1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 1: So you're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 3 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:20,584 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,304 --> 00:00:28,864 Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. 5 00:00:29,064 --> 00:00:31,544 Speaker 1: I'm m Burnham and I'm Cassenni Luki Tim. We've got 6 00:00:31,544 --> 00:00:32,544 Speaker 1: a special guest. 7 00:00:33,504 --> 00:00:38,224 Speaker 3: A special guest entertainment writer and head of social. 8 00:00:38,504 --> 00:00:41,144 Speaker 2: Is that you pop culture and social editor. We almost 9 00:00:41,144 --> 00:00:43,304 Speaker 2: got there, We almost did. Hi, I'm Tina Burke. 10 00:00:43,544 --> 00:00:46,904 Speaker 3: Tina Burke is in the house because on the show today, 11 00:00:47,104 --> 00:00:49,104 Speaker 3: we're doing week and watch a bit differently because my 12 00:00:49,264 --> 00:00:53,624 Speaker 3: weekend watch was suddenly interrupted by a very scandalous article 13 00:00:53,624 --> 00:00:56,184 Speaker 3: that went live on Mom and Mia. So my weekend 14 00:00:56,184 --> 00:00:57,944 Speaker 3: watch is going to involve a bit of a throwdown 15 00:00:58,184 --> 00:00:58,984 Speaker 3: with Tina Burke. 16 00:00:59,224 --> 00:01:02,864 Speaker 4: I'm going to be mediating because I haven't seen the 17 00:01:04,264 --> 00:01:06,304 Speaker 4: that you're talking about. But before we get into it, 18 00:01:06,344 --> 00:01:08,784 Speaker 4: we are going to go into a full Jurassic World 19 00:01:09,824 --> 00:01:11,104 Speaker 4: rundown between. 20 00:01:10,784 --> 00:01:11,184 Speaker 3: The two of you. 21 00:01:11,304 --> 00:01:13,864 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, But before we do that, I do just 22 00:01:13,904 --> 00:01:17,184 Speaker 4: want to kind of give a PSA to everybody about 23 00:01:17,504 --> 00:01:18,064 Speaker 4: too much. 24 00:01:18,424 --> 00:01:19,264 Speaker 3: What's too much? 25 00:01:20,344 --> 00:01:21,344 Speaker 1: We're all too much? 26 00:01:21,584 --> 00:01:22,464 Speaker 2: Okay? 27 00:01:22,544 --> 00:01:24,824 Speaker 1: Just something has shifted with you. 28 00:01:26,624 --> 00:01:30,664 Speaker 2: Josh Hi, how are you girl? Or you could you're unhappy? 29 00:01:30,944 --> 00:01:34,624 Speaker 2: Leave me me. It's the worst thing everyone's ever die. 30 00:01:35,704 --> 00:01:39,224 Speaker 1: Change your life. Go to London, seriously, you love London 31 00:01:39,784 --> 00:01:42,424 Speaker 1: us the Spice World nine times in the theater. 32 00:01:43,464 --> 00:01:45,744 Speaker 2: I could do it. I could go and find my 33 00:01:45,824 --> 00:01:46,424 Speaker 2: English dream. 34 00:01:46,744 --> 00:01:48,784 Speaker 1: You know, a state ground starting gardens. 35 00:01:49,544 --> 00:01:59,584 Speaker 4: Good luck with that. Love one of them. 36 00:02:01,864 --> 00:02:02,744 Speaker 2: You're the singing guy. 37 00:02:03,824 --> 00:02:05,584 Speaker 3: By the way, You've got like an American accent. 38 00:02:05,664 --> 00:02:08,624 Speaker 1: Right, let me guess you like one of those love Actually, girls. 39 00:02:09,944 --> 00:02:12,784 Speaker 2: This is London. I came here for I out of 40 00:02:12,784 --> 00:02:13,264 Speaker 2: a movie. 41 00:02:13,344 --> 00:02:14,304 Speaker 3: Yeah, horror movie. 42 00:02:14,504 --> 00:02:17,064 Speaker 1: These people are full of pent uprage and dark secrets. 43 00:02:17,184 --> 00:02:22,224 Speaker 2: I know. Would look at the Yellow House. I came 44 00:02:22,264 --> 00:02:25,144 Speaker 2: here to find myself. A lot of stuff went down 45 00:02:25,144 --> 00:02:27,544 Speaker 2: in New York. My ex boyfriend is living with another 46 00:02:27,584 --> 00:02:32,024 Speaker 2: woman right now. Yeah, I want you to cut their 47 00:02:32,064 --> 00:02:33,344 Speaker 2: heads off and sew them back on. 48 00:02:34,424 --> 00:02:35,904 Speaker 1: Looking in a big blue eyes. 49 00:02:36,464 --> 00:02:37,704 Speaker 2: Is he who he says he is? 50 00:02:38,824 --> 00:02:40,064 Speaker 1: This is all just man here. 51 00:02:40,104 --> 00:02:40,904 Speaker 3: He's of red flex. 52 00:02:41,424 --> 00:02:42,824 Speaker 2: You think you're so special. 53 00:02:42,984 --> 00:02:44,864 Speaker 5: I get that it's hard for you, but like it's 54 00:02:44,864 --> 00:02:45,944 Speaker 5: hard for fucking everyone. 55 00:02:46,024 --> 00:02:48,384 Speaker 2: Okay, I wanted to be in bed with like a 56 00:02:48,464 --> 00:02:50,304 Speaker 2: few grant from the British Jones Diaries. 57 00:02:50,464 --> 00:02:53,304 Speaker 1: Would you say British Jones Now there's four of them. Yeah, 58 00:02:53,304 --> 00:02:58,144 Speaker 1: it's not cooled. British Jones's British so too much? Is 59 00:02:58,184 --> 00:03:00,424 Speaker 1: the new Netflix series by Lena Dunna. 60 00:03:00,664 --> 00:03:02,264 Speaker 3: Yes, I am very very excited about this. 61 00:03:02,344 --> 00:03:03,824 Speaker 4: Okay, So there's been a lot of chat about this. 62 00:03:03,984 --> 00:03:07,184 Speaker 4: It's going to air on the tenth of July on Netflix. 63 00:03:07,664 --> 00:03:09,984 Speaker 4: This is kind of basically just me showing off. Oh wy, 64 00:03:10,344 --> 00:03:11,144 Speaker 4: I've already seen it. 65 00:03:11,224 --> 00:03:12,144 Speaker 3: You've already seen it. 66 00:03:12,504 --> 00:03:14,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm not like to say whether it's good 67 00:03:14,664 --> 00:03:16,104 Speaker 1: or bad. I have already seen it. 68 00:03:16,184 --> 00:03:19,544 Speaker 4: There's embargo, but it was created by Lena Dunham and 69 00:03:19,744 --> 00:03:23,304 Speaker 4: Lewis Felber. It is executive produced by Lena Dunham. So 70 00:03:23,384 --> 00:03:24,424 Speaker 4: if you were a fan of. 71 00:03:24,424 --> 00:03:26,744 Speaker 3: Girls, which both of us were. 72 00:03:26,704 --> 00:03:30,744 Speaker 4: Which was you know, Lena Dunham's coming of a coming 73 00:03:30,744 --> 00:03:33,384 Speaker 4: of age story, Yeah, it's kind of got that same vibe. 74 00:03:33,424 --> 00:03:35,984 Speaker 4: So basically New York Jessica starts a new life in 75 00:03:36,024 --> 00:03:39,344 Speaker 4: London after a disastrous breakup and finds a new connection 76 00:03:39,584 --> 00:03:40,624 Speaker 4: with Felix. 77 00:03:40,984 --> 00:03:43,424 Speaker 3: I am so so excited. What's the guy who plays 78 00:03:43,464 --> 00:03:44,024 Speaker 3: Will Sharp? 79 00:03:44,144 --> 00:03:46,704 Speaker 2: And he Will Sharp, Will Sharp plays baback. 80 00:03:46,824 --> 00:03:50,384 Speaker 3: Yes, Will Sharp is the hottest. 81 00:03:49,984 --> 00:03:51,984 Speaker 4: Person for saying that he's in and he's wearing like 82 00:03:52,024 --> 00:03:54,384 Speaker 4: bright orange lipstick and it really that. 83 00:03:54,304 --> 00:03:57,864 Speaker 3: Would give me pick But then afterwards, okay, okay, okay, 84 00:03:57,904 --> 00:03:58,864 Speaker 3: but it was just the orange. 85 00:03:58,864 --> 00:04:02,304 Speaker 4: It was like the orange lipstick that kind of it 86 00:04:02,504 --> 00:04:04,824 Speaker 4: wasn't for me. And then he got hotter. So too 87 00:04:04,904 --> 00:04:07,464 Speaker 4: Much is going to be airing on Netflix on the 88 00:04:07,584 --> 00:04:08,504 Speaker 4: tenth of July. 89 00:04:09,224 --> 00:04:11,304 Speaker 3: I'm so excited. I reckon, we should do a bradly 90 00:04:11,344 --> 00:04:11,864 Speaker 3: honest review. 91 00:04:12,064 --> 00:04:13,184 Speaker 1: I think we will too. 92 00:04:13,424 --> 00:04:15,344 Speaker 3: I think we will, and then maybe have a throwdown 93 00:04:15,384 --> 00:04:16,664 Speaker 3: with Taina. 94 00:04:18,824 --> 00:04:22,064 Speaker 1: This would be a medical breakthrough that could save countless lives. 95 00:04:23,024 --> 00:04:25,344 Speaker 1: It comes from the largest dinosaurs on the planet. 96 00:04:25,464 --> 00:04:26,344 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 97 00:04:27,384 --> 00:04:31,944 Speaker 2: Fortunately for us, all these species exist in one isolated place. 98 00:04:32,784 --> 00:04:33,744 Speaker 3: Can you do ready tomorrow? 99 00:04:38,144 --> 00:04:38,704 Speaker 2: He's your guy. 100 00:04:39,024 --> 00:04:42,184 Speaker 1: We're the best that moving things and people and then 101 00:04:42,184 --> 00:04:43,304 Speaker 1: out of places they shouldn't be. 102 00:04:44,784 --> 00:04:47,704 Speaker 3: Loop up towards Barbados avoid government patrol. 103 00:04:47,784 --> 00:04:53,584 Speaker 2: But there aren't that many anymore, mysach. No one's dumb 104 00:04:53,704 --> 00:04:57,024 Speaker 2: enough to go where we're going. 105 00:04:57,184 --> 00:05:01,104 Speaker 4: This island was the research facility for the original glastic park. 106 00:05:02,944 --> 00:05:05,504 Speaker 5: We need DNA from the three biggest dinosaurs. 107 00:05:06,424 --> 00:05:10,504 Speaker 2: Do we have to get a sample from an egg day? 108 00:05:10,504 --> 00:05:11,904 Speaker 5: Suppose we couldry and get it from the parent, but 109 00:05:11,904 --> 00:05:13,744 Speaker 5: they're flying Carnival the F sixteen. 110 00:05:15,544 --> 00:05:17,144 Speaker 1: Should we go into Jurassic World? 111 00:05:17,544 --> 00:05:17,984 Speaker 3: Should we? 112 00:05:18,064 --> 00:05:20,064 Speaker 2: Tina, I don't know that I'm ready to. 113 00:05:20,264 --> 00:05:22,704 Speaker 3: Are you sure you didn't just like the film because 114 00:05:22,744 --> 00:05:24,904 Speaker 3: you left your umbrella in the cinema. 115 00:05:25,144 --> 00:05:28,264 Speaker 2: That's played a part because I was so flabbergasted and 116 00:05:29,704 --> 00:05:32,944 Speaker 2: was into like the Sydney storms by the way, this 117 00:05:32,984 --> 00:05:34,904 Speaker 2: is the day where like it was like flooding and 118 00:05:34,984 --> 00:05:37,704 Speaker 2: like crazy winds. So like this movie like stole my 119 00:05:37,744 --> 00:05:40,104 Speaker 2: time in my life, but like also my umbrella. 120 00:05:40,184 --> 00:05:43,264 Speaker 4: There's nothing worse than losing a good umbrella. So upsetting 121 00:05:43,344 --> 00:05:44,864 Speaker 4: you guys went to the premiere this week? 122 00:05:44,904 --> 00:05:47,504 Speaker 3: Yes, we were very, very lucky, the two of us, 123 00:05:47,584 --> 00:05:49,704 Speaker 3: and I hate that we didn't sit next to each 124 00:05:49,704 --> 00:05:51,464 Speaker 3: other because this has been so much funny if we 125 00:05:51,464 --> 00:05:53,784 Speaker 3: were sitting next to each other. But the two of us, 126 00:05:53,824 --> 00:05:57,864 Speaker 3: as well as other mummy people, including Laura Brodnick, went 127 00:05:57,984 --> 00:06:02,144 Speaker 3: to go see Jurassic World. What's the slogan for it? 128 00:06:02,224 --> 00:06:03,064 Speaker 3: Jerassic World? 129 00:06:03,224 --> 00:06:03,984 Speaker 2: Like, what's it called? 130 00:06:04,064 --> 00:06:10,104 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jurassic World Rebirth, Jurassic World Rebirth. Yeah, so Jurassic 131 00:06:10,144 --> 00:06:12,624 Speaker 3: World World Rebirth. And if you've been a longtime listener 132 00:06:12,624 --> 00:06:14,504 Speaker 3: of this bill, you know that I really suck at 133 00:06:14,504 --> 00:06:17,704 Speaker 3: explaining movies and TV shows. I'm going to do my best. 134 00:06:17,864 --> 00:06:22,464 Speaker 3: But basically, Jurassic World Rebirth has a massive, massive cast. 135 00:06:22,624 --> 00:06:25,144 Speaker 2: Huge cast, like crazy Hollywood talent. 136 00:06:25,224 --> 00:06:26,744 Speaker 3: Who was your favorite in the whole cast? 137 00:06:27,384 --> 00:06:31,784 Speaker 2: My favorite before or after I saw the movie? Great cast, 138 00:06:31,784 --> 00:06:36,024 Speaker 2: so obviously Scyletjnsen, Jonathan Bailey, Mahershla Ali like Oscar Winner 139 00:06:36,384 --> 00:06:39,304 Speaker 2: report friend, like amazing cast, really great, I was. I 140 00:06:39,464 --> 00:06:41,624 Speaker 2: was excited to see Marsheler. Yeah, I was pumped for. 141 00:06:41,584 --> 00:06:43,824 Speaker 3: That and so brand new cast compared to the rest 142 00:06:43,824 --> 00:06:47,384 Speaker 3: of the Jurassic World franchise. No one in Jurassic Park. 143 00:06:48,024 --> 00:06:51,944 Speaker 1: But it's a prequel right in the No, it's not 144 00:06:51,984 --> 00:06:52,584 Speaker 1: a prequel. 145 00:06:52,824 --> 00:06:54,504 Speaker 2: It's a sequel to the sequel. 146 00:06:54,664 --> 00:06:55,784 Speaker 3: It's a sequel to the sequel. 147 00:06:55,784 --> 00:06:57,224 Speaker 1: So I thought it was a prequel. I thought it 148 00:06:57,264 --> 00:06:58,984 Speaker 1: was set before Jurassic Park. 149 00:06:59,184 --> 00:07:03,824 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no no. So Jurassic World takes 150 00:07:03,864 --> 00:07:07,584 Speaker 3: place and during Jurassic World, there were some scientists on 151 00:07:07,624 --> 00:07:10,664 Speaker 3: a remote island who decided to expare a meant what 152 00:07:10,704 --> 00:07:14,424 Speaker 3: some of the dinosaurs do some cross breeding. So this 153 00:07:14,544 --> 00:07:18,424 Speaker 3: Jurassic World takes place around thirty years. 154 00:07:18,104 --> 00:07:21,664 Speaker 2: After the last, after the first, after the first. Yeah, 155 00:07:21,704 --> 00:07:23,624 Speaker 2: it's a really weird timeline. So you're kind of right in. 156 00:07:23,624 --> 00:07:26,544 Speaker 2: There's a there's an element of prequel because the opening 157 00:07:26,584 --> 00:07:31,104 Speaker 2: scene is set before Jurassic World, Yes, which is Chris 158 00:07:31,224 --> 00:07:34,104 Speaker 2: Pratt Jurassic World. So this is the fourth Jurassic World, 159 00:07:34,184 --> 00:07:36,824 Speaker 2: but the opening scene is set a few years before 160 00:07:37,344 --> 00:07:39,544 Speaker 2: the Jurassic World with Chris Pratt. Yeah, and then it's 161 00:07:39,544 --> 00:07:42,464 Speaker 2: also taking place after the last Jurassic World, Yeah, also 162 00:07:42,504 --> 00:07:43,304 Speaker 2: had Chris Pratt. 163 00:07:43,384 --> 00:07:46,144 Speaker 1: So it starts off with but there's no Chris Pratt. 164 00:07:46,184 --> 00:07:48,224 Speaker 2: But there is no Chris Pratt. And I never thought 165 00:07:48,264 --> 00:07:50,264 Speaker 2: i'd say it, but we maybe needed because. 166 00:07:50,024 --> 00:07:53,144 Speaker 3: We maybe needed a Chris Pratt like character. But basically 167 00:07:53,264 --> 00:07:55,344 Speaker 3: it starts off with like this big explanation like where 168 00:07:55,344 --> 00:07:58,224 Speaker 3: it's taking place, and that all the dinosaurs have been 169 00:07:58,264 --> 00:08:00,144 Speaker 3: released but kind of misplaced. 170 00:08:00,264 --> 00:08:02,104 Speaker 2: I guess they're just like hanging out in the middle 171 00:08:02,144 --> 00:08:02,264 Speaker 2: of that. 172 00:08:02,464 --> 00:08:04,224 Speaker 3: They all need the warm weather, right, So all the 173 00:08:04,264 --> 00:08:07,584 Speaker 3: dinosaurs are located on the equator and including on that 174 00:08:07,624 --> 00:08:11,704 Speaker 3: equator of dinosaurs is where like these experiment mental crossbreed 175 00:08:11,744 --> 00:08:13,704 Speaker 3: dinosaurs are also living. 176 00:08:13,984 --> 00:08:17,384 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so where is this throwdown going to start? Tina? 177 00:08:17,384 --> 00:08:19,504 Speaker 4: Should we start with you on what were your main 178 00:08:19,624 --> 00:08:21,064 Speaker 4: gripes with the movie. 179 00:08:21,584 --> 00:08:23,664 Speaker 2: I had so many gripes. I had more gripes than 180 00:08:23,784 --> 00:08:23,984 Speaker 2: I think. 181 00:08:24,024 --> 00:08:26,104 Speaker 3: That's not a single non gripe. 182 00:08:26,264 --> 00:08:28,104 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I had all the gripes you could have. 183 00:08:28,504 --> 00:08:31,024 Speaker 2: But like you and I are very big Jurassic Park fans, 184 00:08:31,024 --> 00:08:33,024 Speaker 2: we were really excited about this. I also really loved 185 00:08:33,104 --> 00:08:35,184 Speaker 2: Jurassic World, even the last one, which was like just 186 00:08:35,224 --> 00:08:36,744 Speaker 2: about bugs, and I still had fun. 187 00:08:37,064 --> 00:08:39,504 Speaker 3: So our number one movie on our letter box. 188 00:08:39,584 --> 00:08:41,384 Speaker 2: Yes, it is our biggest movie. And I really went 189 00:08:41,424 --> 00:08:43,824 Speaker 2: in thinking like I'm gonna love this. And then the 190 00:08:43,824 --> 00:08:46,504 Speaker 2: opening scene happened and I was sitting next to Laura Brodnick, 191 00:08:46,544 --> 00:08:48,504 Speaker 2: and I like annoy her so much because I turned 192 00:08:48,504 --> 00:08:49,944 Speaker 2: to her and like slapped her. I was like, yeah, 193 00:08:50,024 --> 00:08:52,824 Speaker 2: this is great, and like the opening scene, I was like, yeah, 194 00:08:52,864 --> 00:08:56,624 Speaker 2: classic Jurassic really loving this, and then the movie started 195 00:08:57,024 --> 00:08:59,824 Speaker 2: and I just kept waiting to love it, like all 196 00:08:59,824 --> 00:09:01,984 Speaker 2: movie long. I was like, any minute now, I'm gonna 197 00:09:02,024 --> 00:09:03,704 Speaker 2: I'm going to turn around, I'm going to disagree with 198 00:09:03,704 --> 00:09:05,304 Speaker 2: the critics, and I'm gonna have a great time. But 199 00:09:05,464 --> 00:09:07,064 Speaker 2: I did not at any. 200 00:09:06,824 --> 00:09:09,784 Speaker 1: Point in time gripe number one. 201 00:09:09,864 --> 00:09:12,864 Speaker 2: Grip number one. Okay, so they actually filmed on location 202 00:09:12,984 --> 00:09:16,184 Speaker 2: in Thailand. Yeah, so obviously for any big Jurassic heads 203 00:09:16,184 --> 00:09:18,384 Speaker 2: out there, like me and m Vernham, the Originals were 204 00:09:18,424 --> 00:09:20,664 Speaker 2: mostly shot in Hawaii, but then this one they went 205 00:09:20,704 --> 00:09:23,544 Speaker 2: to Thailand, and so they like filmed on location. There's 206 00:09:23,584 --> 00:09:25,664 Speaker 2: really great set picks of all the actors, and yet 207 00:09:25,784 --> 00:09:27,984 Speaker 2: the entire thing you felt like you were like looking 208 00:09:27,984 --> 00:09:30,704 Speaker 2: at a green screen like this was like a Hollywood backlot, 209 00:09:30,744 --> 00:09:32,144 Speaker 2: is how I felt the whole time. And I think 210 00:09:32,144 --> 00:09:34,704 Speaker 2: that was a bit of a combination of like maybe 211 00:09:34,744 --> 00:09:37,464 Speaker 2: the CGI and the special effects and the color grating, 212 00:09:37,584 --> 00:09:40,184 Speaker 2: like something about every scene did not look real to me. 213 00:09:40,264 --> 00:09:43,344 Speaker 3: Because I actually really liked the film as a whole. 214 00:09:43,504 --> 00:09:47,984 Speaker 3: It was not my favorite Jurassic Park slash Jurassic World 215 00:09:48,064 --> 00:09:50,544 Speaker 3: film out of all them, was probably my least favorite, 216 00:09:50,784 --> 00:09:52,784 Speaker 3: but I still liked it because like all the films 217 00:09:52,784 --> 00:09:54,504 Speaker 3: are like up there for me, and this one was 218 00:09:54,504 --> 00:09:56,864 Speaker 3: like mid for me. Okay, So I still liked it. 219 00:09:56,904 --> 00:09:59,264 Speaker 3: Amongst other things I have watched. That's why I'm worth 220 00:09:59,304 --> 00:10:01,904 Speaker 3: the watch. That's why we can watch, because it is 221 00:10:01,944 --> 00:10:05,664 Speaker 3: my recommendation. But because Tina had such a visceral reaction 222 00:10:05,824 --> 00:10:07,944 Speaker 3: to the entire film, I was like, I have to 223 00:10:07,984 --> 00:10:10,904 Speaker 3: include your point of view because I I don't want 224 00:10:10,904 --> 00:10:13,304 Speaker 3: to tell everyone go watch this film, you'll love it. 225 00:10:13,384 --> 00:10:15,464 Speaker 3: But I think it's more go watch this film and 226 00:10:15,584 --> 00:10:16,464 Speaker 3: let me know who. 227 00:10:16,984 --> 00:10:18,984 Speaker 2: Yeh see who sided? You're arm Yes, like I thought 228 00:10:18,984 --> 00:10:20,944 Speaker 2: I would love it, and I just I've never hated 229 00:10:20,944 --> 00:10:22,944 Speaker 2: something so much, and normally I would still find it 230 00:10:23,024 --> 00:10:24,704 Speaker 2: good in a project and be like, go see it 231 00:10:24,744 --> 00:10:25,224 Speaker 2: make ater. 232 00:10:25,904 --> 00:10:26,464 Speaker 3: I've look. 233 00:10:26,544 --> 00:10:29,104 Speaker 4: I haven't seen the film yet, but I did see 234 00:10:29,104 --> 00:10:30,664 Speaker 4: a lot of the press tool because the press stow 235 00:10:30,704 --> 00:10:35,824 Speaker 4: has been amazing. Jonathan Bailey playing clarinet with the orchestra 236 00:10:36,424 --> 00:10:39,104 Speaker 4: like this cute little band. Have you seen that clip? 237 00:10:39,144 --> 00:10:41,064 Speaker 4: It's like my face. I've watched it like ten times. 238 00:10:41,064 --> 00:10:41,944 Speaker 1: It was so cute. 239 00:10:42,224 --> 00:10:44,744 Speaker 5: I've played in an orchestra when I was eating. If 240 00:10:44,784 --> 00:10:46,984 Speaker 5: you could have told me at that age that one 241 00:10:47,064 --> 00:10:49,184 Speaker 5: day there was an opportunity to play with one hundred 242 00:10:49,224 --> 00:10:52,464 Speaker 5: and five piece orchestra at Abbey Road with Alexander Lesplank, 243 00:10:52,544 --> 00:10:56,224 Speaker 5: conducting both the John Williams score and also his own 244 00:10:56,264 --> 00:10:59,544 Speaker 5: incredible original score. Now it's not quite Brilliana, And. 245 00:10:59,504 --> 00:11:02,344 Speaker 3: There's this very beautiful moment when the carry for Brea 246 00:11:02,464 --> 00:11:05,624 Speaker 3: by Chat and Bailey put his hand on one of 247 00:11:05,664 --> 00:11:20,824 Speaker 3: these Daniosaurus for the first time. You hear when it 248 00:11:20,904 --> 00:11:23,904 Speaker 3: comes in the movie as well. So Jonathan Bailey is 249 00:11:23,904 --> 00:11:24,784 Speaker 3: a clarinet player. 250 00:11:24,864 --> 00:11:26,624 Speaker 2: I guess I suppose I. 251 00:11:26,544 --> 00:11:29,744 Speaker 3: Think they thought it was did you you do give clarinet? 252 00:11:29,824 --> 00:11:32,104 Speaker 2: VI UNJB should made up and play together. 253 00:11:32,944 --> 00:11:34,984 Speaker 4: I do not remember how to play clarinet at all. 254 00:11:35,024 --> 00:11:36,984 Speaker 4: I only played it in primary school. But yes I 255 00:11:36,984 --> 00:11:39,224 Speaker 4: did play clarinet. So when he was doing it in 256 00:11:39,264 --> 00:11:42,224 Speaker 4: the actual full orchestra, I was in a band like 257 00:11:42,304 --> 00:11:44,184 Speaker 4: band practice with kumba buns and stuff. 258 00:11:44,224 --> 00:11:45,744 Speaker 3: And I have a feeling he would have because the 259 00:11:45,784 --> 00:11:48,144 Speaker 3: music is John Williams. So I have a feeling that 260 00:11:48,464 --> 00:11:50,344 Speaker 3: the way he was playing it on that like little 261 00:11:50,344 --> 00:11:53,104 Speaker 3: social clip of him playing clarinet, you could tell that 262 00:11:53,144 --> 00:11:56,384 Speaker 3: he was hitting something deep. But this is a theme 263 00:11:56,464 --> 00:11:59,144 Speaker 3: like music that you would have played in school, So 264 00:11:59,424 --> 00:12:01,344 Speaker 3: he very much in what he was doing, and he 265 00:12:01,424 --> 00:12:04,504 Speaker 3: played that piece for his own theme in the movie. 266 00:12:04,864 --> 00:12:08,904 Speaker 3: There's a scene in particular that's actually quite wholesome and nice. 267 00:12:09,184 --> 00:12:12,024 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that you do hear the theme come out, 268 00:12:12,064 --> 00:12:13,544 Speaker 3: so you do the kind of when. 269 00:12:15,264 --> 00:12:17,664 Speaker 2: And it is he does a phenomenal job. Macgrife is 270 00:12:17,664 --> 00:12:20,224 Speaker 2: not with Jonathan Bailey or his clarinet playing. What is 271 00:12:20,264 --> 00:12:21,024 Speaker 2: it with emotions? 272 00:12:21,064 --> 00:12:21,984 Speaker 3: Is it with his accent? 273 00:12:22,664 --> 00:12:24,144 Speaker 2: It is a little bit like just let the man 274 00:12:24,184 --> 00:12:26,384 Speaker 2: be British, Like he's not charming when he tries to 275 00:12:26,384 --> 00:12:28,584 Speaker 2: be American, and like just let him be hot and British. 276 00:12:28,624 --> 00:12:31,184 Speaker 2: But no, it's with the dinosaurs. 277 00:12:31,304 --> 00:12:34,184 Speaker 3: With the dinosaurs, I will say that what was disappointing 278 00:12:34,384 --> 00:12:38,864 Speaker 3: for me was I was interested in the storyline of 279 00:12:39,064 --> 00:12:42,904 Speaker 3: the crossbred dinosaurs because they did also alert to that 280 00:12:42,984 --> 00:12:45,824 Speaker 3: a bit. In the previous Jurassic World movies, you did 281 00:12:45,864 --> 00:12:48,504 Speaker 3: see them trying to make the scariest and the toughest 282 00:12:48,504 --> 00:12:51,384 Speaker 3: dinosaur because the t Rex isn't scary and tough enough. 283 00:12:51,864 --> 00:12:54,904 Speaker 3: But with this one, it was like all. 284 00:12:54,784 --> 00:12:56,224 Speaker 2: The dinosaurs were a bit off. 285 00:12:56,664 --> 00:12:59,104 Speaker 3: And I think because I leaned so hard, they had 286 00:12:59,144 --> 00:13:01,744 Speaker 3: to lean so hard into the CGI of that, because 287 00:13:02,264 --> 00:13:04,824 Speaker 3: you first have to make CGI dinosaurs, but then you 288 00:13:04,864 --> 00:13:08,064 Speaker 3: have to make CGI crossbread dinosaurs that the whole thing 289 00:13:08,304 --> 00:13:10,944 Speaker 3: just looks CGI. And I remember you were reminded me 290 00:13:11,104 --> 00:13:14,064 Speaker 3: that the original Jurassic Park films weren't CGI. 291 00:13:14,344 --> 00:13:15,984 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was a mix of like they made 292 00:13:16,064 --> 00:13:18,704 Speaker 2: these massive animatronics and like there's all these amazing photos 293 00:13:18,704 --> 00:13:20,424 Speaker 2: from the set of the original with like the real 294 00:13:20,464 --> 00:13:22,864 Speaker 2: people and the scale of them to these fake dinosaurs 295 00:13:22,904 --> 00:13:26,344 Speaker 2: is massive. The t Rex was like this huge animatronic, 296 00:13:26,384 --> 00:13:28,184 Speaker 2: and then they added special effects on top, so it 297 00:13:28,224 --> 00:13:30,864 Speaker 2: was like very state of the art. And even Jurassic World, 298 00:13:30,864 --> 00:13:33,024 Speaker 2: where you know it's special effects and CGI, it still 299 00:13:33,104 --> 00:13:35,544 Speaker 2: feels like scary and you still feel like you're in 300 00:13:35,544 --> 00:13:38,184 Speaker 2: that world. But then something about this really like they 301 00:13:38,184 --> 00:13:40,064 Speaker 2: tried to lean a little bit into horror, and like 302 00:13:40,104 --> 00:13:42,144 Speaker 2: the monsters kind of came out looking a bit stranger 303 00:13:42,224 --> 00:13:45,144 Speaker 2: things but not good, and it just took it out a. 304 00:13:45,144 --> 00:13:48,544 Speaker 3: Little bit very like yeah, alieny and Yeah. I think 305 00:13:48,704 --> 00:13:52,264 Speaker 3: what the other Jurassic Park and Jurassic World movies did 306 00:13:52,304 --> 00:13:57,264 Speaker 3: really well is that you kind of know the dinosaurs, 307 00:13:57,304 --> 00:13:59,744 Speaker 3: and the dinosaurs, you know, are either like your friends 308 00:13:59,904 --> 00:14:02,824 Speaker 3: or they're like final boss and with this movie, it 309 00:14:02,864 --> 00:14:05,784 Speaker 3: was just like five final bosses it. 310 00:14:05,864 --> 00:14:08,224 Speaker 2: Just like they just kept coming from different places, and 311 00:14:08,264 --> 00:14:09,224 Speaker 2: I was like, who if anyone? 312 00:14:10,344 --> 00:14:13,544 Speaker 3: It's also mean, it's so scary, and we know from 313 00:14:13,624 --> 00:14:15,424 Speaker 3: Jurassic Park that not all dinosaurs. 314 00:14:15,464 --> 00:14:16,304 Speaker 2: I mean it's scary. 315 00:14:16,744 --> 00:14:18,824 Speaker 1: Not The one clip I've seen is he's got the 316 00:14:19,024 --> 00:14:20,904 Speaker 1: brontosaurs and he's patting. 317 00:14:20,544 --> 00:14:23,544 Speaker 2: The less not even a brontosaurus. It's a weird They're 318 00:14:23,544 --> 00:14:26,104 Speaker 2: all so weird. I do think that's part of it, 319 00:14:26,144 --> 00:14:28,744 Speaker 2: is like like you said, like in the kind of 320 00:14:28,824 --> 00:14:31,144 Speaker 2: lead up Jurassic World films, there's this running thing of like, 321 00:14:31,184 --> 00:14:33,784 Speaker 2: you know, dinosaurs aren't fun anymore, They're not exciting anymore. 322 00:14:33,824 --> 00:14:36,064 Speaker 2: So like in this fictional world, humans have grown sick 323 00:14:36,104 --> 00:14:38,624 Speaker 2: of them. But like you've now given us a movie 324 00:14:38,864 --> 00:14:41,024 Speaker 2: where you didn't give us any dinosaurs, and I didn't 325 00:14:41,104 --> 00:14:43,224 Speaker 2: like it, Like you kind of fulfilled out yourselves by 326 00:14:43,224 --> 00:14:45,544 Speaker 2: being like humans would be sick of the raptors and 327 00:14:45,544 --> 00:14:47,904 Speaker 2: then you like didn't give me a raptor in a 328 00:14:47,984 --> 00:14:51,664 Speaker 2: Jurassic World movie. I didn't see one, Like what, I 329 00:14:51,744 --> 00:14:52,104 Speaker 2: was mad? 330 00:14:52,264 --> 00:14:55,944 Speaker 3: You were mad. There was one scene though that I 331 00:14:56,024 --> 00:14:58,304 Speaker 3: really enjoyed, and it was the t Rex scene. 332 00:14:58,424 --> 00:15:00,504 Speaker 2: I have feelings, okay, because can I just say, can 333 00:15:00,544 --> 00:15:01,104 Speaker 2: I just say? 334 00:15:01,304 --> 00:15:03,544 Speaker 3: And I am so happy I did this. It made 335 00:15:03,584 --> 00:15:06,784 Speaker 3: me feel so smart and put together, like I'm going 336 00:15:06,864 --> 00:15:08,824 Speaker 3: to be riding this high for the rest of my life. 337 00:15:08,944 --> 00:15:10,864 Speaker 3: But before we went into the city, them up, but 338 00:15:10,864 --> 00:15:13,584 Speaker 3: our producer Mons was definitely there, and I said, I 339 00:15:13,664 --> 00:15:17,264 Speaker 3: watched this Walking with Dinosaurs documentary that was like narrated 340 00:15:17,304 --> 00:15:20,344 Speaker 3: by David Abra And one of the things that people 341 00:15:20,384 --> 00:15:23,704 Speaker 3: don't know is that t rexis could actually swim, like 342 00:15:23,704 --> 00:15:26,064 Speaker 3: they would swim from Ireland to Ireland, and they can 343 00:15:26,104 --> 00:15:28,464 Speaker 3: hold their breath and they can swim. And I was like, 344 00:15:28,464 --> 00:15:29,984 Speaker 3: it would have been cool if like we had a 345 00:15:30,024 --> 00:15:33,424 Speaker 3: dressic Park movie where we saw that, and we saw. 346 00:15:33,224 --> 00:15:35,264 Speaker 2: That, and we did see that, and they give away 347 00:15:35,264 --> 00:15:37,664 Speaker 2: a lot in the trailer, so we're not doing spoilers. Yeah, 348 00:15:38,424 --> 00:15:40,784 Speaker 2: incredible scene. That was probably the best scene in the film. 349 00:15:41,104 --> 00:15:41,504 Speaker 3: So good. 350 00:15:41,544 --> 00:15:43,104 Speaker 2: But I think it was a good example of where 351 00:15:43,104 --> 00:15:45,424 Speaker 2: they tried to like go horror at times and then 352 00:15:45,464 --> 00:15:47,504 Speaker 2: like suddenly they were doing a family friendly film. 353 00:15:47,704 --> 00:15:48,064 Speaker 3: Yeah. 354 00:15:48,104 --> 00:15:50,304 Speaker 2: Like I was never actually worried anyone was going to 355 00:15:50,344 --> 00:15:52,984 Speaker 2: get chomped up. I think I was never really thinking, 356 00:15:53,104 --> 00:15:55,224 Speaker 2: like you who's going to die? You knew who was 357 00:15:55,264 --> 00:15:56,624 Speaker 2: going to die. You knew how they were going to 358 00:15:56,704 --> 00:15:58,464 Speaker 2: die and you were not surprised. 359 00:15:58,784 --> 00:16:01,344 Speaker 3: Yeah, all, Like, yeah, you could guess right from the 360 00:16:01,384 --> 00:16:04,064 Speaker 3: beginning film. There's about like ten characters. You know exactly 361 00:16:04,104 --> 00:16:05,584 Speaker 3: which ones are going to be gone. 362 00:16:07,304 --> 00:16:09,984 Speaker 4: Okay, So in terms of a weekend watch, this is 363 00:16:10,064 --> 00:16:12,584 Speaker 4: very different for us. But it's almost like one of 364 00:16:12,624 --> 00:16:14,584 Speaker 4: those movies that you have to go see for yourself. 365 00:16:14,664 --> 00:16:16,704 Speaker 4: You still should go see this movie in the cinema. 366 00:16:16,744 --> 00:16:17,464 Speaker 2: So I get. 367 00:16:17,544 --> 00:16:19,544 Speaker 3: I thought it was the scariest one out of all 368 00:16:19,584 --> 00:16:21,944 Speaker 3: of them. Like, it's not like creepy scary, like the 369 00:16:22,024 --> 00:16:24,464 Speaker 3: stalk orrish behavior we saw with the other Durassic plucks. 370 00:16:24,464 --> 00:16:27,064 Speaker 3: It's very like jump scary scary, which is my worst 371 00:16:27,064 --> 00:16:29,824 Speaker 3: type of scary. Because I feel like exactly what you said. 372 00:16:29,824 --> 00:16:31,584 Speaker 3: I'm not sure who they were trying to market this 373 00:16:31,664 --> 00:16:35,384 Speaker 3: film too, whether it's for like families with like young kids, 374 00:16:35,584 --> 00:16:38,624 Speaker 3: or whether it's for die hard Jurassic Park fans not Tina, 375 00:16:39,024 --> 00:16:42,104 Speaker 3: not me, But I found it quite scary, and I 376 00:16:42,184 --> 00:16:44,304 Speaker 3: was telling all the girls I'm on me that if 377 00:16:44,304 --> 00:16:46,464 Speaker 3: you have kids, like I did, find it scary. 378 00:16:46,584 --> 00:16:48,864 Speaker 2: I don't think a child no sa film, no, not 379 00:16:48,944 --> 00:16:51,344 Speaker 2: at all. But then they also like went really childish 380 00:16:51,384 --> 00:16:52,784 Speaker 2: in some parts, So it's very strange. 381 00:16:52,824 --> 00:16:55,104 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very Maybe there could be like a different cut, 382 00:16:55,464 --> 00:16:56,264 Speaker 3: Maybe we should. 383 00:16:56,064 --> 00:16:57,824 Speaker 2: Maybe we should make a cut. I would love to 384 00:16:57,864 --> 00:17:02,024 Speaker 2: see them. I want the raw footage, the raw I 385 00:17:02,024 --> 00:17:03,984 Speaker 2: want to see what I could have made myself, because like, 386 00:17:04,024 --> 00:17:06,144 Speaker 2: they spent one hundred and eighty million dollars on this thing, 387 00:17:06,224 --> 00:17:08,464 Speaker 2: and I just feel like it they like rushed and 388 00:17:08,504 --> 00:17:10,144 Speaker 2: produced out something that didn't make the most. 389 00:17:10,344 --> 00:17:11,784 Speaker 3: It's just like one thing that you feel like they 390 00:17:11,824 --> 00:17:13,944 Speaker 3: could have done to make it better for you. 391 00:17:14,184 --> 00:17:16,944 Speaker 2: For me, I think they tried to jam too many 392 00:17:17,344 --> 00:17:19,624 Speaker 2: niche Like a few critics have said that it's like 393 00:17:19,624 --> 00:17:21,424 Speaker 2: a love letter to Fielberg, And there were a lot 394 00:17:21,464 --> 00:17:24,504 Speaker 2: of obviously you would recognize like little references here and there, 395 00:17:24,544 --> 00:17:26,384 Speaker 2: and like scenes that they tried to put in to 396 00:17:26,424 --> 00:17:28,984 Speaker 2: be like ah, remember this, like remember this moment, and 397 00:17:29,024 --> 00:17:30,344 Speaker 2: it just was too much. Like it would have been 398 00:17:30,424 --> 00:17:32,624 Speaker 2: nice to see them do some like authentic things that 399 00:17:32,784 --> 00:17:35,424 Speaker 2: fell new, like I think the Jurassic World with Chris Pratt. 400 00:17:35,424 --> 00:17:37,824 Speaker 2: There were just so many things that we didn't expect. Yeah, 401 00:17:37,824 --> 00:17:40,224 Speaker 2: because like we've never seen this type of world before, 402 00:17:40,264 --> 00:17:41,984 Speaker 2: and so it did really just feel like it was 403 00:17:41,984 --> 00:17:44,784 Speaker 2: trying to copy the original but with scary different types 404 00:17:44,784 --> 00:17:47,824 Speaker 2: of dinosaurs, yeah, rather than give us something new. But 405 00:17:47,944 --> 00:17:51,544 Speaker 2: like I think the plot maybe there's one scene where 406 00:17:51,584 --> 00:17:54,424 Speaker 2: they're on the boat and they try to bring in 407 00:17:54,464 --> 00:17:57,304 Speaker 2: like a backstory for Scarlet Johnson and herscheler Ali, and 408 00:17:57,464 --> 00:18:00,904 Speaker 2: like suddenly we're sad and we have this backstory and 409 00:18:00,984 --> 00:18:02,744 Speaker 2: you can tell the only reason that it's in there 410 00:18:02,784 --> 00:18:04,224 Speaker 2: is so that later on there's going to be a 411 00:18:04,264 --> 00:18:06,024 Speaker 2: scene and you're going to watch that scene and you're 412 00:18:06,064 --> 00:18:08,224 Speaker 2: going to go, oh, that was his motivation. 413 00:18:08,304 --> 00:18:10,064 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's why Chekhov's gone. 414 00:18:10,824 --> 00:18:12,664 Speaker 2: That's why n made this decision. 415 00:18:12,784 --> 00:18:15,464 Speaker 3: Also just plays Black Widow. 416 00:18:15,624 --> 00:18:15,984 Speaker 2: She does. 417 00:18:16,024 --> 00:18:18,424 Speaker 3: That's her whole character. So if you miss Black Widow 418 00:18:18,544 --> 00:18:19,904 Speaker 3: as a Marvel fan, you'll get. 419 00:18:19,824 --> 00:18:22,384 Speaker 2: Her in this film. See this film. She's back. 420 00:18:22,544 --> 00:18:24,144 Speaker 3: I will say that this film, though, out of all 421 00:18:24,184 --> 00:18:27,424 Speaker 3: of them, in my opinion, felt the most adventurous, like 422 00:18:27,664 --> 00:18:29,544 Speaker 3: they were on a big adventurer where all the other 423 00:18:29,624 --> 00:18:32,024 Speaker 3: films took place either in the park or at like 424 00:18:32,344 --> 00:18:36,504 Speaker 3: a manor I'm pretty sure one of them so they 425 00:18:36,544 --> 00:18:38,384 Speaker 3: stick to one, okay, but this one just like a 426 00:18:38,464 --> 00:18:41,624 Speaker 3: lot of traveling. Like you get ocean dinosaurs, you get 427 00:18:41,704 --> 00:18:43,664 Speaker 3: land dinosaurs, you get sky dinosaurs. 428 00:18:43,744 --> 00:18:48,384 Speaker 4: Okay, because you're right, is it's everything's usually like a 429 00:18:48,464 --> 00:18:49,664 Speaker 4: Latin island. 430 00:18:49,464 --> 00:18:51,784 Speaker 3: Yeah, but this one it's like they're going everywhere. 431 00:18:52,984 --> 00:18:56,224 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is an adventure. The New York part was fun. Yeah, 432 00:18:56,264 --> 00:18:56,864 Speaker 2: I had a good time. 433 00:18:57,024 --> 00:18:59,664 Speaker 3: Tina took an adventure right out of cinema. 434 00:19:00,784 --> 00:19:02,744 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's out now in cinemas. 435 00:19:03,064 --> 00:19:05,784 Speaker 3: Yes, it's out now in cinemas. I want everyone to 436 00:19:05,864 --> 00:19:08,344 Speaker 3: watch it and let us know who you agree with. 437 00:19:08,504 --> 00:19:10,824 Speaker 3: I feel like we ended up being having the same opinion. 438 00:19:10,904 --> 00:19:12,944 Speaker 2: We had a similar vibe. Like the thing is I 439 00:19:13,104 --> 00:19:15,064 Speaker 2: wanted to love this year is so bad and I 440 00:19:15,104 --> 00:19:16,664 Speaker 2: actually want people to go see it so they can 441 00:19:16,744 --> 00:19:18,624 Speaker 2: make another one and they can go back to their budget. 442 00:19:18,864 --> 00:19:21,704 Speaker 3: And I think that's also the pitfall of the franchise, 443 00:19:21,864 --> 00:19:24,104 Speaker 3: right as It's like if this was a standalone movie, 444 00:19:24,264 --> 00:19:26,304 Speaker 3: I think it would have been like great. 445 00:19:26,464 --> 00:19:29,184 Speaker 2: You could have taken this cast, this vibe and just 446 00:19:29,264 --> 00:19:31,344 Speaker 2: like it could have been out of space. Yeah, like yeah, 447 00:19:31,424 --> 00:19:34,104 Speaker 2: this wasn't a Jurassic movie. It was just a movie. 448 00:19:35,384 --> 00:19:37,744 Speaker 2: It could have been fine, but not as part of 449 00:19:37,784 --> 00:19:40,024 Speaker 2: the franchise with like that weight of expectation. 450 00:19:40,384 --> 00:19:42,184 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Spillers, give it a watch. Let us 451 00:19:42,224 --> 00:19:44,224 Speaker 3: know what you think you can dm us on the 452 00:19:44,304 --> 00:19:46,584 Speaker 3: Spill podcast. Let us know whose side you're on. I 453 00:19:46,624 --> 00:19:48,584 Speaker 3: feel like everyone's gonna be anteen onside because. 454 00:19:48,384 --> 00:19:50,624 Speaker 2: I'm scared no one will be. People at work loved it. 455 00:19:50,864 --> 00:19:52,224 Speaker 2: One of the girls said it was the best movie 456 00:19:52,264 --> 00:19:52,944 Speaker 2: she's seen all year. 457 00:19:53,664 --> 00:19:54,304 Speaker 5: She said. 458 00:19:54,384 --> 00:19:55,864 Speaker 2: I actually didn't speak to her for the rest of 459 00:19:55,904 --> 00:19:58,864 Speaker 2: the day. I can't sorry too much. 460 00:19:59,464 --> 00:20:01,584 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to The Spill today. 461 00:20:01,624 --> 00:20:03,424 Speaker 3: If you love listening to us, make sure you follow 462 00:20:03,504 --> 00:20:06,424 Speaker 3: us on TikTok at the Spill podcast. MoMA mea Studio 463 00:20:06,504 --> 00:20:08,744 Speaker 3: is a style of furniture from Fentin and Fentin. Visit 464 00:20:08,824 --> 00:20:11,224 Speaker 3: Fentin and Fentin dot com. 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