WEBVTT - Teresa Palmer And The 10 Page Letter That Changed Her Life

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. Mamma Maya acknowledges

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<v Speaker 1>a person's way rather than just like the way they look,

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<v Speaker 1>or sexual chemistry or whatever. It was just like a

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<v Speaker 1>really deep understanding of each other before we even were

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<v Speaker 1>in person for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, I'm Kate Lanebrook. Welcome to No Filter. Teresa Palmer

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<v Speaker 2>is an open book in the most generous, heartfelt way,

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<v Speaker 2>whether she's sharing stories on her podcast, The Mother Days

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<v Speaker 2>or offering wisdom through her best selling book, The Zen

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<v Speaker 2>Mama Guide to Finding Your Rhythm in Pregnancy, Birth and Beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>Teresa has a.

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<v Speaker 2>Remarkable way of letting you into her world. And what

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<v Speaker 2>a world it is, a whirlwind of creativity, chaos, and love.

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<v Speaker 2>Her family a traveling circus. Her words not mine, but

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<v Speaker 2>she does. She's got a big family, She's got lots

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<v Speaker 2>of projects and deeply personal experiences that she's never been

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<v Speaker 2>afraid to share. In this special bonus episode of No Filter,

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<v Speaker 2>Teresa sits down with our head of Entertainment, Laura Brodnick,

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about her latest role in the Last anniversary,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a great show, but the conversation quickly becomes

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<v Speaker 2>so much more than that. With her heart firmly on

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<v Speaker 2>her sleeve, Teresa opens up about the village of women

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<v Speaker 2>who've helped her balance a thriving career with motherhood. She

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<v Speaker 2>reflects on the deep female friendships that keep her grounded

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<v Speaker 2>and the story of how she met her now husband Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>after writing a ten page manifestation letter to the universe,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get scribbling. She's a dreamer, a doer, and above all,

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<v Speaker 2>someone who leads with heart.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Teresa Palmer.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Teresa Palmer, Welcome to Mama MEA thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been a big fan OFS for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh look, every softime we see you like our Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>post and we do get quite excited because we're a

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<v Speaker 3>big fan of yours as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I legit, I am a super fan.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've listened to so many of the podcasts, the

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<v Speaker 1>True Crime podcast I've listened to every episode.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I'm really.

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<v Speaker 3>Caught up ringing in doors. So last time I saw

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<v Speaker 3>you you was last night walking the red carp at

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<v Speaker 3>the State Theater, up on stage with just a casual

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<v Speaker 3>Leanne Moriarty to your right, launching your new series in

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<v Speaker 3>a beautiful gown, full hair and makeup, And I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to ask you about the logistics of that because I

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<v Speaker 3>know you have four children at home and another on

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<v Speaker 3>the way. Yes, when you're doing these big traveling press stays,

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<v Speaker 3>what are the logistics of that? Do you get to

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<v Speaker 3>go and be in a hotel room by yourself for Oh okay, great,

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<v Speaker 3>tell me about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm actually expecting our sixth baby because I have

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<v Speaker 1>a step son as well, who was there last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh lovely, Isaac Raicht Isaac exactly. He's about to be

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen and he lives in America most of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's at a very academic high school, so he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to venture to Australia that often. But it just

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<v Speaker 1>so happened that he flew in the day of the premiere.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, right, you're coming with me, first

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<v Speaker 1>time on the red carpet with him and the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>But we just decided we're a bit of a traveling circus.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we work away, Mark's working away at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>he's here in Sydney, but we live in Byron Bay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we just thought if I'm going to be in Sydney,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark's gonna be working in Sydney, Isaac's flying into Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just take the whole crew. So I had all

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<v Speaker 1>the kids. I had to just ring a local nanny

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<v Speaker 1>agency right to be with the little girls because I

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<v Speaker 1>knew the show wasn't probably appropriate for them.

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<v Speaker 4>They're five and three.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe not that first episode, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like even my eight year old when there's

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<v Speaker 1>the scene that I make out with when he was

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<v Speaker 1>like ooh.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh rosum and I was like, oh, I'm so sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>I forgot about that part.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have yeah, we have three rooms, hotel rooms.

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<v Speaker 4>Isaac's about to be seventeen, He's got his own room.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have to do adjoining rooms, suitcases everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids on one side, well, the boys on one side,

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<v Speaker 1>the girls in the bed with Mark and I with

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<v Speaker 1>a trundle bed, and it's musical beds, like all night,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's moving into a different bed at some point. My

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<v Speaker 1>husband ended up on the single bed last night and

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<v Speaker 1>I had three kids in my bed.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, that's the way it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Like's not a glamorous lead, and in the best possible way,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm bring them all with you.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's just that's how we figure it out, is

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<v Speaker 1>we just make it work. Usually my mom's with us,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's easier, but this time around she was back

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<v Speaker 1>and Byron, so luckily I rang this nanny agency that

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<v Speaker 1>I love and was like, do you have anyone available? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And I wanted to take you back to the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>before we're walking these premieres and having these world premieres

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<v Speaker 3>of your new show of growing up in Adelaide and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming in you know, a smaller town in Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>so far removed from Hollywood, in that industry and that

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<v Speaker 3>glam life. How do you go from a young girl

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<v Speaker 3>living in Adelaide dreaming of that and I'm assuming just

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, normal family, no famous relatives in the background,

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<v Speaker 3>willing to step in or anything like that, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you go from that to this career? What was the

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<v Speaker 3>first kind of moment that moved you there? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>So I grew up moving between two homes, actually three homes.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad had two houses because my stepmom also has children,

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<v Speaker 1>and so her kids would stay in one house and

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<v Speaker 1>her and her ex husband would rotate to keep her

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<v Speaker 1>sons in that house, so I would rotate with them,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant that every second week I was in a

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<v Speaker 1>different house with my dad, and then with my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>We grew up in housing trust units and so we

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<v Speaker 1>traveled a lot. She was on a disability pengine. So

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that the dream felt quite far away.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see how the dream could be a reality,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just kept plodding away at it.

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<v Speaker 4>I just thought, all right, if this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is my dream, And it sort of dawned on me

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<v Speaker 1>at eight or nine that I wanted to do this.

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<v Speaker 4>I watched a movie called a Little Princess.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, a classic.

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<v Speaker 1>A classic Alfonso Curan. And back then, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you remember, but on the DVDs or the VHS,

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<v Speaker 1>there'd always be this little like behind the scenes where

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<v Speaker 1>they would do the making off.

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<v Speaker 3>All the little featurettes, the featurettes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I saw the featurette and saw this little

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<v Speaker 1>girl on set and saw her like having all this

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<v Speaker 1>fun and being, you know, on camera and playing with

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<v Speaker 1>these other little girls, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I want to do that. I want

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<v Speaker 4>to be an actress.

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<v Speaker 1>And that sort of planted the seed at such a

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<v Speaker 1>young age, and I just banged on about it for

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<v Speaker 1>so long to everyone who would listen, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be an actress.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm going to be in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be represented by the same agent as

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole Kidman.

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<v Speaker 4>That was like my statement.

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<v Speaker 1>And then eventually I convinced my dad to give me

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<v Speaker 1>acting lessons and he said he would do it, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he paid for me to have acting lessons at

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<v Speaker 1>a local acting agency. When I was sixteen. Wow, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just started auditioning for things. And I always say

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<v Speaker 1>this to people who want to get into the film industry.

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<v Speaker 1>I was yes, and I was like, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>student film. I'm not getting paid any money. Cool, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going to go and have that experience. Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a tiny little short film, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>on star in that. And I did so many of

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<v Speaker 1>those experiences. And then I was an extra on a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger movie, Wolf Creek, which is one of Australia's.

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<v Speaker 3>Another conic in a different way.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, iconic horror films.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was pool party person in the background and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being there watching everyone and watching Nathan Phillips

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<v Speaker 1>and this the lead actress. Her name was Kesty Morassy

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<v Speaker 1>and she was so brilliant. She was so brave she

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<v Speaker 1>had to act drunk. Remember watching her as an extra, thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not embarrassed, she's just out there, she's trying things.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so big and bold and like, look at her

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<v Speaker 1>go so uninhibited.

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<v Speaker 4>And she was really excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first ad at the time would sort of tell.

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<v Speaker 4>The extras what to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, and I didn't listen, and I thought, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get in front of the camera, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to start splashing lead guy and Nathan Phillips

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<v Speaker 1>in the background and try and get on camera. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you actually see me kind of in the background,

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<v Speaker 1>leave the spot I was meant to be standing in

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<v Speaker 1>like way way far back, and I come and I

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<v Speaker 1>start interacting with the lead guy and I actually ended

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<v Speaker 1>up using it and I'm splashing him. And there have

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<v Speaker 1>been some sleuths who have found images of me, like

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<v Speaker 1>screenshotted images of me in Wolf Creek as poor party

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<v Speaker 1>person number one. And that was it, Like I saw

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<v Speaker 1>that I was on that set and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it. This is what I am doing for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life. And yeah, and I continued

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<v Speaker 1>doing extra work and eventually I did I said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>to a student film. The premiered at cann at the

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<v Speaker 1>Camp Festival, and that is where it all started. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I had not said yes to this little student film,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been a much more difficult journey to

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<v Speaker 1>get to where I am, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Because that film had quite a bit of international acclaim

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<v Speaker 3>and got a lot of attention. Is that how you

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<v Speaker 3>were able to get your agents in America and stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>And I've heard you tell a story where you walked

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<v Speaker 3>in and said, I really want to do this. I

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<v Speaker 3>love acting, but I'm going to be a mom. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's really nice. I didn't turn your way because in

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<v Speaker 3>some places they'd say, well, if you're not completely committed,

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<v Speaker 3>which obviously you were.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it was just it was my truth. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think because I was nineteen and I was just bold

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<v Speaker 1>and brave, and I just landed in America. I just

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<v Speaker 1>got with this incredible manager. His name's David Seltzer. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still with him today, and he really believed in me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really had only done at that point this

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<v Speaker 1>little student film, and I had booked what I had

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<v Speaker 1>and Churchill Brown from Shanahan, who was in fact Nicole

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<v Speaker 1>Kimman's agent. Oh wow, Yes, she really took a punt

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<v Speaker 1>on me at such a young age and decided to

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<v Speaker 1>sign me at Shanahan, which was the biggest agency in

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<v Speaker 1>Australia at the time and the most powerful, exciting one.

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<v Speaker 1>And she sort of sent me to la for rehearsals

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<v Speaker 1>for this little Australian movie I did, and that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I met my manager who had seen me at kenn

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<v Speaker 1>and he took me around to all these big agencies.

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to sign with the Willie Morris agency and

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<v Speaker 1>I signed with Scarlett Johanson's agent at the time. His

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<v Speaker 1>name was Scott Lambert. So Scott brings me into this

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<v Speaker 1>big boardroom to meet all the part all the partners,

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<v Speaker 1>like the biggest, most senior agents at this agency, and

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of just hand the mic over to you.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just like, here she is talk about yourself to

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<v Speaker 1>this boardroom of people. And I was quite nervos nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Hi, I just want to let

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<v Speaker 1>you all know this is very exciting and all I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really proud of this opportunity and I have to just

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<v Speaker 1>give your heads up though that my real passion is

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<v Speaker 1>motherhood and I'm planning on having six children and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like dead silent.

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<v Speaker 4>And they all thought it was a joke. They were

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<v Speaker 4>kind of looking at each other.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, she's doing it aha, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Lol, And then my manager's like, no, she's actually serious,

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<v Speaker 1>like she's just letting you know she wants to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be a mom as well. And I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought I should announce it at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>let them all know. But at least I planted that

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<v Speaker 1>seed early on, and so I was never met with

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<v Speaker 1>any real disappointment. That's prosative agents, and I'm perpetually pregnant,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm all, I will not stop having babies.

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<v Speaker 4>So for them it's a little bit like, oh, she's

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<v Speaker 4>pregnant again.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go again.

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<v Speaker 3>But you could give them a heads up so they

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<v Speaker 3>can't say anything about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know who you signed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I told you from day But do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>a great blessing to be able to do both things?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, to live out both dreams and I get to

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<v Speaker 1>do this in tandem. I don't have to give up

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<v Speaker 1>either of them. And I did think after my first child,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>The opportunities will dry up, and that's okay. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>fulfilled in what I'm doing, and even if I get

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<v Speaker 1>to go and do one job every couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll still be really grateful for that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I found that I actually had the opposite fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, my career really started gaining momentum after I had kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Which so interesting. Do you know if there was a

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<v Speaker 3>correlation there Is there something like that you're putting into

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<v Speaker 3>your work, or is there something maybe like a depth

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<v Speaker 3>of characters you get into when you were talking to directors,

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<v Speaker 3>because you do hear these horror stories, not just in

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<v Speaker 3>the film industry. I think every woman at the moment

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<v Speaker 3>is in that crossroads of like it's career or parenthood.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I did have that anxiety that, oh, this is it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I chose to have kids right at the peak

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<v Speaker 1>of my opportunity. So Warm Bodies had just come out,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was such a big break for me internationally,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, now it's haid to have a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I was twenty seven. I think I was really nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>But then suddenly all my eggs weren't in one basket.

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<v Speaker 4>I was really fixated.

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<v Speaker 1>And had such like an obsession with this dream I

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<v Speaker 1>had wanted my whole life to be a mum and

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<v Speaker 1>something that my nana, who's like a was always such

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<v Speaker 1>a great mentor for me. She had eight children. She

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<v Speaker 1>was like, right before she passed away, she said, I

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<v Speaker 1>know that acting is so exciting, and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to reach.

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<v Speaker 4>All of those goals.

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<v Speaker 1>But knowing you and knowing who you are and the

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<v Speaker 1>spirit of you, like you your true your truest dream

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<v Speaker 1>is to be a mother. And I was like, You're

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<v Speaker 1>so right. And once I had that baby, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like everything was for him, about him, it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was everything to me. And so suddenly the auditions weren't

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<v Speaker 1>as scary or I didn't put too much stock in

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<v Speaker 1>any of these things, whereas I think pre babies, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is all I have, This is the

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<v Speaker 1>trajectory of my career. And I got really fixated on

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<v Speaker 1>my career path. And then suddenly I was kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really care as much about that because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in this other season of my life and the opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>started coming. And I think maybe the letting go of

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<v Speaker 1>the control meant that maybe I was more present in

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<v Speaker 1>the auditions or in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe because the nerves weren't there because it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>life or death exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And then I started booking these bigger and bigger jobs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god, I can just bring

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<v Speaker 1>my baby. I can bring my baby with me and

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<v Speaker 1>I can still can cotinue to breastfeed and have that relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will say that not everyone has afforded that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was able to bring my children to work

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<v Speaker 1>and given the space to breastfeed on demand and to

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<v Speaker 1>be and nurture my child and have my child there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I understand what a luxury that is, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't take that for granted. And it's not afforded to

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<v Speaker 1>all actors either. I mean, if you're sort of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the lead actors or one of the supporting actors,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a certain privilege that day players don't get,

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<v Speaker 1>and that people who pop in here and there aren't

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<v Speaker 1>afforded that same luxury. So I really recognize that too,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm careful when I talk about it because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to really highlight that.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that that's a rarity, yes, but also I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's good to share different realities. Otherwise we're just

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<v Speaker 3>looking at these very glossy pictures of people and thinking

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<v Speaker 3>how are they doing that? That's why their life is

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<v Speaker 3>different to mine. Is that something that you have written

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<v Speaker 3>into a contract or you tell production beforehand, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to have my kids there, I'm going to need to breastfeed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming that's not on a schedule, so you need

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<v Speaker 3>to be flexible with filming. Is that all set up beforehand?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really. You do have meetings with producers and I

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<v Speaker 1>always talk about it, and especially in those earlier days,

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<v Speaker 1>mean I'm pregnant again, but my youngest is three, so

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<v Speaker 1>she hasn't really been nursing on demand for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>so things are a little bit different nowadays. But definitely

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<v Speaker 1>in my contract, I have way more airfares than the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of actors, so I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got to fly the whole family.

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<v Speaker 1>Fly the whole family, or at least you know, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>fly half of them and I fly the other half.

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<v Speaker 4>So there are certain things like that which I.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought it would mean that if they were picking out

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<v Speaker 1>of two actors, I would be the less interesting choice,

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<v Speaker 1>because it meant I'm more expensive because I have a

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<v Speaker 1>big family, and also then the housing situation I need

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<v Speaker 1>instead of just a hotel room for myself. I come

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<v Speaker 1>with a housing need where like my mom lives with us,

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<v Speaker 1>my husband, I've got all these kids, so usually I

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<v Speaker 1>need at least a three We can make a three

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<v Speaker 1>bedroom work three bedrooms? Who can make work?

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<v Speaker 4>Four bedrooms is ideal?

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so I thought all of that would go

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<v Speaker 1>against me. And actually it's one of the reasons I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so grateful to Bruna pap Andrea. She not only gave me,

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<v Speaker 1>she's the producer of this show the last anniversary, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>She produced your show, Your Mom and Me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she has advocated for me and has been

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<v Speaker 1>my biggest supporter, and she keeps hiring me no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how many children I have. She keeps hiring me and

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging others to do so too, And I'm truly grateful

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<v Speaker 1>for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's a lovely side of the industry that you

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<v Speaker 3>don't hear as much. That's very nice. Yeah, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about booking those first big roles those studio movies

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<v Speaker 3>Warm Bodies, which I loved, by the way, I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of know what was like in that moment

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<v Speaker 3>when you're starting to book these blockbusters and you're starting

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<v Speaker 3>to be catapulted this different part of fame. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>when those movies were coming out and seeing photos on

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<v Speaker 3>magazines and on red carpets. What's that like? To go

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<v Speaker 3>from working in a student film to them being on

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<v Speaker 3>billboards everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty surreal, I would say, really exciting. Just felt

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<v Speaker 1>like a well wind. And in fact, I have quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bad memory because so much happened to me in

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<v Speaker 1>that period of time. It was travel every week, it

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<v Speaker 1>was events, it was press, it was different photoshoots, and

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<v Speaker 1>like not sleeping so much, and just this wild, adventurous life.

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<v Speaker 1>And because I jam packed so much into that period

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<v Speaker 1>of time, I'll often forget about amazing experiences. Someone will

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<v Speaker 1>remind me, you remember when we're in Paris and we're

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<v Speaker 1>at that event, we went to that fashion show. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, was I there? Did I do that? And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have to go back and google images? Which is

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<v Speaker 1>so good about that aspect. You could go back and

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<v Speaker 1>google back I was there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all being cataloged on for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Catalog I was like, oh my god, I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember that. And so that's that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of this whirlwind. It just was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>happening to me and I had so much energy, and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Just was enthralled.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so unbelievably exciting, and I loved every most

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<v Speaker 1>moments of it. Not all of it, of course, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had my share of, you know, hardships in the industry

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<v Speaker 1>as well, but so much of that I just was

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<v Speaker 1>rimming with gratitude. Really, that's always the word I keep

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<v Speaker 1>coming back to. It's just it happened. That thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote about in my journals from such a young age,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually happened. And now reading back, I found all

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<v Speaker 1>my journals.

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<v Speaker 3>Just really, have you been rereading them?

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<v Speaker 1>I've been rereading everything, and I have journal done memorily. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>from the year two thousand until like twenty fifteen. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a book for every year, and reading like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be doing this. These are the people I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be working with. This is what my life's

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<v Speaker 1>going to look like. And there's a lot in there

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<v Speaker 1>where I'll say, if you are reading back on this

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<v Speaker 1>right now and you've made it and you've created this

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<v Speaker 1>dream life, like sixteen year old me is very proud

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<v Speaker 1>of you.

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<v Speaker 3>There is more to my conversation with Teresa Palmer after

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<v Speaker 3>this short break. We talk about first loves and then

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<v Speaker 3>finding everlasting love. We'll be right back. What was the

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<v Speaker 3>most surprising thing that you found in there? Like a

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<v Speaker 3>memory that you'd forgotten that came back to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, just so that was a bit of a desperado

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<v Speaker 1>and love.

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<v Speaker 3>Was until your first serious relationship, you remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could go back to that nineteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old self where she was like in love with this

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<v Speaker 1>boy and he wasn't really messaging her back very much,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, well, I decided to message him

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<v Speaker 1>again tonight and I didn't hear back.

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<v Speaker 3>And I then.

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<v Speaker 4>Cut to like a few days later, like, well.

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<v Speaker 1>I still haven't heard from him, but I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>I would just congratulate him on this particular thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, girlfriend, why why are you still pursuing

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<v Speaker 1>this person and he's not showing any interest.

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<v Speaker 4>That has been the funniest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually been reading it out to my teenage son

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, learn a lesson here. Yeah, I was like, learn

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<v Speaker 4>a lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's just funny little tidbits like that that I'll

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<v Speaker 1>read and certain parties I went to when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>and experiences I had, and just the person I was

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<v Speaker 1>back then she's not too dissimilar to who I am now,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's just so many things I wish I could

0:21:58.605 --> 0:22:01.125
<v Speaker 1>go back and be like, you can let that one go.

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<v Speaker 3>You can just feel so high stakes at that age.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it does sound too but like nineteen, when

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<v Speaker 3>you're first love, it all feels like it'll be life

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<v Speaker 3>and death, life and death.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so endearing, but it's also like informative for me

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<v Speaker 1>because my kids are going to be entering these ages

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to remember what it was like to

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it was the end of the world with

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<v Speaker 1>your best friend wasn't talking to you at school, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's good. It's it's like such a precious thing

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<v Speaker 1>to have these journals.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's really beautiful. And I'm glad you talked about

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<v Speaker 3>your first love there because I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 3>now about your your everlasting love. I'm assuming with your

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<v Speaker 3>husband Mark and the beautiful relationship you have. Is it

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<v Speaker 3>true just before you met him, you wrote a manifestation

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<v Speaker 3>list of the person that you were looking for. Did

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<v Speaker 3>he fit the bill? It was one of those things

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<v Speaker 3>you had to just throw the list down and think, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to go with this man. I'm in love

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<v Speaker 3>with now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's totally true, and he fit all ten pages.

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<v Speaker 3>Ten pages, ten pages. My goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had gone through this really painful breakup and

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually hanging out with a group of people

0:23:05.005 --> 0:23:08.045
<v Speaker 1>who are really like deep in self development work and

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<v Speaker 1>spirituality and mobile. The singer Moby happened to be one

0:23:10.965 --> 0:23:15.045
<v Speaker 1>of them, and he was really instrumental in my early years.

0:23:15.085 --> 0:23:17.525
<v Speaker 1>I listened to his album on repeat all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I would sleep It was my sleep song

0:23:20.205 --> 0:23:24.325
<v Speaker 1>Porcelain for two years, so I would sleep listening to Moby. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>So I meet him, We start connecting and he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like meditation stuff at his castle in

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<v Speaker 1>beach with.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a casual castle, just.

0:23:34.685 --> 0:23:37.645
<v Speaker 1>A casual castle, and he would do these really cool

0:23:37.685 --> 0:23:40.845
<v Speaker 1>things in the dar it was you'd turn off all

0:23:40.885 --> 0:23:44.845
<v Speaker 1>the lights and so it was like sensory deprivation, so

0:23:44.845 --> 0:23:47.045
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't see anything, you couldn't hear anything. It was

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<v Speaker 1>dead silent. It'd be a group of like forty forty

0:23:49.565 --> 0:23:53.045
<v Speaker 1>fifty people and there'd be only candle light and then

0:23:53.085 --> 0:23:55.245
<v Speaker 1>the candle would go off and people would sit in

0:23:55.285 --> 0:23:59.045
<v Speaker 1>meditation for however long the collective group would want to

0:23:59.085 --> 0:24:03.565
<v Speaker 1>sit in meditation, and this was all very very new

0:24:03.605 --> 0:24:04.925
<v Speaker 1>to me, and I was like, what is this.

0:24:05.605 --> 0:24:07.005
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I grab up Catholic.

0:24:07.245 --> 0:24:10.565
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know so much about meditation, but I always

0:24:10.645 --> 0:24:14.765
<v Speaker 1>felt so connected to myself after these sessions. And then

0:24:14.805 --> 0:24:18.085
<v Speaker 1>I found this idea of the law of attraction and

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<v Speaker 1>I started looking into that. And so because I had

0:24:21.165 --> 0:24:23.925
<v Speaker 1>had this like awful relationship, I was like, I'm just

0:24:23.965 --> 0:24:28.205
<v Speaker 1>going to try this. And I got very very specific

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<v Speaker 1>in what I wanted and I called it in as

0:24:32.245 --> 0:24:35.565
<v Speaker 1>though I already had it. My man is he has

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this color eyes, and he's a cancer and

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<v Speaker 1>he loves children and he wants to have a big family,

0:24:42.285 --> 0:24:45.805
<v Speaker 1>and he's an animal lover and he's at least a

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<v Speaker 1>vegetarian and all these things. And I wrote it very specific,

0:24:50.405 --> 0:24:52.045
<v Speaker 1>this is the way he is with my friends and

0:24:52.085 --> 0:24:54.605
<v Speaker 1>his artistic and creative and deep thinker.

0:24:54.685 --> 0:24:56.325
<v Speaker 4>And so I wrote this all out.

0:24:56.405 --> 0:24:59.205
<v Speaker 1>And the stuff that I was studying at the time

0:24:59.325 --> 0:25:01.165
<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, now, you can't fixate on this.

0:25:01.725 --> 0:25:01.885
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:25:01.885 --> 0:25:03.485
<v Speaker 1>You got to sort of put it out to the

0:25:03.565 --> 0:25:06.125
<v Speaker 1>universe now and put these pages away somewhere in a draw.

0:25:06.365 --> 0:25:10.725
<v Speaker 1>Don't fixate, let it go. And I did, and three

0:25:10.765 --> 0:25:18.445
<v Speaker 1>months later I met my husband randomly online through Twitter

0:25:19.085 --> 0:25:19.645
<v Speaker 1>on twew.

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<v Speaker 3>You just don't hear those stories from Twitter all the

0:25:22.125 --> 0:25:24.685
<v Speaker 3>different social platforms. It's usually where you find a troll.

0:25:24.805 --> 0:25:27.285
<v Speaker 3>You got catfish, like, this might be the one Twitter

0:25:27.325 --> 0:25:27.925
<v Speaker 3>I love story.

0:25:28.085 --> 0:25:30.765
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, we always say like the modern

0:25:30.845 --> 0:25:34.005
<v Speaker 1>day love story through social media. At the time, I

0:25:34.125 --> 0:25:36.245
<v Speaker 1>was like in a really sad place. I was at

0:25:36.245 --> 0:25:38.485
<v Speaker 1>the Bowery staying at the Bowery Hotel in New York,

0:25:38.525 --> 0:25:42.365
<v Speaker 1>which is like the famous hotel in New York, with

0:25:43.045 --> 0:25:46.245
<v Speaker 1>my friend Brooke. But I was so desperately lonely and

0:25:46.325 --> 0:25:49.885
<v Speaker 1>sad because of this heartbreak. And I happened to look

0:25:49.925 --> 0:25:54.125
<v Speaker 1>at this trailer because I was like, I'll just kick.

0:25:54.045 --> 0:25:56.365
<v Speaker 4>Myself when I'm down, Like, what is.

0:25:56.325 --> 0:25:59.285
<v Speaker 1>Another actress up to that's doing better than me and

0:25:59.365 --> 0:25:59.965
<v Speaker 1>her career is.

0:25:59.965 --> 0:26:00.565
<v Speaker 4>Better than mine?

0:26:00.685 --> 0:26:02.725
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, I know, I'm going to google what Amanda

0:26:02.765 --> 0:26:06.365
<v Speaker 1>Seafred's up to. Oh, look, she's got another movie at sundown,

0:26:06.445 --> 0:26:08.325
<v Speaker 1>so of course she does amazing.

0:26:07.845 --> 0:26:10.765
<v Speaker 4>Good for her. So I watched the trailer for her.

0:26:10.685 --> 0:26:13.965
<v Speaker 1>Movie and I was like, oh my god, that is

0:26:14.045 --> 0:26:16.685
<v Speaker 1>so beautiful, my cooleous movie.

0:26:17.125 --> 0:26:19.125
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, Oh, I'm going to.

0:26:19.125 --> 0:26:21.725
<v Speaker 1>Tweet about this. I was just so moved by this trailer.

0:26:21.805 --> 0:26:23.765
<v Speaker 1>So I tweeted about it and I was like, oh,

0:26:23.805 --> 0:26:27.085
<v Speaker 1>I'll put the filmmaker's handle in there, and it was

0:26:27.085 --> 0:26:29.885
<v Speaker 1>my husband. It was his movie, and I put his

0:26:30.005 --> 0:26:33.405
<v Speaker 1>handle in there at like mark and I was like,

0:26:33.485 --> 0:26:34.525
<v Speaker 1>everyone should check this out.

0:26:34.565 --> 0:26:36.445
<v Speaker 4>This looks so beautiful. Put it out there.

0:26:36.485 --> 0:26:39.245
<v Speaker 1>And then he started messaging me. He slipped into the

0:26:39.325 --> 0:26:42.125
<v Speaker 1>DMS and was like, Oh, I'm an admirer of your

0:26:42.165 --> 0:26:45.125
<v Speaker 1>work and I was like, oh, and my friend Brooke,

0:26:45.205 --> 0:26:47.725
<v Speaker 1>thank god, she's one of my good friends. Now. She's

0:26:47.805 --> 0:26:50.445
<v Speaker 1>so cool and in the know of like who's who

0:26:50.525 --> 0:26:53.245
<v Speaker 1>and like the underground art scene and she was like,

0:26:53.605 --> 0:26:54.765
<v Speaker 1>don't you know who that is?

0:26:55.045 --> 0:26:55.125
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:26:55.525 --> 0:26:56.925
<v Speaker 4>No, who is this person?

0:26:57.005 --> 0:26:59.365
<v Speaker 1>And she was like, you've got to hear his story.

0:26:59.445 --> 0:27:01.965
<v Speaker 1>He was a homeless kid and he made him his

0:27:02.205 --> 0:27:04.845
<v Speaker 1>way out of his situation, and he's like been on

0:27:04.965 --> 0:27:07.765
<v Speaker 1>Broadway and he's worked with all the greats and he's

0:27:07.805 --> 0:27:10.965
<v Speaker 1>like really revered in the indoe in this underground acting

0:27:11.005 --> 0:27:13.045
<v Speaker 1>scene and I was like, oh my god.

0:27:13.165 --> 0:27:15.565
<v Speaker 4>Really, she was like, you've got to DM him back.

0:27:15.805 --> 0:27:16.725
<v Speaker 4>This is so hot.

0:27:16.845 --> 0:27:18.805
<v Speaker 1>You've got to hook up with this guy like anyway,

0:27:18.925 --> 0:27:22.885
<v Speaker 1>So I had my and he's always thankful to Brook

0:27:22.965 --> 0:27:24.765
<v Speaker 1>for just being.

0:27:24.885 --> 0:27:27.325
<v Speaker 3>Just stilitating that and getting it all totally.

0:27:27.525 --> 0:27:29.685
<v Speaker 4>And then that's that's kind of how it happened.

0:27:29.725 --> 0:27:32.565
<v Speaker 1>We just wrote letters, love letters to each other for

0:27:32.565 --> 0:27:36.885
<v Speaker 1>forty days actually just over email, until we met in flesh,

0:27:36.885 --> 0:27:39.045
<v Speaker 1>and we had already fallen in love through our writing

0:27:39.245 --> 0:27:40.605
<v Speaker 1>at that point when we go on, I.

0:27:40.525 --> 0:27:42.725
<v Speaker 3>Hope this has been turned into a movie. I know

0:27:42.765 --> 0:27:44.325
<v Speaker 3>you guys collaborate a lot, so I feel like that

0:27:44.325 --> 0:27:46.485
<v Speaker 3>should be on the list of potential projects. I know

0:27:46.565 --> 0:27:48.005
<v Speaker 3>it hope out there.

0:27:48.165 --> 0:27:50.685
<v Speaker 1>Do you know? It's really beautiful and it's nice to

0:27:50.765 --> 0:27:53.285
<v Speaker 1>fall in love with a person's way rather than just

0:27:53.365 --> 0:27:57.205
<v Speaker 1>like the way they look or sexual chemistry or whatever.

0:27:57.285 --> 0:28:00.645
<v Speaker 1>It was just like a really deep understanding of each

0:28:00.645 --> 0:28:04.045
<v Speaker 1>other before we even were in person for the first time.

0:28:04.325 --> 0:28:06.565
<v Speaker 3>Well, and has that really set the foundation for when

0:28:06.765 --> 0:28:09.725
<v Speaker 3>now you are as parents and working this crazy industry,

0:28:10.125 --> 0:28:12.365
<v Speaker 3>because I feel like you've been so open about your

0:28:12.365 --> 0:28:15.085
<v Speaker 3>relationship and the ups and downs, and you've talked about

0:28:15.125 --> 0:28:17.645
<v Speaker 3>it publicly on your podcast, and you've done interviews and

0:28:17.685 --> 0:28:19.805
<v Speaker 3>in your book, and there's I'm a big fan of

0:28:19.845 --> 0:28:21.405
<v Speaker 3>your podcast some other days. By the way, I'm not

0:28:21.405 --> 0:28:23.165
<v Speaker 3>a mother myself, but I take a lot away from

0:28:23.205 --> 0:28:26.045
<v Speaker 3>just hearing all the different stories and everything. But there's

0:28:26.085 --> 0:28:28.405
<v Speaker 3>a set of episodes I listened to that have always

0:28:28.445 --> 0:28:30.245
<v Speaker 3>stuck in my mind, and it's when you had Mark

0:28:30.285 --> 0:28:32.365
<v Speaker 3>on and I just remember listening to that. You know,

0:28:32.365 --> 0:28:34.245
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you listened to a podcast while you're grocery shop

0:28:34.285 --> 0:28:36.485
<v Speaker 3>and you're walking as like background noise. I started listening

0:28:36.525 --> 0:28:37.965
<v Speaker 3>to this one. I just sit on my couch and

0:28:38.045 --> 0:28:40.565
<v Speaker 3>just like listen to it and take it in because

0:28:40.925 --> 0:28:43.885
<v Speaker 3>it was this really beautiful insight into his life and

0:28:43.965 --> 0:28:46.285
<v Speaker 3>into your marriage and into your relationship. And I love

0:28:46.325 --> 0:28:49.085
<v Speaker 3>how you touched on his childhood and what he went

0:28:49.125 --> 0:28:53.525
<v Speaker 3>through and addiction and parenthood and all of those different topics.

0:28:53.805 --> 0:28:55.245
<v Speaker 3>How do you make a decision like that as a

0:28:55.285 --> 0:28:58.045
<v Speaker 3>couple to put that story out there so publicly.

0:28:58.925 --> 0:29:02.445
<v Speaker 1>I think Mark has always really been proud of his story,

0:29:02.965 --> 0:29:07.565
<v Speaker 1>and he feels like he wants to be of service.

0:29:08.005 --> 0:29:11.325
<v Speaker 1>He grew up being of his mom still is the

0:29:11.365 --> 0:29:14.445
<v Speaker 1>head of the Poor People's Army in Philadelphia. She lives

0:29:14.445 --> 0:29:17.325
<v Speaker 1>in the most violent neighborhood in all of America, and

0:29:18.325 --> 0:29:21.365
<v Speaker 1>she dedicates her life to, you know, putting homeless people

0:29:21.445 --> 0:29:24.445
<v Speaker 1>into these takeover houses and making sure that they have

0:29:24.645 --> 0:29:28.725
<v Speaker 1>roofs over their head. And I think that Mark feels

0:29:28.725 --> 0:29:34.485
<v Speaker 1>a real sense of responsibility to affect positive change, and

0:29:34.525 --> 0:29:36.445
<v Speaker 1>one of the ways he really believes he can do

0:29:36.525 --> 0:29:39.165
<v Speaker 1>that is by sharing his story. So he thought, what

0:29:39.325 --> 0:29:41.765
<v Speaker 1>better way to do that than on my platform on

0:29:41.805 --> 0:29:44.405
<v Speaker 1>the other days and still to this day, we have,

0:29:44.845 --> 0:29:48.765
<v Speaker 1>by the way, interviewed, like you guys, so many celebrities,

0:29:48.765 --> 0:29:52.765
<v Speaker 1>like massive celebrities with huge paws and fan base. They

0:29:52.805 --> 0:29:55.645
<v Speaker 1>are still our most popular.

0:29:55.245 --> 0:29:58.845
<v Speaker 3>Really because everyone had that really visceral reaction to it.

0:29:59.485 --> 0:30:02.565
<v Speaker 1>We have been stopped on the street for those episodes

0:30:03.165 --> 0:30:05.965
<v Speaker 1>more than anything, really more than our movies.

0:30:06.165 --> 0:30:06.925
<v Speaker 3>I would believe it that.

0:30:06.965 --> 0:30:10.325
<v Speaker 1>Actually, it was so profound the way he opened up,

0:30:10.925 --> 0:30:16.205
<v Speaker 1>and also we really talked about our marriage and the

0:30:16.245 --> 0:30:21.285
<v Speaker 1>ways in which both of our unique conditioning in our

0:30:21.405 --> 0:30:29.125
<v Speaker 1>childhoods inform our dynamic and our patterns, and how there

0:30:29.125 --> 0:30:32.725
<v Speaker 1>can be a certain level of toxicity in patterns when

0:30:33.685 --> 0:30:39.325
<v Speaker 1>they get ignored, and just the observation of a marriage

0:30:39.405 --> 0:30:43.165
<v Speaker 1>dynamic is really integral. And thank god, we've both done

0:30:43.205 --> 0:30:47.405
<v Speaker 1>so much work in ourselves that when we get into

0:30:47.445 --> 0:30:50.005
<v Speaker 1>a fight or when you know, as we described it

0:30:50.045 --> 0:30:52.925
<v Speaker 1>on the potty, and he describes it too. You just

0:30:52.965 --> 0:30:55.525
<v Speaker 1>did a fringe show where he talked about dark Mark.

0:30:56.165 --> 0:30:59.525
<v Speaker 1>Whereas like the thoughts and his conditioning and his trauma,

0:30:59.845 --> 0:31:03.205
<v Speaker 1>he has immense trauma from his childhood. When that comes up,

0:31:03.805 --> 0:31:08.525
<v Speaker 1>how he internalizes that that is a really big part

0:31:08.645 --> 0:31:11.565
<v Speaker 1>of our relationship and the fact that we are able

0:31:11.885 --> 0:31:17.565
<v Speaker 1>to when those things come up, stop unpack what's going

0:31:17.605 --> 0:31:20.725
<v Speaker 1>on without the judgment. And that's something I work on

0:31:20.845 --> 0:31:23.205
<v Speaker 1>all the time, like trying not to judge it or

0:31:23.245 --> 0:31:28.685
<v Speaker 1>trying not to label it, or trying not to fix,

0:31:29.285 --> 0:31:32.045
<v Speaker 1>fix and nurture, because that's my conditioning is. You know,

0:31:32.085 --> 0:31:34.285
<v Speaker 1>I grew up with a mother who has skids to

0:31:34.325 --> 0:31:36.125
<v Speaker 1>effective disorder. It was just the two of us. So

0:31:36.565 --> 0:31:40.205
<v Speaker 1>my conditioning is nurture fix mother, which is why I

0:31:40.245 --> 0:31:44.485
<v Speaker 1>have so many children. Brother, And that is a really

0:31:44.485 --> 0:31:48.525
<v Speaker 1>important thing to find within your relationship, like what are

0:31:48.525 --> 0:31:51.965
<v Speaker 1>both of our responsibilities and how can we co create

0:31:52.605 --> 0:31:56.925
<v Speaker 1>and make sure that we are emotionally regulating one another.

0:31:58.205 --> 0:32:02.885
<v Speaker 1>And it's been beautiful to talk about and cathartic, and

0:32:02.925 --> 0:32:04.405
<v Speaker 1>we're so imperfect.

0:32:04.685 --> 0:32:06.485
<v Speaker 4>I mean we still have fights.

0:32:06.125 --> 0:32:08.805
<v Speaker 1>All the time. I'm like, ah, I get annoyed and

0:32:09.365 --> 0:32:14.605
<v Speaker 1>he gets annoyed at me, and but we've made it work.

0:32:14.765 --> 0:32:17.565
<v Speaker 1>We get through it, and we up level each time

0:32:17.645 --> 0:32:21.485
<v Speaker 1>we have a conflict, there's an up leveling that happens,

0:32:22.285 --> 0:32:25.445
<v Speaker 1>and that's how we see it. So but it's been wobbly.

0:32:25.485 --> 0:32:26.805
<v Speaker 1>There have been times where it's like we're not going

0:32:26.885 --> 0:32:28.325
<v Speaker 1>to make it, but then we do.

0:32:28.685 --> 0:32:30.405
<v Speaker 3>Is it also nice in a way to have a

0:32:30.445 --> 0:32:32.765
<v Speaker 3>bit of control over the narrative because the thing is like,

0:32:32.765 --> 0:32:35.565
<v Speaker 3>if you're not putting anything out into the world, media

0:32:35.685 --> 0:32:38.765
<v Speaker 3>or tabloids or fans can kind of create their own stories.

0:32:38.765 --> 0:32:41.405
<v Speaker 3>And I'm thinking of a moment from the first episode

0:32:41.405 --> 0:32:44.605
<v Speaker 3>with Mark where you're talking about these paparazzi photos going

0:32:44.645 --> 0:32:47.085
<v Speaker 3>everywhere from a fight you were having and some people

0:32:47.085 --> 0:32:49.005
<v Speaker 3>think it was from a movie and some people are

0:32:49.045 --> 0:32:51.045
<v Speaker 3>not knowing, And do you want to tell the story

0:32:51.045 --> 0:32:52.605
<v Speaker 3>for that, because I'm wondering if people maybe just saw

0:32:52.645 --> 0:32:54.845
<v Speaker 3>the photos and wouldn't have known this kind of backstory

0:32:54.885 --> 0:32:56.045
<v Speaker 3>that led to the podcast.

0:32:56.805 --> 0:32:58.485
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, it was funny.

0:32:58.525 --> 0:33:04.085
<v Speaker 1>We were shooting a movie, so I was producing a

0:33:04.205 --> 0:33:07.125
<v Speaker 1>movie in the early days. I was twelve weeks pregnant

0:33:07.765 --> 0:33:14.205
<v Speaker 1>with our baby, our first baby, body, and I was financing.

0:33:13.485 --> 0:33:14.805
<v Speaker 4>His new movie.

0:33:15.085 --> 0:33:17.685
<v Speaker 1>And we had only been together at this point, not

0:33:17.885 --> 0:33:21.565
<v Speaker 1>very long, maybe not even a year. Wow, But I.

0:33:21.525 --> 0:33:24.485
<v Speaker 3>Mean, you've got the manifestation list working.

0:33:25.885 --> 0:33:29.845
<v Speaker 1>And what had happened was we were filming the movie

0:33:30.005 --> 0:33:33.605
<v Speaker 1>and then I found out that he had picked up

0:33:33.645 --> 0:33:39.045
<v Speaker 1>again and that he was deep in a relapse. But

0:33:39.845 --> 0:33:44.925
<v Speaker 1>a part of the addictive behavior is to conceal and

0:33:44.965 --> 0:33:51.485
<v Speaker 1>to manipulate and lie to preserve the thing that you have,

0:33:51.645 --> 0:33:55.325
<v Speaker 1>which is for him. It was this relationship, and there's

0:33:55.365 --> 0:33:58.645
<v Speaker 1>sort of a certain level of self sabotage that happened sometimes,

0:33:58.685 --> 0:34:03.125
<v Speaker 1>I think with addiction. And I did not at that

0:34:03.245 --> 0:34:06.725
<v Speaker 1>point understand addiction at all. I only judged it, and

0:34:07.725 --> 0:34:11.605
<v Speaker 1>I was water fight and I was pregnant and I

0:34:11.685 --> 0:34:16.805
<v Speaker 1>felt trapped and I was so angry, And the paparazzi

0:34:17.325 --> 0:34:21.165
<v Speaker 1>happened to be there that day when I was screaming

0:34:21.205 --> 0:34:25.125
<v Speaker 1>at him and crying and just full devastation, just like

0:34:25.725 --> 0:34:27.605
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be a single mother, I'm going to

0:34:27.685 --> 0:34:28.205
<v Speaker 1>be raising this.

0:34:28.325 --> 0:34:31.005
<v Speaker 4>But this is not the narrative.

0:34:30.605 --> 0:34:32.365
<v Speaker 1>This is not the story, This is not what I

0:34:32.445 --> 0:34:36.565
<v Speaker 1>pictured for us, like I just the it felt way

0:34:36.605 --> 0:34:43.005
<v Speaker 1>too overwhelming and they snapped these photos. But luckily because

0:34:43.045 --> 0:34:44.645
<v Speaker 1>we happened to be shooting that day and there were

0:34:44.645 --> 0:34:50.485
<v Speaker 1>some like cameras around, the Daily Mail was like, Oh,

0:34:50.525 --> 0:34:53.685
<v Speaker 1>they're filming, they're practicing for a scene, they're rehearsing, and

0:34:53.765 --> 0:34:57.645
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, I'm good that that's just maby

0:34:57.645 --> 0:35:01.765
<v Speaker 1>that's the story. But yeah, I've always felt like, if

0:35:01.845 --> 0:35:08.245
<v Speaker 1>you can share your own story, then you should, and

0:35:08.325 --> 0:35:12.805
<v Speaker 1>if you have the ability to do that, It's important

0:35:12.885 --> 0:35:17.565
<v Speaker 1>to me to humanize us and the positions that were

0:35:17.565 --> 0:35:20.885
<v Speaker 1>in because I have looked at people in the industry

0:35:20.925 --> 0:35:22.845
<v Speaker 1>who are on a pedestal and you just think they

0:35:22.885 --> 0:35:26.965
<v Speaker 1>have these perfect lives and everything, and you can't help

0:35:27.005 --> 0:35:28.925
<v Speaker 1>but be in a state of comparison, which is why

0:35:28.925 --> 0:35:29.565
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, why.

0:35:29.405 --> 0:35:31.685
<v Speaker 3>Isn't my life like that? If I just had that

0:35:31.725 --> 0:35:33.245
<v Speaker 3>one thing, I would be happy. I think it's what

0:35:33.285 --> 0:35:36.005
<v Speaker 3>we when we look at fame and people living their

0:35:36.045 --> 0:35:37.845
<v Speaker 3>dream careers. You always think, if I just had that,

0:35:37.885 --> 0:35:40.245
<v Speaker 3>I'd be happy. And as I interview more actresses through

0:35:40.285 --> 0:35:42.565
<v Speaker 3>my career or all actors, or you always find there's

0:35:42.565 --> 0:35:45.365
<v Speaker 3>always something. There's so many different layers to that success.

0:35:45.765 --> 0:35:47.725
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I you know, I feel like I had

0:35:47.765 --> 0:35:51.685
<v Speaker 1>an epiphany just recently, Like I was working on this

0:35:51.805 --> 0:35:56.885
<v Speaker 1>show mixtape, and I was sitting on this log and

0:35:56.925 --> 0:35:58.445
<v Speaker 1>we were about to shoot the scene, and I was

0:35:58.445 --> 0:36:01.205
<v Speaker 1>sitting next to my coastar Jim Sturgis, who I had

0:36:01.405 --> 0:36:04.285
<v Speaker 1>watched in Across the Universe and I'd seen him in

0:36:04.285 --> 0:36:07.725
<v Speaker 1>twenty one, and it's like the wind was blowing, there

0:36:07.645 --> 0:36:10.645
<v Speaker 1>were birds, and we were outside on this crew and

0:36:10.725 --> 0:36:14.845
<v Speaker 1>I just was like, oh my gosh, I am living

0:36:14.885 --> 0:36:17.845
<v Speaker 1>my dream, like right here in this moment. It just

0:36:18.085 --> 0:36:20.925
<v Speaker 1>dawned on me and I was emotional. I had like

0:36:21.005 --> 0:36:23.165
<v Speaker 1>a little tear running down my face, and I was like,

0:36:24.045 --> 0:36:28.605
<v Speaker 1>this is the best, and why as human beings do

0:36:28.645 --> 0:36:32.725
<v Speaker 1>we keep moving the meter, we keep pushing the bar forward.

0:36:33.085 --> 0:36:35.685
<v Speaker 1>I will be happy when this happens. And then you

0:36:35.685 --> 0:36:38.525
<v Speaker 1>get that thing, well, now, I'll be happy when I

0:36:38.605 --> 0:36:41.125
<v Speaker 1>get to this point and you keep moving the bar.

0:36:41.565 --> 0:36:43.565
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I don't want to do that anymore.

0:36:43.765 --> 0:36:45.045
<v Speaker 1>I want to just look around me and be like,

0:36:45.205 --> 0:36:48.765
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy I have everything. This is I'm so

0:36:48.845 --> 0:36:51.565
<v Speaker 1>grateful and it's okay to strive for other things and

0:36:51.605 --> 0:36:56.885
<v Speaker 1>have other goals, but sitting in a place of just recognizing,

0:36:56.965 --> 0:37:01.325
<v Speaker 1>like I can celebrate where I am right now, that

0:37:01.445 --> 0:37:02.205
<v Speaker 1>is a beautiful thing.

0:37:02.285 --> 0:37:03.725
<v Speaker 3>It must be very nice for your kids to grow

0:37:03.805 --> 0:37:06.325
<v Speaker 3>up in that environment where you're having that mindfulness and

0:37:06.365 --> 0:37:08.925
<v Speaker 3>you're and having these conversations and even thinking they could

0:37:08.925 --> 0:37:11.125
<v Speaker 3>go back and listen to your podcast and you know,

0:37:11.205 --> 0:37:12.925
<v Speaker 3>one day and see that even that moment where you

0:37:12.925 --> 0:37:14.965
<v Speaker 3>realize your parents are real people, Like there's a little

0:37:14.965 --> 0:37:16.845
<v Speaker 3>long time where they're just your mum and they exist

0:37:16.965 --> 0:37:18.685
<v Speaker 3>just for you and your dad, and then you get

0:37:18.725 --> 0:37:20.565
<v Speaker 3>to that moment where you realize they're a person with

0:37:20.605 --> 0:37:23.485
<v Speaker 3>a story in histories and faults and all those things.

0:37:23.525 --> 0:37:25.165
<v Speaker 3>It must be nice for the idea they could go

0:37:25.205 --> 0:37:26.565
<v Speaker 3>back and listen to that one day.

0:37:26.845 --> 0:37:29.965
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we talk to them about all this stuff,

0:37:30.165 --> 0:37:34.285
<v Speaker 1>like if Mark's ever feeling low or going through a

0:37:34.285 --> 0:37:37.805
<v Speaker 1>particular thing where he's missing his dad or he's thinking

0:37:37.805 --> 0:37:41.245
<v Speaker 1>about his childhood. He is so open with these children.

0:37:41.405 --> 0:37:44.245
<v Speaker 1>He just sits and he's like, you know, Dad's feeling

0:37:44.245 --> 0:37:47.405
<v Speaker 1>pretty sad right now, and I want you guys to

0:37:47.485 --> 0:37:51.085
<v Speaker 1>know that, Like it's really normal to feel sad and

0:37:51.125 --> 0:37:54.565
<v Speaker 1>to cry and to have big feelings and feelings come

0:37:54.605 --> 0:37:58.045
<v Speaker 1>and feelings go, and this is what it's about. So

0:37:58.125 --> 0:38:01.325
<v Speaker 1>they also don't personalize and think, oh, dad's upset because

0:38:01.445 --> 0:38:04.725
<v Speaker 1>because of something I've done or and we are really

0:38:05.165 --> 0:38:08.165
<v Speaker 1>we talk to them about stuff all the time and

0:38:08.205 --> 0:38:10.445
<v Speaker 1>the way we see the world and like it's just

0:38:10.805 --> 0:38:13.365
<v Speaker 1>to see the magic through their eyes away they look

0:38:13.365 --> 0:38:16.845
<v Speaker 1>at things and their deep gratitude. I didn't have that

0:38:16.885 --> 0:38:19.605
<v Speaker 1>as a kid, you know. I was just like woo woo,

0:38:20.045 --> 0:38:22.165
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I think my kids have such a

0:38:22.245 --> 0:38:27.085
<v Speaker 1>beautiful awareness and a mindfulness and we're raising really conscious

0:38:27.125 --> 0:38:32.005
<v Speaker 1>minded children, which is and spiritually rich kids, which is

0:38:32.885 --> 0:38:36.925
<v Speaker 1>wonderful and quite a departure from my experience. I had

0:38:36.925 --> 0:38:41.365
<v Speaker 1>a very dogmatic, you know, Catholic upbringing, fear based for me.

0:38:41.805 --> 0:38:43.845
<v Speaker 1>And I know that's not everyone's experience, but for me,

0:38:43.885 --> 0:38:46.325
<v Speaker 1>it was fear based. I need to be good otherwise

0:38:46.365 --> 0:38:49.045
<v Speaker 1>I'll be punished. Yeah, I won't go to heaven.

0:38:49.565 --> 0:38:50.765
<v Speaker 3>Is kind of what they tell you in a Catholic

0:38:50.805 --> 0:38:57.325
<v Speaker 3>primary school. I can relate. Yes, Yes, there was still

0:38:57.405 --> 0:39:00.645
<v Speaker 3>so much more to unpack with Teresa. So after the break,

0:39:00.725 --> 0:39:03.965
<v Speaker 3>she opens up about friendship, both in life and in

0:39:04.005 --> 0:39:08.245
<v Speaker 3>the industry, and her decision to share deeply personal moments,

0:39:08.285 --> 0:39:12.525
<v Speaker 3>including the experience of pregnancy loss that's coming up next.

0:39:16.365 --> 0:39:18.645
<v Speaker 3>So coming from that love that you have with your

0:39:18.765 --> 0:39:21.405
<v Speaker 3>family and your children. Something else I've noticed about following

0:39:21.405 --> 0:39:23.885
<v Speaker 3>your work for many years is this love that you

0:39:23.965 --> 0:39:26.925
<v Speaker 3>have for your friendships, and your female friendships in particular,

0:39:27.285 --> 0:39:29.485
<v Speaker 3>because you run your podcast and your book and everything

0:39:29.485 --> 0:39:31.645
<v Speaker 3>with Sarah right Olsen, who's an actress, I know that

0:39:31.685 --> 0:39:34.965
<v Speaker 3>you're very close. And I love that clip at the

0:39:35.005 --> 0:39:38.005
<v Speaker 3>Actor Awards this year of you presenting Phoebe Tonkin. That

0:39:38.165 --> 0:39:41.365
<v Speaker 3>was the clip that went everywhere from that show because

0:39:41.405 --> 0:39:43.085
<v Speaker 3>the look on your face when you read out her

0:39:43.125 --> 0:39:45.725
<v Speaker 3>name as Best Lead Actress and then she jumped up,

0:39:45.765 --> 0:39:48.205
<v Speaker 3>and you have this beautiful moment of and she can't

0:39:48.245 --> 0:39:52.125
<v Speaker 3>quite believe that that you've presented her with this huge award.

0:39:52.525 --> 0:39:54.685
<v Speaker 3>And then just a few weeks later, you were at

0:39:54.725 --> 0:39:58.005
<v Speaker 3>the gaday USA and she presented you with a big award.

0:39:58.045 --> 0:40:00.165
<v Speaker 3>And so it just isn't important to you to have

0:40:00.245 --> 0:40:03.245
<v Speaker 3>these friendships be like a big thread throughout your career

0:40:03.285 --> 0:40:04.045
<v Speaker 3>and your life.

0:40:04.805 --> 0:40:07.245
<v Speaker 1>I think the special thing about Phoebe is we've known

0:40:07.285 --> 0:40:10.485
<v Speaker 1>each other for so long and I have been her

0:40:10.525 --> 0:40:15.645
<v Speaker 1>biggest cheerleader for years and years and years, and I

0:40:15.725 --> 0:40:18.245
<v Speaker 1>have and I know she has too. We've both been

0:40:18.325 --> 0:40:21.445
<v Speaker 1>waiting for the moment for, you know, just the industry

0:40:21.485 --> 0:40:26.125
<v Speaker 1>to sort of catch up and recognize Phoebe is such

0:40:26.165 --> 0:40:29.525
<v Speaker 1>an immense talent. Oh yes, and she has such a

0:40:29.605 --> 0:40:35.765
<v Speaker 1>well of depth. It is absolutely beautiful on screen and

0:40:35.965 --> 0:40:38.805
<v Speaker 1>I've always seen it from the early days, and I

0:40:38.885 --> 0:40:42.965
<v Speaker 1>knew she just needed that role to really showcase that,

0:40:43.285 --> 0:40:45.405
<v Speaker 1>and then she got the role, and then she went

0:40:45.445 --> 0:40:48.605
<v Speaker 1>in and just knocked it out of the park in

0:40:48.685 --> 0:40:52.285
<v Speaker 1>every way. So she felt so deserving. And I was

0:40:52.325 --> 0:40:55.045
<v Speaker 1>actually at the actors I don't know who has won.

0:40:55.165 --> 0:40:56.285
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm presenting that a.

0:40:56.325 --> 0:40:57.925
<v Speaker 3>Well, No, I saw the surprise on your face. I

0:40:57.965 --> 0:40:58.325
<v Speaker 3>believe you.

0:40:58.845 --> 0:41:02.925
<v Speaker 1>I was practicing backstage in case she won, because I

0:41:02.925 --> 0:41:05.005
<v Speaker 1>had a feeling because as I've seen the show, and

0:41:05.045 --> 0:41:07.605
<v Speaker 1>I was like, she's so deserving. So I was practicing

0:41:07.725 --> 0:41:12.365
<v Speaker 1>saying her name in a relaxed way. Okay, just like,

0:41:12.445 --> 0:41:16.085
<v Speaker 1>and the winner is Phoebe Tonkin. That didn't happen. That

0:41:16.125 --> 0:41:18.325
<v Speaker 1>did not come across, and that did not come across.

0:41:18.405 --> 0:41:19.445
<v Speaker 4>I really tried.

0:41:20.445 --> 0:41:23.125
<v Speaker 1>Then it came out and it squeaked out of me,

0:41:23.605 --> 0:41:24.645
<v Speaker 1>and I sort.

0:41:24.365 --> 0:41:27.125
<v Speaker 4>Of squealed it like sort of screamed out of me.

0:41:27.205 --> 0:41:30.805
<v Speaker 1>And then afterwards I saw some of the other nominees

0:41:31.325 --> 0:41:34.045
<v Speaker 1>who I know in that category, and I was like,

0:41:34.285 --> 0:41:38.525
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry. I just got so excited. I just didn't.

0:41:38.565 --> 0:41:42.965
<v Speaker 1>It just burst out of me and championing her and

0:41:43.165 --> 0:41:46.605
<v Speaker 1>her being my biggest cheerleader over the years too. It's

0:41:46.725 --> 0:41:49.325
<v Speaker 1>just been such a comfort because you can ride the

0:41:49.365 --> 0:41:53.245
<v Speaker 1>waves of Hollywood and there are peaks and they're are valleys,

0:41:54.125 --> 0:41:56.805
<v Speaker 1>but we can go through it together. And there's a

0:41:56.845 --> 0:41:59.565
<v Speaker 1>whole group of us navigating at Bella heath Coat as

0:41:59.565 --> 0:42:03.205
<v Speaker 1>well as another really good friend of mine, and we

0:42:03.365 --> 0:42:06.565
<v Speaker 1>share in each other's losses and each other's wins, and

0:42:06.605 --> 0:42:12.765
<v Speaker 1>there's no room for jealousy. Is only celebration for each other.

0:42:13.485 --> 0:42:17.165
<v Speaker 1>And that has been gorgeous, and I hope that we

0:42:17.205 --> 0:42:21.045
<v Speaker 1>can lead by example. There's enough room for everyone. And

0:42:21.045 --> 0:42:23.645
<v Speaker 1>we're all different flavors and we all do different things,

0:42:23.725 --> 0:42:26.485
<v Speaker 1>and there's room for all of us, and together we

0:42:26.605 --> 0:42:29.725
<v Speaker 1>are stronger. And you know, I just worked with Russell

0:42:29.765 --> 0:42:32.565
<v Speaker 1>Crowe on Bear Country, and one of my favorite takeaways

0:42:32.965 --> 0:42:38.205
<v Speaker 1>from him is he uplifts everyone around him. He offers

0:42:38.285 --> 0:42:44.565
<v Speaker 1>opportunities to people all over this movie. We're supporting actors

0:42:44.645 --> 0:42:48.525
<v Speaker 1>and bit players and dialect coaches and people who say like,

0:42:48.605 --> 0:42:51.405
<v Speaker 1>we we owe all of this to Russell and I

0:42:51.445 --> 0:42:54.485
<v Speaker 1>was like, Oh, someone in that position could hold on

0:42:54.565 --> 0:42:58.245
<v Speaker 1>to this success themselves, but he is giving and sharing it,

0:42:58.525 --> 0:43:01.685
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I always want to be that way.

0:43:01.885 --> 0:43:05.445
<v Speaker 1>I want to just share an uplift and give and

0:43:05.525 --> 0:43:08.845
<v Speaker 1>celebrate each other. And that's what our little crew of

0:43:08.925 --> 0:43:10.005
<v Speaker 1>Ossie is actors do.

0:43:10.285 --> 0:43:12.565
<v Speaker 3>That's really lovely because you do hear I mean every industry,

0:43:12.565 --> 0:43:15.525
<v Speaker 3>but you do hear horror stories from Hollywood of especially

0:43:15.525 --> 0:43:17.725
<v Speaker 3>this idea that there's one leading lady or ever. It's

0:43:17.765 --> 0:43:19.925
<v Speaker 3>so cutthroat. And yeah, I think it was last year

0:43:19.965 --> 0:43:22.485
<v Speaker 3>that Sydney Sweeney gave an interview to Vanity Fair and

0:43:22.525 --> 0:43:25.205
<v Speaker 3>she's like, all that stuff you hear about women uplifting

0:43:25.205 --> 0:43:28.485
<v Speaker 3>women is not true. And then all these other actresses

0:43:28.565 --> 0:43:30.285
<v Speaker 3>came out and said, that's not our experience. And I

0:43:30.285 --> 0:43:33.325
<v Speaker 3>think everyone's story is their truth and they have different experiences.

0:43:33.645 --> 0:43:35.925
<v Speaker 3>But if you're saying that, you've seen a completely different

0:43:35.965 --> 0:43:38.085
<v Speaker 3>side of that in this little group that you've been

0:43:38.125 --> 0:43:40.085
<v Speaker 3>able to build and the people that you work with.

0:43:40.285 --> 0:43:42.285
<v Speaker 3>I think that's a really positive takeaway.

0:43:42.645 --> 0:43:45.005
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it feels Australian to me.

0:43:45.565 --> 0:43:48.725
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was like, we're just like you know that

0:43:48.845 --> 0:43:53.965
<v Speaker 1>Aussie matship things a very real thing. And I love

0:43:54.125 --> 0:43:56.285
<v Speaker 1>them and I want the best for them and I

0:43:56.325 --> 0:44:00.125
<v Speaker 1>want to see them shine, and I know they feel

0:44:00.165 --> 0:44:04.645
<v Speaker 1>the same about me. So it's just a gorgeous it's

0:44:04.685 --> 0:44:07.605
<v Speaker 1>a gorgeous thing, and maybe it's a rarity, but it's

0:44:07.605 --> 0:44:10.445
<v Speaker 1>definitely our experience. And it's been really beautiful.

0:44:11.285 --> 0:44:13.845
<v Speaker 3>You've talked in the past about pregnancy loss and written

0:44:13.845 --> 0:44:16.365
<v Speaker 3>so beautifully about it in your book, and then last

0:44:16.485 --> 0:44:20.325
<v Speaker 3>year sharing another story of pregnancy loss with I thought

0:44:20.365 --> 0:44:22.805
<v Speaker 3>the way you did it was really interesting to share

0:44:22.845 --> 0:44:25.045
<v Speaker 3>this video to Instagram. And I know that you also

0:44:25.045 --> 0:44:28.405
<v Speaker 3>did a podcast episode showing the joy of finding that

0:44:28.525 --> 0:44:30.965
<v Speaker 3>out and then showing the loss, and I remember just

0:44:31.005 --> 0:44:32.845
<v Speaker 3>watching that and being it's not something I've been through,

0:44:32.885 --> 0:44:34.845
<v Speaker 3>but I've supported a lot of friends through it, and

0:44:34.885 --> 0:44:37.445
<v Speaker 3>so sort of seeing that out in the world, and

0:44:37.485 --> 0:44:39.765
<v Speaker 3>I remember clicking down into the comments and just seeing

0:44:40.645 --> 0:44:44.925
<v Speaker 3>hundreds of comments from thousands, thousands of comments from women

0:44:45.285 --> 0:44:47.805
<v Speaker 3>saying thank you for this, or sharing their own stories,

0:44:47.885 --> 0:44:50.405
<v Speaker 3>And what is it like to sort of, I guess,

0:44:50.445 --> 0:44:53.325
<v Speaker 3>move through that moment of pain and grief with your family,

0:44:53.405 --> 0:44:55.805
<v Speaker 3>but also have it out there in the world and

0:44:55.845 --> 0:44:57.205
<v Speaker 3>have people reacting to it.

0:44:58.485 --> 0:45:01.885
<v Speaker 1>I think it's both things. It's like really vulnerable and scary.

0:45:01.965 --> 0:45:04.245
<v Speaker 1>Did I make the right choice? Because now also my

0:45:04.325 --> 0:45:08.565
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy announcement keeps being linked back to my pregnancy loss,

0:45:08.565 --> 0:45:10.645
<v Speaker 1>like the it can't be two separate things.

0:45:10.685 --> 0:45:11.685
<v Speaker 4>It's everything.

0:45:11.725 --> 0:45:13.725
<v Speaker 1>The media is like she's had a loss and now

0:45:13.725 --> 0:45:14.405
<v Speaker 1>she's pregnant.

0:45:14.885 --> 0:45:15.845
<v Speaker 4>So there's a part.

0:45:15.685 --> 0:45:17.885
<v Speaker 1>Of me that thinks, oh, goodness, did I make the

0:45:17.965 --> 0:45:18.445
<v Speaker 1>right choice?

0:45:18.565 --> 0:45:20.565
<v Speaker 3>But I know that I did, because well, we just

0:45:20.605 --> 0:45:21.725
<v Speaker 3>read those comments, and you know.

0:45:22.325 --> 0:45:26.005
<v Speaker 1>Exactly it was the comments, and I read all of them,

0:45:26.085 --> 0:45:28.965
<v Speaker 1>and I spent days love hearting every single one and

0:45:29.005 --> 0:45:31.005
<v Speaker 1>trying to write back to as many as I could.

0:45:31.725 --> 0:45:38.365
<v Speaker 1>But I also acknowledge that I have four beautiful, biological,

0:45:39.005 --> 0:45:41.965
<v Speaker 1>healthy children that I was able to get pregnant with

0:45:42.165 --> 0:45:47.565
<v Speaker 1>and grow and birth and they're healthy, and that already

0:45:47.605 --> 0:45:51.125
<v Speaker 1>can be triggering for some people. And I wanted to

0:45:52.045 --> 0:45:57.885
<v Speaker 1>put out there that I also went through a pregnancy loss,

0:45:57.965 --> 0:46:01.485
<v Speaker 1>and yes, I have these beautiful, healthy children, and you

0:46:01.565 --> 0:46:04.005
<v Speaker 1>have the right to grieve a loss no matter how

0:46:04.005 --> 0:46:06.925
<v Speaker 1>many children you have. There are some women who can't

0:46:06.965 --> 0:46:10.925
<v Speaker 1>even get pregnant, and they long and long and long

0:46:11.005 --> 0:46:15.285
<v Speaker 1>to be a mother. And I feel like all stories

0:46:15.605 --> 0:46:19.525
<v Speaker 1>should be valid and all stories should be celebrated and told.

0:46:19.925 --> 0:46:22.365
<v Speaker 1>And I just thought, I want to put this out

0:46:22.405 --> 0:46:24.565
<v Speaker 1>there because to a lot of people, they just look

0:46:24.605 --> 0:46:25.645
<v Speaker 1>at me as like a breeder.

0:46:25.845 --> 0:46:27.045
<v Speaker 4>I just have all these children.

0:46:27.165 --> 0:46:31.325
<v Speaker 1>But also I suffered a loss, and I thought I

0:46:31.405 --> 0:46:33.565
<v Speaker 1>was having this baby. I mean, you get pregnant, and

0:46:33.565 --> 0:46:35.685
<v Speaker 1>I think I took it for granted because I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had that experience before. I did very early on. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a mold of pregnancy back in twenty fifteen, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was about six weeks pregnant. And it's for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the breaking up with the dream that the dream

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<v Speaker 1>of who this baby is, when they're going to be born,

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<v Speaker 1>what the age GAP's going to be. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to show the high of that and the excitement

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<v Speaker 1>with the kids, and then show the dream dissipating and

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<v Speaker 1>that feeling of oh is this never going to happen again.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was important to me, you know, And we

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<v Speaker 1>had pushback on our book.

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<v Speaker 4>We dedicated an entire chapter to pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, and so it's a really beautiful chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>It really kind of hits you for people who have

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<v Speaker 3>been through that and for people who have that, for

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<v Speaker 3>people in their lives and want to have a small

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<v Speaker 3>idea of how to support them through it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my co host went on to have back

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<v Speaker 1>to back to back to back losses and she's now

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant at forty one. I saw that with her rainbow baby,

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<v Speaker 1>who like triple quadruple rainbow baby.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Really important to dedicate that time to writing that chapter

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<v Speaker 1>in our book. This is ze Muma's Guide to finding

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<v Speaker 1>your path.

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<v Speaker 4>Who through Pregnancy, birth and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you know, initially everyone was like, why would you

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<v Speaker 1>want to write about loss and a pregnancy and birth book.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, because it's a part of.

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<v Speaker 1>The journey one and four one and four women go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. It's really important to have all those different

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<v Speaker 3>stories out there, which actually think is a beautiful thread

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<v Speaker 3>in your new show, The Last Anniversary, which I loved,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, so have he. Because we see all

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<v Speaker 3>these different versions of motherhood, we see relationships between adult

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<v Speaker 3>mother and daughters. The first episode, you see a woman

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<v Speaker 3>become a mother in sort of in a moment where

0:48:21.725 --> 0:48:24.045
<v Speaker 3>the pregnancy comes very early and you see her sort

0:48:24.045 --> 0:48:26.245
<v Speaker 3>of struggling to bond with the baby. And then your

0:48:26.325 --> 0:48:28.485
<v Speaker 3>character Sophie, which I'm going to say that's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most realistic portrayals I've seen of a woman who's

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<v Speaker 3>dating but also aware. Like that moment your character stands

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<v Speaker 3>in front of the mirror and goes, you're thirty nine,

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<v Speaker 3>just give him another chance, and then you see she's

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<v Speaker 3>going through a freezing her eggs process and wanting to

0:48:42.165 --> 0:48:45.085
<v Speaker 3>become a mother so badly. Is that something that drew

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<v Speaker 3>you to the storyline as those threads of motherhood in

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<v Speaker 3>this new series.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, of course I was really drawn to that. In particular,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the postpartum depression the way that's portrayed in

0:48:58.005 --> 0:49:03.205
<v Speaker 1>our show is so delicately woven in but very realistic.

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<v Speaker 4>And the kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Disconnect that the character Grace has after she gives birth,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's such a real loss of identity and

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<v Speaker 1>not understanding who she is or why she should love

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<v Speaker 1>this baby, but knowing that she's meant to. That's meant

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<v Speaker 1>to come naturally to her, and because it doesn't, she

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<v Speaker 1>feels like a failure.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you see the evolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Of this character and how it gets worse and gets better,

0:49:30.285 --> 0:49:32.365
<v Speaker 1>and it gets worse and it gets better. And that

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that sort of swinging pendulum experience with postpartum depression.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't experience it myself what my mom did. So

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<v Speaker 1>the way my mom talks about and explains it is

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<v Speaker 1>the good days of bad days, the good days a

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<v Speaker 1>bad day. So that's so well done in our show.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels very real and Claude Scott Mitchell is breathtaking,

0:49:55.245 --> 0:49:59.965
<v Speaker 1>incredible breath taking. Her performance is exquisite in this. And

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<v Speaker 1>then of course my character who's longing to be a

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<v Speaker 1>mother and she's seeing these dynamics of these women with

0:50:06.725 --> 0:50:09.565
<v Speaker 1>their children all around her, and it's very confronted. And

0:50:09.645 --> 0:50:12.725
<v Speaker 1>then so she sort of entertains the idea of dating

0:50:12.725 --> 0:50:14.245
<v Speaker 1>a douchebag who's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Treating her well.

0:50:15.365 --> 0:50:17.645
<v Speaker 1>He's the worst guy you could possibly imagine, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like you're getting old chance. Yeah, give him a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure people can relate to that. And that's

0:50:24.885 --> 0:50:28.805
<v Speaker 1>a special thing about our show. It's multi generational. So

0:50:28.845 --> 0:50:31.645
<v Speaker 1>it's a family drama, but there are access points to

0:50:32.245 --> 0:50:36.005
<v Speaker 1>everyone at all ages, at all seasons of life. There's

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<v Speaker 1>someone that you can relate to, and they have this beautiful,

0:50:40.045 --> 0:50:45.445
<v Speaker 1>imperfect dance with this their life and their their things

0:50:45.445 --> 0:50:48.565
<v Speaker 1>that they struggle with and they're hardships and just being

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<v Speaker 1>a woman and what does that mean? And I just

0:50:51.685 --> 0:50:56.245
<v Speaker 1>think Leanne Moriarty is a genius. I mean we all know.

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<v Speaker 4>This, We've read her books.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got this beautiful recipe and she knows how to

0:51:02.685 --> 0:51:05.885
<v Speaker 1>weave in real stories, meaningful stories. But then at the

0:51:05.925 --> 0:51:10.805
<v Speaker 1>heart of it, there's the underpinning. Is this twists, this mystery,

0:51:10.845 --> 0:51:16.005
<v Speaker 1>this secret lies, And it's really well done and I

0:51:16.045 --> 0:51:17.845
<v Speaker 1>think it's going to captivate audiences.

0:51:18.125 --> 0:51:20.765
<v Speaker 3>I definitely think that as well. Oh Treesa, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much for again being so open here and in

0:51:22.885 --> 0:51:24.525
<v Speaker 3>your life. And I can't wait to see the rest

0:51:24.565 --> 0:51:27.005
<v Speaker 3>of the show. It's just incredible. Thank you, Thank you

0:51:27.085 --> 0:51:27.525
<v Speaker 3>so much.

0:51:27.565 --> 0:51:28.685
<v Speaker 4>This is wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was lucky enough to attend the premiere of

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<v Speaker 3>the Last Anniversary and it really is such an incredible show.

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<v Speaker 3>I have just been loving the new episodes that are

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<v Speaker 3>dropping weekly on bind and Theresa Palmer's performance in it

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<v Speaker 3>is just incredible. So if you want to know more,

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<v Speaker 3>we have put all the links in our show notes.

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<v Speaker 3>The executive producer of No Filter is Niama Brown, Senior

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<v Speaker 3>producer is Grace Rufray, sound design is Jacob Brown, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Laura Brodnick. It's been a pleasure to be your

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<v Speaker 3>No Filter guest host today. Kate Langroup will be backing

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<v Speaker 3>your ears on Monday with another captivating No Filter story.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye. No