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Speaker 1: On Makeup is My Therapy.

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty the podcast for your Face.

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Speaker 1: I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly McCarron, and before we get

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Speaker 1: into today's questions, we've got beauty News.

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Speaker 4: Hello. Welcome to the Beauty Edit. It's your weekly download

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Speaker 4: of everything that you have missed in the world of beauty.

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Speaker 4: I'm Taylor Strano and you may know me from Mamma

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Speaker 4: MIA's daily news podcast, The Quickie. But while cast is away,

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Speaker 4: I've taken over the reins and I'm putting on my

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Speaker 4: beauty hat. I'm very excited. I'm joined, of course, by

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Speaker 4: our lovely Sophie Campbell. Hi.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you going very well.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for letting me come and crash the party today.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: I know you're big beauty experts, are excited to see

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Speaker 3: what was in your beauty world this week.

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Speaker 4: Okay, big shoester Phil, but I'm gonna try it my best.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with have you ever heard of this word

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Speaker 4: skin intellectuals.

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Speaker 3: Before, kind of I don't know exactly what it means.

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Speaker 3: It sounds very fancy, sounds like someone that basically is

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Speaker 3: an expert on actives in skin.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you've nailed it. So this science first beauty revolution

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Speaker 4: is here. It's being run by these people we now

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Speaker 4: know as skin intellectuals. If you're asking what that is,

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Speaker 4: pretty much it's just now consumers are trading logos for outcomes.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know about you, but I was a

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Speaker 4: sucker for packaging first, ingredient list later Yeah, no idea.

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Speaker 3: What was in anything I was buying, just buying it

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Speaker 4: I feel like the narrative is switch now that and

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Speaker 4: we're seeing that in like the way products are marketed

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Speaker 4: to us. So we're stripping back all the fluffy, shiny,

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Speaker 4: a lab. It's ingredient driven. We're seeing that in the

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Speaker 4: stats now as well. Right, so eighty three percent of

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Speaker 4: people are now prioritizing skincare so doing away with those glittery,

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Speaker 4: sparkly packages, which is still lovely, yes, of course, Like

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say no if someone hands me a

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Speaker 4: shiny lip gloss. But now I'm also looking at the

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Speaker 4: ingredient list for sure. So if you don't know, the

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Speaker 4: ingredient list aka the inky list is like a standardized

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Speaker 4: ingredient list. It's telling you about every single thing that's

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Speaker 4: And obviously, as we know, when something is higher up

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Speaker 4: the inky List I n k E Y. Now that's

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Speaker 4: a play on the ingredients of inky list, which is

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Speaker 4: like what we use in the beauty industry. I say,

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Speaker 4: so I like, I don't know about you. But one

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Speaker 4: right yeah, like that reel like I was saying before

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Speaker 4: minimal Packaging. It's basically just the name of the product

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Speaker 4: real if you know, you know kind of thing. But

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Speaker 3: I mean I feel like my skincare routine is getting

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Speaker 4: Like that scares me for so many reasons, one like

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Speaker 4: They're the big three ingredients, so that obviously when people

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Speaker 4: realistically that's going to look like, Yes, my body shape

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Speaker 4: someone else. It's the same for skincare. I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 4: about like that authenticity thing.

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Speaker 4: Finally, I'm not looking for a fifteen step skincare routine though.

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Speaker 3: No, no one has time for that. All right, Taylor,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So it can't all be like fun TikTok

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Speaker 4: with me. So basically, Laurel, who we know as this

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Speaker 4: business news in luxury beauty this year. Okay. Admittedly I

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Speaker 4: coining that phrase, this totally validates that.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, so luxury fashion house Caring, who owned massive brands

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Speaker 4: and now Loreol will be looking after it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's an endorsement favor needed one. Plus there's this

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Speaker 4: Like that's a huge responsibility. But I mean, like it's Loreal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like a huge deal that Caring would

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I read that Loreo has a four thousand scientists

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Speaker 4: Do you know, whenever someone says longevity or luxury and wellness,

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Speaker 4: all I think about is Gwyneth culture and Goop. Now,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what this means. Does this mean Gucci

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and as you said, smart move. Let their fashion

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Speaker 3: houses do fashion and let the scientists do science. That's

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Speaker 3: into all your beauty dilemmas with Lee and Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Well, that was very interesting. Oh I felt like the

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Speaker 2: weather man just threw back to.

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Speaker 1: Me literally, except its beauty.

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Speaker 2: News Carl Stefanovic and I'm the other person.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine, before we get into our questions for today.

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Speaker 1: So if you're new listening every Monday, we answer your

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Speaker 1: and we love receiving dms and emails. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: we really miss your voice.

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Speaker 4: Remember the boy.

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Speaker 1: So back when we first out, we literally had a podphone,

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Speaker 2: And then send it because we love playing your voices.

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Speaker 2: We love hearing you.

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Speaker 1: Breaks it up a little bit, so it's not just

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Speaker 1: us yeap and yes, and not Kelly reading the question exactly.

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Speaker 1: But speaking of let me read a question for you.

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Speaker 4: This I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything. You

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Speaker 2: You'll see, it's very hard to find a fantastic foundation

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Speaker 2: Have you tried that Morphy I can't remember? Means you

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Speaker 2: It is but bad to get though, well you can

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Speaker 2: group fall Slashes. Hi all, I'm seeking Lash recommendations something

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Speaker 2: preglued and they're on the top of the lash. My

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Speaker 2: best friend Tiagan natotally cannot do makeup to save her life,

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Speaker 2: but she loves the silly George Blush pop on lashes

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Speaker 2: pre glued under lash. Oh, they're clusters, but they go underneath.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd like the if a life

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Speaker 2: of me can't make them work, they kind of glue

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Speaker 2: to your like the hair. Yeah, they look great on

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Speaker 2: her all the time.

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Speaker 1: And she depends on your eye shape, right, because I

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Speaker 1: think I'd like that feeling.

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Speaker 2: So much easier than trying to get on top when

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Speaker 2: you can't see what you're doing on top, whereas you

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Speaker 2: know you could lift your lid if you need and

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Speaker 2: get it under or whatever. So she swears by those

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Speaker 2: and another one I like, which is the lash v

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Speaker 2: Diy lash cluster kits. They come with like a bond

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Speaker 2: and a seal if you want to do them for

447
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Speaker 2: like a week. I just use my regular lash glue

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Speaker 2: and wear them for a day and they go on

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Speaker 2: the top as well. So what I would recommend is

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Speaker 2: the problem with these little clusters is they' quite hard

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Speaker 2: to get out of the thing. I would very gently

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Speaker 2: pull them out with your fingers. Then you can use

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Speaker 2: tweezers or there's like little lash tweezers and you pick

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Speaker 2: it up by the end of the hair, dip it

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Speaker 2: in the glue or whatever you've got going on, Like

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Speaker 2: Kelly says, you shake it for a bit to get tacky,

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Speaker 2: and then I look down like that and then like

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Speaker 2: pop it on top and then don't do any other makeup.

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Speaker 2: Let it dry because then I might go over it

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Speaker 2: with a shadow like a just to make.

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Speaker 1: It all Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, also the lash glue can look quite shiny.

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Speaker 1: Yes. And you also squeeze your real lash and the

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Speaker 1: fake lash together, yeah, just to make them all look

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Speaker 1: like one.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 2: And I would have curled and mascarret first. I make

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Speaker 2: up artist friend of mine that does my makeup occasionally.

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Speaker 4: We'll do that.

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Speaker 2: Then put the lashes on, bend final code of mascarat

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Speaker 2: to unify. I don't do that. I feel like it

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Speaker 2: gets a bit clumpy. But she's only even doing my

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Speaker 2: makeup to go somewhere fancy, so.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if it's a bit o yet.

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Speaker 2: But you will need to sit down, practice, buy a

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Speaker 2: few different types, put them on, take them off, put

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Speaker 2: them on, take them off, or you know, just put

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Speaker 2: them on when you're only going to the post office,

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Speaker 2: because don't do lushes for the first or second time

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Speaker 2: and you're rushing to somewhere fancy, because you'll bugger it up.

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Speaker 2: You'll get glue everywhere, you'll be cranky, and you'll throw

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Speaker 2: your lushes. Practice makes perfect. It's like curling your hair

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Speaker 2: with a straightener. You will need to practice.

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Speaker 1: My beauty bite is something both of us have probably,

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Speaker 1: in fact, I definitely we've spoken about before, but it's just,

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Speaker 1: I guess, a reminder, because even I needed to be reminded.

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Speaker 1: So I recently interviewed the delightful Max May for an

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Speaker 1: upcoming episode on the formula.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, upcoming, I haven't missus.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, so much knowledge.

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Speaker 2: And isn't he beautiful? And is so glorious he's.

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Speaker 1: Looking at God. He literally looks a Greci in God,

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Speaker 1: a Greci. He's so beautiful. But anyway, before we started recording,

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Speaker 1: I was just chatting to him and we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: what foundations we liked, and he was telling me how

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Speaker 1: much he loved luminous silk, and I was like, I've

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Speaker 1: never been able to get it to really work for me.

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Speaker 2: It's not as luminous as they say.

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Speaker 1: And then as he'd walked in, we were talking about

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Speaker 1: an oil and he goes, why don't you just put

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Speaker 1: a drop of that oil that you were just talking

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Speaker 1: about in it? And I went, oh my god, Like

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Speaker 1: I definitely have done that before and told people to

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Speaker 1: do that before, but I just forgot so and I

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Speaker 1: do have my bottle of luminous silk that I bought

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Speaker 1: at home that I'm like, I don't know what to

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Speaker 1: do with you, because I don't really you don't really

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Speaker 1: work for my skin. Just if something is too thick

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Speaker 1: for you, add a little drop of serum or like

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Speaker 1: mix it with your moisturizer or a little drop of

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Speaker 1: your favorite oil in just to immediately shear it out,

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Speaker 1: make it more blendable, make it more glowy, more skin like.

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Speaker 1: So not really, my host tackets a reminder from miss

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Speaker 1: math May.

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Speaker 2: My girlfriend does that too. She always looks like an

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Speaker 2: angel light globe. And I see what foundation you're wearing.

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Speaker 2: She's like, this foundation but with the drop of oil. Yes, foundation,

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Speaker 2: but with the drop of oil. And I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 2: too early for that. But I've done it to very

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Speaker 2: matt formulas before the two mat for me. Or you

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Speaker 2: can use a serum like do you know what's good

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Speaker 2: to do that? The nuturium barrier abounts that we never

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Speaker 2: stopped talking about because it's kind of an oil serum.

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Speaker 2: It's not ser oily oil exactly. I loved that.

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Speaker 4: This is my.

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Speaker 2: Beauty bone looks like it'll bite you. Do you know

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Speaker 2: what it is?

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Speaker 1: It looks like, no, what is that it looks like

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Speaker 1: a sharpener or something.

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Speaker 2: It does, doesn't it If you're not watching on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: I'm holding a little pink transarent crap thing. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: looks kind of scary. It's a travel alash curler, what

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Speaker 2: I know. So because we were talking on lashes, this

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Speaker 2: made me think this gets into the bits because I've

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Speaker 2: got a million normal elash curls and you're trying to get

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Speaker 2: them all in it once. This firstly is the size

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: It would fit in a pocket.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you flip that down and then you put your

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Speaker 2: lashes in curly curly curl so you can literally I've

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Speaker 2: got glasses on it and I'm not going to do it,

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Speaker 2: but you can go in there and do that and

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Speaker 2: in that and then that, and because of the shape

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Speaker 2: of it, you can get I mean, you don't want

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Speaker 2: to have right angle lushes, but you can get right

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Speaker 2: at the base and make your lashes literally face the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: Put your a scar on because you know how the

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Speaker 2: those flop a bit. You probably don't even have to

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Speaker 2: curl your blessed thing. It is phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Where did you get that? Because also, I don't ever

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Speaker 1: want to take my eyelash curler away with me because

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Speaker 1: it's an annoying thing to pack.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and like such an old shoot that you would

554
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Speaker 2: need an eyelash curler in your clutch for a night out.

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Speaker 2: But it's so little that if say you were doing

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Speaker 2: MATCHUPITCHU hiking and you need to carry lushes and mind

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Speaker 2: you to have great lashes. I bought mine at w Cosmetics.

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Speaker 2: You can get them everywhere. Six eighty five is where

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Speaker 2: we've linked to the show notes Stop Yeap and get

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Speaker 2: Blue as well. When I opened it, because the instructions

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Speaker 2: were all in Koree, and of course I was like great,

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Speaker 2: and I'm putting it on. I'm like, but how but

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Speaker 2: to find that flip and little flip and then do

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Speaker 2: you know what that is in there? That's his spair

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Speaker 2: little rubber. Isn't it so good? You will not get

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Speaker 2: a better curl than with this? And what I do sometimes,

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Speaker 2: which is like three times a year now, if I've

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Speaker 2: done make upon and then I've got to rush out

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Speaker 2: to somewhere fun and fabulous, I just refresh my lashes

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Speaker 2: with this suit. You honestly looks like you're kind of

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Speaker 2: like you're itching your eye as well.

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Speaker 1: Like I like the feelings sometimes when it pulls them

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Nope, okay, just me if you Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would only do that with a tubulum ascar or

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Speaker 1: two because they're more rubberies, so I wouldn't do it's

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Speaker 1: like a waterproof because it snappy lushes off exactly.

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Speaker 4: That is so fun to play.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's so cute. I love little things. On that note,

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Speaker 1: with me talking about itching my eyeballs, I guess that's

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Speaker 1: all that we have time for today, So email us

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Speaker 1: either words.

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Speaker 2: Or voice at you beauty at mama mea dot com

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Speaker 2: dot are you? You can send us a DM on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Bye