1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,424 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:16,024 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 3 00:00:16,144 --> 00:00:19,624 Speaker 2: the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast 4 00:00:19,704 --> 00:00:26,784 Speaker 2: is recorded on Hello and welcome to the Spill, your 5 00:00:26,904 --> 00:00:30,424 Speaker 2: daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick, and she's finally 6 00:00:30,504 --> 00:00:32,064 Speaker 2: back from all her adventures. 7 00:00:32,504 --> 00:00:34,944 Speaker 1: I'm m Burnam. I feel like you can't talk. You 8 00:00:34,984 --> 00:00:36,984 Speaker 1: were away for like five years, I. 9 00:00:36,904 --> 00:00:39,464 Speaker 2: Know, but you had a little mysterious disappearance midweek. I 10 00:00:39,504 --> 00:00:41,064 Speaker 2: think we even explained that you weren't here. We were 11 00:00:41,104 --> 00:00:43,624 Speaker 2: just like she's gone, she's forgotten, she's not coming back. 12 00:00:43,744 --> 00:00:46,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very last minute. I was away in 13 00:00:46,464 --> 00:00:48,784 Speaker 1: Perth and then I was away in Hawkesbury Valley, but 14 00:00:48,944 --> 00:00:51,584 Speaker 1: Perth was my big thing. I went to watch the 15 00:00:51,624 --> 00:00:52,704 Speaker 1: International women's. 16 00:00:52,384 --> 00:00:53,584 Speaker 2: Football so of you. 17 00:00:53,784 --> 00:00:56,544 Speaker 1: It was so good. This is not a sports podcast. 18 00:00:56,584 --> 00:00:59,104 Speaker 1: If you don't understand, don't worry. But I watched Manchester 19 00:00:59,184 --> 00:01:02,744 Speaker 1: City versus Leicester City. Mary Fowler Alana Kennedy play for 20 00:01:02,784 --> 00:01:03,624 Speaker 1: man City and. 21 00:01:03,544 --> 00:01:06,864 Speaker 2: You're big fans of Mary and Aalia. All right, did 22 00:01:06,904 --> 00:01:09,584 Speaker 2: you get like pushed away by security for being too intense? 23 00:01:09,584 --> 00:01:12,584 Speaker 1: Surprisingly? No, But this is gonna not sound like a 24 00:01:12,624 --> 00:01:14,384 Speaker 1: big deal. But it was a huge deal. I got 25 00:01:14,384 --> 00:01:15,984 Speaker 1: to stand on the pitch while they were training. 26 00:01:16,064 --> 00:01:16,944 Speaker 2: That is very exciting. 27 00:01:16,984 --> 00:01:18,944 Speaker 1: Like where you're sitting right now is how close I 28 00:01:18,984 --> 00:01:20,624 Speaker 1: was to marry Fouler. I know. Huge. 29 00:01:20,704 --> 00:01:24,064 Speaker 2: Let's add that to your celebrity and counter listn't we 30 00:01:24,104 --> 00:01:24,664 Speaker 2: bring that up? 31 00:01:24,864 --> 00:01:27,664 Speaker 1: Like Mary questioned, I forgot. She's like twenty years old, 32 00:01:27,864 --> 00:01:29,224 Speaker 1: that's why. So I feel like she looks at me 33 00:01:29,264 --> 00:01:31,304 Speaker 1: and she's like, who's my grandma standing there? 34 00:01:31,464 --> 00:01:31,544 Speaker 2: Like? 35 00:01:31,624 --> 00:01:33,344 Speaker 1: Mary, can you please be in my TikTok? 36 00:01:34,224 --> 00:01:35,624 Speaker 2: What have you been up to? I feel like we 37 00:01:35,664 --> 00:01:37,544 Speaker 2: haven't talked in a while. We haven't talked for a while. 38 00:01:37,544 --> 00:01:40,344 Speaker 2: I did have a slightly lovely but slightly marrassing moment 39 00:01:40,384 --> 00:01:42,464 Speaker 2: over the weekend, crying in front of a bunch of 40 00:01:42,464 --> 00:01:43,904 Speaker 2: celebrities at Sydney Opera House. 41 00:01:44,184 --> 00:01:45,504 Speaker 1: That's a fun fact. 42 00:01:46,344 --> 00:01:48,744 Speaker 2: I just can't contain my emotions. So I went to 43 00:01:48,784 --> 00:01:51,224 Speaker 2: the opening night of Opera Astralia as the Sunset Boulevard, 44 00:01:51,264 --> 00:01:54,504 Speaker 2: which was just an amazing show. And I'm sitting down 45 00:01:54,544 --> 00:01:56,784 Speaker 2: the front with a lot of the A list celebrities, 46 00:01:56,984 --> 00:01:59,784 Speaker 2: the most important being Nicky Webster was sitting near me. 47 00:01:59,904 --> 00:02:01,584 Speaker 2: My friend now were losing our mind because like it's 48 00:02:01,624 --> 00:02:04,024 Speaker 2: Nicky Webster. There were other important people there, but she 49 00:02:04,144 --> 00:02:06,624 Speaker 2: was the main draw card. And then the lead of 50 00:02:06,664 --> 00:02:09,224 Speaker 2: the musical was Sarah Brightman, who I've been obsessed with 51 00:02:09,304 --> 00:02:11,584 Speaker 2: since I was a kid. Is the part of Christine's 52 00:02:11,544 --> 00:02:13,704 Speaker 2: Phantom of the Opera was written for her, and she's 53 00:02:13,744 --> 00:02:16,264 Speaker 2: this incredible Broadway star and I just grew up listening 54 00:02:16,264 --> 00:02:18,784 Speaker 2: to her recordings as a kid and like falling in 55 00:02:18,824 --> 00:02:21,184 Speaker 2: love with Broadway listening to her voice. And then she 56 00:02:21,224 --> 00:02:24,784 Speaker 2: came out on stage and started singing crying and I 57 00:02:24,784 --> 00:02:25,184 Speaker 2: can't do it. 58 00:02:25,424 --> 00:02:26,784 Speaker 1: I was like a surprise performance. 59 00:02:26,824 --> 00:02:28,144 Speaker 2: No, no, we knew she was going to be there, 60 00:02:28,184 --> 00:02:30,704 Speaker 2: so I was already excited, but actually just hearing her signal, 61 00:02:30,944 --> 00:02:32,304 Speaker 2: it was a big deal that she was there. It 62 00:02:32,344 --> 00:02:34,264 Speaker 2: wasn't a surprise, but you know how some people just 63 00:02:34,304 --> 00:02:37,944 Speaker 2: do like one delicate teer, whereas my fate I wasn't 64 00:02:37,944 --> 00:02:41,024 Speaker 2: even My face just got so puffy and red without 65 00:02:41,024 --> 00:02:43,704 Speaker 2: even proper tears. And then like in intermission, I could 66 00:02:43,704 --> 00:02:45,424 Speaker 2: just feel people looking at me. But the funniest thing 67 00:02:45,464 --> 00:02:47,024 Speaker 2: is I do feel like Nicky Webbs would turn around 68 00:02:47,064 --> 00:02:48,704 Speaker 2: one stage just like, why is that woman crying? 69 00:02:48,784 --> 00:02:51,064 Speaker 1: It's like, why does that woman have strawberry kisses over 70 00:02:51,104 --> 00:02:51,544 Speaker 1: her face? 71 00:02:52,704 --> 00:02:55,064 Speaker 2: So you and I both embarrassed ourselves in front of 72 00:02:55,104 --> 00:03:00,624 Speaker 2: celebrities over the weekend, exactly besides our celebrity counters over 73 00:03:00,624 --> 00:03:02,544 Speaker 2: the weekend. The other big piece of news that came 74 00:03:02,584 --> 00:03:04,864 Speaker 2: out is that it's been reported by a variety who 75 00:03:04,904 --> 00:03:07,784 Speaker 2: usually knows their stuff, even though it hasn't been officially confirmed, 76 00:03:08,224 --> 00:03:10,984 Speaker 2: that One Tree Hill, one of the most like teen 77 00:03:11,184 --> 00:03:15,144 Speaker 2: TV shows of all time, is having a reboot at Netflix. 78 00:03:15,984 --> 00:03:19,344 Speaker 1: It well, I haven't watched it. I'm trying to gain 79 00:03:19,424 --> 00:03:21,064 Speaker 1: from your expression how I should reach you. 80 00:03:21,264 --> 00:03:23,064 Speaker 2: I've said this on the podcast before, because it's now 81 00:03:23,104 --> 00:03:24,904 Speaker 2: on stand so for the first time in Australia you 82 00:03:24,904 --> 00:03:26,904 Speaker 2: can watch the whole show and I highly recommend you 83 00:03:26,944 --> 00:03:30,304 Speaker 2: do that. Why everyone is celebrating and so many spillers 84 00:03:30,344 --> 00:03:32,064 Speaker 2: message me about this over the weekend because I know 85 00:03:32,144 --> 00:03:34,424 Speaker 2: I love One Tree Hill, and they were just like, 86 00:03:34,424 --> 00:03:35,984 Speaker 2: oh my Godlaura, your dreams are coming true. And I 87 00:03:36,024 --> 00:03:37,464 Speaker 2: was like, let's just hold the phone for a second, 88 00:03:37,704 --> 00:03:40,504 Speaker 2: because one it hasn't been confirmed by Netflix already the 89 00:03:40,544 --> 00:03:43,544 Speaker 2: people that are involved in it, and two the rumors 90 00:03:43,584 --> 00:03:46,544 Speaker 2: are that only a few cast members are involved. 91 00:03:46,584 --> 00:03:49,304 Speaker 1: I feel like to say reunion you need a percentage. 92 00:03:49,464 --> 00:03:51,464 Speaker 2: Well, it's two of the lead women. So it's Sophia 93 00:03:51,544 --> 00:03:54,624 Speaker 2: Bush and Hilary Burton who played Peyton and Brooke, two 94 00:03:54,624 --> 00:03:55,664 Speaker 2: of the lead women on the show. 95 00:03:55,744 --> 00:03:57,744 Speaker 1: I love Sophia Bush from John Tuckermasta. 96 00:03:58,104 --> 00:04:00,984 Speaker 2: Yeah, she is a great character. And daneil Ackles, that's 97 00:04:01,024 --> 00:04:03,544 Speaker 2: important to note, who played Rachel, who is married to 98 00:04:03,664 --> 00:04:06,504 Speaker 2: Jens and Ackles from Supernatural. They have a production company 99 00:04:06,504 --> 00:04:09,904 Speaker 2: and allegedly her production company is making the show, and 100 00:04:09,944 --> 00:04:13,344 Speaker 2: she and her husband had made a reboot series for Supernatural, 101 00:04:13,384 --> 00:04:15,344 Speaker 2: so like they're in the game of rebooting shows. 102 00:04:15,424 --> 00:04:17,784 Speaker 1: Jenson Eckles sounds like a familiar man. You would know. 103 00:04:17,824 --> 00:04:21,024 Speaker 2: His face is really hot. See any boys, Yes, Hi, Yeah, 104 00:04:21,104 --> 00:04:25,784 Speaker 2: he's soldier man, soldier boys. Yeah. On one hand, it's 105 00:04:25,864 --> 00:04:30,104 Speaker 2: great because these women have been doing a rewatch podcast series. 106 00:04:30,104 --> 00:04:32,304 Speaker 2: They've been going through all the episodes. They both had 107 00:04:32,304 --> 00:04:34,984 Speaker 2: a really traumatic time on that show because the producer 108 00:04:35,064 --> 00:04:37,744 Speaker 2: creator of the show, there's been all of these allegations 109 00:04:37,784 --> 00:04:40,624 Speaker 2: against the sexual assaultant things that happened on the show 110 00:04:40,664 --> 00:04:43,904 Speaker 2: and people being forced to leave, and so Sophia and 111 00:04:44,024 --> 00:04:46,144 Speaker 2: Hillary have always said in the past, So they would 112 00:04:46,184 --> 00:04:48,024 Speaker 2: love to bring these characters back because I know that 113 00:04:48,064 --> 00:04:50,624 Speaker 2: it has this huge fandom and people keep discovering the 114 00:04:50,664 --> 00:04:52,904 Speaker 2: show and people love it, but they don't own the 115 00:04:52,984 --> 00:04:55,904 Speaker 2: rights to it, and going back into the show would 116 00:04:55,904 --> 00:04:57,824 Speaker 2: mean they would have to sort of be entangled with 117 00:04:57,864 --> 00:05:00,024 Speaker 2: this man and everything he did to them over the years. 118 00:05:00,304 --> 00:05:02,464 Speaker 2: So in a way, I'm just like, well, that's nice. 119 00:05:02,624 --> 00:05:05,144 Speaker 2: The other hard side of it is that when you 120 00:05:05,184 --> 00:05:07,584 Speaker 2: reboot a really popular show like this, especially when it 121 00:05:07,704 --> 00:05:10,984 Speaker 2: ended with all the characters in these really happy, wonderful places, 122 00:05:11,424 --> 00:05:14,184 Speaker 2: having this fairy tale ending after nearly a decade of 123 00:05:14,224 --> 00:05:16,584 Speaker 2: being on TV, is that if you bring them back, 124 00:05:16,944 --> 00:05:19,544 Speaker 2: especially if you only bring two characters back, you're gonna 125 00:05:19,544 --> 00:05:22,584 Speaker 2: have to go back and destroy all of that storytelling, 126 00:05:22,904 --> 00:05:24,584 Speaker 2: do you know, Because why would these two women just 127 00:05:24,624 --> 00:05:28,064 Speaker 2: be by themselves in there, like in their forties without 128 00:05:28,104 --> 00:05:30,504 Speaker 2: these men that their whole show was about them being with. 129 00:05:30,744 --> 00:05:32,384 Speaker 2: And the other bad part about this is that they 130 00:05:32,424 --> 00:05:35,384 Speaker 2: were doing the podcast with Bethany joyd Lenz, who played 131 00:05:35,424 --> 00:05:37,184 Speaker 2: Hailey on the show, who was the other lead woman, 132 00:05:37,384 --> 00:05:39,464 Speaker 2: and allegedly behind the scenes, that has been quite a 133 00:05:39,504 --> 00:05:43,584 Speaker 2: fallout between these three women, and so Hillary has unfollowed 134 00:05:43,584 --> 00:05:45,944 Speaker 2: Bethany and they're saying that she copied her book cover. 135 00:05:45,824 --> 00:05:47,744 Speaker 1: And so she's not on the podcast anymore. 136 00:05:47,984 --> 00:05:50,544 Speaker 2: So no, Hillary has left the podcast now. Yes, So 137 00:05:50,584 --> 00:05:52,984 Speaker 2: it's a whole situation behind the scenes, Like is that 138 00:05:53,104 --> 00:05:55,464 Speaker 2: going to just ruin the whole show by a fewd 139 00:05:55,504 --> 00:05:58,104 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, not having all the main characters come back? 140 00:05:58,144 --> 00:05:59,664 Speaker 1: So yeah, it would. 141 00:05:59,984 --> 00:06:03,064 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's a various that we're excited, but also 142 00:06:03,104 --> 00:06:05,984 Speaker 2: we're nervous. It's a very tangled web. So I just 143 00:06:05,984 --> 00:06:07,504 Speaker 2: don't know if this is the right way for it 144 00:06:07,544 --> 00:06:08,064 Speaker 2: to come back. 145 00:06:10,064 --> 00:06:12,984 Speaker 1: So the Venice Film Festival is taking place right now 146 00:06:13,024 --> 00:06:15,504 Speaker 1: as we speak. I think it goes for about two 147 00:06:15,704 --> 00:06:18,464 Speaker 1: weeks ish and we're kind of in the middle of it. 148 00:06:19,024 --> 00:06:22,344 Speaker 1: There are two celebrities that everyone's been focusing on. I 149 00:06:22,344 --> 00:06:24,144 Speaker 1: think you know who they are, Oh, I definitely, because 150 00:06:24,264 --> 00:06:24,704 Speaker 1: you told me. 151 00:06:25,824 --> 00:06:29,704 Speaker 2: It is Angelina Jolie and Brad Peow Way to break 152 00:06:29,704 --> 00:06:31,584 Speaker 2: the fourth wall, how we played this podcast. 153 00:06:32,424 --> 00:06:35,184 Speaker 1: So they have been in a public divorce battle since 154 00:06:35,224 --> 00:06:37,944 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. The latest news has been some of their 155 00:06:38,024 --> 00:06:40,744 Speaker 1: children have opted to call themselves with their last name 156 00:06:40,824 --> 00:06:44,144 Speaker 1: Jolie instead a pit that was made publicly when Charlot 157 00:06:44,344 --> 00:06:47,224 Speaker 1: attempted to legally change her last name to Jolie, which 158 00:06:47,344 --> 00:06:50,464 Speaker 1: was unfortunately declined. So it's been a bit messy, like 159 00:06:50,464 --> 00:06:52,304 Speaker 1: their divorce has been really messy. So I think that's 160 00:06:52,304 --> 00:06:54,784 Speaker 1: why everyone's been watching them at this Venice Film Festival 161 00:06:54,784 --> 00:06:57,624 Speaker 1: because they're both there, but they both managed to kind 162 00:06:57,624 --> 00:07:00,544 Speaker 1: of avoid each other, like they have great agents. I'm 163 00:07:00,544 --> 00:07:03,064 Speaker 1: going to say, they're like doing their press completely differently, 164 00:07:03,064 --> 00:07:06,824 Speaker 1: their promo completely differently. They're not doing any interviews either 165 00:07:07,024 --> 00:07:10,024 Speaker 1: during this press tour, but they've also approached Venice Film 166 00:07:10,064 --> 00:07:14,584 Speaker 1: festal a very differently as well. So Angelina Jolie has 167 00:07:14,664 --> 00:07:17,344 Speaker 1: an upcoming film that she's starring in called Maria, where 168 00:07:17,344 --> 00:07:20,824 Speaker 1: she plays the famous opera singer Maria Callis, who has 169 00:07:20,864 --> 00:07:23,624 Speaker 1: like the most tragic life. Have you heard about this? No, 170 00:07:23,904 --> 00:07:27,144 Speaker 1: I did like a full Wikipedia deemed that she had 171 00:07:27,224 --> 00:07:30,144 Speaker 1: really problematic relationship with her mom. Her mum always wanted 172 00:07:30,144 --> 00:07:34,264 Speaker 1: a son, never accepted her. She was always in headlines 173 00:07:34,304 --> 00:07:36,864 Speaker 1: because of her weight, and then she was persuaded to 174 00:07:36,904 --> 00:07:38,704 Speaker 1: lose a lot of weight. When she lost a lot 175 00:07:38,744 --> 00:07:40,984 Speaker 1: of weight, people said that her voice changed, which made 176 00:07:40,984 --> 00:07:44,264 Speaker 1: her like go into vocal strain, very very tragic. She's 177 00:07:44,304 --> 00:07:48,384 Speaker 1: also had some problematic relationships. So after hearing about all 178 00:07:48,424 --> 00:07:51,344 Speaker 1: of this, like learning about her, I'm assuming this film 179 00:07:51,384 --> 00:07:53,384 Speaker 1: is a pretty serious one that Angelina Jolie is going 180 00:07:53,424 --> 00:07:54,944 Speaker 1: to be playing. Also is she going to be singing? 181 00:07:54,944 --> 00:07:56,584 Speaker 1: Because I want to know. And apparently she had like 182 00:07:56,584 --> 00:08:00,544 Speaker 1: a very particular voice that a lot of people deemed 183 00:08:00,624 --> 00:08:04,344 Speaker 1: quite unusual. So a lot of people either really loved 184 00:08:04,344 --> 00:08:05,944 Speaker 1: her voice or hated her voice, and there was no 185 00:08:05,984 --> 00:08:08,424 Speaker 1: in between. So I'm really interested in that anyway. So 186 00:08:08,744 --> 00:08:10,864 Speaker 1: that film was played Evan's film for it got an 187 00:08:10,904 --> 00:08:12,184 Speaker 1: eight minutes standing ovation. 188 00:08:12,784 --> 00:08:14,824 Speaker 2: That does sound impressive, but I'm just going to say, 189 00:08:14,824 --> 00:08:17,704 Speaker 2: at these film festivals eight minutes as kind of is 190 00:08:17,704 --> 00:08:19,984 Speaker 2: that not good? You know, it's a kind of middle 191 00:08:20,064 --> 00:08:21,984 Speaker 2: level ish. Well, maybe it's even the lower end, Like 192 00:08:22,024 --> 00:08:23,704 Speaker 2: eight minutes is kind of minimum. Some of them go 193 00:08:23,784 --> 00:08:26,624 Speaker 2: for over twenty minutes. But apparently I can't even stand 194 00:08:26,664 --> 00:08:28,224 Speaker 2: for that long. No, I know, but I guess because 195 00:08:28,224 --> 00:08:30,264 Speaker 2: you're in there at the filmmakers. It's such a prestigious 196 00:08:30,264 --> 00:08:32,704 Speaker 2: thing and there's always headlines around film festivals like ten 197 00:08:32,704 --> 00:08:34,224 Speaker 2: minutes innovation, twenty twenty five. 198 00:08:34,344 --> 00:08:36,104 Speaker 1: I thought it was a big deal because she was crying. 199 00:08:36,264 --> 00:08:38,824 Speaker 2: Well, I think this particular one from what I've seen 200 00:08:38,824 --> 00:08:40,904 Speaker 2: a footage, and like journalists who are in the room, 201 00:08:40,944 --> 00:08:42,824 Speaker 2: what they've said is like it was eight minutes. But 202 00:08:42,864 --> 00:08:45,344 Speaker 2: it was also like very rapturous applause and people were 203 00:08:45,344 --> 00:08:47,104 Speaker 2: like yelling out to her that she was amazing, So 204 00:08:47,144 --> 00:08:48,864 Speaker 2: it was not just a standard like, oh, we've got 205 00:08:48,864 --> 00:08:50,704 Speaker 2: a clap for a certain amount of time. And because 206 00:08:50,744 --> 00:08:54,544 Speaker 2: it was such a personal project for her, she started crying, 207 00:08:54,544 --> 00:08:56,864 Speaker 2: which is something we've just never seen from her in 208 00:08:56,904 --> 00:08:58,544 Speaker 2: the public eye like that, which I think is why 209 00:08:58,584 --> 00:08:59,584 Speaker 2: it's gone everywhere. 210 00:08:59,304 --> 00:09:01,784 Speaker 1: Because everyone's saying that this could push her into the 211 00:09:01,864 --> 00:09:04,704 Speaker 1: running for an Oscar nomination, and she hasn't been nominated 212 00:09:04,744 --> 00:09:07,304 Speaker 1: since twenty and fifteen, which has to change. 213 00:09:07,424 --> 00:09:10,144 Speaker 2: But she has won an Oscar. She has worried infamously 214 00:09:10,504 --> 00:09:13,104 Speaker 2: because she pushed her brother on stage. Yes, oh, and 215 00:09:13,104 --> 00:09:15,184 Speaker 2: then they jumped in the fountain together. Love that for 216 00:09:15,264 --> 00:09:16,584 Speaker 2: her About. 217 00:09:16,424 --> 00:09:19,984 Speaker 1: Her weird brother, Oh, I mean it's weird. 218 00:09:20,104 --> 00:09:21,984 Speaker 2: It's weird. I wouldn't patch my brother, But like, I 219 00:09:22,024 --> 00:09:23,584 Speaker 2: wasn't raised in Hollywood, so I don't know what they 220 00:09:23,584 --> 00:09:23,904 Speaker 2: do there. 221 00:09:24,264 --> 00:09:25,944 Speaker 1: I didn't have a brother, but the ones who do 222 00:09:26,024 --> 00:09:28,264 Speaker 1: that's kind of weird. I'm telling you right now, that's weird. 223 00:09:28,304 --> 00:09:30,024 Speaker 2: Also, it wasn't a patch, was a little kiss. Sorry, 224 00:09:30,024 --> 00:09:31,184 Speaker 2: I'm just adding to the narrative. 225 00:09:31,624 --> 00:09:34,544 Speaker 1: Weird brother anyway, So then we move on to Brad Pitt. 226 00:09:34,864 --> 00:09:37,424 Speaker 1: So Brad Pitt was also at Venice with his new partner, 227 00:09:37,744 --> 00:09:40,784 Speaker 1: Inez de Ramon, who is twenty six years younger than him. 228 00:09:40,864 --> 00:09:45,664 Speaker 1: Of course, he has been doing all of his public 229 00:09:45,704 --> 00:09:49,744 Speaker 1: appearances with George Clooney and George Clooney's wife Ama, which 230 00:09:49,944 --> 00:09:52,744 Speaker 1: I feel like has made him look more likable. He's 231 00:09:52,784 --> 00:09:56,104 Speaker 1: kind of smiling, he looks fresh, he's with this new partner, 232 00:09:56,664 --> 00:10:00,184 Speaker 1: and everything I've read about both Angelina Jolie and Brad 233 00:10:00,184 --> 00:10:03,224 Speaker 1: Pitt at Venice have just been really nice things. 234 00:10:03,544 --> 00:10:05,424 Speaker 2: This has always been the issue with them, and like 235 00:10:05,464 --> 00:10:06,904 Speaker 2: so many people like are they going to run into 236 00:10:06,944 --> 00:10:08,584 Speaker 2: each other in Venice? And then even one of the 237 00:10:08,584 --> 00:10:11,104 Speaker 2: heads of the Venice Film Festival was doing an interview 238 00:10:11,464 --> 00:10:13,224 Speaker 2: and they were like no, I mean, they didn't want 239 00:10:13,224 --> 00:10:14,184 Speaker 2: to comment on it, but they were like, you know, 240 00:10:14,264 --> 00:10:15,984 Speaker 2: we didn't really have to factor it in because she's 241 00:10:16,024 --> 00:10:18,464 Speaker 2: scheduled to be here this stage, she's leaving this stay, 242 00:10:18,624 --> 00:10:20,664 Speaker 2: and then he's scheduled this day and he's arriving here, 243 00:10:20,704 --> 00:10:23,184 Speaker 2: so there's no crossover. And I thought to myself, that's 244 00:10:23,184 --> 00:10:26,424 Speaker 2: interesting because even if you didn't plan to have them apart, 245 00:10:26,584 --> 00:10:29,504 Speaker 2: although they probably did, you're so aware of their schedules 246 00:10:29,504 --> 00:10:31,944 Speaker 2: and how they can't cross over. And this is why 247 00:10:32,064 --> 00:10:35,224 Speaker 2: people have always favored Brad Pitt over Angelina Jolie. Even 248 00:10:35,264 --> 00:10:37,784 Speaker 2: if you look on paper, we've always said on this podcast, 249 00:10:37,864 --> 00:10:40,464 Speaker 2: like he is coming out looking terrible. Of all the 250 00:10:40,504 --> 00:10:43,584 Speaker 2: allegations that weren't proven to be false, they just weren't 251 00:10:43,624 --> 00:10:45,744 Speaker 2: able to be proven true, which is a very different thing. 252 00:10:45,944 --> 00:10:48,424 Speaker 2: There's so many allegations from his kids and from Angelina 253 00:10:48,464 --> 00:10:50,424 Speaker 2: and Joli about abuse, not just that one time on 254 00:10:50,464 --> 00:10:53,144 Speaker 2: the plane, but other times as well, and this custody 255 00:10:53,184 --> 00:10:54,664 Speaker 2: battle with their kids, and the kids saying that want 256 00:10:54,664 --> 00:10:56,624 Speaker 2: to be with him, all this sort of stuff. But 257 00:10:56,744 --> 00:10:59,184 Speaker 2: people have just loved him so much because everyone in 258 00:10:59,264 --> 00:11:01,264 Speaker 2: Hollywood loves him. Like every time you see him on 259 00:11:01,304 --> 00:11:03,544 Speaker 2: a red carpet, he's with his famous friends, he's with 260 00:11:03,584 --> 00:11:06,344 Speaker 2: George Clooney and all these people. To me, they're loving him. 261 00:11:06,184 --> 00:11:08,904 Speaker 1: And all his friends are also very likable as well. 262 00:11:09,024 --> 00:11:10,704 Speaker 2: Yes, it's this kind of in club of like that 263 00:11:10,784 --> 00:11:13,464 Speaker 2: old golden age of Hollywood, like everyone loves George and 264 00:11:13,504 --> 00:11:15,824 Speaker 2: everyone and like Julia Roberts loves him, and you know 265 00:11:15,824 --> 00:11:18,304 Speaker 2: what I mean, like that old Hollywood guard all love 266 00:11:18,384 --> 00:11:21,664 Speaker 2: Brad Pitt. Whereas Angelina has spoken many times over the 267 00:11:21,704 --> 00:11:23,104 Speaker 2: years that she doesn't have a lot of friends. She 268 00:11:23,144 --> 00:11:25,464 Speaker 2: particularly doesn't have a lot of female friends. She hangs 269 00:11:25,504 --> 00:11:27,384 Speaker 2: out with her kids most of the time, and so 270 00:11:27,424 --> 00:11:30,264 Speaker 2: she doesn't have that protection of Hollywood. So she always 271 00:11:30,304 --> 00:11:33,304 Speaker 2: looks like the cold, mean girl standing by herself, and 272 00:11:33,344 --> 00:11:35,664 Speaker 2: he looks like the golden boy standing with all his 273 00:11:35,744 --> 00:11:36,504 Speaker 2: famous friends. 274 00:11:36,624 --> 00:11:38,344 Speaker 1: And that's been her label since Aniston. 275 00:11:38,544 --> 00:11:41,384 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Everyone's just like, well, that's her. She's evil. 276 00:11:41,624 --> 00:11:44,224 Speaker 2: And so it's so interesting that all these headlines going 277 00:11:44,264 --> 00:11:46,904 Speaker 2: around of her crying. This is the first time I 278 00:11:46,904 --> 00:11:48,904 Speaker 2: feel that people have warmed to her a little bit. 279 00:11:48,984 --> 00:11:51,144 Speaker 2: But I also it's kind of uncomfortable that it took 280 00:11:51,144 --> 00:11:53,664 Speaker 2: her crying in public for people to be like, oh, 281 00:11:53,784 --> 00:11:56,144 Speaker 2: maybe she's not a terrible person, Like that's not where 282 00:11:56,144 --> 00:11:56,824 Speaker 2: the bar should be. 283 00:11:57,024 --> 00:11:58,864 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so bizarre to me. I was trying to 284 00:11:58,864 --> 00:12:02,024 Speaker 1: look for one bad thing, which sounds so weird, but 285 00:12:02,104 --> 00:12:03,864 Speaker 1: I was trying to look for one bad thing about 286 00:12:04,304 --> 00:12:04,944 Speaker 1: Brad Pitt. 287 00:12:05,024 --> 00:12:07,664 Speaker 2: You'll only find them on this podcast to do it. 288 00:12:07,784 --> 00:12:11,184 Speaker 1: And I'm like, Angelina Jolly has like done this huge role. 289 00:12:11,304 --> 00:12:14,704 Speaker 1: If you look up Maria Kallis's Wikipedia, Like, I can't 290 00:12:14,744 --> 00:12:16,504 Speaker 1: even imagine what that role was going to be like 291 00:12:16,504 --> 00:12:18,744 Speaker 1: in a preparation for it. She's got a standing ovation, 292 00:12:18,984 --> 00:12:21,624 Speaker 1: she cried. She's always pictured with her kids. You can 293 00:12:21,664 --> 00:12:25,184 Speaker 1: so tell she puts them first over everything. Now everyone 294 00:12:25,224 --> 00:12:28,544 Speaker 1: loves her. Brad Pitt comes here, he's got this new partner. 295 00:12:28,664 --> 00:12:30,384 Speaker 1: The reason why he's in Venice was because he has 296 00:12:30,424 --> 00:12:32,504 Speaker 1: a movie with George Clooney Cole Wolves, which is like 297 00:12:32,584 --> 00:12:34,624 Speaker 1: action comedy, very different type of. 298 00:12:34,544 --> 00:12:35,744 Speaker 2: Film now that you're desperate to see. 299 00:12:35,824 --> 00:12:37,384 Speaker 1: I'm desperate to see and I hate myself for it. 300 00:12:37,584 --> 00:12:41,344 Speaker 1: But it's the fact that we are now like these 301 00:12:41,384 --> 00:12:43,664 Speaker 1: two people are likable when like one of them has 302 00:12:43,744 --> 00:12:46,024 Speaker 1: taken like so many years and has put so much 303 00:12:46,144 --> 00:12:48,624 Speaker 1: energy and effort into being likable and the other one's 304 00:12:48,664 --> 00:12:49,704 Speaker 1: just there exactly. 305 00:12:49,784 --> 00:12:51,344 Speaker 2: It's one of those things where it's been saying it 306 00:12:51,424 --> 00:12:53,624 Speaker 2: for years but with them both being at the same location, 307 00:12:53,704 --> 00:12:56,584 Speaker 2: it's bubbled to the surface in a really interesting way. 308 00:12:56,784 --> 00:12:58,664 Speaker 2: And I just wonder now going forward, is they both 309 00:12:58,704 --> 00:13:01,224 Speaker 2: doing like very long press runs for these two movies, 310 00:13:01,464 --> 00:13:04,504 Speaker 2: And even though I'm sure they'll ban journalists from asking 311 00:13:04,544 --> 00:13:06,704 Speaker 2: about their personal lives, which I guess is fair enough, 312 00:13:07,064 --> 00:13:09,344 Speaker 2: it's going to be this ongoing thing for the rest 313 00:13:09,344 --> 00:13:11,544 Speaker 2: of the year now of these two people who are 314 00:13:11,584 --> 00:13:15,144 Speaker 2: still locked in this very public legal battle doing press 315 00:13:15,184 --> 00:13:18,384 Speaker 2: at the same time, and everyone just watching trying to 316 00:13:18,424 --> 00:13:20,744 Speaker 2: pick a villain and a hero the whole time without 317 00:13:20,784 --> 00:13:24,944 Speaker 2: actually knowing what's going on behind the scenes. So I 318 00:13:24,984 --> 00:13:27,024 Speaker 2: just need you to cast your mind back to one 319 00:13:27,064 --> 00:13:30,064 Speaker 2: of the most infamous spill recordings that we have done 320 00:13:30,144 --> 00:13:32,744 Speaker 2: this year together since we became co hosts, and that 321 00:13:32,984 --> 00:13:36,064 Speaker 2: is Megan Michael's jam distribution. 322 00:13:36,864 --> 00:13:39,464 Speaker 1: That episode, Like I think about that probably on a 323 00:13:39,504 --> 00:13:42,784 Speaker 1: monthly basio. Yeah, because it was a topic that I 324 00:13:42,984 --> 00:13:45,304 Speaker 1: was so hesitant to speak about because it was like 325 00:13:45,344 --> 00:13:48,344 Speaker 1: there's no hesitant to speak on. I was like, I 326 00:13:48,544 --> 00:13:50,904 Speaker 1: don't understand it, Like there's nothing for me to relate to. 327 00:13:51,344 --> 00:13:53,504 Speaker 1: The one thing that I couldn't understand was why she 328 00:13:53,704 --> 00:13:55,064 Speaker 1: was making. 329 00:13:54,864 --> 00:13:58,184 Speaker 2: Straw prey jam. I mean, yes, it was a tangled web. 330 00:13:58,384 --> 00:13:59,744 Speaker 1: So we've got an update. 331 00:13:59,864 --> 00:14:02,144 Speaker 2: We have an up ticket, So the tangle web has 332 00:14:02,144 --> 00:14:04,224 Speaker 2: become even more tangled. So as we reported on it 333 00:14:04,264 --> 00:14:06,664 Speaker 2: in a hard hitting US Fashion over four months ago, 334 00:14:06,864 --> 00:14:10,184 Speaker 2: Meghan Markle announced that her new lifestyle brand, which we 335 00:14:10,224 --> 00:14:14,944 Speaker 2: can about American Riviera Orchard, which silly at the time. 336 00:14:15,064 --> 00:14:17,304 Speaker 2: Remember they live in Montecito, which is known as the 337 00:14:17,344 --> 00:14:20,944 Speaker 2: American Riviera. And apparently the brand is going to sell 338 00:14:20,984 --> 00:14:25,104 Speaker 2: all different kind of lifestyle things, home wears, perfume, dog biscuits, 339 00:14:25,104 --> 00:14:27,824 Speaker 2: dog biscuits, that's important, got to keep those dogs fed. 340 00:14:28,104 --> 00:14:30,864 Speaker 2: And the first thing that she launched was this very 341 00:14:30,904 --> 00:14:34,384 Speaker 2: fancy strawberry jam. And the reason we knew about it 342 00:14:34,424 --> 00:14:36,784 Speaker 2: is she only sent them out as like pr packets, remember, 343 00:14:36,784 --> 00:14:39,824 Speaker 2: and they were all numbered, so it was like which right, 344 00:14:40,024 --> 00:14:42,704 Speaker 2: which celebrities got them? So a few celebrities posted, and 345 00:14:42,704 --> 00:14:46,224 Speaker 2: then a few celebrities who didn't post, like Oprah rumored 346 00:14:46,224 --> 00:14:51,384 Speaker 2: to have the jam number one. Yeah, Beyonce's got number one, 347 00:14:51,424 --> 00:14:53,384 Speaker 2: would have said, Harry, but you're right it when Beyonce 348 00:14:53,624 --> 00:14:54,904 Speaker 2: Harry Oprah. 349 00:14:54,504 --> 00:14:56,944 Speaker 1: And then Mindy Kayley got like thirty nine. 350 00:14:57,464 --> 00:15:00,664 Speaker 2: Yeah, she posted because she's just nice. So that all happened, 351 00:15:00,784 --> 00:15:02,744 Speaker 2: and there was a bit of backlash because everyone's like, well, 352 00:15:02,744 --> 00:15:05,224 Speaker 2: Megan Markle planned to do that around the same time 353 00:15:05,384 --> 00:15:08,784 Speaker 2: as Princess Catherine announced her cancer diagnosis, which I was like, guys, 354 00:15:08,784 --> 00:15:11,584 Speaker 2: obviously the company would have been in the works for 355 00:15:11,704 --> 00:15:13,584 Speaker 2: months and months and months, Like, you don't launch a 356 00:15:13,624 --> 00:15:16,264 Speaker 2: company and send out jam in a twenty four hour periods. 357 00:15:16,304 --> 00:15:18,624 Speaker 1: And then I said, she could have delayed the announcement. 358 00:15:19,384 --> 00:15:21,984 Speaker 2: You were kind of across her side. And then I 359 00:15:21,984 --> 00:15:24,224 Speaker 2: don't know if she like really took your feedback on board, 360 00:15:24,224 --> 00:15:26,304 Speaker 2: because then she also released some Raspberry. 361 00:15:25,984 --> 00:15:28,264 Speaker 1: Jam, yes, and she released the Raspberry Jam after. The 362 00:15:28,344 --> 00:15:32,464 Speaker 1: Royal Family also reminded us that they also sell jajam. 363 00:15:32,304 --> 00:15:35,184 Speaker 2: Right, Oh my gosh, they have been selling jams for years. 364 00:15:35,544 --> 00:15:38,104 Speaker 2: That was the messiest the Royal Family because it probably 365 00:15:38,184 --> 00:15:40,384 Speaker 2: was just some intern in their social media account. He 366 00:15:40,424 --> 00:15:42,144 Speaker 2: was like, hey, guess what, We've been selling jam for 367 00:15:42,264 --> 00:15:44,344 Speaker 2: years and here it is, here's the link to buy 368 00:15:46,384 --> 00:15:50,424 Speaker 2: the jam has not materialized for us Mere Mortals four 369 00:15:50,464 --> 00:15:51,264 Speaker 2: months on, so. 370 00:15:51,464 --> 00:15:53,704 Speaker 1: We've been eating the stupid Woolies brand jam. 371 00:15:53,784 --> 00:15:55,904 Speaker 2: I know, when we could be feasting on this strawberry 372 00:15:55,984 --> 00:15:58,184 Speaker 2: jam from the hills and want asita, I don't want 373 00:15:58,184 --> 00:16:01,024 Speaker 2: to sea looks like. So what's happened is everyone has 374 00:16:01,064 --> 00:16:02,944 Speaker 2: been waiting for this jam and there's a huge waitlist 375 00:16:02,944 --> 00:16:06,184 Speaker 2: on the website, but no jam has materialized. Now all 376 00:16:06,224 --> 00:16:09,264 Speaker 2: these reports have come out that their company has fallen 377 00:16:09,304 --> 00:16:12,824 Speaker 2: apart behind the scene because there are allegations that they 378 00:16:12,824 --> 00:16:15,984 Speaker 2: are absolutely crazy to work for and they've driven all 379 00:16:16,024 --> 00:16:18,424 Speaker 2: their staff away, which allegations that have been following them 380 00:16:18,424 --> 00:16:21,744 Speaker 2: for years, but especially now. So I mean, make of 381 00:16:21,744 --> 00:16:24,064 Speaker 2: this what you will, because Closer is a tabloid, but 382 00:16:24,144 --> 00:16:26,544 Speaker 2: they are the ones who released the initial report and 383 00:16:26,584 --> 00:16:28,744 Speaker 2: said that they had spoken to a number of people 384 00:16:28,744 --> 00:16:33,104 Speaker 2: who had recently quit Meghan Michael's lifestyle company, saying almost 385 00:16:33,144 --> 00:16:36,504 Speaker 2: twenty members of staff have quit and have obviously signed 386 00:16:36,584 --> 00:16:38,464 Speaker 2: NDA so they can't tell their own story yet, but 387 00:16:38,504 --> 00:16:41,824 Speaker 2: they will. And people are saying it's completely unprecedented even 388 00:16:41,824 --> 00:16:44,064 Speaker 2: for a startup, and they also can't find a manager 389 00:16:44,104 --> 00:16:46,784 Speaker 2: to actually manage. They've interview heaps of people, but no 390 00:16:46,824 --> 00:16:49,744 Speaker 2: one wants to work with them. And then People Magazine 391 00:16:49,784 --> 00:16:52,304 Speaker 2: released a counterclaim. So, as we know, People Magazine would 392 00:16:52,304 --> 00:16:55,384 Speaker 2: have spoken to Meghan and Harry's pr so what they 393 00:16:55,384 --> 00:16:58,784 Speaker 2: have said is definitely coming from them, but they haven't 394 00:16:58,784 --> 00:17:00,144 Speaker 2: said it out loud because the thing is that they 395 00:17:00,144 --> 00:17:02,344 Speaker 2: comment on the rumors and it kind of makes it true. 396 00:17:02,624 --> 00:17:06,424 Speaker 2: But their camp told People magazine that Megan is excited 397 00:17:06,424 --> 00:17:08,784 Speaker 2: about her latest personal venture. This is something she's been 398 00:17:08,784 --> 00:17:11,264 Speaker 2: working on for a while. There's nothing bad happening behind 399 00:17:11,304 --> 00:17:13,504 Speaker 2: the scenes, and she's so excited to share her style 400 00:17:13,544 --> 00:17:14,784 Speaker 2: and all the things she loves. 401 00:17:15,064 --> 00:17:17,184 Speaker 1: It feels very devil wel was Prada like. 402 00:17:17,264 --> 00:17:19,464 Speaker 2: It feels that's what you're thinking, That's what I'm thinking. 403 00:17:19,544 --> 00:17:23,504 Speaker 1: It feels very like Megan and Harry have a certain 404 00:17:24,264 --> 00:17:26,544 Speaker 1: agenda of way they want to do these things, and 405 00:17:26,544 --> 00:17:29,144 Speaker 1: they brought all these people on to help them achieve 406 00:17:29,184 --> 00:17:31,624 Speaker 1: those things. And these people are like slogging it with 407 00:17:31,624 --> 00:17:32,984 Speaker 1: like churning jams, making. 408 00:17:32,864 --> 00:17:36,264 Speaker 2: Jog biscuits, like they're in like out next to their backyard, 409 00:17:36,304 --> 00:17:38,824 Speaker 2: next to their chicken croop that we saw in the documentary, remember, just. 410 00:17:38,744 --> 00:17:42,504 Speaker 1: Like they're wearing flannel like big hats channing making jam. 411 00:17:42,624 --> 00:17:44,464 Speaker 2: We obviously don't know how jam is made, because I 412 00:17:44,464 --> 00:17:46,384 Speaker 2: feel like that's not I'm pretty. 413 00:17:46,144 --> 00:17:49,384 Speaker 1: Sure there's no churning involved at all. I think stirring stirring. 414 00:17:49,984 --> 00:17:52,184 Speaker 1: And then they obviously made all these batches of jam 415 00:17:52,384 --> 00:17:55,144 Speaker 1: and then Megan and Harry were like, wait, maybe not, 416 00:17:55,504 --> 00:17:57,384 Speaker 1: maybe we don't do jam. And they're like, well, we 417 00:17:57,544 --> 00:17:59,824 Speaker 1: just slogged. Look at all this jam we have. What 418 00:17:59,864 --> 00:18:01,024 Speaker 1: are we going to do with it? And they're like, 419 00:18:01,024 --> 00:18:02,664 Speaker 1: we're gonna pivot, We're gonna do something else. 420 00:18:02,784 --> 00:18:04,704 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's interesting because now they're company is in 421 00:18:04,704 --> 00:18:07,704 Speaker 2: this weird like it could potentially be successful if they 422 00:18:07,744 --> 00:18:10,544 Speaker 2: get all of these different brands off the ground. But 423 00:18:10,584 --> 00:18:12,584 Speaker 2: as we know from someone like a Blake Lively who 424 00:18:12,584 --> 00:18:14,944 Speaker 2: tried to start at the height of her real fame 425 00:18:15,104 --> 00:18:17,704 Speaker 2: around being like, you know, a homemaker and an Instagram 426 00:18:17,784 --> 00:18:21,064 Speaker 2: influencer for like homewares and beauty and cooking. Like there 427 00:18:21,104 --> 00:18:23,024 Speaker 2: was a time where Blake Lively was like the pinnacle 428 00:18:23,024 --> 00:18:27,384 Speaker 2: of lifestyle glamour, and she started this big website selling 429 00:18:27,424 --> 00:18:31,104 Speaker 2: called Preserve, selling things like this, and people love to 430 00:18:31,144 --> 00:18:33,064 Speaker 2: go look at the content and just report on like 431 00:18:33,104 --> 00:18:35,024 Speaker 2: stories or things that happened behind the scenes, but no 432 00:18:35,064 --> 00:18:38,784 Speaker 2: one actually bought anything from it. And I just wonder if, 433 00:18:38,864 --> 00:18:40,624 Speaker 2: like Meghan and Harry, if they don't get this off 434 00:18:40,624 --> 00:18:42,704 Speaker 2: the ground and make some good jam that people actually 435 00:18:42,744 --> 00:18:44,664 Speaker 2: want to buy, whether this is going to get off 436 00:18:44,664 --> 00:18:47,304 Speaker 2: the ground. And I also think the allegations against them, like, 437 00:18:47,344 --> 00:18:48,864 Speaker 2: I don't know, take it with a grain AsSalt. It's 438 00:18:48,864 --> 00:18:50,904 Speaker 2: probably like everything else, like there's some truth to it, 439 00:18:50,944 --> 00:18:53,344 Speaker 2: but not complete truth. It's like when all of those 440 00:18:53,384 --> 00:18:57,384 Speaker 2: allegations came out about Megan Markel from palace staff, remember 441 00:18:57,424 --> 00:19:00,344 Speaker 2: that there was like an official inquiry into her behavior 442 00:19:00,744 --> 00:19:05,144 Speaker 2: because apparently all of these people complained about her being unreasonable, 443 00:19:05,304 --> 00:19:09,064 Speaker 2: messaging and texting at all these wild hours, demanding too much. 444 00:19:09,464 --> 00:19:11,264 Speaker 2: But also you have to sort of like look at 445 00:19:11,304 --> 00:19:13,184 Speaker 2: that with a bit of a critical eye because it 446 00:19:13,224 --> 00:19:15,344 Speaker 2: came out at the same time as there were allegations 447 00:19:15,344 --> 00:19:17,864 Speaker 2: against royal staff members being racist. So it's like, has 448 00:19:17,864 --> 00:19:20,504 Speaker 2: this just been planted to distract us or is she 449 00:19:20,584 --> 00:19:22,424 Speaker 2: just kind of the kind of person who maybe is 450 00:19:22,464 --> 00:19:24,344 Speaker 2: a bit difficult to work with and does message everyone 451 00:19:24,344 --> 00:19:26,264 Speaker 2: at five am because that's when she's up, and does 452 00:19:26,304 --> 00:19:28,264 Speaker 2: expect her team to like work around the clock, And 453 00:19:28,704 --> 00:19:29,904 Speaker 2: hard to say if. 454 00:19:29,784 --> 00:19:32,464 Speaker 1: It is the latter, like she is difficult to work 455 00:19:32,504 --> 00:19:35,984 Speaker 1: with and people are quitting. What worries me is that 456 00:19:36,664 --> 00:19:38,264 Speaker 1: I want to know if the people are quitting are 457 00:19:38,384 --> 00:19:42,424 Speaker 1: just working for that brand, Riviera blah blah blah American Reviewer, 458 00:19:43,464 --> 00:19:46,224 Speaker 1: or if they're working for like all of their brands, 459 00:19:46,264 --> 00:19:49,304 Speaker 1: because they are doing some really important stuff, Like recently 460 00:19:49,304 --> 00:19:52,304 Speaker 1: they were talking about creating a community for parents who 461 00:19:52,384 --> 00:19:55,904 Speaker 1: children are having like mental health problems, and she also 462 00:19:55,904 --> 00:19:59,504 Speaker 1: talked about her mental health issues really publicly, which was 463 00:19:59,544 --> 00:20:03,144 Speaker 1: amazing and I really applauded that they created this group 464 00:20:03,184 --> 00:20:06,384 Speaker 1: for parents to come together and talk to each other. 465 00:20:06,784 --> 00:20:09,544 Speaker 1: And if the people who employed to also look after 466 00:20:09,704 --> 00:20:12,904 Speaker 1: that pro Graham are also quitting, that's what worries. 467 00:20:12,584 --> 00:20:14,704 Speaker 2: Me, Yeah, exactly. And that's a hard thing too, is 468 00:20:14,744 --> 00:20:17,224 Speaker 2: that they do so many good things behind the scenes 469 00:20:17,264 --> 00:20:19,504 Speaker 2: and also publicly, but that's never going to get the 470 00:20:19,584 --> 00:20:22,904 Speaker 2: traction in the headlines and the excitement that something like 471 00:20:23,024 --> 00:20:26,504 Speaker 2: her not delivering jam is going back, because that's always 472 00:20:26,504 --> 00:20:28,064 Speaker 2: going to be the juicier headline. 473 00:20:28,344 --> 00:20:30,744 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today, 474 00:20:30,824 --> 00:20:33,024 Speaker 1: And if you're looking for something else to listen to, 475 00:20:33,184 --> 00:20:35,024 Speaker 1: our friends over our Mom and We out Loud are 476 00:20:35,064 --> 00:20:38,464 Speaker 1: diving more into the new interview with Angelina Joli. She 477 00:20:38,504 --> 00:20:40,704 Speaker 1: did an interview with a Hollywood reporter, admitting that she 478 00:20:40,744 --> 00:20:42,904 Speaker 1: doesn't have many close friends. Similar to what we touched 479 00:20:42,904 --> 00:20:45,584 Speaker 1: on today. It drops at five pm this afternoon. We 480 00:20:45,664 --> 00:20:47,744 Speaker 1: will see you back here in your podcast feed at 481 00:20:47,744 --> 00:20:48,824 Speaker 1: three pm tomorrow. 482 00:20:48,944 --> 00:20:54,784 Speaker 2: Bye bye, Lan