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Speaker 2: and welcome to Mama Mia out Loud and to our

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Speaker 2: Friday show where we take a break from the new cycle. Also,

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Speaker 2: this is our last regular show for the year, out Louders,

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Speaker 2: there are going to be lots of Easter eggs and

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Speaker 2: little treats in your out loud feed.

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Speaker 3: Between now, lots of fun coming and.

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Speaker 2: January the thirteenth, when we are back in full force.

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Speaker 3: And of course we've got word of the year.

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Speaker 1: Word of the year.

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Speaker 2: We've got best worst, Huh.

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Speaker 1: I found those are those episodes quite emotional to record?

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Speaker 1: We got really deep arctic. Yeah, I can't remember my

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Speaker 2: On your head.

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Speaker 1: Don't last year's words anyway.

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Speaker 2: Okay, out Louders, In case you're thinking that we don't

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Speaker 2: take this word of the year stuff seriously, just disregard

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Speaker 2: everything these two bitches have said. And welcome to Mama

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Speaker 2: Mia Outloud on Friday, the twentieth of December, which happens

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Speaker 2: to be my birthday.

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Speaker 3: Have f birthday, Alie. I'm Hollywayne Wright, I'm Mayor Friedman,

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Speaker 3: and I'm Jesse Stevens And.

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Speaker 2: On the show today, recommendations for things to watch, listen to,

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Speaker 2: and lift heavy things to lift over the break and

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Speaker 2: one thing to definitely avoid. Also teenage boys, the end

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Speaker 2: of a big era, and one you can't say that moment.

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Speaker 2: It's our best and worst of the week.

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Speaker 1: But first, tomorrow is a very special day because it

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Speaker 1: is the birthday of Jesse Claire and also Claire's daughter Matilda.

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Speaker 1: It's basically, any basic bit who wants a birthday has

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Speaker 1: it on the twenty first of December. Do you know

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Speaker 1: my daughter was due on that day. She came ten

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Speaker 1: days earlier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what else it is? Though? It's gravy Day.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean You don't know what that means.

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Speaker 2: Make Gravy? It's a Christmas class Okay, So can I

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, every time I see your dad, Paul Kelly is all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And the reason why today's Gravy Day is because

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what you don't know. You never find that

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Speaker 2: But you know how Christmas comes with a big serve

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Speaker 2: There'll be drinking white wine in the sun. Is this

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Speaker 3: I know lots of the reason that those two songs

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Speaker 2: But White Wine in the Sun is about again being

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Speaker 1: Like, now I know Hannah's and collectors throw your arms

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Speaker 1: Anyway?

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Speaker 3: Last week, Holly and I released a subscriber episode that

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Speaker 1: I think that it's a disgrace that you two can

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Speaker 3: Really wow. Okay, Well, because I feel in my heart

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Speaker 3: Okay, sleep scores out?

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Speaker 3: I've got my watch on it's telling me that I

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Speaker 3: two percent. I just think it's really boring. We're getting

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Speaker 3: is in in twenty twenty five question? Everyone's asking side part,

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Speaker 3: I think both of them are back Okay.

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Speaker 1: Look, that's not a stupid thing to predict because parts

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Speaker 3: I also said broken arms and a lot of out louders. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Social media comes in, get outside and break there.

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Speaker 1: But that's true because also having reacquainted myself with playgrounds,

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Speaker 3: In interesting, well, Holly said that she wants jeans and

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's going out. No, it's not a

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Speaker 2: Basically, the kind of thing I want is like I'm

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Speaker 1: Do you know some shoes that are going to be

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Speaker 2: Boat shoes, Oh, I love a boat shoe.

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Speaker 1: I can't stand them. Also like boxing.

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Speaker 2: Boots, so are the ones that go up your leg? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we had you were in in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: Yes, We've had very low profile trainers for a really

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Speaker 1: long time, like added as, Sambas and the Pumas and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But now and on a Tucu Tigers, which is what

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Speaker 1: I've obsessed with. But now it's high things. But my

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Speaker 1: prediction is plastic shoes. I'm wearing some right now, so

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to be good for the planet.

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Speaker 2: It can be a good thing. Maybe they're a ready

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Speaker 1: But if it's not a leather, it's these are like

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Speaker 1: I know you'd hate them. I wear these to try you.

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Speaker 1: They're actually a knockoff of a Prata shoe, but the

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Speaker 1: prior ones are like thousands, and this is like I

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Speaker 1: got it from Amazon for like, I don't know, eighty bucks. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: I also bought some jellies, some clear jellies.

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Speaker 2: Your shoes go through that. Like just said that you're

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Speaker 2: obsessed with on a Suku tigers, which like she was

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Speaker 2: obsessed with spezials, the owls, Sambers, Sambers, She's already been

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Speaker 2: obsessed with at least three different kinds of trainers this year.

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Speaker 3: True, I'm just missing the part where this segments about

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Speaker 2: Sign subscriptions to too many things. Yeah, predictions are much

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Speaker 1: That's what I predict. That is a genius prediction. Did

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she can be Special Advisor of Plastic Surgery. I

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to find new ways to be relevant.

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Speaker 2: They will constantly evolve. I don't mean this in a

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Speaker 1: No, no implant in, implants out.

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Speaker 3: That's why they're in the cabinet. In cabinets and maritailon musk.

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Speaker 2: Tell us, out louders, what are your predictions for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five? Jump in the Facebook group, Make them silly

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Speaker 1: In a moment, our recos for this week, which include

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Speaker 1: needed a show to watch, and I remembered that Hohle

440
00:20:08,767 --> 00:20:12,647
Speaker 1: had recommended in this segment last week Black Doves with

441
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Speaker 1: care Knightley. It's a bit of a spy situation.

442
00:20:16,087 --> 00:20:17,407
Speaker 3: I thought. She said, you wouldn't like it.

443
00:20:17,447 --> 00:20:20,767
Speaker 1: Ben Wishart was in it. Who is in that show

444
00:20:20,767 --> 00:20:23,127
Speaker 1: that we both love? Jesse called, if this is going

445
00:20:23,167 --> 00:20:25,527
Speaker 1: to hurt about playing doctor. I just really wanted to

446
00:20:25,567 --> 00:20:28,087
Speaker 1: be immersed in something. I remember saying to Holly is

447
00:20:28,327 --> 00:20:31,927
Speaker 1: very violent, and she said, oh, some people get murdered,

448
00:20:31,967 --> 00:20:34,047
Speaker 1: like in the beginning, but like, it's not that bad

449
00:20:35,407 --> 00:20:38,807
Speaker 1: the body count in this show. There's no spoilers. I

450
00:20:38,847 --> 00:20:44,487
Speaker 1: have really enjoyed it. However, in one scene, one time,

451
00:20:44,927 --> 00:20:48,167
Speaker 1: more than twenty people died in a single scene, over

452
00:20:48,367 --> 00:20:51,887
Speaker 1: six or seven episodes, the body count was high. True,

453
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Speaker 1: so holy once again your recommendations. Well, I did like

454
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Speaker 1: watching the show. I did actually really like it.

455
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Speaker 3: But so your seconding, seconding.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am that recod But the feedback is your

457
00:21:04,367 --> 00:21:07,207
Speaker 1: version of not to no, it's not too violent.

458
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Speaker 3: Is very different to just confirm that Maya Friedman needs

459
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Speaker 3: a trigger wanting yes, yes, trying to be shocked. Well,

460
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Speaker 3: look at that.

461
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Speaker 2: What is your recommendation, though, Maya.

462
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Speaker 1: Oh, my recommendation is when I went to the pelvic

463
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Speaker 1: physio a few weeks ago and Nick physio. Yeah, I

464
00:21:26,167 --> 00:21:27,967
Speaker 1: went to a public physio. I told her about this,

465
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Speaker 1: didn't I And she stuck my fingers up me and

466
00:21:29,927 --> 00:21:31,207
Speaker 1: we had to do some things and we had to

467
00:21:31,247 --> 00:21:33,447
Speaker 1: make small talk during that time, and she was the

468
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Speaker 1: same one that had her fingers up Jesse a little

469
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Speaker 1: while ago. Welcome to any new out louders. This is

470
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Speaker 1: the whole thing, and I found it really interesting. But

471
00:21:41,727 --> 00:21:44,887
Speaker 1: there was a lot of information that she gave to me,

472
00:21:45,207 --> 00:21:47,927
Speaker 1: and part of them Holly's looking at a watch. Clearly

473
00:21:47,967 --> 00:21:51,927
Speaker 1: she's bored by my vadge. Anyway, all the exercises that

474
00:21:51,967 --> 00:21:53,487
Speaker 1: she told me to do for my pelvic floor I

475
00:21:53,527 --> 00:21:55,327
Speaker 1: didn't manage to retain any of them, and I haven't

476
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Speaker 1: done a single one. However, something that she said that

477
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Speaker 1: I did remember was the importance of women of my age.

478
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Speaker 1: I'm fifty three to be doing strength training because I'm

479
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Speaker 1: a cardio girl. I have a treadmill, elliptical, I've been

480
00:22:07,967 --> 00:22:12,087
Speaker 1: doing some pilates. But the importance of to avoid astioporosis

481
00:22:12,127 --> 00:22:13,967
Speaker 1: to all of their different things that you want to do,

482
00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:18,167
Speaker 1: and so I started. I bought some dumbbells. I've been

483
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Speaker 1: doing my dumb bell exercises. I just look for like

484
00:22:20,807 --> 00:22:24,007
Speaker 1: ten minutes dumbbells. What I would suggest you don't do

485
00:22:24,247 --> 00:22:28,207
Speaker 1: is google women menopausal, because then you'll get some really

486
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Speaker 1: old ladies. And you're not that there's anything wrong with

487
00:22:30,167 --> 00:22:32,207
Speaker 1: old ladies. But I had a bit of a crisis

488
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Speaker 1: of oh yeah, anyway. I just felt it was a

489
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Speaker 1: bit upsetting for me, a bit confronting. How you see

490
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Speaker 1: yourself how I saw myself anyway. Also, I bought a weighted.

491
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Speaker 3: Vest I wrote that on my script just now, because

492
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Speaker 3: I went my prediction for twenty twenty five is that

493
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Speaker 3: everyone your age is walking around wearing a weighted.

494
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Speaker 2: Say that I was just showing me that I had

495
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Speaker 2: been sent a lovely weighted vest for free for free

496
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Speaker 2: as the host of mid and that they were like,

497
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Speaker 2: this will be good for you. And I was showing me,

498
00:23:00,927 --> 00:23:02,927
Speaker 2: I'm going, it's not like the parcels I used to get,

499
00:23:02,927 --> 00:23:05,167
Speaker 2: and she nearly ripped it out of my hands. Then

500
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Speaker 2: she put it on me and it's heavy.

501
00:23:07,647 --> 00:23:08,167
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I.

502
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Speaker 1: Paid for mine. I bought one just on Amazon. I

503
00:23:10,367 --> 00:23:12,247
Speaker 1: think it's a Rebok one. It's like seventy eighty.

504
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Speaker 3: I was seeing them everywhere, particularly for like Perry women,

505
00:23:16,127 --> 00:23:18,607
Speaker 3: because it's weight training but you walk at the same time.

506
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Speaker 1: I overdid it a little bit because I put my

507
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Speaker 1: vest on and then I lifted my heavy dumbbells and

508
00:23:22,127 --> 00:23:22,607
Speaker 1: I hurt my back.

509
00:23:22,647 --> 00:23:23,727
Speaker 2: Does that surprise anyone?

510
00:23:23,887 --> 00:23:26,167
Speaker 1: No, I just went too hard with my weights. But

511
00:23:26,727 --> 00:23:28,767
Speaker 1: the putting it on and what I use it for

512
00:23:28,967 --> 00:23:30,527
Speaker 1: is like if you go for a walk. I wouldn't

513
00:23:30,567 --> 00:23:32,767
Speaker 1: run in it, but like whole with your walks that

514
00:23:32,807 --> 00:23:34,847
Speaker 1: you go on, those walkie things that you do in

515
00:23:34,887 --> 00:23:38,087
Speaker 1: the world do I will walk on my treadmill wearing

516
00:23:38,087 --> 00:23:40,767
Speaker 1: my weighted vest, and you could walk around your house.

517
00:23:40,807 --> 00:23:42,487
Speaker 1: I guess if you want it, it's like incidental.

518
00:23:42,967 --> 00:23:45,127
Speaker 2: People think that I'm a secret agent.

519
00:23:45,647 --> 00:23:47,807
Speaker 1: Yes, it does look a little bit light little doesn't

520
00:23:47,807 --> 00:23:52,007
Speaker 1: look a bit black dove. I totally very small and

521
00:23:52,407 --> 00:23:56,207
Speaker 1: very ineffective as a Holly's got the five kilo one.

522
00:23:56,327 --> 00:23:58,407
Speaker 1: You can get three kilo, five killo or ten kilo.

523
00:23:58,967 --> 00:24:00,567
Speaker 1: I've got the five kilo. It's quite heavy.

524
00:24:01,207 --> 00:24:02,767
Speaker 2: I said to me, I could just put on five

525
00:24:02,847 --> 00:24:07,847
Speaker 2: kilos more fun. You're so cloyed, But I don't think

526
00:24:07,887 --> 00:24:08,567
Speaker 2: that's the point.

527
00:24:09,327 --> 00:24:10,487
Speaker 1: You can do it with sound. You can bund an

528
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Speaker 1: empty one and do it with sound, but that's tricky.

529
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Speaker 3: My recommendation because it is the regular show of the year,

530
00:24:16,327 --> 00:24:20,047
Speaker 3: I have two recommendations. I follow someone on Instagram who

531
00:24:20,327 --> 00:24:22,767
Speaker 3: posted best documentaries of all time, and I went through,

532
00:24:22,807 --> 00:24:24,167
Speaker 3: and I'd seen a bunch of them, but there are

533
00:24:24,167 --> 00:24:25,807
Speaker 3: a few I hadn't And I sent them to Luca

534
00:24:25,847 --> 00:24:27,687
Speaker 3: and I said, let's work our way through these.

535
00:24:27,767 --> 00:24:29,007
Speaker 2: Got it's fun around at their house.

536
00:24:30,607 --> 00:24:33,607
Speaker 3: Well, we both got so excited and it took over

537
00:24:33,607 --> 00:24:37,207
Speaker 3: our whole weekend. I watched two documentaries that were outstanding.

538
00:24:37,327 --> 00:24:42,967
Speaker 3: The first is probably the most well known, famous best

539
00:24:42,967 --> 00:24:45,607
Speaker 3: documentary ever made, has won an Academy Award, but I

540
00:24:45,647 --> 00:24:48,927
Speaker 3: have resisted watching it because the description didn't appeal to

541
00:24:48,967 --> 00:24:52,047
Speaker 3: me at all. It is called Searching for Sugarman, and

542
00:24:52,127 --> 00:24:54,687
Speaker 3: it was made like that was big about ten years

543
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Speaker 3: yea ages ago a.

544
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Speaker 2: Song like Sugarman.

545
00:24:58,047 --> 00:25:04,327
Speaker 3: That's exactly a song, and so it's about the fact

546
00:25:04,367 --> 00:25:06,327
Speaker 3: that everyone knows that song, but a lot of people

547
00:25:06,407 --> 00:25:09,087
Speaker 3: don't know the person who sang it. And he released

548
00:25:09,087 --> 00:25:12,487
Speaker 3: these songs in the sixties and early seventies, very inspiring

549
00:25:12,567 --> 00:25:16,127
Speaker 3: creatively because they did nothing, total flop. But he didn't

550
00:25:16,167 --> 00:25:18,207
Speaker 3: know was it on the other side of the world.

551
00:25:18,407 --> 00:25:21,167
Speaker 3: It was becoming the most famous song in the entire

552
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Speaker 3: country and in South Africa by you know, total kind

553
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Speaker 3: of coincidence. What was happening to them? Politically? They became

554
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Speaker 3: obsessed with him. There were all these stories about how

555
00:25:31,167 --> 00:25:34,327
Speaker 3: he had died on stage, and they became obsessed with

556
00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:36,927
Speaker 3: going what happened to Rodriguez? What's a true story? And

557
00:25:37,007 --> 00:25:40,247
Speaker 3: it is the best documentary has an amazing twist, and

558
00:25:40,567 --> 00:25:43,287
Speaker 3: this does and it's so satisfying. So that is on

559
00:25:43,447 --> 00:25:46,487
Speaker 3: Stan my second documentary. I had never even heard of this.

560
00:25:46,967 --> 00:25:50,167
Speaker 3: It is called Delt and again I read the description

561
00:25:50,247 --> 00:25:53,167
Speaker 3: and went I'm gonna hate this. It's about a magician

562
00:25:53,207 --> 00:25:56,767
Speaker 3: card trick guy. I'm not really into card tricks anyway.

563
00:25:57,287 --> 00:25:59,247
Speaker 3: So it starts off. For the first ten minutes you're like, oh,

564
00:25:59,247 --> 00:26:01,527
Speaker 3: this is pretty cool. Actually these are impressive. But then

565
00:26:01,767 --> 00:26:04,007
Speaker 3: something clicks and you realize that there's something about this

566
00:26:04,087 --> 00:26:07,607
Speaker 3: man you haven't noticed yet, and it changes the whole documentary.

567
00:26:07,647 --> 00:26:10,767
Speaker 3: And I got that on Google Play, YouTube whatever, flight

568
00:26:10,807 --> 00:26:15,327
Speaker 3: four dollars. But just trust me, they are both outstanding documentaries.

569
00:26:15,327 --> 00:26:16,927
Speaker 3: You'll think about them for ages afterwards.

570
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Speaker 1: Are they violent?

571
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Speaker 3: There is in either of them.

572
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Speaker 1: It's so except I'm not going to Black Dove has

573
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Speaker 1: been renewed for season two before it even came out,

574
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Speaker 1: which I'm.

575
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Speaker 2: Very likely on Black Doves for one more minute. Did

576
00:26:33,007 --> 00:26:37,527
Speaker 2: you notice that Kira Knightley is basically dressed and styled

577
00:26:38,207 --> 00:26:45,407
Speaker 2: exactly like Kate Middleton, same hair, same clothes. Well she is.

578
00:26:45,527 --> 00:26:48,527
Speaker 2: Her character is a spy who's pretending to be a

579
00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:51,247
Speaker 2: very high up Tory politician's wife. So that's her world.

580
00:26:51,407 --> 00:26:53,847
Speaker 2: Kate Middleton, even though she's a princess, is like the

581
00:26:53,927 --> 00:26:57,927
Speaker 2: ultimate Tory wife, like so super skinny, very disciplined, groomed,

582
00:26:58,087 --> 00:27:01,487
Speaker 2: classy clothes and that's like the vibe and sometimes they

583
00:27:01,607 --> 00:27:06,287
Speaker 2: look she was uncanny anyway, what's to do with anything? Okay.

584
00:27:06,527 --> 00:27:09,127
Speaker 2: One of the things that annoys me about my life

585
00:27:09,487 --> 00:27:13,127
Speaker 2: is I find it hard to discover new music. You

586
00:27:13,207 --> 00:27:16,607
Speaker 2: know how as you get older. I mean yeah, people

587
00:27:16,647 --> 00:27:19,487
Speaker 2: either get stuck where they are so like Brent, for example,

588
00:27:19,567 --> 00:27:22,167
Speaker 2: God bless him, but the man still listens to cultures

589
00:27:22,927 --> 00:27:25,927
Speaker 2: like I mean, my God, when it's his turn to

590
00:27:26,007 --> 00:27:28,287
Speaker 2: choose a song in the car, like, it's just embarrassing.

591
00:27:28,447 --> 00:27:30,127
Speaker 2: I never want to be that, right. So I have

592
00:27:30,167 --> 00:27:32,007
Speaker 2: my old nineties stuff that I love and all that,

593
00:27:32,087 --> 00:27:34,047
Speaker 2: and we've all got our happy songs that we love

594
00:27:34,807 --> 00:27:36,167
Speaker 2: to pump us up. But I'm like, I want to

595
00:27:36,247 --> 00:27:38,847
Speaker 2: keep moving. So this year's been great, Chapel roone, all

596
00:27:38,847 --> 00:27:41,967
Speaker 2: those things, but a good way to discover new music

597
00:27:42,087 --> 00:27:45,047
Speaker 2: because sometimes I don't find the algorithms are right right.

598
00:27:45,247 --> 00:27:48,687
Speaker 2: You know zanro who hosts Take five on the airBC,

599
00:27:48,927 --> 00:27:51,767
Speaker 2: which is a show where she talks to like musicians

600
00:27:51,767 --> 00:27:54,527
Speaker 2: about their favorite songs every month on both Spotify and

601
00:27:54,647 --> 00:27:58,287
Speaker 2: Apple Music. She just puts together her monthly mixtape. And

602
00:27:58,367 --> 00:28:00,127
Speaker 2: I know lots of celebrities do that. I think Zoe

603
00:28:00,247 --> 00:28:04,047
Speaker 2: Foster Blake does one. Sometimes her playlists are great. Yeah,

604
00:28:04,087 --> 00:28:06,127
Speaker 2: she has a bunch of really good ones. Zun rows.

605
00:28:06,447 --> 00:28:09,087
Speaker 2: There is always new music, and it's a real mix

606
00:28:09,447 --> 00:28:11,567
Speaker 2: of genres and stuff. And often if I'm just doing

607
00:28:11,647 --> 00:28:13,607
Speaker 2: things around the house and I'm a bit podcasted out,

608
00:28:13,647 --> 00:28:16,407
Speaker 2: you know, when you just reach peak input, I'll put

609
00:28:16,407 --> 00:28:18,007
Speaker 2: one of those on and there'll be some songs on

610
00:28:18,047 --> 00:28:19,967
Speaker 2: it that are really not my thing, like really in

611
00:28:20,007 --> 00:28:22,687
Speaker 2: your face kind of dance or whatever, and then there'll

612
00:28:22,727 --> 00:28:24,487
Speaker 2: be some that I'm just like, oh, I love that,

613
00:28:24,567 --> 00:28:26,727
Speaker 2: and I can immediately then go and find the artist.

614
00:28:26,807 --> 00:28:30,887
Speaker 2: And I just would love more recommendations for good mixtapes, Like.

615
00:28:30,847 --> 00:28:35,167
Speaker 1: That's a great idea, because the algorithm is exhausting me

616
00:28:35,407 --> 00:28:37,367
Speaker 1: because I listen to a lot of Taylor and then

617
00:28:37,407 --> 00:28:39,327
Speaker 1: I've been listening to a lot of Chapel and Sabrina

618
00:28:39,327 --> 00:28:41,487
Speaker 1: this year because I'm basic bitch. But it just gives

619
00:28:41,487 --> 00:28:43,127
Speaker 1: you more and more and more of the same, and

620
00:28:43,167 --> 00:28:45,607
Speaker 1: it gets smaller and smaller and smaller, and I want

621
00:28:45,647 --> 00:28:47,167
Speaker 1: something to shake me up, but I don't know how

622
00:28:47,207 --> 00:28:47,847
Speaker 1: to find it.

623
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Speaker 2: It's like, how do you discover new music when you're

624
00:28:50,047 --> 00:28:51,847
Speaker 2: no longer like well, I don't know. I mean, I

625
00:28:51,887 --> 00:28:53,367
Speaker 2: don't even know how younger people do it.

626
00:28:53,367 --> 00:28:57,927
Speaker 3: Now there's no serendipity of the radio anymore. Right. I

627
00:28:58,047 --> 00:28:59,927
Speaker 3: listen to some like country song and you're like, I

628
00:29:00,007 --> 00:29:01,487
Speaker 3: like that song even though I don't like country.

629
00:29:01,527 --> 00:29:03,527
Speaker 2: You don't get Whereas the problem with the algorithms is

630
00:29:03,567 --> 00:29:05,487
Speaker 2: they go, oh, you like that song, Here's twenty country

631
00:29:05,487 --> 00:29:09,687
Speaker 2: songs like No No, No One. So I like monthly

632
00:29:09,687 --> 00:29:11,567
Speaker 2: mix its. But I have a very quick because it

633
00:29:11,647 --> 00:29:14,287
Speaker 2: is a rogue Friday, last show of the year, don't

634
00:29:14,287 --> 00:29:16,847
Speaker 2: watch recommendation, a recommendation not to watch.

635
00:29:17,127 --> 00:29:17,967
Speaker 1: Good Save us time.

636
00:29:18,007 --> 00:29:22,087
Speaker 2: The Polo documentary, produced by our very good friends Prince

637
00:29:22,127 --> 00:29:25,367
Speaker 2: Harry and Meghan Markle. They're not in it. Harry makes

638
00:29:25,367 --> 00:29:29,767
Speaker 2: a very brief appearance in episode four or five and

639
00:29:29,807 --> 00:29:32,407
Speaker 2: how much did you watch? And well, five episodes. I

640
00:29:32,487 --> 00:29:34,487
Speaker 2: was trying to distract myself. I told you about how

641
00:29:34,487 --> 00:29:35,967
Speaker 2: my daughter went to a party on Friday, and I had

642
00:29:35,967 --> 00:29:39,927
Speaker 2: to distract myself and I ended up watching all of it, really,

643
00:29:40,447 --> 00:29:42,047
Speaker 2: but we talked about it on the show the other week.

644
00:29:42,047 --> 00:29:45,007
Speaker 2: He's trying to kind of drive to survive the Polo scene.

645
00:29:45,087 --> 00:29:47,727
Speaker 2: So it's like a documentary about the polo scene in America,

646
00:29:47,767 --> 00:29:50,087
Speaker 2: so they're not even like posh English people who are entertaining.

647
00:29:50,247 --> 00:29:53,447
Speaker 2: It's really rich American people and they're trying to create

648
00:29:53,487 --> 00:29:55,207
Speaker 2: some drama. So there's like a father and son and

649
00:29:55,247 --> 00:29:57,127
Speaker 2: the father's really tough on the son and all this,

650
00:29:57,207 --> 00:29:58,887
Speaker 2: and the wives are all there and they all look

651
00:29:59,047 --> 00:30:01,327
Speaker 2: very you know, like you might imagine polo wives look.

652
00:30:01,727 --> 00:30:03,807
Speaker 2: But it's just not good. It's not good. And the

653
00:30:03,847 --> 00:30:07,927
Speaker 2: people are all awful. Yeah, and there's some pleasure in

654
00:30:08,047 --> 00:30:10,887
Speaker 2: like looking at their fancy houses and their helicopters and stuff,

655
00:30:10,887 --> 00:30:12,407
Speaker 2: and the whole are very pretty.

656
00:30:12,567 --> 00:30:13,487
Speaker 1: Are there any steaks?

657
00:30:14,327 --> 00:30:16,487
Speaker 2: Because it's like which one of these four teams is

658
00:30:16,527 --> 00:30:18,687
Speaker 2: going to win the US Open, which isn't even a

659
00:30:18,687 --> 00:30:21,687
Speaker 2: real thing, And like, no, don't bother friends unless you

660
00:30:21,767 --> 00:30:24,287
Speaker 2: love love horses, because the horses are very pretty and

661
00:30:24,327 --> 00:30:26,407
Speaker 2: they run fast. But it seems maybe a bit mean

662
00:30:26,447 --> 00:30:28,207
Speaker 2: to them. I don't know. Yeah, some of the men

663
00:30:28,247 --> 00:30:30,687
Speaker 2: are hot, there's always that, but they don't seem to

664
00:30:30,687 --> 00:30:32,687
Speaker 2: be any women except for the what anyway, So don't

665
00:30:32,727 --> 00:30:34,767
Speaker 2: waste your time friends, that's my anti recommendation.

666
00:30:35,047 --> 00:30:37,367
Speaker 3: After the break a creative cake, the end of a

667
00:30:37,447 --> 00:30:40,487
Speaker 3: chapter and teenage boys. It is our best and worst.

668
00:30:41,327 --> 00:30:44,047
Speaker 1: Every Tuesday and Thursday, we drop new segments of Mum

669
00:30:44,127 --> 00:30:46,847
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673
00:31:03,047 --> 00:31:05,287
Speaker 2: It's best and worse than the week friends. This is

674
00:31:05,327 --> 00:31:07,327
Speaker 2: the part of the show where we share a little

675
00:31:07,367 --> 00:31:10,287
Speaker 2: more from our personal lives, and as we said earlier

676
00:31:10,327 --> 00:31:12,207
Speaker 2: in the show, we've actually done a best and Worst

677
00:31:12,247 --> 00:31:14,087
Speaker 2: of the year episode. It's going to drop in your

678
00:31:14,087 --> 00:31:16,167
Speaker 2: out Loud feed over the holidays, so keep your eye

679
00:31:16,167 --> 00:31:18,287
Speaker 2: out for that. But this is just our last regular

680
00:31:18,287 --> 00:31:20,967
Speaker 2: one who wants to go first Meya Friedman. I will

681
00:31:21,247 --> 00:31:24,807
Speaker 2: on the weekend, I was forced to go for a

682
00:31:24,927 --> 00:31:27,007
Speaker 2: walk without.

683
00:31:26,687 --> 00:31:31,887
Speaker 1: Any like stimulus. Yes, and it was really hard.

684
00:31:31,967 --> 00:31:33,447
Speaker 3: Why who forced you to do this?

685
00:31:33,647 --> 00:31:35,927
Speaker 1: So I was away for the weekend and I wanted

686
00:31:35,967 --> 00:31:38,087
Speaker 1: to go for a walk on the beach. I love

687
00:31:38,127 --> 00:31:40,047
Speaker 1: a beach walk because I've been watching a lot of

688
00:31:40,327 --> 00:31:43,887
Speaker 1: killings on black Dust and I needed to just step

689
00:31:43,927 --> 00:31:48,367
Speaker 1: away for a moment. And my headphones had no batteries.

690
00:31:48,607 --> 00:31:49,647
Speaker 2: Oh that's upsetting.

691
00:31:50,287 --> 00:31:54,927
Speaker 1: Terrible story. I just kept thinking about it, Holly, and

692
00:31:54,927 --> 00:31:57,487
Speaker 1: how even when she talks about the walks that she takes.

693
00:31:57,687 --> 00:32:00,087
Speaker 1: And I've got another friend who also says she deliberately

694
00:32:00,447 --> 00:32:04,247
Speaker 1: doesn't have any headphones or anything when she walks. She

695
00:32:04,327 --> 00:32:06,207
Speaker 1: just leaves her phone at home and just walks. And

696
00:32:06,247 --> 00:32:09,527
Speaker 1: I was like, that makes me feel panicked, and so

697
00:32:09,687 --> 00:32:11,447
Speaker 1: I went, I've got no choice. I can either not

698
00:32:11,527 --> 00:32:14,527
Speaker 1: walk or I can wait until my headphones charge, but

699
00:32:14,567 --> 00:32:17,087
Speaker 1: then it will be dark. I think I'm just gonna

700
00:32:17,207 --> 00:32:18,527
Speaker 1: raw dog this walk.

701
00:32:18,967 --> 00:32:20,327
Speaker 3: You know what I've been known to do when my

702
00:32:20,367 --> 00:32:23,167
Speaker 3: headphones have run out is tuck my phone into the

703
00:32:23,167 --> 00:32:26,447
Speaker 3: front of my sports br id. I'm loud, No, you.

704
00:32:26,447 --> 00:32:28,167
Speaker 2: Can't do that. That's very antisocial.

705
00:32:29,367 --> 00:32:30,847
Speaker 1: I was going to have it on my just resting

706
00:32:30,887 --> 00:32:32,247
Speaker 1: on my shoulder like apparent.

707
00:32:32,167 --> 00:32:33,207
Speaker 3: Just holding it up to your hear.

708
00:32:34,447 --> 00:32:36,127
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did think about that, Jesse.

709
00:32:36,247 --> 00:32:40,767
Speaker 2: I really did parties tell us anyway, this experiment, it

710
00:32:40,847 --> 00:32:41,527
Speaker 2: was fine.

711
00:32:41,807 --> 00:32:46,087
Speaker 1: I thought about things. I thought about you, oh no,

712
00:32:46,207 --> 00:32:49,727
Speaker 1: and how brave you are, and I did moles some

713
00:32:49,847 --> 00:32:51,807
Speaker 1: things over. You know a lot of people say that

714
00:32:51,887 --> 00:32:55,007
Speaker 1: they walk things out when they've got stuff to figure out.

715
00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:57,007
Speaker 1: They just walk walk walk, and it's really true.

716
00:32:56,967 --> 00:32:59,127
Speaker 2: You need an idea. Sometimes I find it's a good

717
00:32:59,127 --> 00:33:00,367
Speaker 2: place to get an idea anyway.

718
00:33:00,567 --> 00:33:02,607
Speaker 1: And when I got bored, No, that's I think you're right.

719
00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:06,127
Speaker 1: When I got bored, I would think about outfits I

720
00:33:06,167 --> 00:33:08,447
Speaker 1: would make. That's my default always when I'm bored or

721
00:33:08,487 --> 00:33:10,687
Speaker 1: I can't sleep, think about outfits in my mind.

722
00:33:10,887 --> 00:33:11,407
Speaker 2: I love that.

723
00:33:11,447 --> 00:33:11,727
Speaker 1: I love.

724
00:33:12,647 --> 00:33:15,287
Speaker 2: Like in my mind, me is walking along a beach

725
00:33:15,447 --> 00:33:18,487
Speaker 2: on the Central coast and like little bubbles are above

726
00:33:18,527 --> 00:33:19,807
Speaker 2: her head and it's just like top.

727
00:33:20,127 --> 00:33:21,807
Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly what it is.

728
00:33:21,927 --> 00:33:25,607
Speaker 2: Classific shit, It's ridiculous. That's good. That's what I do,

729
00:33:26,047 --> 00:33:26,487
Speaker 2: and I've.

730
00:33:26,327 --> 00:33:28,807
Speaker 1: Got no other stimulus. I make my own. My best

731
00:33:29,087 --> 00:33:31,967
Speaker 1: is also related to not the walk, but the weekend

732
00:33:32,567 --> 00:33:35,647
Speaker 1: I went away with my sixteen year old and some

733
00:33:35,727 --> 00:33:40,127
Speaker 1: of his mates, and teenage boys get a really bad rap.

734
00:33:40,287 --> 00:33:43,567
Speaker 1: And I just want to say, there's something certainly the

735
00:33:43,567 --> 00:33:46,247
Speaker 1: ones that I was with on the weekend that I

736
00:33:46,367 --> 00:33:52,807
Speaker 1: just find delightful and kind of vulnerable. And I don't

737
00:33:52,807 --> 00:33:55,127
Speaker 1: even know what to say, Like, teenage girls are a

738
00:33:55,207 --> 00:33:58,287
Speaker 1: very different beast to teenage boys. A group of teenage

739
00:33:58,327 --> 00:34:02,727
Speaker 1: girls are fairly terrifying to be around, but teenage boys

740
00:34:03,167 --> 00:34:05,287
Speaker 1: it can kind of be like being around a litter

741
00:34:05,327 --> 00:34:08,127
Speaker 1: of puppies, Like it's just they're just kind of men,

742
00:34:08,207 --> 00:34:11,607
Speaker 1: but they're boys. If you overhear their conversations, the things

743
00:34:11,647 --> 00:34:14,847
Speaker 1: that they talk about, I'm just really interesting. I don't

744
00:34:14,847 --> 00:34:18,367
Speaker 1: want to breach any confidences, but like unexpected.

745
00:34:17,687 --> 00:34:20,687
Speaker 3: Things and my experience with your sixteen year old are

746
00:34:20,807 --> 00:34:24,007
Speaker 3: just a lot of amazing facts about yeah, about stars,

747
00:34:24,127 --> 00:34:25,127
Speaker 3: and I don't hate.

748
00:34:24,927 --> 00:34:27,367
Speaker 1: It funny the way that there's just certainly when they

749
00:34:27,367 --> 00:34:30,367
Speaker 1: were in this group, there's just not a huge amount

750
00:34:30,407 --> 00:34:32,807
Speaker 1: of angst. It's just all quite funny. And then playing

751
00:34:32,807 --> 00:34:35,487
Speaker 1: cricket and then watching cricket, and I just love being

752
00:34:35,487 --> 00:34:38,287
Speaker 1: around them that kind of you know, boys become men

753
00:34:38,407 --> 00:34:39,127
Speaker 1: kind of vibe.

754
00:34:39,247 --> 00:34:41,487
Speaker 2: Teenage parenting gets a lot of shit, doesn't it.

755
00:34:41,567 --> 00:34:43,807
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does, But I actually find them delightful.

756
00:34:44,047 --> 00:34:46,887
Speaker 2: My worst is related to boys too. It's that well,

757
00:34:46,887 --> 00:34:48,807
Speaker 2: it shouldn't really be my worst, it should be my

758
00:34:48,847 --> 00:34:52,607
Speaker 2: best worst. Like a Paul Kelly Christmas song, it's a bittersweet.

759
00:34:53,167 --> 00:34:57,007
Speaker 2: That's melancholy is that my little boy finished primary school

760
00:34:57,007 --> 00:35:00,327
Speaker 2: this week. And he's my youngest obviously, so that's primary

761
00:35:00,327 --> 00:35:05,967
Speaker 2: school done for me, and like any transition, like any milestone,

762
00:35:06,127 --> 00:35:09,407
Speaker 2: you're kind of delighted because primary school and I'm surehigh

763
00:35:09,407 --> 00:35:11,607
Speaker 2: school seems to be in your life a long time

764
00:35:11,687 --> 00:35:13,487
Speaker 2: if you've got more than one kid, like it's it's

765
00:35:13,527 --> 00:35:14,967
Speaker 2: a lot of years, right, It.

766
00:35:14,887 --> 00:35:17,567
Speaker 1: Feels like longer than high school because in high school

767
00:35:17,607 --> 00:35:19,207
Speaker 1: you're a lot less involved, yes, right.

768
00:35:19,767 --> 00:35:23,087
Speaker 2: And so between Matilda and Billy, now we've had primary

769
00:35:23,087 --> 00:35:25,607
Speaker 2: school in our world for a really long time, and

770
00:35:26,207 --> 00:35:29,567
Speaker 2: he seems still so little to me in a way,

771
00:35:29,607 --> 00:35:32,367
Speaker 2: in that way that boys take a while. So he

772
00:35:32,487 --> 00:35:34,527
Speaker 2: still seems to me like my little boy. But he

773
00:35:34,607 --> 00:35:37,207
Speaker 2: is done with primary school and he is moving on

774
00:35:37,287 --> 00:35:40,607
Speaker 2: up to high school and he is excited, but he's scared.

775
00:35:40,847 --> 00:35:43,927
Speaker 2: And you have to remember too, don't you, because Billy's

776
00:35:43,927 --> 00:35:46,607
Speaker 2: my second, to not be too blase about it, you

777
00:35:46,647 --> 00:35:49,607
Speaker 2: know what I mean, because you know, I've already had

778
00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:52,367
Speaker 2: one kid go into high school and all the sort

779
00:35:52,407 --> 00:35:54,847
Speaker 2: of worry around that. With Billy, I kind of think

780
00:35:54,887 --> 00:35:56,967
Speaker 2: I think it'll be okay, But to him, it's a

781
00:35:57,007 --> 00:35:57,687
Speaker 2: really big deal.

782
00:35:57,967 --> 00:35:59,447
Speaker 1: And it's different for every kid, isn't it.

783
00:35:59,447 --> 00:36:02,007
Speaker 2: It is? And you know, obviously Billy has particular issues

784
00:36:02,127 --> 00:36:05,327
Speaker 2: he's excited, but he's really emotional about saying goodbye to

785
00:36:05,327 --> 00:36:08,407
Speaker 2: this primary school and his friends and the environment, and

786
00:36:08,447 --> 00:36:10,647
Speaker 2: that we move move obviously to this town. And he

787
00:36:10,687 --> 00:36:14,047
Speaker 2: went to this beautiful local school that has really bushy

788
00:36:14,087 --> 00:36:17,207
Speaker 2: and really the teachers have been amazing. Like it's just

789
00:36:17,247 --> 00:36:22,047
Speaker 2: been beautiful. That chapter's over, but it's also it's also

790
00:36:22,167 --> 00:36:24,727
Speaker 2: great to see him doing so well. Anyway, My best

791
00:36:24,767 --> 00:36:28,647
Speaker 2: though is the aforementioned movie How to Make Gravy is

792
00:36:28,727 --> 00:36:31,767
Speaker 2: on Binge and look, I'm not gonna lie.

793
00:36:31,887 --> 00:36:36,127
Speaker 3: It's not brilliant, you're not person Yes, it's.

794
00:36:35,967 --> 00:36:38,847
Speaker 2: Got a very good cast, it's got Hugo Weaving in it,

795
00:36:38,847 --> 00:36:41,367
Speaker 2: it's got lots of really great Aussi actors in it.

796
00:36:41,447 --> 00:36:43,927
Speaker 2: And it's obviously based on this iconic song. It's an

797
00:36:43,927 --> 00:36:47,447
Speaker 2: interesting rider's exercise. I'm sure you too would relate to go.

798
00:36:47,487 --> 00:36:50,487
Speaker 2: Here's a song that everybody knows broadly what it's about.

799
00:36:50,527 --> 00:36:53,487
Speaker 2: The guy's in jail. He's writing about his family. The

800
00:36:53,567 --> 00:36:55,927
Speaker 2: family are named, he's worried his brother's going to get

801
00:36:55,967 --> 00:36:57,847
Speaker 2: him with his wife, he misses his kids, and usually

802
00:36:57,887 --> 00:37:00,407
Speaker 2: he makes Gravy rite a whole show about that. And

803
00:37:00,407 --> 00:37:02,207
Speaker 2: there are lots of places you could take it, right,

804
00:37:02,607 --> 00:37:05,527
Speaker 2: They've chosen to take it to quite I mean an

805
00:37:05,607 --> 00:37:08,767
Speaker 2: unsurprisingly I guess dark place where in prison he's like

806
00:37:09,407 --> 00:37:11,327
Speaker 2: quite violent and all these things, and he gets in

807
00:37:11,367 --> 00:37:13,407
Speaker 2: with this men's group and this is a trauma circle

808
00:37:13,487 --> 00:37:17,207
Speaker 2: and all this. Look it's not awful, but it's not amazing.

809
00:37:17,247 --> 00:37:19,607
Speaker 1: When is it set? It's set now, because I was

810
00:37:19,607 --> 00:37:21,847
Speaker 1: going to say a trauma circle does not sound.

811
00:37:21,967 --> 00:37:24,407
Speaker 2: So the song is from the nineties, and that was

812
00:37:24,447 --> 00:37:27,007
Speaker 2: Brent's main complaint is he wanted it to be set

813
00:37:27,127 --> 00:37:27,807
Speaker 2: in the nineties.

814
00:37:27,887 --> 00:37:28,607
Speaker 1: Too expensive.

815
00:37:28,767 --> 00:37:32,007
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that's right. But anyway, it's not the

816
00:37:32,007 --> 00:37:33,967
Speaker 2: best show. But the reason it's my best is we

817
00:37:34,007 --> 00:37:36,567
Speaker 2: watched it together, all of us as a family over

818
00:37:36,607 --> 00:37:39,327
Speaker 2: two nights on the weekend. Because they know that song,

819
00:37:39,367 --> 00:37:42,087
Speaker 2: they know every word, so they had heaps of fun

820
00:37:42,167 --> 00:37:44,567
Speaker 2: guessing what was going to happen, who was going to

821
00:37:44,607 --> 00:37:47,367
Speaker 2: be who, and then Billy in particular because he's very

822
00:37:47,447 --> 00:37:50,447
Speaker 2: creative kid. Afterwards, we had a very long conversation about

823
00:37:50,447 --> 00:37:53,887
Speaker 2: what he would have done with that source material and

824
00:37:53,967 --> 00:37:56,207
Speaker 2: all the different places he would have taken it, and

825
00:37:56,327 --> 00:37:59,607
Speaker 2: also he said it definitely definitely made him not want

826
00:37:59,647 --> 00:38:00,327
Speaker 2: to go to jail.

827
00:38:00,447 --> 00:38:02,447
Speaker 3: So that's good.

828
00:38:02,047 --> 00:38:07,287
Speaker 2: So family TV fun, that's my best. Jail bad, yeah,

829
00:38:07,367 --> 00:38:07,847
Speaker 2: jail bad.

830
00:38:08,087 --> 00:38:12,407
Speaker 3: Just my word is. I was taking cousin Simon out

831
00:38:12,487 --> 00:38:15,847
Speaker 3: on Saturday morning for coffee. My cousin, Simon is nearly

832
00:38:15,927 --> 00:38:18,967
Speaker 3: forty and he has an intellectual disability, and I was

833
00:38:18,967 --> 00:38:21,407
Speaker 3: taking them out and we were sitting there having coffee

834
00:38:21,447 --> 00:38:24,207
Speaker 3: and this person walked towards us. So Simon looked at

835
00:38:24,207 --> 00:38:27,527
Speaker 3: this person, who was not white, was likely born in

836
00:38:27,567 --> 00:38:30,527
Speaker 3: Australia just like he was, but he said, where are

837
00:38:30,567 --> 00:38:32,367
Speaker 3: you from or where were you born or something like that,

838
00:38:32,407 --> 00:38:35,247
Speaker 3: which is obviously a racist microaggression that we all know now.

839
00:38:35,327 --> 00:38:37,567
Speaker 3: You don't ask a stranger where they were born just

840
00:38:37,607 --> 00:38:39,527
Speaker 3: because they don't look like you. That is not a

841
00:38:39,527 --> 00:38:42,767
Speaker 3: thing we do. But Simon has I don't know what

842
00:38:42,807 --> 00:38:44,727
Speaker 3: it is, but lately I think he gets really excited

843
00:38:44,727 --> 00:38:46,567
Speaker 3: when he's out and about and he wants to make

844
00:38:46,607 --> 00:38:48,967
Speaker 3: small talk with people and he says things.

845
00:38:49,167 --> 00:38:52,047
Speaker 1: And that used to be something that people would say

846
00:38:52,287 --> 00:38:53,327
Speaker 1: as part of small time.

847
00:38:53,407 --> 00:38:54,127
Speaker 2: I'm wondering he.

848
00:38:54,087 --> 00:38:57,327
Speaker 3: Realized yes, because I'm thinking it was not okay. None

849
00:38:57,367 --> 00:38:58,887
Speaker 3: of us would say it, None of his cares would

850
00:38:58,887 --> 00:39:00,567
Speaker 3: say it, but perhaps because he grew up with my

851
00:39:00,607 --> 00:39:03,847
Speaker 3: grandparents in their circles, maybe he's got to have overheard

852
00:39:03,847 --> 00:39:06,487
Speaker 3: it to say it. He'll say do you like boys

853
00:39:06,567 --> 00:39:09,127
Speaker 3: or girls to observer or something if the man is

854
00:39:09,247 --> 00:39:13,607
Speaker 3: particularly enthusiastic, like it's so embarrassing.

855
00:39:13,287 --> 00:39:16,287
Speaker 1: Because born is Simon intellectually.

856
00:39:15,847 --> 00:39:19,327
Speaker 3: Well it's hard to tell, but I mean because he

857
00:39:19,407 --> 00:39:22,967
Speaker 3: presents as a nearly forty year old man, then people

858
00:39:22,967 --> 00:39:26,247
Speaker 3: assume that he's there. Socially, it's very similar to maybe

859
00:39:26,287 --> 00:39:29,207
Speaker 3: being with my little girl in terms of the way

860
00:39:29,247 --> 00:39:32,407
Speaker 3: that the world is perceived. And so I then have

861
00:39:32,527 --> 00:39:35,127
Speaker 3: to go because the personal often say, oh what did

862
00:39:35,167 --> 00:39:39,207
Speaker 3: he ask? Because this guy was lovely, and I tried

863
00:39:39,247 --> 00:39:41,767
Speaker 3: to be like, oh no, hung and Simon just repeats

864
00:39:41,767 --> 00:39:44,687
Speaker 3: it more and more clearly. And I was so apologetic.

865
00:39:44,767 --> 00:39:47,007
Speaker 3: But I guess the best part of this was how

866
00:39:47,487 --> 00:39:51,407
Speaker 3: ridiculously friendly and forgiving this person was. He just went,

867
00:39:51,567 --> 00:39:53,727
Speaker 3: you know what, I wasn't born in Australia. I was

868
00:39:53,727 --> 00:39:56,087
Speaker 3: born here and here's where my you know, family were

869
00:39:56,087 --> 00:39:59,847
Speaker 3: from and stuff, which was so lovely. But it made

870
00:39:59,847 --> 00:40:03,087
Speaker 3: me think about people who must cop that all the time,

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Speaker 3: whether it is a child, someone with dementia, someone who

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Speaker 3: has an intellectual disability.

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Speaker 1: Of different generation. He sort of hasn't caught up. And

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Speaker 1: I think what's lovely about that example is that this

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Speaker 1: person gave Simon the benefit of the doubt and recognized

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Speaker 1: what his intention was. And perhaps that's not always clear,

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Speaker 1: but in the case of him, yeah, he clearly was

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Speaker 1: trying to connect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially that could be in the book the

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Speaker 3: fourth time it happened to that guy today, Like, it's

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Speaker 3: just it's so so awkward, and as a person with them,

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Speaker 3: you just feel very embarrassed. We did have a teaching

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Speaker 3: moment where I said, we do not ask people those questions.

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Speaker 3: What we might say instead is how is your day?

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Speaker 3: But anyway, I'm sure I'll do it again next weekend.

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Speaker 3: My best was that technically tomorrow it is Claire's little

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Speaker 3: girl's first birthday, Matilda, but she had her first birthday

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Speaker 3: party on the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Did you do that deliberately so it didn't cramp your

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Speaker 2: own claarestyle because you're gonna have a massive banging party time.

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Speaker 3: No, actually, Holley, we have a date with the Wiggles

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Speaker 3: at the IC scene. We are going to the concert

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Speaker 3: for that. Yeah, just Clare and I going m Girl's

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Speaker 3: stay home. No, that's for Matilda's birthday.

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Speaker 2: That's so fun at Christmas. I used to do that

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Speaker 2: with the.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually so looking forward to it. But it was

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Speaker 3: a very hungry caterpillar theme. She had these caterpillar overalls on.

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Speaker 3: Claire made a very hungry caterpillar cake.

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Speaker 1: Wow. That book a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did, we did. But in fairness, Matilda is

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Speaker 3: a very hungry caterpillar, like she cannot repeating. So that

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Speaker 3: was just so fun. And I got my mum to

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Speaker 3: watch that by Now documentary that I was talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the one about anti consumerism. Yeah, I think we

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Speaker 2: talked about that when Mayor wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's for the best. I think it

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Speaker 3: was for the best. But my mum has now decided

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Speaker 3: that what she's going to get the girls for their

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Speaker 3: besth dand Christmas is just stuff she knows they love.

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Speaker 3: She brought like a paper bag with like a golf ball,

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Speaker 3: a straw, I think, an empty eye dropper. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: it was Mailda's favorite. She was like, I love so clever.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking that what you can also do is

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Speaker 1: just wrap up toys that they are aready have they

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Speaker 1: don't know because they're just like yay, my bunny. Luna

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Speaker 1: would love my buddy seat.

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Speaker 3: She loves a receipt, She loves like all of it. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: that was very sustainable of us.

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Speaker 2: How loud is that is all we have time for

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Speaker 2: today and for this year, for our regular shows. As

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Speaker 2: we say, there are going to be lots of treats

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Speaker 2: popping up for you.

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Speaker 3: A big thank you to our team group Executive producer

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Speaker 3: and Tom Cruz Baker.

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Speaker 1: Rid herself this week she has MVP.

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Speaker 3: Her prediction, Oh, this is so true. Your fridge is

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Speaker 3: now smarter than you. It guilt trips you for eating

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Speaker 3: leftover pizza at two am with push notifications Like again, really,

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Speaker 3: I can see that happening.

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Speaker 1: Executive producer Emmeline Gazillas. Her twenty twenty five prediction is

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Speaker 1: that we might learn how to pronounce her name properly

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Speaker 1: so she doesn't need to put the pronunciation in our script.

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Speaker 1: Just kidding. Her prediction is the return of skinny jeans

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Speaker 1: to all wardrobes where they rightfully belong.

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Speaker 2: She just hopes that's true because she's.

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Speaker 1: Never given the Marky Winter the back. I'm with that

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Speaker 1: and video producer Josh Green. His predictions are that a

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Speaker 1: billionaire will get lost at sea on a luxury yacht

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Speaker 1: and Kanye West will start his own crypto currency spot on.

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Speaker 3: Our audio producer is Leu Hill, and she predicts that

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Speaker 3: Chapel Rome will tour Australia. She thinks that maybe this

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Speaker 3: is just her trying to manifest, but Chapel romee here

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Speaker 3: next year.

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Speaker 1: I like her. You look, she's all stripped it back.

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Speaker 1: If you've seen Yep, she's taken off all of costume

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Speaker 1: at Ladders. We know that you're not ready to say goodbye,

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Speaker 1: so before we do, we thought we'd leave you with

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a conversation we had on a

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Speaker 1: subscriber episode about how everyone is now lurking on social media.

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Speaker 3: And I also think that there's also been the influx

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Speaker 3: of the group chat. If I have a picture, if

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Speaker 3: I have anything I want to share, I'll share it

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Speaker 3: with those that I'm really close to. I think there's

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Speaker 3: been this muddying, not just for public figures, but for

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Speaker 3: everyone where it's like, do I want the guy I

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Speaker 3: saw for two weeks twelve years ago to see a

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Speaker 3: picture of my child? Like not really I don't need

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Speaker 3: to be engaged in this performance. For everyone I've ever met.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to any Mom and me A subscribers listening.

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Speaker 4: If you love the show and you want to support us,

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Speaker 4: subscribing to mom and Mia is the very best way

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Speaker 4: to do so. There's a link in the episode description.

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Speaker 3: Bye.