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Speaker 1: for fashion. Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the

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Speaker 1: podcast that solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tamara Holland and each week we talk about all beings,

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Speaker 1: adding to our wardrobes. This week I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a very exciting return guest. It's the one and only

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Speaker 1: Grace Lamb. She is a fashion powerhouse. She is a

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Speaker 1: She is our force of fashion. She's also a fountain

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Speaker 1: hosts of Mama Mer's brand new podcast, Unleashed, which is

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Speaker 1: a podcast for women of the gen X persuasion. It's

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Speaker 1: So we're very excited that that show has just rolled out.

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Speaker 1: But today Grace and I are going to be talking

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Speaker 1: about Valentine's Day, and I know not everyone celebrates Valentine's

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Speaker 1: that is really where Grace shines. So I'm welcoming Grace

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. I am such a big

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Speaker 2: Thank you for inviting me again. I'm surprised you inviting

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Speaker 2: I mean a girl like Hopling. You know, I love

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Speaker 1: So that's where you like to invest your money. Exactly,

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Speaker 1: exactly beautiful and okay, talk to us about is there

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Speaker 2: Very cute, loads of cute choices. I think people find

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Speaker 1: So red is such like a cliche Valentine's state color.

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Speaker 2: What I find myself doing is that I would just

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Speaker 2: kitten heel cute. Always for socks, even in a summer,

434
00:20:05,674 --> 00:20:09,273
Speaker 2: I would suffer for fashion. I will have athlete foods

435
00:20:09,274 --> 00:20:13,154
Speaker 2: because of that. Socks elevate and so much. I can't

436
00:20:13,154 --> 00:20:16,114
Speaker 2: stress that enough because even if you wear something all

437
00:20:16,114 --> 00:20:18,914
Speaker 2: black and you have a bright part of yellow socks,

438
00:20:18,994 --> 00:20:21,234
Speaker 2: it just pops out with a yellow back or good

439
00:20:21,274 --> 00:20:21,513
Speaker 2: to go.

440
00:20:30,914 --> 00:20:32,874
Speaker 1: You've mentioned a few times that you you know when

441
00:20:32,874 --> 00:20:34,754
Speaker 1: you go into women's wardrobes, and I know that you're

442
00:20:34,794 --> 00:20:38,194
Speaker 1: offering you offer personalized styling services for women with different

443
00:20:38,234 --> 00:20:41,714
Speaker 1: lifestyles and different needs. But what does that actually look like?

444
00:20:41,794 --> 00:20:43,874
Speaker 1: If I booked you to come in, come to my

445
00:20:43,954 --> 00:20:46,634
Speaker 1: house and come into my wardrobe, what is the process

446
00:20:46,674 --> 00:20:47,754
Speaker 1: from there? How does it work?

447
00:20:47,794 --> 00:20:50,234
Speaker 2: So normally I will ask my client, you know, please

448
00:20:50,274 --> 00:20:52,274
Speaker 2: put aside things that you don't know how to wear

449
00:20:52,354 --> 00:20:55,434
Speaker 2: and you don't wear anymore, because we need to tackle

450
00:20:55,474 --> 00:20:57,794
Speaker 2: those things that you always wear. Of course I'll look

451
00:20:57,794 --> 00:21:00,674
Speaker 2: at it, but those are not the problem. The problem

452
00:21:00,714 --> 00:21:02,754
Speaker 2: is things that you don't wear and you don't know

453
00:21:02,794 --> 00:21:05,594
Speaker 2: how to put it together. Okay, So I will do

454
00:21:05,634 --> 00:21:07,954
Speaker 2: that first, and then I will go in and just

455
00:21:08,034 --> 00:21:10,154
Speaker 2: kind of sus out straight because you know, everyone I meet,

456
00:21:10,234 --> 00:21:12,634
Speaker 2: I don't really know them right, so within the first

457
00:21:12,954 --> 00:21:14,914
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen minutes, I need to suck them out.

458
00:21:15,474 --> 00:21:15,754
Speaker 3: I mean.

459
00:21:15,794 --> 00:21:18,554
Speaker 2: It's kind of stressful, but also the same time really

460
00:21:18,594 --> 00:21:21,554
Speaker 2: fun because it's so interesting to look at people's wardrobe.

461
00:21:21,674 --> 00:21:24,434
Speaker 2: And then I'm quite blunt, as you can tell, so

462
00:21:24,474 --> 00:21:26,914
Speaker 2: i'd be like, what the fuck are you thinking? Been?

463
00:21:27,114 --> 00:21:30,074
Speaker 2: You know, stuff like that, and they sometimes get so

464
00:21:30,194 --> 00:21:33,994
Speaker 2: horrified or they go, oh, yeah, I see what you're saying.

465
00:21:34,154 --> 00:21:34,674
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

466
00:21:34,714 --> 00:21:36,954
Speaker 2: So when they have that moment, that ding moment I

467
00:21:36,994 --> 00:21:39,434
Speaker 2: call it, it makes me so happy when they start

468
00:21:39,474 --> 00:21:44,994
Speaker 2: realizing that the creativity opens up, and it's so fun

469
00:21:45,034 --> 00:21:48,594
Speaker 2: to watch. And I think going through people's wardrobe, I

470
00:21:48,634 --> 00:21:52,034
Speaker 2: don't really encourage buying straight away. I really like the

471
00:21:52,074 --> 00:21:55,834
Speaker 2: sustainable fashion ethos. But at the same time, who doesn't

472
00:21:55,914 --> 00:21:59,514
Speaker 2: like to have new things? So I also encourage my clients.

473
00:21:59,514 --> 00:22:01,634
Speaker 2: Oh are you so you have to fill out a

474
00:22:01,714 --> 00:22:04,754
Speaker 2: questionnaire when you book me whether you are willing to

475
00:22:04,794 --> 00:22:07,234
Speaker 2: go pre love or not, because some people don't. Mean

476
00:22:07,314 --> 00:22:10,994
Speaker 2: my Chinese mother, bless her, she will never buy anything

477
00:22:10,994 --> 00:22:14,154
Speaker 2: secondhand because a ghost is in the top.

478
00:22:14,394 --> 00:22:16,954
Speaker 1: Clothing holds energy, doesn't it, And some people might be

479
00:22:17,034 --> 00:22:17,994
Speaker 1: less comfortable with that.

480
00:22:18,114 --> 00:22:21,594
Speaker 2: I suppose yes, And you know Chinese people were very suspstitious. Yeah,

481
00:22:21,594 --> 00:22:24,714
Speaker 2: but I'm like, ma, that's like a vintage, like you know,

482
00:22:24,754 --> 00:22:26,114
Speaker 2: a liar. What are you talking about it?

483
00:22:26,834 --> 00:22:28,594
Speaker 1: And yeah, cop the ghost, it's a liar.

484
00:22:28,794 --> 00:22:29,714
Speaker 2: She doesn't understand.

485
00:22:29,754 --> 00:22:31,914
Speaker 1: But okay, So, whether we're buying you or or we're

486
00:22:31,914 --> 00:22:35,354
Speaker 1: buying secondhand, we're still introducing new styles to our wardrobes.

487
00:22:35,394 --> 00:22:37,714
Speaker 1: So do you like to go shopping with them or

488
00:22:37,754 --> 00:22:39,834
Speaker 1: shopping for them? Or do you take them along? Do

489
00:22:39,874 --> 00:22:41,394
Speaker 1: you like do they get in the change room and

490
00:22:41,434 --> 00:22:42,874
Speaker 1: try things on in front of you? How does that?

491
00:22:42,914 --> 00:22:45,034
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I always say

492
00:22:45,034 --> 00:22:46,354
Speaker 2: to them, they get a bitch. I'm like, you've got tis,

493
00:22:46,434 --> 00:22:48,714
Speaker 2: I've got tis, I've got Pronini, it's fine, we're all

494
00:22:48,714 --> 00:22:51,954
Speaker 2: the same. Let's open up. Otherwise relationship is going to

495
00:22:51,994 --> 00:22:55,674
Speaker 2: and soon, you know. So they I love going shopping

496
00:22:55,714 --> 00:22:57,594
Speaker 2: with them because I get to hang out with them.

497
00:22:57,674 --> 00:23:00,074
Speaker 2: And hopefully these are return clients, right, I need to

498
00:23:00,074 --> 00:23:00,754
Speaker 2: get to know them.

499
00:23:00,954 --> 00:23:01,513
Speaker 1: Yeah.

500
00:23:01,554 --> 00:23:04,194
Speaker 2: And for example, we're going to a shop, and I

501
00:23:04,194 --> 00:23:06,313
Speaker 2: would tell them, please go and pick up what you

502
00:23:06,354 --> 00:23:08,354
Speaker 2: normally pick up because I need to understand you. So

503
00:23:08,394 --> 00:23:13,273
Speaker 2: I had one client who's a professional, very I wouldn't

504
00:23:13,274 --> 00:23:16,593
Speaker 2: want to call her boring, but very safe. How she

505
00:23:16,714 --> 00:23:20,754
Speaker 2: dresses like conservative, very conservative. And then and I'm quite

506
00:23:20,754 --> 00:23:23,354
Speaker 2: surprised she found me because she was like, I want

507
00:23:23,394 --> 00:23:25,033
Speaker 2: to change everything, you know. I look at your Instagram

508
00:23:25,034 --> 00:23:27,674
Speaker 2: blah blah. So then when we went to the shop,

509
00:23:27,714 --> 00:23:30,834
Speaker 2: she said, oh, I thought, the reason I hire you

510
00:23:30,914 --> 00:23:32,754
Speaker 2: so you can pick up stuff for me. I'm like, yes,

511
00:23:33,074 --> 00:23:35,154
Speaker 2: at the same time, I need to understand you. I

512
00:23:35,194 --> 00:23:36,754
Speaker 2: need to get to know you. How am I going

513
00:23:36,834 --> 00:23:38,354
Speaker 2: to know you if you don't pick up things. I

514
00:23:38,834 --> 00:23:39,874
Speaker 2: just see what you pick normally.

515
00:23:39,954 --> 00:23:42,434
Speaker 1: And I suppose there's no point you just picking for her,

516
00:23:42,474 --> 00:23:44,793
Speaker 1: because then they might not necessarily be the things that

517
00:23:44,834 --> 00:23:46,954
Speaker 1: she would reach for in her own wardrobe. If she's

518
00:23:46,994 --> 00:23:50,114
Speaker 1: got discomfort around them or doesn't understand why she would

519
00:23:50,114 --> 00:23:51,994
Speaker 1: wear those things, you need to kind of guide her,

520
00:23:52,034 --> 00:23:55,554
Speaker 1: and that starts with her showing you where she gravitates towards.

521
00:23:55,834 --> 00:23:56,074
Speaker 3: Right.

522
00:23:56,834 --> 00:24:00,634
Speaker 1: You're someone who's always experimenting with your own looks and

523
00:24:00,674 --> 00:24:03,394
Speaker 1: that comes really naturally to you. Obviously you're always adding

524
00:24:03,434 --> 00:24:05,513
Speaker 1: interesting things to your wardrobe. You were saying you were

525
00:24:05,554 --> 00:24:07,354
Speaker 1: just in Japan and we had a little power while

526
00:24:07,394 --> 00:24:08,833
Speaker 1: before our chat, and you said, you bought a lot

527
00:24:08,874 --> 00:24:11,714
Speaker 1: of stuff over there. What are some key pieces that

528
00:24:11,794 --> 00:24:13,553
Speaker 1: you're particularly loving at the moment.

529
00:24:14,314 --> 00:24:18,594
Speaker 2: When I went to Tokyo, I deliberately didn't buy anything

530
00:24:19,034 --> 00:24:21,553
Speaker 2: international designers because that's not the reason why I went

531
00:24:21,594 --> 00:24:24,754
Speaker 2: to Tokyo. So I only bought things from Tokyo. Buy

532
00:24:24,874 --> 00:24:28,474
Speaker 2: Japanese designers, Japanese brand. So what I'm wearing today is

533
00:24:28,514 --> 00:24:31,874
Speaker 2: a really cool Japanese brand called and Real ahe an

534
00:24:32,474 --> 00:24:34,154
Speaker 2: r e a l age.

535
00:24:34,554 --> 00:24:38,194
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the shirt you're wearing. That's fit shirt,

536
00:24:38,274 --> 00:24:40,514
Speaker 1: such a cool Can you describe the shirt because it's

537
00:24:40,514 --> 00:24:42,954
Speaker 1: a bit of a twist on a traditional button down.

538
00:24:43,114 --> 00:24:46,313
Speaker 2: Yes, So it's a blue shirt with white buttons all

539
00:24:46,354 --> 00:24:49,234
Speaker 2: the way down. But how they designed a shirt, there's

540
00:24:49,234 --> 00:24:52,794
Speaker 2: a story behind it. This shirt can wrap. If you

541
00:24:52,834 --> 00:24:56,074
Speaker 2: wrap around this shirt and in a huge round sphere

542
00:24:56,114 --> 00:24:58,914
Speaker 2: like a bore, it will fit because they designed it

543
00:24:59,074 --> 00:25:02,514
Speaker 2: through like a big, gigantic boat, which they have hanging

544
00:25:02,634 --> 00:25:03,914
Speaker 2: as a display in the shop.

545
00:25:04,074 --> 00:25:06,234
Speaker 1: Oh wow, And what's the reason for that? Because it's

546
00:25:06,314 --> 00:25:08,914
Speaker 1: kind of like it's it's a sculptural sort of design

547
00:25:08,994 --> 00:25:10,394
Speaker 1: through the back of this shirt. There's a lot of

548
00:25:10,434 --> 00:25:11,793
Speaker 1: extra volume through it.

549
00:25:12,474 --> 00:25:15,634
Speaker 2: There's the big drape at the back, which is a

550
00:25:15,674 --> 00:25:18,114
Speaker 2: really nice detail as well as it's not like a

551
00:25:18,154 --> 00:25:21,273
Speaker 2: normal straight down button up shirt. It goes out in

552
00:25:21,314 --> 00:25:23,874
Speaker 2: the middle and it's like a circular. It's just basically

553
00:25:24,314 --> 00:25:26,914
Speaker 2: a new way of looking at a boring.

554
00:25:26,674 --> 00:25:28,714
Speaker 1: Shirt, a button down. Yes, yeah, I love that it's

555
00:25:28,754 --> 00:25:29,874
Speaker 1: got that point of difference.

556
00:25:29,954 --> 00:25:30,714
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.

557
00:25:30,914 --> 00:25:31,273
Speaker 1: Yeah.

558
00:25:31,314 --> 00:25:34,994
Speaker 2: So when I bought this shirt, of course straight away

559
00:25:35,034 --> 00:25:36,994
Speaker 2: the next day I wore it, and I wore it

560
00:25:37,074 --> 00:25:39,674
Speaker 2: with the trousers I bought from the same brand, and

561
00:25:39,714 --> 00:25:43,074
Speaker 2: there's basically oversized trousers, but you can fold the side

562
00:25:43,594 --> 00:25:46,234
Speaker 2: in it looks like there's another layer of trouser. It's

563
00:25:46,314 --> 00:25:49,114
Speaker 2: so cool. Real the amount of people that were looking

564
00:25:49,114 --> 00:25:50,594
Speaker 2: at me like, you know, they thought I was Japanese,

565
00:25:50,634 --> 00:25:52,034
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh my god, I've been validated

566
00:25:52,034 --> 00:25:53,434
Speaker 2: as that day.

567
00:25:53,554 --> 00:25:58,154
Speaker 1: It looks experimental tailoring is very Japanese. Yes, okay? And

568
00:25:58,154 --> 00:26:00,394
Speaker 1: what anything else that you're loving in your wardrobe or

569
00:26:00,394 --> 00:26:01,914
Speaker 1: that you've recently acquired.

570
00:26:01,474 --> 00:26:05,474
Speaker 2: Because of that trip, I was never like a tall

571
00:26:06,354 --> 00:26:10,434
Speaker 2: skirt person. And after that trip, I went to my

572
00:26:10,474 --> 00:26:12,793
Speaker 2: one of my favorite shops in Melbourne, Goodbyes. It's a

573
00:26:12,834 --> 00:26:15,634
Speaker 2: pre love shop, and there was like a long skirt

574
00:26:15,674 --> 00:26:19,114
Speaker 2: which is like a tall skirt and it's got ruffles

575
00:26:19,114 --> 00:26:21,594
Speaker 2: on top. To me, if you ask me five years ago,

576
00:26:21,594 --> 00:26:25,194
Speaker 2: I was like, no way, I'm going to buy that exactly,

577
00:26:25,314 --> 00:26:29,274
Speaker 2: so not me. Yeah, however, I said to myself, buy it,

578
00:26:29,714 --> 00:26:32,114
Speaker 2: push yourself. So I did, so I will wear it

579
00:26:32,154 --> 00:26:34,154
Speaker 2: with my jeans I'm wearing now. It's like you know,

580
00:26:34,234 --> 00:26:37,314
Speaker 2: oversized unicloth underneath the skirt.

581
00:26:37,994 --> 00:26:38,474
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

582
00:26:38,674 --> 00:26:41,594
Speaker 2: And I pair it with like a black and white

583
00:26:42,034 --> 00:26:44,554
Speaker 2: a top I got from Conde Gaza. It's all distressed,

584
00:26:45,314 --> 00:26:48,034
Speaker 2: so it's a black and white top worth the black

585
00:26:48,034 --> 00:26:51,914
Speaker 2: toiled skirts, so that color already goes together, right, got it?

586
00:26:52,234 --> 00:26:54,394
Speaker 2: But normally you'll wear nothing underneath, and you wear a

587
00:26:54,394 --> 00:26:56,994
Speaker 2: pair of heels. That's what normal people do. I'm abnormal,

588
00:26:57,114 --> 00:26:59,513
Speaker 2: So I want to pair it with a really cool

589
00:26:59,554 --> 00:27:03,434
Speaker 2: pair of jeans, oversized Worth you know what, I'm wearing

590
00:27:03,434 --> 00:27:06,314
Speaker 2: the merry Jane or something more chunky.

591
00:27:06,754 --> 00:27:09,914
Speaker 1: Okay, it's again that contrast. Yeah, the contract talk to

592
00:27:09,994 --> 00:27:11,754
Speaker 1: me about the dress over jeans, because I feel like

593
00:27:11,794 --> 00:27:13,954
Speaker 1: this is I know you're like, you're not super into

594
00:27:14,034 --> 00:27:16,474
Speaker 1: following trends, but I feel like for our audience, if

595
00:27:16,474 --> 00:27:19,234
Speaker 1: this is a trend, perhaps that's emerging that they want

596
00:27:19,274 --> 00:27:21,634
Speaker 1: to want to try themselves. And even when you're going out,

597
00:27:21,634 --> 00:27:23,754
Speaker 1: I feel like we're seeing a lot more like long

598
00:27:23,834 --> 00:27:26,793
Speaker 1: tunics to wear over jeans or wear over pants. How

599
00:27:26,794 --> 00:27:29,154
Speaker 1: would you suggest going about just dipping a toe into

600
00:27:29,194 --> 00:27:31,794
Speaker 1: that trend if you're not ready for a tool skirt

601
00:27:31,834 --> 00:27:32,474
Speaker 1: over jeans.

602
00:27:32,714 --> 00:27:35,634
Speaker 2: So a lot of women will have probably have like

603
00:27:35,674 --> 00:27:38,834
Speaker 2: a slip dress or like a lace dress. I wear

604
00:27:38,914 --> 00:27:43,314
Speaker 2: my lingerie dress out, yeah, to go out as well,

605
00:27:43,594 --> 00:27:45,834
Speaker 2: So I will pair Worth, you know, a pair of

606
00:27:45,954 --> 00:27:50,354
Speaker 2: jeans underneath so it looks more street style trainers, and

607
00:27:50,354 --> 00:27:53,154
Speaker 2: then I'll throwing like my oversized dwanim jacket just to

608
00:27:53,154 --> 00:27:56,234
Speaker 2: make it a bit more cool. I think for people

609
00:27:56,514 --> 00:28:01,114
Speaker 2: who are not used to challenging themselves, just try something

610
00:28:01,794 --> 00:28:03,474
Speaker 2: or pick something we don't want. My favorite thing to

611
00:28:03,474 --> 00:28:05,354
Speaker 2: do now is to pick something from my husband's boring

612
00:28:05,394 --> 00:28:07,474
Speaker 2: wardrobe and show him what I can do with it.

613
00:28:07,554 --> 00:28:10,114
Speaker 1: Ah, that's so cool. Where you start? What are the

614
00:28:10,114 --> 00:28:12,634
Speaker 1: pieces you gravitate towards from his water shirts?

615
00:28:12,794 --> 00:28:15,794
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of shirts. I mean he is, he's

616
00:28:15,874 --> 00:28:18,513
Speaker 2: not He's not a huge guy. He's quite slim built.

617
00:28:18,874 --> 00:28:20,234
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, he wears that

618
00:28:20,354 --> 00:28:23,434
Speaker 2: Mitza in medium or like large sized shirts, and I

619
00:28:23,474 --> 00:28:26,714
Speaker 2: love boring his shirts because it looks so big on me.

620
00:28:27,594 --> 00:28:28,553
Speaker 2: But it's intentional.

621
00:28:28,714 --> 00:28:30,954
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so it was back to intention. You're not

622
00:28:30,994 --> 00:28:33,154
Speaker 1: just throwing on an oversized shirt with no sort of

623
00:28:33,154 --> 00:28:33,833
Speaker 1: thought behind it.

624
00:28:33,954 --> 00:28:36,474
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So I will wear like an oversized shirt,

625
00:28:36,514 --> 00:28:38,674
Speaker 2: I mean for Valentine's So why not just pick something

626
00:28:38,714 --> 00:28:42,034
Speaker 2: from your husband's or your partner's wardrobe and change it

627
00:28:42,194 --> 00:28:44,714
Speaker 2: and make it yours. Yeah, that's cool. I think that's

628
00:28:44,794 --> 00:28:45,394
Speaker 2: really cool.

629
00:28:45,474 --> 00:28:47,554
Speaker 1: You're inspiring me. I want to do like an oversized

630
00:28:47,554 --> 00:28:49,674
Speaker 1: shirt with a little short, like a little tiny short,

631
00:28:49,714 --> 00:28:52,954
Speaker 1: big chunky heel. That's kindactly Okay, let's talk about maybe

632
00:28:52,994 --> 00:28:56,474
Speaker 1: the styles that you're not into if you feel comfortable

633
00:28:56,514 --> 00:28:59,594
Speaker 1: going there, what like the no go for you at

634
00:28:59,594 --> 00:28:59,794
Speaker 1: the time.

635
00:28:59,834 --> 00:29:03,314
Speaker 2: I don't know why people love a cutout. I mean,

636
00:29:03,514 --> 00:29:05,874
Speaker 2: it's my pet peeve. I mean, is it because they

637
00:29:05,874 --> 00:29:07,834
Speaker 2: don't have enough material to finish the dress?

638
00:29:07,914 --> 00:29:10,234
Speaker 1: Or what is it like a little window in your dress?

639
00:29:10,314 --> 00:29:14,634
Speaker 2: Is that what you're talking waste? I mean, why why?

640
00:29:14,714 --> 00:29:15,874
Speaker 2: I just don't get it.

641
00:29:15,994 --> 00:29:20,154
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one. Let's talk about brands. You know,

642
00:29:20,234 --> 00:29:22,554
Speaker 1: when especially when it comes to dressing up. What are

643
00:29:22,554 --> 00:29:25,034
Speaker 1: some brands that you know, you feel maybe in this

644
00:29:25,234 --> 00:29:27,594
Speaker 1: market are really nailing it right now? Or you can

645
00:29:27,634 --> 00:29:29,394
Speaker 1: go with the international brands as well.

646
00:29:30,114 --> 00:29:33,434
Speaker 2: So the Japanese brand I spoke about before in real Age,

647
00:29:33,714 --> 00:29:35,594
Speaker 2: really check them out. They also have quite a lot

648
00:29:35,634 --> 00:29:39,274
Speaker 2: of high technology pieces, which is very interesting. Check out

649
00:29:39,274 --> 00:29:43,314
Speaker 2: the fashion show is really great. Watch and another designer

650
00:29:43,314 --> 00:29:47,794
Speaker 2: brand which is it's not overly pricey, is just maybe

651
00:29:47,954 --> 00:29:50,954
Speaker 2: mid range called Prank Project from Tokyo.

652
00:29:51,194 --> 00:29:52,194
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh my god.

653
00:29:52,194 --> 00:29:55,194
Speaker 2: When I went to that shop, I spent an hour

654
00:29:55,194 --> 00:29:58,474
Speaker 2: and a half there just to like browse for everything,

655
00:29:58,674 --> 00:30:01,194
Speaker 2: tried everything. Prank as in my p r n K.

656
00:30:02,354 --> 00:30:05,434
Speaker 2: Very fun pieces and I love how they style, like

657
00:30:05,514 --> 00:30:08,954
Speaker 2: the a lazy dress with baggae jeans and a T

658
00:30:09,034 --> 00:30:10,994
Speaker 2: shirt underneath. Cool, very cool.

659
00:30:11,074 --> 00:30:12,914
Speaker 1: Can we get that here or would you have to?

660
00:30:12,954 --> 00:30:14,034
Speaker 2: They have an online shop.

661
00:30:14,074 --> 00:30:14,834
Speaker 1: Okay, good to know.

662
00:30:15,074 --> 00:30:17,634
Speaker 2: So now that I live in Melbourne, let's talk about

663
00:30:17,634 --> 00:30:21,154
Speaker 2: a Melbourne brand, Daring Do Eat Orang. They're very cool

664
00:30:21,194 --> 00:30:25,514
Speaker 2: brand and they have a matching outfit of like plaid

665
00:30:25,834 --> 00:30:30,274
Speaker 2: checked shirt, tie pans. Is a lot to look at,

666
00:30:30,474 --> 00:30:32,754
Speaker 2: but it is so cool. So do you check out

667
00:30:32,754 --> 00:30:33,194
Speaker 2: that brand?

668
00:30:33,474 --> 00:30:36,154
Speaker 1: I love Deering, I love what she's doing erin Daring

669
00:30:36,194 --> 00:30:39,034
Speaker 1: the designer. I just think she's got that edge to

670
00:30:39,114 --> 00:30:43,594
Speaker 1: her styling, particularly like she seems to style her clothes

671
00:30:44,234 --> 00:30:46,634
Speaker 1: the way that she dresses and it really comes through.

672
00:30:46,674 --> 00:30:50,674
Speaker 1: And I love watching her Instagram for inspiration as well. Yeah,

673
00:30:50,714 --> 00:30:52,954
Speaker 1: like the design is really inspired by her own way

674
00:30:52,994 --> 00:30:56,634
Speaker 1: of dressing, and the pieces have that edge to them

675
00:30:56,674 --> 00:31:00,474
Speaker 1: where they're like tailored classics but with a twist totally.

676
00:31:00,594 --> 00:31:02,434
Speaker 2: And I think she of course she has some like

677
00:31:02,474 --> 00:31:04,994
Speaker 2: you know, like some sexy dresses as well, but her

678
00:31:06,314 --> 00:31:09,714
Speaker 2: mascoline fits she's got a spot on that's cool.

679
00:31:09,754 --> 00:31:10,874
Speaker 1: I've got to check out that check.

680
00:31:10,914 --> 00:31:11,154
Speaker 3: Look.

681
00:31:11,394 --> 00:31:14,474
Speaker 2: Yes, so another brand which is great from London my

682
00:31:14,554 --> 00:31:18,394
Speaker 2: peeps Rixel alright xol. They have very nice dresses, but

683
00:31:19,474 --> 00:31:21,354
Speaker 2: you can say they're very girly. But at the same

684
00:31:21,354 --> 00:31:24,674
Speaker 2: time they have like vintage handpainted prints. Yeah, so it's

685
00:31:24,754 --> 00:31:27,514
Speaker 2: very special. They just have very nice style when you

686
00:31:27,554 --> 00:31:28,634
Speaker 2: want to go a bit romantic.

687
00:31:28,674 --> 00:31:30,634
Speaker 1: But like, so is the coolest, isn't it. It's like

688
00:31:30,714 --> 00:31:33,434
Speaker 1: for me, that's like the epitome of like cool girl. Yeah,

689
00:31:33,554 --> 00:31:37,834
Speaker 1: romantic London dressing. Yes, it's like slightly vintage inspired, but

690
00:31:37,874 --> 00:31:40,714
Speaker 1: the prince are so on point, yes, and really interesting

691
00:31:40,794 --> 00:31:41,674
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah.

692
00:31:41,754 --> 00:31:44,234
Speaker 2: You just such a good show. It's very Londoner style.

693
00:31:44,394 --> 00:31:47,354
Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, Grace, you are the host of

694
00:31:47,434 --> 00:31:51,794
Speaker 1: Mumu MEA's new podcast, Unleashed. I'm so excited for this show.

695
00:31:52,114 --> 00:31:55,434
Speaker 1: It's a podcast for gen X women who want a laugh,

696
00:31:55,514 --> 00:32:00,954
Speaker 1: they want helpful but slightly unhinged advice. Talk to us

697
00:32:00,954 --> 00:32:03,314
Speaker 1: about that. How excited are you to join the show?

698
00:32:03,514 --> 00:32:05,954
Speaker 2: I mean people like when when I got invited to

699
00:32:05,994 --> 00:32:08,714
Speaker 2: co host the show with five other women, I'm like,

700
00:32:09,394 --> 00:32:12,834
Speaker 2: did I is this a scam? And I get to

701
00:32:12,834 --> 00:32:14,834
Speaker 2: write email? You know, like what do you mean you

702
00:32:14,874 --> 00:32:18,074
Speaker 2: want this motormouth. No, it's not going to stop. So

703
00:32:18,394 --> 00:32:20,114
Speaker 2: the Unleached pod came out last week.

704
00:32:20,234 --> 00:32:20,394
Speaker 3: Woo.

705
00:32:21,514 --> 00:32:24,434
Speaker 2: It's just a bunch of gene x women bantering, having

706
00:32:24,474 --> 00:32:28,034
Speaker 2: a love, renting a little bit, you know, we'll need

707
00:32:28,074 --> 00:32:30,234
Speaker 2: a good rent and just having fun.

708
00:32:30,554 --> 00:32:31,114
Speaker 3: I love it.

709
00:32:31,154 --> 00:32:32,354
Speaker 1: We need a bit more fun.

710
00:32:32,594 --> 00:32:35,794
Speaker 2: Everything's so serious, and I also think that it's people

711
00:32:35,874 --> 00:32:38,674
Speaker 2: keep banging about youth and young and all that. You

712
00:32:38,674 --> 00:32:42,234
Speaker 2: know what, we're gen x. We're also fabulous in your power. Yeah.

713
00:32:42,274 --> 00:32:45,274
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm so inspired by you. I'm so excited, Grace.

714
00:32:45,314 --> 00:32:47,914
Speaker 1: It's such a fun listen. Everyone needs to check it out.

715
00:32:48,034 --> 00:32:49,594
Speaker 1: I want to ask you one more thing. You have

716
00:32:49,674 --> 00:32:53,234
Speaker 1: this Instagram series that I am addicted to. I hope

717
00:32:53,274 --> 00:32:56,794
Speaker 1: I get the name right, Gray Slam may not pause. Yes,

718
00:32:57,074 --> 00:33:00,314
Speaker 1: I play on the on the Menopause. Yes, talk to

719
00:33:00,354 --> 00:33:03,634
Speaker 1: me about the intention behind that series and why it's

720
00:33:03,674 --> 00:33:04,634
Speaker 1: so important to you.

721
00:33:05,474 --> 00:33:09,674
Speaker 2: So I'm going through perimenopause and it's been three years,

722
00:33:09,954 --> 00:33:14,434
Speaker 2: entering four years. It has kicked my ass completely and

723
00:33:14,714 --> 00:33:17,474
Speaker 2: I had no idea what was going through my body.

724
00:33:18,034 --> 00:33:19,994
Speaker 2: And I had no idea what you know, but anything

725
00:33:20,034 --> 00:33:23,434
Speaker 2: about menopause from my mother telling me you know, Oh yeah,

726
00:33:23,434 --> 00:33:25,474
Speaker 2: I went. I selled through it really, you know, smooth,

727
00:33:25,514 --> 00:33:29,394
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, you didn't. So I didn't even

728
00:33:29,434 --> 00:33:32,514
Speaker 2: know the word peri menopause until I went into a

729
00:33:32,594 --> 00:33:37,354
Speaker 2: deep research in your rabbit hole about menopause. And the

730
00:33:37,434 --> 00:33:40,314
Speaker 2: reason I started that miniseries on my Instagram is that

731
00:33:40,474 --> 00:33:43,114
Speaker 2: I when I first went through menopause, I had so

732
00:33:43,154 --> 00:33:45,274
Speaker 2: many symptoms in so many What was the worst, you know,

733
00:33:45,354 --> 00:33:47,274
Speaker 2: brain fall? I still have brain fall. That's why I

734
00:33:47,274 --> 00:33:49,594
Speaker 2: need my notes. There were so many things I was

735
00:33:49,634 --> 00:33:51,674
Speaker 2: going through, and I was talking to women. Some women

736
00:33:51,794 --> 00:33:55,194
Speaker 2: very open to talk about it, but most women, especially

737
00:33:55,234 --> 00:33:57,994
Speaker 2: in my industry, fashion people did not want people to know.

738
00:33:58,514 --> 00:34:01,154
Speaker 2: And I thought, why not, It's so normal. So I

739
00:34:01,194 --> 00:34:05,834
Speaker 2: invited a few fashion insiders to come on the miniseries.

740
00:34:06,154 --> 00:34:09,274
Speaker 2: All of them said no, and I was shaved because

741
00:34:09,314 --> 00:34:12,553
Speaker 2: I thought, I'm a very like sisterhood. Don't call my

742
00:34:12,594 --> 00:34:15,714
Speaker 2: sisterhood people. You know, I have you back, And I

743
00:34:15,754 --> 00:34:18,234
Speaker 2: just thought I didn't understand why you wouln't want to talk.

744
00:34:18,274 --> 00:34:21,594
Speaker 1: Why shrouded in secretcy and why fashion people in particular.

745
00:34:21,634 --> 00:34:23,473
Speaker 1: Do you think is there a certain image that they

746
00:34:23,514 --> 00:34:24,354
Speaker 1: want to maintain?

747
00:34:24,554 --> 00:34:26,234
Speaker 2: Yes, because they don't want to seem old, or they

748
00:34:26,274 --> 00:34:28,114
Speaker 2: don't want to seem like they a certain age group.

749
00:34:28,194 --> 00:34:30,393
Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean, I mean, I know I don't

750
00:34:30,394 --> 00:34:32,953
Speaker 2: look fifty two. People keep saying you do not know.

751
00:34:33,594 --> 00:34:36,074
Speaker 2: My first question is what am I supposed to look like?

752
00:34:36,234 --> 00:34:38,954
Speaker 2: You know, It's just such a weird compliment to me

753
00:34:39,314 --> 00:34:41,634
Speaker 2: because when someone looks old, you say, you know, oh

754
00:34:41,674 --> 00:34:44,034
Speaker 2: you look too old, or you know, if someone looks young,

755
00:34:44,034 --> 00:34:45,834
Speaker 2: you go, oh, you don't look your age. I'm like, okay, whatever.

756
00:34:46,554 --> 00:34:49,074
Speaker 2: So this is a series that I want to shine

757
00:34:49,074 --> 00:34:51,714
Speaker 2: and light and share people's stories where whether you're a

758
00:34:51,714 --> 00:34:57,554
Speaker 2: lift experienced woman or I interfeel of like scientists, doctors, nurses, researchers, psychologists,

759
00:34:57,634 --> 00:35:01,354
Speaker 2: because it's all interlinked. And I just don't want women

760
00:35:01,394 --> 00:35:03,714
Speaker 2: to feel ashamed about this because it's so normal.

761
00:35:04,274 --> 00:35:16,834
Speaker 3: Amen, I love it.

762
00:35:16,834 --> 00:35:18,234
Speaker 2: It's very expensive.

763
00:35:19,074 --> 00:35:23,674
Speaker 1: I want you all right, let's get into our next section.

764
00:35:23,874 --> 00:35:26,154
Speaker 1: Let's do bougie and budget. I would love you to

765
00:35:26,234 --> 00:35:28,473
Speaker 1: hit me first with your bougie.

766
00:35:29,154 --> 00:35:33,593
Speaker 2: So let me give you my secret weapon. So, since

767
00:35:33,594 --> 00:35:36,114
Speaker 2: it's Valentine's Day, we all need a bit of loving.

768
00:35:36,554 --> 00:35:41,314
Speaker 2: Whether it's on my body, especially down there, so high Tide.

769
00:35:41,354 --> 00:35:43,914
Speaker 2: Have you heard of this brand from Melbourne. It's basically

770
00:35:43,914 --> 00:35:45,433
Speaker 2: an intimate sex shop.

771
00:35:45,514 --> 00:35:47,114
Speaker 1: I have heard of it, but I want to hear

772
00:35:47,154 --> 00:35:48,873
Speaker 1: how this relates to fashion.

773
00:35:49,114 --> 00:35:52,714
Speaker 2: So I mean, if you feel good, I mean it's

774
00:35:52,794 --> 00:35:54,393
Speaker 2: Valentine's so let's have a bit of fun. You know

775
00:35:54,434 --> 00:35:57,354
Speaker 2: you're looking fine, you know you're looking great with your partner,

776
00:35:58,274 --> 00:36:00,194
Speaker 2: You go for a nice meal, you get home, what

777
00:36:00,234 --> 00:36:01,834
Speaker 2: are you going to do? You get some loving it?

778
00:36:02,594 --> 00:36:04,674
Speaker 2: So I want you to be happy down there too.

779
00:36:04,874 --> 00:36:08,834
Speaker 2: So High Tide is a Melbourne brand by two couple,

780
00:36:09,754 --> 00:36:12,593
Speaker 2: Paige and Soreen. And trust me to find this shop

781
00:36:12,634 --> 00:36:15,274
Speaker 2: the second way I moved to Melbourne. Yeah, it just

782
00:36:15,634 --> 00:36:18,314
Speaker 2: I would draw you in it, lure me in. And

783
00:36:18,354 --> 00:36:21,754
Speaker 2: I went inside with my son who was then like eleven,

784
00:36:22,394 --> 00:36:24,433
Speaker 2: and he got kicked out and I'm like, why what

785
00:36:24,514 --> 00:36:25,034
Speaker 2: is this shop?

786
00:36:25,234 --> 00:36:28,034
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh my god, I've seen it. It looks like

787
00:36:28,034 --> 00:36:31,114
Speaker 1: a normal boutique. But it's like, really, yes, it looks

788
00:36:31,394 --> 00:36:33,514
Speaker 1: so I just had the aha moment. It's really the

789
00:36:33,554 --> 00:36:36,194
Speaker 1: branding is really on point and it looks sexual wellness,

790
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:37,594
Speaker 1: but it looks like a high end booty.

791
00:36:37,634 --> 00:36:42,994
Speaker 2: It looks like a cool boutique shop. Basically very well created,

792
00:36:43,154 --> 00:36:47,074
Speaker 2: very well designed. Everything's on display, you can touch, and

793
00:36:47,794 --> 00:36:50,553
Speaker 2: they are so knowledgeable. There's so many cool things there

794
00:36:50,554 --> 00:36:54,993
Speaker 2: and they are all very curated and the design of

795
00:36:55,074 --> 00:36:57,194
Speaker 2: every single object is so damn cool.

796
00:36:57,394 --> 00:37:00,314
Speaker 1: So it's esthetically pleasing, pleasing.

797
00:37:00,514 --> 00:37:03,354
Speaker 2: And just definitely check out they have on nine shop

798
00:37:03,394 --> 00:37:07,314
Speaker 2: and they run classes, they run events. I mean, it's

799
00:37:07,314 --> 00:37:08,554
Speaker 2: one of my favorite shops in Melbourne.

800
00:37:08,554 --> 00:37:10,914
Speaker 1: Okay, I absolutely love that recommendation. It came out of

801
00:37:10,994 --> 00:37:14,034
Speaker 1: left field, but I see how it synchronizes with the topic.

802
00:37:14,154 --> 00:37:14,674
Speaker 1: I love it.

803
00:37:14,794 --> 00:37:17,794
Speaker 2: Yes, it's Valentine's Day people, so don't you know genius.

804
00:37:17,834 --> 00:37:21,873
Speaker 2: Another brand that I really like is called JW p

805
00:37:22,194 --> 00:37:27,714
Speaker 2: Pei is from la They are very experimental in the

806
00:37:27,754 --> 00:37:30,473
Speaker 2: way they style their collection, so you get a lot

807
00:37:30,474 --> 00:37:34,194
Speaker 2: of inspiration. And if you like dresses, check out their

808
00:37:34,234 --> 00:37:38,274
Speaker 2: dresses section because they have some three D embroidery dress dresses,

809
00:37:38,554 --> 00:37:40,913
Speaker 2: which is a little bit different than your normal cut out,

810
00:37:40,994 --> 00:37:43,754
Speaker 2: I mean, ditch your cut up. So they're very comma

811
00:37:44,154 --> 00:37:46,154
Speaker 2: so they're very bougie. They're not cheap.

812
00:37:46,674 --> 00:37:49,954
Speaker 1: Okay, I only know JW pay from the handbags.

813
00:37:50,354 --> 00:37:54,314
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you should check very fun fun they have

814
00:37:54,554 --> 00:37:58,554
Speaker 2: accessories as well. Their accessories also quite a little bit

815
00:37:58,634 --> 00:38:01,474
Speaker 2: hint of ghetto style, like very New York ghetto styles

816
00:38:00,994 --> 00:38:04,514
Speaker 2: with some gold pieces, statement pieces, very fun brand.

817
00:38:04,554 --> 00:38:06,594
Speaker 1: All right, now hit me with your budget You're more

818
00:38:06,634 --> 00:38:08,433
Speaker 1: affordable style recommendation.

819
00:38:09,114 --> 00:38:11,954
Speaker 2: So I'm really into shoes and I recently bought this

820
00:38:11,994 --> 00:38:13,954
Speaker 2: pair of Marry Jane and I'm wearing now. I'm going

821
00:38:14,034 --> 00:38:17,714
Speaker 2: to show you Charles and Keith, a Singaporean brand. A

822
00:38:17,754 --> 00:38:20,794
Speaker 2: lot of people know. Some people might not know very

823
00:38:20,834 --> 00:38:23,553
Speaker 2: affordable prices. I mean, my Marria Jane costs eight eight

824
00:38:23,554 --> 00:38:24,074
Speaker 2: dollars on.

825
00:38:24,074 --> 00:38:27,314
Speaker 1: Cell Amazing Christmas. They look so expensive, yeh.

826
00:38:27,434 --> 00:38:29,914
Speaker 2: I got stopped so many times on the street, people

827
00:38:29,994 --> 00:38:31,274
Speaker 2: women asking where did I get there?

828
00:38:31,394 --> 00:38:35,514
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're really cool, like a strappy patent leather, ye

829
00:38:36,434 --> 00:38:38,194
Speaker 1: leather Mary Jane with a little black heel.

830
00:38:38,314 --> 00:38:40,474
Speaker 2: Yes, and a pair of yellow socks to make it

831
00:38:40,514 --> 00:38:42,794
Speaker 2: more fun. But I bought so many pair of socks

832
00:38:42,834 --> 00:38:44,474
Speaker 2: here you know this trip, I'm only here for like

833
00:38:44,474 --> 00:38:48,114
Speaker 2: two days in Sydney. In Sydney because I couldn't decide

834
00:38:48,114 --> 00:38:50,874
Speaker 2: whether whether I go play yellow or like some pattern

835
00:38:50,954 --> 00:38:54,234
Speaker 2: color or like poker dots. I mean, try it please.

836
00:38:54,314 --> 00:38:55,794
Speaker 1: You could do a different version tomorrow.

837
00:38:55,834 --> 00:38:56,433
Speaker 3: You look.

838
00:38:56,554 --> 00:38:59,914
Speaker 1: Look, you've inspired me. I might buy some socks.

839
00:38:59,994 --> 00:39:03,234
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll send you links. So Charles and Keiths they have.

840
00:39:03,834 --> 00:39:06,913
Speaker 2: They have bags from one hundred dollars to one hundred

841
00:39:06,914 --> 00:39:09,754
Speaker 2: and four, very reasonable, and they're very cute. Shoes one

842
00:39:09,834 --> 00:39:12,073
Speaker 2: hundred dollars to two hundred dollars, very cute.

843
00:39:12,074 --> 00:39:14,154
Speaker 1: It's a really good price point, isn't it. It's like

844
00:39:14,194 --> 00:39:17,954
Speaker 1: on point stuff. Like the designs are great, they're on trend,

845
00:39:17,954 --> 00:39:19,994
Speaker 1: but they're also, like I feel like, designed to be

846
00:39:20,074 --> 00:39:20,794
Speaker 1: quite timeless.

847
00:39:20,914 --> 00:39:23,873
Speaker 2: And they have kits shoes, the little Ballerina kisshoes so

848
00:39:24,074 --> 00:39:25,994
Speaker 2: cute that eight dollars.

849
00:39:25,514 --> 00:39:28,794
Speaker 1: Good to know, very gay, okay.

850
00:39:27,674 --> 00:39:30,354
Speaker 2: And jewel read twenty nine dollars to sixty six.

851
00:39:30,394 --> 00:39:32,114
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you know, I didn't know they

852
00:39:32,114 --> 00:39:35,794
Speaker 1: did jewelry. I've just lurked. The shoes mostly good to know. Yes,

853
00:39:36,434 --> 00:39:40,154
Speaker 1: all right, let's get into mine. So, my bougie, it's

854
00:39:40,154 --> 00:39:42,834
Speaker 1: also a shoe. It's something I've been thinking about for

855
00:39:43,034 --> 00:39:46,634
Speaker 1: months since I first clocked them in the Bonda boutique.

856
00:39:46,674 --> 00:39:50,354
Speaker 1: It's the Saint Agny thong heel. I wear a lot

857
00:39:50,354 --> 00:39:53,234
Speaker 1: of thongs. Unashamedly, I don't know what your view on

858
00:39:53,274 --> 00:39:54,994
Speaker 1: that is grace. But I do love a thong, and

859
00:39:55,034 --> 00:39:57,913
Speaker 1: I'm really into the thong heel trend. I know it's

860
00:39:57,914 --> 00:39:59,554
Speaker 1: a bit of a Y two K throwback, but I

861
00:39:59,594 --> 00:40:01,514
Speaker 1: just feel like they make sense for me because I

862
00:40:01,594 --> 00:40:03,794
Speaker 1: wear flats all the time, thongs all the time, and

863
00:40:04,114 --> 00:40:07,114
Speaker 1: just a slightly more elevated version of that really minimal

864
00:40:07,834 --> 00:40:10,433
Speaker 1: kind of you can't wear everything. Okay, good to know

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Speaker 1: I have approval. So these for me are the perfect

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00:40:14,394 --> 00:40:16,714
Speaker 1: square toe leather thong heel.

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Speaker 2: I know exactly what you do.

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00:40:18,994 --> 00:40:22,154
Speaker 1: They are so chic. Unfortunately, the black is all but

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00:40:22,274 --> 00:40:24,913
Speaker 1: sold out except my black No. Well, okay, so they

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00:40:24,954 --> 00:40:26,634
Speaker 1: also I want to get your thoughts. They have red,

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00:40:26,754 --> 00:40:28,714
Speaker 1: which I they're the ones I saw and I fell

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00:40:28,714 --> 00:40:31,314
Speaker 1: in love with. They have silver and they have white.

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00:40:31,834 --> 00:40:33,234
Speaker 1: I'm thinking the red.

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00:40:33,394 --> 00:40:36,594
Speaker 2: White because right reminds me of like someone called Tracy

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00:40:36,634 --> 00:40:37,114
Speaker 2: will wear it.

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00:40:38,314 --> 00:40:42,514
Speaker 1: All right, apologies to Tracy. White heels are more tricky.

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00:40:42,554 --> 00:40:44,873
Speaker 1: Would you go the silver, which are very cute?

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00:40:44,914 --> 00:40:47,834
Speaker 2: All the reds depends what you have in your wardrobe.

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00:40:47,874 --> 00:40:49,873
Speaker 1: I'm more of a gold jewelry wearer, so I feel

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00:40:49,914 --> 00:40:52,194
Speaker 1: like the silver would be a little bit harder for me. To.

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00:40:52,354 --> 00:40:53,954
Speaker 1: I think the red is the answer. I think I

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00:40:53,994 --> 00:40:54,554
Speaker 1: already know that.

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00:40:54,674 --> 00:40:57,034
Speaker 2: I think if you, I think, if you have a

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00:40:57,034 --> 00:41:00,994
Speaker 2: lot of gold accessories, the metallic also goes. Well, it

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00:41:00,994 --> 00:41:02,634
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be gold and gold, so you could

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00:41:02,634 --> 00:41:03,394
Speaker 2: do gold with silver.

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00:41:03,874 --> 00:41:04,434
Speaker 1: That's fine.

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00:41:04,754 --> 00:41:07,073
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you feel like you don't have anything red,

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00:41:07,354 --> 00:41:10,514
Speaker 2: then go for the red. Okay, Okay, don't buy, don't

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00:41:10,594 --> 00:41:12,154
Speaker 2: repeat more drobe stuff.

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00:41:12,234 --> 00:41:13,594
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't need to buy the same one you

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00:41:13,674 --> 00:41:15,953
Speaker 1: already have. Yeah, I have red thongs that I wear

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00:41:15,954 --> 00:41:18,034
Speaker 1: all the time, so maybe that's a sign. So look,

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00:41:18,074 --> 00:41:20,473
Speaker 1: these shoes are four hundred and twenty nine, so it's

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00:41:20,514 --> 00:41:23,994
Speaker 1: a decent investment, but it's not like luxury shoe prices,

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00:41:23,994 --> 00:41:26,194
Speaker 1: and I know I'll wear them with everything, So yeah,

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00:41:26,234 --> 00:41:29,434
Speaker 1: it's a no brainer for me. Okay, so my budget.

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00:41:29,634 --> 00:41:32,513
Speaker 1: I wrote an article for mummameir recently about this sort

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00:41:32,554 --> 00:41:36,073
Speaker 1: of styling trick I've been noticing on my socials, which

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00:41:36,114 --> 00:41:38,714
Speaker 1: is all the stylish women I follow are wearing like

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00:41:39,194 --> 00:41:43,553
Speaker 1: chunky gold ear rings, like real statement doorknocket earrings back

902
00:41:43,594 --> 00:41:46,473
Speaker 1: with black shades, And for me, it's like a real

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00:41:46,554 --> 00:41:50,513
Speaker 1: shortcut to making your outfit look more expensive. So I'm

904
00:41:50,554 --> 00:41:53,594
Speaker 1: really keen to try this myself. I'm really inspired. There's

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00:41:53,634 --> 00:41:56,434
Speaker 1: a brand called Heaven Mayhem. I'm not sure if you've heard.

906
00:41:56,314 --> 00:41:58,154
Speaker 2: Of her of them. Yeah, they do.

907
00:41:58,314 --> 00:42:01,714
Speaker 1: Really great statement chunky earrings in gold and silver, but

908
00:42:01,754 --> 00:42:05,074
Speaker 1: particularly shine with the gold. And the earrings that I'm

909
00:42:05,154 --> 00:42:07,873
Speaker 1: drawn to are called the Clemmy ear ring, and they're

910
00:42:07,954 --> 00:42:12,474
Speaker 1: like a long, rectangular stud there's sort of that eighties

911
00:42:12,594 --> 00:42:17,074
Speaker 1: glam vibe, really sculptural. They're one hundred and seventy nine dollars,

912
00:42:17,114 --> 00:42:19,394
Speaker 1: which is, you know, like it's not high end prices.

913
00:42:19,554 --> 00:42:21,674
Speaker 1: It's a small investment for earrings, but I feel like

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00:42:21,714 --> 00:42:23,873
Speaker 1: there's such a statement piece that I'm going to love them.

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00:42:24,074 --> 00:42:27,634
Speaker 2: I really like chunky jewelry. Yeah, because there's such a

916
00:42:27,674 --> 00:42:31,194
Speaker 2: statement that you sometimes don't need anything else.

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00:42:31,314 --> 00:42:34,114
Speaker 1: So true. Yeah, yeah, a really minimal outfit just with

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00:42:34,154 --> 00:42:35,234
Speaker 1: a bold ear ring. Yeah.

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00:42:35,274 --> 00:42:35,594
Speaker 3: Love that.

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00:42:35,794 --> 00:42:37,873
Speaker 2: I mean, because I'm a gene x you know, And

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00:42:37,914 --> 00:42:41,154
Speaker 2: I'm going on Unleashed pod reference iced tea if you

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00:42:41,234 --> 00:42:44,554
Speaker 2: if you run up ideas, reference iced tea another day.

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00:42:44,634 --> 00:42:46,314
Speaker 1: I never thought would come up in this podcast, but

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00:42:46,354 --> 00:42:46,873
Speaker 1: I'm here for.

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00:42:48,274 --> 00:42:50,194
Speaker 2: You know, icye jewelry influence.

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00:42:50,274 --> 00:42:52,314
Speaker 1: You know, why not you know, the heavy, chunky gold.

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00:42:53,074 --> 00:42:54,594
Speaker 2: Just go out if you love it. You know what,

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00:42:54,714 --> 00:42:56,314
Speaker 2: I'm just one of those people. If I'm going to

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00:42:56,354 --> 00:42:57,554
Speaker 2: do something, I'm going to go all out.

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00:42:57,674 --> 00:42:59,914
Speaker 1: I know that about you just from this chat. Grace.

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Speaker 1: It has been so much fun having you on this show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Best of luck

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Speaker 1: with Unleashed. I am so excited about this show. It's

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Speaker 1: a really, really fun listen. That's all we have time

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Speaker 1: for today. Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear.

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Speaker 1: There's a link in the show notes, and in the

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Speaker 1: show notes you'll also find all the amazing brands that

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Speaker 1: Grace talked about on the show. You can watch us

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Speaker 1: Wear Pod, and tune into our brand new podcast for

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Speaker 1: gen X women, Unleashed, on the MoMA mea network wherever

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