Speaker 1: From momamm Out. Welcome to this spill your daily pop
Speaker 1: culture fix.
Speaker 2: I'm Laura Bretneck and I'm Vernum and.
Speaker 1: Coming up on the show today. A shared interest of
Speaker 1: ours the Marvel Cinematic universe. Well, I shared interest of
Speaker 1: ours and a couple of a million people across the
Speaker 1: world a few others. So we had the first trailer
Speaker 1: release for Avengers Doomsday, the new Marvel movie, one of
Speaker 1: the big new team up movies that is coming out,
Speaker 1: and we have some thoughts on that. The world has
Speaker 1: some thoughts on it because it could seek I mean,
Speaker 1: what I'm about to say is outrageous. No one could this.
Speaker 1: It could signal the end of the world's biggest movie
Speaker 1: franchise dot dot dot. Maybe we've got some We haven't
Speaker 1: even discussed the trailer. I know you've got so many.
Speaker 1: Every time we mentioned the trailer, your eyes just light
Speaker 1: up with things that you need to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I want to talk about it so badly.
Speaker 1: Guys, strap in for MS if you like a classic
Speaker 1: Emily Vernon critique.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about it so badly, but I
Speaker 2: couldn't talk about it, so I've just watched it trailer.
Speaker 1: YEA to save it for today, so you're getting exclusive
Speaker 1: on her thoughts. Plus, Megan Mirkale is going to her
Speaker 1: episode of Master's Cheff Australia is going to air this
Speaker 1: weekend that she filmed all she was in Australia and
Speaker 1: apparently she's gotten into a big beef with one of
Speaker 1: the other judges on the show. But we have some
Speaker 1: thoughts on that too because it's a classic women getting
Speaker 1: pitted against each other and we won't stand for it.
Speaker 1: But first, a few little scares in our team this week.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we were gifted of brand new trailer
Speaker 2: yesterday for a new horror movie that's coming out. It's
Speaker 2: starring Jessica Chassain and just from the trailer alone, she
Speaker 2: looks amazing in it. It's called The Other Mammy because
Speaker 2: it's American.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were just saying that week because we just
Speaker 1: say the Other Mummy, but like it's obviously it's spelt
Speaker 1: with an oath.
Speaker 2: When I saw the poster for this, I immediately clicked
Speaker 2: into the trailer because on the poster it says that
Speaker 2: it's also produced by James Wan, who is an Australian filmmaker.
Speaker 2: He's absolutely amazing in her horrors. He's on all the
Speaker 2: insidious movies, the conjuring movies. Anna he saw he is
Speaker 2: absolutely brilliant. What can't that man?
Speaker 1: Has he tried? I bet he could? Well, I bet
Speaker 1: he could.
Speaker 2: A lot of film directors say that they're quite similar,
Speaker 2: like comedy and horror.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to hit those big meats exactly.
Speaker 2: So I reckon he do amazing in the comedy rom
Speaker 2: com space. I mean, he's also produced on back room,
Speaker 2: so he's having a really big moment right now. This
Speaker 2: trailer for this horror movie is so like short and simple,
Speaker 2: and it's one of the scariest things I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: The trailer itself, Like this is why trailers are in
Speaker 1: art form, because the trailer itself an art form when
Speaker 1: they get it right. Because this trailer plays out almost
Speaker 1: like a short film. Do you have like this incredible
Speaker 1: setup and then like almost like a beginning, middle, and end,
Speaker 1: But also it leaves you wanting to see the movie
Speaker 1: and has one of the best jump scare moments that
Speaker 1: I've seen in years.
Speaker 2: The most creative jump.
Speaker 1: Scare, the most creative jump scare moments. So do you
Speaker 1: want to some Before we get into that, we're wishing
Speaker 1: it had watching it her. Do you want to tell
Speaker 1: me what the plot is?
Speaker 2: So the plot is Jessica Chastain. She's a mother of
Speaker 2: a young girl, she has a husband. They live in
Speaker 2: this beautiful, big house. Everything's fine and dandy. But then
Speaker 2: the young girl says there's another mummy, and she's like,
Speaker 2: don't worry, she's very nice, and the family soon learned
Speaker 2: that there's like a clone, I don't know, like a
Speaker 2: woo woo clone of Jessica Chastain in the house that
Speaker 2: looks like that's pretending.
Speaker 1: To be her.
Speaker 2: And the whole movie goes through both of these women
Speaker 2: kind of trying to convince their daughter who the real
Speaker 2: mum is. So I think it's gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: of scenes of going it's me, No, it's me, No,
Speaker 2: it's me and us is the audience is gonna be
Speaker 2: like no, You're like.
Speaker 1: Jessica Chastain is creepy in every seat. I know.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of the Jordan Peel movie Oh Us Yeah,
Speaker 2: well Lupta Nyongo, who was absolutely brilliant, But it's giving.
Speaker 2: It's like evoking that same sense of fear of like
Speaker 2: not knowing who and what a trust.
Speaker 1: Well, the scariest thing when you're a kid, and this
Speaker 1: is why the only thing I get scared of is
Speaker 1: things that scared me, movies that scared me when I
Speaker 1: was a kid. The scariest thing is thinking that there's
Speaker 1: something that your parents can't protect you from, which is
Speaker 1: why movies like The Witches, I hate that movie, it's
Speaker 1: so scary. Movies like that scared you so much, or
Speaker 1: something like this where like your mother, who's meant to
Speaker 1: be the safest person for you as a child, turns evil,
Speaker 1: Like as a kid, we've all had that nightmare.
Speaker 2: I know, And like the voice and like he plays
Speaker 2: this character from the just the trailer alone, it looks
Speaker 2: so well done because she's obviously playing two different characters
Speaker 2: but pretending to be the same person. James One is
Speaker 2: also a really great like producer and director in the space,
Speaker 2: like all the conjuring and insidious movies are kind of similar,
Speaker 2: where most horror movies is like you have the good
Speaker 2: guys and the bad guys, and James One always plays
Speaker 2: in the space where the good guys could also be
Speaker 2: the bad guys, but you don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. So the big jump scared that everyone's talking about.
Speaker 1: So we put this trailer up on our Instagram account,
Speaker 1: the Spill podcast on Instagram. So if you just stop
Speaker 1: quickly now and watch it, do that. But the biggest
Speaker 1: jump scare is so inventive, is when the dad's looking
Speaker 1: around and the evil mummy other mummy. The camera flashes
Speaker 1: to her and she's upside down under the table like
Speaker 1: she's a spider. Yeah, and all her limbs, all her
Speaker 1: limbs are twisted and contorted. And can I just say,
Speaker 1: the biggest joy of my life in the last twenty
Speaker 1: four hours has been showing the trailer to people and
Speaker 1: watching their reaction. Because Chelsea, who's on our team on
Speaker 1: My Entertainment.
Speaker 2: She said she watched it with here.
Speaker 1: Yeah I know, because I knew she hadn't watched it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not that bad, it's so fun. It's
Speaker 1: actually really fun. Let's just watch it. Let's watch it,
Speaker 1: And then she put it on the whole time, I'm
Speaker 1: just like tapping my fingers together in anticipation, And when
Speaker 1: that moment came on, she screamed so loud and she
Speaker 1: threw herself back from the desk with her I actually
Speaker 1: thought the chair was going to split into she was
Speaker 1: so scared and I was so happy.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the video of our producer Mania watching it?
Speaker 2: She fell to the ground screaming, we're going to put that,
Speaker 2: we actually filmed it, We're going to put it on
Speaker 2: our channels.
Speaker 1: But who else can we scare?
Speaker 2: Who else can we scare? And then there's like the
Speaker 2: people that we know. I won't get scared, like our
Speaker 2: video producer Michael, like he loves horror movies, he won't
Speaker 2: get scared.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did jump.
Speaker 2: I wash it on my phone and I jumped when
Speaker 2: I saw that scene that I watched the scene while
Speaker 2: I was reading a comment on the YouTube page saying
Speaker 2: I knew the jump scared was going to happen, and
Speaker 2: I still jumped.
Speaker 1: And as I was reading that, it happened and I jumped.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's absolutely crazy because you know again,
Speaker 1: you know it's coming. Yeah, me, and you still have
Speaker 1: reaction to it. So this movie is based on a
Speaker 1: book which I haven't read, but I kind of almost think, like,
Speaker 1: do I read it before the movie comes out, because
Speaker 1: it's based on the New York Times bestselling novel Incidents
Speaker 1: Around the House.
Speaker 2: And I hate that I love that name, but I
Speaker 2: hate it. At the same time.
Speaker 1: Its Around the House by Josh Mallaman and the long
Speaker 1: Line for the book, and I think the movie is
Speaker 1: very much the book, so for both of them. The
Speaker 1: description is to eight year old Bella. Her family is
Speaker 1: her world. There's Mummy, Daddy and Grandma Ruth, but there's
Speaker 1: also Other Mummy, a malevolent entity who asks her every day,
Speaker 1: can I go inside your heart? And his face? Right now?
Speaker 1: You look so scared, And even though you've seen the tailor,
Speaker 1: when horrifying incidents around the house signal that other Mummy
Speaker 1: is growing tired of asking Bella the question over and
Speaker 1: over again, Bella understands it. Unless she says yes, her
Speaker 1: family will soon pay.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I love horror books. Sometimes i'm reading
Speaker 2: horror books, I'm like jumping while I'm reading it, because
Speaker 2: your imagination goes crazy.
Speaker 1: A scary book will really get you. I often think
Speaker 1: of that scene from Friends where Joey gets so scared
Speaker 1: that he puts the book in the freezer, and I
Speaker 1: was like, not no, because if I'm reading a really
Speaker 1: scary book, I don't like it in my bedroom with
Speaker 1: me at night, like I'll go put it in like
Speaker 1: my front hall. Or something.
Speaker 2: Imaginations can go wild. I am so I cannot wait
Speaker 2: to watch this. I'm equally terrified to watch this.
Speaker 1: Can I just say, can I just address the elephant
Speaker 1: in the room on this though the author or that
Speaker 1: I've seen all the filmmakers. Maybe I've missed something. Maybe
Speaker 1: something will come out. No one is saying that this
Speaker 1: is inspired by Coraline. Have you read Coraline or seen
Speaker 1: the movie?
Speaker 2: No, because I've watched half of the movie when I
Speaker 2: was young, and I'm not even that young. I think
Speaker 2: I was hateen and I was too scared to finish it.
Speaker 2: It's really scary.
Speaker 1: I went to the movies and saw Coraline when I
Speaker 1: was I was in my early twenties, and I was
Speaker 1: I just moved into my first share house and moved
Speaker 1: out of town, and I had to sleep with all
Speaker 1: the lights on the doors locked. I've never been so scared.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a scary movie.
Speaker 1: It's an animated movie. I'm terrifying. But they have an
Speaker 1: other mummy in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's got like buttons for eyes and.
Speaker 1: She and she does the same thing in the in
Speaker 1: this movie Evil Mummy, whatever it's called, it's mummy. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is they've kind of taken the because they
Speaker 1: call it Other Mother and Coraline, and the two, the
Speaker 1: Jessica Chustin character and the Coraline character do similar things
Speaker 1: of like at first they're like really nice and calm
Speaker 1: and like they're maybe they seem nicer than real mom
Speaker 1: because they like let you do stuff. And then they
Speaker 1: both try and like tempt the young girls with like
Speaker 1: food and comfort, and then they turn evil and then
Speaker 1: they have this whole thing of like which one's my mom?
Speaker 1: So I was like, are we not pretending that this
Speaker 1: is not a Coraline like fan fiction?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker 1: I know it's a whole different book and story, and
Speaker 1: I know there's a whole other mythology from what I
Speaker 1: was reading around they like the other Mummy character that's
Speaker 1: not Caraline. But I'm just saying it's a similar vibes.
Speaker 2: Similar vibes. I mean, Caroline did very, very well, so
Speaker 2: I can see the appeal.
Speaker 1: So this movie's coming out to October. Yeah, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have the best time of that screening.
Speaker 2: I know from Evil this, you're gonna be on ther
Speaker 2: It's so no, because that's where she is, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: like reach over it, like, don't even.
Speaker 1: Cinema next day work and they're like am particularly the
Speaker 1: emergency room. Iks. I do think about that as.
Speaker 2: A hard set Jesus.
Speaker 1: So it's been a big week for trailers, such a
Speaker 1: big week for trailers, but this is bigger than a trailer.
Speaker 1: This is even bigger than us, Like we don't want
Speaker 1: to have this conversation. Yeah, I want the Marvel cinemac
Speaker 1: universe to do well, those underdogs that they are. And
Speaker 1: can I also just say if everyone out there who's
Speaker 1: always just like, oh well, it's only men who watch
Speaker 1: Marvel movies, who do you think is buying all those
Speaker 1: movie tickets? If if you take out half the population,
Speaker 1: women love Marvel just as much as men. It's one
Speaker 1: of those things that.
Speaker 2: We love seeing those old men on screens play a superhero.
Speaker 1: Until the end.
Speaker 2: But we are we're the ones watching it. So if
Speaker 2: you're a producer listening to this, give us the interviewing.
Speaker 1: Maybe not after this. No, I'm backing the underdog that
Speaker 1: is the Marvel Cinematic universe all the way. But also
Speaker 1: it's like things like this is why I love sci
Speaker 1: fi and fantasy and things like that, because they do.
Speaker 1: It's a story that caters those heroes against villains epic
Speaker 1: adventures is something that caters to all ages. So when
Speaker 1: you go to a Marvel screening, you see thirteen and
Speaker 1: twelve year old ten year olds there, and you see
Speaker 1: people in their fifties, sixties and seventies, men and women.
Speaker 1: It's our common interest to watch a buff man with
Speaker 1: a weapon fight comically intense evil lord. Great explanation of
Speaker 1: every Marvel movie. So yes, this week, the highly anticipated
Speaker 1: first trailer for Avengers Doomsday was released. Because this has
Speaker 1: been so anticipated because much like the original Avengers, which
Speaker 1: they took over a decade, if anyone's on a cross
Speaker 1: to set up the original Avengers movie, because you had
Speaker 1: to introduce all of the different Avengers separately, you know,
Speaker 1: iron Man, Captain America, all these different superheroes, give them
Speaker 1: their own movies and slowly build and build and build,
Speaker 1: and each movie leading with like easter eggs and clues
Speaker 1: into the next movie before all of your favorite heroes
Speaker 1: come together on the big screen with like Avengers, Avengers, Ultron,
Speaker 1: and then they also all came together in Captain America's
Speaker 1: Civil War. Those were the days that movie literally just
Speaker 1: like threw myself to the screen.
Speaker 2: I was so happy and it was a huge, big
Speaker 2: catalyst for the rest of the movie.
Speaker 1: The storytelling stakes two unlikely allies, Captain America and Iron Man,
Speaker 1: unlikely best friends because they thought they have very different
Speaker 1: ways of thinking, coming together and then their friendship ripped apart.
Speaker 1: Avengers is really a tale of male friendship and.
Speaker 2: It's so true. And like, my favorite genre is action movie,
Speaker 2: but like team action movie, me too. I love the friendship.
Speaker 2: That's why my favorite movies are the expendable movies, because
Speaker 2: it's all about these like groups of like hardy men
Speaker 2: coming together with the power of friendship.
Speaker 1: I love. The power of friendship. Is also why I
Speaker 1: like the Avengures in Marvel. It's often because you just
Speaker 1: love all these different characters, all these backstories and all
Speaker 1: their own They all these epic heroes, but the breaking
Speaker 1: stereotypes because men don't really have friends. I know, they
Speaker 1: can only have This is why like when men's sports
Speaker 1: teams win and they like smash against each other, it's
Speaker 1: because they just want to hug and.
Speaker 2: They want to hang out with their bros.
Speaker 1: But they don't know how they can only do it
Speaker 1: around sporting events, and.
Speaker 2: I think, oh, have they become a superhero?
Speaker 1: Yeah? All at superhero movies. It's the one time men
Speaker 1: are allowed to like show motion and like be like,
Speaker 1: I just want to watch my friends on screen talk
Speaker 1: out their feelings, because what about that epic moment when,
Speaker 1: like when Steve Rogers is like, he's my friend and
Speaker 1: then Tony starts like so was I? Honestly I can't
Speaker 1: the world the world, the world changed killed you know.
Speaker 1: It's all about male friendship and the importance of having
Speaker 1: a broke So that'll happen Age of Ultron and then
Speaker 1: and then the climactic end of the first kind of
Speaker 1: big Stage one of Marvel Stage two with some people
Speaker 1: call it, which was Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Avengers Endgame. I can't even tell you. Well it broke
Speaker 1: me and hard in the title end Game, I know,
Speaker 1: and that's almost where it should have been. But endgame
Speaker 1: is so I've only as an adult, I've only cried
Speaker 1: in the cinema three times at movies. I've only cried
Speaker 1: at movies cinema or home three times, both Wicked movies,
Speaker 1: both Wickeds one and two, and Avengers Endgame. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, IPEd an Avengers Endgame. I sobb so hard
Speaker 1: to have a scar running down my face was a lot. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to tell people about their emotional stage.
Speaker 1: So the Avengers Doomsday trailer came out, and it is
Speaker 1: action packed and also star packed because Chris Hemsworth doing
Speaker 1: the most. We have Chris Hemsworth coming back as Thor,
Speaker 1: we have Pedro Pascal, we have Florence Pugh, Tom Hillston
Speaker 1: the original X Men coming back. Yeah, James Marsden reprising
Speaker 1: his role as Scott Summers aka Cyclops. Patrick Stewart reprising
Speaker 1: his role as Professor Xavier from the Original X Men.
Speaker 1: Never in my lifetime did I think I would see that.
Speaker 1: I can't even get into all the other people. Literally,
Speaker 1: it's like the Fantastic Forecast, and then you've got the Thunderbolts.
Speaker 1: Then you've got just everyone who's been tied to the
Speaker 1: Marble sort of mac universe.
Speaker 2: Is the Wakanda tribe.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much everyone who's like still recently has had
Speaker 2: a movie and who are like in this next phase.
Speaker 2: And I think they're using Thor as one of the
Speaker 2: original Avengers to tie them all in together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's the last of the or so we thought,
Speaker 1: last of the original kind of trio left standing. Because
Speaker 1: even though I always see the original Avengers as like
Speaker 1: a group, I like put Natasha and Clint and everyone
Speaker 1: in that same circle. I guess Marvel always positioned it
Speaker 1: that it was Captain America, iron Man, and Thaw as
Speaker 1: like the three biggies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Thor is the only one still that we're
Speaker 2: still there because they're also the ones that had like
Speaker 2: the biggest standalone movies as well that iron Man and
Speaker 2: Thor started before the Avengers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they all they've all had multiple stint Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I get it in that case. So okay,
Speaker 1: So now that I've set it up and just I've
Speaker 1: just rainbowed about how excited I am. So the trailer
Speaker 1: came out, take us through what was in the trailer,
Speaker 1: Emily and your thoughts. Okay, So spare no feelings. This
Speaker 1: is going to be really hard for me to explain.
Speaker 1: The trailer was so much is happening?
Speaker 2: A lot of handshakes, Yeah, a lot of introductions, didn't
Speaker 2: really undertand what's happening. So it starts with I guess
Speaker 2: thor new haircut is his iback. I couldn't tell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a he's got a mystical eye, don't know.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's got a mystical eye, even though he lost
Speaker 2: it allegedly, so he's back. He is telling the New Avengers. Firstly,
Speaker 2: he's like, where are the guys?
Speaker 1: Where are the boys at?
Speaker 2: And everyone's like, it's us and the Thunderbolts have their
Speaker 2: like knives and stuff, and he's like, oh no, oh no,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 1: Also Thunderbolts if anyone's on a cross. That was the
Speaker 1: movie where it was like Florence Pugh and David Harbor, yeah,
Speaker 1: and why why Russell? A bunch of people in there
Speaker 1: and I you and I saw it maybe together and
Speaker 1: we really liked him. And then the reviews were quite
Speaker 1: mixed and the box office wol think it was okay,
Speaker 1: but it didn't like blow anything away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was like all new, like kind of
Speaker 2: newish superheroes. And if you hadn't watched the TV the
Speaker 2: mini series that Marvel have been releasing throughout the big
Speaker 2: franchise movies, you wouldn't really understand. And the only person
Speaker 2: really holding it together was Sebastian Stan as Bucky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, making that return. So that's just being like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I went from working with like Iron Man
Speaker 1: and Captain America to this rag test.
Speaker 2: So if you've only been watching just the big cinematic movies,
Speaker 2: which I think a lot of people do. Most people do,
Speaker 2: if you don't have a Disney Plus subscription, actually, then
Speaker 2: you'll only really recognize Sebastian stand in that whole movie.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. And also, I guess Florence Peugh as Yelena
Speaker 1: if you watch The Black Widow, yeah, or Avengers Infinity
Speaker 1: War and that sort of stuff, I think she's like
Speaker 1: bit butit is. Yeah. I think that is where one
Speaker 1: of the reasons Marvel has fallen down and they've addressed this.
Speaker 1: They went too hard on all these weird side TV shows,
Speaker 1: and they're like, to understand this big movie, you have
Speaker 1: to watch all these different side TV shows, and people like,
Speaker 1: we're not doing that, which is also unfair.
Speaker 2: A lot to ask from people, And it's the exact
Speaker 2: reason why I stopped watching Chicago Fire because then I
Speaker 2: also had to watch Chicago MD because none of the
Speaker 2: storylines were lining up. I didn't deal there was this
Speaker 2: one time where there was like where there was like
Speaker 2: this collapse in the hospital and the next day it
Speaker 2: was all fine, and I was like, why the ending
Speaker 2: the hospital didn't happen? And I was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: have to watch three episodes of Chicago MD because that's
Speaker 2: where that storyline continues. I couldn't do it. It's too
Speaker 2: much for you to ask me as a viewer, so
Speaker 2: I stopped it.
Speaker 1: You would have died in the prime DC days because
Speaker 1: you had to like this, like the story would start
Speaker 1: an Arrow, then it would go to Flash, then it
Speaker 1: would go to Supergirl, then it would go to Legends
Speaker 1: that I stopped to Batgirl, and so you had to
Speaker 1: watch every But the thing about this is why the
Speaker 1: DC universe works so well because they kept that all
Speaker 1: contain to a perfectly constructed TV universe. Whereas Marvel was
Speaker 1: popping back and forth between cinema and TV shows, they
Speaker 1: had main characters die on the TV show Maria Hill
Speaker 1: died and it died on a side TV show situation,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, that's is that is disrespectful.
Speaker 2: And I think the writing just got so chaotic with
Speaker 2: Marvel because each TV show were doing like exactly what
Speaker 2: you said like these major like plot points, and then
Speaker 2: I think to like make another big franchise movie, they
Speaker 2: would cover up like Sideline shows by just saying it
Speaker 2: was a different universe, and they just got very confusing
Speaker 2: and very message.
Speaker 1: Like one of my favorite TV shows, Agents of Shield
Speaker 1: is no, it's so good, how dare you? But they
Speaker 1: this is an example of the TV universe and the
Speaker 1: movie universe not talking to each other because they built
Speaker 1: this whole huge TV franchise around Shield and then in
Speaker 1: one of the Marvel movies that like Shield is Evil,
Speaker 1: It's gone forever, and the TV like and then they
Speaker 1: had to pivot.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's so it's very very confusing if
Speaker 2: you're not like fully embedded in it. It's still confusing
Speaker 2: even if you are fully embedded in there.
Speaker 1: So keep going with the trailer. Sorry, we've got You're
Speaker 1: one second into the trailer, so.
Speaker 2: Thor comes, he's like, where are the new Avengers? And
Speaker 2: then it's like these guys and it's like Falcon and
Speaker 2: Bucky going, sorry, we tried. We try to put something together.
Speaker 1: That's funny. Sorry that is actually funny.
Speaker 2: It's literally just the two of them. We're trying really hard,
Speaker 2: but this is.
Speaker 1: Who we have. They're like good, They're like, look, budgets
Speaker 1: across the world are being co We can't.
Speaker 2: We couldn't do Spider Man, we couldn't do Hulk.
Speaker 1: It's like just us.
Speaker 2: And then they was like, well, we have the worst
Speaker 2: end boss.
Speaker 1: You know, all those other bad guys that we fought
Speaker 1: over the years that kill people that were stronger than
Speaker 1: you guys, killed my friends way better than you guys.
Speaker 1: This guy who's coming Doomsday even.
Speaker 2: Worse, even worse.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, that's the worst pep talk ever.
Speaker 2: And then we find out that Doomsday is played by
Speaker 2: Robert Downey Jr. We knew this for a while because
Speaker 2: it was announced that Comic Con years ago when we
Speaker 2: took off the mask, and.
Speaker 1: It's the end credits scene in the Last Fantastic Four
Speaker 1: movie too.
Speaker 2: Yes it is. That's so true. And we also got
Speaker 2: a hint of it in the end credits scene in
Speaker 2: the Marvels movie. It was the first glance where we
Speaker 2: see the X Men combining with the Avengers. I mean,
Speaker 2: but the Marvels I don't even think are in it.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, they'll be in it. They'll because they
Speaker 1: just weren't in that the thing is not everyone who's
Speaker 1: in it is in the trailer O, goofty people in
Speaker 1: this movie.
Speaker 2: Because I love that movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah I did too. So that's kind of where things
Speaker 1: are on shaky ground with Marvel because Avengers End Game,
Speaker 1: everyone like mostly critically acclaimed a wrong, like we loved
Speaker 1: this massive, massive, box office huge, and then after that
Speaker 1: they ran into trouble. So like the Marvels underperformed at
Speaker 1: the box office, and the critics weren't very nice about it,
Speaker 1: the fans weren't nice about it. A lot of that
Speaker 1: is rotten in sexism, I will say. Also Captain America
Speaker 1: Brave You Well, which saw Anthony Mackie take over as
Speaker 1: Captain America from Chris Evans, and that's got to be said,
Speaker 1: that's also steeped in some racism.
Speaker 2: It is, and that movie was brilliant with Harrison Ford.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a really good movie.
Speaker 1: Well that's that's the thing. You and I different. You
Speaker 1: thought it was an incredible movie. I thought it was
Speaker 1: like pretty good, but I didn't think it deserved any
Speaker 1: of the hate that it lad. And I thought it
Speaker 1: was very telling that people like, we're not watching this
Speaker 1: and then Thunderbolts. I really I thought Thunderbolts was great,
Speaker 1: and I don't even think people gave it a chance.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. It's been like a bit of
Speaker 1: a downward turn for Marvel, and everyone thought Avengers Doomsday
Speaker 1: was really going to bring it back, which it will,
Speaker 1: like it's going to make so much money, but will
Speaker 1: it keep the spirit alive?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very hard to say, and it is interesting
Speaker 2: because it does feel like the Marvel really tried to
Speaker 2: nail it. So it is a kind just from the
Speaker 2: trailer alone, so we can't judge the movie right now,
Speaker 2: but from the trailer. I was a bit disappointed because
Speaker 2: there were so many announcements before this one where we
Speaker 2: got news of them like redoing shoots and pulling pushing
Speaker 2: the date back, the release date back further and further,
Speaker 2: which I didn't mind because I'm like, it feels like
Speaker 2: they're really trying.
Speaker 1: To mailize, please get this right. The thing is like
Speaker 1: the thing about Infinity War in particular, is that there's
Speaker 1: so many people in that movie and yet it works
Speaker 1: so well, Like that movie is a masterclass in like
Speaker 1: storytelling and pacing. Because everyone's people don't get a lot
Speaker 1: of screen time, but when they do, it hits so
Speaker 1: well and the story moves so incredibly fast. Every it's
Speaker 1: all killed, no filler, And I think that they need
Speaker 1: Doomsday to be a too, and it doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: it will. And also one thing is, like I've got
Speaker 1: to say it out loud. I love these men to death.
Speaker 1: I know they're a little problematic. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: a little disappointed in Robert Downey Jr. And Chris Evans
Speaker 1: because they both made such a big deal about their
Speaker 1: characters having this big heroes ending and ending that chapter
Speaker 1: of the Marvel Universe, and they both said it would
Speaker 1: be crazy for us to just come back, and yet
Speaker 1: they're both coming back, and Robert Downing June is coming
Speaker 1: back as a villain, which I kind of hate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's what I was saying before about them
Speaker 2: coming back through the loophole of it being a different universe,
Speaker 2: and it's like universe is combining, and I honestly think
Speaker 2: it's just lazy, right.
Speaker 1: It feels disrespectful to Tony Stark, and I know that's
Speaker 1: the whole point. Is like Doomsay's wearing his face upset them.
Speaker 1: I get I get it. No one at me about this,
Speaker 1: because I understand the mechanics of the storytelling, but I
Speaker 1: just feel like it was also felt really gimmicky for
Speaker 1: Robert Downey Junior to come back in this way. I
Speaker 1: hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. He's an incredible actor,
Speaker 1: and I love that character of Tony Stark. I think
Speaker 1: he did amazing things with it. But I just also
Speaker 1: feel this feels a bit of a cheap. And then
Speaker 1: also Chris Evans, like we obviously don't know the mechanics
Speaker 1: of him there.
Speaker 2: I have a feeling it's just mystiq. Yeah, And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: so you've paid like this huge cameo role for Chris Evans.
Speaker 2: We don't know like why he's in the film or
Speaker 2: what his purpose is in the film. But the film,
Speaker 2: like just from the trailer alone, it's all just cameos,
Speaker 2: like to show everyone's face and all just different groups
Speaker 2: meeting people, like the tribes in Wakanda meeting the Fantastic Four.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't know this, Like I don't
Speaker 2: know what the actual storyline is going to be if
Speaker 2: a lot of this time is taken up with us
Speaker 2: seeing everyone get introduced to each other.
Speaker 1: But they did that in Infinity Warrant at Work, so
Speaker 1: maybe it's the same people. It's the same the rest
Speaker 1: of the Ruso brothers. Do we who doing this movie,
Speaker 1: so like they'll be I feel like they can do it.
Speaker 1: They just have fallen down.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to go into it watching it like
Speaker 2: it's not really part of the Marvel Cinematic universe. Absolutely
Speaker 2: don't do that, and that it's just a standalone movie,
Speaker 2: because I also don't like going to the movies and
Speaker 2: then being disappointed, So I don't want to set myself
Speaker 2: up no disappointed, to.
Speaker 1: Just be like I just like to see some of
Speaker 1: my face on screen. The last thing we'll say on
Speaker 1: this is that the trailer itself coming in the week
Speaker 1: when The Odyssey is still blowing up. There has been
Speaker 1: some questions raised because some people like, obviously they had
Speaker 1: always planned to release it now, but did they release
Speaker 1: it with the thought of everyone's like the Odyssey, Yeah,
Speaker 1: movies cinema and they saw this and they're like, ooh,
Speaker 1: practical effects need to be here, yeah, which yeah, I
Speaker 1: just because like you thought, did you think that when
Speaker 1: you saw the trailer that it looked a little.
Speaker 2: When I saw the trailer. I was literally like, sh now,
Speaker 2: not now, maybe.
Speaker 1: Avengers Doomsday home.
Speaker 2: I'm not now and you can even tell like even
Speaker 2: Thorn the trailer's like yeah, not now. It's like, thank
Speaker 2: god we have Florence peer with her knife.
Speaker 1: Ye Doomsday, say, Florence Pea is doing a lot of
Speaker 1: the heavy lifting. She's probably out there being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I had to make Don't Worry Darling by myself. Now
Speaker 1: I have to make Adventures Doomsday by myself. So Avengers
Speaker 1: Doomsday and also just Marvel. Obviously we just gave you
Speaker 1: some tough love, but we we love you. We're rooting
Speaker 1: for you. As I said, I love an underdog. So
Speaker 1: I want the Marble Cinematic Universe to do well. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be seated. I mean, obviously see this movie
Speaker 1: at least twice in cinemas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's going to be like around Christmas
Speaker 2: time right, coming out out.
Speaker 1: December seventeenth in cinema, cancel you Christ's clansby Family, so
Speaker 1: you can just watch us over and over again.
Speaker 2: You're gonna want to do this. So it's only been
Speaker 2: a few months since we were graced with the presence
Speaker 2: of Meghan and Harry here down Under. I think they
Speaker 2: were here around April, and we knew when they were
Speaker 2: down here they were doing a lot of talks. Meghan
Speaker 2: famously went to a mini women's retreat in Coulji to
Speaker 2: do a talk there and have a dinner there. And
Speaker 2: then while they were here, we also found out that
Speaker 2: she appeared on our Master Chef show as a celebrity
Speaker 2: guest for one of the episodes, and that episode is
Speaker 2: going to be airing this Sunday. Now, even though the
Speaker 2: episode hasn't come out, we're already starting to hear some
Speaker 2: of the things that happened behind the scenes. According to
Speaker 2: page six, we found out that Meghan was allegedly not
Speaker 2: really impressed with her kind of stint on Master Chef,
Speaker 2: and she was specifically not impressed with master Chef's favorite
Speaker 2: judge polling yow. I feel like we can say it's
Speaker 2: our favorite judge, right. Yeah, she's like a bottle of sunshine.
Speaker 1: Honestly, that woman is just so charismatic on TV, like
Speaker 1: she's just in real life too. I had matter a
Speaker 1: few times, like humblebreag. But also that's why she's such
Speaker 1: a good TV host, is that she radiates warmth and
Speaker 1: energy across the screen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she Poe has also been doing the promotional
Speaker 2: part of like showcasing that Meghan's going to be on
Speaker 2: the show, and in one of the promotional clips, Poe said,
Speaker 2: We've had Master Chef Royalty in the kitchen before, but
Speaker 2: no one like this all the way from Sunny California.
Speaker 2: Please welcome to Master Chef Australia the Duchess of Sussex,
Speaker 2: Meghan Markel. And it's been alleged that Meghan Markle did
Speaker 2: not like that introduction at all. Now it's gone into
Speaker 2: a whole thing and this has all been reported by
Speaker 2: Sky News and Page six, so nothing like no Camp
Speaker 2: has officially spoken or made a statement, but it's been
Speaker 2: alleged that Poe wanted to apologized to Megan Markel for it.
Speaker 2: She didn't want to be wrapped up in this whole
Speaker 2: like Royalty tobaccle with the names and things like that,
Speaker 2: but she was told that let the producers handle it
Speaker 2: with her people. When I read this, I was a
Speaker 2: bit like, firstly, like everyone was actually getting really excited
Speaker 2: for this episode of to see Megan Markele on TV
Speaker 2: because it feels like everything they did when they were
Speaker 2: in Australia was very like in person event. We could
Speaker 2: only see them if you could buy a three hundred
Speaker 2: dollars ticket or if you were invited to any of
Speaker 2: these events. So it's like we're getting a glimpse of
Speaker 2: Megan Markele. The rest of Australia is getting a glimpse
Speaker 2: of her just on us screens, which I thought was
Speaker 2: quite nice. And now when I'm reading like all of
Speaker 2: this stuff that's happening behind the scenes, including all of
Speaker 2: this stuff that's just happened when she took her kids
Speaker 2: over to England to meet their grandfather, it's not really
Speaker 2: working out.
Speaker 1: In her favor, no, And this is why I mean,
Speaker 1: this whole situation is disappointing yet predictable because when it
Speaker 1: was announced that Mega Markel was going to be on
Speaker 1: Master's Chef Australia, it was the statement that came from
Speaker 1: her was like cooking and food is my love language
Speaker 1: and I'm so excited about this, And like, if there's
Speaker 1: one thing we know about that woman, cooking and food
Speaker 1: is her love language, lifestyle. She loves cooking something, she
Speaker 1: loves she loves dressing up a plate, she loves plating,
Speaker 1: it up, as they say on Masterschef, and she's been
Speaker 1: doing that since she was an actress, back with her
Speaker 1: blog The Tig pre feuding with the Royal Family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she loves a little flower sprinkle exactly. She alleged
Speaker 2: loves jam.
Speaker 1: Jam preserves. Oh yeah, not dead that again. So it
Speaker 1: felt very fitting that she would be on this show,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that's why she agreed to. I'm sure
Speaker 1: every TV show was trying to get her onto something,
Speaker 1: but this really fits with her brand, and you think
Speaker 1: like her and Poe would get along so well because
Speaker 1: they both had that like fun hostess energy and they
Speaker 1: both love food. I'm sure they could talk for hours
Speaker 1: about that. And so I just have to say, in
Speaker 1: defense of Megan, Markele and Poe, is that this whole
Speaker 1: thing feels like a beat up. This whole thing feels
Speaker 1: like we've seen two prominent women and also two women
Speaker 1: of color, which is always more of a lightning rod
Speaker 1: for criticism that because they're appearing on a show together,
Speaker 1: this whole pitting women against each other, they're having a few.
Speaker 1: Megan was awful, pose upset. This feels like it's been
Speaker 1: fabricated for extra headlines, right, and.
Speaker 2: Even if it was like a big problem, which I
Speaker 2: actually don't think it was, I reckon just from like
Speaker 2: the industry in general, it would have literally been something
Speaker 2: so like small and minuscule, like a staff member in
Speaker 2: Meghan's cam but telling a producer on Mastership going just
Speaker 2: FYI can we just change the promo around a little.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But the thing is, we like I looked into
Speaker 1: this everyway and I couldn't find any source connected to
Speaker 1: either of them that had alluded to this. So we've
Speaker 1: only got page six in Sky News reporting and it's
Speaker 1: all like this person said, a source said. This person said, like,
Speaker 1: there's no there's no proof that this happened. And yes,
Speaker 1: we know that sometimes Megan does like correct her title,
Speaker 1: but she has used Meghan Michael Dutchess of Sussex official.
Speaker 1: Like I think there was a front cover of children's
Speaker 1: book it was like a book by Megan Duchess of Sussex.
Speaker 1: I know that was a while ago. But then obviously
Speaker 1: there was that whole thing on Her with Love Megan
Speaker 1: Netflix show where she corrects Mindy Kaling and says Megan Sussex. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think that they're obviously like kind of like
Speaker 1: cherry picking little moments and then they put them together
Speaker 1: to sort of create this very predictable drama, and then
Speaker 1: at the same time, then we know nothing about how
Speaker 1: Pose reacted. Yeah, the story I saw was like she
Speaker 1: heard that Meghan Markle was upset, and then she was
Speaker 1: upset and she asked production if she could reach out
Speaker 1: apologize and they said, no, no, production will reach out.
Speaker 1: Like this is whole this is this reads like a
Speaker 1: little page turner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's literally like a gossip column. And then there's
Speaker 2: also a part where page six in their article have
Speaker 2: said Another source also said that they had to cut
Speaker 2: so many scenes and the mastershare filming because there was
Speaker 2: such a stark difference between Poe and Megan, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: that seems very unnecessary. And the thing about just talking.
Speaker 1: About food exactly the thing to say like, oh, we
Speaker 1: couldn't air scenes with poem Meghan because yeah, they were.
Speaker 1: They were bristling up against each other and it was
Speaker 1: so tense. It's just so kind of interesting and disheartening
Speaker 1: with the way that like media and news cycles and
Speaker 1: celebrity news and gossip works at the moment, is that
Speaker 1: these headlines have now gone out everywhere in the if
Speaker 1: you read through the actual articles, it does say like
Speaker 1: we heard from a source allegedly, but none of the
Speaker 1: headlines or the tiktoks or the video is about it
Speaker 1: have said that. So now this has been reported as
Speaker 1: fact and now people believe it. And once people believe
Speaker 1: the first story, they hear like that's it, Like it's
Speaker 1: out there now that people believe that poem Meghan are
Speaker 1: like sworn enemies.
Speaker 2: Over I know, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: And also there's all these other conspiracy theories linked to
Speaker 1: Harry's visit to the UK. So there's multiple conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: because the trailer for Meghan Markle being on Master Chef
Speaker 1: Australia was released the same day as Prince George turned
Speaker 1: thirteen and those portraits of him were released, So there
Speaker 1: is there is a group of people out there who
Speaker 1: do believe that Markle has somehow orchestrated her Master Chef
Speaker 1: promo to steal the thunder of Prince George's thirteenth birthday.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: So not only is she feuding with Poe a Strange
Speaker 1: a Strange, she's feuding with her thirteen year old strange nephew.
Speaker 1: If things are to be believed. George's at home fuming
Speaker 1: watching the Master Chef promos. I hate Master Chef.
Speaker 2: Put the flower sprinkles away.
Speaker 1: George is in the comments under his burner accounts, being
Speaker 1: like I heard she fall with both. It was George
Speaker 1: who did all. He's the page six sauce as of
Speaker 1: his thirteenth birthday, he was gifted minions. Normally, those royal
Speaker 1: minions who go in feed like that. They call them
Speaker 1: their press secretaries who go to feed store. The whispery
Speaker 1: is right, the men in suits who go and whisper
Speaker 1: things to her. And he's like, for my first use
Speaker 1: of my whispering, I shall take down Megan Markle on
Speaker 1: MasterChef Australia. No, but again we're laughing because this is funny,
Speaker 1: but people believe this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's also come at the same time with Prince Harry's
Speaker 1: visit to the UK. There were so many headlines around
Speaker 1: that about like Meghan being like banned from going places,
Speaker 1: and then the story that's come out is that Prince
Speaker 1: Harry was only allowed to see his father, King Charles
Speaker 1: under the caveat They had multiple witnesses present because they're like,
Speaker 1: he lies, he spins stories. We can't see him and look,
Speaker 1: this might be true, but I'm just saying we don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also that they had to sneak Meghan and
Speaker 2: the kids in and the one saw them come in
Speaker 2: because they had like a front which was like a
Speaker 2: big Chanelle show in the estate. Because it does like,
Speaker 2: look if photos at that official meeting they had with
Speaker 2: the kids and Meghan and Harry and King Charles, if
Speaker 2: photos do get leaked of that, it makes Harry and
Speaker 2: Meghan look really good and it shows that they can
Speaker 2: still have this big life outside of the royal family
Speaker 2: and still be Royals, and it doesn't make the other camp,
Speaker 2: which is the William camp, look good at all. So
Speaker 2: it's going to be really interesting to see if we
Speaker 2: ever ever do see those photos, because we know exact
Speaker 2: factly what they would say published absolutely.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I guess it's kind of fun that Australias,
Speaker 1: I mean, not fun, but it's kind of interesting that
Speaker 1: Australia like us too.
Speaker 2: We're still part of the Commonwealth.
Speaker 1: It's like we're involved in the royal drama too. And
Speaker 1: to be involved, you know, like you want to be
Speaker 1: in with the cool kids, you got to set like
Speaker 1: you know, you've got to bring some dirt to the table.
Speaker 1: And our dirt is like, look at this master chef
Speaker 1: gossip that we invented. So but also like the thing
Speaker 1: is like you have to kind of eye roll it.
Speaker 1: You have to kind of think of the runny when
Speaker 1: you but but the thing is like watching it, I
Speaker 1: was really disheartened because I know it's a tailor as
Speaker 1: old as time. It's like a beautiful women in the
Speaker 1: public eye doing bad things will always generate coverage and clicks,
Speaker 1: and this like generated international coverage, international coverage, and then
Speaker 1: to up it even more, two women fighting even in
Speaker 1: both in the public eye. That is, that's just like
Speaker 1: printing traffic and downloads to your podcast or views on
Speaker 1: your TikTok or people reading your articles, like and that's
Speaker 1: obviously why it's happening, but it is kind of indicative
Speaker 1: of how much like all we want to see women
Speaker 1: pitted against each other. All we want to see is
Speaker 1: the downfall of women, but particularly women in the public
Speaker 1: eye who like are of color, or who's speaking out
Speaker 1: about different things, or who don't kind of toe this
Speaker 1: line of like I'm the funny, cool girl who will
Speaker 1: keep quiet kind of thing like and so that's really
Speaker 1: just happening too, because I I just saw that and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, so if you.
Speaker 2: See this news out there, just know, like, remember it
Speaker 2: was George specifically, it was all alleged. It's all sources.
Speaker 2: So when you see a little TikTok bites, it's not exactly.
Speaker 1: And get excited for Megan on Mastershire someday. I'm sure
Speaker 1: she and had a lovely time. And you know what,
Speaker 1: even if they didn't, sometimes you just don't get along.
Speaker 2: If I was a contestant on that shirt, I'd freak
Speaker 2: out because I would not have flower sprinkles or like
Speaker 2: a little honey sawbet on the show.
Speaker 1: Like climbing a tree outside.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I need some flower arrangement. I need
Speaker 2: to start rapping things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to make your calligraphy. Go your calligraphy.
Speaker 1: The steaks could not be high, my god.
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