1 00:00:11,189 --> 00:00:13,909 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:14,829 --> 00:00:17,909 Speaker 2: Mom and Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and 3 00:00:17,949 --> 00:00:30,389 Speaker 2: waters that this podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome 4 00:00:30,389 --> 00:00:34,189 Speaker 2: to Canceled. The Lazy Girl's Guide to the ZAR Celebrity Cancelations. 5 00:00:34,349 --> 00:00:38,069 Speaker 2: I'm Claire Stephens and I'm Jesse Stephens. And today's episode 6 00:00:38,389 --> 00:00:42,629 Speaker 2: does not do what I just introduced. Our podcast us shit. Okay, 7 00:00:43,029 --> 00:00:47,069 Speaker 2: it's one where we virtually choose someone who's uncancellable, but 8 00:00:47,189 --> 00:00:49,189 Speaker 2: for the lulls. Actually that's a lie. It kind of 9 00:00:49,189 --> 00:00:50,949 Speaker 2: does go into things that are a bit cancled. I've 10 00:00:50,949 --> 00:00:52,509 Speaker 2: seen him get in trouble. I've seen it and get 11 00:00:52,509 --> 00:00:55,589 Speaker 2: in trouble. He's not untouchable. Well, anyone who's famous is 12 00:00:55,629 --> 00:00:58,989 Speaker 2: being concurrently canceled. Everyone knows that always. But I will 13 00:00:59,029 --> 00:01:02,029 Speaker 2: say it makes me sad that culturally, the people who 14 00:01:02,069 --> 00:01:06,629 Speaker 2: seem uncancellable, that's usually just God for men. Yes, and 15 00:01:06,629 --> 00:01:09,389 Speaker 2: we will say data point, just to put on the 16 00:01:09,389 --> 00:01:11,869 Speaker 2: table here a bit of an insight into the BTS. 17 00:01:11,949 --> 00:01:13,429 Speaker 2: No one ever asked for this, but we love you. 18 00:01:13,469 --> 00:01:17,629 Speaker 2: Hang it. Yeah, yeah, Kerby. Women who are on canceled 19 00:01:17,909 --> 00:01:21,869 Speaker 2: perform better than former, enormously better than men, because women 20 00:01:22,709 --> 00:01:25,269 Speaker 2: allegedly are fun to hate. Yeah, they're a lot more 21 00:01:25,309 --> 00:01:27,589 Speaker 2: fun to hate than we do a man. And everyone's like, eh, 22 00:01:27,909 --> 00:01:31,149 Speaker 2: he seems he just seems fine. He's just doing his best. 23 00:01:32,149 --> 00:01:35,389 Speaker 2: What men are allowed to be complex and eccentric and 24 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:37,909 Speaker 2: fuck up? Yep, but have it still fold into who 25 00:01:37,909 --> 00:01:41,029 Speaker 2: they are as humans. Whereas women people just find them 26 00:01:41,069 --> 00:01:43,709 Speaker 2: a little bit annoying for reasons they can't articulate. That 27 00:01:43,789 --> 00:01:50,629 Speaker 2: reason is usually misogyny. Yes, you are about to enter 28 00:01:50,749 --> 00:01:57,629 Speaker 2: the canceled courtroom. The defendants are celebrities, the chargers are petty. 29 00:01:58,469 --> 00:02:00,269 Speaker 3: The rulings are final. 30 00:02:02,429 --> 00:02:05,629 Speaker 2: Now I have been down an Andrew Garfield rabbit hole. 31 00:02:05,829 --> 00:02:15,229 Speaker 4: I want Andrew Goethor to smash a laptop on my tits. 32 00:02:15,269 --> 00:02:23,389 Speaker 3: Andrew Garfield, you too have a Spice Girl's connection. Didn't 33 00:02:23,549 --> 00:02:27,589 Speaker 3: someone didn't a lovely lady, A lovely lady. Didn't she 34 00:02:27,669 --> 00:02:30,909 Speaker 3: ask you out through the medium of the Spice Girl's music? 35 00:02:31,429 --> 00:02:35,709 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you very much. How did you know that? 36 00:02:35,789 --> 00:02:36,909 Speaker 3: You must have told somebody? 37 00:02:37,549 --> 00:02:42,149 Speaker 4: Only my deeply intimate praise Andrew Garfield is thick and 38 00:02:42,549 --> 00:02:45,349 Speaker 4: woke to the best things to be. If I am 39 00:02:45,389 --> 00:02:48,709 Speaker 4: in fact thick, my God, that's the dream. Because when 40 00:02:48,749 --> 00:02:50,589 Speaker 4: I was a kid, I was I was a streak 41 00:02:50,629 --> 00:02:53,589 Speaker 4: of piss. As you might say, I'm not visibly on 42 00:02:53,669 --> 00:02:57,669 Speaker 4: social media. I have a couple of secret accounts watching 43 00:02:57,709 --> 00:03:02,069 Speaker 4: you all talk your shit. My first kiss, I also 44 00:03:02,189 --> 00:03:05,269 Speaker 4: kissed sixteen other people that same night. 45 00:03:05,429 --> 00:03:08,149 Speaker 2: I like him. It started with his chicken shop dight. 46 00:03:08,309 --> 00:03:11,629 Speaker 2: Did I just friend zone? This is I. 47 00:03:11,549 --> 00:03:14,309 Speaker 4: Shouldn't have done that unless that's what you want. 48 00:03:14,789 --> 00:03:15,749 Speaker 2: No, I don't know what I want. 49 00:03:15,869 --> 00:03:18,829 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm young to know what you want. You have 50 00:03:18,869 --> 00:03:20,389 Speaker 4: my number, do I? 51 00:03:20,989 --> 00:03:24,909 Speaker 2: Yes? I ask for my number at I did, which 52 00:03:24,949 --> 00:03:27,789 Speaker 2: we'll get to. But then there was something deeper. Now, Jesse, 53 00:03:27,949 --> 00:03:31,309 Speaker 2: I host another podcast called but Are You Happy, which 54 00:03:31,349 --> 00:03:34,389 Speaker 2: is very different to this show tone wise, and we 55 00:03:34,469 --> 00:03:39,109 Speaker 2: talk about meaning and purpose and emotions enough, the very 56 00:03:39,349 --> 00:03:43,469 Speaker 2: heavy reality of the human experience, and a few listeners 57 00:03:43,989 --> 00:03:45,869 Speaker 2: we're just going to give but Are You Happier plug 58 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:50,149 Speaker 2: on my watch. Well, a few listeners of that show 59 00:03:50,189 --> 00:03:52,629 Speaker 2: were messaging me being like, you have to listen to 60 00:03:52,829 --> 00:03:55,309 Speaker 2: this podcast with Andrew Garfield. It would be right up 61 00:03:55,309 --> 00:03:57,349 Speaker 2: your alley because I was like, okay, and it's an 62 00:03:57,349 --> 00:04:00,589 Speaker 2: episode of modern love where the idea is that it's 63 00:04:00,709 --> 00:04:03,789 Speaker 2: part interview, part someone reading a modern love essay from 64 00:04:03,789 --> 00:04:06,029 Speaker 2: the New York Times. And I've seen clips of this, 65 00:04:06,109 --> 00:04:09,789 Speaker 2: but I haven't actually watched it. Highly highly recommend. It 66 00:04:09,829 --> 00:04:10,509 Speaker 2: is beautiful. 67 00:04:10,829 --> 00:04:12,949 Speaker 4: My wife hasn't worn a bikini for six years and 68 00:04:12,949 --> 00:04:15,909 Speaker 4: probably never will again. She says she's too old, which 69 00:04:15,949 --> 00:04:18,909 Speaker 4: makes me sad. She's a beautiful woman with gray and 70 00:04:18,949 --> 00:04:22,909 Speaker 4: her hair. My parents no longer drive at night. 71 00:04:23,069 --> 00:04:27,109 Speaker 2: Sorry, when you feel less like giggling and more like 72 00:04:27,149 --> 00:04:30,029 Speaker 2: contemplating the very essence of our existence, go listen to it. 73 00:04:30,269 --> 00:04:34,069 Speaker 2: But I do actually feel quite emotionally connected to Andrew Garfields. 74 00:04:34,109 --> 00:04:38,229 Speaker 2: I'm just putting that on the table. That's an important Yes, 75 00:04:38,349 --> 00:04:40,669 Speaker 2: it's about grief and longing and love and the idea 76 00:04:40,709 --> 00:04:44,069 Speaker 2: of accepting how limited we are email time on Earth. Okay, 77 00:04:44,109 --> 00:04:46,109 Speaker 2: what I'm going to bring right now is id' his 78 00:04:46,109 --> 00:04:49,429 Speaker 2: friends with Jamie DORNERA. Oh what a hot friendship. I 79 00:04:49,469 --> 00:04:52,509 Speaker 2: know he's actually in a really hot friendship group. Yeah, Okay, 80 00:04:52,549 --> 00:04:54,789 Speaker 2: who else I read about it? I feel like he's 81 00:04:55,549 --> 00:04:59,829 Speaker 2: semi friends with Tom Holland, both British, and they both 82 00:04:59,909 --> 00:05:03,349 Speaker 2: played Spider Man. Tom Holand is a little bit younger, 83 00:05:03,509 --> 00:05:05,309 Speaker 2: hang on. Let me find who else, because I just 84 00:05:05,549 --> 00:05:07,949 Speaker 2: Jamie Dornan is another man I connect. I'm looking at 85 00:05:07,949 --> 00:05:10,749 Speaker 2: a photo because everyone says he's got a hot group 86 00:05:10,749 --> 00:05:13,669 Speaker 2: of friends. Jamie Dornan is one of them. I guess 87 00:05:13,709 --> 00:05:17,149 Speaker 2: they're from like the same corner of the world. Not really. 88 00:05:17,789 --> 00:05:24,269 Speaker 2: Andrew Garfield grew up in Surrey, whereas Jamie Dorner. But 89 00:05:24,349 --> 00:05:25,949 Speaker 2: what I am seeing in this picture is that he 90 00:05:26,029 --> 00:05:27,949 Speaker 2: is with Lynn Manuel Miranda, so I'm going to assume 91 00:05:27,949 --> 00:05:31,109 Speaker 2: that very close friends. Yeah, okay, well he's friends with 92 00:05:31,149 --> 00:05:34,349 Speaker 2: Lynn Manuel because he was in Tictic Boom. Anyway, onto 93 00:05:34,349 --> 00:05:37,309 Speaker 2: the Lolls. He was also pictured with bo Burnham. Ah, 94 00:05:37,349 --> 00:05:39,789 Speaker 2: that is on a double date. He's a very hot 95 00:05:39,949 --> 00:05:44,589 Speaker 2: group of men. Andrew Russell Garfield didn't see that coming. No, 96 00:05:45,069 --> 00:05:48,549 Speaker 2: we're all shocked by the Russell is a very sexy boy. 97 00:05:48,749 --> 00:05:51,989 Speaker 2: Speaking of Garfield, we did a thing recently. We played 98 00:05:51,989 --> 00:05:54,309 Speaker 2: this game where everyone had to put a name into 99 00:05:54,349 --> 00:05:55,789 Speaker 2: a hat. Then you had to guess who would put 100 00:05:55,789 --> 00:05:58,389 Speaker 2: it in. So like you might put in Jennifer Lopez, 101 00:05:58,469 --> 00:06:02,029 Speaker 2: or you might put in Anthony Albeneasy, someone put in Garfield. 102 00:06:02,069 --> 00:06:06,069 Speaker 2: Fuck it got me like Garfield the cat. Yeah it 103 00:06:06,109 --> 00:06:08,829 Speaker 2: was so random. Yeah, I could not guess who'd done it. Yeah, 104 00:06:08,909 --> 00:06:11,149 Speaker 2: Garfield like someone I hadn't thought about in a while 105 00:06:11,189 --> 00:06:15,029 Speaker 2: as man as Nandy Say Garfield the Cat, Yes, what 106 00:06:15,229 --> 00:06:19,229 Speaker 2: was Garfield? Was it meant to be funny anyway? Andrew 107 00:06:19,269 --> 00:06:21,989 Speaker 2: Garfields has been in movies like The Social Network, The 108 00:06:22,029 --> 00:06:24,909 Speaker 2: Amazing Spider Man, The Amazing Spider Man Too, where he 109 00:06:24,909 --> 00:06:29,309 Speaker 2: played spider Man Hacksaw Ridge Never Let Me Go, great film. 110 00:06:29,389 --> 00:06:32,069 Speaker 2: He was very young. Tick Tick Boom, which I really 111 00:06:32,069 --> 00:06:33,909 Speaker 2: want to see. So he's a good singer, right, Oh 112 00:06:33,909 --> 00:06:36,589 Speaker 2: he can see the man yea flawless, flawless and tik 113 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:39,229 Speaker 2: tic Boom was directed by Lynn Manuel Miranda. And that's 114 00:06:39,229 --> 00:06:41,509 Speaker 2: who his other friend is. His other friend was in 115 00:06:41,709 --> 00:06:44,829 Speaker 2: Lame Is Eddie Redmain. That's the other whole Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, 116 00:06:44,869 --> 00:06:47,789 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, what a lovely group of men. Garfield became 117 00:06:47,869 --> 00:06:50,149 Speaker 2: interested in acting at the age of sixteen when a 118 00:06:50,149 --> 00:06:53,629 Speaker 2: friend convinced him to take theater studies for his A levels, 119 00:06:53,629 --> 00:06:56,669 Speaker 2: which is the equivalent of like khsa eta as they 120 00:06:56,669 --> 00:06:59,029 Speaker 2: were one student short of being able to run the class. 121 00:06:59,309 --> 00:07:02,069 Speaker 2: And you just know that friend is like I could 122 00:07:02,069 --> 00:07:05,629 Speaker 2: have been Andrew Garfield if I just asked Boris to 123 00:07:05,709 --> 00:07:08,829 Speaker 2: join that class instead, but instead I asked Andrew Garfield. 124 00:07:08,829 --> 00:07:10,389 Speaker 2: You know when you're like he walked in and just 125 00:07:10,509 --> 00:07:14,429 Speaker 2: was a full thespion. Yeah, you know when you're like, hey, hey, Tarlie, 126 00:07:14,429 --> 00:07:16,309 Speaker 2: come join the netball team, and then Tarlie is the 127 00:07:16,349 --> 00:07:17,829 Speaker 2: best person on the netball team and you're like, well 128 00:07:17,829 --> 00:07:22,189 Speaker 2: that wasn't fucked her actually happened. You were meant to 129 00:07:22,229 --> 00:07:24,589 Speaker 2: just be a fill in. Yeah. Yeah, now you're better 130 00:07:24,629 --> 00:07:27,709 Speaker 2: than me, which is not difficult. My structure for today 131 00:07:27,789 --> 00:07:32,429 Speaker 2: is as follows, Spider Man method, acting, a meet, cute 132 00:07:32,469 --> 00:07:35,709 Speaker 2: times too, the most romantic date of all time, and 133 00:07:35,789 --> 00:07:40,389 Speaker 2: the moment the Internet broke spider Man. Andrew Garfield was 134 00:07:40,429 --> 00:07:43,309 Speaker 2: cast as Peter Parker in The Amazing Spider Man Got 135 00:07:43,309 --> 00:07:46,149 Speaker 2: a Knife the real Life. Yes, it's a real knife. 136 00:07:46,189 --> 00:07:49,749 Speaker 2: My weakness it's small knives. Wasn't my Spider Man was 137 00:07:49,789 --> 00:07:53,429 Speaker 2: Troby mcguith. Yes, yes, but I am a big fan 138 00:07:53,829 --> 00:07:57,989 Speaker 2: of every single Spider Man. I think you can't watch 139 00:07:58,029 --> 00:08:00,749 Speaker 2: Spider Man enough. I don't like it's it's a shared 140 00:08:00,749 --> 00:08:03,109 Speaker 2: interest of me and my husband's. Yeah, I feel like 141 00:08:03,189 --> 00:08:06,269 Speaker 2: it's a bit one. No, like you get bit by 142 00:08:06,389 --> 00:08:09,469 Speaker 2: spider and it stresses me out having your web No, 143 00:08:09,709 --> 00:08:11,589 Speaker 2: and then you do the web thing and it sticks 144 00:08:11,669 --> 00:08:14,709 Speaker 2: to places. Yeah, and then you just Spider Man. You 145 00:08:14,789 --> 00:08:16,549 Speaker 2: save things, and you go up against a goblin like 146 00:08:16,589 --> 00:08:19,909 Speaker 2: I just feel as though some pace. Sometimes there's an 147 00:08:19,909 --> 00:08:22,589 Speaker 2: Emma stone, Sometimes there's a cursed in Dunce. Sometimes there's 148 00:08:22,629 --> 00:08:25,709 Speaker 2: a Zendaya you just never know. Was his stone. And 149 00:08:25,749 --> 00:08:27,349 Speaker 2: they fell in love, I thought so. And they dated 150 00:08:27,389 --> 00:08:30,429 Speaker 2: for years. Yeah, they were together for quite a while, 151 00:08:30,469 --> 00:08:32,629 Speaker 2: and they're a bit on and off. But even last 152 00:08:32,709 --> 00:08:35,589 Speaker 2: year he went to the premiere of Poor Things, and 153 00:08:35,629 --> 00:08:37,589 Speaker 2: there's a video of the moment she spots him in 154 00:08:37,589 --> 00:08:39,629 Speaker 2: the audience and is really excited. Okay, she's married with 155 00:08:39,629 --> 00:08:41,749 Speaker 2: a child. To continue, Well, I'm just saying that they're 156 00:08:41,749 --> 00:08:44,069 Speaker 2: still on good terms. So what does that say? AnyWho? 157 00:08:44,309 --> 00:08:47,589 Speaker 2: He said many times that he had worn Spider Man 158 00:08:47,669 --> 00:08:50,869 Speaker 2: costumes when he was three, and he studied the movements 159 00:08:50,869 --> 00:08:53,189 Speaker 2: of athletes and spiders to get into the part and 160 00:08:53,229 --> 00:08:57,189 Speaker 2: did yoga and polates. That first movie well received. Things 161 00:08:57,229 --> 00:08:58,989 Speaker 2: are looking great. He's meant to be in like a 162 00:08:59,069 --> 00:09:01,549 Speaker 2: slew of Spider Man movies, right, He's meant to be 163 00:09:01,549 --> 00:09:04,189 Speaker 2: the next Spider Man after Toby McGuire. I love the 164 00:09:04,269 --> 00:09:07,989 Speaker 2: visual of him studying spiders just in a gutter, just 165 00:09:08,029 --> 00:09:11,229 Speaker 2: crouching in a scudder. Look at this and then it's firing. 166 00:09:11,549 --> 00:09:14,229 Speaker 2: But you know it's just sitting there or scurrying, which 167 00:09:14,269 --> 00:09:17,109 Speaker 2: I know how you No, does that that is that 168 00:09:17,189 --> 00:09:20,189 Speaker 2: helping your practice? I don't think so. Then the Amazing 169 00:09:20,229 --> 00:09:23,749 Speaker 2: Spider Man two comes out in twenty fourteen, and it's 170 00:09:23,749 --> 00:09:26,829 Speaker 2: got mixed critical reviews, and while it does very well 171 00:09:26,869 --> 00:09:30,589 Speaker 2: at the box office, in terms of the franchise, it's 172 00:09:30,589 --> 00:09:33,989 Speaker 2: like a box office low Okay, Yeah, so Spider Man 173 00:09:34,029 --> 00:09:37,109 Speaker 2: is low West, it's just not one of the lowest. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 174 00:09:37,189 --> 00:09:42,189 Speaker 2: So it's not Kirston Duns and Toby maguire kissing upside down. No, no, no, no. Now. 175 00:09:42,229 --> 00:09:44,949 Speaker 2: He was meant to be in future installments of Spider Man. Yeah, 176 00:09:44,949 --> 00:09:47,909 Speaker 2: but they went in a different direction casting Tom Holland. 177 00:09:48,069 --> 00:09:52,149 Speaker 2: Oh I think I've seen a Tom Holland. Yeah, Spider Man. Yeah. Zendaya. 178 00:09:52,549 --> 00:09:56,029 Speaker 2: Now you might remember the infamous Sony hack of twenty 179 00:09:56,029 --> 00:09:58,309 Speaker 2: fourteen where they leaked a whole bunch of emails. 180 00:09:58,389 --> 00:09:58,549 Speaker 4: Yep. 181 00:09:58,869 --> 00:10:03,069 Speaker 2: Well, the then head of Sony was mad at Andrew 182 00:10:03,109 --> 00:10:05,989 Speaker 2: Garfield because he didn't turn up for an event in 183 00:10:06,029 --> 00:10:09,069 Speaker 2: Brazil where the Amazing Spider Man three was meant to 184 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:13,029 Speaker 2: be announced because he was sick. The email read here, 185 00:10:13,069 --> 00:10:16,469 Speaker 2: we are about one hour away from our gala, and 186 00:10:16,469 --> 00:10:19,229 Speaker 2: Andrew decides he doesn't want to attend. He has a 187 00:10:19,349 --> 00:10:22,069 Speaker 2: rather scruffy beard and he just wants to be left alone. 188 00:10:22,349 --> 00:10:25,149 Speaker 2: So that email got leaked by the head of Signy sick. 189 00:10:25,229 --> 00:10:27,869 Speaker 2: He's sick, the man leave the bead alone. I know 190 00:10:27,989 --> 00:10:30,509 Speaker 2: I have to say when my husband, when my husband 191 00:10:30,549 --> 00:10:33,229 Speaker 2: isn't well, he looks awful. I've always said it about 192 00:10:33,269 --> 00:10:37,589 Speaker 2: your husband. He does not wear sickness or tiredness. 193 00:10:37,589 --> 00:10:37,789 Speaker 4: Well. 194 00:10:37,909 --> 00:10:41,229 Speaker 2: No, no. In a twenty sixteen interview with The Guardian, 195 00:10:41,589 --> 00:10:44,149 Speaker 2: Garfield was asked if he was fired from the role 196 00:10:44,389 --> 00:10:47,309 Speaker 2: after that after being a bit naughty and not coming 197 00:10:47,309 --> 00:10:49,469 Speaker 2: to the Brazil and he said no, I don't think so. 198 00:10:49,989 --> 00:10:52,589 Speaker 2: What I'll proudly say is that I didn't compromise who 199 00:10:52,669 --> 00:10:55,349 Speaker 2: I was. I was only over myself and that might 200 00:10:55,389 --> 00:10:57,669 Speaker 2: have been difficult for some people. We ain't yourself. You're 201 00:10:57,709 --> 00:11:03,469 Speaker 2: a spider yeah, win, he told The Daily Beast in 202 00:11:03,509 --> 00:11:06,709 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. I think what happened was through the pre production, 203 00:11:06,829 --> 00:11:09,749 Speaker 2: production and post production. When you have something that works 204 00:11:09,749 --> 00:11:12,909 Speaker 2: as a whole and then you start removing portions of it, 205 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:15,309 Speaker 2: because there was even more of it than was in 206 00:11:15,349 --> 00:11:18,509 Speaker 2: the final cut, and everything was related. I have no 207 00:11:18,589 --> 00:11:22,509 Speaker 2: idea what, but you're sounding very Demota Johnson on Madam 208 00:11:22,509 --> 00:11:29,069 Speaker 2: Webb and the through LINEID Spider Movies, Spider Movies send 209 00:11:29,109 --> 00:11:31,789 Speaker 2: us bit cuckoo. Yeah, he said, once you start removing 210 00:11:31,789 --> 00:11:34,229 Speaker 2: things and saying no, that doesn't work, then the thread 211 00:11:34,349 --> 00:11:37,069 Speaker 2: is broken. It's very syry. Yeah, and it's hard to 212 00:11:37,069 --> 00:11:38,989 Speaker 2: go with the flow of the story. What he was 213 00:11:39,029 --> 00:11:41,789 Speaker 2: saying he was making a comment on the creative process, right, 214 00:11:42,069 --> 00:11:44,989 Speaker 2: which is, you've got this great story, Spider Man, how 215 00:11:44,989 --> 00:11:46,789 Speaker 2: can it go wrong? Yeah? And I think he's trying 216 00:11:46,789 --> 00:11:50,549 Speaker 2: to say, throughout the production process it can go wrong. 217 00:11:50,669 --> 00:11:54,229 Speaker 2: We've got some plot holes, we've got some weirdness. Yeah. 218 00:11:54,269 --> 00:11:57,469 Speaker 2: And maybe he's saying the amazing Spider Man two was 219 00:11:57,509 --> 00:12:00,549 Speaker 2: not a work of art. Do we think Spider Man's done? 220 00:12:00,709 --> 00:12:04,109 Speaker 2: Absolutely No, which I will get to. I feel as 221 00:12:04,229 --> 00:12:06,269 Speaker 2: though you always think it's done and then there's a 222 00:12:06,309 --> 00:12:07,669 Speaker 2: new Spider Man and then you go to see it 223 00:12:07,669 --> 00:12:11,189 Speaker 2: at the movies, and it is excellent. It is highly entertained. 224 00:12:12,549 --> 00:12:15,829 Speaker 2: In one of Variety's Actors on Actors sessions, he admitted 225 00:12:15,829 --> 00:12:19,629 Speaker 2: that he was heartbroken by the experience of not getting 226 00:12:19,629 --> 00:12:22,669 Speaker 2: cast in future Spider Man's I don't think he's Spidery. 227 00:12:23,349 --> 00:12:26,189 Speaker 2: I look at Toby Maguire Spidery. I look at Tom 228 00:12:26,189 --> 00:12:31,349 Speaker 2: Holland Spidery, then Andrew Garfield, and maybe it's because I'm 229 00:12:31,389 --> 00:12:34,949 Speaker 2: thinking of the cat, but he's more catty. Well, this 230 00:12:35,069 --> 00:12:39,349 Speaker 2: was actually criticism. People said he was too hot, he's 231 00:12:39,389 --> 00:12:43,429 Speaker 2: too too he's a bit snaky, he's long and he's thin, 232 00:12:43,949 --> 00:12:48,789 Speaker 2: and that's not what Spider Man is. Okay, I disagree, 233 00:12:49,149 --> 00:12:52,989 Speaker 2: but it is a criticism. He told Amy Adams. I 234 00:12:53,069 --> 00:12:55,389 Speaker 2: signed up to serve the story and serve this incredible 235 00:12:55,469 --> 00:12:58,349 Speaker 2: character that I've been dressing as since I was three, 236 00:12:58,549 --> 00:13:00,549 Speaker 2: and then it gets compromised and it breaks your heart. 237 00:13:00,629 --> 00:13:03,749 Speaker 2: I got heartbroken a little bit. Tom Holland, who took 238 00:13:03,789 --> 00:13:07,229 Speaker 2: over the role, has since said that he regrets not 239 00:13:07,429 --> 00:13:10,749 Speaker 2: calling Garfield after being named as the new Spider Man. 240 00:13:11,269 --> 00:13:13,269 Speaker 2: And what I love about this story is that if 241 00:13:13,349 --> 00:13:16,709 Speaker 2: this were women a bitch fight, there'd be a cat 242 00:13:16,749 --> 00:13:20,069 Speaker 2: fight and it would be sex in the city, who 243 00:13:20,189 --> 00:13:22,989 Speaker 2: hates who you took her role? Blah blah blah. But 244 00:13:23,029 --> 00:13:27,109 Speaker 2: because it's men, we allow them the dignity. Yeah, of 245 00:13:27,349 --> 00:13:31,029 Speaker 2: peace and privacy, yes, Tom holand what they are all adults, 246 00:13:31,069 --> 00:13:34,189 Speaker 2: all they are all adults, and sometimes life goes this way. Yeah, 247 00:13:34,589 --> 00:13:36,269 Speaker 2: no drama there. I just need to have a chat. 248 00:13:36,469 --> 00:13:39,309 Speaker 2: I will, They'll move on. Kim Catrell, on the other hand, 249 00:13:39,949 --> 00:13:44,549 Speaker 2: absolute bit. Not really, not really. Tom Holland said, I 250 00:13:44,629 --> 00:13:46,629 Speaker 2: was nineteen when I got cast. I was so caught 251 00:13:46,669 --> 00:13:48,389 Speaker 2: up in getting the role that I never took any 252 00:13:48,389 --> 00:13:50,109 Speaker 2: time to think about what it must have been like 253 00:13:50,149 --> 00:13:53,069 Speaker 2: for him. If I'd made my second movie and it 254 00:13:53,109 --> 00:13:55,469 Speaker 2: didn't necessarily deliver in the way it should have done, 255 00:13:55,509 --> 00:13:58,229 Speaker 2: and they recast me, I would really struggle to bounce back. 256 00:13:58,429 --> 00:14:01,029 Speaker 2: Andrew bounce back in the most unbelievable way. I just 257 00:14:01,069 --> 00:14:03,229 Speaker 2: wish I'd called him and said, you know, I can't 258 00:14:03,309 --> 00:14:07,709 Speaker 2: turn down this opportunity. Man wasn't a believable spider crime. 259 00:14:07,749 --> 00:14:12,149 Speaker 2: He river, He's got more opportunities. It's fine, He's fine. 260 00:14:12,629 --> 00:14:16,709 Speaker 2: And of course, Dobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland 261 00:14:16,869 --> 00:14:20,709 Speaker 2: all united for Spider Man No Way Home in twenty 262 00:14:21,229 --> 00:14:23,389 Speaker 2: film which you have you not seen it. 263 00:14:24,629 --> 00:14:30,229 Speaker 1: I'm Peter Parker. I am Spider Man in my world. 264 00:14:30,309 --> 00:14:36,109 Speaker 1: But then yesterday I was I was just hearing Jesse. 265 00:14:36,229 --> 00:14:40,349 Speaker 2: You don't go and see spider films that lou standing cinema. 266 00:14:40,389 --> 00:14:43,749 Speaker 2: The scene, how how can they all coexist? Because there 267 00:14:43,749 --> 00:14:46,549 Speaker 2: were different universites. It was the multiverse. They're in a 268 00:14:46,669 --> 00:14:49,309 Speaker 2: room and the three of them addressed spiders. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, 269 00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:52,629 Speaker 2: And it's so funny and they're doing They're funny the thing. Yeah, 270 00:14:52,669 --> 00:14:56,309 Speaker 2: and it's super meta and self for a factional No, no, 271 00:14:56,429 --> 00:14:59,549 Speaker 2: it's really funny having the three of them. Okay, okay, 272 00:14:59,669 --> 00:15:02,709 Speaker 2: sounds finn. The dynamic was great. I think in those 273 00:15:02,749 --> 00:15:04,749 Speaker 2: films sometimes you can see in the eyes of the 274 00:15:04,789 --> 00:15:07,709 Speaker 2: people playing the characters in this film, not Spider I 275 00:15:07,749 --> 00:15:10,669 Speaker 2: saw a movie recently with some superhero I had to 276 00:15:10,709 --> 00:15:13,229 Speaker 2: watch it, the look in Paul Rudd's eyes. Oh, we 277 00:15:13,789 --> 00:15:18,749 Speaker 2: sold out. It's the end of his tether. Yeah. No, 278 00:15:18,869 --> 00:15:24,069 Speaker 2: but Spider Man, different story. Friends, We are doing a 279 00:15:24,149 --> 00:15:27,869 Speaker 2: live event canceled live at the University of Sydney. You 280 00:15:27,949 --> 00:15:31,149 Speaker 2: can come and see us in Real Life at the 281 00:15:31,189 --> 00:15:36,389 Speaker 2: Alumni Festival the University of Sydney on Saturday, November the thirtieth. 282 00:15:36,669 --> 00:15:39,709 Speaker 2: The event is free, but you have to register for tickets, 283 00:15:39,829 --> 00:15:41,869 Speaker 2: so we'll pop a link in our show notes for 284 00:15:41,989 --> 00:15:45,069 Speaker 2: that is just so lazy girl that we don't expect 285 00:15:45,149 --> 00:15:48,069 Speaker 2: you to pay. We would never know. Well, we shouldn't 286 00:15:48,069 --> 00:15:50,029 Speaker 2: say never, because one day we might like to profit, 287 00:15:50,229 --> 00:15:52,669 Speaker 2: but not now. Today is not that day. I think 288 00:15:52,669 --> 00:15:55,349 Speaker 2: it's going to be quite a almost an emotional event 289 00:15:55,389 --> 00:15:57,309 Speaker 2: because you and I both went. The last time we're 290 00:15:57,309 --> 00:15:59,909 Speaker 2: at Sidney UNI was when we were at Sydney UNI. Yeah, 291 00:16:00,269 --> 00:16:03,349 Speaker 2: what was when I was graduating. We were studying there. Yeah, 292 00:16:03,389 --> 00:16:06,469 Speaker 2: we're doing all of our courses in celebrities. Yeah, we 293 00:16:06,509 --> 00:16:09,829 Speaker 2: studied a degree in pop culture cancelations. We did, and 294 00:16:09,869 --> 00:16:13,069 Speaker 2: they offer that they don't. It's not off very good degrees. 295 00:16:13,229 --> 00:16:15,709 Speaker 2: There are a bunch of other events happening across the day. 296 00:16:16,149 --> 00:16:18,989 Speaker 2: They're not just putting the festival on for us. Oh 297 00:16:19,189 --> 00:16:22,069 Speaker 2: they might be. You would we call ourselves headliners? No, 298 00:16:22,189 --> 00:16:25,709 Speaker 2: because doctor Carl's going to be there, Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, 299 00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:30,029 Speaker 2: there are some brilliant events on. Go and have a look. 300 00:16:30,189 --> 00:16:34,429 Speaker 2: It is university of Sydney, November the thirtieth, See you There, 301 00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:50,909 Speaker 2: method acting. The man is a fan of method acting, 302 00:16:51,989 --> 00:16:55,349 Speaker 2: and he's got in trouble before for playing into stereotypes 303 00:16:55,549 --> 00:16:59,149 Speaker 2: when he's going method. In twenty seventeen, he was cast 304 00:16:59,189 --> 00:17:02,389 Speaker 2: as Prior Walter in the play Angels in America at 305 00:17:02,429 --> 00:17:06,109 Speaker 2: the National Theater in London. He was nominated for the 306 00:17:06,269 --> 00:17:10,069 Speaker 2: Lawrence Olivier Award for the role, but there was controversy 307 00:17:10,589 --> 00:17:14,309 Speaker 2: because his character is a gay man with aids and 308 00:17:14,349 --> 00:17:17,389 Speaker 2: Garfield is a straight man. He was criticized for taking 309 00:17:17,389 --> 00:17:19,709 Speaker 2: the role when people said it should have gone to 310 00:17:19,789 --> 00:17:23,949 Speaker 2: a member of the lgbt QI community. Was Matthew McConaughey 311 00:17:23,989 --> 00:17:27,109 Speaker 2: criticized for Dallas bias class I think so it wasn't 312 00:17:27,189 --> 00:17:28,829 Speaker 2: very loud. Maybe it was just a different time, at 313 00:17:28,829 --> 00:17:32,869 Speaker 2: a different time, and that criticism snowballed when Garfield was 314 00:17:32,989 --> 00:17:35,589 Speaker 2: asked how he prepared for the role, and in an 315 00:17:35,669 --> 00:17:40,069 Speaker 2: interview he said he'd watched documentaries, He'd done all this research, 316 00:17:40,389 --> 00:17:43,309 Speaker 2: and then he said he had watched every episode of 317 00:17:43,389 --> 00:17:46,629 Speaker 2: RuPaul's Drag Race and he said every Sunday I would 318 00:17:46,669 --> 00:17:49,349 Speaker 2: have eight friends over and we would watch rue. That's 319 00:17:49,389 --> 00:17:51,949 Speaker 2: my life outside of this play. I'm a gay man 320 00:17:52,069 --> 00:17:55,429 Speaker 2: right now, just without the physical act. That's all. A 321 00:17:55,469 --> 00:17:58,509 Speaker 2: lot of people in the lgbt QI community were like, 322 00:17:58,789 --> 00:18:02,029 Speaker 2: it's not about RuPaul, it's not about RuPaul. And I 323 00:18:02,109 --> 00:18:05,909 Speaker 2: will say that the lived experience of being a gay man, 324 00:18:05,949 --> 00:18:08,229 Speaker 2: of walking down the street holding hands with your boyfriend, 325 00:18:08,269 --> 00:18:11,629 Speaker 2: even in the most progressive countries in the world, it 326 00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:14,069 Speaker 2: can be really dangerous. I don't think I know any 327 00:18:14,109 --> 00:18:17,309 Speaker 2: gay man who hasn't experienced homophobia. I will say, I 328 00:18:17,389 --> 00:18:19,509 Speaker 2: do not know a gay man who has not watched 329 00:18:19,949 --> 00:18:22,949 Speaker 2: RuPaul's drive. I know, and that is two things can 330 00:18:22,989 --> 00:18:26,069 Speaker 2: be true. It's art, yes, now they did say it's 331 00:18:26,149 --> 00:18:28,909 Speaker 2: quite a reductive way to look at our identity. But 332 00:18:29,189 --> 00:18:33,189 Speaker 2: in an article in The Guardian, a journalist argued it's 333 00:18:33,189 --> 00:18:36,349 Speaker 2: not quite as bad as it sounds, because Garfield was 334 00:18:36,349 --> 00:18:38,789 Speaker 2: saying that in the context of saying that when he 335 00:18:38,869 --> 00:18:41,429 Speaker 2: was offered the role, he struggled with the fact that 336 00:18:41,469 --> 00:18:45,549 Speaker 2: he felt like he had no right to play that character, 337 00:18:45,989 --> 00:18:50,349 Speaker 2: and he clearly wasn't ignorant of what he was doing, 338 00:18:50,469 --> 00:18:54,429 Speaker 2: and he did a whole lot of research. He also 339 00:18:54,509 --> 00:19:00,469 Speaker 2: played a Jesuit priest in a twenty sixteen movie called Silence, 340 00:19:00,549 --> 00:19:04,229 Speaker 2: and he did all this research and learned about the 341 00:19:04,309 --> 00:19:07,829 Speaker 2: Jesuit lifestyle. So his idea of method is obviously not 342 00:19:07,989 --> 00:19:10,869 Speaker 2: like you and Jim Carrey. It's not Jim carry It's 343 00:19:10,949 --> 00:19:13,469 Speaker 2: just like you do a whole lot of research so 344 00:19:13,509 --> 00:19:15,549 Speaker 2: that you really feel like you know the character. Oh, 345 00:19:15,629 --> 00:19:19,149 Speaker 2: that's not method, that's just research. Well, he says, there 346 00:19:19,149 --> 00:19:22,069 Speaker 2: have been a lot of misconceptions about what method acting is. 347 00:19:22,549 --> 00:19:25,389 Speaker 2: He said, it's not about being an asshole to everyone 348 00:19:25,429 --> 00:19:29,989 Speaker 2: on set. Is actually about living truthfully under imagined circumstances 349 00:19:30,229 --> 00:19:32,749 Speaker 2: and being really nice to the crew simultaneously and being 350 00:19:32,789 --> 00:19:35,269 Speaker 2: a normal human being and being able to drop it 351 00:19:35,309 --> 00:19:37,869 Speaker 2: when you need to and staying in it when you 352 00:19:37,909 --> 00:19:40,669 Speaker 2: want to tell Jared that. Well, he said, I'm kind 353 00:19:40,669 --> 00:19:43,989 Speaker 2: of bothered by the misconception. I'm bothered by this idea 354 00:19:44,069 --> 00:19:47,549 Speaker 2: that method acting is fucking bullshit. Why did you go 355 00:19:47,629 --> 00:19:49,869 Speaker 2: on this round about method acting because he met Jim 356 00:19:49,909 --> 00:19:55,189 Speaker 2: Carrey of Robert pat who's one of his friends. Yeah, 357 00:19:55,189 --> 00:19:58,309 Speaker 2: but Robert Pattinson was being really dirty on method acting, 358 00:19:58,589 --> 00:20:01,909 Speaker 2: was he? Yes, so Pattinson, who has also tried and 359 00:20:01,949 --> 00:20:06,669 Speaker 2: practiced this technique cla when I read about the Guy Gang. Yeah, 360 00:20:06,829 --> 00:20:09,109 Speaker 2: I'm putting it together. It was Jamie Donnan, it was 361 00:20:09,229 --> 00:20:12,269 Speaker 2: Eddie Redmain, and it Robert patters Well, which surprised me. 362 00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:16,349 Speaker 2: He was the one who said actors try this approach 363 00:20:16,429 --> 00:20:21,389 Speaker 2: when portraying asshole characters. And he's not wrong though. No, 364 00:20:21,469 --> 00:20:24,509 Speaker 2: he said, I always say about people who do method acting, 365 00:20:24,869 --> 00:20:27,909 Speaker 2: you only ever see people do the method when they're 366 00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:31,069 Speaker 2: playing assholes. True. I need to know when you're on 367 00:20:31,149 --> 00:20:33,509 Speaker 2: stage and when you're off stage. I need to know 368 00:20:33,589 --> 00:20:36,789 Speaker 2: that between action and cut. That's the thing, that's the 369 00:20:36,829 --> 00:20:40,509 Speaker 2: safe space. I need to know there's a cut coming 370 00:20:40,509 --> 00:20:42,869 Speaker 2: and then I'll feel safe. It just feels like you 371 00:20:42,909 --> 00:20:45,949 Speaker 2: can't get out. That's when you go crazy. I think 372 00:20:45,989 --> 00:20:49,069 Speaker 2: that these two men are in agreement. Yeah, probably probably 373 00:20:49,269 --> 00:20:51,229 Speaker 2: if we had on the podcast. So we've done Jim Carrey, 374 00:20:51,709 --> 00:20:54,709 Speaker 2: Jared Leto, Yeah, both method actors. I think Leo goes 375 00:20:54,749 --> 00:21:00,589 Speaker 2: a little bit method. Who was Stany Dow Yes, he 376 00:21:00,629 --> 00:21:04,309 Speaker 2: went stanky. Yeah. And then Joaquin Phoenix is also known 377 00:21:04,349 --> 00:21:05,829 Speaker 2: as a method actor. I thought we haven't done him 378 00:21:05,829 --> 00:21:07,669 Speaker 2: on the show before, but maybe we will because there 379 00:21:07,709 --> 00:21:12,789 Speaker 2: was that stunt hunt that I don't think anyone understands, 380 00:21:12,829 --> 00:21:16,149 Speaker 2: including him. Just think we thought we'd understand it later 381 00:21:16,229 --> 00:21:18,709 Speaker 2: and we don't know. Moving on to why we're all 382 00:21:18,749 --> 00:21:22,349 Speaker 2: here and meet cute times too, Finally we get to 383 00:21:22,349 --> 00:21:26,789 Speaker 2: talk about Amelia de Moldenburg and Andrew Garfield. Now, for 384 00:21:26,869 --> 00:21:30,269 Speaker 2: those unaware, Amelia de Moldenberg is a British comedian who 385 00:21:30,349 --> 00:21:33,189 Speaker 2: is the creator and host of the web series Chicken 386 00:21:33,229 --> 00:21:35,669 Speaker 2: Shop Date. She's been doing for ten years. She has 387 00:21:35,829 --> 00:21:39,669 Speaker 2: During the dates, she interviews celebrities in fried chicken restaurants 388 00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:42,949 Speaker 2: with her very specific style of humor, and the idea 389 00:21:43,149 --> 00:21:46,229 Speaker 2: is that they are interviews framed as dates. She is 390 00:21:46,309 --> 00:21:49,389 Speaker 2: known for asking bizarre questions and leaning into the awkwardness 391 00:21:49,589 --> 00:21:53,669 Speaker 2: of these interactions. Because of the viral success of Chicken 392 00:21:53,669 --> 00:21:56,709 Speaker 2: Shop Date, she's interviewed people like Jennifer Lawrence, Paul Mescal, 393 00:21:57,389 --> 00:22:01,669 Speaker 2: Lewis Capaldi, Phoebe Bridges, and she's done presenting work on 394 00:22:01,709 --> 00:22:05,629 Speaker 2: red carpets and during one of those red carpet events, 395 00:22:05,909 --> 00:22:09,629 Speaker 2: she met a certain Andrew Garfield. Have you seen this video? 396 00:22:10,269 --> 00:22:13,589 Speaker 2: Have I seen this video? Yes? Well? In an interview 397 00:22:13,629 --> 00:22:17,669 Speaker 2: for British JQ, she interviews Garfield and she is very 398 00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:20,509 Speaker 2: surprised and excited when he knows who she is. 399 00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:26,669 Speaker 1: You're great. You're kidding me, sho. 400 00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:29,589 Speaker 2: I've been trying to get a date with you for 401 00:22:29,989 --> 00:22:34,749 Speaker 2: I have not I'm asking you out right now. She 402 00:22:34,949 --> 00:22:38,029 Speaker 2: says he looks good, and he says she looks beautiful. 403 00:22:39,109 --> 00:22:40,709 Speaker 2: You just take the compiment. 404 00:22:43,069 --> 00:22:49,189 Speaker 4: Yes, it's dress, but it's like kind of leather rope, 405 00:22:49,189 --> 00:22:51,549 Speaker 4: it's made of rubber robber. Wow. 406 00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:54,509 Speaker 2: Okay. As he's leaving, he's like, lovely to meet you, 407 00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:57,109 Speaker 2: and then he kind of hovers and he says, seriously 408 00:22:57,629 --> 00:22:59,909 Speaker 2: lovely to meet you. Yeah, I've never seen more chemistry 409 00:22:59,949 --> 00:23:02,709 Speaker 2: between her because he says lovely to meet you. Because 410 00:23:02,709 --> 00:23:05,549 Speaker 2: it's weird what you do. Weird is in good and 411 00:23:05,589 --> 00:23:08,389 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. 412 00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:12,349 Speaker 4: No, brilliant, because it's weird you do. It's weird as 413 00:23:12,389 --> 00:23:16,349 Speaker 4: in good, very specific and unique, and. 414 00:23:17,869 --> 00:23:23,989 Speaker 2: I appreciate. I appreciate you. Enjoy bye, see ya. That 415 00:23:24,109 --> 00:23:28,149 Speaker 2: is compliment. If somebody looked at me and said it's weird, 416 00:23:28,429 --> 00:23:30,749 Speaker 2: you're weird and I like it, I'd be like, I 417 00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:33,429 Speaker 2: feel so seen, I feel seen. I feel like I'm 418 00:23:33,429 --> 00:23:36,269 Speaker 2: finally understood. Yeah, it is. It is what she does. 419 00:23:36,349 --> 00:23:38,149 Speaker 2: It is very weird what she does you know the 420 00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:39,989 Speaker 2: other thing? The reason I feel think it's weird what 421 00:23:40,029 --> 00:23:43,029 Speaker 2: we do, it is, it is what we do. It's 422 00:23:43,069 --> 00:23:45,989 Speaker 2: weird what he does. Yeah, it is weird what he does. 423 00:23:46,229 --> 00:23:47,749 Speaker 2: What's the hardest thing you've ever gone through? I was 424 00:23:47,789 --> 00:23:51,389 Speaker 2: a bad spider. Yeah weird. No one understands. Yeah, no 425 00:23:51,429 --> 00:23:54,789 Speaker 2: one understands. They vibed and the chemistry was there. Then 426 00:23:55,549 --> 00:23:58,309 Speaker 2: they see each other at the Golden Globes and they're 427 00:23:58,349 --> 00:24:01,669 Speaker 2: giggling straight away. There's this moment of recognition and she, 428 00:24:01,669 --> 00:24:05,869 Speaker 2: she very rarely breaks breaks around him. Yeah, she breaks 429 00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:08,509 Speaker 2: around and she sees him, and he has a joke 430 00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:11,069 Speaker 2: about like, oh, you saw me in like winced and 431 00:24:11,149 --> 00:24:13,269 Speaker 2: she's like, no, I didn't, I saw it. Like She's 432 00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:16,789 Speaker 2: like yeah. Now she says, we must stop meeting like this, 433 00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:19,189 Speaker 2: and he says, I only ever. 434 00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:19,709 Speaker 4: Want to see you. 435 00:24:22,429 --> 00:24:22,829 Speaker 2: That's what. 436 00:24:26,389 --> 00:24:28,709 Speaker 4: I don't ever want to see you in these kinds 437 00:24:28,749 --> 00:24:29,549 Speaker 4: of situations. 438 00:24:29,549 --> 00:24:32,749 Speaker 2: What about other kind of situations? Not interested? Actual sense. 439 00:24:33,189 --> 00:24:35,109 Speaker 2: I was going to write to my birthday party, where's 440 00:24:35,149 --> 00:24:41,989 Speaker 2: your birthday party? That's your the January. Actually I'm an Aparius, that's. 441 00:24:41,829 --> 00:24:45,589 Speaker 4: Your If you have a sun sign, that's the same 442 00:24:45,629 --> 00:24:46,829 Speaker 4: as the moon sign as someone else. 443 00:24:48,069 --> 00:24:50,429 Speaker 2: It's not good. No, it's good. That was good. Why 444 00:24:50,509 --> 00:24:51,069 Speaker 2: is an issue? 445 00:24:51,109 --> 00:24:54,109 Speaker 4: Well, because I don't I don't think we should explore this. 446 00:24:54,469 --> 00:24:56,229 Speaker 2: Okay, well I'm not even asking. 447 00:24:55,949 --> 00:24:57,949 Speaker 4: To you, I know, but I'm just like, you want 448 00:24:57,989 --> 00:24:59,389 Speaker 4: to state you're obsessed with me. 449 00:24:59,669 --> 00:25:00,589 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. 450 00:25:00,749 --> 00:25:02,469 Speaker 4: I'm scared of what it could turn into. 451 00:25:03,149 --> 00:25:04,229 Speaker 2: I'm not ready for that time. 452 00:25:04,589 --> 00:25:05,349 Speaker 4: I'm not ready for it. 453 00:25:05,509 --> 00:25:08,829 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well I am. She's like, you're obsessed with me? Yes. 454 00:25:09,349 --> 00:25:12,869 Speaker 2: She starts asking a serious question and he's like you're 455 00:25:12,909 --> 00:25:15,309 Speaker 2: not going to ask a serious question right now? And 456 00:25:15,349 --> 00:25:20,069 Speaker 2: she's like, yes, I am. And he can't keep a 457 00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:22,669 Speaker 2: straight face and he's like are you seriously going to 458 00:25:22,749 --> 00:25:25,509 Speaker 2: ask this? And she's asking about like you play a 459 00:25:25,509 --> 00:25:28,949 Speaker 2: lot of religious role like like mate, just go on 460 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:33,349 Speaker 2: a day. Then yes. Then he's like he's like, no, no, 461 00:25:33,469 --> 00:25:36,669 Speaker 2: go ask a question, and she's clearly so flustered that 462 00:25:36,709 --> 00:25:40,509 Speaker 2: it's just a stapement. This is her question. She's like, 463 00:25:40,949 --> 00:25:43,749 Speaker 2: you play lots of religious characters and he's like that's 464 00:25:43,749 --> 00:25:45,709 Speaker 2: not a question, and then she looks at him and goes, 465 00:25:46,109 --> 00:25:51,709 Speaker 2: why it's just a vibe. Yes, it's just a vibe. 466 00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:57,629 Speaker 2: So that is to meet you, Yes, the perfect which 467 00:25:57,669 --> 00:26:00,669 Speaker 2: is how we are imagine it's gonna go when we 468 00:26:00,709 --> 00:26:03,469 Speaker 2: find ourselves on a red carpet with a microphone. Yes, 469 00:26:03,629 --> 00:26:06,149 Speaker 2: and we sit there and we go when he walks past, 470 00:26:06,509 --> 00:26:08,309 Speaker 2: he is going to go, oh my god, it's the 471 00:26:08,349 --> 00:26:11,509 Speaker 2: love of my life. You're beautiful, And instead what happens 472 00:26:11,629 --> 00:26:13,949 Speaker 2: is you say, can we speak to this person? They 473 00:26:13,949 --> 00:26:15,349 Speaker 2: say no, it doesn't want to speak to you, and 474 00:26:15,389 --> 00:26:21,589 Speaker 2: you go, I'm going to cry. O lovely. Now. The 475 00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:24,229 Speaker 2: reason we can't look away is because there is something 476 00:26:24,269 --> 00:26:27,469 Speaker 2: slightly uncomfortable about it. Yeah, it's awkward, yeah, but is 477 00:26:27,509 --> 00:26:30,429 Speaker 2: that because they're truly in love? Yes, which takes us 478 00:26:30,429 --> 00:26:33,229 Speaker 2: to the most romantic date of all time. 479 00:26:33,549 --> 00:26:35,349 Speaker 4: I think we'd have a really nice time without the camera. 480 00:26:35,549 --> 00:26:38,389 Speaker 4: We just enjoy each other's company. Maybe not fuck. 481 00:26:38,189 --> 00:26:40,789 Speaker 2: It, Jess, have you watched the date? I haven't watched 482 00:26:40,829 --> 00:26:43,189 Speaker 2: the date before, not yet. I've only watched clips, I 483 00:26:43,189 --> 00:26:45,869 Speaker 2: mean beyond okay, as I've been on Beyonce tik tok oh. No. 484 00:26:46,069 --> 00:26:49,589 Speaker 2: I know now the clips you've seen, that's your bad. 485 00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:52,869 Speaker 2: There is just so much chemistry and I can tell that. 486 00:26:52,909 --> 00:26:55,629 Speaker 2: Andrew Garfield is clearly like, would we be on a 487 00:26:55,709 --> 00:26:58,749 Speaker 2: date if it weren't for all this, all these lights 488 00:26:58,869 --> 00:27:02,509 Speaker 2: and all these people here, would you really go on 489 00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:05,869 Speaker 2: a date with me? And she's clearly like, well, I 490 00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:08,949 Speaker 2: don't know, because she's trying to like act cool. It's like, 491 00:27:09,429 --> 00:27:12,749 Speaker 2: is anything said? No? Is he interviewed? Absolutely not. Do 492 00:27:12,829 --> 00:27:13,709 Speaker 2: we get anything out of it? 493 00:27:13,829 --> 00:27:14,029 Speaker 3: No? 494 00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:18,109 Speaker 2: Only vibes only, and I've never got more. Okay, I'm 495 00:27:18,109 --> 00:27:21,229 Speaker 2: going to do a recap. Okay, it's an eleven minute video. Wow, 496 00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:24,349 Speaker 2: I've watched it several times. Okay, they're at Sam. It's 497 00:27:24,509 --> 00:27:27,909 Speaker 2: the home of great tasting chicken. Yes, she loves like 498 00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:31,309 Speaker 2: a chicken out. I have more comments about saying later 499 00:27:31,389 --> 00:27:33,469 Speaker 2: on Okay, because there's a lot of b roll of 500 00:27:33,509 --> 00:27:37,749 Speaker 2: Sam throughout. Well, I would imagine that they've given free chicken. Yeah. 501 00:27:37,829 --> 00:27:40,269 Speaker 2: They begin by making a joke that the vibes were 502 00:27:40,269 --> 00:27:42,869 Speaker 2: so strong he was avoiding her for two years after 503 00:27:42,869 --> 00:27:46,589 Speaker 2: those red carpeting directions. So hot. Yeah, he says, I 504 00:27:46,629 --> 00:27:51,309 Speaker 2: don't like games, Amelia. Don't say her name. It's disquieting. Yeah, 505 00:27:51,389 --> 00:27:53,389 Speaker 2: it makes me feel funny when you say her name. Well, 506 00:27:53,389 --> 00:27:55,349 Speaker 2: you know why they couldn't go on this date because 507 00:27:55,349 --> 00:27:57,469 Speaker 2: he had a girlfriend. He had a girlfriend, and is 508 00:27:57,509 --> 00:27:59,429 Speaker 2: it a coincidence that they've only gone this date now 509 00:27:59,429 --> 00:28:01,349 Speaker 2: that he and the girlfriend are broken up? I think not. 510 00:28:02,669 --> 00:28:06,429 Speaker 2: She's like, ah, your spidy sense is tingling right now, 511 00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:08,709 Speaker 2: and he's like hot, you get one of those and 512 00:28:08,749 --> 00:28:12,029 Speaker 2: no more, but then another one and it's like, yeah, 513 00:28:12,069 --> 00:28:14,189 Speaker 2: he wants a real talk because he wants to connect 514 00:28:14,229 --> 00:28:18,269 Speaker 2: with you emotionally. Yeah. She asks him snog, marry, avoid 515 00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:25,229 Speaker 2: Toby tom Amelia demoldover I love it, And he's like, 516 00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:27,229 Speaker 2: I don't want to avoid anyone, but I guess you 517 00:28:27,429 --> 00:28:30,069 Speaker 2: And she's like what, and he looks at her. 518 00:28:29,949 --> 00:28:31,469 Speaker 4: And says, this is called flirting. 519 00:28:33,669 --> 00:28:39,189 Speaker 2: Why am I smiling? Why am I blushing? As an aside, 520 00:28:39,429 --> 00:28:43,189 Speaker 2: I want to go to Sam's. Okay? Do they look good? 521 00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:45,629 Speaker 2: As does the soft drink? It looks chilled appropriately. Does 522 00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:48,349 Speaker 2: it look like that they would have extra chicken salt? 523 00:28:48,669 --> 00:28:50,989 Speaker 2: I get to this later on, but yes, okay, they're 524 00:28:50,989 --> 00:28:53,229 Speaker 2: having ginger beer, and I think she says during it 525 00:28:53,229 --> 00:28:56,389 Speaker 2: that she doesn't like ginger beer anyway. She asks do 526 00:28:56,429 --> 00:28:58,469 Speaker 2: you kiss on a first date? And then she glances 527 00:28:58,469 --> 00:29:02,069 Speaker 2: to the camera. She breaks the fourth wall. There's then 528 00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:05,349 Speaker 2: footage of the person working there trying to stand the 529 00:29:05,389 --> 00:29:08,509 Speaker 2: little packet of chips up on the like silver tray 530 00:29:08,509 --> 00:29:11,669 Speaker 2: and they keep and I'm like, whoever has edited this 531 00:29:11,829 --> 00:29:15,549 Speaker 2: is a creative genius. He says he thinks it's sexy 532 00:29:15,629 --> 00:29:17,869 Speaker 2: and really hot that she goes for what she wants 533 00:29:17,869 --> 00:29:20,629 Speaker 2: in terms of dating, and she says, that's what I think. 534 00:29:22,509 --> 00:29:25,349 Speaker 2: She's like, sometimes I worry about how much I get rejected, 535 00:29:25,709 --> 00:29:27,789 Speaker 2: but I put myself out there more than everyone else. 536 00:29:27,789 --> 00:29:30,469 Speaker 2: That's why I get rejected so much. Correct. He gives 537 00:29:30,469 --> 00:29:33,109 Speaker 2: her a high five for her courage love it. He's like, 538 00:29:33,509 --> 00:29:36,069 Speaker 2: what do you try and do to make it happen romantically? 539 00:29:37,069 --> 00:29:38,949 Speaker 2: And she's like, you just try to get with them. 540 00:29:39,149 --> 00:29:41,669 Speaker 2: And then he does an impersonation of her physically trying 541 00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:44,429 Speaker 2: to get with someone, and she's like, exactly, but she's 542 00:29:44,629 --> 00:29:50,109 Speaker 2: actually laughing. She's actually and does not break. She does 543 00:29:50,189 --> 00:29:53,509 Speaker 2: not break, And she's like, oh, that's funny. She asks 544 00:29:53,549 --> 00:29:55,469 Speaker 2: if he has ever been on a date to see 545 00:29:55,509 --> 00:29:59,109 Speaker 2: his own movie. His answer is no, actually, well he 546 00:29:59,189 --> 00:30:02,909 Speaker 2: pretends yes, then he says no, he's aware of all 547 00:30:02,989 --> 00:30:05,749 Speaker 2: her moves, like he's kind of like analyzing her as 548 00:30:05,749 --> 00:30:07,949 Speaker 2: she goes, yeah, yeah, and she says, I knew you'd 549 00:30:07,949 --> 00:30:10,869 Speaker 2: do this. She says it's fun He's like, does it 550 00:30:10,949 --> 00:30:16,589 Speaker 2: frustrate you? And stop blurting? She says, I like it 551 00:30:16,629 --> 00:30:19,189 Speaker 2: because it's funny someone seeing what I do. And he 552 00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:21,829 Speaker 2: says and naming it. Okay, this is so mad. Okay, 553 00:30:21,869 --> 00:30:25,629 Speaker 2: this is just basically like fifty shades, says. He then says, 554 00:30:25,749 --> 00:30:29,389 Speaker 2: and you go slightly red and she's like what she 555 00:30:29,509 --> 00:30:35,389 Speaker 2: goes slightly red? Now back to Sam's. Sam's chicken giving 556 00:30:35,429 --> 00:30:40,109 Speaker 2: caves is it? Is it the menu board? Oh, they 557 00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:47,669 Speaker 2: have chicken burgers with cheese, Oh, little boxes? It looks 558 00:30:47,789 --> 00:30:51,549 Speaker 2: really good? Does it genuinely great ad for Sam's if 559 00:30:51,589 --> 00:30:55,509 Speaker 2: anyone loves new SAMs? And then in terms of the chips, 560 00:30:55,549 --> 00:30:59,829 Speaker 2: what's the thickness? It looks like I'd say they're between 561 00:30:59,829 --> 00:31:02,069 Speaker 2: a McDonald's chip and a KS chip. Maybe not quite 562 00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:05,349 Speaker 2: as thick as KFC chips, but looks excellent. And I 563 00:31:05,389 --> 00:31:08,469 Speaker 2: see the salt. No, but the crispiness of the chicken 564 00:31:08,509 --> 00:31:13,789 Speaker 2: suggests that there's chicken salt. He asks how her thirtieth 565 00:31:14,029 --> 00:31:16,069 Speaker 2: was because on the red carpet she had made a 566 00:31:16,109 --> 00:31:18,389 Speaker 2: joke about her thirtieth, and she's like, did you like 567 00:31:18,469 --> 00:31:21,909 Speaker 2: being thirty? Can you remember? Because he's in his early forties, Okay, 568 00:31:22,309 --> 00:31:26,549 Speaker 2: you're old? Yeah, yeah, And he's like, bitch. He says, 569 00:31:26,709 --> 00:31:29,189 Speaker 2: you're funny. You're a funny person, and she says you're 570 00:31:29,189 --> 00:31:32,429 Speaker 2: funny too, and he says, eh, you're funnier and then 571 00:31:32,469 --> 00:31:34,869 Speaker 2: she accepts it, which I love. Why is this the 572 00:31:34,869 --> 00:31:38,469 Speaker 2: biggest compliment? He's like, I appreciate that quality in you. 573 00:31:38,629 --> 00:31:42,429 Speaker 2: And in a date, she's like, I think that we 574 00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:44,429 Speaker 2: there's something going on? 575 00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:45,589 Speaker 4: Do you actually think that? 576 00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:48,909 Speaker 2: For the I do think it's interesting that we if this. 577 00:31:49,069 --> 00:31:50,509 Speaker 4: Wasn't here, do you think we'd actually have it go 578 00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:53,189 Speaker 4: on a day? This has sucked up the fact that 579 00:31:53,189 --> 00:31:55,629 Speaker 4: we could have actually gone on a date at some point. Maybe. 580 00:31:55,949 --> 00:31:58,709 Speaker 2: He's like, I actually believe maybe we could have without 581 00:31:58,749 --> 00:32:00,549 Speaker 2: all of it? But why? She why is chalking in 582 00:32:00,629 --> 00:32:03,709 Speaker 2: past tense? They're both think it changes? Okay. She says 583 00:32:03,749 --> 00:32:06,869 Speaker 2: he's afraid of it. Okay, I love it. That's so hot. 584 00:32:07,189 --> 00:32:10,149 Speaker 2: He says, I'm a very private person in my private life. 585 00:32:10,309 --> 00:32:13,629 Speaker 2: She says, I'm more private than you. Actually, have you 586 00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:16,149 Speaker 2: ever seen me with anyone? And he says that doesn't 587 00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:18,549 Speaker 2: mean you're private. It just means you're not with anyone, 588 00:32:18,589 --> 00:32:21,669 Speaker 2: which was a real nag. Yeah, And it was also 589 00:32:21,829 --> 00:32:23,469 Speaker 2: like I just wanted to come in and go. It's 590 00:32:23,469 --> 00:32:27,149 Speaker 2: also because she's not nearly as famous. I don't think 591 00:32:27,189 --> 00:32:30,429 Speaker 2: she's being packed. No. No, Also it's her job to 592 00:32:30,429 --> 00:32:33,269 Speaker 2: go on date. Yeah. He asks, do you want to 593 00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:35,429 Speaker 2: be married? Do you want to have children? Yeah? Like, 594 00:32:35,469 --> 00:32:38,869 Speaker 2: what are your ultimate longings? I love that they're proper chatting. 595 00:32:39,189 --> 00:32:41,429 Speaker 2: He refers to it as an interview, and she's like, 596 00:32:41,549 --> 00:32:45,429 Speaker 2: stop calling it an interview, it's a date. She asks, 597 00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:47,789 Speaker 2: So you've been nominated for an Oscar, you've not won 598 00:32:48,069 --> 00:32:50,469 Speaker 2: when you're gonna win an Oscar, which is exactly what 599 00:32:50,469 --> 00:32:52,829 Speaker 2: you want to ask everyone. Hey, you, why haven't you 600 00:32:52,829 --> 00:32:56,229 Speaker 2: won one of them big awards? Yeah? He says, like 601 00:32:56,349 --> 00:32:58,309 Speaker 2: I wanted to win, and now like I don't know, 602 00:32:58,349 --> 00:33:00,709 Speaker 2: maybe it's just not gonna happen. And she says, probably 603 00:33:00,709 --> 00:33:03,429 Speaker 2: when you stop caring is what it will happen. Apparently 604 00:33:03,749 --> 00:33:06,629 Speaker 2: that's what happens with love as well. Then she says, 605 00:33:07,029 --> 00:33:10,589 Speaker 2: that's why I've been so relaxed today, because I actually 606 00:33:10,629 --> 00:33:15,429 Speaker 2: just given up. He says, I don't think you can 607 00:33:15,469 --> 00:33:19,189 Speaker 2: give up with intention. He says, would you be more 608 00:33:19,189 --> 00:33:21,869 Speaker 2: attracted to me if I had the Academy Award? And 609 00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:25,229 Speaker 2: she says yeah, And he's like, fuck, my longing is 610 00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:30,469 Speaker 2: back for it. She says, sounds it's okay, you're already 611 00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:33,629 Speaker 2: kind of hot. He says, I think we'd have a 612 00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:37,949 Speaker 2: really nice time without the camera. We'd enjoy each other's company, okay. 613 00:33:38,029 --> 00:33:39,989 Speaker 2: And she's like, you have my number? And he's like 614 00:33:40,109 --> 00:33:42,909 Speaker 2: do I? And she's like, yes, you asked for my 615 00:33:43,109 --> 00:33:49,989 Speaker 2: number at a party and he says I did. He says, 616 00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:53,309 Speaker 2: this should be a practice round. Then what is this 617 00:33:53,429 --> 00:33:54,029 Speaker 2: just a stick? 618 00:33:54,029 --> 00:33:54,149 Speaker 1: Oh? 619 00:33:54,189 --> 00:33:55,949 Speaker 2: We're just being set up here because I don't have 620 00:33:55,989 --> 00:33:58,029 Speaker 2: time for it. I don't have time to get this 621 00:33:58,069 --> 00:34:02,469 Speaker 2: investor in something. No, but I for eleven minutes straight, 622 00:34:02,829 --> 00:34:05,669 Speaker 2: I simply smiled at my score. One of those people 623 00:34:05,909 --> 00:34:07,869 Speaker 2: is a method actor, so we'll just write him off. Yeah. 624 00:34:07,949 --> 00:34:11,069 Speaker 2: The other one has a stick, but isn't a method actor. 625 00:34:11,469 --> 00:34:15,989 Speaker 2: And the thing is that in this date, she breaks, 626 00:34:16,589 --> 00:34:19,709 Speaker 2: she breaks, She never So what do we know about 627 00:34:19,709 --> 00:34:23,709 Speaker 2: what's happened? Since? Oh we don't? Okay, all right, I 628 00:34:23,709 --> 00:34:25,509 Speaker 2: think it's a private but all right, but what we 629 00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:29,469 Speaker 2: do have is reactions? All right, my head, they're performers, 630 00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:33,269 Speaker 2: my heart their so mate, That's exactly how I feel, 631 00:34:33,549 --> 00:34:35,989 Speaker 2: exactly it. What are some of the comments? This one 632 00:34:35,989 --> 00:34:39,349 Speaker 2: has thirteen point three thousand likes. I'm telling my kids 633 00:34:39,389 --> 00:34:43,349 Speaker 2: this is the Royal couple. Love more chemistry, I'll because 634 00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:45,789 Speaker 2: they're British too. Yeah, this has seven and a half 635 00:34:45,869 --> 00:34:48,789 Speaker 2: thousand likes. I'm not even being remotely dramatic when I 636 00:34:48,789 --> 00:34:50,909 Speaker 2: say this is the greatest eleven minutes and forty seconds 637 00:34:50,909 --> 00:34:53,709 Speaker 2: of media I have ever consumed. I actually completely agree. 638 00:34:54,349 --> 00:34:58,389 Speaker 2: And then someone who's a brand well played has written, 639 00:34:58,589 --> 00:35:01,829 Speaker 2: so when's chicken shop wedding? Yeah, they need a wedding 640 00:35:01,869 --> 00:35:04,109 Speaker 2: in a chicken shop. Imagine getting catered from a chicken shop, 641 00:35:04,109 --> 00:35:06,509 Speaker 2: how happily, I guess would be great meals for a wedding. 642 00:35:06,709 --> 00:35:09,789 Speaker 2: There is an Instagram comment that says, no, you don't 643 00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:11,389 Speaker 2: underst And I've had this on loop for an hour 644 00:35:11,429 --> 00:35:13,389 Speaker 2: straight and I can't stop smiling and blushing. Yes, I 645 00:35:13,429 --> 00:35:16,669 Speaker 2: think people are getting physical reactions to this. Hard relate. Now, 646 00:35:16,749 --> 00:35:20,269 Speaker 2: can you describe the text and the expression in this meme? 647 00:35:20,349 --> 00:35:23,389 Speaker 2: We've got a shopped cat and it says it's called flirting, Amelia, 648 00:35:23,509 --> 00:35:27,469 Speaker 2: It's called flirting, and the cat is so shooken. And 649 00:35:27,509 --> 00:35:29,629 Speaker 2: then we've got this is a tweet. Chicken Shop Date 650 00:35:29,669 --> 00:35:33,309 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four starring Andrew Garfield and Amelia de Moldenberg 651 00:35:33,469 --> 00:35:36,549 Speaker 2: is the best rom com of the year. It's so true. 652 00:35:37,029 --> 00:35:39,469 Speaker 2: They're got all the tension, it's got all the steaks. 653 00:35:40,269 --> 00:35:51,829 Speaker 2: It's just bloody beautiful. Are you going to bring the 654 00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:53,229 Speaker 2: witch to the table or am I going to bring 655 00:35:53,269 --> 00:35:56,989 Speaker 2: the witch to the table? Witch? Oh my gosh, you 656 00:35:57,069 --> 00:36:01,629 Speaker 2: forgot about the witch. Andrew Garfield dated a witch? Oh no, 657 00:36:02,149 --> 00:36:04,989 Speaker 2: So her name is Kate to Mars. She's an academic. 658 00:36:05,029 --> 00:36:08,149 Speaker 2: She has a PhD. So that's doctor Kate to Mass 659 00:36:08,309 --> 00:36:12,029 Speaker 2: to you, she's a doctor in being a witch. She's 660 00:36:12,069 --> 00:36:16,549 Speaker 2: not technically a doctor and being a witch. That is unrelated. 661 00:36:16,989 --> 00:36:20,269 Speaker 2: Doctor Kate to Mass describes herself as a professional witch 662 00:36:20,589 --> 00:36:24,829 Speaker 2: and spiritual mentor. She has a PhD in theology from Oxford. 663 00:36:25,269 --> 00:36:27,709 Speaker 2: From the podcast I've listened to with him, from the 664 00:36:27,749 --> 00:36:31,549 Speaker 2: little research I have done into him, the fact that 665 00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:34,949 Speaker 2: he would date someone of the PhD does not surprise me. Continue. Yeah, 666 00:36:34,989 --> 00:36:38,469 Speaker 2: So basically they were photographed out with Bo Burnham and 667 00:36:38,509 --> 00:36:41,149 Speaker 2: Phoebe Bridges. I think maybe he was doing the Broadway 668 00:36:41,189 --> 00:36:43,909 Speaker 2: version of Inside, like bo Burnham's Inside. I think I 669 00:36:44,029 --> 00:36:46,749 Speaker 2: might have read that. I might have not, who knows. Okay, 670 00:36:46,909 --> 00:36:51,829 Speaker 2: they're photographed, and then what happens is on Instagram someone 671 00:36:51,869 --> 00:36:55,349 Speaker 2: comments on Kate's one of her posts being like, Tellandrew 672 00:36:55,389 --> 00:36:57,509 Speaker 2: Garfield I love him or something, and she's like, we're 673 00:36:57,549 --> 00:37:00,069 Speaker 2: actually not dating anymore, but he'd love to know that. 674 00:37:00,429 --> 00:37:02,549 Speaker 2: So he's always on good terms with the exits. Don't 675 00:37:02,589 --> 00:37:05,429 Speaker 2: know why they broke up. Why. So she has been 676 00:37:05,429 --> 00:37:07,909 Speaker 2: posting a lot of stuff since October seven, right, and 677 00:37:07,949 --> 00:37:09,829 Speaker 2: she said like, if you have a public platform, I 678 00:37:09,869 --> 00:37:12,589 Speaker 2: really think you need to post, and you're being a 679 00:37:12,629 --> 00:37:15,069 Speaker 2: coward and blah blah blah, and a lot of people went, 680 00:37:15,309 --> 00:37:18,589 Speaker 2: this is awkward because Andrew Garfield is not posting yep. 681 00:37:18,869 --> 00:37:22,069 Speaker 2: And then there was an article that went up that 682 00:37:22,229 --> 00:37:24,749 Speaker 2: was like, we think the reason that they've broken up 683 00:37:24,949 --> 00:37:28,669 Speaker 2: is because of he's not politically progressive enough for her, 684 00:37:29,149 --> 00:37:31,509 Speaker 2: and then she screenshot that article and put it in 685 00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:34,229 Speaker 2: her stories with a tick next to her is why 686 00:37:34,309 --> 00:37:38,589 Speaker 2: that broke up? But then in the last few weeks 687 00:37:39,309 --> 00:37:44,629 Speaker 2: he was interviewed, yep in a very public situation. Yes, 688 00:37:45,189 --> 00:37:48,989 Speaker 2: and he brought up Palestine. He did exactly right, And 689 00:37:49,149 --> 00:37:51,069 Speaker 2: a lot of people said, it's easy to look at 690 00:37:51,069 --> 00:37:54,069 Speaker 2: this and think it's not a lot. Yeah, but in 691 00:37:54,109 --> 00:37:58,069 Speaker 2: the context of Hollywood, Yep, it actually is. Yeah. So 692 00:37:58,149 --> 00:38:01,909 Speaker 2: he has kind of started speaking since they've yeah, since 693 00:38:01,909 --> 00:38:07,709 Speaker 2: they've split. Interesting, very and she got ruthlessly trold because 694 00:38:07,749 --> 00:38:10,069 Speaker 2: she was dating Andrew Garfield and she wasn't a famous person. 695 00:38:10,149 --> 00:38:11,669 Speaker 2: So I think a lot of people were making fun 696 00:38:11,669 --> 00:38:13,949 Speaker 2: of her being a witch. Oh okay, but it's like, 697 00:38:14,429 --> 00:38:16,349 Speaker 2: let her be a witch, you know. Yeah, I want 698 00:38:16,389 --> 00:38:18,509 Speaker 2: a friend who's a witch. Me too, Jesse. It is 699 00:38:18,549 --> 00:38:25,229 Speaker 2: time for charges and sentences. My charge. You're so serious, 700 00:38:25,229 --> 00:38:28,989 Speaker 2: so serious? All right, he's flirting with us? What he's 701 00:38:29,029 --> 00:38:31,789 Speaker 2: flirting with us? No he's No, he's not. He's flirting 702 00:38:31,789 --> 00:38:35,469 Speaker 2: with Amelia. He's flirting with me. And the date made 703 00:38:35,469 --> 00:38:39,949 Speaker 2: me feel weird. Yeah, in my spidy senses, all right, Dingled, 704 00:38:40,269 --> 00:38:43,189 Speaker 2: I felt tingles in the space a web hump in 705 00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:47,709 Speaker 2: spaces where the web emerges from there's something quite sexual 706 00:38:47,749 --> 00:38:52,109 Speaker 2: about the web. I think that they're emerging Freudian about 707 00:38:52,109 --> 00:38:55,189 Speaker 2: our obsession with spider Man and how we put white 708 00:38:55,269 --> 00:38:59,789 Speaker 2: gears like stuff on walls and then chase it so 709 00:38:59,829 --> 00:39:02,389 Speaker 2: you like it. I'm married with a child. Okay, what's 710 00:39:02,389 --> 00:39:06,629 Speaker 2: your sentence? Sentence? Well, if you won't date me, date 711 00:39:06,669 --> 00:39:11,469 Speaker 2: a million, dat a million. Yeah. I genuinely think watching 712 00:39:11,509 --> 00:39:13,469 Speaker 2: the response to this, I know it's like, oh ha 713 00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:17,069 Speaker 2: ha ha oh. He's an actor. She knows what she's doing. 714 00:39:17,189 --> 00:39:20,429 Speaker 2: This is her bit. Rah rah rah. We live in 715 00:39:20,469 --> 00:39:24,949 Speaker 2: a very divided world where things are quite heavy. Yeah. 716 00:39:25,029 --> 00:39:28,029 Speaker 2: What we need is to be a part of something, Yeah, 717 00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:32,909 Speaker 2: and to be included, yes and involved. Yeah. I need 718 00:39:32,949 --> 00:39:36,069 Speaker 2: this to work so that we can be part of 719 00:39:36,109 --> 00:39:39,029 Speaker 2: a journey together as a culture. Yeah, in the chicken shop. 720 00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:42,589 Speaker 2: In the chicken shop, because I think the journey of 721 00:39:42,709 --> 00:39:47,269 Speaker 2: having watched them meat on a red carpet twice and 722 00:39:47,389 --> 00:39:50,669 Speaker 2: then knowing that he asked for her number at a 723 00:39:50,669 --> 00:39:53,629 Speaker 2: party and then literally watched she had been left out 724 00:39:53,629 --> 00:39:55,829 Speaker 2: by that point. We weren't there at the party, and 725 00:39:55,829 --> 00:39:57,789 Speaker 2: that pisses me off because because I wished to be 726 00:39:57,989 --> 00:39:59,909 Speaker 2: like For some reason, and this may not be true, 727 00:40:00,149 --> 00:40:03,069 Speaker 2: I feel like it was the after party of one 728 00:40:03,069 --> 00:40:05,709 Speaker 2: of the awards shows. I don't know why. That's fine, 729 00:40:05,789 --> 00:40:07,269 Speaker 2: that's fine, And so I'm like, well, I guess it 730 00:40:07,309 --> 00:40:09,229 Speaker 2: was slightly off camera, but we saw you earlier in 731 00:40:09,229 --> 00:40:13,629 Speaker 2: the day. Yeah, So I genuinely think it would make 732 00:40:13,709 --> 00:40:18,149 Speaker 2: us all feel very included. And I think Amelia to Moldenburg, 733 00:40:18,709 --> 00:40:22,669 Speaker 2: there's actually something quite profound about what she does and 734 00:40:22,709 --> 00:40:26,229 Speaker 2: that I think she represents the every girl, all the funny, 735 00:40:26,789 --> 00:40:30,349 Speaker 2: weird girls who felt like when we went on dates, 736 00:40:30,869 --> 00:40:34,709 Speaker 2: guys didn't get our jokes and that maybe they were 737 00:40:34,789 --> 00:40:36,789 Speaker 2: just kind of looking at us up and down and 738 00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:42,069 Speaker 2: wondering why we didn't look like Adriana Lima. Yeah, there 739 00:40:42,109 --> 00:40:44,669 Speaker 2: was a bit of that, Yeah, And I think there's 740 00:40:44,709 --> 00:40:50,909 Speaker 2: something quite healing about watching a man value a woman 741 00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:53,989 Speaker 2: for her sense of humor, especially when that sense of 742 00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:56,669 Speaker 2: humor is weird as fuck. Yeah it is, and not 743 00:40:56,749 --> 00:40:58,989 Speaker 2: everyone gets it. Yeah, And she doesn't speak to him 744 00:40:58,989 --> 00:41:00,629 Speaker 2: like a celebrity. That's what I love is she just 745 00:41:00,669 --> 00:41:02,989 Speaker 2: puts them all down and she's like, try and impress me. 746 00:41:03,229 --> 00:41:06,429 Speaker 2: And it's genuinely really funny. It is really Funny's so 747 00:41:06,669 --> 00:41:08,949 Speaker 2: so good my sentences. I need them to get married, 748 00:41:08,989 --> 00:41:10,869 Speaker 2: and I need you to be If they get married, 749 00:41:10,909 --> 00:41:13,029 Speaker 2: there's no more fucking chicken shop. Tell you that because 750 00:41:13,109 --> 00:41:16,749 Speaker 2: no more day it's because you're married, unless they're polyamorous. Yeah, never, 751 00:41:16,909 --> 00:41:19,189 Speaker 2: there's actually do talk about monogamy. In the interview, he 752 00:41:19,189 --> 00:41:20,749 Speaker 2: asked if she wants to be a monogamous and I 753 00:41:20,789 --> 00:41:23,509 Speaker 2: don't know if she directly so, she's not fussed about 754 00:41:23,509 --> 00:41:29,229 Speaker 2: marriage or children. I think she just wants partner in tried. Yeah, 755 00:41:30,029 --> 00:41:32,589 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a royal wedding. Yeah, I wanted 756 00:41:32,629 --> 00:41:35,749 Speaker 2: to have all the trimmings royal. We got accent with 757 00:41:35,869 --> 00:41:38,829 Speaker 2: a reception in the chicken stop can love Okay, my 758 00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:42,509 Speaker 2: charge and it has been a recurring theme and it's 759 00:41:42,549 --> 00:41:44,789 Speaker 2: probably the only thing we can charge him with in 760 00:41:44,909 --> 00:41:49,309 Speaker 2: terms of guilt not being spidery enough. Ah, and he 761 00:41:49,389 --> 00:41:51,829 Speaker 2: has been punished for that. Yeah, and that he lost 762 00:41:51,869 --> 00:41:54,869 Speaker 2: his bloody job he loved, he lost his job. My 763 00:41:55,829 --> 00:42:00,469 Speaker 2: sentence is his proximity to a witch. Mm hmm is 764 00:42:01,109 --> 00:42:05,909 Speaker 2: something that I'm not benefiting enough from. If my friend said, oh, 765 00:42:05,949 --> 00:42:07,989 Speaker 2: I dated a witch for a few years, more content 766 00:42:08,029 --> 00:42:10,709 Speaker 2: out of that. I have some questions. Yeah, I think 767 00:42:10,749 --> 00:42:15,509 Speaker 2: witchcraft is a little bit like dating a magician, Okay, 768 00:42:15,509 --> 00:42:18,469 Speaker 2: in terms of tell me how he does the trick. Yeah, 769 00:42:18,629 --> 00:42:21,869 Speaker 2: so does she do potions? Yeah? You know how in 770 00:42:21,909 --> 00:42:24,469 Speaker 2: the movie Witches she doesn't really ties. She just had 771 00:42:24,509 --> 00:42:26,149 Speaker 2: a square foot? Is that a thing? She still have 772 00:42:26,189 --> 00:42:28,949 Speaker 2: square foot? Yeah? This is what we need to know. Yep. 773 00:42:29,149 --> 00:42:29,949 Speaker 2: Did she have a caldron? 774 00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:30,149 Speaker 1: Like? 775 00:42:30,149 --> 00:42:33,269 Speaker 2: I have all of those questions because Kate Tamas you 776 00:42:33,269 --> 00:42:34,829 Speaker 2: have to have a six month commitment with her if 777 00:42:34,909 --> 00:42:36,549 Speaker 2: you want to work with her as like a witch doctor, 778 00:42:36,869 --> 00:42:38,749 Speaker 2: and she will charge you eight thousand dollars a month. 779 00:42:38,829 --> 00:42:43,709 Speaker 2: So what's eight thousand time six? It's like fifty thousand dollars. 780 00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:51,389 Speaker 2: I'm feeling quite confident about that. So confused about a 781 00:42:51,389 --> 00:42:54,309 Speaker 2: witch doctor. Yeah, she's a witch to It's weird because 782 00:42:54,589 --> 00:42:58,829 Speaker 2: she is a doctor, not in doctor. No, no, no, she 783 00:42:58,909 --> 00:43:01,109 Speaker 2: did like mystresism or something. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so 784 00:43:01,149 --> 00:43:02,709 Speaker 2: she's really smart, but she's a witch. And I just 785 00:43:02,709 --> 00:43:04,109 Speaker 2: think he could dish more on the witch thing. 786 00:43:04,229 --> 00:43:04,429 Speaker 1: Yeah. 787 00:43:04,509 --> 00:43:06,789 Speaker 2: If I was on a date with Andrew Garfield, I'd 788 00:43:06,829 --> 00:43:08,749 Speaker 2: be like, tell me about Eric. She sounds interesting. She 789 00:43:08,789 --> 00:43:13,149 Speaker 2: sounds very interesting. Great point in the first sentence of 790 00:43:13,269 --> 00:43:16,909 Speaker 2: Chicken Shop Date, he's the word curse, which made me worried. 791 00:43:16,949 --> 00:43:21,749 Speaker 2: Familiar Oh no, yeh did she is that X is 792 00:43:21,749 --> 00:43:23,549 Speaker 2: gonna put a bit of a curse on him one 793 00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:27,509 Speaker 2: hundred percent. Oh wow, great point, Jesse. I have a 794 00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:31,189 Speaker 2: lazy girl storry for us to round out the show. Okay, 795 00:43:31,389 --> 00:43:34,229 Speaker 2: she's a lazy girl. This is from Kate. Hey there, 796 00:43:34,749 --> 00:43:37,269 Speaker 2: I have a lazy girl take for you. We all 797 00:43:37,309 --> 00:43:40,069 Speaker 2: know about the lazy girl tax. Yes, about the lazy 798 00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:42,269 Speaker 2: girl tax before, she said, like the time I left 799 00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:44,509 Speaker 2: fifty dollars on a plane and couldn't be bothered calling 800 00:43:44,549 --> 00:43:46,429 Speaker 2: to see if they'd found it. Well, you know what 801 00:43:46,509 --> 00:43:48,509 Speaker 2: I did is I left my AirPods on a plane, 802 00:43:48,509 --> 00:43:50,309 Speaker 2: and I did call to see if they could find it. 803 00:43:50,389 --> 00:43:52,389 Speaker 2: And I think they called back, but I didn't answer, 804 00:43:52,589 --> 00:43:54,669 Speaker 2: Oh because I'm no number. I no number, And I 805 00:43:54,709 --> 00:43:57,029 Speaker 2: was like, I'm not just going to answer some random number. 806 00:43:57,069 --> 00:43:58,789 Speaker 2: And I've lost my air pods and they're worth like 807 00:43:58,829 --> 00:44:01,069 Speaker 2: two hundred dollars. Yeah, not going to buy another pair, 808 00:44:01,949 --> 00:44:04,989 Speaker 2: she said. But being a lazy girl sometimes pays off too, 809 00:44:05,509 --> 00:44:07,789 Speaker 2: Like the time I had to quit my job but 810 00:44:08,029 --> 00:44:13,229 Speaker 2: procrastinated and they ended up making everyone redundant, so I 811 00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:17,949 Speaker 2: got six weeks pay to not work in brackets. Ultimate 812 00:44:18,109 --> 00:44:22,069 Speaker 2: lazy girl hack she's a lazy girl. That's actually Jean, 813 00:44:22,629 --> 00:44:26,749 Speaker 2: redundancy is such a lazy girl, such a lazy Just wait, 814 00:44:26,749 --> 00:44:29,309 Speaker 2: if you wait around enough, you'll probably be made redundant. 815 00:44:29,509 --> 00:44:31,869 Speaker 2: You actually will. Yeah, and you get paid for not working. 816 00:44:32,549 --> 00:44:35,309 Speaker 2: And that's honestly like the greatest skift. 817 00:44:35,429 --> 00:44:35,509 Speaker 1: No. 818 00:44:35,789 --> 00:44:38,389 Speaker 2: I just think in a lazy girl's life, there is 819 00:44:38,429 --> 00:44:40,589 Speaker 2: no better period than when she is not working yet 820 00:44:40,629 --> 00:44:48,269 Speaker 2: she is still being paid as salary and benefits and sickly, Ah, 821 00:44:48,349 --> 00:44:50,709 Speaker 2: lazy girls should be able to live a redundant, a 822 00:44:50,789 --> 00:44:53,669 Speaker 2: life of redundancy. Thank you so much for joining us 823 00:44:53,709 --> 00:44:57,389 Speaker 2: on this episode of Canceled. Canceled is produced by Kimberly 824 00:44:57,589 --> 00:45:01,349 Speaker 2: Bradish with audio production by Leah Porgess. If you have 825 00:45:01,389 --> 00:45:03,429 Speaker 2: a minute, leave us five star reviews. 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