Speaker 1: Naturally. I think you're going to have self doubt in
Speaker 1: anything you do in life, and I think we all
Speaker 1: do it. But it's just backing yourself, and I guess
Speaker 1: using your mate, or your family or your teammates to
Speaker 1: help pump you up when you need it. I think, well,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't have to wait for something really significant
Speaker 1: in my life to make a change. Actually I can
Speaker 1: make that change now and be proactive and go actually
Speaker 1: find my happiness, and find the happiness for my family
Speaker 1: in particular, and help myself be a better human.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Sees the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy
Speaker 2: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what
Speaker 2: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but
Speaker 2: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than
Speaker 2: one way. So this is a platform to hear and
Speaker 2: explore the stories of.
Speaker 3: Those who found lives. They adore, the good.
Speaker 2: Bad and ugly, The best and worst day will bear
Speaker 2: all the facets of seizing your yay. I'm Sarah Davidson
Speaker 2: or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned fu entrepreneur
Speaker 2: whos wapped the suits and heels to co found matcha
Speaker 2: Maiden and matcham milk Bark. Seize the Yeah is a
Speaker 2: series of conversations on finding a life you love and
Speaker 2: exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way.
Speaker 2: Lovely neighborhood if you're getting sick of the Antarctica content,
Speaker 2: although who could get sick of penguins? This week we're
Speaker 2: back to our regular programming with one of the loveliest,
Speaker 2: most well adjusted and inspiring human beings. You know those
Speaker 2: people who you speak to and they just have such
Speaker 2: a good head on their shoulders that you want to
Speaker 2: be around them all. This is one of them. And
Speaker 2: I didn't realize this until after we finished recording, but
Speaker 2: we have the same birthday, just a year apart, so
Speaker 2: it was always going to be love at first chat
Speaker 2: for me, especially having followed this guest from AFAR for
Speaker 2: so many years. I'm talking, of course, about Alyssa Healey,
Speaker 2: a superstar Australian cricketer who joined us from Mumbai in India,
Speaker 2: where she's currently captaining the Australian Women's Tea twenty team.
Speaker 2: The things Alissa has achieved in her career to date
Speaker 2: as far too many to list here. Her Wikipedia is incredible,
Speaker 2: but right back from the early days when she was
Speaker 2: the first girl to play among boys in the Private
Speaker 2: Schools competition. Alissa has continued to change cricket, both women's
Speaker 2: and men's since then. Just one of the many records
Speaker 2: she has set. In April this year, she nabbed the
Speaker 2: highest ever score in a World Cup final, user being
Speaker 2: Adam Gilchris's previous record of one hundred and forty nine
Speaker 2: runs in two thousand and seven and Ricky Ponting's of
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty in two thousand and three. But
Speaker 2: the most amazing part about Alyssa is how humble she
Speaker 2: is about these achievements and her impact on the sport,
Speaker 2: her reluctance to even compare men's and women's performances in cricket,
Speaker 2: and the perspective she has on life and yay beyond
Speaker 2: cricket itself. I'll let you hear the rest from Melissa herself.
Speaker 2: But even if you have no interest in cricket whatsoever,
Speaker 2: I think you'll still love her as much as I do.
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Alissa heally, Alissa, welcome to CEZA.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for having me. I'm excited.
Speaker 3: I'm excited. I can't believe you're in Mumbai.
Speaker 1: I am in Mumbai. I am on the opposite side.
Speaker 1: Oh it's not really the opposite side of.
Speaker 3: The world, is it feels that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in Mumbai. It's amazing what we can do.
Speaker 2: I know, amazing the technology these days, it's a miracle
Speaker 2: when it works.
Speaker 1: I sound like my mom, but yes, the technology is incredible.
Speaker 2: And I'm even more excited because at the time when
Speaker 2: we lined this up, I think it was pre Calm Games.
Speaker 2: It was pre a lot of things that have happened
Speaker 2: for you this year, and you have such a busy
Speaker 2: schedule coming up, but you are also now captain, and
Speaker 2: I did not expect that when I first knew that
Speaker 2: I was going to be chatting to you.
Speaker 3: So huge congratulations. That's so exciting.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, I captain over here in India for
Speaker 1: these five T twenties, which is really exciting for someone
Speaker 1: who's been around the group for as long as I am.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see how it all unfolds. But
Speaker 1: I'm also sort of hoping that Men comes back and
Speaker 1: takes the reins again. So I'm a little bit on
Speaker 1: both camps there.
Speaker 2: You've got like a glory, little tester, to just do
Speaker 2: the five matches, see how you go, and then you
Speaker 2: can It's like you know when people have a baby
Speaker 2: and you're like, I love baby when I get to
Speaker 2: hold your baby, but then I get to give it
Speaker 2: back when it starts crying.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm in this little, amazing, little honeymoon period where
Speaker 1: it's a pretty what is it glossy at the moment,
Speaker 1: but as soon as we if we drop a couple
Speaker 1: of games and it's like handbal handble, I'm only kidding.
Speaker 1: It's a real honor, And yeah, it's something I'm really
Speaker 1: pumped about doing well.
Speaker 2: I definitely want to get into. You know, I feel
Speaker 2: like self doubt and the imposter syndrome of getting a
Speaker 2: role like that.
Speaker 3: I've read a couple of articles on.
Speaker 2: How it did take you a little while to kind
Speaker 2: of feel okay to take on the role. And also
Speaker 2: it's interesting you mentioned glossy because the first question I
Speaker 2: always start with is to ask everyone what the most
Speaker 2: down to earth thing is about them, particularly with guests
Speaker 2: like you, where if we watch you from the outside,
Speaker 2: there's so many records and accolades and so much objective
Speaker 2: success and gloss.
Speaker 3: You're touring the world.
Speaker 2: You're doing what you love, what you've loved since you
Speaker 2: were a kid. But I'm sure there are also some
Speaker 2: pretty raw, normal, down to earth, messy kind of things
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. So right up front, what would you
Speaker 2: say is the most relatable thing about you?
Speaker 1: Well, it could be as simple as I absolutely one
Speaker 1: of my most favorite things to do at home when
Speaker 1: I'm at home, which is, you know, sort of rare
Speaker 1: throughout the year, is to play golf with this group
Speaker 1: of amazing slightly older They don't let me call them
Speaker 1: the old ladies at long Reef anymore, but the older
Speaker 1: group of ladies at long Reef that I've got maybe
Speaker 1: twelve more mums at long Reef, and I absolutely love
Speaker 1: going to play golf with them on a Thursday and
Speaker 1: sitting down having lunch with them after with an alcoholic
Speaker 1: ginger beer. I don't know, It's just something that I
Speaker 1: absolutely love doing and it keeps me the most grounded.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I really love peanut butter. So
Speaker 1: if no one can relate to that, then I don't
Speaker 1: know who you are, but I love peanut butter. I've
Speaker 1: proved on basically everything, so if that helps, I'm just
Speaker 1: staring at my tub of peanut butter up there right now?
Speaker 1: Then I had for Brickie.
Speaker 2: So the way that I often get people who aren't
Speaker 2: sure how to answer this to answer is by saying, like,
Speaker 2: what would only someone who's traveled with you or who
Speaker 2: lives with you know?
Speaker 3: So I feel like the peanut butter one's a really
Speaker 3: good one, because right it's life.
Speaker 2: One of my best friends has a peanut allergy, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, babe, babe.
Speaker 3: How right? I'm like, you're missing out on so much life.
Speaker 3: Are you crunchy or smooth?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm a I'm an either or I
Speaker 1: don't discriminate, I will either. Yeah, I've got crunchy on
Speaker 1: the go at the moment, but my smooth bottle is
Speaker 1: just sitting there waiting to be opened. It's screaming at
Speaker 1: me to be open. But crunchy is on the run.
Speaker 2: Well, you're so open minded. I'm just not that inclusive.
Speaker 2: It's like crunchy all over it. Smooth wouldn't break for it.
Speaker 1: Just no, Yeah, okay, sometimes I just like the ease,
Speaker 1: the ease of smooth. But I do think you need
Speaker 1: some crunch in your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah. On the specificity, right of these details. It's important.
Speaker 1: It's very important. It's important to life.
Speaker 3: I love the golfing as well.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's so beautiful that you do have
Speaker 2: time or you do make time when you are at
Speaker 2: home for things that are I know it's so cliche,
Speaker 2: but going back to basics, like just spending time with
Speaker 2: real people hitting a ball around that's not the ball
Speaker 2: that you're paid to hit around. You know, it's a
Speaker 2: little bit different. Even though I do read that you
Speaker 2: have a handicup of seven, which like pretty messed up amazing,
Speaker 2: so obviously not chillin' while you're playing golf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not easy, but that's fine. I love it.
Speaker 1: I like I genuinely these ladies have become a big
Speaker 1: part of my life, which is awesome. They come to
Speaker 1: like all my creat games and it's just like it's
Speaker 1: an unbelievable story. I think I rave about them all
Speaker 1: the time, but they just yeah, they're like the normal
Speaker 1: for me. When I go home, I get to have
Speaker 1: a round with them, which is cool.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that. And they're probably also just not
Speaker 2: phased by how famous you are.
Speaker 1: Are.
Speaker 3: They just like, oh, it's just just you know, I
Speaker 3: live that or Midge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Midge. Well, funnily enough, one of the ladies is
Speaker 1: actually like touch Football Australia Hall of Famer. She like
Speaker 1: played forever coach forever and is like one of the
Speaker 1: biggest dogs I've ever met that no one's ever heard about.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you can't actually normal would I, but
Speaker 1: you can't really big note an amazing things around that
Speaker 1: golf club in particular that you probably wouldn't have heard about.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of cool for me to learn all
Speaker 1: that too, which is I find cool.
Speaker 3: Oh, I love that so much.
Speaker 2: So one of the things that I find the most
Speaker 2: interesting when I'm lucky enough to sit down with someone
Speaker 2: like you, is that often people walk into your life
Speaker 2: at the chapter you're own now, particularly when you are
Speaker 2: getting accolades like Captain and you've set records, and I
Speaker 2: think it can look like either you were always going
Speaker 2: to get there, particularly if you had family in cricket,
Speaker 2: or you know, it looks smooth from the outside. But
Speaker 2: I also think it's so fascinating to get the chance
Speaker 2: to chat for a little longer to someone because you
Speaker 2: can go back to when they were a kid, when
Speaker 2: they had no idea where they were going to end up,
Speaker 2: what other things you liked, what the pathway actually looked like,
Speaker 2: and also the shitty bits along the way that you
Speaker 2: don't really get to talk about as much. So can
Speaker 2: you take us all the way back to childhood?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 2: You know, sport is a big part of so many
Speaker 2: of our lives, but not many actually go on to
Speaker 2: make it their full time job, either because they can't,
Speaker 2: they talk themselves out of it, they don't have the ability,
Speaker 2: or for whatever reason. You know, it's it's not often
Speaker 2: that what you dream you're going to be you actually become.
Speaker 3: So how did it all start for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I think probably like most young Aussies at
Speaker 1: the time time, I played every single sport under the sun,
Speaker 1: and I did everything I possibly could to get out
Speaker 1: of school. It's not that I didn't like school, it's
Speaker 1: just that, like I could be doing something else outside
Speaker 1: at the time, so that involved sport for me. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't really until we moved. My family's all from Queensland. Obviously,
Speaker 1: with the last name herely you'd kind of put two
Speaker 1: and two together that we're all lived in Queensland. But
Speaker 1: my dad took a job down in New South Wales
Speaker 1: when I was seven, and it wasn't until we moved
Speaker 1: down then that I got into cricket. Always played in
Speaker 1: the backyard. It was sort of something you did around
Speaker 1: Christmas time with all the relatives, and I was kind
Speaker 1: of normal. But I kind of fell into it when
Speaker 1: we moved down to Sydney. But I quite literally played
Speaker 1: everything like I played all sports. I loved soccer, but
Speaker 1: I also really loved hockey. I sort of got into
Speaker 1: that when I was in primary school. One of the
Speaker 1: teachers actually dragged me across. It was part of a
Speaker 1: big hockey family and I loved playing hockey. I always
Speaker 1: thought that maybe i'd be a hockey row. I thought
Speaker 1: that would be the most amazing thing, going to the
Speaker 1: Olympics and were near gold medal and doing that. But
Speaker 1: for some reason, I kept playing cricket. It was just
Speaker 1: like the constant in my life, Like it was there
Speaker 1: every summer. I was playing with the boys and that
Speaker 1: was just all I really knew. So yeah, that was
Speaker 1: sort of how I was as a kid. I was
Speaker 1: out in the sunshine, I was playing sport. I was
Speaker 1: loving life and just a sort of a happy little girl,
Speaker 1: lucky kid that really enjoyed that stuff, and yeah, cricket
Speaker 1: just seemed to be a constant for me. And here
Speaker 1: I am thirty two, still going, So who knows.
Speaker 3: Did you ever consider anything else?
Speaker 2: Because I also feel like sport is quite similar to
Speaker 2: the arts as well, where there are young kids who
Speaker 2: were so passionate and so good at what they do,
Speaker 2: but in their brain it's like, well, but what's a career.
Speaker 2: You know, what's going to be the sensible thing to do?
Speaker 2: You often don't indulge the idea that you could make
Speaker 2: it professionally. Did you ever think of a backup plan
Speaker 2: or a plan B, or did you just go, like,
Speaker 2: balls out, I'm going to be a sports person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess for me at that time, it
Speaker 1: wasn't really an option to be a sports person full time,
Speaker 1: so I guess naturally I would have had a backup plan.
Speaker 1: You know, I worked ATKC when I finished school, so
Speaker 1: I mean New Beauty, I love that. Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: high hopes of managing you know the Collonbood KFC store.
Speaker 3: But store manager, babe store manager.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was actually doing my manager's course when I
Speaker 1: first got picked for Australia to go over to the
Speaker 1: World Cup and I was almost finished it, and I
Speaker 1: asked them, like, you know, I'm gonna have to quit
Speaker 1: because I've just been picked for Australia and it's a
Speaker 1: pretty big deal. And they literally said, oh no, well
Speaker 1: we'll keep you on the books just in case you
Speaker 1: feel like you want to have shifts when you come back.
Speaker 1: Never went back, so sorry.
Speaker 2: But I love that that was the backup plan, Like
Speaker 2: I can always go back to managing the store and
Speaker 2: eating my popcorn chicken like amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, funnily enough, my dad, when I was finishing school, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been in corporate life his whole life, sort of
Speaker 1: financial stuff, and he really wanted me to go into
Speaker 1: sort of a corporate role, and I think he saw
Speaker 1: me as a bit of a future in HR for
Speaker 1: some reason. And now that I know what HR is,
Speaker 1: I don't know why he thought. I was sort of like, yeah, ok, Dad,
Speaker 1: like brush it off. Anyway. I was scrolling through my
Speaker 1: UAE guide when you finish school and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what am I going to do at UNI? And I
Speaker 1: chose marine biology just to just to really rub it
Speaker 1: into Dad that I didn't want to go, so I
Speaker 1: guess I would have loved to have been a marine biologist,
Speaker 1: but fortunately enough, my sister in LAWA is doing that
Speaker 1: right now and traveling the world doing that, which is
Speaker 1: pretty amazing. So I just live vicariously through her and
Speaker 1: play sports. I'm pretty lucky.
Speaker 3: Oh amazing.
Speaker 2: I literally the episode that just came out before you
Speaker 2: as a marine biologist. I just came back from Antarctica.
Speaker 2: I was there from marmuzing. She's just so random.
Speaker 3: But I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: People, everyone I know wanted to be a marine bilogist
Speaker 2: when we were younger, without knowing what it was.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, they exist in real life.
Speaker 1: I do exist, Yeah, and some of them have the
Speaker 1: best jobs in the world, and some of them literally
Speaker 1: fish out, like fish pooh out of the aquarium. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you've got to just go
Speaker 1: make your own part in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's interesting that you mentioned that when you were younger,
Speaker 2: the dreams that you might have had to be a
Speaker 2: full time sports person, ticular sportswoman and particularly in cricket,
Speaker 2: that full time sports careers were not necessarily an option then.
Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the hardest things about dreaming,
Speaker 2: is that if there's no visibility. You don't actually know
Speaker 2: you can become something because you've never seen someone do it.
Speaker 2: And what's been incredible about your career is that you've
Speaker 2: been that person who has done a lot of first
Speaker 2: as a female cricketer that is now helping really change
Speaker 2: the entire sport, which is something that you know, being
Speaker 2: the first to do these things is incredible. But I
Speaker 2: can imagine also really hard and really scary. And we
Speaker 2: all have self doubt anyway, let alone when we have
Speaker 2: other people doubting us at the same time.
Speaker 3: So it started for you.
Speaker 2: I mean I was reading even back at school you
Speaker 2: were the first girl to play among boys in the
Speaker 2: private schools competition in New South Wales.
Speaker 3: What was that like?
Speaker 2: Were there boys who wanted you to get off the field?
Speaker 2: Were you nervous? Did you feel like what am I
Speaker 2: doing here? Or were you just kind of like I'm just.
Speaker 3: Going to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it wasn't any different for me. I
Speaker 1: played with the boys since under nine, so like I
Speaker 1: started playing cricket in a boys competition with boys, I
Speaker 1: was the only girl at last. Perry was in the
Speaker 1: age group below me, I think, in the same competition,
Speaker 1: so there was girls around, but there was no all
Speaker 1: girls team in those younger age groups at the time.
Speaker 1: So for me, when I got to Barker and got
Speaker 1: approached they obviously they'd stopped playing women's cricket at Barker
Speaker 1: just for lack of numbers. But I got approached when
Speaker 1: I was in year eleven by the head of cricket
Speaker 1: at the Times say would you be interested in trialing
Speaker 1: for the boys team? And I've thought I said no,
Speaker 1: like why, Like what do you want before? Like I
Speaker 1: was sort of in the New South Wales squad. I
Speaker 1: was sort of kind of creating my own path in
Speaker 1: the women's game externally, and he encouraged me to do it,
Speaker 1: and I said, okay, sure, but you know, just pick
Speaker 1: me where I fit, Like you don't need to pick
Speaker 1: me in the first eleven if I'm not good enough,
Speaker 1: like just because I don't know you feel bad or
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. Like I'm okay, if you pick
Speaker 1: me in the first I'll play seconds, I'll play thirds
Speaker 1: wherever you see me. And yeah, that was a really
Speaker 1: cool experience for me. I mean, it wasn't any different
Speaker 1: for me. It was a bit unusual for the boys,
Speaker 1: like having a girl around. But I think at the
Speaker 1: same time I was so well supported by the school
Speaker 1: and my teammates in that it made it a really
Speaker 1: cool and enjoyable experience. I got to, you know, we
Speaker 1: traveled over to Perth to play this amazing little School's
Speaker 1: Cup sort of thing, and I had a whole wing
Speaker 1: to myself in the boarding house, like just because it
Speaker 1: was all boys, and you know, I got to play
Speaker 1: against some amazing young cricketers up and coming in Australian cricket,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I just I've genuinely felt like it helped
Speaker 1: me develop my cricket at the time, and I think
Speaker 1: the fact that I felt so supported throughout, you know,
Speaker 1: made it easy to do that. And at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, yes, there was a negative email being
Speaker 1: written by a past schoolboy alumni sort of saying how
Speaker 1: disappointing it was that there was a girl and the team.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, we won the
Speaker 1: competition and I actually had a half decent year. So
Speaker 1: he can suck it. That's what I always say. I'm like,
Speaker 1: he can suck it. I genuinely always hope that I
Speaker 1: get to meet the guy that wrote that one day
Speaker 1: and sort of see if he's changed his opinion of
Speaker 1: me and also of cricket and knowing how sort of
Speaker 1: accepting it is nowadays in what's that twelve years later?
Speaker 1: Thirteen years later? So yeah, look, it wasn't any different
Speaker 1: for me. I can't say that it was because it's
Speaker 1: all I'd ever known. So it was just a fun
Speaker 1: experience for me.
Speaker 2: That is so cool, and it's so cool now that
Speaker 2: women's cricket has also had time to show that. Like
Speaker 2: I was reading through some of your records and they're like,
Speaker 2: you know, new record for most dismissals as a wicket
Speaker 2: keeper male or female in twenty twenty international cricket. Like
Speaker 2: it's the records aren't females records and male records. It's
Speaker 2: like cricketers records and women hold them, and that is
Speaker 2: so cool. I don't think there are other sports really
Speaker 2: where you know, women's cricket, the pace and speed of it,
Speaker 2: you can hold records that are genderlest which is absolutely incredible.
Speaker 2: And that you held a Guinness World record for a
Speaker 2: little while for the highest catch of a cricket ball ever, Like,
Speaker 2: what the hell, that's amazing?
Speaker 1: What the hell is right? Because I'm horrendous under a
Speaker 1: high ball. So yeah, that was good fun. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the beauty of cricket. I
Speaker 1: mean I always often like to say, there's no real
Speaker 1: need to compare us and the men's game. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's right for either side to sort of make comparisons,
Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily think that that's fair. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, it is a sport where you can
Speaker 1: compare those sorts of things dismissals, wickets, you know, runs
Speaker 1: made purely by the amount of games that you've played.
Speaker 1: So I think that's a really cool part about our sport.
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you make general comparisons about you know,
Speaker 1: the style of play or the boundary, how far they're
Speaker 1: hitting the ball or bowling, how fast they're bowling, I
Speaker 1: think that's a bit unfair on us in particular. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff's really cool. So cool.
Speaker 3: So for you.
Speaker 2: Now have, like looking at a schedule, you're according from Mumbai,
Speaker 2: you're playing five twenty twenty matches, then you've got a
Speaker 2: home series against Pakistan, the World Cup in fab in
Speaker 2: South Africa. I usually ask like a day in the
Speaker 2: life of an elite cricketer, because for most people you
Speaker 2: know who don't know an elite cricketer, they don't know
Speaker 2: what your life actually looks like and what it involves,
Speaker 2: but also your year, like how do you structure your seasons?
Speaker 2: And I think one of the coolest things about cricket
Speaker 2: is that there's like test matches, there's the BBL, there's
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, Like there's so many different formats as well
Speaker 2: that you can never get bored of one thing because
Speaker 2: there's always something else. But then how do you manage
Speaker 2: your energy? So what does your year look like? And
Speaker 2: then behind the scenes, what does your prep for all
Speaker 2: of those things also look like?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, funnily enough, you ask that question because it's
Speaker 1: actually become super relevant in the women's game as we
Speaker 1: sort of grow in our professionalism and there's all these
Speaker 1: new little opportunities of domestic tournaments around the world coming up.
Speaker 1: We've actually lost the ability to not that we don't
Speaker 1: have downtime, but we've lost the ability to rest and
Speaker 1: have a preseason. We've been so used to getting time
Speaker 1: off around April every year and then you sort of
Speaker 1: come back into the sport in sort of June, and
Speaker 1: then you do a pre season block and then you
Speaker 1: go away for domestic cricket or you go and play
Speaker 1: international creet Now that with the schedule being so jam
Speaker 1: packed with international cricket and domestic leagues, there's actually no
Speaker 1: opportunity to do that preseason anymore. So it's actually a
Speaker 1: real shift in mindset at the moment about how we're
Speaker 1: maintaining ourselves as we go and how we keep sort
Speaker 1: of growing physically and also giving ourselves mental rest throughout
Speaker 1: all this time and playing so much cricket. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the year at the moment is fairly hectic, and there's
Speaker 1: a great opportunity with the Women's IPLs starting in March
Speaker 1: this year for the first time, which is a huge
Speaker 1: opportunity for sport over here in India and women's sport
Speaker 1: in particular to get that off the ground, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure that there's a lot of ouzzy girls that will
Speaker 1: want to be a part of that and go and
Speaker 1: take up that opportunity. So we get April off sort
Speaker 1: of every year, it's a bit of a down period
Speaker 1: for us with a heavy back end of the year
Speaker 1: within away ashes as well. That's yeah, it's going to
Speaker 1: be pretty ectic, but it's good fun.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, how do you like time wise?
Speaker 3: And with your body as well. It's really interesting.
Speaker 2: I think so many people's jobs don't necessarily depend on
Speaker 2: their physicality, like they need to be healthy, of course,
Speaker 2: but the job itself isn't physically doing stuff. So are
Speaker 2: you like in the gym and doing cricket training? Like
Speaker 2: do you cross train? How many days a week are
Speaker 2: you actually doing physical stuff? How many days you have downtime?
Speaker 2: Is there any admin that you have to do? Like
Speaker 2: how is your actual work life divided?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I have life admin every day that I have
Speaker 1: to do, and I put that to the side, paying
Speaker 1: bills and mortgages and move that on. But yeah, look,
Speaker 1: it is a fairly physical spot. I mean you've got
Speaker 1: to have some level of I guess fitness and endurance
Speaker 1: to play it, and also strength as well to get
Speaker 1: your body in the right position a lot of the time.
Speaker 1: So there's obviously a heavy skill focus in the game,
Speaker 1: and that takes a lot of training. That's most days
Speaker 1: a week, and you sort of take the downtime when
Speaker 1: you get it. Like where we're on too, are we
Speaker 1: train basically every day but a lot of those sessions
Speaker 1: are optional. So if you feel like you've got enough
Speaker 1: of what you need, or you need a day off,
Speaker 1: you could take that. But yeah, a lot of the
Speaker 1: time we actually spend in the gym or sort of
Speaker 1: running at training just to make sure that we're physically
Speaker 1: you in tip top shape to go. But a lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff we do in the gym, for me personally,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of power based stuff with the position
Speaker 1: that I play in the side, and a lot of
Speaker 1: rehab or prehab as well to make sure that my
Speaker 1: body can last. And it's done an amazing job to
Speaker 1: last this long at thirty two without being the exact
Speaker 1: temple that are probably a lot of athletes treat their
Speaker 1: body like. So I've been really lucky. But I think
Speaker 1: it comes down to honestly switching off and giving yourself downtime.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm quite good at that, and I've
Speaker 1: really worked really hard at sort of having a work
Speaker 1: life balance and really enjoying my time away from the game,
Speaker 1: and I think that really helps you stay mentally fresh,
Speaker 1: and for some reason, I feel like if you're mentally fresh,
Speaker 1: your body will play along as well. So I feel
Speaker 1: like that sort of helped me throughout my career and
Speaker 1: it seems to do wonders. So when you get the downtime,
Speaker 1: you just use it to the best of your ability.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that sounds so balanced. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: need to talk to you more about this because I'm
Speaker 2: not great at it. But speaking of that mental game
Speaker 2: and having your sort of head in the right spot,
Speaker 2: particularly with like one of the things we talk about
Speaker 2: the most on CZA in the pathway, like forging your
Speaker 2: pathway in life, particularly when you're aiming for something that's
Speaker 2: competitive as well, is the self doubt piece around you know,
Speaker 2: am I good enough? And when everything you do is
Speaker 2: measured as well, and measured publicly like a lot of
Speaker 2: people are measuring themselves, but behind closed doors you're kind
Speaker 2: of like on international television doing those things. And then
Speaker 2: there's injury and it's a winning game.
Speaker 3: You know you're winning or losing. So it's very binary.
Speaker 2: Like even reading about taking up this position, how I
Speaker 2: think it was, Christine McLaughlin from Corporate ran you and
Speaker 2: was like, why are you putting.
Speaker 3: Yourself forward for this position? You're like, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I could do it, Like, how do.
Speaker 2: You keep your head on about putting yourself forward for things,
Speaker 2: not doubting yourself if you do lose or get injured,
Speaker 2: pulling your sort of identity apart from that, and in
Speaker 2: some way that's really competitive in a team, but you're
Speaker 2: also competing against each other as well. How do you
Speaker 2: sort of keep a good head on your shoulders in
Speaker 2: that environment.
Speaker 1: It's a good question, and I think it's a hard
Speaker 1: one for me to answer. I just feel like I've
Speaker 1: been really lucky throughout my life. I've always had a
Speaker 1: great perspective on life, and you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: been well well written or well publicized. My sister actually
Speaker 1: passed away when I was twelve. She was fifteen, so
Speaker 1: she was a little bit older than me, and I
Speaker 1: felt like that moment, as sort of sad and as
Speaker 1: grieving as it was, it sort of enabled me this
Speaker 1: sort of amazing perspective on life that cricket's not the
Speaker 1: be all and end all. And I've always sort of
Speaker 1: had this perspective that, you know, I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: destined to do something else, It's not just cricket, and
Speaker 1: here I am still in cricket, which is quite weird.
Speaker 1: But I think in that regard, like you know, the
Speaker 1: first sort of eight years of my international career was
Speaker 1: just me playing. I don't think I really had an
Speaker 1: impact on world cricket or an impact on the team.
Speaker 1: I was just sort of there. I was a part
Speaker 1: of it. I was floating along, and it wasn't until
Speaker 1: sort of back into twenty seventeen, twenty and eighteen where
Speaker 1: I sort of found my feet and I found the
Speaker 1: confidence in myself and my ability to actually go and
Speaker 1: play the game properly and contribute to the side, you know,
Speaker 1: with the way that I could. So yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: perspective helps, but you also need a real level of
Speaker 1: resilience to play this game and to play it well,
Speaker 1: because you know, you can be on top of the
Speaker 1: world one day and get out for a first ball
Speaker 1: duck the very next and that's the beauty of the game.
Speaker 1: It could be something that you haven't done wrong, it's
Speaker 1: just you get a good ball or whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: So I feel really lucky in that regard. It's not
Speaker 1: really something that I've had to put a lot of
Speaker 1: thought or time or effort into. And I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: people listening to this that say, oh, that's crap, that's
Speaker 1: not true, but it is. And I'm really grateful for
Speaker 1: that every day that you know, I've got an amazing
Speaker 1: life outside of the game of cricket that you know,
Speaker 1: I can fall back on if you know, my cricketing
Speaker 1: life's not going that great, But the beauty of it
Speaker 1: is I still really enjoy the game of cricket and
Speaker 1: I love playing the game, and I love my teammates
Speaker 1: and I love competing, and I think that's what helps
Speaker 1: me every day that you know, if it's not my
Speaker 1: day out on the cricket pitch, you know, it might
Speaker 1: be Megan shoots day, it might be at least Perry's day,
Speaker 1: and I'm absolutely pumped for them to do well because
Speaker 1: it means that the team's going to win. So having
Speaker 1: that outlook as well, that it's not just about you,
Speaker 1: it's about your teammates and sort of what you're giving
Speaker 1: to the game in that regard, I think helps you
Speaker 1: sort of overcome a bit of that. But naturally, I
Speaker 1: think you're going to have self doubt in anything you
Speaker 1: do in life, and I think we all do it,
Speaker 1: but it's just I don't know, backing yourself, and I
Speaker 1: guess using your mates or your family or your teammates
Speaker 1: to help pump you up when you need it.
Speaker 3: I think you are the most well adjusted person ever.
Speaker 3: Such an amazing chat.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it. I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: We couldn't get this podcast started for fifteen minutes, so
Speaker 1: it's not all going that great.
Speaker 2: But they're resilience. I mean, you deal with adversity so well.
Speaker 2: But I think it's really interesting that you did have
Speaker 2: something much younger in life than most adults. If ever,
Speaker 2: I think that jolts your relationship to things like success
Speaker 2: and identity a little bit into perspective in a way
Speaker 2: that a lot of people don't have or experience much
Speaker 2: later in their life. And I think that's where people
Speaker 2: tend to fall into a bit of dissatisfaction or unhappiness
Speaker 2: when they've pinned everything they have to one identity or
Speaker 2: one type of success, and then when they don't get it,
Speaker 2: or when they get there and it's not enough, it's
Speaker 2: sort of like, oh, what do I do next? But
Speaker 2: the fact you've even turned your mind to a life
Speaker 2: outside of cricket makes I think what will eventually be
Speaker 2: a transition into a new career easier because you're already
Speaker 2: seeing that life is in chapters and I love this
Speaker 2: so much because I think people think they need to
Speaker 2: find a forever happiness, and they get there and then
Speaker 2: they stick with that forever. But the way the world
Speaker 2: moves so quickly in this day and age, you're meant
Speaker 2: to have lots of different chapters, and you probably not
Speaker 2: meant to know what they're going to be until just before.
Speaker 3: The next one.
Speaker 2: So I love that you're so open minded that you
Speaker 2: know Cricket is not your only chapter and that there's
Speaker 2: a time when there'll be something else, but that you
Speaker 2: don't need to know what it is now.
Speaker 1: I kind of love that, yeah, And I mean also
Speaker 1: like you could spend your whole life training for something
Speaker 1: and not get the desired rewards that you want. You know,
Speaker 1: I could have floated right through my career and probably
Speaker 1: not had the impact that not necessarily that I wanted,
Speaker 1: but not that sort of like I've been able to
Speaker 1: have now, and I would have been okay with that,
Speaker 1: and it just would have been a different story, like
Speaker 1: you said, a different chapter, and it would have shaped
Speaker 1: me differently. But yeah, it's kind of sad to reflect
Speaker 1: on what you just said and say that sometimes it
Speaker 1: takes something fairly dramatic to happen for people to realize that,
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes it's like a wake up call
Speaker 1: to people that go, Okay, well, maybe I don't have
Speaker 1: to wait for you know, something really significant in my
Speaker 1: life to make a change. Actually I can make that
Speaker 1: change now and be proactive and go actually find my
Speaker 1: happiness and find the happiness for my family in particular,
Speaker 1: and help you know, myself be better human. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so.
Speaker 2: Then the burning question for me is having a life
Speaker 2: outside of cricket when you're traveling so much.
Speaker 1: I feel like a.
Speaker 3: Lot of people who travel a lot for their work,
Speaker 3: it's so exciting. It's such a privilege.
Speaker 2: I get to travel a lot for work and it's
Speaker 2: like the best thing in the entire world. But you
Speaker 2: are also away routine is really difficult controlling like your
Speaker 2: food and the climate, like there are parts of it
Speaker 2: that are you know, difficult or challenging. And the other
Speaker 2: third married couple to play test cricket, like your careers
Speaker 2: often are pulling you in different directions like that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff is also really difficult to manage. So how
Speaker 2: do you manage the traveling side of things, and even
Speaker 2: down to like different food or different temperatures and jet lag. Like,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have to get it downpat better than
Speaker 2: most of us do. Are there any things you do
Speaker 2: to kind of manage it better?
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, first and foremost, there's a thousand apps that
Speaker 1: you can download down on the app Store that can
Speaker 1: help you with all of those various questions. I mean
Speaker 1: time Shifter app, which I PuO poed for a long
Speaker 1: period of time and I finally discovered it going over
Speaker 1: to the UK and traveling. It's amazing. It literally, man,
Speaker 1: it tells you when to sleep, when to have coffee,
Speaker 1: when to get sunshine, when to get light, to need
Speaker 1: your jet lag so that when you get home, Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you get home you feel a bit better. So
Speaker 1: Time Shift though, it's amazing, So get on board that
Speaker 1: if you're traveling a lot, I'd highly recommend that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: from a food point of view, I think, I think nutritionally,
Speaker 1: you know what you're going to need, and you know
Speaker 1: what you're going to need to perform well and to
Speaker 1: get your body in the right condition to play really well.
Speaker 1: But in saying that, you've got to be willing to
Speaker 1: open your mind to different cultures and different opportunities when
Speaker 1: you're traveling and coming to India is one of the
Speaker 1: coolest experiences that you get to have. It's completely different
Speaker 1: culturally than what we have in Australia. You've got to
Speaker 1: deal with a lot of different stuff when you come
Speaker 1: over here, just the way that they operate, and I
Speaker 1: love that. I mean, it opens your mind's a whole
Speaker 1: other way of doing things. And the simplicity in which
Speaker 1: a bulk of this population live in when we're driving
Speaker 1: past it each day is quite remarkable. So yeah, from
Speaker 1: a food point of view, it's great to open your
Speaker 1: mind to different sort of cultures in that regard. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the travel sided thing, I mean, we're really lucky and
Speaker 1: really fortunately what we do. We get to stay at
Speaker 1: some really nice places and we get pretty well looked after.
Speaker 1: Not everyone is afforded that luxury, so I'm fully aware
Speaker 1: of that. But yeah, we're given every opportunity to succeed,
Speaker 1: So we just got to make sure that we're making
Speaker 1: the right decisions personally.
Speaker 2: Do you get to do like I know sometimes when
Speaker 2: people are traveling, they literally go for what they're doing.
Speaker 2: You stay in the hotel, you go to training, you
Speaker 2: see the inside of the stadium and the hotel in
Speaker 2: the airport. Do you tack on a bit of time
Speaker 2: effort to kind of hang out or do you just
Speaker 2: not get that in the schedule.
Speaker 1: It's tough. It's been tough the last few days. I've
Speaker 1: been on podcasts and meeting or more.
Speaker 2: But thank you, I just kicked up all that time
Speaker 2: you would have had.
Speaker 1: I had a really great opportunity this morning to go
Speaker 1: get a coffee.
Speaker 2: But that's all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It's more than okay. Yeah, we do. And I think
Speaker 1: COVID kind of threw that out of whack a little bit.
Speaker 1: We weren't allowed to go out of the whole, weren't
Speaker 1: allowed to experience. We weren't really allowed to travel either,
Speaker 1: mind you, So that made it hard. But I think
Speaker 1: since being here in particular, the girls have really embraced it,
Speaker 1: the opportunity to get out and about and go and explore.
Speaker 1: So yes, that is a big part of it, going
Speaker 1: and just having a look and being a tourist, because yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, we're working most of the time. But if
Speaker 1: you could afford that opportunity to just go and be
Speaker 1: a tourist and take photos, it's cool.
Speaker 2: Well, before we move on to the last section, which
Speaker 2: is who you are outside of cricket, which is amazing
Speaker 2: because I can tell already there's an actual person who's
Speaker 2: outside of cricket. The last one is just really the
Speaker 2: impact that you have had. We've touched on it a
Speaker 2: few times on women's cricket as a whole, and that
Speaker 2: there are so many young girls in school now who
Speaker 2: don't have to look ahead and think it's impossible to
Speaker 2: be a female cricketer because people like you are actually
Speaker 2: out there doing it, which is just so incredible. How
Speaker 2: do you feel about the state of women's cricket and
Speaker 2: that legacy, and also if there were any young girls
Speaker 2: listening who are aspiring to a career like yours, is
Speaker 2: there anything you would say or any feelings that you
Speaker 2: have about it reflecting because I imagine you don't get
Speaker 2: to reflect on it that often.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, I probably don't, and I probably don't
Speaker 1: appreciate at times sort of how significant that shift has
Speaker 1: been as well. But yeah, I feel really lucky I've
Speaker 1: sort of seen all the big shift. I mean, when
Speaker 1: I first came into the Aussie squad and you know,
Speaker 1: my first contract I think was like five thousand dollars
Speaker 1: and I thought I was rich because you know, I
Speaker 1: was like eighteen, I was fresh out of school, and
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, Like what am I going to
Speaker 1: do with money? Like how good is this? I'm going
Speaker 1: to buy a house one day, and like, you know
Speaker 1: you're thinking about that. But yeah, to say how quickly
Speaker 1: it's changed over that twelve year period, when the fact
Speaker 1: that you know now full time cricketer and can earn
Speaker 1: a living out of it is pretty scary to think
Speaker 1: about how quickly it's been a shift. But I've been
Speaker 1: really lucky in that. You know, when I was coming through,
Speaker 1: you had to work out, to go to school, you
Speaker 1: had to go to UNI. You had balance. And I
Speaker 1: feel like that's a real concern I think of mine
Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of other peoples around
Speaker 1: that as our sport grows and shift and into that professionalism,
Speaker 1: these young kids coming into our game, in particular the
Speaker 1: women's game, are so young that they might lose that balance,
Speaker 1: and that's a real concern. But I think the state
Speaker 1: of the game at the moment is amazing. It's evolving
Speaker 1: every single year that I'm playing a part of it,
Speaker 1: and that's been really exciting to be a part of
Speaker 1: and I think with appropriate investment and time and care
Speaker 1: taken into that next generation, I think you know, they're
Speaker 1: going to be ten times better than what we ever were,
Speaker 1: which is super exciting. So that's cool. And yeah, for
Speaker 1: all the young sort of girls and boys out there
Speaker 1: that are sort of looking at cricket and wondering if
Speaker 1: it's a cool thing to do or a good job
Speaker 1: to do, I would one hundred percent say go for it.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at me sitting here in Mumbai, Like
Speaker 1: I get into trouble in the world playing cricket with
Speaker 1: and against some of the most amazing cricketers that you
Speaker 1: have played the game. And I'm lucky every day to
Speaker 1: be able to do that. So if you've got a
Speaker 1: potential or if you've got a drive to go and
Speaker 1: do it, I mean do it, train hard, work hard,
Speaker 1: and get the results that you want, but just enjoy it.
Speaker 1: At the same time.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: And I love that you finished with enjoy it because
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, you can get so distracted by achieving
Speaker 2: stuff that suddenly end up somewhere and you're like, I
Speaker 2: don't even care about this, Like I've spent my whole
Speaker 2: life dedicated to this one thing and it's not making
Speaker 2: me happy at all. I feel like Hollywood's the prime
Speaker 2: example of having all the stuff and does an equal happiness.
Speaker 2: It can help, but it doesn't lead automatically to a happy.
Speaker 3: Fulfilled life.
Speaker 2: So speaking of the last section is your playta, which
Speaker 2: is the idea that even if you love your job,
Speaker 2: but especially if anyone listening who doesn't, it is so
Speaker 2: important to have something outside of productivity, outside of what
Speaker 2: you do, Like it's so easy to just do your
Speaker 2: job and go to sleep and then go back to
Speaker 2: your job and not have any hobbies or anything that's
Speaker 2: like just for fun that you don't care that you've
Speaker 2: wasted time or you go into the zone you don't
Speaker 2: even know what time it is. What are the things
Speaker 2: that you do? And also with you and Mitchell, like
Speaker 2: two people who are sports people and professional sports people,
Speaker 2: And I've read that one of the things you love
Speaker 2: doing is playing golf together, which is also another sport
Speaker 2: that also has numbers. Are there any things that you
Speaker 2: do that are not sport related that are just like
Speaker 2: do you binge Netflix? Do you do like puzzles? Do
Speaker 2: you have pets? Do you do marine biology? On the side, like,
Speaker 2: what do you do well.
Speaker 1: We love golf. That is our hobby. That is our
Speaker 1: fad that we do together. I love that. Yeah. Apart
Speaker 1: from that, we're pretty good at lounging on the couch,
Speaker 1: I mean, which is a bit of a green thumb
Speaker 1: at home, so I'll often be lounging on the couch
Speaker 1: and he'll be out in the garden, which I have
Speaker 1: no interest in doing. So, I mean, that's not what
Speaker 1: we do together. But at least we're in the same place,
Speaker 1: you know, like a life five him when he comes in,
Speaker 1: because he's made the law and he's pretty happy about life,
Speaker 1: but stoked. I will say though, that we don't binge
Speaker 1: Netflix together because this was I laugh at this is
Speaker 1: my worst nightmare. But we started watching Billions together. This
Speaker 1: is a long time ago.
Speaker 3: I love Billions.
Speaker 1: Yeah a great show, right, Yeah, Well, you know, anyway,
Speaker 1: we're watching it together and we're not together a lot
Speaker 1: throughout the year, so I guess it's hard for someone
Speaker 1: to hold off on it. But I came home from training.
Speaker 1: I guess he was watching Billions by himself on the
Speaker 1: couch and I was like, not happy, so non happy.
Speaker 1: So we can't watch Netflix together anymore because I just
Speaker 1: don't trust the band fair enough.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, he's not set the right to keep that
Speaker 2: trust and ruined it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but without also ousting my inner nerdy behavior. We
Speaker 1: actually play PlayStation quite a lot with some mates, and
Speaker 1: that's something that we kind of do like an evening
Speaker 1: if we're a bit bored. So that's kind of fun.
Speaker 1: I love that. A bit of a tech nerd. Yeah,
Speaker 1: grew up with a Nintendo, so transform to PlayStation.
Speaker 3: So I love that. So these are the like weird, quirky,
Speaker 3: fun things that people wouldn't know. That's your joy.
Speaker 2: But I feel like the more that you hear that stuff,
Speaker 2: the more I'm like, she's normal, she's a person, she
Speaker 2: got her own like Nintendo things going on.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 1: Just doesn't quite understand how good he has it. I mean,
Speaker 1: his wife's the one that taps him on the shoulder
Speaker 1: to say, let's go play golf or do you want
Speaker 1: to shoot some people on a call of jouty, Like,
Speaker 1: he doesn't quite understand how good he's quite got it.
Speaker 1: So if you could just remind him, that'd be great.
Speaker 3: One hundred.
Speaker 2: I'll just record this sound by it like dream wife,
Speaker 2: like dude, you appreciate.
Speaker 3: The shit out of that.
Speaker 2: Lucky he can cook, yeah, and keep the garden looking beautiful.
Speaker 2: I mean amazing. I call that a dream team. You know,
Speaker 2: it's all about balance.
Speaker 1: It's the olive theory, right coming together.
Speaker 2: Oh well, this was absolutely amazing just to finish out,
Speaker 2: because I love quotes so much. Do you have a
Speaker 2: favorite quote or a quote that brings you yay?
Speaker 1: I don't really. I think I read one one day
Speaker 1: and it was like, a positive thought in the morning
Speaker 1: can go a long way as to how your day progresses.
Speaker 1: So for me, I tag that in with a smile
Speaker 1: is infectious. So for me, it's like, well, if you
Speaker 1: can put a smile on your face in the morning
Speaker 1: and get one back from someone, you've changed their life
Speaker 1: and you wonder how chain reaction goes. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of me. It's not a quote as such, but it's
Speaker 1: a bit of a mantra.
Speaker 2: I love that so much, and you'd forget that just
Speaker 2: smiling at a stranger can actually change the whole tone
Speaker 2: of their day. You know, they're always on their phones
Speaker 2: and stuff. It's like if you just looked up and
Speaker 2: smart at people, one of the coolest things in Antarctica
Speaker 2: was for twelve days. We didn't have signal at all,
Speaker 2: so I just talked to Randoms.
Speaker 3: I found out so much cool stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm missund on this from strangers all the time.
Speaker 3: What a shame.
Speaker 1: That's what I think. It's not the Prime Minister as
Speaker 1: the most important job in the country. I think it's baristas.
Speaker 1: Because every morning, when you're going to get your coffee,
Speaker 1: the brewster dictates how good a day you're going to have.
Speaker 1: If that brewster is happy and welcoming of you to
Speaker 1: get coffee that morning, that's going to change your morning. Right.
Speaker 1: So I'm a firm believer. If the bruister's grumpy, then
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a bad day.
Speaker 3: So true.
Speaker 2: And if they're kind of cute and they wink at you,
Speaker 2: it's like I'm married, but I'll still feel great about that.
Speaker 3: I'll be like, you know what, I feel great, Thanks.
Speaker 1: Mate, I'm happy, I am happy.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2: I hope you can go and find an amazing borister
Speaker 2: and more buy somewhere to get you a coffee and
Speaker 2: we'll be following along. I've got the dates. I think
Speaker 2: tomorrow's your first your first game, the tenth and seventeenth
Speaker 2: something something. I'll put it in the show notes anyway
Speaker 2: to make sure everyone follows along.
Speaker 3: All the very best. Same with the World Cup and
Speaker 3: everything else you've got going on. Like I cutlet the IPL.
Speaker 2: I can't believe how many things you've got going on.
Speaker 2: But congratulations on everything.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, and thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: It's been great.
Speaker 2: Okay, But how is she so level headed and amazing
Speaker 2: and talented and successful. What an incredible human being doing
Speaker 2: incredible things for sport, and I don't doubt that Alisa
Speaker 2: will do the same for whatever industry she may choose
Speaker 2: to enter in future. As always, I would love to
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Speaker 2: one final episode left for the year, and so much
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Speaker 3: I hope all your festive preparations are going well and
Speaker 3: we will see you next week.
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