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Speaker 1: I'm Claire Murphy. This is Mumma MIA's twice daily news podcast,

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Speaker 1: The Quickie. Imagine being in constant pain, only for doctors

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Speaker 1: to tell you it's all in your head. Now, imagine

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Speaker 1: that on top of all that pain, you are also

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Speaker 1: essentially spending your entire life savings on just staying alive.

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Speaker 1: This is the case for many people who live with

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Speaker 1: invisible chronic illnesses. Before we get into that, let's head

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Speaker 1: to the Quickie newsroom for your latest headlines. Tuesday, June ten,

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Speaker 1: a judge has thrown out Justin Baldoni's four hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollar countersuit against Blake Lively and his two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty million dollar defamation lawsuit against The Times. The lawsuit,

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Speaker 1: which was filed by Baldoni and the Wayfarer parties against

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Speaker 1: Lively and her husband Ryan Reynolds, alleged extortion and defamation.

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Speaker 1: The judge saying that the Wayfarer parties have not alleged

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Speaker 1: that Lively is responsible for any statements other than the

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Speaker 1: statements in her complaint, which are privileged. He went on

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Speaker 1: in his opinion to state that the Wayfarer parties have

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Speaker 1: alleged that additional statements accusing Baldoni of sexual misconduct, and

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Speaker 1: that the Times made additional statements accusing the Wayfarer parties,

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Speaker 1: have not alleged that Reynolds Sloane, who is Lively's pr representative,

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Speaker 1: and The Times, would have seriously doubted these statements, or

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Speaker 1: that the Times would have seriously doubted these statements were

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Speaker 1: true based on the information available to them, as is

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Speaker 1: required for them to be liable for defamation under the

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Speaker 1: applicable law. Lively's lawyers have released a statement saying, as

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Speaker 1: they have said since day one, this four hundred million

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Speaker 1: through it, saying they look forward to the next round,

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Speaker 1: which is seeking attorney's fees, treble damages and punitive damages

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Speaker 1: against Baldoni and the other Wayfarer parties who perpetrated this

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Speaker 1: abusive litigation. The lawsuits came in the wake of oppressed

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Speaker 1: to or the ch showed the stars of the It

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Speaker 1: Ends with Us movie when not on speaking terms, claims

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Speaker 1: that Lively had hijacked the movie from Baldoni, who was

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Speaker 1: also its directors, started to emerge, as did stories of

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Speaker 1: Lively being a mean girl. Lively claims Baldoni launched a

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Speaker 1: smear campaign against her. Baldoni's legal team can still amend

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Speaker 1: the claims if they choose to move forward with the lawsuits.

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Speaker 1: An Australian journalist has been shot with a rubber bullet

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Speaker 2: Firing rubber bullets at protesters moving them on through the

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Speaker 1: Senator Sarah Hanson Young condemned the shooting, saying US authority

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Speaker 1: shooting an Australian journalist is simply shocking, is completely unacceptable

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Speaker 1: and must be called out, saying the Prime Minister must

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Speaker 1: seek an urgent explanation from the US administration. Deputy Prime

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Speaker 1: Minister Richard Marles said he was glad to hear mis

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Speaker 1: Tamasi is okay, but said at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: how America operates its own immigration system is really a

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Speaker 1: matter for the United States, and how it manages its

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Speaker 1: United States. This isn't the first time an Australian journalist

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, Network correspondent Amelia Brace was also shot with

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Speaker 1: during the Black Lives Matter protests. The Californian Attorney General

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Speaker 1: a restraining order to halt the deployment. California Governor Gavin

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Speaker 1: Newsom told MSNBC that commandeering a state's National Guard without

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Speaker 1: The crowds who'd blocked off a major freeway spread graffiti

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Speaker 3: My name is Ghetha Timber and I am from Sweden.

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Speaker 3: If you see this video, we have been intercepted and

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Speaker 1: The Freedom Flotilla Coalition or FFC, had organized the delivery

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Speaker 1: Lawyers for the crew have accused Israel of breaching international

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Speaker 1: of Israel. Ozzie star Sarah Snook has won a Tony

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Speaker 1: Award for her multiple roles in the show The Picture

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Speaker 1: of Dorian Gray. Snook made her Broadway debut in the production,

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Speaker 1: award season for her portrayal of twenty six different characters

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Speaker 1: Ozzie writer and director Kip Williams, who was also nominated,

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Speaker 1: their family together. That's what's happening in the world today. Next,

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Speaker 1: If you're a doctor and someone tells you they're in pain,

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Speaker 1: What if you've been taught that women's pain is quote

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Speaker 1: getting people to take it seriously can be tricky. Today

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Speaker 1: we hear about Chloe, a young woman who in her

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Speaker 1: Taylor Strano reports.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever wondered how much it costs to stay

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Speaker 4: healthy beyond a yearly dentist checkup and the gym membership

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Speaker 4: if she's been shouting in to avoid, desperate to be

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Speaker 4: as hysterical and over dramatic, telling her it's on her head.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes her pain is so severe that she can't even

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Speaker 4: She describes it as feeling like you have a severe

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Speaker 4: flu that aching sensation throughout your entire body, except that's

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Speaker 4: on SBS Insights during an episode exploring invisible Illness, Chloe

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Speaker 5: One of my favorite terms that got used for me

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Speaker 4: When Chloe finally received her diagnosis, the feeling was bittersweet.

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Speaker 4: On one hand, after years of being gaslitch, she was

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Speaker 4: has an incurable illness that will never go away. The

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Speaker 4: It steeps into everything, from relationships, to work, and especially finances.

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Speaker 4: As Chloe puts it, her body is her savings account.

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Speaker 4: When she shows her able bodied friends how much she

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Speaker 4: The costs aren't just financial either. She's lost friends and

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Speaker 4: people find it hard to stick around, she wants them

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Speaker 4: to know that people with chronic illness are tired of

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Speaker 4: in their life, Chloe has one simple request. Don't jump

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Speaker 4: in with advice, just be a friend. Sometimes when she's

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Speaker 4: They prefer that to receiving unsolicited advice or being told

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