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Speaker 1: This episode of CEZ the A is brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Mitsubishi.

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Speaker 2: We were raised to be I think, hard working, and

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Speaker 2: we also believed that you never look at an opportunity

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Speaker 2: and turn it away. A lot of people didn't want

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Speaker 2: to play our music. It wasn't what was happening in

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Speaker 2: Australian music at the time, but we just kept going

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Speaker 2: and we just felt like, you know, there was something

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Speaker 2: good in it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the CS the AA Podcast. Stunning in your moment,

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Speaker 1: I keep one feeling and Madra.

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Speaker 2: You asked me fun more am am so last started

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Speaker 2: dancing under the street, lad and you saw me and

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Speaker 2: I saw that you saw me, and I wanted you bad.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a little something different for you all this week,

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Speaker 1: Lovely neighborhood. What a treat to have the melodious voice

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Speaker 1: of Julia Stone coming to your ears. Unless you've literally

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Speaker 1: been living under a rock, you will definitely have heard

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Speaker 1: some of her work, even if you didn't realize it,

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Speaker 1: including at the very least the ubiquitous and ARIA Award

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Speaker 1: winning single Big jet Plane, released with her brother Angus

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Speaker 1: in the same year that they won five ARIA Awards

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Speaker 1: from nine nominations for their incredible work. But what I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be chatting with Julia about today is her

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Speaker 1: brand new album, sixty Summers, and you've just heard a

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Speaker 1: little snippet of one of the featuring songs and one

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Speaker 1: of my favorites, break It's so ful of Yea, along

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Speaker 1: with a couple of other tracks that have been pre

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Speaker 1: released before it launches officially this week. This is her

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Speaker 1: third solo album, but the first one, as you'll hear,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't launched in between other Angus and Julia releases,

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Speaker 1: and with the most striking departure into new sounds. As again,

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Speaker 1: you just heard new partnerships and even supporting visuals, including

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Speaker 1: a wonderful little music video featuring Susan Sarandon and Danny Glover.

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Speaker 1: You know I love getting into conversations about identity, different chapters,

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Speaker 1: outgrowing your past definitions of success, and finding new metrics

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Speaker 1: for your happiness. So what a perfect time to sit

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Speaker 1: down with this wonderful artist just before this new album

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Speaker 1: comes into the world. As always, it was so enlightening

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Speaker 1: to hear more about the human being behind the household name.

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Speaker 1: I love that part of this show so much. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: you all learn as much as I did about Julia

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Speaker 1: that you might not have known before before we jump in.

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Speaker 1: You've probably noticed that we didn't have a Yeas of

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Speaker 1: our Lives episode this week, even after our fabulous co

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Speaker 1: hosted chat last week. I'm so glad you guys love

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Speaker 1: the banter. I'll make sure that there is much more

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Speaker 1: of that to come. I've admittedly fallen into some very

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Speaker 1: optimistic but ultimately unrealistic scheduling, so it's been a bit

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Speaker 1: of an overflowing few weeks. We've been out on the

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Speaker 1: road recording some amazing yeahborhood chats, but need a bit

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Speaker 1: more time to bring the editing together. So just taking

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Speaker 1: a little breather from the extra segment for this week

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Speaker 1: and next to make sure I do justice to those stories,

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Speaker 1: but also to give us time to line up some

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Speaker 1: other co hosts since you loved the banter so much.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually heading out to the Red Center this week

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Speaker 1: for an immersive women's cultural experience along the Larapinta Trail

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Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory, and won't have any signal for

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Speaker 1: time in many years, so there'll be a whole yays

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Speaker 1: of our Lives episode just on that I'm sure to

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Speaker 1: fill you in on all the revelations and our har moments.

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Speaker 1: I expect that that will stimulate after we return next week.

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Speaker 1: So things are still moving in the background for years

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Speaker 1: of our lives, just slower than I might have liked.

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Speaker 1: My own fault. Your regular interview scheduling, however, will continue,

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Speaker 1: and Years of our Lives will be back as soon

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Speaker 1: as possible. In the meantime, enjoy Julia Stone, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's my pleasure. What an absolute privilege.

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Speaker 1: I've been listening to your music for so long, so

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Speaker 1: to meet you in person, it's just so delightful.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: So before we kick off, I love to start by

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Speaker 1: asking everyone what the most down toward thing is about them.

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Speaker 1: To break through the often glossy surface level identity that

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Speaker 1: but particularly for those of us like yourself, who have

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Speaker 1: many wonderful achievements, who we've all often been introduced to

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Speaker 2: guess probably my absolute adoration for my dog. Ah, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're the same. We have a Golden Retriever called Paul,

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Speaker 2: My grandparents are cattle farmers on one side, and so

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Speaker 1: They're just whenever you're having an anxious moment or just

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Speaker 1: so beautiful. You can't be angry while your dog is happy.

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Speaker 1: You know, it gets more airtime, I think than a

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Speaker 1: were like as a child. I know music was part

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Speaker 2: I think music was always a part of our lives,

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Speaker 2: Prior to that, music had been something fun to do

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Speaker 1: who played the saxophone. I thought that was really interesting. Yes, Catherine.

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Speaker 2: and in a way, Catherine was probably the most naturally

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Speaker 2: And for me, it was just it was really a

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Speaker 2: Of not that, I guess, I just at first when

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Speaker 2: because being raised by stage yar kind of parents that

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I used to love that show. I

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Speaker 2: I guess that's something that nobody really knows about me.

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Speaker 2: I was a child actor until I was nine, and

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Speaker 2: I peaked? I peakd young early. I peaked in an

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Speaker 2: Australian film called Sirens. It was I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Early Stone's claim to fame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was. It was a big deal at primary school.

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Speaker 2: I got everybody El McPherson's autograph. You know, so I

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Speaker 2: weird how jealousy at a very young age seeps into,

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Speaker 1: So and difference. I think we spend so much of

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Speaker 2: I realized from all of that time of being out

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Speaker 2: school and they're still pivoting together and it's amazing and inspiring,

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00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: and you know, I sometimes think, what would that be like?

438
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: You know, that would be incredible. I mean, I still

439
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: have so much love for my high school boyfriend. I

440
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 2: just think he was so to what a great person

441
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: to have welcomed me into the world of relationship. He

442
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 2: was so kind and so funny and set the tone

443
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: for what a friendship inside of a relationship looks like.

444
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: And there was pain in it, of course, but yeah,

445
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: each person along the way has shown me something about

446
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 2: myself that I've needed to see.

447
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: Wow. And so then you entered this amazing chapter that

448
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: I mean, did you have any idea of how you

449
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: would become a household name? Now we all know who

450
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: you are. Did it start from just writing songs and

451
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: then you and Angus deciding to write songs together and

452
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: then they just happened to go really well or did

453
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: you set out with a plan for them to become

454
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: as widespread as they did? Like, how did it all unravel?

455
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: I suppose that the first step of Angus and I

456
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: connecting it all. We had been quite disconnected through the

457
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: years of our of being teenagers because of what I described.

458
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: Our parents lived separately. We had a lot of freedom

459
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: that we hadn't been allowed when they were together, so

460
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 2: we lived quite independently. I had moved in with my boyfriend.

461
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: It was kind of we were a bit ships in

462
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: the night, and I knew that he was interested in

463
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: music because we went to the same high school, so

464
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: he would sometimes be performing on the school assembly and

465
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 2: I knew he was really good. Like I remember seeing

466
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: him perform once and it was rowdy, like the kids

467
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: were all talking and you know it, you know, schools

468
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: just like teachers getting kids under control to pay attention

469
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: to a performance. And he walked out on stage and

470
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 2: as soon as he started singing, the whole room went

471
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: dead quiet, and it was a moment. I remember thinking,

472
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: there's something special about what he does. And this was

473
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: when I wasn't particularly interested in music. I just knew

474
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: Angus was onto something, you know, or something about him

475
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 2: was special. And well, when I was in South America,

476
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: Mum flew over and met my partner at the time

477
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: and me with Angus, and we went. We took our

478
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: backpacks and we went into the Bolivian Amazon and it

479
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 2: was a great experience. It was so wonderful. It was

480
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: an organization that was run by the tribal community in

481
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 2: the Amazon. It was to try and keep the youth

482
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: staying in the Amazon rather than trying to go to

483
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: the cities for work.

484
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

485
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: So a lot of them would speak five languages, the

486
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: traditional language, Spanish, German, English. It was incredible and they're

487
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: in the deep part of the Amazon forests and beautiful

488
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: eco lodge, and they would take us on walks around

489
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 2: the forest to tell us about the different animals. I

490
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: remember seeing a tarantula of the size of a plate.

491
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was incredible. And everywhere everywhere were

492
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: the I'm not sure how to pronounce it, but they

493
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: it's like the alligators or the crocodiles of the Amazon.

494
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: They called kaimaners, I think, and they just we'd go

495
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: out in canoes at night with the torches and you

496
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 2: could see them all around the boat, and you're in

497
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: a canoe that's kind of just on the surface. It

498
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 2: was really wild and wonderful, and we're all on anti

499
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: malaria tablets and having wild, vivid dreams and Angus we

500
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: had a guitar with us and he one morning I

501
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: came out and he was playing a song and I

502
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 2: asked him, you know whose song it was? It was

503
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: so beautiful and he said, oh, I wrote that. And

504
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 2: that was a moment where I realized he was also

505
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: writing songs about these incredible feelings he was having. And

506
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: I asked him if he could show me a couple

507
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: of chords on the guitar and he taught me to

508
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 2: play Ben Harper walk Away and he then left went

509
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: back to finish school. He was in year ten at

510
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: the time. And I then traveled onwards with the guitar,

511
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 2: and that was when I started really writing song songs.

512
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: I had them fully formed and I was playing them

513
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: for people in hostel and my partner and I had split,

514
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: and so I went down to Argentina and traveled all

515
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: the way up through Brazil, and it was me and

516
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: my guitar and my backpack, and I just asked people

517
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: to teach me songs everywhere I went. So I learned

518
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: from random travelers along the road. And that was a

519
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: year doing that. And then I got back to Australia

520
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: with maybe eight songs under my belt, and I had

521
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: no money, and Angus was living in Dad's house and

522
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: Dad had just met his soon to be wife, and

523
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: so we both lived there, you know, rent free at

524
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: Dad's place, writing songs.

525
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: After the nest, yeah, And.

526
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: It was then that you know, I started singing harmonies

527
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: on his songs, and he started singing harmonies on my songs.

528
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: He had a label that was interested in him and

529
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: he asked if I would come in and sing some

530
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: stuff with him for one of these label sessions, and

531
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: then the label sort of said, well, what is she doing?

532
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: What's going on? And they offered us a weird deal.

533
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 2: It was sort of together but a part, and it

534
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: was a very bad deal. Went No. That was later.

535
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: This was very early, even pre doing open mic nights.

536
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: Wow.

537
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: Then we started doing open mic nights. Our auntie, who

538
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: worked at EMI and had moved to London, got an

539
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: email from my mom saying, can you help the kids

540
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: because they don't know what they're doing and they're getting

541
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: offered deals but we don't know if they're good or not.

542
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: And she came back and took us into EMI and

543
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: a bunch of other places around Sydney and we played

544
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: just me and I guess we're walking with our guitars

545
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: and we didn't even still at this point see us

546
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: as a group. We were just playing one of his

547
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: songs and one of my songs and then yeah, we

548
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: got offered a record deal. We said, well, what do

549
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: we call ourselves and.

550
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: Feel like our names? Yeah?

551
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 2: Well, we went through all sorts of names, you know,

552
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: band names, and then we just we were like, this

553
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: is silly. Let's just say where angus and Julier and

554
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: oh that was the beginning.

555
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: Hey Yeahborhood. Just a quick word about our partner and

556
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: yay before we continue with today's episode. As you've probably seen,

557
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,719
Speaker 1: I've been zipping around town in a fabulous yamobile from Mitsubishi,

558
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: the amazing new Eclipse Cross and I'm so grateful to

559
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: the team for making our yeas of our live segment possible.

560
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: You all know I love working with partners who use

561
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: their influence in business for good and not only are

562
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: Mitsubishi enabling us to shine a light on unsung heroes

563
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: in the community, They've also just extended their own partnership

564
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: with Disaster Relief Australia. As part of this, they'll be

565
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: providing twenty five suv and all terrain vehicles across Adelaide, Brisbane, Canberra, Melbourne,

566
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Speaker 1: Sydney and Townsville, helping to fulfill Disaster Relief Australia's mission

567
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: to provide rapid disaster response in the wake of natural disasters.

568
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 1: Throughout the devastating twenty nineteen and twenty twenty bush by

569
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Speaker 1: A season, Mitsubishi helped Disaster Relief Australia deploy nearly six

570
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: hundred volunteers across the country to support with clearing bush

571
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Speaker 1: via land and this support accounted to a community value

572
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Speaker 1: of over two point two million dollars which will only

573
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Speaker 1: continue to grow this year. What a privilege it is

574
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: to have a partner in Yea with such a big heart.

575
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: And keep an eye out for the Yamobille as we'll

576
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: be heading out with Disaster Relief Australia to see more

577
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: of what they do in the coming months. Also for

578
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: anyone out in the neighborhood who would like to get involved.

579
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: Disaster Relief Australia are currently looking for volunteers nationally, so

580
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: people can sign up by visiting Disaster Relief oz dot

581
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: org slash volunteer. Now back to the show. Oh my gosh,

582
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: that is so fascinating. And this is the bit that

583
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you get to hear as much because

584
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, we all know of you as Angus and

585
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: Julia Stone already formed people. Forget that you actually had

586
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: to decide when that was going to happen, and then

587
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: choose a name and then figure out who was writing what.

588
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: And it's oh, that's so interesting. I didn't know any

589
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: of that. It's so cool how you came together and

590
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: I always think there will be so many people out

591
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: in the world who saw you at open mic nights

592
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: or who saw you playing around South America, who will

593
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: now see you and go I remember when I saw

594
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: her singing on the street. I think my husband had that.

595
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: He saw the Kook's busking Wow, years before they became famous.

596
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: And I think you do you forget once people really hit,

597
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: you know, platinum albums and all these huge accolades that

598
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: everyone had to start as you know, from the beginning

599
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: and from not knowing that it was going to go

600
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: that well, So what did you think? What was you

601
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: know once you knew that you know, you could get

602
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: a record deal and people loved your sound when you like,

603
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: for example, when you re recorded I think Big jet

604
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: Plane was Angus's songs that then you guys read wrote together.

605
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: When you release a song out into the world, what

606
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: do you actually think is going to happen? Like, do

607
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: you monitor people's response? Do you know it's going to

608
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: go well? Do you know that it's going to become

609
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: a song that now the whole world recognizes.

610
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: Is definitely not I bigd up playing And what happened

611
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: with that record down the way that was six years

612
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: into us touring, so we had by that point put

613
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: out maybe six EP's, we'd made a record or two records. No,

614
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: we'd made a record before that, and you know, we

615
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: had been living in London, we were playing. We had

616
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: gone from playing in front of eight people to twenty people,

617
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: to fifty people, to seventy people to one hundred and

618
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: fifty people. I mean, we were just years and years

619
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: on the road and we really liked touring, but we

620
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: you know, we also it was a lot of work.

621
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: And you know, we were touring in our eight hundred

622
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: pound to Rago with you know, the whole band living

623
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: in a three bedroom apartment, which was six people living

624
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: in a three bedroom space, and it was a lot

625
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: I mean, looking back, you think that was a lot

626
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: of fun, but it was tough, and it was a

627
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: long way from home, and you know, Angus is a surfer,

628
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: you know, not being near the beach and water, we

629
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: we were living a different life and it was it

630
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: was good for our writing, I think it was. It

631
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: was great for us to be in that environment and

632
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: London was a lot of fun. But by the time

633
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: Down the Way happened, we didn't have any expectations we'd

634
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: already signed deals, and you know, our deals weren't major deals,

635
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: they were just startup deals. You know. He's a bit

636
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: of money to keep you going whilst you play your

637
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: gigs and.

638
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: Write your food.

639
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't like we were in Forbes,

640
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: you know magazine for our record contracts. But yeah, we

641
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: had some really nice people that believed in us, and

642
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 2: we kept having just little incremental changes, you know, and

643
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: like I said, just watching the shows grow and people

644
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: coming back with more friends. And we both believed that

645
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: every show was an opportunity, and we'd meet people at

646
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: shows who worked at a radio station and then they'd say, oh,

647
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: I'd love you to come in and do an interview,

648
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: and we took every We were raised to be I think,

649
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: hard working, and we also, similar to what we were

650
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: talking about before we started recording, we also believed that

651
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: you'd never look at it an opportunity and turn it away.

652
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: So we were yes people. We were just if you

653
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: told us there was a gig tomorrow night in the

654
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: south of England and we just played in Scotland, we'd

655
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: just drive through the night and we'd sleep in the

656
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: car and we'd get there and we'd play and we

657
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: were so excited that we got to play gigs, and

658
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: so we felt really privileged. I mean, it was our

659
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: both of our parents' dreams to be performers, and here

660
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 2: we were living it. And we weren't famous, but we

661
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: were happy. And I mean I say that there were

662
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: so many challenges, but we were really you know, we

663
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 2: felt lucky. And so when big Jet Plane had the

664
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: success that it had, it was really really fun to

665
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: do bigger shows. But for both Angus and I we

666
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: were at that point we were ready for a break.

667
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: So it was funny. It was like at the time

668
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: that things really started to take off, we were exhausted

669
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: and we were kind of ready to also be our

670
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 2: own people. Apart from each other, we've been living together

671
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: as brother and sister, you know, in sharehouses for it

672
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: was going on, yeah, six years by down the way

673
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: and living on tour buses or split vans and doing

674
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 2: every interview together, doing every photo shoot together, doing every

675
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 2: radio together. And that's tough. And I think we both

676
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: have really different personalities and we have common values and

677
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: common beliefs, but we relate differently to people. And having

678
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: to sit in an interview and try and find a

679
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: tone that suits both of us and talk about things

680
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: that are relevant to both of us. Was it was tricky,

681
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 2: and sometimes we would clash, and we also we were

682
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: raised in a clashy environment, so that was also getting

683
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: out of those habits and behaviors that we that were normalized.

684
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: We had to do a lot of work and think

685
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: Angus and I both would say in different ways that

686
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: that's the thing we're most proud of now, is that

687
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: we figured out ways to get through it.

688
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's extraordinary. I love so many of

689
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: the things that you just said, particularly how you mentioned

690
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: it was really incremental, because I think any kind of

691
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: success or fulfillment is always incremental. It's just that you

692
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: often don't hear about all of the increments, particularly they're

693
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: less glamorous, harder, even the fact that you know, of

694
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: course siblings in business together, but particularly in art form together.

695
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: Of course there's going to be harder bits that don't

696
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: make you know most interviews, but behind the scenes there's

697
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: so much And I think I am so excited to

698
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: now see that you're here as Julia Stone. It's not

699
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: Angus and Julia Stone everything anymore. You've now had this

700
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: is your third solo album about to come out now,

701
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: and again it reiterates that idea that some of the

702
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: increments are going to be chapters that are you know,

703
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: with partners, and some might not be. In the last

704
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: few for you have been as a solo artist, which

705
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: has seen your sound come out as a beautiful individual

706
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: sound that even from album to album has changed so dramatically.

707
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: And I'm so lucky to have had a little sneak

708
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: peek of sixty Summers, which is such an even compared

709
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: to your own sound, quite unique and different. So tell

710
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: us about coming into your own now as an artist

711
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: and maybe weave in a little bit of what I

712
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: imagine is quite a jarring experience of building a new identity.

713
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: And if we ever have self doubt, I can imagine

714
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 1: it is when you first go out on your own

715
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: and put your sounds out there when you're not you

716
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: don't have two of you to kind of say, oh,

717
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: it was both of us. So if you don't like

718
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: it, it was both of us. If you like it, it was

719
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: just me.

720
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's really I've always did

721
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: my solo artists, and for that particular reason, because I

722
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: felt for both. I mean, I won't speak for Angus,

723
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: but for myself, that experience of it's ours really did

724
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: soften the fear that you have of presenting something. And

725
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 2: this record in particular, I have made three solo records,

726
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 2: but this one was different because my first two solo records,

727
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: The Memory Machine and By the Horns, felt like side

728
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: projects to Angus and Julia. Angus and Julia were was

729
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: always dominating our lives. It was in a good way.

730
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: It was just that thing that it was growing, and

731
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: it felt like that was where we should invest our time.

732
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 2: And Angus and I love writing songs together and working

733
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: in the studio, so that part of it, and that

734
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: part of making the actual music, we just loved doing

735
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: it and we were enjoying that. After down the Way,

736
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 2: actually we had sort of decided, Okay, now it's time

737
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 2: for solo music. And then we were thrust back together

738
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: by the very you know, very successful, wonderful producer Rick Rubin,

739
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 2: who just out of the blue was like, you guys,

740
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 2: think you're done, You're not done. And that was great

741
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: because that was a real healing record for us. And

742
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: then we then stepped into off the back of that

743
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: feeling great and making snow and again it was two

744
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: record cycles, and I felt like By the Horns and

745
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: the Memory Machine for us. Sorry, it's a little bit

746
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: of a jumbly way of saying this, but we both

747
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 2: write a lot of songs, and putting out a record

748
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: together it always felt like it was six songs of his,

749
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: six songs of mine, or six songs that I love,

750
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 2: or six songs that he loves, and we would put

751
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: them together. That's not a lot for a two year

752
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 2: album touring cycle, so side projects had to exist for

753
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: us to get the other music out, and the Memory

754
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 2: Machine and By the Horns felt like songs that could

755
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: have worked on an Angus and Julia record, but there

756
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: wasn't space for them. Yes, this record's different because this

757
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't work in that context. It's something that felt really

758
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: individual to me and something that sonically and lyrically, I

759
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: really it's been bubbling underneath the surfaces style of singing,

760
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: in this style of expressing that I just I've wanted

761
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: to do for so long, and a big part of

762
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: it was finding that confidence to do it and working

763
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: with Annie Clark, working with Thomas Bartlett, working with all

764
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: of the collaborators on this record. Really, it gave me

765
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: that confidence and I just felt like, yeah, this is

766
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: this is where I want to go artistically, and oh

767
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: my gosh. Yeah.

768
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: So my favorite favorite thing in doing these interviews is

769
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: watching when the guest's eyes start to sparkle when they

770
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: get to the bit where they're talking about the thing

771
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: that makes them really excited. And you just started sparkling,

772
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: like talking about it. And you know, this was recorded

773
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: between twenty fifteen and now, and that is a long

774
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: time for something to be brewing for you, which means

775
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: that I can imagine how much of you has gone

776
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: into finding this new sound and working with new collaborators,

777
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: having written with the same person over and over. And

778
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: I think there's five that have been released already, but

779
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: fourteen songs now that are all yours, with amazing, amazing

780
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: video clips. I just watched Before You Arrive, the one

781
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 1: with Susan Sarandon and Danny Glass, so random but amazing. Yeah,

782
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: what does it feel like? What does it? Are you

783
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: petrified that it's out in the open? Are you proud?

784
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: And also from a technical perspective, for the totally uninitiated

785
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: and non musical listeners out there, how do you write

786
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: a song? Do you hear the lyrics first? Do you

787
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: hear I know you play different instruments, so do you

788
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: hear it on a particular instrument like the vision? When

789
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: you actually break down every part of a song, from

790
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: its words to its backing, to its harmonies, to the melody,

791
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: like how does that all come into your brain? Do

792
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: you wake up one day and you just hear it?

793
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: Or how does it happen?

794
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: Well, I'll answer that question, then I'll go back to

795
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: how it feels to put the music out. Writing a song,

796
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: I think every time is really different. And traditionally for me,

797
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 2: writing was always on the piano or with an acoustic guitar,

798
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: and it's different for everybody, but for me it all

799
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: came at once. It was something where I would start

800
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: playing chords and then I would, I guess, almost at

801
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: the same time, hear the lyrics and the melody, and

802
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: I would sing it. And what I would often do

803
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: is record whilst I'm writing. And sometimes it's really formed

804
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: straight away, and other times, like a song like Death

805
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: Defying Acts, I remember writing almost just in one go through,

806
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: you know, in twenty minutes sort of thing, And other

807
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: times it'll be like I'll be, you know, jumbling around

808
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: with different lyrics and different ideas and singing melodies and

809
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: singing lyrics, and then I'll listen back and then I hear, oh,

810
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: that's what the song's about. That moment there is what

811
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: I want to sing about. And then I refine that

812
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: idea and develop it from there. And that's been a

813
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: really solo experience, that way of writing. Then when I

814
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: started writing with Angus, I guess and I write very

815
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: differently to that, where we will something like Chateau for instance.

816
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: We'll start with the bassline. We'll be in the studio

817
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: often it'll just be the two of us. He will

818
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: play a bass line, I'll play a guitar part over

819
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: the top. Then we layer that in protos and just

820
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: lay a parts and start to create it vibe. And

821
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: then we will, you know, we'll send that to our

822
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: friend who plays drums and feel like do something with it, Yeah,

823
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: like give us a FOURD to the floor kick pil

824
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 2: you know, and send it back and then we'll have

825
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: a kick and bass part that's pretty basic. And then

826
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: we sit opposite each other and we both have a

827
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: microphone and we just loop it for you know, thirty

828
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: minutes and we make up funny stuff and some times

829
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: out yeah, we just He'll say something and it makes

830
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: me think of something and we go back and forwards.

831
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: And a lot of that record Snow was written like

832
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: that because you can hear it in songs like Snow

833
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: where that stuff was from just the writing session where

834
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: it's I mean, I can't remember right now how the

835
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,479
Speaker 2: song goes, but that back and forward style singing where

836
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: Angus says something, then I say something, then he says something.

837
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: And then Chateau was you know he we found in

838
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: the lyrics somewhere this. I think he had said something

839
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: like about the chateau and we're like, that's really cool,

840
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: like you know the memory of being at the chateau.

841
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: Mo'm on I'd said something about dancing in the hotel

842
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 2: room and it felt like, oh, there's the story, and

843
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: then you know, we build around it. But working on

844
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: this record again was different. Thomas Bartlett, who was a

845
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: co writer for a lot of it. I'd go into

846
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: the studio, He's got a studio in Midtown in New York,

847
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: and he would play me really interesting like break was.

848
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 2: He'd play me those kind of the sex line and

849
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: the looped beats and he'd play it and he'd just

850
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: set up a microphone and say go and I just

851
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: sing and say stuff. And so I left and I

852
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: started dancing under the street light, and you saw me,

853
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: and I saw that you saw me and I and

854
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: you know, I just I guess I love I like

855
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: spoken word, I like freestyle writing.

856
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: But I'm two.

857
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: I'm not the person who's gonna go and do that

858
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 2: live all.

859
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: The time all the time.

860
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: But I really enjoyed in the studio and there's only

861
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 2: certain people I feel comfortable doing that with in front,

862
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: like in front of them, which is Angus and then

863
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: Thomas and Nannie. I felt really comfortable to just just

864
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: write and just make stuff up. And a lot of

865
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: the time that's where the songs would form, just having

866
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: someone else create the sound and then I'd create the

867
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: lyrics and melody.

868
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, so cool, because I always have wondered, like

869
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 1: where does it just come into your brain like a vision?

870
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: And do you ever like I think with business people

871
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: we look back at earlier iterations of what we do

872
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: and cringe. And I think if you don't cringe over

873
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: your earlier work, you haven't done it right. Because you

874
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: haven't evolved enough. Do you cringe it your earlier music ever,

875
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: or do you love every single part of it for

876
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: what it was at the time.

877
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: I mean, there was a time where I couldn't listen

878
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: to anything ever, you know, if something would come on

879
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: in a shop, I would walk out of the shop

880
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: because I was so self depreciating about the recording or

881
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: the way I had sung. And I think my voices

882
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: developed a lot. There's a lot more strength in how

883
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: I sing. When I started, I was very, very delicate

884
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: in my delivery, and that was just because that's how

885
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: I sang. I didn't have a strong voice, and years

886
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: and years of singing changes your voice. And now I

887
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: listen if a song comes on, like one of the

888
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: early songs like Private Lawns or Mango Tree or I

889
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: find it really sweet, you know, and I feel a

890
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: sense of like pride around the child that I was

891
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: when I made that. And I have this real I

892
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 2: can hear the lost voice, and I can hear the insecurity,

893
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 2: and I can I mean, I just have this feeling

894
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 2: of like, what an amazing confidence then to still it's

895
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: so scary to put yourself out in the world. And

896
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: I think that's big credit to our parents. We were

897
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: really lucky that we didn't question that there were people

898
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: so much more talented than us on the open mic

899
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 2: night scene that didn't have that confidence or that support.

900
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: And Angus and I talked about it a lot. How

901
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, we were We had a lot of self

902
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: belief and there's an innocence in that. There's this naivety

903
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: you know people. I'm sure a lot of people didn't

904
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: want to play our music. It was very it wasn't

905
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: what was happening in Australian music at the time. But

906
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: we just kept going and we just felt like, you know,

907
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: there was something good in it, and.

908
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely was, thank goodness. But how does that, yeah,

909
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: how does that so doubt play out for you?

910
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: Now?

911
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: Releasing this huge, huge album that's been so long in

912
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: the works. That's so different again, And I think being

913
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: at the cutting edge of something and doing something different

914
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: to what you've ever done is the scariest thing you

915
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: can ever do. So how are you feeling now knowing

916
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: there's still half an album to be released? Are you excited?

917
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: Is there anything you're burning to let everyone hear?

918
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited. I feel like the self doubt part.

919
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when people don't like what you

920
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: do in any context. I think if people don't like

921
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: something you say at a party or you know, you're impacted,

922
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: or at least I am, because that's something I guess

923
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 2: is part of my built identity. Is I like being liked.

924
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: I like making people feel comfortable around me. I enjoy

925
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: that feeling. And so you know, music, I guess, isn't

926
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 2: at an expression of that. So if someone really specifically

927
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: doesn't like it, then it's not going to make me

928
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 2: feel good. But I don't care as much as I

929
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: used to. I just I do what I do and

930
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 2: if it's not for you, it's not for you. And

931
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: I feel really excited because it is a body of

932
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: work that I'm really proud of and I had a

933
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: lot of fun making and I can hear that in

934
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: the record. It's really varied and there's every song has

935
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: its own I mean, every song has something really heartfelt

936
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: behind it, and it's been built, like you know, brick

937
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: by brick. I feel like I've built this house with

938
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: these people I love in such a detailed way that

939
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm so excited for people to come over for a

940
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: cup of tea, and some people will notice that, you know,

941
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: the architraves are really unique and special and every window

942
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: is you know, different and has been selected from markets

943
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: around the world, and other people will just enjoy the

944
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 2: cup of tea and not notice that. But for me,

945
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: it's just knowing that I've built it with so much

946
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: love and care. I know that, and that feels good

947
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: and that's exciting. And I don't know, I think humans

948
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: are pretty intuitively smart. I think other people can feel

949
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: that when you've put love and care into something, it

950
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 2: comes across on some subconscious level. So I hope some

951
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 2: people get to feel that, because yeah, yeah, the record's

952
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: really interesting and different.

953
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: It's so different. I love it so much. It is

954
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: so varied, and I think that's such a testament to

955
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: you as an artist as well, that you can create

956
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: such a broad range of music and continue to kind

957
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: of surprise with new styles and new ways of using

958
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: your voice. And yeah, it's extraordinary. So congratulations. I'm so

959
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 1: excited for you. Just to finish up. This is something

960
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: I am quite fascinated about generally, but particularly in the

961
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: case of artists. This section is your plata, which is

962
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: who you are when you're stripped back from all the

963
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: titles and all the product, you know, productive endeavors that

964
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: you have in your life. So for people who are

965
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: employed or people who are business people, the line is

966
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: a little bit clearer because it's sort of on off.

967
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: But in music or creative you're often drawing your inspiration

968
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: for like the process of writing over years and years,

969
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: that on offline is very blurry I can imagine and

970
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: very hard to I mean, you must enjoy music of

971
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: others as well as writing it yourself. So in any job,

972
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: but particularly when you love your job the most, you

973
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: still need to find joy that's unrelated to it so

974
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: that your brain can have a rest, so that you

975
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: get inspiration. How do you play? What are the things

976
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: that you do that are purely for joy and that

977
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: maybe aren't related to music, so that you do give

978
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 1: yourself space to come back fresh when you're writing again,

979
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: or maybe you don't need that. Maybe it is still

980
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: music and that's all tied up together as work and play.

981
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: How does it all work for you?

982
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: I think both the two. I think there are times

983
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: that music is completely tied up in my play, whether

984
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: it's going out dancing and having that sort of experience

985
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 2: of endo, often released through moving the body to rhythm.

986
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: But I've realized over the years of being so immersed

987
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: in music and being so completely you know, there is

988
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: no weekend. It's just I'm thinking about it all the time,

989
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: and whether it's the collaboration of the music video and

990
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: the what goes into making that, and I mean all

991
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 2: of it's fun for me. I feel like, again so

992
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: lucky that this is my life. But I don't turn

993
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 2: off easily.

994
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: And that doesn't surprise me.

995
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 2: So I've had to develop ways to turn off. And

996
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 2: it sounds maybe a little extreme, but what I have

997
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: found works for me being the way that I am

998
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 2: and being quite an extreme person and living an extreme

999
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,280
Speaker 2: life of probably at least ten months touring up until

1000
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 2: the pandemic. But when I had those couple of months

1001
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 2: where I wasn't touring or recording or writing, I take

1002
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: myself to Vapashona.

1003
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow, guys, that's a ten days silent retreat, completely silent,

1004
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: like no talking to other human beings. Yeah, double the

1005
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: introspection that must happen.

1006
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's very uncomfortable for the first few days.

1007
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: It's an extreme shock to the system. In the same

1008
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 2: way I imagine if you're a heavy drinker, stopping drinking

1009
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: all of the sudden completely, or stopping anything all of

1010
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: the sudden, stopping interaction with other humans when it's the

1011
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: predominant part of your life the first few days is

1012
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: having that the fear around what I'm going to see

1013
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: and what I'm going to confront and what I'm going

1014
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: to face. But I find it extremely healing, and with

1015
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: a good teacher as well. I've done all kinds of

1016
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: a passions with the go Ankadee system that's all over

1017
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 2: the world, and then Insight meditation, which is another style

1018
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: of a passionate and had extraordinary teach and feel so

1019
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 2: lucky to have sat with them because the kind of

1020
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: wisdom that is given to us as students is you know,

1021
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: I think I've always been doing this in a way,

1022
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: from when I started backpacking. I was seeking out this

1023
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: other side of what could be considered peace or joy

1024
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: or connection and music has been a big part of that,

1025
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:28,959
Speaker 2: but it's also a job. So meditation and the spiritual

1026
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: community I think is really helpful for me and yeah

1027
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: for passions, not for everybody, but I love it. I'm

1028
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: weirdly in love with the process and probably the thing

1029
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: I miss most about the pandemic has not been able

1030
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: to go and retreat.

1031
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: Wow. Do you do one every year?

1032
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 2: Yes? I mean you know, for the past six years.

1033
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1034
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: Wow, Oh my gosh.

1035
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: Well that could be one of your answers to the

1036
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: second last question. What are three interesting things about you

1037
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: that don't normally come up in use? The things that

1038
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: only someone who lived with you would know, like weirds,

1039
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: gnoring habits, or funny party tricks.

1040
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: Or I'm very into having baths. Oh me do.

1041
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: My husband thinks it's like bathing in your own filth,

1042
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: but I think it's the most relaxing thing you could

1043
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: ever do. I'm like, I'm clean. How do do do

1044
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: you think I am?

1045
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? And I have a very I'm a very cold

1046
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: like I run really cold. So baths are like I

1047
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: just find them so comforting. And I love Switch. So

1048
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: I play Switch in the bath. What switch? It's like

1049
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 2: a Nintendo Nintendo switch.

1050
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: I was like, surely not that switch?

1051
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so people. And then I love gaming. Probably I

1052
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: guess that's three things, but.

1053
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have one last one. What is your favorite

1054
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: song that isn't one of your own or a favorite song?

1055
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:55,959
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have many.

1056
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: I mean a couple that are on varying degree of

1057
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: the spectrum. Is you know, we grew up with Americana

1058
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 2: music like Neil Young, Johnny Mitchell and all of those

1059
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: that crew. And I was obsessed with Neil Young's Comes

1060
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 2: a Time record, and I love most of the tracks

1061
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: on that record like a lot, and Comes a Time

1062
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 2: is a song that I really anytime I hear it,

1063
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 2: I think it's a phenomenal piece of songwriting. But then

1064
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: I also love Kylie's Real Groove. You know that's like

1065
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 2: at the moment, I just think that's a brilliant pop song,

1066
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: and every time I hear it, I'm so happy.

1067
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: A love a musician you would love to collaborate with.

1068
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 2: I mean, Kylie, I love her. I always be the best.

1069
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: It would be really fun and I think she's so badass,

1070
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: and you know, just yeah, she's awesome. You know people

1071
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 2: that have passed on, like Leonard Cohen and David Bowie.

1072
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 2: Of course, if you could choose one throughout history so.

1073
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: We can hologram them back to you for Coachella and

1074
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: you guys can talk it right. And final question, what's

1075
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: your favorite quote? Oh?

1076
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: Favorite quote? I don't know who said this, except for

1077
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: my friend who said it to me once when I

1078
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: was extremely heartbroken. I had I had gone into a

1079
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: space that wasn't great after losing someone that I really

1080
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: I felt a strong bond with. And I guess the

1081
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: loss of friendship was a big deal, and they some

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Speaker 2: I was. I was actually on another retreat in India

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Speaker 2: and my friend was sitting with me and we were

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Speaker 2: throwing stones in the river well, playing this game where

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Speaker 2: you chuck one stone up and then you have to

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Speaker 2: try and hit it. It's a really calming game if

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Speaker 2: you ever need something to take your mind of things.

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Speaker 2: And oh another thing I was going to say, sorry,

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Speaker 2: this goes back to before you said, what else do

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Speaker 2: I do? Aside from a passionate I also love sports

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Speaker 2: away stop. I play squash and tennis, and that's another

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Speaker 2: thing that I do to take my mind of I

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Speaker 2: love that jusick. My dad always said, well, if she

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Speaker 2: didn't get into music, she would have been on the

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Speaker 2: Aussie soccer team.

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Speaker 1: I loved never too late.

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Speaker 2: I can have a mature Yeah, so you can do

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Speaker 2: everything kids. I was sitting playing this game and I

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Speaker 2: was really concentrating and I was talking. I was trying

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Speaker 2: to unravel what had happened, and he just said to me,

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Speaker 2: what is for you won't go by you.

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Speaker 1: I love that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I found it really helpful, and I just thought,

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Speaker 2: that's so true. I mean, why are we so afraid?

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Speaker 2: If it's meant for us, it will find us? And

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Speaker 2: it made so much sense to me because of course,

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Speaker 2: throughout life there are friendships, there are loves that come

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Speaker 2: and then go forever, and there are some that will

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Speaker 2: return at a different point in your life, and you

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Speaker 2: don't have to be afraid. It's if it's meant to be,

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Speaker 2: it'll it'll find you again.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. That's beautiful and so a perfect way

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Speaker 1: to end. Thank you so much for joining. This was

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Speaker 1: amazing and I'm so excited about sixty summers.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so Nay's talking with you, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I truly love metaphorically climbing into the brains of people

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Speaker 1: like Julia, whose minds just uprates so differently to my own.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine just hearing a brand new song out

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Speaker 1: of nowhere in my ears? Did anyone else find it

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Speaker 1: fascinating to hear how she writes songs like how incredible

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Speaker 1: is it? That music just comes from nothing into something

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Speaker 1: in the mind of an artist like hers, and then

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Speaker 1: that people can even collaborate to create something from nothing together.

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Speaker 1: If you enjoyed, as always, please let Julia know by

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Speaker 1: sharing and tagging her. It means so much for our

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Speaker 1: guests to hear feedback and to help us continue to

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Speaker 1: scout new amazing humans to share their stories. Sixty Summers

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Speaker 1: is a beautiful sensory experience such a cool album, make

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Speaker 1: sure to tune in as soon as the remaining tracks

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Speaker 1: launch in the coming days. The album comes out officially

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Speaker 1: on April thirtieth, but in the meantime, hope you have

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Speaker 1: an amazing week and is seizing your ya