WEBVTT - Ryan Gosling Threw A Tantrum, Jennifer Garner’s Surprise Role & Inside A Dramatic MAFS Split

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<v Speaker 1>From Mum and Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Tina provis and coming up on.

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<v Speaker 1>The show today. Lots to discuss. First of all, there

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<v Speaker 1>has been a dramatic development in the Suddenly thirty reboot

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<v Speaker 1>movie and I've got to say, like I don't often

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<v Speaker 1>do this, but when I saw those photos very early

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<v Speaker 1>this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally gasped, Yeah, a poserving.

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<v Speaker 1>A plot twist has occurred. We're going to get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus married at first sight, there was one golden couple

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<v Speaker 1>that came out of the show this year and they

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<v Speaker 1>have had a very dramatic and apparently blind siding breakup,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to get into that. So behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes stuff. Also what goes into breaking out with someone

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<v Speaker 1>that you've very publicly fallen in love with on TV

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<v Speaker 1>because there's mechanics to it. Yes, But first, another outrage

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, so I'm really highly strung this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot going on. There's a lot to unpack.

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<v Speaker 3>So justice has been served for specifically Ryan Gosling. After

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<v Speaker 3>years of being haunted in his words, by the La

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<v Speaker 3>La Land movie poster, Lionsgate has now unveiled in celebration

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<v Speaker 3>of the tenure anniversary, a new refreshed poster which has

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<v Speaker 3>one small, tiny change to his hand placement. So the

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<v Speaker 3>original poster so iconic as you would remember. It features

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<v Speaker 3>Emma Stone in her role as Mia and Ryan Gosling

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<v Speaker 3>as Sebastian, and the pair dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>Their arms are like.

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<v Speaker 3>Outstretched, and we see that Ryan has a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>pizzaz in his hand. It's slightly faced downwards. But for

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<v Speaker 3>years he's been like ruminating over that decision. Back in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four, Ryan was asked by Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 3>what is the one role that he would like to

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<v Speaker 3>do over, to which he said, La La Land, which

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<v Speaker 3>is a big call for a beloved movie like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and the reason being that he is haunted by one moment,

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<v Speaker 3>in particular with his decision to point his hand downwards,

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<v Speaker 3>which is of course what's captured in the poster, because

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<v Speaker 3>they were like dancing, having their moment, and they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>actually know that that was what was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>the image that was plastered all over the posters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and it went on to be not just the poster,

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<v Speaker 1>but the kind of iconic imagery and photo that was

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<v Speaker 1>used with that movie, which became like this huge sensation,

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<v Speaker 1>nominated for all these Oscars and a stone one Best Actress,

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<v Speaker 1>which ten years looking back, I don't think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a controversial take, and I think she would probably agree

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't deserve the Oscar for that. She deserved the

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar the last two times she woned. I really believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that one it was just like, here's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>girl singing a nice song. And I say that as

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<v Speaker 1>someone who loves musicals and I really liked Lala Lan.

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<v Speaker 1>I still listen to the songs quite a bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're my favorite, like house cleaning, walking rotations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think They've got this visual in my mind now.

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<v Speaker 1>Me picking up the mop and then having to like

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<v Speaker 1>stop because I'm TVZ trying to recreate the dance on

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<v Speaker 1>the Girl where she takes her heels off and puts

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<v Speaker 1>her flats onto iconic. But yes, Ryan Gosling always tells

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<v Speaker 1>this story with like a very haunted, haunted look comes

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<v Speaker 1>into his eye. His voice gets lower, and he talks

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<v Speaker 1>at the fact they were filming on that iconic hilltop

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<v Speaker 1>moment overlooking La they were losing the light huge in filmmaking,

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<v Speaker 1>like they had this one moment to get the perfect light,

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<v Speaker 1>and he thought it would be kind of funny or

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to like put his hand up and like then

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<v Speaker 1>and like do a very dramatic wrist drop, like to

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<v Speaker 1>make her.

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<v Speaker 2>The only way to describe yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean we're both doing it on the camera. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know how to possibly describe it to the audio

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<v Speaker 1>is like, yeah, like a hand up and then a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden wrist drop. And that went on to be the

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<v Speaker 1>poster and he's always hated it. And so as you

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<v Speaker 1>say they've changed it, what do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I just feel like, as one of the

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<v Speaker 3>world's most beautiful men, I don't really think he understands

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<v Speaker 3>having a bad photo, Like if that is his qualm,

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<v Speaker 3>then you've never had a bad photo.

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<v Speaker 2>Like does Ryan Gosling have a bad angle?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think it's bad from what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that it's not the creative choice he would

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<v Speaker 1>have made to be the main image from the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was like, why you tell something. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you just try something new for a moment and afterwards

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, why did I do that?

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<v Speaker 3>And they would have done it, Like I wonder if

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<v Speaker 3>he kept doing that in the dance, because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>they shot that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he did it. He did it in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he did it in that moment and he

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, oh, kind of try this. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I did it, And then that became the

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<v Speaker 1>main age and he didn't do it in all the

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<v Speaker 1>other takes. It's kind of like if you decide to like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're taking this big photo, like I'm going to decide

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<v Speaker 1>to like not smile with my teeth this time, and

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<v Speaker 1>after like why did I do that? I never get it?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's always the one that like the groups like

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<v Speaker 3>let's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>All that becomes the photo, or you try something with

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<v Speaker 1>your hair on photo day and afterwards you're like why

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<v Speaker 1>did I? I never do a side part like that? Why

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<v Speaker 1>would I do it? So I can't I understand. But

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<v Speaker 1>also I must say I am outraged by this. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>I am outraged by the poster for Lala Lamb being

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<v Speaker 1>changed to accommodate Ryan Gosling's feelings, because you can't change

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<v Speaker 1>iconic cinema imagery like that, like it so baby, it

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to see if this has happened before, and

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't see too many other examples, and just like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, so better or for worse, that is the Lala

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb poster. That is it. You can't go in and

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<v Speaker 1>erase history like that, just because he's having a little

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<v Speaker 1>bitch fit on the side about not liking the placement

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<v Speaker 1>of his hand, bitch fit for ten years crazy to

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<v Speaker 1>get it. Also, no one else would have picked up

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<v Speaker 1>on how weird the hand does look a bit weird

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<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't do it anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never noticed it until.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly it's the Barbara streisand effect. Do you know how

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<v Speaker 1>like she tried to petition to get her house not

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<v Speaker 1>like publicly listed, and because she did that, no one

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<v Speaker 1>knew it was like being photographed and shared publicly, and

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<v Speaker 1>then everyone went to look at it. That's what he did,

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<v Speaker 1>yea Barbara Stris and his hand by saying, Hey, my

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<v Speaker 1>hand looks really weird and I'm really so conscious about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's like, we literally never noticed that. We just

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<v Speaker 1>thought you were hot and dancing in that movie. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that this is setting a dangerous precedent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we can't be recut.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is already fake everyone's got a fake face. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>got fake teeth, fake hair, fake eyes. Everything's like now

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<v Speaker 1>we're even going and erasing something like sometimes a mistake

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<v Speaker 1>makes the best totally. Like it's like when Marilyn Munroe

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally walked over that hot event and her dress blow amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine if she'd gone back and said, see,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate like the dresses scrunching into my hand there,

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<v Speaker 1>can you redo it? And like you lose that iconic photo.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ryan Gosling, you're on notice for you grow up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>get over it. You can't change history like that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into our next like that, Tina, have

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<v Speaker 1>you done our monthly spill quiz? Anyone doesn't know we

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<v Speaker 1>have a spill quiz now. It's all questions based around

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<v Speaker 1>topics from the podcast, and then once a month it

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<v Speaker 1>grows up and you can go through and like prove

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<v Speaker 1>how smart you are to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning to do it. So I'm being like publicly shamed

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've got the Hey, you've got you had some

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<v Speaker 1>time to date. It's either you do it and you

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<v Speaker 1>get some questions wrong and then you kind of learn

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<v Speaker 1>about pop culture, or you do it and you get

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<v Speaker 1>every question right and you get to feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>smartest person in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>True.

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<v Speaker 3>True, And then once I get everything wrong, I'll then

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<v Speaker 3>know the answers that I can do it again and

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<v Speaker 3>feel smartest.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I mean that is cheating, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>no hate. You can do that quiz as many times

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<v Speaker 1>as you there's no rule. Actually, wait, we've got a

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<v Speaker 1>test question our producer. Our producer has picked out a

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<v Speaker 1>question from the quick So give you a little tast

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<v Speaker 1>okay question. What is Romeo Beckham's new tennis romance film

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<v Speaker 1>called Wait? I give you options. I give you options

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<v Speaker 1>because we did options on the quiz. Yeah we did, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we did this care Oh great, well, ultra embarrassing. Then

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know, okay, the options are love deuce.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that you say it douce?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>It is caught a fair forty love love all. There's

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<v Speaker 1>four love yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, if I didn't get that. Also, the other

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<v Speaker 2>ones were just all slightly wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, They're all just little something a little bit weird

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<v Speaker 1>about them. So we will link the quiz in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. If anyone hasn't done it yet. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a fun time, okay, onto something that outraged

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<v Speaker 1>me this morning, and I must say it like I

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<v Speaker 1>get outright, Yeah, yeah, I know. Ryan Gosling's on my list,

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<v Speaker 1>and now the cast of Suddenly thirty is also on

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<v Speaker 1>my list. I must say, I get outraged pretty quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's nothing to write home. So we already that

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<v Speaker 1>a reboot of the classic early two thousand's rom com

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly thirty or thirteen going on thirty if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, and if you're trees, Yeah, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>weird because every outlet, obviously who's reporting on this is Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>They say thirteen going on thirty and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, no, it's cattue, right, But let's never do

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<v Speaker 1>that again, give movies different names in different countries, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's upsetting for everyone. So we already knew that the

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<v Speaker 1>iconic movie was getting a reboot, and it was starring

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<v Speaker 1>Emily Beta and Logan Lehrman. Great. I love both those actors.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish Emily Beta was not available because she was

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<v Speaker 1>filming My Lady Jane's Season two, but that show got canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>If anyone had to watch it, it's amazing. So every time

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<v Speaker 1>I see her in something else is like a little

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<v Speaker 1>knife to my heartache outrage. Okay, but anyway, that's neither

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<v Speaker 1>here nor that. So previously, when this was announced by

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix with a Netflix movie, which also gives me pause. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like, well, the thing is, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>do a big theatrical release for a remake of a movie,

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<v Speaker 1>so actually does need to be on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they did Devil Was.

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<v Speaker 1>No No, but that was a sequel to the origin.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just a retread of the story with younger

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<v Speaker 1>HoTT people. That does give Netflix not hot I mean hotter,

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<v Speaker 1>now you know what I mean. Anyway, So Jennifer Gannah

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<v Speaker 1>was also on board as an executive producer, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what, let it, let it, let

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<v Speaker 1>it happen. If it needs to happen, everyone will watch

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<v Speaker 1>it when it comes on Netflix. Those actors are nice,

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Garner is involved, That'll be fine. And then about

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<v Speaker 1>a week or so ago, she was doing an interview

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<v Speaker 1>with Variety because she's also in that new show Five

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<v Speaker 1>Star Weekends. She's doing a lot of press at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was talking about the production of thirteen going

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<v Speaker 1>and she was, oh, she was talking about the articles

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<v Speaker 1>that I had to do research. Like I know, she

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about production on I was about to come

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<v Speaker 1>it and you kept going She's like, now, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>letting that one fly, but that's going to air for

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<v Speaker 1>the people to hear. She was doing it talking about

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<v Speaker 1>going to the set of Suddenly thirty, and she said

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<v Speaker 1>she was like being all choy with the reporter and

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<v Speaker 1>being like, Oh, I'm going to the set. I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>how things are going. Maybe I'll sneak into a background shot.

0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'll sort of be able to walk through a scene,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'll see if they'll like let me be in

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<v Speaker 1>the background. Everyone's like, haha, classic Jennifer Garner being all

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<v Speaker 1>Cutesye anyway, liar, because she's not in the background of

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<v Speaker 1>a shot. She has been filmed and the folk they

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<v Speaker 1>were papped. Obviously they're filming on a street corner, so

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<v Speaker 1>they've been papped. Photos came out this morning showing Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>Gana in the new Suddenly thirty movie Oh My Rest

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<v Speaker 1>as her character Jenna rink.

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<v Speaker 2>I will pass away.

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<v Speaker 1>She is reprising her character in that movie, but I

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<v Speaker 1>guess she can't completely reprise it because Emily Bate is

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<v Speaker 1>playing that character. But she's playing something to do. She's

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<v Speaker 1>playing like something to do with that character. And Judy

0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Grier amazing played her best friend in the original Suddenly

0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:58.600
<v Speaker 1>thirty movie, best friend Fredimie and then enemy Actually journey

0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.240
<v Speaker 1>is how that goes. Judy Greer, who's also in her

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<v Speaker 1>new show five Star Weekend, because since they started Suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>thirty together, they are still best friends. Love that is

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<v Speaker 1>on the set dressed as her character Tom Tom, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're walking out of shops and they're talking and they're

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<v Speaker 1>both in full character.

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<v Speaker 2>Their outfits are great as well.

0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:19.040
<v Speaker 1>The outfits are soft.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it mean?

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<v Speaker 3>I need to know what it means because I would

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<v Speaker 3>love to just have some reassurance that we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get a little bit of an insight into like what

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<v Speaker 3>happened with their lives after the first film.

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<v Speaker 1>Well but potentially yes, but I don't think that can

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<v Speaker 1>happen because she can't be they can't be playing those

0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.520
<v Speaker 1>characters because the shot again, we don't know. They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>released the full plot. So if anyone hasn't seen Suddenly thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, first of all, what the hell are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing with your life? But Jennifer Gana so like a

0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.520
<v Speaker 1>younger actress Christa Allen actually, who played Jennifer Ganah a

0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.000
<v Speaker 1>few different times as a younger version of herself because

0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:57.720
<v Speaker 1>they look identical. She's in high school, she's turned thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's at this party with the Cairls and they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of make fun of her and she wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be thirty. Classic this is the first time as a teen.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's like, oh my god, it's thirty not old. Is

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<v Speaker 1>thirty fun?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And let me tell you, thirties are great. Okay, They're

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what the movie promise.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just in my thirties now, so yeah, but don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's what the movie promise. You have a

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<v Speaker 1>fun apartment, you live in the city, you go out,

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<v Speaker 1>you have great clothes.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to be thirteen though, really yeah, way, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>no way.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirties are way better than thirteen, can I just isn't

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<v Speaker 1>everything you wanted as a thirteen year old you have

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<v Speaker 1>as a thirty year old now? So that's how I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, I don't have funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I had my own apartment and I could

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<v Speaker 1>go out whenever I wanted and do whatever I want,

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<v Speaker 1>And I wish I had heaps of beautiful clothes and

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<v Speaker 1>like cool friends, and guess what you have all those things.

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<v Speaker 3>I just forgot it comes with, like expenses and responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>There is that you gotta.

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<v Speaker 2>Forget about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about my thirteen self a lot when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like getting dressed to go to events or something, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing you have that Oh I'm so tired,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, you know, I've got to do it

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<v Speaker 1>For thirteen year old me, she would be so thrilled about, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>waking up in her pretty apartment, going to do a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>wearing her pretty clothes, going with her friends, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>all we want. It's all we wanted as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>So you got to remember that when you felt tired. Okay, yes,

0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.840
<v Speaker 1>so the point of the movie. Yes, so she wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be thirty, and then, through some fairy dust magic,

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<v Speaker 1>don't question it, she wakes up in Jennifer Ganna's body,

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<v Speaker 1>and she is thirty, and she is an editor at

0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:24.520
<v Speaker 1>her favorite magazine, Poise, and she has a gorgeous apartment.

0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.240
<v Speaker 1>She has heaps of clothes, she has a hot boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you were saying, it's also not what she

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<v Speaker 1>pitched it to be because below the surface, her adult

0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.000
<v Speaker 1>life is a bit of a mess. It's also why

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<v Speaker 1>so many girls went into media, because.

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<v Speaker 3>We watched just thinking that, like all these shows, Really

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I was going to be having a pent

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<v Speaker 3>house apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's the thing I think. Rom Coms

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't lie to us about love. They lied to

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<v Speaker 1>us about real estate. Yeah, because yes, we have pretty

0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.280
<v Speaker 1>apartments now, but they're pretty small and they're pretty expensive,

0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and we don't own them because we'll never own them.

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<v Speaker 1>But apart from that, no, no, yeah, rom coms always

0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.720
<v Speaker 1>made us feel like we'd be living in these huge,

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<v Speaker 1>like loft apartment totally. So that's a lie. But that's okay,

0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:05.440
<v Speaker 1>we skim past that. We know now that was fantasy.

0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And so she know she falls in love with her

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<v Speaker 1>childhood friend Mark Ruffalo, slightly problematic because he's an adult man.

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<v Speaker 1>They like kind of kiss and then she's thirteen, but

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have sex.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the new movie will go there. So no worrying,

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<v Speaker 1>You look really worried.

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<v Speaker 2>That's concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, so yeah, so Judy Greer and Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>Ganna in the new Suddenly thirty movie. True, it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>just a little background. I think people were very excited

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<v Speaker 1>because that, like, like you thought, and like I thought

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<v Speaker 1>for a second, like, oh my god, she's reprising her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I forgot that they were doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless the new character is Emily Beata's character is not

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<v Speaker 1>like that Jenna Rink.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe not if it's like her daughter, that would

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<v Speaker 3>annoy me because that just feels like a free Friday

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, surely not that would. Netflix is not

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed this at all. I checked their sight before we

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<v Speaker 1>came on their official site for the Suddenly thirty slash

0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:00.720
<v Speaker 1>thirteen going on thirty movie, and they don't list Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>Gannah or Judy Greer as cast, so like, obviously this

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't supposed to get out now big spoiler. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if Emily Beata's character is going to be freaking out

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<v Speaker 1>on like a shop and she's like, I'm really thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>and no one believes her, and the camera spins around

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<v Speaker 1>and it's Jennifer Ghana as Gennerine and she's like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Understand, Oh my god, She's like FLI is listening.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened to me too. You just need to go

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<v Speaker 1>sit in a the closet and like rock back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth and like some magical dust will transform you back

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<v Speaker 1>to a child, and then they both get taken to

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<v Speaker 1>a sail asylum.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that is a twist.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's what you would take someone who was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>but cute. So we don't know when the movie's coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually on the Netflix side, it's like release date much

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<v Speaker 1>like Poise, like this is going to take a little while,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can't give you a release day yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>like stay tuned. So yeah, big day, big emotional day

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone who loves suddenly thirty. So yesterday were given

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<v Speaker 1>some not very nice news. No matter what you think

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<v Speaker 1>of reality TV or the people who were on it,

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<v Speaker 1>when anyone has a breakup, especially in the public eye

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<v Speaker 1>and there's like a lot of controversy around it, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad day for them. So in Maths twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six Married at First Sight Australia, we had one golden

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<v Speaker 1>couple in the absolute shit show that was this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Maths is bad every year, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>this year, didn't you think? Because you and I talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>It literally every length.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to watch every episode and talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>for work a lot I've never being so traumatized going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they were the only strong couple. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's not the fact that they were the strong they

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<v Speaker 3>were essentially the only couple too moments.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about Stella and Phillips. So again with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of breakups, a lot of very upsetting men

0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.800
<v Speaker 1>that were in the mix, a lot of mean girl

0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.680
<v Speaker 1>behavior but also mean boy behavior. We had this one

0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.920
<v Speaker 1>love story in marrit at First Sight this year, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was between Stella and Philip, and they loved each

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<v Speaker 1>other from the moment they met at the first time

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<v Speaker 1>up at the altar. Out of all all the couples,

0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.760
<v Speaker 1>they had like one of the most romantic sweet honeymoons.

0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.399
<v Speaker 1>Remember all the videos of them in that little bathtub together.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, like they had they had swimmer on bird.

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<v Speaker 3>It was in sight for me. Yet left that one

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<v Speaker 3>to the imagination.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And they went all the way through the experiment

0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.760
<v Speaker 1>very lovey dovey. And then in the final of married

0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.119
<v Speaker 1>at First Sight, when all the couples have their like

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<v Speaker 1>recommitment ceremony and they get all dressed up in this

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful location, they walk towards each other and they say

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<v Speaker 1>if they want to stay together or not. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>for most people, it's like a bit of a public

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<v Speaker 1>humiliation ritual. Yeah, yeah, especially for like a beck who's

0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.960
<v Speaker 1>like wearing a full bridal dress stuff and creepy man's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, Oh, I don't think I like you anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Get rid of that geezer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, normally going to say his name. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to think about him anymore.

0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Because we can't really.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, what was his name? Can I We

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<v Speaker 1>had so much trouble with those I think I actually

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<v Speaker 1>think trauma was blocking it out for me because all

0:17:58.119 --> 0:17:59.640
<v Speaker 1>those men on married at first site, they all looked

0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the same me. They all behaved badly and let's not

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<v Speaker 1>think of them. They deserve to be formoved on anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So at the end of the season, Philip and Stella

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<v Speaker 1>came together at the Sydney Opera House just outside over

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<v Speaker 1>the Harbor. Beautiful location. They definitely got one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best locations.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you know, That's how you know.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I saw it, as like production knew

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<v Speaker 1>this was going to be their big epic moment with

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<v Speaker 1>like a sweeping camera on a crane, and they it

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<v Speaker 1>was no surprise when they decided to stay together. But

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<v Speaker 1>what was a bit of a surprise is that at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of their recommitment ceremony, Philip dramatically dropped down

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<v Speaker 1>onto one knee and asked Stella to marry him for real,

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<v Speaker 1>not even a fake TV wedding, a real wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>She said yes, And so they ended the show engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've been you know, spotted at events and saying,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously that was filmed nearly a year ago, think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty much a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So for the last year or so they've

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<v Speaker 1>been together, they've been to events publicly, they get papped

0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.080
<v Speaker 1>walking out and about, and by all accounts, they were

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<v Speaker 1>still living in like different cities where they were like

0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.680
<v Speaker 1>planning to she was planning to move to him in Melbourne,

0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and they were all happy and loved up.

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<v Speaker 3>There was even a post on the sixth of July,

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<v Speaker 3>like there was an Instagram reel which you posted and

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<v Speaker 3>it had a few like happy clips with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, not that long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, I don't think it was that long ago,

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<v Speaker 1>which is we'll get into in the statement. And then

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<v Speaker 1>this week, I think it was Monday, I started seeing

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<v Speaker 1>like posts and murmurs and then full on news articles

0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that Stella and Philip had broken up and they had

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<v Speaker 1>unfollowed each other on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she also had this cryptic selfie on the

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<v Speaker 3>beach and like a big poem underneath it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that look. Everyone's like, is she teasing a breakup

0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing? Which I don't launching launching a breakup?

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you're a public eye, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>meet me sometimes just so it's not such a show.

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<v Speaker 1>So the last few days we've been kind of watching

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<v Speaker 1>it and I was like, oh, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it, and until they actually say they're broken up,

0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:54.919
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of things could be happening. Maybe they

0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:56.760
<v Speaker 1>had a little tiff and they unfollowed each other, who

0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:00.800
<v Speaker 1>would know. But yesterday Stella put out a state confirming

0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.720
<v Speaker 1>not only had they broken up, but she was completely

0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:08.080
<v Speaker 1>blindsided by it. So she wrote, I never imagined I'd

0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.240
<v Speaker 1>be writing something like this, but I feel it's important

0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to share my truth. Philip ended our relationship. While he

0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 1>has clearly been processing that decision for some time, I

0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>genuinely believe we're working towards the same future. I was

0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:23.480
<v Speaker 1>completely blindsided. And then she went on too because I

0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.199
<v Speaker 1>think maybe this has been a source of contention in

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the news reports, like she refused to move to him,

0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.000
<v Speaker 1>which is something that does break up a lot of

0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.480
<v Speaker 1>couple's post reality TV. She then said, one thing I

0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.960
<v Speaker 1>do want to clarify is that despite what was showing

0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.800
<v Speaker 1>on the show, I made the decision to move to Melbourne.

0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.399
<v Speaker 1>I own a business that I've spent years building, so

0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.280
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't as simple as packing a suitcase. I needed

0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.439
<v Speaker 1>a few months to wrap things up and leases and

0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:51.520
<v Speaker 1>put everything in place before relocating. Then she wanted to say,

0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.480
<v Speaker 1>as our relationship grew, I believed moving to Melbourne made

0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the most sense for us. And then she wanted to say, like,

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.639
<v Speaker 1>it offers family support, and she thought that was the

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.560
<v Speaker 1>most affordable place them to live their life together. And

0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:05.320
<v Speaker 1>then she said, I've always been realistic about my biological clock,

0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and starting a family has been something I'd hoped for

0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.959
<v Speaker 1>so long. I genuinely thought we were making these decisions together.

0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:14.240
<v Speaker 1>This is kind of the crazy part, right She then said,

0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:15.919
<v Speaker 1>So she's in her head, she's like, I'm moving and

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:19.359
<v Speaker 1>we're having kids together soon. Then she said, instead, I

0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 1>received a phone call ending our relationship. I am heartbroken.

0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Deeply sad and if I'm honest, incredibly embarrassed that something

0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I believed in so wholeheartedly didn't work out the way

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I'd hoped. While I respect that everyone has the right

0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:35.439
<v Speaker 1>to choose what's best for them, I also think it's

0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:37.680
<v Speaker 1>important to make sure the facts are clear. And then

0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:39.520
<v Speaker 1>she just went on to thank people for their kindness

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and support.

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<v Speaker 2>A phone call, Yeah, I mean, I.

0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Guess they are in different places, but like ending a

0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.359
<v Speaker 1>relationship where you're about to move in together and have

0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 1>like one of you is like we're having kids together,

0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.040
<v Speaker 1>which is the most permanent thing you could do to

0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:54.440
<v Speaker 1>anyone on the planet. Getting a phone call is I mean,

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:56.639
<v Speaker 1>obviously the thing is, at the time of recording, Philip

0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 1>hasn't posted anything comment and said anything, so we don't

0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:00.880
<v Speaker 1>know here's side of the story, but Stella's been really

0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:02.440
<v Speaker 1>clear about her side.

0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think it's also something to note that

0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 3>they haven't posted it at the same time, because there's

0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.280
<v Speaker 3>definitely a bit of a formula when it comes to

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.399
<v Speaker 3>like posting a breakup for like people who have been

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.520
<v Speaker 3>on reality TV. As someone who's been on reality TV

0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:19.320
<v Speaker 3>myself and I like cringe, but I've posted something like

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.280
<v Speaker 3>this on my stories, but I think.

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 1>No, no, you can't cringe because, like you, when you're

0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:24.720
<v Speaker 1>in the public eye like that, you have to just

0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:26.959
<v Speaker 1>anyone who doesn't know tell say what shows you're on

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and say what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So I was on Love Island Australia and I

0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.080
<v Speaker 3>won with my boyfriend.

0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:35.480
<v Speaker 2>At the time, that feels so weird to say.

0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Hey, you still won. Yeah, and winning is important.

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:38.200
<v Speaker 2>That's true.

0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:39.760
<v Speaker 3>My mom's like, why don't you ask him back for

0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:41.720
<v Speaker 3>the money. I'm like, can't do that, mum, it's gone now.

0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Could you split the prize money? Yeah?

0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, And then I know she is.

0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:50.920
<v Speaker 3>We dated for a couple of months afterwards, and obviously

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 3>there's such an investment in your relationship off the back

0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:56.640
<v Speaker 3>of a dating show.

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, the parasocial relationship.

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.360
<v Speaker 3>That people build because they're kind of on that journey

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 3>from the start of that like love story, and they

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.200
<v Speaker 3>come along with you, and your platform at that point

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.000
<v Speaker 3>is kind of built on that. And I think that's

0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.400
<v Speaker 3>why it's such a shock as well, because up until

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:14.439
<v Speaker 3>the point where people post about their breakup, you pretty

0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:18.200
<v Speaker 3>much look all like rainbows and sunshines up until then,

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.680
<v Speaker 3>so it's always like a shock when suddenly someone's posted

0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 3>like a black Instagram story frame with like five paragraphs

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 3>of what on it you.

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Whenever I say something like that, I'm just like, wow,

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>this is you said it because like this is a

0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 1>breakup post. Yeah, And I kind of like a stand

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:35.679
<v Speaker 1>why fans get so invested, because like they're watching you

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:37.919
<v Speaker 1>on Love Island just as an example, and they're watching

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you fall in love, and like they're watching other couples

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.159
<v Speaker 1>like not get there, and they become very invested, Like

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:43.919
<v Speaker 1>you become a part of their day. It's justly Love

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Island because it's so many episodes, like say We're married

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:48.920
<v Speaker 1>at first Sight, It's so many episodes. It becomes part

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 1>of like the fabric of your day. It's what you

0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>talk to your friends about. And for a lot of people,

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 1>like they get emotional about it. Like I know friends

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 1>who have been like I cried at Love Island. It

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 1>made me want to get back on a dating app,

0:23:58.320 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 1>or it made me want to like break up with

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:01.720
<v Speaker 1>my partner because he wasn't treating me right and I'm

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:03.800
<v Speaker 1>seeing this other relationship. So like it does like it's

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a TV show for entertainment, but these shows get under

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:08.960
<v Speaker 1>people's skin totally in a very intense way.

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's funny just with these breakup posts, like

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 3>I feel like usually they are coordinated with the other person,

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 3>like unless something awful has happened, and even when something

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 3>awful does happen, like I think all breakups are awful,

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 3>and it's never really equal. And I know from my experience,

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.480
<v Speaker 3>we still had enough of a friendship that we kind

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:31.159
<v Speaker 3>of conferred beforehand, Like I knew what he was going

0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:33.440
<v Speaker 3>to say, and he knew what I was going to say,

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 3>so we weren't blithsided, and we both posted them at

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 3>the same time, because I think by doing so, you're

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 3>like giving respect to the other person to both share

0:24:40.840 --> 0:24:42.720
<v Speaker 3>your story at the same time. Otherwise, obviously who have

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 3>a post first usually is on the front foot of

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 3>like the narrative and.

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Right, So when you posted your like public breakup statement

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 1>from Love Island, you sat down and wrote what you

0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted to say, he wrote what he wanted to say,

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and then you confer. I think I even edited his

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.399
<v Speaker 1>great important and then you both post it at the

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:05.959
<v Speaker 1>same time. Yes, and that was done because you wanted

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to control the story but also make sure that people

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't think you were having I.

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.919
<v Speaker 3>Think for me personally, like at that time, I was

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 3>trying to like preserve what I thought was like a friendship.

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's the case for everyone, but

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.359
<v Speaker 3>I assume it is, like you have care for that person,

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 3>you want to preserve it, and some way I look

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:22.400
<v Speaker 3>back now and I'm like, should just go on live

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 3>with the post?

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Actually go one on live and be like, here's some things

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>to say.

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Because it's not necessarily like genuine. I think it is

0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:31.479
<v Speaker 3>a bit of like pr And even for people who

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 3>don't even know that they're like Pring themselves, Like all

0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 3>of the statements are always the same. They always talk

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 3>about how much they like the relationship usually and how

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 3>they have respect for the other person, and thank you

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 3>so much for following our journey. It feels less genuine

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 3>these days. But what's interesting about Stella's because she's kind

0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 3>of just done this like standalone post, it does feel

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.120
<v Speaker 3>like it's a little bit more raw and like an

0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 3>insight into what happened, because usually it's very like we've

0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 3>decided to go out other ways and we know.

0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:00.440
<v Speaker 1>It's best for each other, love each other. Yeah, always

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>have this experience it's almost like a temple. I feel

0:26:02.480 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like I've never had to post a public breakup statement

0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>because I've never been in like a big public relationship.

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>But I haven't found now that I could write one

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 1>to the exact kind of specifications of a PR breakup

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 1>because I've consumed so many of them over the years.

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 2>That's why it makes me cringe just because of that.

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, But I don't think you should cringe

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 1>over it, because there's certain things to follow to not

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 1>only preserve what you're saying behind the scenes, and for

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 1>everyone who says it's just PR, like, you're still human

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>beings at the end of the day, and human beings

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 1>have emotions, and also you don't want to be going

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 1>through a breakup and dealing with huge public backlash if

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>the statement release goes wrong.

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 3>Also, I think another reason why people do it, and

0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 3>why people off the back of reality TV shows may

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 3>need to announce it is because otherwise you're going to

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:49.880
<v Speaker 3>be sent photos.

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 2>From people of your ex with other.

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Girls out on the street, like yeah, you're going to

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 3>get because I started to get things sent to me

0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 3>but we weren't together, like yeah when we actually announced it,

0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 3>because we broke up like a couple weeks prior.

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Then when we were already we like posted the post.

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I've heard on the reality star say that that's why

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>again everything I say comes back to some House my

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 1>one reality show, because it's interesting when Kyle and Amanda,

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:12.959
<v Speaker 1>so they were the big couple that broke up this

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>last season that were part of the scandal. On the

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>last episode of their spin off show In the City,

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>they were talking about the moment they released their breakup statement,

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and they were talking to each other with their big films,

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>so obviously saying it for the camera, and they were saying, like,

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.360
<v Speaker 1>we sat together, we wrote the post together at Amanda's

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>like I uploaded it to both of our accounts because

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 1>she was still looked into his account at the same time,

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>and I pressed send and we held hands and like

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.360
<v Speaker 1>they were like trying to really be like we sent

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 1>it together. And then when Paige Desorbo announced her breakup

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>with Craig Conover, because they were both in the Summer

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.679
<v Speaker 1>House Universe, I remember her saying on her podcast, She's like,

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>he asked me to keep it a secret, and I

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to keep it a secret, but he's now out

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 1>there acting like a single man so with other women,

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>which is again fair enough, but she's like, so people

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.879
<v Speaker 1>are setting me photos of him, and I want to

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>be able to say it's fine, he's single. So I

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of get that there's like a public kind of

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>conversation that you want to control, like any other celebrity

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>wants to control. And I think with Stella this week,

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>like she probably saw the rumors they were breaking up,

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>She saw the fact that they had unfollowed each other,

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>having picked up by media outlets podcast was starting to

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>report on it, and the narrative, as she kind of

0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>alludes to in her post, She's like, just to set

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the record clear, like I was going to move to

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 1>him to start a family, and maybe she saw the

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 1>story bubbling up to be oh, but she wouldn't move

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.120
<v Speaker 1>for him after the show and all those sorts of things,

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>so she wanted to kind of get in and and

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>really kind of control the story. And I guess, like,

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>if you put out a memorable statement, people remember it.

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember what you put in yours statement?

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I have it here?

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>No you do?

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh my god.

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>So I actually haven't seen this because you and I

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't know each other. Back then, when was this? What

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>year was this?

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 2>This is twenty twenty two.

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>So wait, this is your statement from your Love Island brain. Yes,

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two.

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I won't read the whole thing that is longer. It's

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 2>literally I knew.

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 3>Exactly that I did it on the fifty February, which

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.760
<v Speaker 3>is the day after Valentine's Day, because I think I

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 3>had one last brannd deal to post of us together

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 3>on the Valentine's Day.

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm sorry, iconic behavior. No, no, that's amazing.

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I read one line. I put everything I had into

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 2>our relationship.

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 3>I wore my heart on my sleeve, and while I'm

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 3>absolutely shattered, I live with no regrets.

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<v Speaker 2>Regrets regrets.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you spell checking?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? What an incredible and unforgettable journey to share with

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<v Speaker 3>such a special person.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if i'd say that now. Anyway, we

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<v Speaker 2>live and we learn.

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<v Speaker 1>You should now put out a like I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>edit this. I'm going to redact it. I'm going to

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>make some edit, much like Ryan Gosling redoing the poster.

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 3>We could redo your breakup statement. I would love to

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 3>redo it. That just feels too respectful.

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that that should be something that women alone get

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to do is that they get to redo their breakup

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>statement a few years afterwards to tell us what really helped.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do that. Everyone's like, get over it.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the thought going through your mind when you post?

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Were you just like I? Were you alone? Were you

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>with friends? I feel like you'd have to sort of

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>set the scene of how you wanted to be in

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that moment.

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 3>I think we would have been like in comms, like

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 3>I would have been on the phone with him, but

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 3>I drafted mine first, and then he kind of drafted

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:16.719
<v Speaker 3>one that was like very similar, and I just remember,

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 3>like I was so embarrassed at the time because obviously

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 3>everyone was like rooting for us, like I really liked.

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Because I need to be embarrassed. But I understand, Yeah,

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>sometimes breakups in general or embarrassing. Can I say, especially

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 1>as you get older, because now people just look at

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you like, are you sure you're not getting any younger?

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh my god, I know. It's never embarrassing

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to bring no no, and like way more embarrassing to

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>state in a bad relationship exactly.

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:40.719
<v Speaker 3>I feel strongly about that now. But I think just

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 3>like coming off the back of the show and like

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 3>wanting it to work so bad and like having that pressure.

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I can understand where Stella in her statement, you know,

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 3>she said like she feels like a little bit embarrassed

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 3>by it, but you know that like you shouldn't and

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 3>there's no reason to.

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 2>But I think that's like where it came from.

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 3>And like I think it was like clear I didn't

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 3>want to show like how I felt to I don't

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 3>know how to phrase this. I think in Stella's it's

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 3>interesting because she makes so clearly that he broke up

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 3>with her, yes, But in ours it was kind of

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 3>vague as to who broke up with who I got

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 3>broken up with to be clear, Oh.

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Did I say that afterwards or is that?

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know.

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 3>I think people like guessed it from the way they

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 3>were written, like people compared them. But I just like

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 3>didn't want that to be like too exposed because they

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 3>felt embarrassing to me.

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Again, I totally get that. Again, there is nothing embarrassing

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>about it, but I understand, Like again for normal people,

0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>it's embarrassing not having to tell your friends, especially now

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>because everyone has like if you have social media in

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>any context, you have a reputation to kind of like

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>manage in some respect even if you only have like

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>a thousand followers five hundred followers, because you're still posting

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>this cause.

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Normalized that people just everyday people should post breakup announcements

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 3>because I.

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Don't know what's happening. I'm like, why do yeah posts anymore?

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing sometimes if you're a normy and you

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden start posting, this is why I

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>allogally post nothing. It's like I never want to post

0:31:56.680 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a retraction yeah, or a breakup post yeah. Even like

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, like there's someone that you're like,

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>oh that girl I went to UNI with like twenty

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>years ago, she's always posting this guy, and all of

0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 1>a sudden he's gone, and I'm like, did he die?

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>What's happened? Put her and you know, to tell me

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>everything had happened, but like a little information would be great.

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Put out a breakup statement. Normalized normy is putting out

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>breakup stations.

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>We're all entitled to.

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what you get for having a social media

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 3>account exactly.

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>And all of a sudden they pop up with a

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>new guy and I'm like, who is that guy? I'm

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>still I thought you were with your guy, so it's yeah,

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>so I think post a statement. But yeah, it's interesting,

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. But I think also for Stella, like her

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>situation is as you're saying, like she had to jump

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>in kind of do damage control because from the sounds

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>of it, he broke up with her. It was not

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>an amicable kind of a relationship. It doesn't even something

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>like they've had a follow up conversation from the first

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>breakup phone call. And I understand how feeling embarrassed. Again,

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she should be feeling embarrassed. But if

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you were held up as the main love story from

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>this season, if your whole story was blown out to

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>be this big epic romance, and maybe they fought or

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>had like conversations on the show, but like married at

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>First Sight, never really showed them except for a few little,

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, conflicts where they would just like chat it

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.040
<v Speaker 1>out and resolve it. It never showed them having any

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of like they've removed out.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 3>I reckon they had to edit their storyline to be

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 3>this grand romantic love story because there were no other

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 3>couples exactly, we probably didn't see a lot of like

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 3>what it really was like in the day to day.

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, and like those dinner parties were so intense

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and almost like verging on Like all of them them

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>were verbally violent but like aggressive to watch, and I

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>think they were just like people don't really come to

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>this show for the romance, but we need a little

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>bit sprinkled in there, a little bit to make it work.

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's a lot. I'm always so fascinated when

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>like these reality shows end and you're in this heightened

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>environment where your whole life is about each other and

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>you're in these extremes and you go through all these

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.719
<v Speaker 1>relationship milestones so quickly, and then all of a sudden,

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.239
<v Speaker 1>like you're thrust out of that world. You're just in

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the normal world. Like I'm always just like I'm so

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>invested in like what happens in that moment. Yeah, that's

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>crazy to me, And I feel like we don't follow

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>them if like you hear stories of like Bachelor contestants,

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 1>like it's like you've met this guy like five times

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and then he says he loves you, I want to

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>be with you together forever at the being filmed and

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>then you have to fly back to Australia when they

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>used to those big overseas things fly separately, so no

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>one saw you. And then you get to like be

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>put in a house or a hotel together for a

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>couple of days before you go back into hiding. What

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 1>is that moment like when you step into the room,

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the door closes and you're alone for the very first time.

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I would be like, oh my god, I'm freaking out.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Don't touch me.

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, at the final lovel in Australia, we actually didn't

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 3>know who won or anything, because they do three endings.

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 3>But as soon as the production ended, it was so eerie.

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 3>They just like cut the lights off the villa. Suddenly

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 3>we were just around the table, like everyone started packing

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.399
<v Speaker 3>up and leaving, and we actually had to sign like

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 3>some forms that we wouldn't like be spotted with each other,

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:51.320
<v Speaker 3>and we were told that we weren't allowed to stay

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 3>in the rooms with each other after leaving because of

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 3>a safety productle because obviously you don't know this person,

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>and now like for your own safety, they just like

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 3>put you in differ and rooms for that night, which

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 3>everyone like protested against. And then from that we had

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 3>a couple of days with each other where we're in

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 3>a hotel together. But there was a moment I remember

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 3>we sat in a car ride home to the hotel

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 3>from the villa, and I was thinking, what of these

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.439
<v Speaker 3>guys completely not who I think he is and he's

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 3>like a complete.

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Ran like pictures up, No, that could happen again, like

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 1>to have this you only know this person on camera.

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>They're being like you know, produced, and like you're in

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>all these situations you' never be in. I know I'm

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 1>always dying for that moment because I've been on so

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>many reality TV sets where I've like seen it, I've

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>seen a contestants, and I'm always like I want to

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>know what happens in that moment where all the cameras go,

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 1>because that's crazy. So like you were just sitting at

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:41.399
<v Speaker 1>a table and did you like just so like hold

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>hands and kiss and be like I love you.

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 3>It was so like business like it was so strange,

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 3>but like we were fine after that and like everything

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 3>like stayed the same like in that moment. But I

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 3>think it is hard on a show like Love Island

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 3>to be fake unless you're like a psychopath or be

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 3>like a really great actor who should be on a

0:35:58.440 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 3>better show than.

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Not a better show I know a scripted shop, no not.

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 1>But I don't even think in this situation like people

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>are being fake. It's just like it's such a crazy

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:09.280
<v Speaker 1>environment and everything's different and you have so many people

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>around you. It's like, what do you do in that

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 1>moment where you're alone for the first time, and like

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>those days afterwards. I just find that so crazy, and

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why a lot of couples do break

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>up in those months after where they look so happy

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:21.959
<v Speaker 1>in the moment, but you act to real life and.

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 3>It's all I also just think like men getting a

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 3>lot of attention suddenly.

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 2>It's not good for them.

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that I got good for them. Hate that happened

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>on Summer House too, yep, yep. I mean it's like

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 1>West was all over Sierra and when he became famous,

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>they were like he had girls throwing himself at him.

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 3>And it's different because it's like a lot of girls

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 3>and their boyfriends watching like Love Island.

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not like available men.

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, single guys, Yeah, like I'm gonna go get Also,

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that, yeah, it's so different because women watching

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the show and some men. But I think everyone's like

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Tina's so in love, we're rooting for her to stay

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>in love. But then for the guy. You have a

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>bunch of girls who being like not all girls obviously

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 1>feminism and all that, but you know, all of a

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 1>sudden there's a guy who's been on TV and that's

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>very sexy for some people, not for some people. Gives

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>me the ick. Wow. Well, hope Stella is doing okay.

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>As we've said, girl, you're not alone, not me personally,

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>but is with you going through you public breakup is hard,

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I mean at least I mean, I hope

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>she has some sort of I guess see a little

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>comfort of knowing scene that like it's out there in

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the world. Now like that part's done, you know, can

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 1>start to move on from it.

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Let's move on, let's go Sellah.

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thanks so much for listening to the Spill today.

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 3>And if you want entertainment headlines, first thing morning, Tea

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 3>is back in your feed tomorrow at seven am with

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Ash London as she had a very wholesome moment this

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 3>morning that brought our Golden Girl and hath the way

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 3>to tears which got me very in my fields, So

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 3>definitely check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye,