00:15:45,864 --> 00:15:48,464 Speaker 1: so and a podcast again famous he was doing podcasts. 375 00:15:48,504 --> 00:15:51,024 Speaker 1: I can't get behind it. But in the documentary, Yeah, 376 00:15:51,024 --> 00:15:52,904 Speaker 1: Anna Wintour comes on and she's got her glasses and 377 00:15:52,904 --> 00:15:55,424 Speaker 1: she's looking so chic, and she's talking about like, yeah 378 00:15:55,464 --> 00:15:57,384 Speaker 1: she was. She's like I knew her as a spice girl, 379 00:15:57,424 --> 00:15:59,664 Speaker 1: but she's like so many famous women in that world 380 00:15:59,664 --> 00:16:01,584 Speaker 1: try and come into our world and they can't do it, 381 00:16:01,864 --> 00:16:04,264 Speaker 1: and it's a hobby. And then Victoria talks about the 382 00:16:04,264 --> 00:16:06,224 Speaker 1: fact that she kept inviting Anna Wintur to come to 383 00:16:06,264 --> 00:16:08,864 Speaker 1: her shows and she would never come. Then she finally does, 384 00:16:08,904 --> 00:16:11,464 Speaker 1: and then so you're seeing all these flashbacks and you're 385 00:16:11,464 --> 00:16:13,824 Speaker 1: getting all this story about Victoria. At the same time, 386 00:16:13,904 --> 00:16:16,384 Speaker 1: the time is ticking for them to do this Paris 387 00:16:16,384 --> 00:16:20,144 Speaker 1: Fashion Week show and the designs aren't ready, and then 388 00:16:20,184 --> 00:16:23,024 Speaker 1: she's really worried about the reaction. And then they go 389 00:16:23,064 --> 00:16:25,584 Speaker 1: to like this mansion outside of Paris where they're having 390 00:16:25,624 --> 00:16:28,104 Speaker 1: the show, and it's just because it's been raining. It's flooded. 391 00:16:28,104 --> 00:16:31,184 Speaker 1: It's mud, it's dirt flooded, man, I know, and the 392 00:16:31,384 --> 00:16:33,504 Speaker 1: Paris like counsel won't land to bring gravel, and it's 393 00:16:33,544 --> 00:16:35,344 Speaker 1: the whole thing. I was very stressed for her watching it. 394 00:16:35,424 --> 00:16:39,144 Speaker 1: But it's so good. It's three episodes on Netflix. 395 00:16:39,224 --> 00:16:40,264 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. 396 00:16:40,664 --> 00:16:45,064 Speaker 1: The kids are in it. Oh my sep for one. Yeah, anyway, 397 00:16:45,344 --> 00:16:49,064 Speaker 1: I wants anything else. But you'll see it's Harper. She's 398 00:16:49,104 --> 00:16:51,624 Speaker 1: feuding with Harper teenage. 399 00:16:51,704 --> 00:16:53,264 Speaker 2: Because we're definitely going to be doing a really on 400 00:16:53,344 --> 00:16:54,104 Speaker 2: a trivia and I. 401 00:16:54,024 --> 00:16:55,304 Speaker 1: Think we have to because I have just I know, 402 00:16:55,344 --> 00:16:56,424 Speaker 1: it's not like a gay way a lot, but I 403 00:16:56,464 --> 00:16:58,704 Speaker 1: literally skimmed the surface, like all that stuff's like in 404 00:16:58,704 --> 00:17:01,304 Speaker 1: the first ten minutes the first episode, and then there's 405 00:17:01,344 --> 00:17:03,624 Speaker 1: three full episodes and yeah. 406 00:17:03,424 --> 00:17:05,104 Speaker 2: It's fascinating out right now. 407 00:17:05,264 --> 00:17:06,704 Speaker 1: It's out now on Netflix. 408 00:17:07,184 --> 00:17:09,504 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. Thank you so much for listening to 409 00:17:09,584 --> 00:17:12,104 Speaker 2: this episode of the Spill. We'll be back in your 410 00:17:12,144 --> 00:17:15,984 Speaker 2: ears at three pm today for a very special, brutally 411 00:17:16,104 --> 00:17:20,384 Speaker 2: honest review. We will see you then, Bye bye bye