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Speaker 1: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges

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Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to The Spill, your daily pop

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Speaker 1: I'm m Vernon and I'm Laura Brodnick.

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Speaker 2: And on the show today, one of the Kardashian siblings

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Speaker 2: have gotten some complaints from their neighbors for some interesting

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Speaker 2: Halloween decorations. We are also talking about the legal case

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Speaker 2: between FK Twigs and Shilah Buff has really blown up

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Speaker 2: this week. We are going to break everything down for you, but.

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Speaker 1: First, but first, a couple of weeks ago, when I

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Speaker 1: can't remember if you were on holidays or on your

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Speaker 1: best bed something while you were sick. Poor girl, you're

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Speaker 1: still looking a bit pale, not drinking that Emily was

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Speaker 1: away and we did a special Friday episode at the

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Speaker 1: Spill all about comfort shows, you know, especially because there's

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Speaker 1: been a lot of intense releases recently with like, you know,

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Speaker 1: crime documentaries and horror movies, and we thought, sometimes you

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Speaker 1: just want to sit down in front of the TV

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Speaker 1: and watch something that's like a warm, cozy hug. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So what classifies does a comfort show, I would say

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Speaker 1: something that's cozy, like something that's a bit removed from

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Speaker 1: nitty gritty of everyday life. Everyone lives in pretty homes,

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Speaker 1: everyone's always in beautiful, colorful outfits, everyone's hair looks great,

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Speaker 1: the town square decorations for the autumn festival, that sort

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Speaker 1: of stuff like really cut see very kind of family,

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Speaker 1: Girl Boss a soft, gentle, the caress of the Girl Boss.

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Speaker 1: So we did that episode, which was all well and good,

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Speaker 1: and put our own recommendations out and then on my Instagram,

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Speaker 1: I'm always giving recommendations and you know, talking about new

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Speaker 1: releases that are out, all that sort of stuff, and

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Speaker 1: following this episode, I was just flooded with recommendations from

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Speaker 1: spillers on my Instagram of their favorite comforts, Like it

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Speaker 1: really struck a nerve with people because it's just something

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Speaker 1: everyone has. Everyone has their few shows on rotation, and

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Speaker 1: I think we all agree that there are some shows

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Speaker 1: then there are a few that are kind of like

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Speaker 1: the recommendations that were coming through, especially shows recommended by

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Speaker 1: very different people for different reasons. One that came through

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Speaker 1: quite a few times that I was quite surprised by

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Speaker 1: The original with like Luke Perry and Shandohity and I

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Speaker 1: death and battery in prison and stuff. But apart from that,

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Speaker 1: But I think because so many people that was like

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Speaker 1: The Fosters. Have you ever watched that? I love The Fosters.

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Speaker 2: Yes, watched the spinoff series of the Two Girls.

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Speaker 1: Oh well that is yeah, that is coming.

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Speaker 2: But I love The Fosters. I want to classify that

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think the new breed of comfort show because

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Speaker 1: So Maya Mitchell, who plays Callie Adams Foster's Australia, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Adams Foster, and they move to LA as obviously most

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Speaker 1: So Good Trouble so many people said that one kind

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Speaker 2: I think it has to be a majority comfort like

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Speaker 2: add mine number one, The MINDI Project.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's our set comfort. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it again until we die.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, Terry Girls. I like Dairy Girls, but it

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Speaker 1: But I know so many people who they just like,

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Speaker 1: Well, I love both of those recommendations, and obviously keep

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Speaker 1: sending us your comfort show of recommendations. We'll just keep

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Speaker 1: So this week FKA Twigs and her legal team have

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Speaker 2: They would do like red carpets and stuff together and yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. So. In twenty twenty, FK Twigs filed

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Speaker 2: That's so scary, Like reading like these allegations were so terrifying.

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Speaker 2: a bit too far with his method acting. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: terms like like I think there was an allegation that

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Speaker 1: one of her own baby, Rocky thirteen. He's in a pram.

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Speaker 1: She's also showing that her stairs and her like big

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Speaker 1: manchurn all through their yards are covered in beautiful pumpkins.

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Speaker 1: It's actually really cute. I was getting really coloring it. Yes,

430
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Speaker 1: she's got color. Kim doesn't allow color in her home,

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Speaker 1: but Courtney's gone all out with like really traditional like

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Speaker 1: orange pumpkins everywhere. She's got a big bowl of delicious

433
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Speaker 1: autumn vegetables that she's put on the table, which I'm

434
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Speaker 1: sure she no, no, isn't like sugar in her home. This

435
00:20:11,824 --> 00:20:13,344
Speaker 1: was a photo of her doing archery, which I was

436
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Speaker 1: quite jealous at because I always wanted to do archery.

437
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Speaker 2: There is archery a October specific type of sport.

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Speaker 1: And in this case it is maybe that's kind of

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Speaker 1: leading into her Halloween situation. And then she put a

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Speaker 1: photo that is one of the decorations in her yard.

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00:20:26,704 --> 00:20:28,744
Speaker 1: I do believe it might be in her front yard,

442
00:20:28,784 --> 00:20:30,904
Speaker 1: because I feel like I've read on some board close

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Speaker 1: that some of the neighbors have complained about the image,

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00:20:33,904 --> 00:20:35,744
Speaker 1: about the thing in her front about the thing in

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00:20:35,784 --> 00:20:38,424
Speaker 1: her front yard, this particular decoration that she has set

446
00:20:38,504 --> 00:20:41,184
Speaker 1: up lovingly. So it's a whole I just got to

447
00:20:41,184 --> 00:20:43,184
Speaker 1: say that she's doing this obviously to try and be

448
00:20:43,304 --> 00:20:45,664
Speaker 1: really subversive. I don't know if it lands, but the

449
00:20:45,704 --> 00:20:49,384
Speaker 1: people on Instagram they were angry. They were like, how

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00:20:49,544 --> 00:20:51,984
Speaker 1: dare you put up a carousel? Wait? What is it

451
00:20:52,024 --> 00:20:55,424
Speaker 1: with autumn vegetables and baby Rocky thirteen? And then you

452
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Speaker 1: put this photo in the middle of it. Oh my god,

453
00:21:02,184 --> 00:21:06,704
Speaker 1: she's taken my phone. Oh they're not described to the

454
00:21:06,704 --> 00:21:11,064
Speaker 1: people what you see? No, no, I do. Go on.

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Speaker 1: You've been on a podcast before. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: the skeletons doing paint. Is the word picture?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm assuming it's a boy skeleton and a

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Speaker 2: girl skeleton because the girls skeleton has like some veil

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Speaker 2: on it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's meant to be Courtney and Travis

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00:21:25,664 --> 00:21:27,104
Speaker 1: is what we're supposed to take away from that. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to assume in this case, we

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Speaker 1: can assume gender that one is Courtney and one is Travis.

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Speaker 2: They're in a very intimate position.

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Speaker 1: They're inflatable skeletons being inflatable skeletons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the male skeleton is kind of just like sitting

467
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Speaker 2: on the grass with his legs spread, and the female

468
00:21:45,224 --> 00:21:48,784
Speaker 2: skeleton skeleton is like straddling him, and like.

469
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Speaker 1: Skeleton's having sex. I think is what we can We

470
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Speaker 1: can say.

471
00:21:51,664 --> 00:21:59,704
Speaker 2: They're having sex. They're doing the cowgirl I think, oh, nice, up.

472
00:21:59,824 --> 00:22:02,184
Speaker 2: So they're also like about to kiss, but not really.

473
00:22:02,384 --> 00:22:04,264
Speaker 2: She's got her hand on him.

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Speaker 1: Being intimate. It's very romantic in the front yard of

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Speaker 1: her home. Yep. Is that what you would call it romantic?

476
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I find the love

477
00:22:13,264 --> 00:22:15,944
Speaker 1: stories of skeletons that epic, but Cordy and Travis do.

478
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Speaker 1: Its very brand I understand.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't think it's coming from a place of

480
00:22:20,304 --> 00:22:23,584
Speaker 2: crudeness with the neighbors complaining about this, But if you're

481
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Speaker 2: dropping your children to school and they're looking at that, going, mom,

482
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Speaker 2: what's that happening? Are skeletons doing? Are they fighting? And

483
00:22:30,824 --> 00:22:32,824
Speaker 2: the parents have to be like, why would she do

484
00:22:32,904 --> 00:22:35,264
Speaker 2: this to us? Every single morning for the whole month

485
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Speaker 2: of Loba.

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Speaker 1: But also you've got to think that twenty Eachravis just

487
00:22:38,184 --> 00:22:39,944
Speaker 1: love this shit. Like also, I think they're trying to

488
00:22:39,984 --> 00:22:42,384
Speaker 1: be subversive, but also I do think it is just

489
00:22:42,464 --> 00:22:44,904
Speaker 1: kind of their personal brand because when they first got together,

490
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Speaker 1: they were talking about like their sex life really intently.

491
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Speaker 1: They were making out on so many different red carpets

492
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Speaker 1: and not like a cute little makeout, like a sucking

493
00:22:53,744 --> 00:22:56,224
Speaker 1: each other's faces and feet and stuff. And every event

494
00:22:56,264 --> 00:22:58,224
Speaker 1: they went to they would go into the bathroom and

495
00:22:58,264 --> 00:23:02,504
Speaker 1: do like a photo shoot in the toilet. It's just

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Speaker 1: like not having sex they have.

497
00:23:05,584 --> 00:23:08,904
Speaker 2: Imagine your parents, like I can't even like Well.

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Speaker 1: Forney has said that she feels sorry for people who

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Speaker 1: don't support public intimacy and they obviously don't have as

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Speaker 1: good a sex life as her and Travis, is what

501
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Speaker 1: she said.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, oh, yeah, she should also say that to

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Speaker 2: her kids. That's exactly the people who are complaining right now,

504
00:23:20,864 --> 00:23:21,384
Speaker 2: I can tell you that.

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Speaker 1: So that's caused a stir, which I think is definitely

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Speaker 1: what she wanted. Like that's why she put a photo

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00:23:25,184 --> 00:23:30,704
Speaker 1: of like it's like baby pumpkin vegetable vegetable archery, sex, skeletons, pumpkin.

508
00:23:30,944 --> 00:23:33,184
Speaker 2: Surely they did that just for the photo, and now

509
00:23:33,224 --> 00:23:35,664
Speaker 2: the skeletons are like the opposite sides of the ground.

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Speaker 1: I still like that. From what people are saying, Oh no,

511
00:23:38,384 --> 00:23:40,264
Speaker 1: I should say, it's not the first time the Kardashians

512
00:23:40,264 --> 00:23:42,664
Speaker 1: have got in trouble for something wh's in their front yard,

513
00:23:42,664 --> 00:23:44,344
Speaker 1: but never for something I'm just going to say, is

514
00:23:44,384 --> 00:23:48,344
Speaker 1: like harmless and sexy? Is some skeletonsless.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for being the proud if you're the prood,

516
00:23:51,504 --> 00:23:54,544
Speaker 2: I just can't, like I'd feel so embarrassed. Maybe it's

517
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Speaker 2: because like if I was in that situation, like if

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Speaker 2: I was a neighbor. Yeah, I want my future. This

519
00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:02,304
Speaker 2: is my future. I want to be that person in

520
00:24:02,344 --> 00:24:05,304
Speaker 2: the family who everyone comes over. Yeah, like I want

521
00:24:05,304 --> 00:24:08,144
Speaker 2: to host the big parties. I love hosting. And if

522
00:24:08,144 --> 00:24:10,304
Speaker 2: my family is going to be seeing that like opposite

523
00:24:10,424 --> 00:24:13,384
Speaker 2: at my house, I'm committing a crime. I'm committing a crime.

524
00:24:13,824 --> 00:24:18,544
Speaker 2: I'm unflating those skeletons. Well, my little Sydney skeletons, my

525
00:24:18,544 --> 00:24:20,704
Speaker 2: little Sydney neighborhood. I won't say where I live, not

526
00:24:20,704 --> 00:24:23,144
Speaker 2: that anyone cares to stalk me. Got recently voted one

527
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Speaker 2: of the coolest neighborhoods in the world. That's right, that's

528
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Speaker 2: how she go at. Are we in the same neighborhood?

529
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Speaker 1: No, you're one suburb. Both are, so you're not in. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: don't don't steal this. I'm cheek adjacent, chek adjaccon if

531
00:24:33,464 --> 00:24:36,384
Speaker 1: you just moved a few a few streets over and

532
00:24:36,464 --> 00:24:38,944
Speaker 1: Halloween decorating has become very big in my neighborhood. But

533
00:24:39,024 --> 00:24:41,984
Speaker 1: mostly people just put like chic little pumpkins and candles

534
00:24:41,984 --> 00:24:44,384
Speaker 1: out the front, so no plastic, know, anything like that. Oh,

535
00:24:44,584 --> 00:24:47,024
Speaker 1: nothing weird. Like everyone's very like old school, like all

536
00:24:47,064 --> 00:24:50,064
Speaker 1: hallosy vibes. And I've never decorated my home, but now

537
00:24:50,064 --> 00:24:52,784
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, amongst all the sheek pumpkins and like beautiful

538
00:24:52,824 --> 00:24:55,864
Speaker 1: white candles on my street, do I put some sexy

539
00:24:55,904 --> 00:24:58,344
Speaker 1: skeletons out to try and join in with my neighbors

540
00:24:58,344 --> 00:25:00,744
Speaker 1: and see what the reaction. I'm gonna be the Courtney

541
00:25:00,824 --> 00:25:04,664
Speaker 1: Kardashian of this Sydney suburb. I can't say though, it's

542
00:25:04,704 --> 00:25:06,584
Speaker 1: not the first time they've gotten in trouble, because last

543
00:25:06,664 --> 00:25:09,744
Speaker 1: year Kim Kardashian came under fire, which is like, how

544
00:25:09,824 --> 00:25:11,784
Speaker 1: all the headline and said it not to be super tabloidy.

545
00:25:11,984 --> 00:25:15,584
Speaker 2: Where do they get like so horny over like Halloween.

546
00:25:15,424 --> 00:25:17,744
Speaker 1: This one people were upset about because they thought it

547
00:25:17,864 --> 00:25:21,384
Speaker 1: was being distasteful because so Kim last year she went

548
00:25:21,504 --> 00:25:24,344
Speaker 1: full China horror House, which I thought was ea weery

549
00:25:24,384 --> 00:25:26,424
Speaker 1: because as they said, her house is already huge and

550
00:25:26,464 --> 00:25:28,424
Speaker 1: wide and echo we and it would be scary for

551
00:25:28,504 --> 00:25:31,464
Speaker 1: children in a day. Yeah, horror in general. And then

552
00:25:31,464 --> 00:25:33,784
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm gonna make it an old schoolhouse and

553
00:25:33,824 --> 00:25:35,704
Speaker 1: the idea was to make it look like there were

554
00:25:35,784 --> 00:25:39,024
Speaker 1: bodies buried in the backyard, and yeah, I think this

555
00:25:39,064 --> 00:25:40,704
Speaker 1: is much worse for the kids, and people like this

556
00:25:40,744 --> 00:25:42,744
Speaker 1: is awful, Like people are really dying in the world,

557
00:25:42,784 --> 00:25:45,624
Speaker 1: people really get buried in backyards. And you have so

558
00:25:45,704 --> 00:25:47,624
Speaker 1: much money and you're flaunting your wealth and this is

559
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Speaker 1: the picture that people got upset about.

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Speaker 2: Okay, people need a relax, like this is Halloween.

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Speaker 1: This for me, like the pitch I'm showing, just describe

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Speaker 1: the picture. We're on pcast.

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00:25:56,184 --> 00:25:59,264
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's so so sorry forgot It's a little

564
00:25:59,304 --> 00:26:03,024
Speaker 2: garden bed and there's these like plastic white tans that

565
00:26:03,024 --> 00:26:04,904
Speaker 2: they're coming out from the bed. That's like probably like

566
00:26:05,024 --> 00:26:08,104
Speaker 2: fifty of them. It looks so fake, like there's.

567
00:26:09,464 --> 00:26:13,024
Speaker 1: There's nothing stare and the listen about this scandal last

568
00:26:13,104 --> 00:26:15,184
Speaker 1: about this, Well, what I think? I think some people

569
00:26:15,184 --> 00:26:17,224
Speaker 1: are upset about the money because those aren't plastic hands,

570
00:26:17,264 --> 00:26:19,904
Speaker 1: so it's only those are individually crafted. I think their

571
00:26:20,024 --> 00:26:22,144
Speaker 1: hands like a crafted off the Kardashian family, like a

572
00:26:22,144 --> 00:26:25,304
Speaker 1: proper artist in those each one of those hands more

573
00:26:25,464 --> 00:26:29,384
Speaker 1: than your car Dashian hands. Yeah, and the hands are

574
00:26:29,424 --> 00:26:31,184
Speaker 1: like coming out of the garden to look like the

575
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Speaker 1: dead a rising And people are like, that's one step

576
00:26:33,904 --> 00:26:35,744
Speaker 1: too far. And I'm like, out of all the scandals

577
00:26:35,824 --> 00:26:38,144
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian has had, this is it. This is it?

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Speaker 2: You know what she can handle another one? I find

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Speaker 2: I think that scandal's fine. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: listening to the Spill today. If you love listening to

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Speaker 2: our topics where we cover the Kardashians, we know you do.

582
00:26:48,344 --> 00:26:52,744
Speaker 2: Mammy's podcast Canceled also covered Northwest this week about how

583
00:26:52,824 --> 00:26:56,064
Speaker 2: she keeps her mom Kim very humbled, as well as

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Speaker 2: that Lion King's performance that we also talked about, and

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Speaker 2: we also have a lot to say on that. We

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Speaker 2: will put a link to their episode in our show

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Speaker 2: notes and we will see you back here in your

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Speaker 2: podcast feed at three pm tomorrow. Bye bye, Trallallod