1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:13,465 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,505 Speaker 2: Mama Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:20,345 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. When we talk about 4 00:00:20,425 --> 00:00:23,105 Speaker 2: beauty in France, we talk about skincare. We don't talk 5 00:00:23,105 --> 00:00:26,265 Speaker 2: about makeup. It's all about the skin, the growing skin. 6 00:00:26,385 --> 00:00:29,905 Speaker 2: You know, makeup stale. Just to beautify your skin, but 7 00:00:29,985 --> 00:00:33,185 Speaker 2: not to hide it. Makeup is my therapy. 8 00:00:33,425 --> 00:00:36,425 Speaker 1: I'm in love, I'm obsessed and I don't even feel 9 00:00:36,465 --> 00:00:41,585 Speaker 1: guilty about it. Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the 10 00:00:41,665 --> 00:00:44,665 Speaker 1: daily podcast for your Face. I'm Aaron Dockerty and welcome 11 00:00:44,665 --> 00:00:47,905 Speaker 1: to the formula. Every week I sit down with celebs 12 00:00:47,945 --> 00:00:50,065 Speaker 1: and some of the biggest names in beauty and take 13 00:00:50,105 --> 00:00:53,905 Speaker 1: a look into their skincarey teams and in celebration of 14 00:00:53,985 --> 00:00:58,425 Speaker 1: Paras Olympics. Just starting, we've brought in Emily Robinson, the 15 00:00:58,585 --> 00:01:02,745 Speaker 1: very chic Parisian behind Australia's only digital destination for French 16 00:01:02,785 --> 00:01:07,025 Speaker 1: beauty French Beauty Co. In case you aren't familiar, French 17 00:01:07,065 --> 00:01:10,425 Speaker 1: Beauty Co is an online hub that offers halt French 18 00:01:10,505 --> 00:01:14,505 Speaker 1: favorites and hard to find European products. Emily saw a 19 00:01:14,545 --> 00:01:17,425 Speaker 1: gap in the market for authentic French beauty brands and 20 00:01:17,505 --> 00:01:20,905 Speaker 1: seized the opportunity to bring a touch of Parisian elegance 21 00:01:20,945 --> 00:01:23,785 Speaker 1: to the Aussie market. And with a background that includes 22 00:01:23,865 --> 00:01:27,465 Speaker 1: helping to launch Bioderma in Australia, she's a veteran in 23 00:01:27,505 --> 00:01:31,065 Speaker 1: the cosmetics industry. Emily is here today to reveal the 24 00:01:31,185 --> 00:01:35,385 Speaker 1: essentials every French woman carries in their handbag, plus why 25 00:01:35,505 --> 00:01:39,305 Speaker 1: everyone is so obsessed with French products and the latest 26 00:01:39,305 --> 00:01:41,825 Speaker 1: trends in French beauty, so you'll be ahead of the 27 00:01:41,865 --> 00:01:44,225 Speaker 1: curve by the time they hit us here in Australia. 28 00:01:44,585 --> 00:01:48,225 Speaker 2: You are such beautiful skill. But how. 29 00:01:49,545 --> 00:01:52,465 Speaker 1: Hi, Emily, thank you so much for joining us today. 30 00:01:52,625 --> 00:01:54,945 Speaker 1: I want to start by asking you a little bit 31 00:01:55,025 --> 00:01:58,785 Speaker 1: about what led you to bring French beauty code to Australia. 32 00:01:59,465 --> 00:02:01,705 Speaker 2: Ooh okay, all right, well, thank you so much for 33 00:02:01,745 --> 00:02:05,945 Speaker 2: having me today. We started in two tenty eighteen. It 34 00:02:05,985 --> 00:02:09,545 Speaker 2: came to the idea that I started actually working in 35 00:02:09,745 --> 00:02:12,505 Speaker 2: beauty about fifteen years ago, and I've always worked for 36 00:02:12,705 --> 00:02:15,745 Speaker 2: French beauty brand, so it's always been a passion of mine. 37 00:02:16,185 --> 00:02:18,425 Speaker 2: We could see that they were huge domen for French 38 00:02:18,465 --> 00:02:20,825 Speaker 2: beauty and they were a huge gap on the market, 39 00:02:20,945 --> 00:02:24,425 Speaker 2: so there were definitely something that we could do. The 40 00:02:24,505 --> 00:02:26,865 Speaker 2: last couple of years, there's been more and more men. 41 00:02:26,905 --> 00:02:29,585 Speaker 2: We could see people we're so keen and so that's 42 00:02:29,625 --> 00:02:32,705 Speaker 2: how we really started. So we started from very small 43 00:02:32,745 --> 00:02:35,825 Speaker 2: website with a couple of French like pure French pharmacy 44 00:02:35,865 --> 00:02:38,825 Speaker 2: brand and then we've moved a bit more into beauty 45 00:02:38,865 --> 00:02:41,745 Speaker 2: on its own lifestyle. It's been really good. It's been 46 00:02:41,785 --> 00:02:43,825 Speaker 2: going really well the last couple of years. 47 00:02:44,065 --> 00:02:46,265 Speaker 1: Why do you think there's such a big demand for 48 00:02:46,305 --> 00:02:50,105 Speaker 1: French beauty in Australia Because, ohs this just loved French 49 00:02:50,145 --> 00:02:51,065 Speaker 1: beauty a lot. 50 00:02:51,425 --> 00:02:54,665 Speaker 2: When I first came to Australia over fifteen years ago, 51 00:02:55,185 --> 00:02:58,945 Speaker 2: there were only one so called French pharmacy brand in Australia. 52 00:02:59,385 --> 00:03:01,665 Speaker 2: So it was on the event at the time, and 53 00:03:01,865 --> 00:03:05,865 Speaker 2: the environment for beauty if I talk about Australian pharmacies 54 00:03:05,985 --> 00:03:08,385 Speaker 2: was completely different. A lot of things have changed the 55 00:03:08,425 --> 00:03:10,705 Speaker 2: last couple of years. I think I'll probably start with 56 00:03:11,745 --> 00:03:15,425 Speaker 2: the fact that the simplicity French beauty and in its 57 00:03:15,465 --> 00:03:19,385 Speaker 2: purest form, you know, it's minimal, it's simple, it's efforltless. 58 00:03:19,745 --> 00:03:22,905 Speaker 2: We prefer a simplictic routine as opposed to like a 59 00:03:22,945 --> 00:03:26,985 Speaker 2: twelve step beauty skin care routine. And I think that 60 00:03:27,185 --> 00:03:30,305 Speaker 2: element that simplicity has in speak to a lot of Australian. 61 00:03:30,705 --> 00:03:34,385 Speaker 2: When we talk about beauty in France, we talk about skincare. 62 00:03:34,385 --> 00:03:37,065 Speaker 2: We don't talk about makeup. It's all about the skin, 63 00:03:37,185 --> 00:03:40,865 Speaker 2: the glowing skin. Makeups there just to beautify your skin, 64 00:03:41,185 --> 00:03:44,265 Speaker 2: but not to hide it. So I think I think 65 00:03:44,265 --> 00:03:47,225 Speaker 2: they were also looking more for hybrid product, multi purpose 66 00:03:47,265 --> 00:03:50,105 Speaker 2: product because you know, not so much time. Just wanted 67 00:03:50,145 --> 00:03:52,585 Speaker 2: like a bib cream, a bit of coverage and SPF, 68 00:03:52,625 --> 00:03:56,145 Speaker 2: but not a full foundation and all the step. Another 69 00:03:56,225 --> 00:03:58,905 Speaker 2: one I think is that when we talk about French 70 00:03:58,985 --> 00:04:02,065 Speaker 2: beauty or French pharmacy, we talk about products that are 71 00:04:02,065 --> 00:04:05,945 Speaker 2: formulated for very sensitive skin, and I think Australian they're 72 00:04:05,945 --> 00:04:09,345 Speaker 2: really into Now I'm in product that are safe but 73 00:04:09,785 --> 00:04:13,225 Speaker 2: that are very efficient. People really want to see a result. 74 00:04:13,545 --> 00:04:16,385 Speaker 2: I think that's why ingredients like retinal of victim in 75 00:04:16,425 --> 00:04:19,185 Speaker 2: sea are so popular. People want to see a result 76 00:04:19,265 --> 00:04:23,345 Speaker 2: quite quickly. So that element of that French pharmacy, the 77 00:04:23,425 --> 00:04:28,225 Speaker 2: fact that it's backed up by pharmacist, by dermatologists, it's trustworthy, 78 00:04:28,385 --> 00:04:31,185 Speaker 2: there's no fuss it's not about the fussy packaging. I 79 00:04:31,225 --> 00:04:34,065 Speaker 2: know when we launched one of the first French brands 80 00:04:34,065 --> 00:04:36,425 Speaker 2: in Australia, which was Bioderma. At the time, we went 81 00:04:36,465 --> 00:04:40,065 Speaker 2: to see pharmacists and some doctor and they said to us, 82 00:04:40,545 --> 00:04:43,145 Speaker 2: look at your packaging. The ugly that's never going to work. 83 00:04:43,905 --> 00:04:46,225 Speaker 2: And we were like, you know, he said this to 84 00:04:46,265 --> 00:04:49,025 Speaker 2: someone Now that larosh pose, then people would be like, no, 85 00:04:49,185 --> 00:04:52,785 Speaker 2: it's a great sunscreen, it's fine. I think that's also changed. 86 00:04:52,825 --> 00:04:55,945 Speaker 2: The mentality for Australia has changed. People want if you 87 00:04:55,985 --> 00:04:59,185 Speaker 2: can see, and it's not about the look. And probably 88 00:04:59,185 --> 00:05:01,705 Speaker 2: a last one for me is very important and I 89 00:05:01,745 --> 00:05:04,985 Speaker 2: think that speaks to a lot of Australian affordability. French 90 00:05:05,225 --> 00:05:07,945 Speaker 2: beauty in general is quite affordable. You know, they are 91 00:05:07,985 --> 00:05:10,425 Speaker 2: sold in French pharmacy in French, but here you know 92 00:05:10,465 --> 00:05:13,945 Speaker 2: in the price line the kimsisuans they're affordable and they're efficient. 93 00:05:14,345 --> 00:05:16,465 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people now they don't want 94 00:05:16,465 --> 00:05:19,465 Speaker 2: to spend one hundred dollars on a mosturizer. If they 95 00:05:19,465 --> 00:05:22,905 Speaker 2: can find something for seventy dollars a great vita mean 96 00:05:23,345 --> 00:05:26,425 Speaker 2: serum that does well, they're going to keep using. 97 00:05:26,225 --> 00:05:29,425 Speaker 1: It well It's definitely changed the game, and not having 98 00:05:29,545 --> 00:05:32,545 Speaker 1: to go to France to get our favorite beauty products 99 00:05:32,625 --> 00:05:35,825 Speaker 1: is a major plus. There's so many amazing brands, and 100 00:05:35,865 --> 00:05:37,985 Speaker 1: as you said, some of them aren't sexy, some of 101 00:05:38,025 --> 00:05:41,145 Speaker 1: them look a little boring, but hey, they are backed 102 00:05:41,145 --> 00:05:43,345 Speaker 1: by science and that's what we like to see. 103 00:05:43,745 --> 00:05:44,305 Speaker 2: I want to. 104 00:05:44,425 --> 00:05:48,905 Speaker 1: Move into the classic French beauty trends. I basically want 105 00:05:48,945 --> 00:05:51,185 Speaker 1: you to tell us how can we look like a 106 00:05:51,265 --> 00:05:52,225 Speaker 1: Chikh French lady. 107 00:05:53,545 --> 00:05:56,585 Speaker 2: I love how everyone talk about the French chic things. 108 00:05:56,745 --> 00:05:59,585 Speaker 2: As I say, it's all about that simplicity, So I 109 00:05:59,625 --> 00:06:03,225 Speaker 2: think it's really the skincare component is key, and it's 110 00:06:03,265 --> 00:06:06,305 Speaker 2: all about that make up, no makeup, look you know 111 00:06:06,425 --> 00:06:11,145 Speaker 2: that glowing skin, so moisturizing. It's key. One of the 112 00:06:11,185 --> 00:06:14,345 Speaker 2: brand that's doing really well, and I think that's really unbodied. 113 00:06:14,345 --> 00:06:17,545 Speaker 2: The concept of French beauty is Onmbryolis. They're really well 114 00:06:17,585 --> 00:06:21,385 Speaker 2: known for their leg Creme Concentrate, which is a multipurpose moturizer, 115 00:06:21,705 --> 00:06:25,545 Speaker 2: primer or crime cleanser. I think this is really the concept. 116 00:06:25,585 --> 00:06:29,145 Speaker 2: It's like it's a product that does everything that's just 117 00:06:29,265 --> 00:06:32,785 Speaker 2: gentle and just make the skin glow. So I think 118 00:06:32,865 --> 00:06:35,465 Speaker 2: that's a product like if you can have that in 119 00:06:35,505 --> 00:06:39,505 Speaker 2: your kid, you will see direct result because a glowing, 120 00:06:39,545 --> 00:06:43,145 Speaker 2: skill hydrated skin. I feel like already it's a great 121 00:06:43,145 --> 00:06:57,305 Speaker 2: base to look beautiful. I mean, what is your self create? 122 00:06:57,625 --> 00:07:03,865 Speaker 1: Give us the dirty details. Speaking about specific French beauty brands, 123 00:07:04,145 --> 00:07:07,105 Speaker 1: tell me what are some standout ones that you think 124 00:07:07,225 --> 00:07:09,425 Speaker 1: are new, noteworthy and trending. 125 00:07:09,785 --> 00:07:12,625 Speaker 2: Okay, so look, I'll start with a new one which 126 00:07:12,665 --> 00:07:14,585 Speaker 2: is not new in France because it's been around for 127 00:07:14,625 --> 00:07:19,025 Speaker 2: the last sixty years. New to Australia SVR, so they 128 00:07:19,265 --> 00:07:21,985 Speaker 2: are recently launched a few months ago. And for the 129 00:07:21,985 --> 00:07:25,225 Speaker 2: ones that don't know it's a French cosmeceutical brand, it's 130 00:07:25,265 --> 00:07:28,745 Speaker 2: backed up by science. I guess their main difference. It's 131 00:07:28,785 --> 00:07:33,305 Speaker 2: all about antiaging and really active ingredient that are tested 132 00:07:33,385 --> 00:07:36,305 Speaker 2: for sensitive skin. And they also have an angle which 133 00:07:36,345 --> 00:07:38,225 Speaker 2: I think speak to a lot of women. They do 134 00:07:38,305 --> 00:07:41,465 Speaker 2: a lot of research in end doctrine disruptor, so all 135 00:07:41,505 --> 00:07:43,585 Speaker 2: the products have been tested to make sure there's no 136 00:07:43,625 --> 00:07:48,985 Speaker 2: impact on the hormond anything against cancer. Sarod they're very 137 00:07:48,985 --> 00:07:51,745 Speaker 2: advanced in this area. But I love the product for 138 00:07:51,945 --> 00:07:55,385 Speaker 2: they have like Sree Serum, a vitamin A, vitamin C, 139 00:07:55,585 --> 00:07:57,985 Speaker 2: and a a acinamaide serum. I just feel like if 140 00:07:57,985 --> 00:08:00,345 Speaker 2: you can have those products in your routine, you're already 141 00:08:00,385 --> 00:08:03,865 Speaker 2: targeting quite a lot of issues. I'm going to stay 142 00:08:03,905 --> 00:08:07,705 Speaker 2: on the active ingredient. But because everyone's talking about retinal, 143 00:08:07,905 --> 00:08:11,425 Speaker 2: I was looking something is the most search ingredients at 144 00:08:11,425 --> 00:08:14,145 Speaker 2: the moment. So it's still very popular, and I think 145 00:08:14,385 --> 00:08:16,705 Speaker 2: retinal people are scared. They want to use it better, 146 00:08:16,705 --> 00:08:19,385 Speaker 2: a bit scared. There's one great product which is called 147 00:08:19,425 --> 00:08:21,145 Speaker 2: A three one three. Yes. 148 00:08:21,545 --> 00:08:25,265 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about this because I need 149 00:08:25,305 --> 00:08:27,665 Speaker 1: to buy it and try it. It's everywhere right now. 150 00:08:27,745 --> 00:08:31,785 Speaker 1: I know Lee Campbell, who also hosts CBD Loves It, 151 00:08:31,865 --> 00:08:33,265 Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about this one. 152 00:08:33,425 --> 00:08:37,145 Speaker 2: Yeah, so look this product. It's funny because when we 153 00:08:37,185 --> 00:08:40,425 Speaker 2: speak about this product in Frience, no one really talk 154 00:08:40,505 --> 00:08:43,145 Speaker 2: about it here. It's super popular. So it's quite funny 155 00:08:43,185 --> 00:08:46,065 Speaker 2: how a product can be not that popular in a 156 00:08:46,105 --> 00:08:50,105 Speaker 2: country of origin and really popular somewhere else. But I 157 00:08:50,145 --> 00:08:54,145 Speaker 2: think it's super popular. It's only zero point seirteen percent 158 00:08:54,225 --> 00:08:56,665 Speaker 2: of retinal if I'm not wrong, but it's the way 159 00:08:56,705 --> 00:09:00,265 Speaker 2: it's been formulated. There's ingredient within that help you to 160 00:09:00,345 --> 00:09:03,425 Speaker 2: penetrate much deeper in the skin and quicker, so you 161 00:09:03,465 --> 00:09:06,145 Speaker 2: see a result quicker, and as we said before, people 162 00:09:06,225 --> 00:09:10,465 Speaker 2: want results straight away. It's active, but it's still gentle, 163 00:09:10,825 --> 00:09:12,385 Speaker 2: so I think that's why people love it. 164 00:09:12,705 --> 00:09:15,385 Speaker 1: I've heard some very good things. That is definitely on 165 00:09:15,465 --> 00:09:18,065 Speaker 1: my lift. I want to try that. I want to 166 00:09:18,065 --> 00:09:23,225 Speaker 1: move on to generally just products that French women carry 167 00:09:23,305 --> 00:09:24,225 Speaker 1: in their handbag. 168 00:09:24,545 --> 00:09:26,665 Speaker 2: I don't know this one if it's the most sexy, 169 00:09:26,785 --> 00:09:30,345 Speaker 2: but we always have a multi purpose bone in a handbag. 170 00:09:30,745 --> 00:09:34,345 Speaker 2: You know. In Australia you have your magical Purpo ointment. 171 00:09:34,745 --> 00:09:38,585 Speaker 2: We have an own one Omele Plasmin. It's like a 172 00:09:38,665 --> 00:09:42,065 Speaker 2: preventative type of thing. But they have this mosturizer which 173 00:09:42,105 --> 00:09:44,465 Speaker 2: is quite a rich ointment, a bit like the Purpo 174 00:09:44,585 --> 00:09:47,425 Speaker 2: or cream, but it's like the Swiss army knife. You 175 00:09:47,465 --> 00:09:49,825 Speaker 2: can use it for everything. It's great on cracked lips, 176 00:09:49,825 --> 00:09:53,585 Speaker 2: it's great on the curticles, it's great on any little 177 00:09:53,825 --> 00:09:57,465 Speaker 2: kirt burn mosquito bat like. It's amazing. So you need 178 00:09:57,505 --> 00:09:58,305 Speaker 2: that in your hands. 179 00:09:58,305 --> 00:09:59,825 Speaker 1: We love a good multipurpose bum. 180 00:10:00,105 --> 00:10:03,945 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one. I mean another one. It's cliche that 181 00:10:04,025 --> 00:10:06,745 Speaker 2: I have to say a red lipstick or red lip bone. 182 00:10:06,865 --> 00:10:09,665 Speaker 2: I think we always have one. I like theirly bone 183 00:10:09,705 --> 00:10:12,305 Speaker 2: because there's three and one you can use on the eyes, 184 00:10:12,385 --> 00:10:14,625 Speaker 2: the chicks, and the lips. I feel it's great to 185 00:10:14,625 --> 00:10:16,625 Speaker 2: have a product that's multipurples in your bag because you 186 00:10:16,665 --> 00:10:19,985 Speaker 2: can do everything. But their red one is particularly really 187 00:10:20,065 --> 00:10:22,905 Speaker 2: nice because it's not too deep, so it's a little 188 00:10:22,905 --> 00:10:25,105 Speaker 2: bit more subtle. It can use that all the time. 189 00:10:25,545 --> 00:10:29,345 Speaker 2: I'd say probably a dry shampoo. I feel you need 190 00:10:29,345 --> 00:10:31,985 Speaker 2: a dry shampoo because I think here everyone us a 191 00:10:32,065 --> 00:10:35,505 Speaker 2: dry shampoo more to refresh your hair. With dry shampoo, 192 00:10:35,545 --> 00:10:38,225 Speaker 2: it's all about giving you volume and body to your hair, 193 00:10:38,665 --> 00:10:39,985 Speaker 2: so you need it all the time. 194 00:10:40,425 --> 00:10:42,745 Speaker 1: This is what I was going to ask, because, yeah, 195 00:10:42,825 --> 00:10:45,265 Speaker 1: as you said, in Australia, dry shampoo is for when 196 00:10:45,425 --> 00:10:48,345 Speaker 1: your hair looks crazy or you just haven't watched it. 197 00:10:49,345 --> 00:10:52,785 Speaker 1: And over in France, you guys use it just for styling, 198 00:10:52,945 --> 00:10:55,825 Speaker 1: just for an added bit of volume. What's one of 199 00:10:55,825 --> 00:10:57,185 Speaker 1: your favorite dry shampoos? 200 00:10:57,345 --> 00:10:59,305 Speaker 2: Look, I have to say the Chloran because they're the 201 00:10:59,305 --> 00:11:01,745 Speaker 2: one that come up with the concept, so I have 202 00:11:01,825 --> 00:11:03,905 Speaker 2: to give it to them. There's a lot of great 203 00:11:03,945 --> 00:11:06,345 Speaker 2: one on the market. I'm very French I do like 204 00:11:06,705 --> 00:11:09,545 Speaker 2: product that are not too scented, and that's why Chloran 205 00:11:09,705 --> 00:11:12,425 Speaker 2: it's more what I like. And the oat milk one 206 00:11:12,545 --> 00:11:15,225 Speaker 2: is amazing. You really need to let it set, so 207 00:11:15,345 --> 00:11:17,745 Speaker 2: I think people just put it and they won't results 208 00:11:17,745 --> 00:11:21,505 Speaker 2: straight away. Give it ten minutes even, maybe use your 209 00:11:21,705 --> 00:11:25,105 Speaker 2: hair dryer, make sure that it penetrate and yeah, dry 210 00:11:25,185 --> 00:11:27,785 Speaker 2: shampoo and a good hair brush as well. You need 211 00:11:27,785 --> 00:11:28,945 Speaker 2: a good hair brush in your bag. 212 00:11:29,385 --> 00:11:31,425 Speaker 1: Do you have a favee hair brush I. 213 00:11:31,305 --> 00:11:34,705 Speaker 2: Really really like. So. There's a brand called Bashka. They 214 00:11:35,025 --> 00:11:39,545 Speaker 2: like very premium, beautiful brand that are sold in all 215 00:11:39,585 --> 00:11:42,305 Speaker 2: those concept store in Paris because there's a lot of them. 216 00:11:42,545 --> 00:11:45,985 Speaker 2: It's a sustainable brand they use like that sustainable wood. 217 00:11:46,225 --> 00:11:49,345 Speaker 2: The brush itself is beautiful to me. It's a dupe 218 00:11:49,385 --> 00:11:52,145 Speaker 2: from the expensive Domason Pierson one, which is a great 219 00:11:52,265 --> 00:11:54,865 Speaker 2: brush as well. I always have the mini version. They 220 00:11:54,865 --> 00:11:57,545 Speaker 2: have a small baby one, really good one. There's one 221 00:11:57,585 --> 00:12:00,425 Speaker 2: with the nylon and the bore bristle. It's a really 222 00:12:00,505 --> 00:12:12,145 Speaker 2: really good one. Fragrant one major difference with French beauty 223 00:12:12,185 --> 00:12:15,985 Speaker 2: Australian beauty. I feel French beauty it's skin care and 224 00:12:16,025 --> 00:12:19,905 Speaker 2: it's fragrance and body is very important. When I speak 225 00:12:19,945 --> 00:12:23,025 Speaker 2: to Austraina about beauty, straight away people start talking about makeup. 226 00:12:23,065 --> 00:12:27,265 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, that's that's the side. Skincare is first, 227 00:12:27,265 --> 00:12:30,465 Speaker 2: but then fragrance is very important. I think like French, 228 00:12:30,545 --> 00:12:33,545 Speaker 2: they love to have a signature scent, you know, like 229 00:12:33,585 --> 00:12:36,785 Speaker 2: they have always like a mini or rollin or a 230 00:12:36,865 --> 00:12:41,705 Speaker 2: travel size. I do love the Boon Perfumer brand. I 231 00:12:41,865 --> 00:12:45,105 Speaker 2: like it because it's all gender fluid, so it's for 232 00:12:45,225 --> 00:12:47,425 Speaker 2: men and women and you can really change. They have 233 00:12:47,625 --> 00:12:50,905 Speaker 2: different scent according to your mood, so I really like that. 234 00:12:50,985 --> 00:12:53,625 Speaker 2: You can layer different scent and it comes in like 235 00:12:53,665 --> 00:12:56,145 Speaker 2: a little travel size, so they're really nice. So I 236 00:12:56,185 --> 00:12:58,225 Speaker 2: love that. And then Juliet has a gun. I know 237 00:12:58,265 --> 00:12:58,705 Speaker 2: it's not you. 238 00:12:58,945 --> 00:13:01,385 Speaker 1: That's another one of Lee Campbell's s faves. Actually, she 239 00:13:01,585 --> 00:13:04,145 Speaker 1: always talks about Juliet has a gun. Such a beautiful 240 00:13:04,185 --> 00:13:09,945 Speaker 1: fragrance and beautiful brandt you've made one of the greatest discoveries. 241 00:13:09,385 --> 00:13:13,425 Speaker 2: Of all time or miss never again? Never? 242 00:13:14,305 --> 00:13:18,345 Speaker 1: Speaking more generally, what's a skincare technique or ingredient that 243 00:13:18,425 --> 00:13:21,025 Speaker 1: you love and what's one that you hate? 244 00:13:21,705 --> 00:13:24,985 Speaker 2: All right, So in terms of the single love, I mean, 245 00:13:25,025 --> 00:13:27,185 Speaker 2: I think you're starting to get the idea of the 246 00:13:27,225 --> 00:13:30,265 Speaker 2: French beauty and me, I really like one of the 247 00:13:30,305 --> 00:13:34,265 Speaker 2: trend that's getting popularity on TikTok is the statue skin. 248 00:13:34,705 --> 00:13:37,105 Speaker 2: You know, the fact that you really need to let 249 00:13:37,145 --> 00:13:40,625 Speaker 2: your skin a bit more natural lady breeze, just highlight, 250 00:13:41,185 --> 00:13:43,985 Speaker 2: not too much foundation and all that. I love that. 251 00:13:44,425 --> 00:13:47,985 Speaker 2: In terms of ingredients that I really really love, I 252 00:13:48,025 --> 00:13:51,665 Speaker 2: think vitamin C. Like I think potentially because I'm dealing 253 00:13:51,665 --> 00:13:54,625 Speaker 2: with a lot of plemantation at the moment, but vitamin 254 00:13:54,665 --> 00:13:56,465 Speaker 2: C is like an all rounder. You can use it 255 00:13:56,505 --> 00:13:59,545 Speaker 2: for so many things. So for me, this is if 256 00:13:59,585 --> 00:14:02,745 Speaker 2: there's two ingredients, Yeah, vitamin senia cinamade. I feel like 257 00:14:02,785 --> 00:14:05,465 Speaker 2: every woman needs to have that in their routine. 258 00:14:05,545 --> 00:14:10,025 Speaker 1: They're great multitasking ingredient, so great for all sorts of skinkns. 259 00:14:10,185 --> 00:14:11,065 Speaker 2: Yeah. 260 00:14:11,185 --> 00:14:13,545 Speaker 1: Lastly, I want to wrap things up by asking you 261 00:14:13,625 --> 00:14:16,905 Speaker 1: to summarize what French beauty actually means to you. 262 00:14:17,105 --> 00:14:21,065 Speaker 2: Having that approach of the less is more, let your 263 00:14:21,145 --> 00:14:25,465 Speaker 2: skin do the talking. French beauty is more there to support, 264 00:14:25,785 --> 00:14:28,105 Speaker 2: It's not going to fix everything. It's very good for 265 00:14:28,145 --> 00:14:30,905 Speaker 2: everybody in the fact that they are developed for sensitive skin. 266 00:14:30,985 --> 00:14:33,705 Speaker 2: I know I keep saying this, but I feel nowadays 267 00:14:33,745 --> 00:14:35,945 Speaker 2: there's so many products on the market to hear people 268 00:14:35,945 --> 00:14:39,225 Speaker 2: having reaction or allergy, knowing that you can go there 269 00:14:39,665 --> 00:14:43,065 Speaker 2: and they're still efficient but gentle enough to be used 270 00:14:43,105 --> 00:14:45,585 Speaker 2: by everyone. So I would say that that's one thing. 271 00:14:46,145 --> 00:14:49,065 Speaker 2: It's also about giving you the confidence just to be 272 00:14:49,105 --> 00:14:51,585 Speaker 2: happy with you are. And also you do it for yourself. 273 00:14:51,785 --> 00:14:54,505 Speaker 2: You know, it just makes you feel a bit just good. 274 00:14:54,585 --> 00:14:57,825 Speaker 2: You know, your face, your body, everything looks good. It's 275 00:14:57,825 --> 00:15:01,225 Speaker 2: not about the quick fixes, you know. Please make sure 276 00:15:01,265 --> 00:15:04,985 Speaker 2: that you follow your regimen. Just have a really good mosturizer. 277 00:15:05,865 --> 00:15:07,905 Speaker 2: If you don't want to double cleans, use a Mistellar 278 00:15:08,025 --> 00:15:11,345 Speaker 2: water already. You know it's efficient and it will clean 279 00:15:11,425 --> 00:15:16,585 Speaker 2: sences your skin. A good multi purpose mosturizer, Serumson's cream 280 00:15:16,665 --> 00:15:18,665 Speaker 2: like you know, just a few product, but do it 281 00:15:18,745 --> 00:15:21,625 Speaker 2: every day. Don't do it few months and then stop. 282 00:15:21,785 --> 00:15:24,705 Speaker 2: Just try to be quite persistent in your approach. 283 00:15:25,105 --> 00:15:27,505 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm going to put all of 284 00:15:27,545 --> 00:15:28,985 Speaker 1: this to the desk and. 285 00:15:29,265 --> 00:15:31,825 Speaker 2: For your flowing, so I don't feel you need that 286 00:15:31,985 --> 00:15:33,105 Speaker 2: much together. 287 00:15:33,345 --> 00:15:36,185 Speaker 1: That is the ultimate compliment from a French woman. So 288 00:15:36,385 --> 00:15:37,945 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. 289 00:15:38,065 --> 00:15:39,265 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. 290 00:15:40,345 --> 00:15:42,665 Speaker 1: That's all for today's show, But if you want more 291 00:15:42,705 --> 00:15:45,585 Speaker 1: beauty news, check out our beauty newsletter. We've chucked a 292 00:15:45,625 --> 00:15:48,025 Speaker 1: link to it in the show notes. The producer of 293 00:15:48,065 --> 00:15:51,265 Speaker 1: You Beauty is Cassie Merritt, with audio production by Lou Hill. 294 00:15:51,705 --> 00:15:54,425 Speaker 1: See you next Tuesday for another interview talking all things 295 00:15:54,425 --> 00:15:57,785 Speaker 1: skin care. Bye.