1 00:00:11,464 --> 00:00:16,024 Speaker 1: You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges 2 00:00:16,144 --> 00:00:19,624 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of land and borders that this podcast 3 00:00:19,744 --> 00:00:20,544 Speaker 1: is recorded on. 4 00:00:25,264 --> 00:00:29,064 Speaker 2: From Mama Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop culture. 5 00:00:28,784 --> 00:00:31,344 Speaker 1: Fix, and I'm Laura Brodney. 6 00:00:31,384 --> 00:00:32,064 Speaker 2: Happy Monday. 7 00:00:32,224 --> 00:00:34,744 Speaker 1: Happy Monday to you. I usually don't love a Monday, 8 00:00:34,824 --> 00:00:36,744 Speaker 1: but it's when the new episodes are from come out, 9 00:00:36,784 --> 00:00:39,264 Speaker 1: so I get really excited. Oh that's still going Yes, 10 00:00:39,944 --> 00:00:41,944 Speaker 1: it's only my life. 11 00:00:42,304 --> 00:00:45,184 Speaker 2: Well, on the show today, a lot of new information 12 00:00:45,304 --> 00:00:47,904 Speaker 2: has come out after Liam Payne's death, as well as 13 00:00:47,904 --> 00:00:51,264 Speaker 2: some more statements from his nearest and dearest. We're also 14 00:00:51,304 --> 00:00:54,144 Speaker 2: going to be talking about I think the most popular 15 00:00:54,264 --> 00:00:56,704 Speaker 2: Chicken Shop date interview till this day. 16 00:00:56,864 --> 00:00:57,824 Speaker 1: Oh but is it though? 17 00:00:57,984 --> 00:00:59,504 Speaker 2: I think it is controversial. 18 00:00:59,864 --> 00:01:02,824 Speaker 1: But first, but first, the King and Queen are in 19 00:01:02,864 --> 00:01:06,424 Speaker 1: our fair country for their Australian tour and it's been 20 00:01:06,464 --> 00:01:08,824 Speaker 1: a bit of a bumpy start. And look, a royal 21 00:01:08,904 --> 00:01:12,024 Speaker 1: tour is always a bit of fraught situation in Australia 22 00:01:12,504 --> 00:01:14,864 Speaker 1: because we always, you know, have protesters, we have people 23 00:01:14,864 --> 00:01:16,904 Speaker 1: who think that we shouldn't have a monarchy all this 24 00:01:16,944 --> 00:01:18,424 Speaker 1: back and forth, and we have people who were like 25 00:01:18,504 --> 00:01:21,064 Speaker 1: die hard royalists and get very excited. What did your 26 00:01:21,064 --> 00:01:22,984 Speaker 1: point to me? I was appointing you, but I don't 27 00:01:22,984 --> 00:01:23,984 Speaker 1: know where you stand. 28 00:01:23,984 --> 00:01:25,664 Speaker 2: Look if you don't know this about me, I am 29 00:01:25,704 --> 00:01:26,784 Speaker 2: a royal apologist. 30 00:01:26,904 --> 00:01:28,744 Speaker 1: Oh god, I actually didn't know this about you. 31 00:01:28,904 --> 00:01:31,464 Speaker 2: I think we should be a Republican But I am 32 00:01:31,544 --> 00:01:34,024 Speaker 2: just so taken up with the entire history of the 33 00:01:34,104 --> 00:01:36,424 Speaker 2: Royal family. I find them very, very interesting. So I 34 00:01:36,584 --> 00:01:41,824 Speaker 2: was quite disappointed when I heard that King Charles and 35 00:01:41,904 --> 00:01:45,344 Speaker 2: Queen Camilla were coming here, because no one else cared, 36 00:01:45,424 --> 00:01:46,784 Speaker 2: including our politicians. 37 00:01:47,384 --> 00:01:49,624 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, in the past has always been the same 38 00:01:49,624 --> 00:01:52,704 Speaker 1: conversation about us not being part of the royal families. 39 00:01:52,864 --> 00:01:55,664 Speaker 1: Out of circle, way out of circle. But people were 40 00:01:55,784 --> 00:01:57,624 Speaker 1: very caught up with Megan and Harry when they were here, 41 00:01:57,704 --> 00:01:59,544 Speaker 1: especially because you know, they were still newly married and 42 00:01:59,544 --> 00:02:01,704 Speaker 1: there was a lot of excitement. And I remember when 43 00:02:01,864 --> 00:02:04,744 Speaker 1: Kate William were here, like the excitement around that, especially 44 00:02:04,744 --> 00:02:07,064 Speaker 1: because George was so little and people were obsessed with him. 45 00:02:07,064 --> 00:02:09,184 Speaker 1: So even people who weren't fans of the royal family 46 00:02:09,704 --> 00:02:12,624 Speaker 1: were invested in the new cycle and like where they 47 00:02:12,664 --> 00:02:15,664 Speaker 1: were going. But this time around, there's been a few 48 00:02:15,664 --> 00:02:17,904 Speaker 1: little bumps in the roads. As you mentioned, some people 49 00:02:17,944 --> 00:02:18,584 Speaker 1: were no show. 50 00:02:18,984 --> 00:02:21,824 Speaker 2: So when they came to Canberra, which was meant to 51 00:02:21,864 --> 00:02:24,544 Speaker 2: be their big like welcome to Australia kind of event, 52 00:02:25,424 --> 00:02:29,504 Speaker 2: none of US state premiers could make it. So do 53 00:02:29,544 --> 00:02:30,624 Speaker 2: you want to read out the excuse? 54 00:02:30,744 --> 00:02:33,384 Speaker 1: For sure? So apologies did they send? 55 00:02:33,584 --> 00:02:36,424 Speaker 2: Victorian premier just sent to Alan said that she was 56 00:02:36,464 --> 00:02:37,864 Speaker 2: in a cabinet meeting that day. 57 00:02:38,024 --> 00:02:38,704 Speaker 1: That seems fair. 58 00:02:38,824 --> 00:02:41,784 Speaker 2: New South Wales Premier Chris Minn says that he's also 59 00:02:41,824 --> 00:02:43,024 Speaker 2: in a cabinet meeting that day. 60 00:02:43,104 --> 00:02:45,424 Speaker 1: Well that's a bad look because they were in Sydney right. 61 00:02:46,784 --> 00:02:49,944 Speaker 2: South Australian Premier Peter Malanarkis said that he had a 62 00:02:50,024 --> 00:02:54,344 Speaker 2: regional cabinet meeting that day. So he's the same putting 63 00:02:54,344 --> 00:02:56,104 Speaker 2: on like a like I really can't cut my hand. 64 00:02:56,424 --> 00:02:57,064 Speaker 1: I'm out of town. 65 00:02:57,504 --> 00:03:00,864 Speaker 2: Queensland Premier Stephen Miles says he's too busy with campaigning 66 00:03:00,904 --> 00:03:04,864 Speaker 2: for the reelection. Tasmanian Premier Jeremy Rockcliffe is on a 67 00:03:04,984 --> 00:03:07,464 Speaker 2: US trade mission, so the most proper excuse. 68 00:03:07,144 --> 00:03:09,304 Speaker 1: He's actually working out of that country. 69 00:03:09,784 --> 00:03:12,464 Speaker 2: And West in Australia's Premier Roger Cook said that he 70 00:03:12,584 --> 00:03:13,824 Speaker 2: had other commitments. 71 00:03:14,184 --> 00:03:16,104 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a long slide. You're looking at a 72 00:03:16,144 --> 00:03:17,504 Speaker 1: five hour flight at that stage. 73 00:03:17,624 --> 00:03:20,224 Speaker 2: Game he's got other commitments. So the good thing about 74 00:03:20,264 --> 00:03:22,584 Speaker 2: his excuse is that if you ask him, he's like, 75 00:03:22,864 --> 00:03:25,624 Speaker 2: he's got a general excuse. He's like, I can't other commitments. 76 00:03:25,664 --> 00:03:27,624 Speaker 2: Where's with the cabinet meetings? That could be moved. So 77 00:03:27,664 --> 00:03:29,104 Speaker 2: if it moves and they could have gone. 78 00:03:29,144 --> 00:03:31,384 Speaker 1: I think they were noticing that the people aren't that 79 00:03:31,464 --> 00:03:34,264 Speaker 1: into their visit because they went to Saint Thomas's Anglican 80 00:03:34,344 --> 00:03:37,264 Speaker 1: Church for a church service in the last couple of days. 81 00:03:37,304 --> 00:03:39,704 Speaker 1: It's in North Sydney, and look, there were a lot 82 00:03:39,744 --> 00:03:40,104 Speaker 1: of people. 83 00:03:40,104 --> 00:03:40,984 Speaker 2: We don't go over the bridge. 84 00:03:41,864 --> 00:03:44,144 Speaker 1: Better they need to come to my little Sydney bubble, 85 00:03:44,184 --> 00:03:46,704 Speaker 1: which is the ten minute walk between the Mameir office 86 00:03:46,744 --> 00:03:48,584 Speaker 1: and my apartment. Apart from that, I don't know anything. 87 00:03:48,584 --> 00:03:50,424 Speaker 2: I have a rule with my friends because we all 88 00:03:50,464 --> 00:03:52,144 Speaker 2: live on this side of the bridge. I'm so sorry 89 00:03:52,184 --> 00:03:53,904 Speaker 2: if you live on the north side of the bridge. 90 00:03:53,584 --> 00:03:54,784 Speaker 1: But I don't know you. If you don't, you have 91 00:03:54,824 --> 00:03:55,504 Speaker 1: this rule. 92 00:03:55,304 --> 00:03:57,504 Speaker 2: That's saying if the friendship is good enough, that means 93 00:03:57,544 --> 00:04:00,144 Speaker 2: the Mossman friends, which means you're willing to travel to 94 00:04:00,184 --> 00:04:01,344 Speaker 2: Mossman to go see that. 95 00:04:01,384 --> 00:04:03,024 Speaker 1: I haven't met anyone I like that much yet, but 96 00:04:03,024 --> 00:04:06,304 Speaker 1: I look for everyone I know lives just around the 97 00:04:06,344 --> 00:04:08,424 Speaker 1: corner from me. There were a lot of fans there. 98 00:04:08,424 --> 00:04:11,264 Speaker 1: There were also a lot of protesters who showed up 99 00:04:11,304 --> 00:04:14,024 Speaker 1: to protest their visit. I just don't know if King 100 00:04:14,144 --> 00:04:17,064 Speaker 1: Charles is maybe feeling the pressure a little bit, because 101 00:04:17,264 --> 00:04:20,424 Speaker 1: he went to his first sort of big official gathering, 102 00:04:20,424 --> 00:04:23,184 Speaker 1: which was a luncheon held in his honor, and I 103 00:04:23,224 --> 00:04:25,824 Speaker 1: think the premiere this New Sother Wales premiere was present 104 00:04:25,864 --> 00:04:28,064 Speaker 1: for this one, and it was this big, fancy luncheon 105 00:04:28,464 --> 00:04:30,784 Speaker 1: and he was gone before the first course. He only 106 00:04:30,784 --> 00:04:33,104 Speaker 1: stayed for ten minutes, so he got off. He got 107 00:04:33,184 --> 00:04:35,944 Speaker 1: up on stage. They gave him an hourglass as a present, 108 00:04:36,344 --> 00:04:39,464 Speaker 1: and he said something about the sands of time would 109 00:04:39,544 --> 00:04:42,264 Speaker 1: encourage brevity, and then ten minutes later he was out 110 00:04:42,304 --> 00:04:43,704 Speaker 1: that door. And he's not going to be seen in 111 00:04:43,704 --> 00:04:46,624 Speaker 1: public thums over the weekend until today, and I think 112 00:04:46,664 --> 00:04:49,304 Speaker 1: tomorrow is on Tuesday, and Sydney is when everyone has 113 00:04:49,344 --> 00:04:53,344 Speaker 1: been invited. Slash urged very strongly to go down to 114 00:04:53,344 --> 00:04:55,944 Speaker 1: the Opera House fore Court for like a big you 115 00:04:55,944 --> 00:04:56,504 Speaker 1: know kind. 116 00:04:56,344 --> 00:04:59,144 Speaker 2: Of I want to go. Okay, Larry, Okay. 117 00:04:58,904 --> 00:05:00,264 Speaker 1: I want you to go. Can you please go? And 118 00:05:00,304 --> 00:05:00,824 Speaker 1: report back that. 119 00:05:01,944 --> 00:05:03,824 Speaker 2: So he's going through cans and has been reported that 120 00:05:03,864 --> 00:05:07,224 Speaker 2: he had to pause his cancer treatment to come to Australia. 121 00:05:06,704 --> 00:05:07,424 Speaker 1: Which is extreme. 122 00:05:07,544 --> 00:05:10,144 Speaker 2: I also saw that like the here for eleven days 123 00:05:10,144 --> 00:05:14,224 Speaker 2: with only one day of downtime, with ten engagements per day, 124 00:05:14,344 --> 00:05:17,064 Speaker 2: that's so much. That's a lot we can barely do too. 125 00:05:17,544 --> 00:05:19,344 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be doing that. And look, I actually 126 00:05:19,344 --> 00:05:20,824 Speaker 1: think I mean, we won't know till tomorrow, but I 127 00:05:20,824 --> 00:05:23,984 Speaker 1: actually think quite a few people will show up. It's 128 00:05:23,984 --> 00:05:25,664 Speaker 1: more just the language and I'm gonna make you come 129 00:05:25,664 --> 00:05:27,584 Speaker 1: with me. I'm definitely not going standing in the sun 130 00:05:27,624 --> 00:05:29,944 Speaker 1: for that. But I just think it's the language saying 131 00:05:29,944 --> 00:05:34,184 Speaker 1: like we urge everyone to come down because previously they'll 132 00:05:34,224 --> 00:05:36,224 Speaker 1: be because with Megan and Harry, they were sort of 133 00:05:36,224 --> 00:05:38,224 Speaker 1: saying like, you know, please be mindful of like clogging 134 00:05:38,224 --> 00:05:40,224 Speaker 1: the streets and all that sort of stuff, and so 135 00:05:40,304 --> 00:05:42,344 Speaker 1: this time I kind of hope people do. I'm sure 136 00:05:42,344 --> 00:05:43,744 Speaker 1: they'll just be pulling people like. 137 00:05:43,784 --> 00:05:46,024 Speaker 2: Please be mindful of clogging the streets. Also, we wouldn't 138 00:05:46,024 --> 00:05:48,304 Speaker 2: mind if you do this time around, we will be 139 00:05:48,384 --> 00:05:51,704 Speaker 2: posting some of the coverage of their arrival in Sydney 140 00:05:51,904 --> 00:05:56,144 Speaker 2: on the Spill Instagram. Please follow us at the Spill podcast. 141 00:05:56,984 --> 00:05:59,424 Speaker 1: So on Thursday, we reported on the very sudden and 142 00:05:59,744 --> 00:06:02,304 Speaker 1: very sad death of Liam Payne, a former Run Direction 143 00:06:02,704 --> 00:06:06,504 Speaker 1: musician turned solo musician, and the headlines and the media 144 00:06:06,544 --> 00:06:08,824 Speaker 1: coverage and just you know, the fan chat have been 145 00:06:08,984 --> 00:06:12,024 Speaker 1: very intense over the days that followed. Since then, the 146 00:06:12,064 --> 00:06:14,824 Speaker 1: band members have all posted their own statements with you know, 147 00:06:14,944 --> 00:06:18,024 Speaker 1: really sad messages to Liam. Simon Cowe. Did you see 148 00:06:18,064 --> 00:06:22,264 Speaker 1: he's posted a very statement who obviously the teammates, Yeah, 149 00:06:22,304 --> 00:06:25,144 Speaker 1: that one Direction. Yeah, he put out a statement that 150 00:06:25,224 --> 00:06:27,624 Speaker 1: was almost like to Liam, like, remember the last time 151 00:06:27,624 --> 00:06:30,024 Speaker 1: you came to my house and we sat together and 152 00:06:30,064 --> 00:06:32,144 Speaker 1: just like remembered the big times that we got, the 153 00:06:32,144 --> 00:06:34,384 Speaker 1: good times we had together. I just know your son 154 00:06:34,424 --> 00:06:36,184 Speaker 1: will be so proud of you. I'm so sorry this 155 00:06:36,224 --> 00:06:40,024 Speaker 1: has happened. And he's also reportedly stopped the X Factor 156 00:06:40,064 --> 00:06:43,144 Speaker 1: auditions like pause them for the moment. In the UK, 157 00:06:43,464 --> 00:06:46,864 Speaker 1: in light of what's happened, Liam's family put out statements 158 00:06:46,944 --> 00:06:50,024 Speaker 1: his sister and his parents which was just absolutely devastating 159 00:06:50,064 --> 00:06:53,664 Speaker 1: to read. But one in particular that really kind of was, 160 00:06:53,704 --> 00:06:56,744 Speaker 1: I think very poignant and worth discussion is the statement 161 00:06:56,784 --> 00:06:58,864 Speaker 1: that was put out by Cheryl cole So. As we 162 00:06:58,864 --> 00:07:01,704 Speaker 1: were saying in last week's episode, Cheryl and Liam met 163 00:07:01,744 --> 00:07:04,784 Speaker 1: on The X Factor were together for a few years 164 00:07:04,824 --> 00:07:07,144 Speaker 1: and they share a son who is named Bear and 165 00:07:07,264 --> 00:07:09,904 Speaker 1: is now seven years old. And Cheryl put out this 166 00:07:09,904 --> 00:07:12,584 Speaker 1: state her Instagram account. She said, as I try to 167 00:07:12,664 --> 00:07:15,744 Speaker 1: navigate this earth shattering event and work through my own 168 00:07:15,784 --> 00:07:19,544 Speaker 1: grief at this indescribably painful time, I'd like to kindly 169 00:07:19,584 --> 00:07:22,424 Speaker 1: remind everyone that we have lost to human being. Leem 170 00:07:22,544 --> 00:07:24,504 Speaker 1: was only a pop star and a celebrity. He was 171 00:07:24,544 --> 00:07:26,664 Speaker 1: a son, a brother, an uncle, a dear friend, and 172 00:07:26,704 --> 00:07:28,904 Speaker 1: a father to our seven year old son, a son 173 00:07:28,944 --> 00:07:31,064 Speaker 1: that now has to face the reality of never seeing 174 00:07:31,104 --> 00:07:33,584 Speaker 1: his father again. And she wanted to say that what 175 00:07:33,704 --> 00:07:35,824 Speaker 1: is troubling her the most is that she knows that 176 00:07:35,944 --> 00:07:38,504 Speaker 1: one day Bear will have access. She calls him a 177 00:07:38,544 --> 00:07:41,864 Speaker 1: borran reports and media exploitation that they've seen over the 178 00:07:41,944 --> 00:07:45,064 Speaker 1: last two days, and that's what she's trying to protect 179 00:07:45,144 --> 00:07:47,504 Speaker 1: him from. And she ended the statement by saying, I 180 00:07:47,504 --> 00:07:49,824 Speaker 1: am begging you to consider what the use of some 181 00:07:49,864 --> 00:07:52,384 Speaker 1: of these reports are serving, other to cause further harm 182 00:07:52,424 --> 00:07:55,584 Speaker 1: to everyone left behind. Picking up the pieces before you 183 00:07:55,664 --> 00:07:57,864 Speaker 1: leave a comment or make videos, ask yourself if you 184 00:07:57,864 --> 00:07:59,824 Speaker 1: would like your own child or family to read them. 185 00:08:00,264 --> 00:08:02,664 Speaker 1: Please give Liam the little dignity that he has left 186 00:08:02,704 --> 00:08:04,544 Speaker 1: in the wake of his death to rest in peace 187 00:08:04,624 --> 00:08:05,624 Speaker 1: at last. 188 00:08:06,144 --> 00:08:08,824 Speaker 2: I feel like we talked about this last week as well, 189 00:08:08,864 --> 00:08:12,784 Speaker 2: like about Bear, his son growing up and having to 190 00:08:12,824 --> 00:08:17,144 Speaker 2: see how this death has been reported. But we also 191 00:08:17,184 --> 00:08:19,944 Speaker 2: talked about at the same time that there are a 192 00:08:19,984 --> 00:08:23,104 Speaker 2: lot of other people in this situation who are hurting, 193 00:08:23,184 --> 00:08:28,104 Speaker 2: like his ex fiance, in different ways, and it's hard, 194 00:08:28,424 --> 00:08:32,304 Speaker 2: especially when someone dies. But similar to what we said 195 00:08:32,344 --> 00:08:34,624 Speaker 2: last week, like two things can be true, Oh. 196 00:08:34,584 --> 00:08:36,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And obviously when I wrote those words, I 197 00:08:36,864 --> 00:08:39,184 Speaker 1: thought about it a lot, because obviously we did a 198 00:08:39,224 --> 00:08:41,424 Speaker 1: whole podcast episode on it, and we put out a 199 00:08:41,504 --> 00:08:44,304 Speaker 1: video that wasn't like reveling in any of the details 200 00:08:44,384 --> 00:08:46,304 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but was sort of focused on 201 00:08:46,384 --> 00:08:48,704 Speaker 1: this other young woman whose name has been pulled into this, 202 00:08:48,784 --> 00:08:51,784 Speaker 1: which is my Henry, which is Liam Payne's ex because 203 00:08:51,824 --> 00:08:54,144 Speaker 1: there were reports and she's come out and said that 204 00:08:54,184 --> 00:08:56,464 Speaker 1: she had sent a cease and to sister to him 205 00:08:56,504 --> 00:08:58,904 Speaker 1: about constant contact, and there was more information that was 206 00:08:58,944 --> 00:09:01,144 Speaker 1: going to come out. But I think in a way 207 00:09:01,304 --> 00:09:05,384 Speaker 1: like that is a separate conversation because that conversation is 208 00:09:05,384 --> 00:09:08,664 Speaker 1: in reaction to this young woman and people who were saying, like, 209 00:09:08,704 --> 00:09:10,904 Speaker 1: I haven't seen her attacked. It's like just because you 210 00:09:10,944 --> 00:09:12,904 Speaker 1: haven't seen it, Like you can go to her Instagram account, 211 00:09:12,944 --> 00:09:15,024 Speaker 1: or you can go to like comments underneath, or you 212 00:09:15,064 --> 00:09:17,064 Speaker 1: can just log onto your TikTok account and like if 213 00:09:17,104 --> 00:09:19,544 Speaker 1: the argorima will serve you up all the horrible videos 214 00:09:19,544 --> 00:09:21,304 Speaker 1: that people have made about her, it's there. So I 215 00:09:21,344 --> 00:09:24,944 Speaker 1: think that's like a justified conversation because it's in reaction 216 00:09:25,024 --> 00:09:27,464 Speaker 1: to a woman being attacked. But what I would say 217 00:09:27,584 --> 00:09:29,344 Speaker 1: Cheryl's referring to, and I think what a lot of 218 00:09:29,344 --> 00:09:33,224 Speaker 1: people are referring to, is just some of the details 219 00:09:33,344 --> 00:09:36,664 Speaker 1: around his final moments that were shared that don't give 220 00:09:36,704 --> 00:09:39,784 Speaker 1: any sort of context to protecting other people or anything 221 00:09:39,824 --> 00:09:41,224 Speaker 1: like that. Like there are some things that are just 222 00:09:41,344 --> 00:09:44,344 Speaker 1: in the news cycle because they're giving context to what 223 00:09:44,424 --> 00:09:47,064 Speaker 1: the pain other people are going through. But things like 224 00:09:47,224 --> 00:09:50,224 Speaker 1: sharing photos of his body, which TMZ did. They did 225 00:09:50,304 --> 00:09:51,784 Speaker 1: take them down, But those photos are out. What do 226 00:09:51,904 --> 00:09:52,704 Speaker 1: you talk ab out there? 227 00:09:52,744 --> 00:09:55,504 Speaker 2: Like Twitter is a cesspit, Like oh yeah, I've seen 228 00:09:55,504 --> 00:09:57,144 Speaker 2: those photos multiple times and. 229 00:09:57,144 --> 00:09:59,824 Speaker 1: Sort of getting reports from people of like also just 230 00:09:59,824 --> 00:10:02,264 Speaker 1: like things that we just don't know if they factually 231 00:10:02,304 --> 00:10:05,704 Speaker 1: happen in terms of like how he was behaving moments beforehand, 232 00:10:05,744 --> 00:10:08,344 Speaker 1: the really voyeuristic thing of people trying to sort of 233 00:10:08,384 --> 00:10:12,144 Speaker 1: sensationalize what may have happened. Even the nine one one call. 234 00:10:12,224 --> 00:10:14,024 Speaker 1: I always find a bit strange about that. I don't 235 00:10:14,024 --> 00:10:16,384 Speaker 1: even know the nine on one. Actually, I do believe 236 00:10:16,424 --> 00:10:18,464 Speaker 1: two phone calls were shared, because there was one from 237 00:10:18,464 --> 00:10:20,624 Speaker 1: the hotel allegedly. I didn't listen to them. I've got 238 00:10:20,664 --> 00:10:22,424 Speaker 1: to say, like even for work, I was like I 239 00:10:22,544 --> 00:10:25,544 Speaker 1: just I just feel like that's information we don't need. 240 00:10:25,664 --> 00:10:28,384 Speaker 1: That's not protecting anyone, that's not sort of giving clarity 241 00:10:28,424 --> 00:10:31,224 Speaker 1: to a situation. It's just people wanting to like hear 242 00:10:31,264 --> 00:10:34,024 Speaker 1: the moment where the people from the hotel called and 243 00:10:34,064 --> 00:10:37,384 Speaker 1: like allegedly they said that he was being really difficult, 244 00:10:37,384 --> 00:10:41,184 Speaker 1: and then allegedly the next call was about him falling 245 00:10:41,184 --> 00:10:43,744 Speaker 1: from the balcony or whatever happened in that moment, we 246 00:10:43,784 --> 00:10:46,024 Speaker 1: don't have that information. And I think the fact that 247 00:10:46,024 --> 00:10:48,584 Speaker 1: that's been turned into like a TikTok sound or oh 248 00:10:48,624 --> 00:10:51,144 Speaker 1: my god, ah yeah, like it's been playing across different platforms, 249 00:10:51,264 --> 00:10:53,104 Speaker 1: or that people like you can just be scrolling through 250 00:10:53,144 --> 00:10:55,104 Speaker 1: Instagram and the video will pop up. Like I think 251 00:10:55,144 --> 00:10:58,024 Speaker 1: that that's almost taking it's turning the moment if his 252 00:10:58,144 --> 00:11:01,864 Speaker 1: death into this very voyeuristic thing. And that's what I'm thinking. 253 00:11:01,944 --> 00:11:04,064 Speaker 1: Cheryl's probably thinking, well, there's no way I can protect 254 00:11:04,144 --> 00:11:05,824 Speaker 1: my son from like this is on the internet now. 255 00:11:05,944 --> 00:11:07,984 Speaker 1: You can't like you can't put the genie back on 256 00:11:07,984 --> 00:11:08,904 Speaker 1: the bottle once it's out. 257 00:11:09,584 --> 00:11:12,784 Speaker 2: It's just like shows tragic deaths like this in the 258 00:11:12,824 --> 00:11:15,384 Speaker 2: celebrity world, like the same thing happened with Matthew Perry. 259 00:11:15,544 --> 00:11:19,464 Speaker 2: It's like it can't ever be contained. Like everyone so 260 00:11:19,624 --> 00:11:22,744 Speaker 2: chronically online now, like the access to everything we have 261 00:11:23,024 --> 00:11:27,584 Speaker 2: nine or nine calls, like prescriptions, like receipts. Everything is 262 00:11:27,624 --> 00:11:31,144 Speaker 2: online and you can't hide that, and it is so 263 00:11:31,224 --> 00:11:34,024 Speaker 2: shitty for the family who are mourning this exactly. 264 00:11:34,064 --> 00:11:36,184 Speaker 1: And obviously photos of like the body and stuff like 265 00:11:36,304 --> 00:11:38,944 Speaker 1: those photos usually get taken for like the legal case 266 00:11:39,024 --> 00:11:40,984 Speaker 1: or the medical records, but the fact that they've been 267 00:11:41,024 --> 00:11:44,064 Speaker 1: made public, I think is a very disturbing thing. I 268 00:11:44,104 --> 00:11:45,824 Speaker 1: know that people were very angry about it, and TMZ 269 00:11:45,984 --> 00:11:48,504 Speaker 1: took them down, which they never do. They never take 270 00:11:48,544 --> 00:11:50,144 Speaker 1: anything down, so the fact that they did is a 271 00:11:50,184 --> 00:11:52,744 Speaker 1: huge thing. But it really made me think of things 272 00:11:52,784 --> 00:11:55,424 Speaker 1: that Prince William and Prince Harry have said about the 273 00:11:55,464 --> 00:11:58,024 Speaker 1: photos that came out of Princess Diana's body on the 274 00:11:58,104 --> 00:12:01,064 Speaker 1: road after she died. And I remember, I think, like 275 00:12:01,064 --> 00:12:03,464 Speaker 1: Harry wrote about in his book, where they saw photos 276 00:12:03,504 --> 00:12:05,744 Speaker 1: later on and he was like, you were so close, 277 00:12:05,824 --> 00:12:07,704 Speaker 1: Like your first thought was like, these aren't like the 278 00:12:07,744 --> 00:12:10,264 Speaker 1: police photographers of the medical photographers. These were the paper 279 00:12:11,144 --> 00:12:12,984 Speaker 1: that were chasing them. And he's like, do you didn't 280 00:12:12,984 --> 00:12:14,904 Speaker 1: even know if she was dead yet, you're just taking 281 00:12:14,904 --> 00:12:17,504 Speaker 1: her photo? And now those photos are everywhere and they've 282 00:12:17,544 --> 00:12:18,984 Speaker 1: like her sons have seen them. 283 00:12:19,544 --> 00:12:21,064 Speaker 2: It's absolutely awful. 284 00:12:21,144 --> 00:12:22,784 Speaker 1: And I don't, obviously dont want to get too moralistic 285 00:12:22,824 --> 00:12:25,624 Speaker 1: because we've talked about it on a podcast, but I 286 00:12:25,664 --> 00:12:28,944 Speaker 1: think there's that idea of like just kind of looking 287 00:12:29,024 --> 00:12:32,184 Speaker 1: through the content you're putting out, the content you're consuming, 288 00:12:32,224 --> 00:12:34,784 Speaker 1: and feeling like what you're okay to live with in 289 00:12:34,824 --> 00:12:37,224 Speaker 1: a sense, but I think like as like this online 290 00:12:37,304 --> 00:12:39,904 Speaker 1: world that we live in gets so much bigger every 291 00:12:39,944 --> 00:12:43,584 Speaker 1: time this kind of public suffering or a public tragedy happens, 292 00:12:43,584 --> 00:12:45,264 Speaker 1: like it is going to unfold like this, And I 293 00:12:45,344 --> 00:12:48,144 Speaker 1: think it's just kind of thinking about what safeguards you 294 00:12:48,184 --> 00:12:49,624 Speaker 1: can put in there. But I think also when it 295 00:12:49,624 --> 00:12:51,624 Speaker 1: comes to sharing photos like that, like they're just isn't 296 00:12:51,624 --> 00:12:53,944 Speaker 1: a safeguard And the other thing. Again, I don't want 297 00:12:53,944 --> 00:12:56,144 Speaker 1: to sound like I'm just judging people for the sake 298 00:12:56,184 --> 00:12:58,864 Speaker 1: of it, but I do think this idea of like 299 00:12:58,984 --> 00:13:01,504 Speaker 1: feeding the algorithm and feeding you know, clicks and that 300 00:13:01,544 --> 00:13:04,024 Speaker 1: sort of stuff we saw take a really awful turn 301 00:13:04,064 --> 00:13:06,464 Speaker 1: this weekend because again I was trying not to look 302 00:13:06,464 --> 00:13:08,584 Speaker 1: at this, but my entire TikTok feed and so many 303 00:13:08,624 --> 00:13:10,264 Speaker 1: of my friends, like when we're out of the weekend 304 00:13:10,464 --> 00:13:12,144 Speaker 1: like saying, oh my god, I can't even look at 305 00:13:12,184 --> 00:13:14,504 Speaker 1: my phone right now, because my feed was just filled 306 00:13:14,544 --> 00:13:17,704 Speaker 1: with people who were filming their reaction to his death 307 00:13:17,864 --> 00:13:21,064 Speaker 1: or filming their friend's reaction. And I just think not 308 00:13:21,104 --> 00:13:23,304 Speaker 1: in a way of like sort of paying tribute or 309 00:13:23,344 --> 00:13:26,144 Speaker 1: anything like that, or just kind of using that moment 310 00:13:26,184 --> 00:13:27,984 Speaker 1: as content and they're so. 311 00:13:28,064 --> 00:13:30,624 Speaker 2: Weird, right, I've seen the same, and like the videos 312 00:13:30,624 --> 00:13:32,904 Speaker 2: that I've seen have gotten like millions of views. They 313 00:13:32,984 --> 00:13:35,144 Speaker 2: how about like what you're saying, like, and it's always 314 00:13:35,264 --> 00:13:37,744 Speaker 2: young people, Like it's always a young girls filming their friends, 315 00:13:37,744 --> 00:13:40,384 Speaker 2: like watching the news and stuff of like hearing about 316 00:13:40,384 --> 00:13:42,944 Speaker 2: his debt for the first time, and those get a 317 00:13:42,944 --> 00:13:46,624 Speaker 2: million views and no one is actually calling out how 318 00:13:46,784 --> 00:13:49,264 Speaker 2: messed up it really is. All the comments are just 319 00:13:49,304 --> 00:13:52,344 Speaker 2: like I know, rip, I know, so sad, like, oh 320 00:13:52,424 --> 00:13:55,544 Speaker 2: my god, what like a moment. I'm like, this is 321 00:13:55,584 --> 00:13:57,184 Speaker 2: actually insane, it. 322 00:13:57,104 --> 00:13:58,824 Speaker 1: Really is, And I just think it's setting kind of 323 00:13:58,864 --> 00:14:01,224 Speaker 1: like a dangerous path of where this sort of stuff 324 00:14:01,264 --> 00:14:03,584 Speaker 1: goes next. And I know, especially people who like really 325 00:14:03,584 --> 00:14:05,864 Speaker 1: live on TikTok, and especially like a lot of younger people, 326 00:14:05,904 --> 00:14:07,584 Speaker 1: like they just are filming each other all the time, 327 00:14:07,704 --> 00:14:09,984 Speaker 1: or they are always like having a camera on that 328 00:14:10,024 --> 00:14:12,584 Speaker 1: sort of so a lot of these moments like weren't 329 00:14:12,624 --> 00:14:14,944 Speaker 1: even intentional of I mean, if you can believe what 330 00:14:14,984 --> 00:14:17,624 Speaker 1: the video are, but like they just they're filming something 331 00:14:17,624 --> 00:14:19,944 Speaker 1: else and they hear the news, so they catch this 332 00:14:20,024 --> 00:14:23,104 Speaker 1: intense reaction and obviously people react to things differently, like 333 00:14:23,144 --> 00:14:25,744 Speaker 1: some people started crying, some people are screaming, some people 334 00:14:25,864 --> 00:14:27,864 Speaker 1: like almost laughing and being like no, no, you're kidding, 335 00:14:27,864 --> 00:14:30,064 Speaker 1: you're kidding, You're kidding. But the choice to post that, 336 00:14:30,144 --> 00:14:32,584 Speaker 1: I think is quite really like a it's a strong 337 00:14:32,664 --> 00:14:34,944 Speaker 1: choice to make to sort of post something like that. 338 00:14:35,104 --> 00:14:36,144 Speaker 1: But I guess at the end of the day, if 339 00:14:36,144 --> 00:14:39,024 Speaker 1: you get the clicks and you get the following, that's 340 00:14:39,344 --> 00:14:41,304 Speaker 1: what is going to be the currency. But yeah, I 341 00:14:41,304 --> 00:14:42,784 Speaker 1: just think it's sort of it's leading us down a 342 00:14:42,824 --> 00:14:44,784 Speaker 1: very dangerous path, Nana. 343 00:14:46,264 --> 00:14:50,064 Speaker 2: Over the weekend, a little video was posted to YouTube 344 00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:53,504 Speaker 2: that went absolutely viral, and I wasn't a surprised because 345 00:14:53,544 --> 00:14:57,504 Speaker 2: we were expecting it. So Amelia de Moldenberg, who's the host 346 00:14:57,704 --> 00:15:00,344 Speaker 2: of Date, I would call it a dating talk show. 347 00:15:00,984 --> 00:15:02,544 Speaker 1: Yeah, like a like a little YouTube like. 348 00:15:02,464 --> 00:15:06,504 Speaker 2: A little YouTube dating series. She interviews these celebrities, she 349 00:15:06,544 --> 00:15:08,864 Speaker 2: takes them out on a date at a chicken shop. 350 00:15:09,304 --> 00:15:12,544 Speaker 2: These videos are used like five to seven minutes long, 351 00:15:12,784 --> 00:15:15,344 Speaker 2: and she gains like millions of views upon each one. 352 00:15:15,464 --> 00:15:18,424 Speaker 2: She recently did Sabrina Carpenter. Just before that, she did 353 00:15:18,424 --> 00:15:21,784 Speaker 2: Poor Mescalol. So she's got like a listers basically, and 354 00:15:21,824 --> 00:15:24,464 Speaker 2: we have talked about her in the past. Over the weekend, 355 00:15:24,544 --> 00:15:26,904 Speaker 2: she interviewed Andrew Garfield. 356 00:15:27,184 --> 00:15:28,584 Speaker 1: Why are you blushing right now? 357 00:15:28,784 --> 00:15:33,584 Speaker 2: I can't if I should have filmed myself watching this interview. Yeah, 358 00:15:33,584 --> 00:15:34,864 Speaker 2: I was smiling like. 359 00:15:34,904 --> 00:15:36,904 Speaker 1: This, You're smiling creepy. Now. I feel like I'm going 360 00:15:36,984 --> 00:15:38,584 Speaker 1: to date with you right now, not me personally, Like 361 00:15:38,664 --> 00:15:40,384 Speaker 1: I'm watching you on a date. Do you want to 362 00:15:40,384 --> 00:15:41,544 Speaker 1: be left alone with your notes? 363 00:15:41,784 --> 00:15:45,104 Speaker 2: I don't know what came over me, but watching this 364 00:15:45,264 --> 00:15:48,704 Speaker 2: date made me feel like I had a viseral reaction 365 00:15:49,584 --> 00:15:53,384 Speaker 2: of just I want. I've never wanted two people to 366 00:15:53,704 --> 00:15:58,304 Speaker 2: literally have sex before my eyes in my entire life. 367 00:15:58,824 --> 00:16:00,384 Speaker 1: Like I wanted. 368 00:16:00,544 --> 00:16:03,704 Speaker 2: I wanted the jump across the table and just go 369 00:16:03,864 --> 00:16:08,224 Speaker 2: at it. Yeah, like the chemistry between these two was anyway. Anyway, 370 00:16:08,224 --> 00:16:09,984 Speaker 2: I'm gettinghead of myself. I'm getting a head of yourself. 371 00:16:10,544 --> 00:16:13,824 Speaker 2: So the reason why this was like a hugely anticipated 372 00:16:14,024 --> 00:16:17,944 Speaker 2: interview was because Andrew Garfield and Amelia de Moldeberg have 373 00:16:18,024 --> 00:16:20,424 Speaker 2: had a few run ins in the past. So besides 374 00:16:20,424 --> 00:16:23,104 Speaker 2: the chicken shop date, Amelia is also known for hosting 375 00:16:23,144 --> 00:16:26,584 Speaker 2: like Big Celebrity red Carpet. She's hosted Vogue. She's hosted 376 00:16:26,584 --> 00:16:29,784 Speaker 2: Golden Globes. In twenty twenty two, she hosted the GQ 377 00:16:30,104 --> 00:16:32,304 Speaker 2: Red Carpet, which is I guess the first time we 378 00:16:32,344 --> 00:16:36,584 Speaker 2: publicly saw them meet. They were like very awkward, but 379 00:16:36,704 --> 00:16:39,384 Speaker 2: like flirtatious. She was like, I've been trying to get 380 00:16:39,384 --> 00:16:41,304 Speaker 2: you for a date. He was like, but you've got 381 00:16:41,304 --> 00:16:42,584 Speaker 2: on a lot of dates, and I don't think that 382 00:16:42,584 --> 00:16:45,224 Speaker 2: makes me feel special. It was so cute, and it 383 00:16:45,304 --> 00:16:47,544 Speaker 2: was like kind of like bantery. He didn't talk about 384 00:16:47,624 --> 00:16:50,024 Speaker 2: any of his movies that he was doing. They then 385 00:16:50,384 --> 00:16:54,144 Speaker 2: met up later next year publicly on the Golden Globes 386 00:16:54,224 --> 00:16:57,064 Speaker 2: Red carpets, saying kind of thing. They were like, we 387 00:16:57,144 --> 00:16:59,624 Speaker 2: have to stop meeting this way. They were very very giggly. 388 00:16:59,944 --> 00:17:02,264 Speaker 2: He was like, okay, I'm kind of into this, like 389 00:17:02,304 --> 00:17:05,384 Speaker 2: I'm feeling it. They were very viby. They talked about 390 00:17:05,384 --> 00:17:09,104 Speaker 2: like their sun moon signs, everything. It was very cute, 391 00:17:09,304 --> 00:17:13,424 Speaker 2: and then she started homoing straight after his breakup. 392 00:17:13,064 --> 00:17:17,024 Speaker 3: With the Witch, it's doctor katec k. You know she's 393 00:17:17,064 --> 00:17:19,504 Speaker 3: gonna the professional witch. Oh god, as long as it's 394 00:17:19,544 --> 00:17:23,384 Speaker 3: not a curse, I'm fine. Amelia started promoting that Andrew 395 00:17:23,424 --> 00:17:25,584 Speaker 3: Garfield has gone in a chicken shop date with her 396 00:17:25,744 --> 00:17:29,584 Speaker 3: and the internet went wild. This was like the sort 397 00:17:29,624 --> 00:17:32,584 Speaker 3: of promotion where like I thought was better than the 398 00:17:32,624 --> 00:17:34,504 Speaker 3: actual interview, Like it just went off. 399 00:17:34,624 --> 00:17:36,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I'm agree that the promotion was better 400 00:17:36,864 --> 00:17:37,584 Speaker 1: than the interview. 401 00:17:37,704 --> 00:17:41,624 Speaker 2: Okay, relax, it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't because then 402 00:17:41,624 --> 00:17:44,664 Speaker 2: I watched the interview. So this interview was eleven minutes 403 00:17:44,704 --> 00:17:48,704 Speaker 2: and thirty nine seconds long, nearly double the average time 404 00:17:48,744 --> 00:17:51,144 Speaker 2: that these interviews usually go for her. And she's interviewed 405 00:17:51,384 --> 00:17:55,424 Speaker 2: a listens like she's interviewed Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman, like share, 406 00:17:55,624 --> 00:17:59,024 Speaker 2: She's interviewed the most famous famous people. But this one 407 00:17:59,264 --> 00:18:02,304 Speaker 2: was the longest. It was eleven minutes thirty nine seconds. 408 00:18:02,344 --> 00:18:05,504 Speaker 2: And I think the reason why this one was so 409 00:18:05,664 --> 00:18:09,064 Speaker 2: long was because he kind of flipped the script onto her. 410 00:18:09,664 --> 00:18:12,464 Speaker 2: So in the interview, she plays a character. She plays 411 00:18:12,464 --> 00:18:15,104 Speaker 2: a character of like the cool girl going on dates, 412 00:18:15,144 --> 00:18:17,784 Speaker 2: trying to find love, and you never really see her 413 00:18:17,824 --> 00:18:20,624 Speaker 2: actual personality when she does other interviews, like when she 414 00:18:20,984 --> 00:18:24,344 Speaker 2: did an interview with Louis Therou on his podcast, you 415 00:18:24,384 --> 00:18:25,184 Speaker 2: saw the real her. 416 00:18:25,624 --> 00:18:28,304 Speaker 1: Yeah, she has like a bit she does like yeah, 417 00:18:28,304 --> 00:18:29,184 Speaker 1: it's very clever. 418 00:18:29,424 --> 00:18:32,464 Speaker 2: And he completely makes her undone. And I know he 419 00:18:32,504 --> 00:18:34,944 Speaker 2: makes her undone because there's like little clips of her 420 00:18:35,064 --> 00:18:37,744 Speaker 2: laughing in the interview, which she never does. She always 421 00:18:37,744 --> 00:18:40,024 Speaker 2: cuts out all of the stuff that they ask her, 422 00:18:40,104 --> 00:18:41,904 Speaker 2: Like every time they're like, so is this like a 423 00:18:41,944 --> 00:18:43,584 Speaker 2: real thing? Are you actually looking for love? She will 424 00:18:43,624 --> 00:18:44,424 Speaker 2: just immediately cut it. 425 00:18:44,504 --> 00:18:44,864 Speaker 1: Ye. Yeah. 426 00:18:44,864 --> 00:18:46,944 Speaker 2: But with this interview she kept it in because I 427 00:18:46,944 --> 00:18:50,464 Speaker 2: think the entire interview she couldn't do her bit. She 428 00:18:50,584 --> 00:18:53,544 Speaker 2: was just herself and she was laughing so much. And 429 00:18:53,584 --> 00:18:55,424 Speaker 2: I'm like, I've never seen her laugh in these little 430 00:18:55,464 --> 00:18:56,464 Speaker 2: Chicken Shop dates ever. 431 00:18:56,904 --> 00:18:58,104 Speaker 1: So I lived up to the hype for you. 432 00:18:58,384 --> 00:19:00,624 Speaker 2: I actually didn't have a hype, Like you didn't know. 433 00:19:00,904 --> 00:19:04,664 Speaker 2: I come into Chicken Shop date with high expectations, so 434 00:19:04,704 --> 00:19:06,144 Speaker 2: I don't buy in into the the. 435 00:19:06,184 --> 00:19:08,544 Speaker 1: Hype around this one, Like major news outlets were doing 436 00:19:08,664 --> 00:19:11,224 Speaker 1: huge coverage in the lead up to it. And I think 437 00:19:11,224 --> 00:19:12,144 Speaker 1: it's because I didn't. 438 00:19:12,464 --> 00:19:15,944 Speaker 2: I don't really find him attractive until I watched this 439 00:19:16,184 --> 00:19:16,744 Speaker 2: do this. 440 00:19:17,624 --> 00:19:21,064 Speaker 1: I've got to say I didn't. I just think maybe 441 00:19:21,264 --> 00:19:24,184 Speaker 1: maybe the hype ruined it too much. She was too much. 442 00:19:24,304 --> 00:19:26,144 Speaker 1: Even I think they thought it was too much. It 443 00:19:26,184 --> 00:19:29,104 Speaker 1: was hard to do, just because it's like in a movie, 444 00:19:29,224 --> 00:19:31,504 Speaker 1: it's like the romance or a TV show. The romance 445 00:19:31,544 --> 00:19:33,424 Speaker 1: was always better when it's sort of like it's like 446 00:19:33,544 --> 00:19:35,344 Speaker 1: bubbling away but you don't know if it's gonna happen. 447 00:19:35,424 --> 00:19:37,024 Speaker 1: But this felt like so set up because it was 448 00:19:37,064 --> 00:19:39,464 Speaker 1: too much hype. And I love those videos when they 449 00:19:39,544 --> 00:19:42,464 Speaker 1: first met on those red carpets because they were so organic, 450 00:19:42,464 --> 00:19:45,984 Speaker 1: they were so unexpected. But this there were some cute moments, 451 00:19:46,024 --> 00:19:48,624 Speaker 1: but some bits of it felt a bit forced. But 452 00:19:49,064 --> 00:19:49,424 Speaker 1: I think. 453 00:19:49,944 --> 00:19:50,144 Speaker 3: No. 454 00:19:50,264 --> 00:19:51,784 Speaker 1: She even says at the end, I'm sorry, did I 455 00:19:51,824 --> 00:19:54,584 Speaker 1: make you less funny? Because he's so aware that, like, 456 00:19:54,744 --> 00:19:56,624 Speaker 1: there's so many of their jokes that they can't do. 457 00:19:56,744 --> 00:19:59,064 Speaker 2: I just think, but he asked around on a real date, right? 458 00:19:59,064 --> 00:19:59,744 Speaker 1: No? He did? 459 00:19:59,984 --> 00:20:02,784 Speaker 2: He did, Yes, he did. We're on a date right now, 460 00:20:03,304 --> 00:20:05,224 Speaker 2: making out somewhere in some other chicken shop. 461 00:20:05,424 --> 00:20:07,464 Speaker 1: I don't want to completely burst your bubble. I don't 462 00:20:07,504 --> 00:20:09,144 Speaker 1: know if this is true, but there has been very 463 00:20:09,144 --> 00:20:12,544 Speaker 1: long term speculation she's with someone. There's been a lot 464 00:20:12,544 --> 00:20:14,864 Speaker 1: of reports, no not him, a lot of reports that 465 00:20:14,904 --> 00:20:16,784 Speaker 1: she's with someone. But she obviously can't be public with 466 00:20:16,864 --> 00:20:19,264 Speaker 1: him because that ruins. The whole chicken shops stick thing. 467 00:20:19,384 --> 00:20:21,064 Speaker 1: I just always think the chicken shops are better when 468 00:20:21,064 --> 00:20:23,264 Speaker 1: they feel really organic. Like, I think she had way 469 00:20:23,304 --> 00:20:27,464 Speaker 1: better chemistry with Billie Eilish because that was unexpected, very 470 00:20:27,504 --> 00:20:30,824 Speaker 1: sexy and unexpected. Whereas like with Ryan Reynolds, he came 471 00:20:30,864 --> 00:20:32,664 Speaker 1: in obviously we know they're not on a date, but 472 00:20:32,824 --> 00:20:34,544 Speaker 1: he came in with like all of his jokes like 473 00:20:34,584 --> 00:20:37,104 Speaker 1: pre planned and tried to get in on the joke 474 00:20:37,184 --> 00:20:37,544 Speaker 1: with her. 475 00:20:37,704 --> 00:20:39,184 Speaker 2: So I thought that to the point where she had 476 00:20:39,184 --> 00:20:40,904 Speaker 2: to like combine him and Hugh Jackman. 477 00:20:42,544 --> 00:20:44,344 Speaker 1: This is it's not fair. If it's like when someone 478 00:20:44,384 --> 00:20:46,624 Speaker 1: in the in the audience is hecky and comedian, it's 479 00:20:46,624 --> 00:20:48,544 Speaker 1: like you don't try and be funny. It's the personal stage. 480 00:20:48,584 --> 00:20:51,824 Speaker 2: Hu Jackman came across much better interview. He's got like 481 00:20:51,864 --> 00:20:53,904 Speaker 2: some divorce energy going on right now. 482 00:20:54,184 --> 00:20:55,944 Speaker 1: Anyway, I did not like it. I obviously loved it. 483 00:20:55,944 --> 00:20:57,504 Speaker 1: I also watched with a smile on my face, but 484 00:20:57,544 --> 00:20:59,224 Speaker 1: I just thought the build up was so intense. I 485 00:20:59,224 --> 00:21:00,904 Speaker 1: actually thought he had better chemistry with Elmo. Do you 486 00:21:00,904 --> 00:21:01,424 Speaker 1: see that video? 487 00:21:01,664 --> 00:21:05,024 Speaker 2: Oh that was really he is nailing the promotion right now. 488 00:21:05,144 --> 00:21:07,504 Speaker 1: I'm just loving everything about him right now. 489 00:21:07,864 --> 00:21:10,664 Speaker 2: Video was like he talked about the death of his mother. Yeah, 490 00:21:10,664 --> 00:21:12,904 Speaker 2: and they talked about like mourning and grief and they 491 00:21:12,904 --> 00:21:15,184 Speaker 2: were just so emotional. 492 00:21:15,464 --> 00:21:17,184 Speaker 1: You know what's making me happy about this is that 493 00:21:17,184 --> 00:21:19,744 Speaker 1: people always say that there's like no like super eligible, 494 00:21:19,864 --> 00:21:22,504 Speaker 1: lovely grounded men out there who are single in their forties, 495 00:21:22,544 --> 00:21:24,544 Speaker 1: Like it's a myth. People are saying, like Adam Body 496 00:21:24,624 --> 00:21:26,544 Speaker 1: and nobody wants It's like the men in their forties 497 00:21:26,544 --> 00:21:28,984 Speaker 1: don't exist. I'm like Andrew Garfield's forty one. 498 00:21:29,104 --> 00:21:30,224 Speaker 2: I've got to tweets though. 499 00:21:30,424 --> 00:21:30,624 Speaker 1: Sure. 500 00:21:31,344 --> 00:21:33,504 Speaker 2: Someone said I can't believe the best roum come of 501 00:21:33,544 --> 00:21:36,104 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four is in eleven minute promo interview between 502 00:21:36,144 --> 00:21:38,904 Speaker 2: Amelia de Maldeburg and Andrew Garfield, and then a Milia 503 00:21:38,944 --> 00:21:41,864 Speaker 2: of the Molderberg reposted and said I can Yeah. Someone 504 00:21:41,904 --> 00:21:44,584 Speaker 2: also it's not wrong. She's not wrong. Someone also said, 505 00:21:44,624 --> 00:21:46,584 Speaker 2: which is I feel like you tweeted this? Do you 506 00:21:46,624 --> 00:21:50,144 Speaker 2: guys think Andrew Garfield has noble intentions towards Amelia or 507 00:21:50,264 --> 00:21:53,104 Speaker 2: is he just extremely advanced forty one year old fuck boy? 508 00:21:53,544 --> 00:21:56,944 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's probably true. Just fucking he knows 509 00:21:56,984 --> 00:21:57,824 Speaker 1: the role she can take. 510 00:21:57,824 --> 00:21:57,864 Speaker 3: It. 511 00:21:57,904 --> 00:21:59,864 Speaker 2: This could be his next Oscar award, well his first 512 00:21:59,904 --> 00:22:00,504 Speaker 2: Oscar award. 513 00:22:00,704 --> 00:22:02,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they talked about that in there. You weren't 514 00:22:02,904 --> 00:22:04,304 Speaker 1: even listening to what that man was saying. 515 00:22:04,304 --> 00:22:04,904 Speaker 2: You were just watching. 516 00:22:05,544 --> 00:22:06,464 Speaker 1: Please kiss now. 517 00:22:07,704 --> 00:22:09,984 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 518 00:22:10,104 --> 00:22:12,984 Speaker 2: If we want more from us, especially Andrew Garfield content, 519 00:22:13,104 --> 00:22:16,744 Speaker 2: we recently did an episode about him and his broke 520 00:22:16,824 --> 00:22:21,864 Speaker 2: up with his professional witch girlfriend, doctor Kate Thomas. We 521 00:22:21,944 --> 00:22:24,264 Speaker 2: also talked about all the possible things she could do 522 00:22:24,344 --> 00:22:28,424 Speaker 2: to him as a professional. Probably we will link that 523 00:22:28,544 --> 00:22:31,384 Speaker 2: episode in our show notes. The Spill is produced by 524 00:22:31,464 --> 00:22:34,664 Speaker 2: Kimberly Bradish with audio production by Scott Stronik. We will 525 00:22:34,664 --> 00:22:37,424 Speaker 2: be back here on your podcast speed at three pm tomorrow. 526 00:22:37,544 --> 00:22:43,944 Speaker 2: Bye bye.