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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mumma Mea acknowledges

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mummama's twice daily news podcast,

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Speaker 2: The Quickie. With just four days until the federal election,

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Speaker 2: we're putting your biggest concerns to candidates from across the

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Speaker 2: political spectrum. Before we get there, here's Clemurphy with the

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Speaker 2: latest from the Quickie newsroom for Tuesday, April twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor, the hero police officer who prevented further casualties

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Speaker 1: in a mass stabbing at Bondi Junction Westfield, will testify

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Speaker 1: about what exactly went down as she approached the killer

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Speaker 1: that day. Inspector Amy Scott will give her testimony to

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Speaker 1: the inquest into the April twenty twenty four attack, which

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Speaker 1: saw a man armed with a thirty centimeter long knife

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Speaker 1: enter the Westfield and begin attacking strangers, killing six, mostly women,

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Speaker 1: and injuring ten others. She was the first police officer

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Speaker 1: to arrive on the scene, pursuing the forty year old

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Speaker 1: attacker and shooting him twice as he ran towards her

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Speaker 1: with the knife. Yesterday, the lead investigator into the attack

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Speaker 1: said he was in awe of how Inspector Scott had

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Speaker 1: handled the situation, including her having the awareness to tell

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Speaker 1: bystanders to get out of her line of fire before

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Speaker 1: discharging her weapon, saying she acted bravely and professionally. Spain, Portugal,

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Speaker 1: and parts of France have been hit by a widespread

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Speaker 1: power outage that has halted public transport, caused major traffic jams,

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Speaker 1: and delayed flights. The cause of the outage is not

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Speaker 1: yet known. Some say it's linked to recent extreme temperature variations,

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Speaker 1: while a cyber attack has not been ruled out. Hospitals

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Speaker 1: are also without power, and people remain trapped inside the

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Speaker 1: metro and in elevators as the power companies work to

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Speaker 1: restore their service. People have been told to stay home

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Speaker 1: and limit the use of the phone network while work

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Speaker 1: up and running. High rise buildings in the Spanish capital

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Speaker 1: on phone services dropped in and out. The outage also

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Speaker 1: impacted the Madrid Open tennis tournament, with Grigor Dimitrov and

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Speaker 1: went dark and the cameras stopped working. Russian President Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Putin has declared a three day ceasefire in Ukraine next

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Speaker 1: month to mark the eightieth anniversary of the victory of

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Speaker 1: According to the Kremlin, the seventy two hour ceasefire will

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Speaker 1: President Putin declaring the full cessation of hostilities was on

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Speaker 1: humanitarian grounds. The ceasefire comes as US President Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: meeting with Ukraine President Volodimir Zelenski on the sidelines of

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Speaker 1: the Pope's funeral on the weekend. Zelenski said he would

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Speaker 1: deal has been broken. The conclave to start the process

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Speaker 1: of electing a new pope will begin on May seven.

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Speaker 1: The date was decided in a closed door meeting of

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Speaker 1: the Vatican on Monday Sistine Champel, where the one hundred

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Speaker 1: the decision is now closed to tourists as it's prepared for

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Speaker 1: the event. The past two conclaves have lasted just two days,

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Speaker 1: many of the cardinals appointed by Pope Frances come from

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Speaker 1: places that have never had them before, including Mian Ma,

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Speaker 1: Haiti and Rwanda, and have never met each other. The

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Speaker 1: men accused of robbing Kim Kardashian in her apartment in

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Speaker 1: referred to as the Grandpa Robbers. The main suspects, who

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, voicing her fears that after she was tied up,

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Speaker 1: One of them, seventy year old Uni mis Abbas, has

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Speaker 2: Thanks Clan. Next, we asked what you want from this election,

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Speaker 2: so here's how the candidates planned to deliver. Last month,

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Speaker 2: we asked Mamma, Mire, readers and listeners about what matters

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Speaker 2: most to you this election. The results were crystal clear.

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Speaker 2: We've co of Living emerging as the overwhelming concern, nominated

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Speaker 2: by sixty nine percent of you as a top five issue.

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Speaker 2: Healthcare and hospital funding came in second at sixty percent,

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Speaker 2: followed by climate action at forty five percent. Housing affordability

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Speaker 2: and action on domestic and family violence rounded out your

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Speaker 2: telling us you're the primary decision makers in your households.

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Speaker 2: These are just survey results. There are a powerful message

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Speaker 2: to politicians. So what are the parties bringing to the

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Speaker 2: from across the political spectrum. First up, the cost of living.

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Speaker 2: It's this big umbrella term covering everything from the price

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Speaker 2: might have heard the Prime Minister Anthony Alberansi and Opposition

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Speaker 3: So there's a tax break of twelve hundred dollars which

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Speaker 3: We've also cut the fuel excise, which means every tank

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Speaker 3: And then there's the more structural pieces that we'll be

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Speaker 3: and all our incentives are around people buying new homes.

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Speaker 3: There's a mortgage relief up to six hundred and fifty thousand,

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Speaker 3: which is once again also means tested. There's also first

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Speaker 3: We're also working with APRA to get hex help debt

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Speaker 2: And what about the Greens. Here's Green's member for Queensland's

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Speaker 4: We think that a public developer could build over six

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Speaker 4: To rent and to sell the low market prices, so

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Speaker 4: again being absolutely hammered by the current system. We need

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Speaker 4: system things, phasing out negative gearing and the capital games

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Speaker 5: We've also got this really what I think is a.

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Speaker 4: Really brilliant idea, the homekeeper mortgage product, with a regulatory

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Speaker 4: So we're calling for a national Renter's Protection Authority, And

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Speaker 6: You, labor, It's not just a matter of sending money out,

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Speaker 6: but looking at ways where it be, say energy bill relief,

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Speaker 6: Knocking off twenty percent of your hex debt. All of

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Speaker 6: those types of measures. We've had two decades when we

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Speaker 6: and that's really important, and so our five percent deposits

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Speaker 6: part of that to make sure that particularly young people

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Speaker 6: their own mortgage rather than someone else's. But also what

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Speaker 2: That's Katie Gallaher. She's a Labor Senator and also the

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Speaker 2: if none of the traditional parties are blowing your skirt up,

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Speaker 7: To say, you know, when it comes to housing, things

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Speaker 7: Rent is such a huge topic here in Fremantle. The

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Speaker 7: This is the perfect time for the government to step

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Speaker 2: Moving on from kazilibs to domestic violence. Already this year

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Speaker 2: at least twenty women have been killed by men. It's

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Speaker 2: a serious issue and one that both the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: a third of you say action on DV and support

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Speaker 2: for those experiencing it is a top election concern.

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Speaker 6: I see it, as Minister for Women, as one of

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Speaker 6: the biggest barriers to actually delivering gender equality in this country,

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Speaker 6: because if women aren't safe, then it impacts on every

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Speaker 6: other part of their life and so we see addressing

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Speaker 6: an ending violence against women and children as one of

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Speaker 6: our key priorities. It's a big handbrake on women getting

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Speaker 6: a fair cracked opportunity and it filters through every part

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Speaker 6: all of those budget decisions we've taken. And that's why

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Speaker 6: we've tried to invest so much into this area, over

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Speaker 6: eight billion dollars in total in the last three years,

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Speaker 6: and there's much more work to do.

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Speaker 2: That's Labour's plan.

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Speaker 3: What about the Liberals, We've seen a marked uptick in

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Speaker 3: domestic violence, which the police are attributing to cost of

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Speaker 5: So it's a huge issue as you imagine it across Australia.

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Speaker 5: We've committed as.

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Speaker 3: A party to ninety million dollars in funding. We have

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Speaker 5: People decide for.

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Speaker 2: Domestic violence and the Greens.

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Speaker 4: When it's absolutely horrendous that seven women have been killed

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Speaker 8: We really need to look at domestic violence and family

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Speaker 2: Health has taken up a huge talking point this campaign,

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Speaker 4: Really important part of our platform is full dental and

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Speaker 5: So what we're saying is we want to triple the.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Libby. While independent policy is very candidate to candidate,

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Speaker 7: We want to be able to see a doctor for

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Speaker 6: We've recognized, particularly women haven't got a fair deal when

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Speaker 3: We're obviously committed to ensuring that bulk billing is accessible

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Speaker 5: We've heard a lot about.

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Speaker 3: Is there a way of provisioning a fund for women

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Speaker 2: Finally, climate action. It was touched on briefly during one

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Speaker 4: What's totally terrifying is what Dutton is proposing, which is

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Speaker 4: But again, people have been expressing real disappointment to me

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Speaker 4: You know, this crazy kind of nuclear fantasy that they're

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Speaker 2: The Liberals are holding firm on their promises.

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Speaker 2: Well, Labor are sticking to their renewables plan.

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Speaker 6: We leieve in climate change and we want to take

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Speaker 2: Those and independent Kate Hullett says Australia is primed for

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Speaker 7: We are young, and we are mineral rich. We have

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Speaker 2: So was this helpful? At least twenty one percent of

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Speaker 2: you told us you're still yet to make up your

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Speaker 2: to hear from the Prime Minister and Opposition leader again.

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Speaker 2: If that's the case, you're in luck. In our show notes,

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Speaker 2: I've linked our extended conversations with both Anthony Albanesi and

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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton from our No Filter podcast. You can check

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Speaker 2: them out and maybe that'll help move the needle for you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with

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Speaker 2: us today. The Quikie is produced by Me, Taylor Strano,

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Speaker 2: and Claire Murphy, with audio production by Lou Hill