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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Sees the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 3: Those who found lives. They adore, the good.

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Speaker 2: Bad and ugly, The best and worst day will bear

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Speaker 2: or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned fu entrepreneur

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Speaker 2: Lovely neighborhood if you're getting sick of the Antarctica content,

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Alissa heally, Alissa, welcome to CEZA.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for having me. I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited. I can't believe you're in Mumbai.

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Speaker 3: So I feel like the peanut butter one's a really

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Speaker 1: come back into the sport in sort of June, and

436
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Speaker 1: then you do a pre season block and then you

437
00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,600
Speaker 1: go away for domestic cricket or you go and play

438
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 1: international creet Now that with the schedule being so jam

439
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,320
Speaker 1: packed with international cricket and domestic leagues, there's actually no

440
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to do that preseason anymore. So it's actually a

441
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,360
Speaker 1: real shift in mindset at the moment about how we're

442
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Speaker 1: maintaining ourselves as we go and how we keep sort

443
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 1: of growing physically and also giving ourselves mental rest throughout

444
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Speaker 1: all this time and playing so much cricket. So yeah,

445
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,920
Speaker 1: the year at the moment is fairly hectic, and there's

446
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 1: a great opportunity with the Women's IPLs starting in March

447
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,160
Speaker 1: this year for the first time, which is a huge

448
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 1: opportunity for sport over here in India and women's sport

449
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,120
Speaker 1: in particular to get that off the ground, and I'm

450
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 1: sure that there's a lot of ouzzy girls that will

451
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,679
Speaker 1: want to be a part of that and go and

452
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Speaker 1: take up that opportunity. So we get April off sort

453
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 1: of every year, it's a bit of a down period

454
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 1: for us with a heavy back end of the year

455
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 1: within away ashes as well. That's yeah, it's going to

456
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 1: be pretty ectic, but it's good fun.

457
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,119
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, how do you like time wise?

458
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 3: And with your body as well. It's really interesting.

459
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 2: I think so many people's jobs don't necessarily depend on

460
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 2: their physicality, like they need to be healthy, of course,

461
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 2: but the job itself isn't physically doing stuff. So are

462
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 2: you like in the gym and doing cricket training? Like

463
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Speaker 2: do you cross train? How many days a week are

464
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Speaker 2: you actually doing physical stuff? How many days you have downtime?

465
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Speaker 2: Is there any admin that you have to do? Like

466
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Speaker 2: how is your actual work life divided?

467
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Speaker 1: Yeah? I have life admin every day that I have

468
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: to do, and I put that to the side, paying

469
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 1: bills and mortgages and move that on. But yeah, look,

470
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Speaker 1: it is a fairly physical spot. I mean you've got

471
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Speaker 1: to have some level of I guess fitness and endurance

472
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Speaker 1: to play it, and also strength as well to get

473
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Speaker 1: your body in the right position a lot of the time.

474
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Speaker 1: So there's obviously a heavy skill focus in the game,

475
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: and that takes a lot of training. That's most days

476
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Speaker 1: a week, and you sort of take the downtime when

477
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Speaker 1: you get it. Like where we're on too, are we

478
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: train basically every day but a lot of those sessions

479
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 1: are optional. So if you feel like you've got enough

480
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 1: of what you need, or you need a day off,

481
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 1: you could take that. But yeah, a lot of the

482
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Speaker 1: time we actually spend in the gym or sort of

483
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 1: running at training just to make sure that we're physically

484
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 1: you in tip top shape to go. But a lot

485
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 1: of the stuff we do in the gym, for me personally,

486
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: it's a lot of power based stuff with the position

487
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: that I play in the side, and a lot of

488
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: rehab or prehab as well to make sure that my

489
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Speaker 1: body can last. And it's done an amazing job to

490
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: last this long at thirty two without being the exact

491
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Speaker 1: temple that are probably a lot of athletes treat their

492
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Speaker 1: body like. So I've been really lucky. But I think

493
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 1: it comes down to honestly switching off and giving yourself downtime.

494
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm quite good at that, and I've

495
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 1: really worked really hard at sort of having a work

496
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: life balance and really enjoying my time away from the game,

497
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: and I think that really helps you stay mentally fresh,

498
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: and for some reason, I feel like if you're mentally fresh,

499
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 1: your body will play along as well. So I feel

500
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: like that sort of helped me throughout my career and

501
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 1: it seems to do wonders. So when you get the downtime,

502
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: you just use it to the best of your ability.

503
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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

504
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that sounds so balanced. I'm like, I

505
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: need to talk to you more about this because I'm

506
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: not great at it. But speaking of that mental game

507
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: and having your sort of head in the right spot,

508
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,880
Speaker 2: particularly with like one of the things we talk about

509
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 2: the most on CZA in the pathway, like forging your

510
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 2: pathway in life, particularly when you're aiming for something that's

511
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: competitive as well, is the self doubt piece around you know,

512
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: am I good enough? And when everything you do is

513
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: measured as well, and measured publicly like a lot of

514
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 2: people are measuring themselves, but behind closed doors you're kind

515
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 2: of like on international television doing those things. And then

516
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 2: there's injury and it's a winning game.

517
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: You know you're winning or losing. So it's very binary.

518
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: Like even reading about taking up this position, how I

519
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: think it was, Christine McLaughlin from Corporate ran you and

520
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: was like, why are you putting.

521
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: Yourself forward for this position? You're like, I don't know

522
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 3: if I could do it, Like, how do.

523
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: You keep your head on about putting yourself forward for things,

524
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: not doubting yourself if you do lose or get injured,

525
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 2: pulling your sort of identity apart from that, and in

526
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 2: some way that's really competitive in a team, but you're

527
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: also competing against each other as well. How do you

528
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 2: sort of keep a good head on your shoulders in

529
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: that environment.

530
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Speaker 1: It's a good question, and I think it's a hard

531
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Speaker 1: one for me to answer. I just feel like I've

532
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: been really lucky throughout my life. I've always had a

533
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: great perspective on life, and you know, I think it's

534
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: been well well written or well publicized. My sister actually

535
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: passed away when I was twelve. She was fifteen, so

536
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: she was a little bit older than me, and I

537
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: felt like that moment, as sort of sad and as

538
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: grieving as it was, it sort of enabled me this

539
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: sort of amazing perspective on life that cricket's not the

540
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: be all and end all. And I've always sort of

541
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: had this perspective that, you know, I feel like I'm

542
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: destined to do something else, It's not just cricket, and

543
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: here I am still in cricket, which is quite weird.

544
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: But I think in that regard, like you know, the

545
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: first sort of eight years of my international career was

546
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: just me playing. I don't think I really had an

547
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: impact on world cricket or an impact on the team.

548
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: I was just sort of there. I was a part

549
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: of it. I was floating along, and it wasn't until

550
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: sort of back into twenty seventeen, twenty and eighteen where

551
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: I sort of found my feet and I found the

552
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: confidence in myself and my ability to actually go and

553
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: play the game properly and contribute to the side, you know,

554
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: with the way that I could. So yeah, I guess

555
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 1: perspective helps, but you also need a real level of

556
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: resilience to play this game and to play it well,

557
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: because you know, you can be on top of the

558
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 1: world one day and get out for a first ball

559
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: duck the very next and that's the beauty of the game.

560
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: It could be something that you haven't done wrong, it's

561
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: just you get a good ball or whatever it might be.

562
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: So I feel really lucky in that regard. It's not

563
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: really something that I've had to put a lot of

564
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: thought or time or effort into. And I'm sure there's

565
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: people listening to this that say, oh, that's crap, that's

566
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: not true, but it is. And I'm really grateful for

567
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: that every day that you know, I've got an amazing

568
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: life outside of the game of cricket that you know,

569
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: I can fall back on if you know, my cricketing

570
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: life's not going that great, But the beauty of it

571
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: is I still really enjoy the game of cricket and

572
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: I love playing the game, and I love my teammates

573
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: and I love competing, and I think that's what helps

574
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: me every day that you know, if it's not my

575
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: day out on the cricket pitch, you know, it might

576
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: be Megan shoots day, it might be at least Perry's day,

577
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: and I'm absolutely pumped for them to do well because

578
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: it means that the team's going to win. So having

579
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: that outlook as well, that it's not just about you,

580
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: it's about your teammates and sort of what you're giving

581
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: to the game in that regard, I think helps you

582
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: sort of overcome a bit of that. But naturally, I

583
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: think you're going to have self doubt in anything you

584
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: do in life, and I think we all do it,

585
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: but it's just I don't know, backing yourself, and I

586
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: guess using your mates or your family or your teammates

587
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: to help pump you up when you need it.

588
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Speaker 3: I think you are the most well adjusted person ever.

589
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: Such an amazing chat.

590
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: It sounds like it. I don't know. I'm not sure.

591
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: We couldn't get this podcast started for fifteen minutes, so

592
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: it's not all going that great.

593
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: But they're resilience. I mean, you deal with adversity so well.

594
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: But I think it's really interesting that you did have

595
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: something much younger in life than most adults. If ever,

596
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: I think that jolts your relationship to things like success

597
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: and identity a little bit into perspective in a way

598
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: that a lot of people don't have or experience much

599
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: later in their life. And I think that's where people

600
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: tend to fall into a bit of dissatisfaction or unhappiness

601
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: when they've pinned everything they have to one identity or

602
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 2: one type of success, and then when they don't get it,

603
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: or when they get there and it's not enough, it's

604
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 2: sort of like, oh, what do I do next? But

605
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: the fact you've even turned your mind to a life

606
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 2: outside of cricket makes I think what will eventually be

607
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 2: a transition into a new career easier because you're already

608
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: seeing that life is in chapters and I love this

609
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: so much because I think people think they need to

610
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: find a forever happiness, and they get there and then

611
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: they stick with that forever. But the way the world

612
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: moves so quickly in this day and age, you're meant

613
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: to have lots of different chapters, and you probably not

614
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: meant to know what they're going to be until just before.

615
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: The next one.

616
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: So I love that you're so open minded that you

617
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 2: know Cricket is not your only chapter and that there's

618
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: a time when there'll be something else, but that you

619
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: don't need to know what it is now.

620
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: I kind of love that, yeah, And I mean also

621
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: like you could spend your whole life training for something

622
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: and not get the desired rewards that you want. You know,

623
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: I could have floated right through my career and probably

624
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: not had the impact that not necessarily that I wanted,

625
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: but not that sort of like I've been able to

626
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: have now, and I would have been okay with that,

627
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: and it just would have been a different story, like

628
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: you said, a different chapter, and it would have shaped

629
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: me differently. But yeah, it's kind of sad to reflect

630
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 1: on what you just said and say that sometimes it

631
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: takes something fairly dramatic to happen for people to realize that,

632
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: and I think sometimes it's like a wake up call

633
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: to people that go, Okay, well, maybe I don't have

634
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: to wait for you know, something really significant in my

635
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: life to make a change. Actually I can make that

636
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: change now and be proactive and go actually find my

637
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: happiness and find the happiness for my family in particular,

638
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: and help you know, myself be better human. Yeah.

639
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so.

640
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: Then the burning question for me is having a life

641
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 2: outside of cricket when you're traveling so much.

642
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: I feel like a.

643
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: Lot of people who travel a lot for their work,

644
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: it's so exciting. It's such a privilege.

645
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 2: I get to travel a lot for work and it's

646
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 2: like the best thing in the entire world. But you

647
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: are also away routine is really difficult controlling like your

648
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: food and the climate, like there are parts of it

649
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 2: that are you know, difficult or challenging. And the other

650
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: third married couple to play test cricket, like your careers

651
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: often are pulling you in different directions like that kind

652
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: of stuff is also really difficult to manage. So how

653
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: do you manage the traveling side of things, and even

654
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: down to like different food or different temperatures and jet lag. Like,

655
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have to get it downpat better than

656
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: most of us do. Are there any things you do

657
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: to kind of manage it better?

658
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, first and foremost, there's a thousand apps that

659
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: you can download down on the app Store that can

660
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: help you with all of those various questions. I mean

661
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: time Shifter app, which I PuO poed for a long

662
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: period of time and I finally discovered it going over

663
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: to the UK and traveling. It's amazing. It literally, man,

664
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: it tells you when to sleep, when to have coffee,

665
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: when to get sunshine, when to get light, to need

666
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: your jet lag so that when you get home, Yeah,

667
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: when you get home you feel a bit better. So

668
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: Time Shift though, it's amazing, So get on board that

669
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: if you're traveling a lot, I'd highly recommend that. But yeah,

670
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: from a food point of view, I think, I think nutritionally,

671
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: you know what you're going to need, and you know

672
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: what you're going to need to perform well and to

673
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: get your body in the right condition to play really well.

674
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: But in saying that, you've got to be willing to

675
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: open your mind to different cultures and different opportunities when

676
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: you're traveling and coming to India is one of the

677
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: coolest experiences that you get to have. It's completely different

678
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: culturally than what we have in Australia. You've got to

679
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: deal with a lot of different stuff when you come

680
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 1: over here, just the way that they operate, and I

681
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: love that. I mean, it opens your mind's a whole

682
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: other way of doing things. And the simplicity in which

683
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: a bulk of this population live in when we're driving

684
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: past it each day is quite remarkable. So yeah, from

685
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: a food point of view, it's great to open your

686
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: mind to different sort of cultures in that regard. But yeah,

687
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: the travel sided thing, I mean, we're really lucky and

688
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: really fortunately what we do. We get to stay at

689
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: some really nice places and we get pretty well looked after.

690
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: Not everyone is afforded that luxury, so I'm fully aware

691
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: of that. But yeah, we're given every opportunity to succeed,

692
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: So we just got to make sure that we're making

693
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: the right decisions personally.

694
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: Do you get to do like I know sometimes when

695
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: people are traveling, they literally go for what they're doing.

696
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: You stay in the hotel, you go to training, you

697
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: see the inside of the stadium and the hotel in

698
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: the airport. Do you tack on a bit of time

699
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: effort to kind of hang out or do you just

700
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: not get that in the schedule.

701
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: It's tough. It's been tough the last few days. I've

702
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: been on podcasts and meeting or more.

703
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: But thank you, I just kicked up all that time

704
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: you would have had.

705
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: I had a really great opportunity this morning to go

706
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: get a coffee.

707
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: But that's all right, I'm sorry.

708
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: It's more than okay. Yeah, we do. And I think

709
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: COVID kind of threw that out of whack a little bit.

710
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: We weren't allowed to go out of the whole, weren't

711
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: allowed to experience. We weren't really allowed to travel either,

712
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: mind you, So that made it hard. But I think

713
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: since being here in particular, the girls have really embraced it,

714
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: the opportunity to get out and about and go and explore.

715
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: So yes, that is a big part of it, going

716
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: and just having a look and being a tourist, because yeah,

717
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: you're right, we're working most of the time. But if

718
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: you could afford that opportunity to just go and be

719
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: a tourist and take photos, it's cool.

720
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: Well, before we move on to the last section, which

721
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: is who you are outside of cricket, which is amazing

722
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: because I can tell already there's an actual person who's

723
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: outside of cricket. The last one is just really the

724
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: impact that you have had. We've touched on it a

725
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: few times on women's cricket as a whole, and that

726
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: there are so many young girls in school now who

727
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: don't have to look ahead and think it's impossible to

728
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: be a female cricketer because people like you are actually

729
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: out there doing it, which is just so incredible. How

730
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: do you feel about the state of women's cricket and

731
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: that legacy, and also if there were any young girls

732
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: listening who are aspiring to a career like yours, is

733
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: there anything you would say or any feelings that you

734
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: have about it reflecting because I imagine you don't get

735
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: to reflect on it that often.

736
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, I probably don't, and I probably don't

737
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: appreciate at times sort of how significant that shift has

738
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: been as well. But yeah, I feel really lucky I've

739
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: sort of seen all the big shift. I mean, when

740
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: I first came into the Aussie squad and you know,

741
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: my first contract I think was like five thousand dollars

742
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: and I thought I was rich because you know, I

743
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: was like eighteen, I was fresh out of school, and

744
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, Like what am I going to

745
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: do with money? Like how good is this? I'm going

746
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: to buy a house one day, and like, you know

747
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: you're thinking about that. But yeah, to say how quickly

748
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: it's changed over that twelve year period, when the fact

749
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: that you know now full time cricketer and can earn

750
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: a living out of it is pretty scary to think

751
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: about how quickly it's been a shift. But I've been

752
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: really lucky in that. You know, when I was coming through,

753
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: you had to work out, to go to school, you

754
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: had to go to UNI. You had balance. And I

755
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: feel like that's a real concern I think of mine

756
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of other peoples around

757
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: that as our sport grows and shift and into that professionalism,

758
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: these young kids coming into our game, in particular the

759
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: women's game, are so young that they might lose that balance,

760
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: and that's a real concern. But I think the state

761
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: of the game at the moment is amazing. It's evolving

762
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: every single year that I'm playing a part of it,

763
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: and that's been really exciting to be a part of

764
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: and I think with appropriate investment and time and care

765
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: taken into that next generation, I think you know, they're

766
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: going to be ten times better than what we ever were,

767
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: which is super exciting. So that's cool. And yeah, for

768
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: all the young sort of girls and boys out there

769
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: that are sort of looking at cricket and wondering if

770
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: it's a cool thing to do or a good job

771
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: to do, I would one hundred percent say go for it.

772
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, look at me sitting here in Mumbai, Like

773
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: I get into trouble in the world playing cricket with

774
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: and against some of the most amazing cricketers that you

775
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: have played the game. And I'm lucky every day to

776
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: be able to do that. So if you've got a

777
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: potential or if you've got a drive to go and

778
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: do it, I mean do it, train hard, work hard,

779
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: and get the results that you want, but just enjoy it.

780
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: At the same time.

781
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's amazing.

782
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: And I love that you finished with enjoy it because

783
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, you can get so distracted by achieving

784
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: stuff that suddenly end up somewhere and you're like, I

785
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: don't even care about this, Like I've spent my whole

786
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: life dedicated to this one thing and it's not making

787
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: me happy at all. I feel like Hollywood's the prime

788
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 2: example of having all the stuff and does an equal happiness.

789
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: It can help, but it doesn't lead automatically to a happy.

790
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: Fulfilled life.

791
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: So speaking of the last section is your playta, which

792
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: is the idea that even if you love your job,

793
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: but especially if anyone listening who doesn't, it is so

794
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: important to have something outside of productivity, outside of what

795
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: you do, Like it's so easy to just do your

796
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: job and go to sleep and then go back to

797
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 2: your job and not have any hobbies or anything that's

798
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: like just for fun that you don't care that you've

799
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: wasted time or you go into the zone you don't

800
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 2: even know what time it is. What are the things

801
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: that you do? And also with you and Mitchell, like

802
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 2: two people who are sports people and professional sports people,

803
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: And I've read that one of the things you love

804
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: doing is playing golf together, which is also another sport

805
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: that also has numbers. Are there any things that you

806
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: do that are not sport related that are just like

807
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: do you binge Netflix? Do you do like puzzles? Do

808
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: you have pets? Do you do marine biology? On the side, like,

809
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: what do you do well.

810
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: We love golf. That is our hobby. That is our

811
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: fad that we do together. I love that. Yeah. Apart

812
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: from that, we're pretty good at lounging on the couch,

813
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: I mean, which is a bit of a green thumb

814
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: at home, so I'll often be lounging on the couch

815
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: and he'll be out in the garden, which I have

816
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: no interest in doing. So, I mean, that's not what

817
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: we do together. But at least we're in the same place,

818
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, like a life five him when he comes in,

819
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: because he's made the law and he's pretty happy about life,

820
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: but stoked. I will say though, that we don't binge

821
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Netflix together because this was I laugh at this is

822
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: my worst nightmare. But we started watching Billions together. This

823
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: is a long time ago.

824
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 3: I love Billions.

825
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah a great show, right, Yeah, Well, you know, anyway,

826
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: we're watching it together and we're not together a lot

827
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: throughout the year, so I guess it's hard for someone

828
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: to hold off on it. But I came home from training.

829
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: I guess he was watching Billions by himself on the

830
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: couch and I was like, not happy, so non happy.

831
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: So we can't watch Netflix together anymore because I just

832
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: don't trust the band fair enough.

833
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: Fair enough, he's not set the right to keep that

834
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: trust and ruined it.

835
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but without also ousting my inner nerdy behavior. We

836
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: actually play PlayStation quite a lot with some mates, and

837
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: that's something that we kind of do like an evening

838
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: if we're a bit bored. So that's kind of fun.

839
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: I love that. A bit of a tech nerd. Yeah,

840
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: grew up with a Nintendo, so transform to PlayStation.

841
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: So I love that. So these are the like weird, quirky,

842
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: fun things that people wouldn't know. That's your joy.

843
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: But I feel like the more that you hear that stuff,

844
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: the more I'm like, she's normal, she's a person, she

845
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: got her own like Nintendo things going on.

846
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: That's great.

847
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: Just doesn't quite understand how good he has it. I mean,

848
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: his wife's the one that taps him on the shoulder

849
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: to say, let's go play golf or do you want

850
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: to shoot some people on a call of jouty, Like,

851
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't quite understand how good he's quite got it.

852
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: So if you could just remind him, that'd be great.

853
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: One hundred.

854
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: I'll just record this sound by it like dream wife,

855
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: like dude, you appreciate.

856
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: The shit out of that.

857
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: Lucky he can cook, yeah, and keep the garden looking beautiful.

858
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean amazing. I call that a dream team. You know,

859
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 2: it's all about balance.

860
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: It's the olive theory, right coming together.

861
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: Oh well, this was absolutely amazing just to finish out,

862
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: because I love quotes so much. Do you have a

863
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: favorite quote or a quote that brings you yay?

864
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't really. I think I read one one day

865
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: and it was like, a positive thought in the morning

866
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: can go a long way as to how your day progresses.

867
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: So for me, I tag that in with a smile

868
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: is infectious. So for me, it's like, well, if you

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Speaker 1: and get one back from someone, you've changed their life

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Speaker 1: and you wonder how chain reaction goes. So that's kind

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Speaker 1: of me. It's not a quote as such, but it's

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Speaker 1: a bit of a mantra.

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Speaker 2: I love that so much, and you'd forget that just

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Speaker 2: smiling at a stranger can actually change the whole tone

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Speaker 2: of their day. You know, they're always on their phones

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Speaker 2: and stuff. It's like if you just looked up and

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Speaker 2: smart at people, one of the coolest things in Antarctica

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Speaker 2: was for twelve days. We didn't have signal at all,

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Speaker 2: so I just talked to Randoms.

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Speaker 3: I found out so much cool stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm missund on this from strangers all the time.

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Speaker 3: What a shame.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think. It's not the Prime Minister as

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Speaker 1: the most important job in the country. I think it's baristas.

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Speaker 1: Because every morning, when you're going to get your coffee,

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Speaker 1: the brewster dictates how good a day you're going to have.

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Speaker 1: If that brewster is happy and welcoming of you to

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Speaker 1: get coffee that morning, that's going to change your morning. Right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm a firm believer. If the bruister's grumpy, then

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Speaker 3: So true.

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Speaker 2: And if they're kind of cute and they wink at you,

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Speaker 2: it's like I'm married, but I'll still feel great about that.

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Speaker 3: I'll be like, you know what, I feel great, Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Mate, I'm happy, I am happy.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: I hope you can go and find an amazing borister

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Speaker 2: and more buy somewhere to get you a coffee and

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Speaker 2: we'll be following along. I've got the dates. I think

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Speaker 2: tomorrow's your first your first game, the tenth and seventeenth

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Speaker 2: something something. I'll put it in the show notes anyway

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Speaker 2: to make sure everyone follows along.

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Speaker 3: All the very best. Same with the World Cup and

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Speaker 3: everything else you've got going on. Like I cutlet the IPL.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe how many things you've got going on.

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Speaker 2: But congratulations on everything.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, and thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's been great.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But how is she so level headed and amazing

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Speaker 2: and talented and successful. What an incredible human being doing

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Speaker 2: incredible things for sport, and I don't doubt that Alisa

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Speaker 2: will do the same for whatever industry she may choose

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Speaker 2: to enter in future. As always, I would love to

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Speaker 2: show our gratitude for her time and effort, so please

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Speaker 2: do share the episode and any takeaways or feelings about it,

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Speaker 2: tagging a underscore heely tagging Alyssa so of course she

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Speaker 2: can see, and also us so we can keep growing

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Speaker 2: the neighborhood as far and wide as possible. We've got

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Speaker 2: one final episode left for the year, and so much

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Speaker 2: exciting stuff on the cards for twenty twenty three. Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, as you guys, No And has gone full

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Speaker 2: time creative and is back permanently with CZDA, so so

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Speaker 2: much more capacity to bring the neighborhood some joy, so

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Speaker 2: many exciting things planned, so stay tuned.

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Speaker 3: I hope all your festive preparations are going well and

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Speaker 3: we will see you next week.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, hope you're seizing your ya